The Mass Formation Psychosis That Never Was

We dive into the increasingly popular intersection of disinformation combining Covid conspiracy theories and Holocaust revisionism.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Alright, Robert, do you want to open it us up
with something I don't know. Nope, you're opening the opening
is is that is what you just did? Okay, well
it's already opened. Welcome to take it happen here the
podcast about how things things do be crumbling sometimes, including
our ability to introduce the podcast that it's actually a

(00:25):
very meta art piece about the Yeah, we started off
very polished and slowly commentary on I don't know something.
It's called figure out what. It's a commentary on it.
It's called metamodernism. It's the post it's post postmodern. Anyway, Um,
what are we talking about? Disinformation and various bullshit today?

(00:47):
So among the many disinformation vectors online, Joe Rogan's podcast
is obviously one off, like the largest single single vectors. Yeah.
I mean I've said this before, but I'll say it again.
I don't think there's a cable news station as influential
as Joe Rogan, you know, and you could you could

(01:08):
make commentary on like, oh maybe they have a larger
viewership in terms of like their actual ability to influence
large numbers of people. Um, there's certainly no single cable
news host that comes close to Joe Um, and I
would argue, probably no network that does. He's extremely influential
by virtue of the fact that he's Um a meathead

(01:29):
of people seem to find friendly and engaging, and he
is very charismatic. He's good at what he does, he's
good at talking. Yeah. So, multiple times during the past
three weeks, Rogan has brought on two separate quote unquote
doctors who have started to pedal something called mass formation psychosis,
which is kind of a new vector in the anti

(01:50):
vax kind of argument and like headspace, so like as
for like the it could happen near portion of the episode,
This one's pretty simple. Could mass formations like this happen here?
No way, not this time. We created it, not this time, No,
not this time. It's totally made up, pure fiction. It's fiction.

(02:11):
It's fiction. We made it up. We made this one up.
It's a made up tail. It's a total fabrication. Nope,
not really ever happened anywhere. I might also argue, no, nope, fiction,
We've solved the podcast, total fabric This is not a thing,
total fabrication, made up tail. So yeah, well, but when

(02:33):
whenever these like cook doctors bring up mass formation psychoses.
You can actually kind of watch them get close to
understanding something real, but then they veer off into reactionary nonsense.
Like most powerful nonsense, there is an element of truth
that it is uh spinning off of, you know. So
let let's start off with some of the more kind

(02:54):
of deranged examples and well then eventually providing at least
some background onto the whole mastormation psychoa, this this idea,
and then we'll kind of discuss some of the more
slightly interesting aspects of this argument that Eurogan seems fond
of pushing right now. So, the first guy I want
to talk about is Dr Peter McCole, which is not

(03:14):
the not the guy that was trending on Twitter last
week or whatever this was. This is someone else that
Rogan brought on a few weeks previously, who actually started
talking about this first. Um So background on McCole. By
most accounts, he was like a top cardiologist for many years,
you know. He he shares a similar story to other
doctors who have become kind of COVID conspiracy celebrities. Former

(03:36):
friends and co workers say he was a pretty reasonable
guy and a good doctor, and then COVID he realized
he could be worth millions of dollars, Yeah, covid head
that he started to kind of go off the rails,
and he he initially began to helpin conspiracy theories in
particular around hydroxy chloro quinn um. And McColl was also
in the news earlier this year due to I guess uh,

(03:58):
due to a legal dispute with his former employer, Baylor
University Health. So, according to a lawsuit, for nearly six
months after McCall's employment had ended, he continued to use
his professional titles such as the Vice Chief of Internal
Medicine at Baylor University, and this represented himself as a
Baylor employee dozens if not hundreds of times in media
interviews in which he spread disinformation about the pandemic. So

