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April 10, 2025 • 21 mins

Anney and Samantha recount some of their recent adventures, including their love of food and libraries.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
I've never told you. Prorection, I heard you.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And welcome to another happy hour. However, Annie, today is
one of those happy hours where I decided I want
to celebrate all the good things that are happening, including
the fact that this week is a National Library Week.
I did not realize this, and I was like, oh, well,
we need to talk about some of the things that
we've been doing because we coincidentally went to a library

(00:42):
before all of that. It is a happy hour. So
if you're doing anything that constitutes, you know, what we
know of as happy hour, do so responsibly. Currently not
being sponsored by any of the products or places that
we're going to talk about. Probably if they did, it'd
be cool. Are you slipping on anything?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I got my wine?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yay? He said, it's not a wine. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, now I'm trying to guess. You need to give
me some heads up. Fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
No, this is even more fun. I just want to
see if you ever actually get it. I'm never telling
you ever. I am drinking on my bubble water because
that is what I enjoy. I've seen all of these
advertisements for like like hemp, cannabis, and like microdosing of
mushroom drinks. All of a sudden, they've been popping out

(01:32):
at me. And I want to know about this because
I'm like, the last time we had a non alcoholic
but CBD drink, it took me out. It took me out.
Two hours later, it took me out. So I'm wondering
if all of these others are supposed to be like
micro dosing might be better. So if any of the listeners,

(01:54):
if you have any experience with these, and if you
know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the
brand specifically because I know nothing about them other than
it just keeps popping up at me all a lot.
I'm interested because I want to know it looks refreshing.
I don't necessarily need it, but you know, just you know,
if anybody knows of it, tell me about it. Anyway.
Besides all of that, Yes, it is National Library a

(02:15):
Week and we have been pretty hardcore and talking about
celebrating librarians and libraries and independent bookstores as in fact,
if you listen to our recent episode with Katie Mitchell,
who just released her book as of two days ago,
the eighth, April eighth, so Today's April tenth, just in
case you needed to know that of twenty twenty five,
we talked about her book, which was her traveling all

(02:39):
over the country talking to owners and past owners and
family members and those who remember in those who are
part of the black bookstores, And we were talking about
black bookstores, not black owned bookstores necessarily. So if you
want more information, you should go check that episode out.
As in fact, we actually got to go and see
Katie Mitchell on for the beginning of her book tour

(03:02):
as it was released. Pros to the people. It was
such a good event too, Like I came out with
just like such like excitement. I wanted to all of
a sudden go to all the coffee shops and bookstores,
Like we have some cool ones in Atlanta, and I
didn't even realize because the few that we know like
have been established for a long long time, Like we

(03:23):
have one Keras which is kind of linked with Agne
Scott but not really like it's near the campus. I
don't think it is actually a part of the school.
But like, we love these types of bookstores anyway, So
now I've got more on the list that I need
to go check out, and they happened to be like
coffee shops as well, and I'm like, yes, this is
right up my alley. I actually went to Baldwin and Co.

(03:44):
Which was one of the bookstores that is featured in
her book, and it was such a great, great little shop.
I will say the coffee was really good too. It
was really good. I was like, yeah, so yeah, you
just wanted to take a minute first of all, to
congratulate Katie Mitchell on her release. If you have not

(04:05):
listened to that episode, really really really really need to
go listen to it. It's so fantastic. If you have
not gotten a copy, you need to get a copy.
I'm telling everyone to get a copy. Because I raved
and ranted after the fact after the interview. I was
a little like a little out of it because I
was in my sick era. But I was absolutely honest

(04:26):
in like, I think this book is going to be
monumental in like a historical way. I think it really
leaves a mark and I think it's going to be
something that's going to be substantial in history making. And
then I realized I sounded really like I was fanning out,
but I'm like no, but really, I'm being honest, because
it's one of those books that's not just a book,

(04:46):
it is like so many different things. Like one person
said photo album. I said, it reminded me of actually
going into a bookstore. Like I felt that way. It
is black joy, which just being able to witness that
is glorious. It's almost infectious too, because let you feel
that vibe. It is so much hope just being there

