SMNTY Interviews: Monique (AKA Blackbeltbabe)

Monique, also known on social media as Blackbeltbabe, shares her experience in organizing and social media.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I wrote with stuff when never told your protection to
Buyheart Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
And once again I have wielded my podcast powers to
interview face to face with someone that I only know
through social media and I have followed for a while now,
so it feels like I'm meeting a celebrity whenever I'm like, i've.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Seen you recently as in today.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
But with that, I'm so excited to have on Monique,
who is also known as black Belt Babe on social media.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Monique, welcome, thank you.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm so happy to be here, y'all. Definitely happy to
be sharing a space with you.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
When I tried to find you and I was like
producer Christina, we need to find this person because I
need her on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
She's like, I can't get to anything. We don't see anything.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Only she's so good at keeping her social media life
and personal life separate.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's a magic trake. I want you to know that.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Thank you. It truly is, and it's something I'm always
very intentional about, you know, and I call it the
grass touching world. But I'm a wife, I'm a mom,
and my husband is a relatively private person. And then
my daughter, of course, we keep her off of social media,
so it's really important for me to maintain some sort
of privacy. But I do meet people sometime in person.
They're like, I think I know you, and I'm like,

(01:26):
it's probably TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
And yes, I think I know you in the social media,
of course, but all of that now that you've corrupt in.
Can you introduce yourself to our listeners?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Absolutely so, Hi, y'all. My name is Monique, also known
as black Belt Babe. I'm a community organizer. I am
a public sector worker and a proud union member. I'm
also somebody that gives views and views from the people struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And how would you describe your contents because you do
a lot. What is the best way you think to
describe your country?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Absolutely so. I never had a niche until actually a
couple months ago. I used to just talk about anything
and everything. But recently what I started to do is
what I call news and Views from the Struggle. I
actually got that from the community organization that I organized
with the Jacksuville Community Action Committee. At our meetings, we
actually have one the CD we do a segment literally
called News and Views from the people's struggle, and we

(02:22):
go over what's happened in our city, what's happened all
over the nation. And I was like, you know what,
I'm going to put this on TikTok. So what I
started to do is just exactly what it sounds like,
news and views from the people's struggle. So, as a
community organizer, somebody that is very deeply engrossed and involved
in my community, it was really important for me to
essentially give my viewers news from somebody that is out
there and seeing what is happening in the world and

(02:44):
fighting back against what is currently happening in the world.
It was really important for me to give content that
was easy to read because we know that in America
the literacy level is extremely low. So what I do
is I try my best to have my content on
a seventh grade reading level or an eighth grade reading level,
so it's easy for people to understand and it's easy
for people to digest. But I give news as somebody
that is a community organizer, as somebody that is a

(03:06):
black woman living in the South, as somebody that is
a public sector union worker, just so people can see
what's happening from the perspective of a regular working class person, right.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
And yes, I would definitely say your content is very
accessible and it is something that is both digestible but like.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Still hard to take.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
That seems like the realm of the world today is
like I need the news, but I gotta get it
in a way that doesn't feel like I have to
burn my phone after after getting that news. And I
found it interesting because you talked about in part of
your growth how you decided to use your platform, why

(03:46):
you decided to use this and can you talk about
why this type of content, why you chose this type
of content instead of going a different route.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Absolutely so. When I first started on TikTok, it was
in twenty twenty. It was the summer of the rebellion,
and I was covering the rebellion and actions that were
happening all over the world and all over the country.
It was an uprising. I mean, I don't want to
characterize it as anything different than a worldwide uprising, and
people were having a hard time finding events in their
cities and protests in their cities. So it was extremely
important for me because I was like, oh, I'm gonna

(04:17):
get on TikTok I'm home quarantine. Everybody's home quarantine. That
people want to go protest. Okay, let's let me get
these safe protests together. And then a couple of years later,
of course, the rebellion started to die down and we
started to get some of the backlash elements of it.
I was still organizing, so started to still post the
protests and what we were doing, especially here in Florida. Yeah,

(04:38):
that's the conversation for another day. But recently I started
to do entertainment, and then I started to do what
I call Wendy Williams talk, where I was essentially talking
about other people, and I didn't like it. It felt
fake to me. It was very outside of the realm
of my personality and which I'm talking about people that
I don't know, you know what I mean. So for
me pivoting to this content, it was because I was