(04:22):
the type of misinformation that he talks about, you know,
pretty basic stuff of vaccines are neither safe nor effective. Um.
He was a very early hydroxical organ proponent. Um. He
claims that there's no asymptomatic COVID transmission at all, even
if you're not vaccinated. Um. And he claims that you
cannot get COVID twice once you have at once the

(04:42):
post infection natural immunity is a protective against all future
COVID disease, which of course work. Yeah. No, everything I
just said is not true. All of it can individually
be disproved by the existence of Jayere Bosonaro. Single say that, Chris,

(05:04):
I'm looking over at my digital picture frame that is
just loaded with like a dozen photos of JayR bolson
Yaro in the hospital dying. Um. Yeah, I recommend everyone
do that. It improves every morning as soon as I
walk up to my recording studio, I see JayR bolson
Yaro getting ship sucked out of his nose from a tube,
and I just feel ready to take on the day.

(05:24):
It beats coffee. Wow, that's strong words. Um. The other
big thing and since how since I want to get
into the mess, uh psychosis bullshit is that he McCall
also asserts that fifty Americans have died from the vaccine shots.
This is not true. Um. Looking at like deaths possibly
associated with it, it is like maybe a thousand or

(05:47):
two thousand, which sucks. Um. And but like that's that's
the highest amount because again it's not even a lot
of these things are not necessarily direct directly causal. Um.
So It's hard to figure out what is what. But
if there is a number, it's around the two wish
thousand range. Uh not um and McCall thinks that, or

(06:08):
at least promotes that the idea that like the vaccine,
is a conspiracy theory to suppress hydroxical wor quin and
therapeutic treatment for COVID. And this conspiracy is organized at
every level, uh three different regions, corporations, big Pharma, Hollywood,
and and this is this is the mass formation psychosis
is that we've believed that both COVID is like a

(06:30):
big problem and that the vaccine is the solution. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna play a clip hopefully you guys
can hear this of of McColl talking about mass formation psychosis. Dope,
we've seen mass psychosis in history before the horrific group
suicides that have happened with religious culture. We knew a

(06:52):
Nazi Germany where people in a sense offer their children
up to eugenics programs and a progressive mass psychosis, and
they themselves walk into gas chambers and my gas, they
didn't kick fight, go kicking, screaming. This type of that's
a mass psychosis. So what Desmond says is it must
be four conditions met for a mass psychosis. The Firth

(07:13):
is the population must be isolated. People must be isolated
for a plot period. Number two, we must have things
taken away from us that we previously enjoy. Number three,
there must be constant, free floating anxiety. Anxiety of more
virus is more disability, more depth, more anxiety. And then

(07:36):
the last one is that kap Or Number four is
there must be a single solution offered by an entity
and authority, the vaccine. The only solution to the pandemic
is the vaccine. We're in a mass hychosis. And what
Desmond says is with the vaccine, there is no limit

(07:57):
to the absurdity that we will see, no limit to
the absurdy. So this idea of here, take a vaccine,
Take any vaccine. That's absurd. Vaccines are different. There must
be a winner, there must be a loser, there must
be somebody why why would it be any vaccine. It's
the same with the mask where masks. It doesn't matter
what kind of mask, just put it over your face. Absurdity,
the absurdity of well, I've already had COVID, the CDC says,

(08:21):
you can't get COVID again. Okay, so listeners at home
should know so that you understand what this video is
that the entire time he's talking, there's what appears to
be the eviscerated corpse of a black woman lying underneath it.
Like it's terrifying. It's like very like something. I think

(08:43):
it's like one of the dolls that medical students learned
how to do autopsies on. It's not a real person,
but it does look like the corpse of an eviscerated
woman as he's just like chatting face really does look
like it took me. I thought it was like I
couldn't forget what was going on for like yeah, I mean, yeah,
they're the cadaver dolls that they have for trading. Are

(09:04):
quite good. Um, I kind of want to get one
for the next time I'm in Texas and want to
use an HIV lane. But that's the story for another day.
So yeah, that's that's pretty dumb, especially the notion that
people were hypnotized into peacefully walking into gas. I just
need to stay like that's the not not only is