(05:08):
watching her celebrate her accomplishments with the many friends, with
her family, who was so beautiful as in fact, had
to send out some emails to be like, hey, if
she comes in your town, you need to go and
see her talk about this book, her experience with this book,
and also buy this book. She's going to be in
DC tomorrow. If you're not listening to this when it's

(05:31):
actually published and is on is available, you're probably gonna
be like what times like time travels be like three
years from now, be like what but even three years
from now, if you haven't gotten that book prose to
the people, you should because it is such a beautiful,
beautiful book and what a testament to such a historical events,

(05:53):
historical places, historical people. There's so much to it. And yeah,
I was just thinking about all the good things that
have had happen for people, the fact that it is
National Library Week and so it's presented by the Georgia
Center for the Book. But it was at the Decatur
Library Auditorium, which is a part of the Cab County Library.
So if you know anything about Georgia, Decab County, decaturs

(06:15):
right next to Atlanta, Fulton County, one of the bigger areas,
more metro areas of Georgia. And it was such a
great time. Like, first of all, going into any library
is fantastic. I don't think I've been to this main
stretch of the library. I have a small one towards
where I live, and I love them, and I love
the librarians there. They're so sweet. They're so excited about

(06:39):
giving you and helping you with your library card. Is
almost like that they won something. It's just so cute.
But this library was talking about the fact that we're
about to hit one hundred years in existence and how
it was started by a black woman on her porch,
like so much history and context to that, and I
was like, how timely again we hit it right on

(07:01):
National Library Week. Everything that has happened around the world,
around the country, especially when it comes to library and
books and banning of books, that it's such an amazing
time to talk about the celebrations and the works of
the many people within the system. And I was looking
through like many librarians who have become activists or who
were activists or are activists without even trying, just literally

(07:24):
trying to curate their offerings of books and things for
kids and for others to learn. And the fact that
they ended up becoming activists because of their work, Like
how do you walk into of profession having to defend
your work when it's just literally talking about when someone

(07:44):
comes in and asks for a subject and being able
to point them into the right direction. And that's become
a battleground for so many politicians now, which is absurd.
And the fact that, yeah, it's pretty hard to become
a librarian. I remember, I have a good friend of
mine who who she was like working on her degree,
uh media specialists, and just getting a job was kind

(08:07):
of difficult in filing books because it's such a like
wanted job and then people stay there forever and you
have to get master's degree. People are shocked by that
fact and always too. My ignorant self didn't understand. I
was like, the librarian has to do what and the
fact that they have to learn so much and under
understand so much about archiving and indexing and researching. I'm like, yeah,

(08:29):
you know what, that makes a lot of sense. As
then I've looked up a few, uh, like amazing activism
people that we should know. Yeah, that's coming up, as
well as things that are changing and happening within the system.
Obviously the political climate has really changed with things, but
also how media has changed everything and technology has changed everything.

(08:50):
And we've talked about this for a while. So it
is so much fun when we can actually be a
part of something and be reminded how intersection all these
things are, like National Library Week having a conversation with
someone like Katie talking about her amazing work in book
selling and activism within book selling and within bookstores. Also

(09:11):
like being able to support small businesses, being able to
support individual people who are working really hard in jobs
and in places that are really hard to maintain. There
was questions like if we had a Q and A,
and there are so many questions from like book owners,
bookshop owners being like, how do we do these things
to keep in line with not only our standards and morals,

(09:35):
but also opening remaining open in a business. It's such
a deep conversation, but it was such a great experience.
And now my goal, I'm going to follow Katie and
everywhere I go, I'm going to try to find one
of the bookstores that she mentions, because she not only
mentions and highlights so many. In the back, she adds

(09:56):
more like she's like, I might not have talked about them,
but here's more bookstore. I'm really excited. I feel like
I've got a good like tour happening soon.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I think, so that's sounds lovely.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I want to do this. I'm so excited because I
was talking about me and my uh chunky self talking
about going to barbecues all over the world or all
over the country. One time, I talked about doing marathons,
have marathons all over the country. My new goal going
to bookstores, which I love. So New Orleans, of course,
had a plethora of bookstores, and I actually love, love,
love going to libraries. Anyway, when I'm traveling Boston, New York,