(05:00):
getting so burnt out doing the entertainment Wendy Williams talk,
always trying to look for an outreage cycle, and it
was so juxtaposed to my personality and who I am
in the grass touching world. I said, I'm going back
to the basics. I'm going back to where and what
I started on TikTok, which was essentially what was happening
during the rebellion. We are in an era of where
we are seeing things happen so quickly, and people don't

(05:24):
know what to think. They don't know where to find
reliable news, they don't know how to find news that's
easy to understand and where somebody's going to sit and
explain it to them. And so I saw a gap there.
And also there wasn't a lot of news where it
was just regular working class people that were actually community organizers,
actually part of unions, actually living here in the South
where a lot of these attacks happened. And so I

(05:46):
found that gap and I said, you know what, I'm
done with entertainment talk. It's nice, it's cute. I'm so
burnt out from it, though. I'm moving on to news
and views from the struggle. And I really appreciate my
spouse because he would send me these stories and he'd
be like, you need to talk about this. And at
first it started as a once a week's segment where
I said, here's everything that's happening, blah blah blah blah blah, headlines, headlines,

(06:06):
and then my followers and my viewers were like, girl,
hold on, you need to explain.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
This to us.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's crazy. Essentially, they're like, they were like, you can't
just give us the headline and then not go over
what's happening. And so from once a week it went
to Okay, here's a story every day, and then I
essentially pivoted out of entertainment news full time to do
news and views from the struggle. And it has gotten me.
So it's curated a community that is very healthy and

(06:34):
very positive. Now the news is horrible, right, I mean
the news is terrible, right, like sitting in a therapist
chair every two weeks and terrible. I mean it's so bad.
It truly is like I feel like I wake up
and I'm like writing these stories up and I remember
my segment this morning. It was so bad everything that
I was talking about, and I said it straight up.

(06:54):
I said, yeah, I don't have anything positive for you today,
So here's what's happening. So to answer your question, I
kind of got into this concept full time because I
saw that there was a gap. I didn't see a
lot of people that were looking like me. I didn't
see a lot of people that were part of the
working class part of the community organizer type of deal

(07:16):
that I have going on, and I just I wanted
to fill that gap for somebody else that was probably
looking for.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
That type of content, right, And I think you also
add for me when I was looking for like news content.
And I've noticed this trend more and more because I'm
seeing younger generations. All y'all, you're younger, But I love
this because of bringing the news in a different way
very fast, very quickly, hopefully very fast.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I tried to find like time stamps. But also you
do it on all the points.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Like I've noticed some of the people that are trusted
on TikTok specifically leave out some things because of the
real and that's alarming. That's alarming that if you're willing
to like edit this part out, but you're not going
to talk about the whole it's it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It becomes and trustworthy, Like that's just be really on us.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And not only do you have a perspective in which
you do bring out all the things as an organizer,
as an advocate, which is something huge on our show.
Activism is something that has always been a part of
my life, being a part of social work growing up
and trying to be someone who works advocating for those
who can't advocate for themselves. That was kind of like
if I had a tagline that was it when I

(08:21):
was in social work trying to figure.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
That part out.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
But then like seeing this in a perspective that you're
also from a red state, a very red state with
a lot of corruption, and we say that that's a
different perspective too, But we have to come in and
have this argument of like, not all voters, most of
the voters as in fact from these areas are very

(08:43):
against these policies, but after Jerry Mannering and after all
of the voter suppression and issues such as that, that
those rights have been taken away from us. So you
having this platform means even more to people like us
who are in the red states, like no, please, we
can't stop fight. You can't be like let's just cut
Florida off. That's not how this was. People are suffering.

(09:05):
Your people, meaning those who are voting to fight against
this type of corruption, need a platform.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
And I don't think people understand that that's such a
great point that you brought up, especially living in a
red state, living in the belly of the beast like
in the Southern States, our electoral maps and our electoral
districts have been so jerry mander that our voices are
so devoted. In Florida, they literally got rid of a
majority black voting districts and they were allowed to do it.