(09:25):
that like that is objectively untrue to the extent that
I could provide anyone interested with thousands of pages of
reading from people who survived concentration camps about how they
worked and why people walked into them, and a lot
of it just boils down to the fact that it
was they were making a very rational choice, which was
I have no options here. I cannot get out of this,

(09:47):
but I can at least make sure that my children
are not panicking in the last seconds before we're killed.
And a lot of the people the the because a
lot of the actual like grunt work of key of
loading humans into the gas chambers was done by other
inmates who were also not going through psychosis. They were
given a chance to survive longer by helping to operate

(10:08):
the camps UM and those people you can read some
of them did survive UM, and some of them wrote
about their experiences UM, which is some of the most
harrowing shit like imaginable for a human being to possibly
go through. It is all tremendously well documented, and the
most offensive thing I can imagine is saying that these
people were somehow is saying Number one, it's incredibly offensive

(10:30):
to say that they were going through some sort of psychosis,
and that's why they walked into the chambers and not
this was the best option available to them, given what
was going on and what like the situation they had
been forced into. They did not have other options. Um.
It was that or get machine gunned to death. Um.
And maybe you think you would choose a different option. Um.

(10:51):
But if you're critiquing them or trying to claim that
like the only reason they would do that what they
did was that they had lost their minds. Um, I
will I will hit you in the face with a brick,
fuck you like that. That that's my answer to that. Actually,
if you are someone who is interested academically and why
people did some of the things that they did at
at the death camps, um, and like why how that

(11:14):
actually functioned psychologically. It's like a short book. It's this
way for the gas ladies and gentlemen. And it is
a quasi fictionalized book by a guy named Taddius Borowski
who was a survivor of the death camp. So it's
based on his experiences at Auschwitz and Dachau. UM. And
he he describes the way in which the world of

(11:34):
the camps worked and the psychology of the camps worked. Um.
And he's not and He's not a piece of ship
grifter asshole. He's a guy who lived through all of this.
So if you actually care about any of this, just
read that everything this guy says is wrong, and if
I had a chance to, I would hit him in
the face with a brick. Please continue, Garrison. Yeah, it
really sucks because it's not just a combination of medical

(11:57):
misinformation but also just the most ship sociology um. And
it creates this a really a really disgusting package of
of of really bad sociology medical misinformation um. And like, yeah,
he's doing this too, like because he can make a
profit off of it. So he's saying these things. So

(12:18):
I know, Um, he mentioned a name, Desmond. Desmond's the
guy who kind of coined this term. We'll we'll talk
about more about him at the end, but for now,
let's go on an ad break and we'll be back
to talk about Dr Robert Malone, the other other guy
who's been pushing this nonsense. So I probably will want

(12:39):
to hit with a brick even more so, honestly, And
we're back talking now about mass information psychosis and the
dumb people who are or smart people who are using

(13:03):
they're they're evil that tough. So yeah, so after after
McCall went on Rogan's show, it got that that show
got pretty popular. Um One, one big right wing kind
of trumpett media personality named Melissa Tate was permanently banned
from Twitter after posting about the podcast and making the
following post to her half a million followers, Global bombshell.

(13:24):
Dr Peter McCall on The Joe Rogan Show says Maderna
made the code vaccine long before COVID actually hit, and
that the pandemic was a premeditated and concerted scheme by
government and medical entities to then force vaccinations as the solution.
So that's the type of narrative that they're trying to
foster because the pandemics has been so good for Biden's

(13:45):
approval ratings, it's really working out great for everybody. Uh
us U S Senator Ron Johnson also promoted the interview,
saying Rogan asks excellent questions and McColl provides the answers.
So yeah. Um So, apparently the mass formation psychosis Doctor
Guy was enough of a hit that Rogan's team decided