(10:32):
we went to so many places, and our part of
that is also seen if our books are there the
libraries have them. I haven't really seen them in a
lot of the bookstores some of them, some of them.
And as in fact listeners, you know, we love getting
pictures of our books out there. So if you see them,

(10:53):
send it to us. It's kind of encouraging to know
that our work didn't just go to the wayside.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah it is, it is, but like I would.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Love to know if you've seen them, the libraries having
them in the libraries. I think it's one of my
favorite things to see. When the New York Library had
like four copies, I was like, whoa look at us.
I haven't you know what, I haven't checked in our
own libraries. I need to check them out. And if
you want to request them, yes, that's a really good

(11:26):
way to go. And by the way, again, end that
episode with Katie Mitchell, we talked about you can go
to good books dot com to order and that is
actually her pop up bookstore, an online bookstore, so you
know it goes to great people to do that. And
also you need to look up pro to the people
to see where she is touring because she's all going
all over the country. So it's really really great conversations

(11:48):
to be had. I'm trying to think of all of
the great things that I think are happening right now,
even though a lot of dark things are happening as well.

(12:09):
But yes, we did. Also, I was going to talk
about my New Orleans trip in which I ate all
the food that I possibly could, including Loretta's Beignet's, which
was mentioned. I loved it at Katie's book tour because
she's talking about food memories and I was like, yes, Loretta,
is it really? I missed out on my mini trips

(12:30):
to New Orleans previously and now I know, So that's
going to be one of my highlighting spots. Loretta's Beignet's
next time. I'm going to get the crab beignet. It's
like a whole standwich in a beignet.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And honestly, I sent you this text and this is
like a Savor crossover, but I had no idea what
prailings were. Apparently in my mind they were just candied
pecns uh huh, and that's it. And I didn't know
it was a whole like cookie and chewy thing and
like whole controversy what it is, including how to say it?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yep, and I'm interested in the way you just said it.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I said pray laks because that's how I have heard it.
And then when we were in Loretta, someone said prawlings
colleens and I was like, what.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, that And there's a third pronunciation. I told you,
I can't remember what it is, but there's a third pronunciation.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Is it that creole level of pronunciation? I feel like
that might be No, I think it's I think it's
like the lines because it's spelled lines pray lines. That
makes sense, something like the fourth one, wouldn't it pray
pra and then clean lawn line's. There's there's a lot.

(13:42):
But anyway, I figured out that I didn't know what
those were. Even from being from the South, I did
not know exactly what because I don't like pecans. I
don't like pecans or walnuts, you know, like them. They
leave a very bitter taste in my mouth. But like
so I didn't think about that. I was like, Oh,
that's what those are. I really had no idea because
I was confused by the setup of Loretta's because they

(14:06):
have their freshly done like baked pralines in their display
and I was like, what is that?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
That just like a.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Caramel drop like, which, by the way, can be said
in many ways as well, but Loretta's. And then we
also went to Dookie Chase and we met Leah Chase's daughter,
who was the executive chef before she passed a world
renown chef, and her daughter would say, I was shaking
everybody's hands. I was like, what it felt so again,
like one of those moments of like this is historic

(14:34):
to me, like this is significant. And she just came by.
She was like, hope you're enjoying the food. We just
want to say thank you for coming. And I was like,
by the way, it met every expectation. She's like, oh,
oh my goodness, thank you like her heart like. I
was like, I love you. Can I can I live here?
I did not. They also had the best gumbo as
expected as expected, so my partner really went on a

(14:56):
muffletta hunt and we went to Central grocerym It was
really good. It wasn't what we were expecting. I think
we wanted. We were expecting like the toasted version in
our heads. And then I was like, oh, I guess
that doesn't make sense. I loved it, and he liked
it too, but again. He wanted that toasted version. So
we went to Verdiemart, which is on the corner of

(15:18):
the French Quarter, which, by the way, as much as
we try to avoid the French Quarter, we ended up
there every time. Every tale, Yeah, every time we could
not get away. And also Annie, I learned too late
about the legend of Scrim and I didn't get the

(15:39):
stories that I or anything in relation to that. And
I'm very sad about this. Do you know the legend
of Scrim I don't think. So it's new, it's a
newer legend. So all over the place we found like
a little children's book. And then like all of a sudden,
I saw like a painting at one of our favorite
lake brunch spots, Surres, and I was like, who what