(09:34):
And we and we fought, and we fought it. We
thought and we fought it. We fought and we won
in court that we lost in court. But that takes
time and that takes money. So oftentimes I hear or
I see this news where people are talking about the
things that are happening in our states. We deserve because
this is what we voted for. I didn't vote for that.
I didn't go into the voting booth in November and

(09:54):
vote for Donald Trump. I didn't. I did what I
was supposed to do because as a community organizer, we
look at voting as a tool. It's not the end
all be all, but it is a tool in our toolbox,
and it is a civil right that our ancestors fought
or So I'm going to go vote and I did
my job and I voted against Trump. And then I'm
going on social media after the election and seeing all
these people blamed Florida, Blame Georgia, blame all these different

(10:17):
bred states, and I'm like, dude, we're so jerrymander that
our votes don't even matter. They literally went into these
legislative sessions and they redrew these political maps to give
Republicans more power, and somehow it's our fault for doing
what we were supposed to do. It's so frustrating. And
I live in Jacksonville where the last election it was
twenty yeah, the twenty twenty election, and we went blue

(10:37):
for the first time. I mean, it was a really
big deal. It was the first time in a very
long time. We went blue for our president's election this
time around. And we are a majority black city. But
because of consolidation and voter suppression, all that horrible stuff
this election this time around that they read through the maps,
they did a lot of voter suppression. We didn't go

(10:58):
blue like a couple votes. It was absolutely insane. And
somehow people like me and people like y'all that did
not vote for Donald Trump in this election did not
want Donald Trump's running since I was in college. I'm
sorare of this man, right, We didn't vote for this,
but somehow we deserve the things that we're going to see,
and that's just that can be. That's just so far
from the truth and the things that they're talking about. Oh,

(11:19):
this is going to happen. It's already happening in our states.
Voter suppression is already happening in our states. Police brutality
is already happening in our states. Hateful legislation against immigrants
has already been happening in our states. Now the entire
United States is going to be Georgia in Florida, right,
you hear what I'm saying. So that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And that's the thing is like when having someone like you,
who has almost eight hundred and twenty thousand congratulations followers
on TikTok, it's amazing to see people understanding this background
of like the war that's happening, because I guarantee most
of the people did not realize Jacksonville was mainly a
large black population and you're.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Like, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
What yeah, okay, and that there are groups of people
who are working to do this, And so having you
being a part of the news information, social media influence
is amazing again because I don't see enough people of color,
black women, specifically being highlighted in this type of conversation.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
So I love this part. This is why I think
I got so excited.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm like, I must have her on the show because
we must highlight what is happening because the work is amazing.
I will say I was trying to remember, like what
which video it was that got me to be like,
oh is this follow and then because I couldn't quite remember,
it definitely was one of those this is what happened
this week type of thing.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm pretty sure it was that. But then the thing
that I loved the most, I don't know what it was.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean, the big key one, but the personality that
I fell in love with was when you were like,
for the love of God, calmed down by the TikTok band.
Supreme Card did not say this, I need you all
to calm down, and I was like, you know what,
after all the craziness that has happened on TikTok with
everybody go it's gonna be bad, You're like, all right,
First of all, this is misinformation on both parts, So

(13:05):
I was like, this is very like unbiased view of
like everybody needs calm down. So I love that delivery.
First and foremost it did make me calm down. It
was it was like you had a mama speak of
like condos, and that's.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
The goal too. And the TikTok fan was so frustrating
because in my household, you know, we we don't get
like crazy money or anything from TikTok. But some of
my videos, not the videos on Pali side, which that's
a whole different conversation for another day how those are,
but sometimes some of my videos they do bring in
a little bit of income and that's been very helpful.
So I remember talking to my husband about it and

(13:39):
he was like, Babe, we're gonna be fine. I was like,
you know what, And I ended up doing that video
and then funny thing, just a random point. The reason
I started doing those morning segments and afternoons segments is
because I don't necessarily work on TikTok while at work
unless it's during my duty free lunch. And so I'd
come home and I'd have to record all these segments

(14:00):
and I'd had to edit all this stuff, and I
would be working until seven thirty. So I wasn't spending
enough time, I thought, with my husband and with my daughter.
And she's only two so she's at an age, right,
I want to spend you know, any age, but I
want to spend as much time with her as possible.
And my husband, he didn't complain about it, but I
could tell he's, you know, missing me a little bit
in the evening because you know, we get home at
around the same time. And so what I started to