(14:06):
to very soon after bring on another line, conspiracy doctor
Dr Robert Malone. So During the last week, Rogan invited
Malone onto his show. Malone's of of a virologist and
a immunization doctor who claims credit for inventing the m

(14:27):
r n A vaccine in a pair of papers from
the late eighties spoilers, He did not there was on
the vaccine before him, and work continued after him. Yeah yeah,
um yeah, And in eighty nine he published a paper
um kind of positing maybe mr NA can be binded

(14:48):
with with other kind of uh proteins. He did not
really do any work on it besides just saying I
wonder if this could maybe happen um, And then he
decided into this dude a bit. Okay, we're people asking
similar questions and publishing papers at the same time of
the question and yeah yeah. So Malone actually thought this

(15:10):
was too hard and abandoned this project very soon and
then went to work for like the military to develop
other random like uh. He thought the RNA vaccines were
too hard, so he went on to develop more stuff
around DNA vaccines and has been working with like the
military and various like a big farmer companies fund vaccines
for a while. More accurately, Dr Carrico and Drew Wiseman

(15:33):
are two doctors that are widely agreed and acknowledged to
have put the most development work and actual like like
actually doing the science to make m m RNA vaccines
a thing. Um. And the of course development of them
was due to you know, work of hundreds of researchers. Um.
So it's it's not you know, one person does not
invent something like this. It's it's a group of a

(15:54):
lot of people. But but it makes it for an
easy title for your viral video. Yeah, and in fact,
actually um uh, logically, the that's a journalist website reached
out to Malone and for an article, and Malone replied
Black stating that he did not actually literally invent the
uh the vaccine, but instead developed a vaccine technology platform. Um.

(16:19):
Then he presented logically copies with nine patents, um, none
of which are the patents for functioning mrn A vaccines
of course. Um. But but he he claims to have
patented mr in A technology. I mean he did, it's
technology that doesn't work and never has and never has worked,

(16:40):
and the patents are expired. Um. Anyway, I need to
pat some ship. That just sounds like a real easy
way to make a good grift. Yeah. So you know,
as we've seen with my with but because because Malone
has crafted this you know, narrative that I'm the inventor
of this thing. You know. Look, just like we've seen

(17:01):
with my like COVID griff named Doctor's episode behind the Bastards,
just a little shred of like medical authority can be
more often transformed with propaganda into something much greater than
what it is, you know, whether that be claiming to
be the inventor of the m RNA or you know,
claiming to be the former Heads scientist adviser. Neither of
those have to actually be true to work, because propaganda

(17:23):
makes it true via like repetition. So yeah, it's the
kind of thing where like dunking on these guys like
it's important here to correct the record, it doesn't do anything. No,
the fact that they and nothing that they say is
true does not matter when it comes to them having
an influence in the community they have. If you get
on Rogan, it doesn't like like you've already done the

(17:43):
thing that you need to do to be able to
to profit from this. It doesn't matter that you're lying.
A few months ago, Malone went on to Steve Bannon
Show to talk about how the vaccines make COVID worse worse. Actually,
and you know this is this is the quote from
Steve Bannon. You're hearing it from the individual who invented
the m R and a vaccine and has dedicated his
life to vaccines. He's the opposite of an anti vaxer, right.

(18:04):
So it's it's it's that tipularity. So yeah, start starting
around June one, Malone began to make the rounds, you know, Bannon, Tucker,
Glenn beck Um and now Joe Rogan. So you know,
starting in June, he had like less than five thousand
Twitter followers. Uh and just before his suspension at the

(18:25):
end of December for spreading misinformation, he had like over
half million. Um. So yeah, So right after his Twitter
suspension for lying about COVID and causing you know, misinformation
to run to to run rampant around a health issue. Um,
that's when Rogan invited him on. It was right after
he got suspended from Twitter. And there's been one particular

(18:47):
clip from the interview that has really caught like the
far right's attention. Um, you know the tweet that's it's
it's connected to is captioned on Joe Rogan. Dr Robert
Malone suggests we are living through a mass formations like coast.
He explains how and why this could happen and its effects.
He draws analogy to the nineteen twenties and thirties Germany.
They had a highly educated population and they went barking mad.