(16:00):
is this? And it turns out that there is a dog,
an escapeboardist dog in that in twenty twenty four, I believe,
so last year ran away and was gone for like
six months, but he became such like an infamous dog
in that area that they had like sightings sites for
his sightings and people were chasing this dog down and

(16:23):
it's just like this terrier dog who is so cute,
and it became like a whole legend of its own,
to the point again children's stories at artwork, and then
like free scrim type of things were happening. And then
after they finally caught him, he was placed in a
foster home and in he lived in an upstairs area.

(16:45):
He jumped fifteen feet off the balcony and ran away
for another three to four months. And this time just
recently at the end of we had that huge storm,
especially in Norlands, they got that first storm in years, snowstorm,
and he was survived that he survived this. So he
has become a legend in the making of New Orleans,

(17:08):
and like to the point that the city council named
a day after him, I think, gave him a whole
little parade and an award, like it became a thing.
And I am so sad that I did not realize
it till it was too late, because I could not
find any march. Because I did, I was like, well,
now I need the book. But I was I loved

(17:28):
everything because you would turn around and there would be
little art pieces, and I was just so thoroughly confused
by this very scruffy, cute looking dog and why everybody
knew scrim but of course it's like a local legend,
you know, right. I love those. Those are some of
my favorite tales to have.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, those are always fun.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like it kind of reminds me of the atl Cat
Missing cat, you know, the missing cat, which is like
the most ridiculous, like one of our I think our
land is the artist that has like the black cat
that looks like it's missing a tooth or something, and
it looks very scraggly, it's missing, and it has all
these ridiculous facts. That's probably not true. I don't know

(18:12):
if it's based off a real cat or not, but
it's pretty big. I can't believe you don't know what
I'm talking about. I have to send you a picture,
you know. I feel like you would see that. It's
like you've seen it. You're like, oh, I remember, I
know I've seen this. Okay, Okay, you about to say something.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Oh, I was just gonna say, you've seen there's like
there's a cat. There's a neighborhood cat, oh, that I
have run into several times that sometimes I feel like
it's a legend. She does not move out of the way. Uh,
she's very confident.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Is it the Siamese cat.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, I stole and brought to you.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, I love her. It was very sweet and it
was like rubbing on me getting them pets. It was like, oh,
this is someone's pet, I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
But she just she just roams the neighborhood I see
or just randomly. Sometimes she scares me and I'm just
like god, you know, because she doesn't move out of
the way.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I love it. Well. I love these legends, and I
think there's gonna be a couple of more trips in
the United States for me. So I hope I'm going
to learn more legends like this all around the country
because it just makes for a trip. When you learn
these you feel like you're an insider now, as well
as the fact like uh yeah going to these bookstores.
So I just everything made it for those who were interested. Everything.

(19:33):
Everything was great and peaceful. We did have an oopsie
with the car, but it's it's fine, But I like
there was no moments where I felt really in danger
or anything. So the travel was really good. I feel
like it was a good experience and it made me
feel a lot more at ease. Of course, not to
say that something can't happen or something wouldn't happen, but

(19:54):
right now, like if I feel like that was a
successful trip. It really like driving through Alabama and got
to see good friends of the show, good friends of
mine in Alabama, and then you know, making it back
and having a great time, no incidents, So it was
really nice. So having those trips, having being able to

(20:15):
come back home and celebrate Katie's accomplishments, it just felt
like a really nice week.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
It was. It was a nice week, and I got
to hang out with Peaches.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
You did a great job.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I know you know you never next time then, Oh gosh,
I hope not. Well. Listeners, let us know if you
have any thoughts about this, about libraries and bookstores, traveling, food, legends,
all of it. We would love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Oh yes, if your town has a legend, send it
to me about your pets or something.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh yes, please do. You can email us at Hello
at stuff I Never Told You dot com. You can
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and we have a book. Yeah, you can get where
you get your books. Let us know if you see
it somewhere in the wild. Thanks as always to our

(21:15):
super producer Consenior Executive pducer My and our contributor Joey.
Thank you and thanks to you for listening. Stuff Never
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