(14:22):
do is wake up an hour earlier to do the
morning segments so I can have more time with my
name in the afternoon. So I remember pitching those morning
segments to my mom and my sister who kind of
and my husband, who kind of act as QUASEI managers,
and they said, yeah, I do it. If it's going
to need you spend more time with Mike, who's my husband,
and then my daughter a Tala, then you absolutely should

(14:43):
be doing these segments. So I started waking up an
hour early to do these morning segments. But they're so
necessary and people like them, so I'm going to keep
waking up an hour earlier.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So that's a lot of work. So thank you for
that for me.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
But also just because of the way the news changes,
I'm sure order to be updated, it kind of has
to be that way.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Like we have a.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Problem where we record things and even if it's going
to be published that day or the next day, it's
still is outdated because we new information comes in, we're like,
son of yeah, we were so closed. But yeah, so
I'm sure that's part. Like it's an amazing way of
doing it. It's such an organized way to do it too,
So again, thank you for that. So a few research

(15:33):
had come out in September about the fact that TikTok
has been a main source for a chunk of people
for their news sources.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
So here's a quote. They said.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
News consumption is also trending upward when looking at TikTok users. Specifically,
around half of TikTok users fifty two percent now say
they regularly get news there from forty three percent last
year and just twenty two percent and twenty twenty. The
TikTok users are more likely to get news from TikTok
than Facebook users are to get news from Facebook.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Also know that that's not news, but you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Still, TikTok users are less likely than users of X
formally Twitter to get news on the site, which is
a little concerning, but the fact that this has grown,
that this kind of content has grown, and I'm not
gonna lie. It's so fantastic because we get to see
an international look instead of a very like curated state
or local look. And I think that's important. Why do

(16:24):
you think this type of content is growing in popularity?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Absolutely and that I did see that Pey research, and
I saw it because there was a legacy media site.
I'm not going to say the name, but they were
on TikTok making fun of people that are getting their
news from TikTok. I really think that it is displaying
because a lot of these news sites, legacy media specifically,

(16:47):
like you were saying, well, I'm just gonna say this,
I'm just gonna hopefully I don't get draged for this.
We get one viewpoint, and that's the viewpoint of the
US Empire. That's the viewpoint that they want us to see.
And when you have independents or aspiring independent journalists or
people that are just reporting, you get all of these
different viewpoints. I look at it and what happened with

(17:08):
Palestine people, and I'm trying to be very careful with
what I say. After October twenty twenty three, I go
on legacy media side, and I'm looking like they're saying
this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened. Wait,
hold on, my Palestinian homegirl, she has family in the
West Bank and she was telling us, no, this is happening. No,
this is happening. No, wait, this has happening. Hold on, no,
that's not how it happened. I said, you know what

(17:29):
this is. This is crazy because this site is telling
us one thing, but somebody that's directly affected and has
family living in the West Bank and knows people in
Gaza telling us another thing, which one is the truth?
And then obviously we realize like this is the truth
what my Palaestinian homegirl was telling me, and I'm just like, no,
this is this is crazy, And I think TikTok because

(17:50):
there's people that are getting into this news and us content.
They're giving us different perspective. They're doing this research, they're
talking to people. I get tips all of the time
for people now and my dms that are like, you
need to check this out. Here's what's happening. And with
legacy media that's just not the case. They give you
one viewpoint, it's the viewpoint that they want you to see,
it's the viewpoint that has been rubber stamped by the

(18:13):
government for us to view and for us to essentially digest.
And that's also kind of why the TikTok band came
into information in the first place, because TikTok is such
an easy way to spread information so so quickly. I
saw with their rebellion in twenty twenty, you had people
popping up that process. They were like, hey, I saw
this process on your page. Now, this is when I
had ten thousand followers. So the information spreads so so quickly.