(19:10):
Um did not. They made a series of logical The
Nazis did not go mad. They were not crazy, They
were not out of their mind. They were doing they
were a large part of what they were doing was
saying things that they knew were nonsense and lies in
order to get elected because it riled people up. And
then a large chunk of their policy was figuring out, well,

(19:31):
if this is the ship that we've been saying, how
do we how do we translate that into policy? Again,
realms have been written on this by credible researchers. The
people who ran the camps were not insane, although they
were often deeply depressed in suicidal because it's not good
to run a death camp. They were all making rational decisions.
And the people who let it happen, we're letting it

(19:53):
happen because it was dangerous and scary to interfere in
any way. They were all making rational decisions. There was
no insanity responsible for the Holocaust, which is worse like
in the Party everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What they're like,
they're they're what they're doing is like they're they're they're
they're trying to give people a way out right like that.
You know, this is this is sort of like, oh,

(20:13):
it's well, the Nazis went insane. All people who follow
them when and saying it's like no, no, they don't.
You don't get that way out like you they chose
to do this. Yeah. The the scariest and most meaningful
lesson to take from the Holocaust is that you yourself
could be a part of a Holocaust, even if you
didn't support the killing, because it's extremely easy to not
get involved and stop something like that once it reaches

(20:34):
a certain level, and it's easy for the kind of
political organizations that can make things like that possible to
reach a point where they can carry that sort of
ship out because again, it's scary to fucking fight them. Uh.
Let's want the clips like a minute long, and I
think it's worth watching to see both in the context
of when Rogan decides to interject and when he decides

(20:55):
not to basically European intellectual inquiry into what the heck
happened this guy already in the twenties and thirties, you know,
very intelligent, highly educated population and they went barking mad
um And how did that happen? Um? The answer is
mass formation psychosis when you have a society that has

(21:15):
become decoupled from each other and has free floating anxiety
in a sense that things don't make sense, we can't
understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a
leader or a series of events on one small point.
Just like hypnosis, they literally become hypnotized and can be
led anywhere. And one of the aspects of that phenomena

(21:38):
is the people that they identify as their leaders, the
ones typically that come in and say, you have this pain,
and I can solve it for you. I and I alone, okay,
can fix this problem for you. Okay. Then they will lead.
They will follow that person through how it doesn't matter
whether they lie to them or whatever. The data are irrelevant.
And furthermore, anybody who questioned that narrative is to be

(22:02):
immediately attacked. They are the other. This is central to
mass formation psychosis. And this is what has happened. We
had all those conditions. If you remember back before, everybody
was complaining the world doesn't make sense, blah blah blah. Um.
And we're all isolated from each other, We're all on
our little tools. We're not connected socially anymore except through

(22:26):
social media. UM. And then this thing happened and everybody
focused on it. That is how mass formation psychosis happens.
And that is what's happened here. Horrible, completely wrong um
in every single way. UM. They the Germans were not
confused because nothing made sense. They were angry because of

(22:46):
the terms of the Treaty of Versailles. That were also
angry because of what they saw as and what like,
because of a myth that had grown up about why
they had lost the First World War, which was spread
by people who were the equivalent in that time of
Joe Rogan. They were scared of the left, of communism,
of disorder, of riots in the streets. Um. And one.
When Hitler took power, most Germans did not like him.

(23:09):
They did not blindly follow him. He gradually gained the
vast the support of the vast majority of Germany through
a number of different, very logical things. One thing that
he did that got him a lot of support was
he took businesses and homes and money from Jewish people
and from members of other groups that the Nazis were targeting,
and he gave it to Arians. There was a direct

(23:30):
financial interest for a lot of people who got in
line behind the Nazis, and he established a series of
programs like the Strength through Joy program that really did
benefit in a way that they had not known before
the German working class. Um. And a lot of this
was again subsidized through the appropriations of things that had
been owned by people that the Nazis were targeting. People
fell in line behind Hitler for logical reasons. He did

(23:51):
not reach the highest point of his support from the
German populace until the taking of Paris, which obviously that
was something that a lot of Germans supported. They had
spent four years failing to take the city in World
War One. UM. Anyway, sorry, it's all nonsense, it's all lies.

(24:16):
I think. The reason why this is latching on so
much to people on the right, like people on the
right who who don't consider themselves fascists, who who think
who would say Nazis are bad right there. They still
are latching onto this because it provides a way for
them to not understand how fascism actually works. Right. It
provides an alternative explanation that makes them not have to

(24:40):
actually think about what fascism is. Um. And that's why
they're latching onto it. And it also is already it's
already a part of the conspiracies they have around vaccines
and power structures. So because because it's the conspiratorial basis,
instead of like thinking about power structures from like an
anarchist or like like higher archy lens, it reinforces the

(25:02):
world views they have and makes them not have to
interrogate the ones that they don't want to. UM it sucks.
Malone's substack goes into more of this and it's it's
it's pretty bad. There's a this is a few quotes
that I think really kind of tied this together, and
then he has some horrible statistics. Um. He says, as
many of you know, I've spent time researching and speaking
about mass psychosis theory. Most of what I've learned is

(25:24):
come from Dr Desmond. Dr Desmond is like the guy
who pointed this term UM and uh Malone, writes Desmond
realized that this form of mass hypnosis, the madness of crowds,
can account for the strange phenomenon of about of the
population in the Western world becoming entrenched with the noble
lies and dominant narrative concerning the safety and effectiveness of

(25:47):
the genetic vaccines, and both propagated and enforced by politicians,
science bureaucrats, pharmaceutical companies, and legacy media. Of course, the
obvious examples of masformation is Germany in the thirties and forties.
How could the German people, who are highly educated, very
liberal in the classic sense, Western thinking people, how could
they go crazy and do what they did to the Jews?

(26:07):
How could this happen to a civilized people. A leader
of a mass formation movement will use the platform to
continue to pump the group of information to focus on.
In the case of COVID nineteen, I like to use
the term fear porn. Leaders through mainstream media and government
channel and government channels continuously feed the beast with more
messaging that further hypnotize their adherents. Studies suggest that mass

(26:28):
formation follows a general distribution people are brainwashed and hypnotized
fully doctor in the group narrative in the middle are
persuaded and may follow if know where the alternatives perceived,
And thirty percent will fight the narrative. Those who rebel
and fight against the narrative become the enemy of the
brainwashed and the primary target of aggression. So that's the

(26:53):
way he thinks. That is how which is really it's
really subject like in terms of how he's building a
narrative in his head and specifically building a narrative for
other people's heads to to view. Why do I feel
distrustful of certain pieces of power but love other pieces
of power? Yeah, And it's again like this idea that

(27:13):
like well, Germany was liberals there, Germany had an enormous
right wing movement, Like it was a hugely conservative country
in a lot of ways. It would also had a
lot of leftist organizing and a lot of leftists in it,
especially after World War One, But like the Fry Corps ship,
there were these massive millions strong right wing armed street
movements that existed for the entirety of the Weimar Republic.