(18:36):
And the way that I do it too, I try
to speak as fast as I can. I have a
lot of followers who are neurodivergent and they say, like
that way of speech. I'm also neurodivergent, so sometimes I
have pressured speech and I can't help talking fast. But
TikTok is just an easy way to get out as
much information, as much news as possible without there being
a bias that legacy media sometimes has.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yes, that's heavy, Yeah, no, No, I just think about
all of the things that you were saying with the Palestinian.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Like it really changed.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I feel like that became a focal point where it
changed the way we perceived what is being fed to us.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Absolutely, and I it's very frustrating for me specifically with
that I've been engaging in that type of work since
twenty seventeen. I have a friend, sodom A Mood. She
runs the Jacksonville Palastine Solidarity Network and she has been
engaging in this work. Her entire life is Palestinian. And

(19:32):
seeing this news spread and more people join the movement
or passing in liberation, it was crazy, I mean, and
it seemed like it happened over night. But then she,
you know, she's been working for forever. She's like, this
didn't happen over night, and this is the result of
us doing the work, you know, during the downtime and
when there's an upswing, us just being prepared. But that

(19:52):
really did change that for me as a news abuse person.
That changed everything for me because it built a since
distrust in legacy media that I may not have had before. Now,
legacy media is important, and press is important, and there
should be a variety of different media sites. You know,
CNN is helpful for some people that may not have

(20:12):
access to a television and they can go to seeinn
dot com. They can get breaking news alerts like that.
But it's really important when looking at these legacy media
sites to understand that sometimes you're only getting one viewpoint,
and you should, you know, behind the headline, you should
research other things because there's other perspectives that may not
be shared on these legacy media sites. And I'm very

(20:32):
thankful for my homegirl for being patient and talking to
me about this, because before twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, I
had I really didn't have an idea of what was
what was going on, if that makes sense. I it
was kind of it seemed like a distant problem and
a distant world that had nothing to do with me.
And then she really sat me down in a bunch
of other people and explained the interconnectedness of that, and

(20:54):
I was like, oh wait, so this these are the
people on Twitter if that were giving us tips well,
you know, being tear gas during the rebellion for Mike
Brown and Freddie Gray. Oh okay, this makes sense, and
so the interconnectiveness of it is beautiful, and I truly
am grateful for her and anybody else. But that did
kind of that changed a lot in news reporting, and

(21:15):
just it built so much distrust for me myself and
just realizing that I'm going to look at this article
of legacy media and I'm gonna eat the meat, spit
out the bones, and go and do my own research.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes, which is so so so important. And speaking of changes,
that is one one you've talked about, But are there
any other changes you've seen since you started to where
you are now when it comes to news coverage and
current affairs?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Absolutely so, do you mean in terms of what I'm
covering or just changes.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
In content both, any what changes you've seen witnessed?

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Absolutely so. It's interesting because I'll sometimes on my fo
you page see another person cover something I covered, but
they'll cover it in a different in a different way.
I'll bring up Khalil or excuse me in my mood Khalil,
for example, I covered it in a way where I said,
this is an attack on free speech, like straight up,
I was a college activist most of my entire college career.

(22:18):
This is an escalation, this is crazy. And then another
person on my for you page I saw cover it
that was like, oh, well he said this and he
said that, and essentially to me, it gave this is
why he should be deported. And that was that was
kind of awkward to me. I was like, ehh, So
I started to see people kind of I don't want
to use the word propaganda because maybe that's that's too

(22:38):
much of a hot butt word. What changes I've seen
is usually people would never cover anything in Palace side,
anything international, anything about Africa kicking out French troops, they
would cover any of it. It would literally just be America focused. Now,
as I'm getting more followers and growing and growing and growing,
I'm seeing a lot more international news coverage come down
my for you page from other content creators who are

(23:00):
primarily in the news and news world. Now is it
what I would like to watch? No, because I feel
that it doesn't give an accurate viewpoint as somebody that's
a work glass person like I don't feel like it does.
But I am glad they're covering international issues now, but
before they weren't. And then in terms of my content
things that I've changed. I used to kind of read

(23:21):
off a paper. I'm a teleprompter now, so that's very
helpful to kind of just look. Another thing that has
been quite a change are a welcome change, is I
have been kind of looking at my comments a lot
more responding to the comments that people have questions that
kind of write it in my notes, and then I
go with research and answer the question. The other day,
a lot of my followers had questions of why the

(23:42):
Trump administration is sending so many undocumented people to these
detention centers in Louisiana, and I found out it was
because of the judges they have friendly pro Trump and
there are mostly Trump appointees, hardline immigration judges that are
going to essentially deport all these people. But that's kind
of the changes I've seen people go from not covering
anything in Palace side at all, now they're starting to