(27:35):
Like it's again everything he says is wrong. Yeah, And
again it's like the notion that like are fully burnwashed,
are in the middle and persuadable fight the narrative. It's
like these these people who are upset, these like these
specifically conservatives, were obsessed about thinking like I would have
fought the Nazis. And because they don't understand how fashions
and works and powerdynamics, they don't understand how how they're

(27:57):
actually getting pulled into the same thing. But they still
view themselves as the rebel right. They there's right, yeah,
like they're still focused on being yeah's absolutely like they're
still focused on being the rebel and like we're rebelling
against the vaccine that that is just like rebelling against
the Nazis. And you're like, what, um, so I just

(28:18):
want to say about those numbers, if they're too completely
made up? Yeah, yeah, when when people start throwing even
numbers statistic exactly like that, it's because they're lying. Yeah,
it's because yeah, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah, that's that's complete nonsense.
For one. Yeah, it's so so I get because now,

(28:41):
the other thing that happened around this interview, because it
didn't give a lot of traction among the right, is
that whenever these things gain traction, they also developed conspiracy
theories that people are trying to suppress it. Like look
at the Google algorithm when you type in certain keywords
like I know that. The day this was trending, it
was like if you google dr malone, the usually like
the sixth result, the first one is this YouTube video

(29:02):
at de Bunky and like I did this, and like no,
the first result was the obviously viral video of him
saying the thing, Like they just they can take one
screenshot that maybe someone made or maybe because of one
person's computer algorithm that's what gave them and use this
as like evidence that this is the entire system of
the Internet suppressing the thing, Like no, the Internet wants
things to go viral. Now, there's certain things where they

(29:24):
like trying to shut down the spread of dangerous stuff,
but this got very viral. This was not contained in
any way. But because of this notion like they're trying
to hide it, you know, it plays into their them
thinking they're like they're them thinking that they are the
rebels or something. And there's also a very practical reason
why the people who particularly know that they're lying do this,

(29:45):
and it's because all of their success is based on
a foundation of the way in which YouTube and Facebook
and Twitter algorithmically amplified them and their predecessors. And they
know that creating controversy over the fact that are being suppressed,
um leads to more content that Jin's that basically algorithmically

(30:06):
spreads their stuff more because more people are talking about it,
because other people's channels start debating it, because idiots on
the left are like, well, we should at least have
them on platform them because we're anti censorship too, so
let's debate them. And like all of this stupid ship
feeds into spreading their stuff. It's a very intelligent strategy. Um,
I hate it, but just in just in terms of
how ridiculous it is. I know. A few days ago,

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a Congressman Troy Nells said that I submitted the transcript
from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode with Dr Malone
to the Congressional Record. Big tech wants to restrict your access,
your access to information, but they cannot censor. The Congressional
Record not big tech is the entire reason why you
know about these people. Yeah, entirely. So if it were

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not for big tech, Joe Rogan would be narrating videos
of robots fighting. So Jack Sybiak got real into the
because he loves anything that goes viral. For big tech,
Jack Piso Bik would have died in a ditch of
an oxy content overdose, so he got real into it.
He changed his like he changed his Twitter name to

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Jack mass Formation psychosis, psychosa Beck or some bullshit like that.
Stupid and it was. It was tweeting about a NonStop
for a week and like like a kid learning about
a new topic because of synchronicity' he's gonna like projected
onto everything he sees. Now he's like this this new
all encompassing topic that makes you avoid what fashions them

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actually is and then point out at the things you
don't like. So of course he's gonna apply to everything
he He made a tweet right before January six, um
as the anniversary of the Capitol intermpted ku thing. Regime
Media has launched a propaganda push against Ashley Babbitt today
to psychologically prep their flock for the upcoming mass formation

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event planned for January six this week. This this is
called priming and it's a text book mass formation theory tactic.
Wait till you see what comes next, And it is
the sixth today has anything what happened? Not goddamn thing
they got fucking lin Manuel Morenda does sing song that's

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gone from Miranda? Did you see that that wasn't He
might have said something in the beginning that was due,
but the performance has been played before on other things. Well,
and I am you know what, if we're taught trying
to reach across the aisle, I am willing to admit
that the popularity of lin Manuel Miranda might be a
mass formation psychosis. Absolutely, the popularity of Hamilton's is a

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mast formation psychus. Absolutely, we're just being assholes. But like, like
like seriously like it again, but it doesn't it does.
The fuck is when it when it comes to again
like the fact that he said there's gonna be this
whatever psyche mass formation psychosis event on the anniversary of
January six then it's going to be huge watch for it.