(24:02):
say stuff. It is a little biased, in my opinion,
but at least they're talking about it now, right.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I find that interesting with the detention centers because I
did see that pop up in your response, because we
also know that there's been a lot of privatization when
it comes to detention centers, and the South has big,
big contracts. I say this, I worked in the Department
of Juvenal Justice, so we during my time they closed
down private detention centers. They're trying to reopen them, and

(24:29):
I find this very alarm alarming. With the same along
the lines of what's coming on with the deportations and
immigration and refugee issues and who's making the most amount
of money. That's a whole other side, Monique, you and
I you to talk, that's the whole other side.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
But it is interesting.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
And you were talking also because I am also on
your spam account. Yes, I'm that deep in with you,
whether you want me to be or not. You're talking
about like in both the good players and the bad
players when it comes to like comments and people coming in,
and you know, there are a lot of good people

(25:06):
out there, but again sure also some bad players. We've
all we've ran into view ourselves. What are some things
that we should be wary of when it comes to
Carnivent's content, like not only in your comments to try
to miss like spread misinformation there because that's what they do,
but just also in other contents. What should be we
be wary of when it comes to stuff like that?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Absolutely, so that's fan page I'm about to test. But
those motherfuckers stressed out and in that comments section, I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna go over there
talk about it. But I love it my most important thing, honestly,
And it may sound really crazy. For me, it is
class basis, and it's also like ethnicity. Is this person

(25:52):
a regular working person? Is this person just trying to
make it? Like? Is this person just fighting to survive?
Is this person on TikTok as like a side hustle
to you know, go with their nine to five? Like?
Is this a regular person? And that sounds weird? And
then for me, I love like if I see people,
especially black women, that are giving news content, I'm like,

(26:12):
oh my gosh, this person looks like me. This person
is the working class person. Okay, so they're going to
share my same views because at the bare bones of it,
as workers, we we kind of are fighting the same battle.
I mean, it sucks, we're fighting to survive under capitalism.
So because we have that basis of knowledge and that

(26:34):
basis of experience, the way you report news is going
to be as somebody that is affected by it. The
way that I report news is somebody that is that
is affected by it, you know what I mean, Like
somebody that is affected by the election, someone that's affected
by Jerry Mandarin, somebody that is affected by all the
hateful rhetoric against immigration. My mother in laws Filipino my

(26:55):
husband have Filipino, and she came to the country when
she was in her thirties. She's worked haward her life.
She's still working to this day when she does not
have to. And to see some of the things that
people say about immigrants, people that come to this country
in search of a better world, it makes me angry.
But it makes me angry one because I'm a person
with a conscience, but also because I have that base

(27:17):
of experience. And because I have that base of experience,
I'm not going to be reporting news about the Trump
administration deporting people in a monotone voice. No that I'm
not going to be reporting it in that way, because
I like, I don't think it's right, you know. So
that's an extremely important thing to look at. Its just
does this person have the same values that I have?

(27:38):
Is this person? Does this person have the same life
experience that I have? Is this person someone that is
participating in harmful systems? Or is this person somebody that
is not necessarily a victim, but somebody that is affected
by these harmful systems. When I realize that we have
that same basis, I'm like, oh, I can follow them,
because the news is not going to be biased. The
news is not going to be in a place where

(28:00):
they're kind of like monotone talking about like the most
formal thing in the entire world. Now, I do give
unbiased news. My news is not biased at all whatsoever.
I kind of just put it out there. But at
the end of the day, if someone is a white surpermaces,
I'm gonna call them white services. I always say, I
tell the truth, like, and that makes me unbiased because
I am telling you the truth. Now you may not
like to hear it, but that's just what it is.