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And nothing happens, doesn't matter, never matters, will never matter,
um because again, like it's it's I think one of
the issues that we have here is the degree to
which brain brainwashing and hypnosis and stuff are talked about
within kind of discussions of a cultic milieu when they're
not really a factor not a factor in cults, not
nearly as much as you think. Yeah, and not in

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the way that you think. There's things that like you
could call brainwashing, but the the and you could even
maybe call hypnosis, although that's a lot murkier, is a
very technical thing. Yeah, But but the what actually like
the stuff that's actually happens. Again, it's always much more
logical and rational if you can just inhabit the mental
space of the people who are in those communities because

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of what they're primed to believe first, and because of
what is happening socially, because of the degree to which
they isolate themselves from people who are outside of that bubble. Like,
that's why you it's so hard to get them out.
It's not that like magically their brains have been taken over.
It's that they have pretty methodically been put into a
position where rejecting what is being told to them within

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this context is immensely more painful, um than just continuing
to believe things that are not true. Um. And there
are more consequences for it, you know. Um, you lose
a support network, you lose a great deal of of
of your own opinion of yourself and your self worth
if you start to reject this stuff. Um. And once

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you can trap people in that, it's the same way
that scientology works. Once you can trap people in that. Um,
it's the evidence of their eyes and the fact that
like they're obviously being lied to and the things that
they're being told about don't come to pass. It's this.
It's the reason why you have a bunch of apocalyptic
cults who say the days the world's going to end
on this day and time that day and time comes,

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the world doesn't end, and the cult goes on. You know, Yeah,
it's pretty it's pretty ridiculou us. This this whole thing
was started by this professor of clinical psychology at at
a university in Belgium, Matthias Desmot. He seems to have
a pretty bad understanding of history and actual like power
structures and does not know the least bit about fascism. Um.

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And it's trying to craft this thing to fill in
the gaps in his own knowledge and applies it to everything.
And I've read some of his stuff. It's it's nonsense. Um.
Again that just like the doctors who talked about it,
they're like, yeah, he's using this also is a way
to explain how COVID is not real and how the
vaccine is a is a ploy to do bad thing.

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It's it's all ridiculous, it's irresponsible, um, and they're using
it as a tactic and hopefully it's just gonna blow over.
But I'm sure it'll pop up everyone every once in
a while again, just like it popped up, you know,
a few weeks ago. But that's that's really all. I all.
I want to get into it. I I could say more,
but I think we have said enough. I think that's

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said enough. Um all right, well fuck itt, Yeah, that's it.
That's all I've got. UM Read This Way for the
Gas Ladies and Gentlemen by Thaddius Borowski. Um. It will.
It will have a major impact on the way you

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see the entire world if you if you actually read it. Um,
there's some incredible pieces in there. One of one of
the things that the Taddius points out is that like
people only ever have like one kind of language for
for talking about like the things that they feel, where
whether it's something they they kind of vaguely care about

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or something they care about enough to murder over. And
so when people engage in acts of like horrific violence
on a mass scale. They often do it looking and
acting like they would if they were irritated at somebody
in traffic. Um. And it's the most un rattling thing
about being the victim of a genocide that you don't
see the kind of hate and the kind of rage

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and the kind of like what you would expect someone
would need to be amped up to. It's more of
like you see, more like kind of boredom and and
irritation and all that stuff. Like it's not anyway read
read read Daddy Sparowski. Um, he's I desperately wish Joe
Rogan would just sit and narrate this book on his show,

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because I do actually a service to the world. Anyway. Um,
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