(28:21):
So that's what I would look out for. Just somebody
that shares the same you know, basis of knowledge and
experience them in life and you'll you'll be just fine. Right.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I think I figured out something too during the election stuff.
When people idolize a candidate instead of seeing them as
a choice, that's that's like a big warning sign to
me that I'm like, you're a way too, Like they're human. Eventually,
something they do you're going to disagree with, and that's okay,
and we should be able to call that out. But
if in the overall this is the best interest for

(28:52):
the people in humanity, then okay.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
But like that was something that I would like really
quickly was like.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh, this is given a little a little idolizing of
people who sometimes care.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I don't know, they questioned me ugly.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, I mean that election time for me, especially somebody
that's doing news and views, because I really was trying
to report it. I was really trying to report it
in the most fair way possible because first of all,
Trump supporters don't even follow me. They know I wasn't
voting for Trump. That was not really even an option.
So I was trying to report it in a very

(29:30):
honest way. There was a lot of things at stake,
but there was also a lot of issues that needed
to be needed to be down within that election. But
my viewpoint about the election, especially somebody that did get
out to vote events, somebody that would to vote, somebody
that was actually in the community organizing, because I didn't
want to go through Trump again that organized under him

(29:50):
for almost the entire time news in office. Obviously I
didn't want him in again. Right, my motto now unite
and fight against Trump. I'm not talking about what happened
last year during the election. It's done. The results are in,
the results are tabulated, it's looking over and I've been
trying to say it like that in a way that
helps people kind of understand. I'm not talking about Kamala

(30:11):
Harrison more. I'm not even going to talk about Joe
Biden anymore. They're not in office. Who's in office. Trump
Advance are in office, and these are the people that
are going to be sending down these policies to mess
up our lives. Why are we talking about what happened
in October and November? Still it's not going to help
us to unite, invite. So yeah, with that, people are
still kind of beating the dead horse with the election talk,

(30:34):
and they can do that all they want. But for me,
I'm not pointing fingers at anybody except for the people
that voted for that man a third time. You voted
for him a third time. That's who I'm pointing fingers at.
But everybody else, if I even then, I'm not even
pointing fingers at them. I'm just saying, hey, you know,
do what you do, when you do it, how you
do it. I'm going to do what I do when

(30:54):
I need to do it. But for me, my model
right now, especially the London Trump Again, Unite and I
will unitify with anybody if we have the same basis,
we have practice, and we have the same ideas, like
similar and goal, let's go, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
It got ugly, yeah for us in Georgia. Is us
yelling at also and warnock be like do better, keep better?
Actually fight for us?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yes, that's been our new thing.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
But anyway, again, I'm somewhat familiar with do TikTok content,
as I keep mentioning, because you know, I have to
tell you I'm a superfan. Obviously, your work has also
been based around justice and advocacy, which is I think

(31:42):
again a while I was like, yes, this is my
this is my person, this is my person that I
need to talk to. Can you talk about how this
type of work of advocacy and your content and social
media intersect.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Absolutely, it's community organizing shapes my entire life. I met
my husband at an anti trunk. We got married that
same year. I mean, literally, this beautiful man at this process.
Who is that? It shaped my entire adult life. As
in college I was an organizer with students for Democratic Society.

(32:14):
We chased Nazis off our campus, literal Nazis. I'm not
just calling him that he said, he did an interview
he said, Hey, I'm Kim Parker and I'm a Nazi.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
And then when I graduated from college, I started to
organize more with the group that I co found at
the Jacksville Community Actual Committee. We led the historic March
of the Streets thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
We fought against these horrible bills that the SANTIS has
passed down from anti union bills to HB one, which
was a bill that essentially would make it legal for
people to run us over with a car while protesting.

(32:43):
They struck that, but then they had other horrible stuff
that was in there. Even now, we're fighting against a
billion dollars jail project that they're trying to build here
in our city. It shaped so much of my content
because it's so much of my everyday life. On any
given day, we are doing some sort of organization for
the Jesua Community Action Committee. We have a meeting tonight
where we're going to go and talk with community about

(33:05):
doing an educational event about the new jail and why
we don't need a billion dollar jail. So when I
do my content, I always talk about my advocacy because
It's always something that I'm doing right, you know, I
can't leave it out because it's a daily thing for
me to be organizing in some fashion. The immigrant rights

(33:26):
work here. We are the jcc's helping kind of start
that up with gr the Jenexicville Immigrant Rights Alliance, and
that has been something that has been taken up a
lot in my time. So we've been posted about that.
So posting about the stuff that's happening with immigration it
helps our community organizations here because they're like, Okay, we're
getting the word out. Were getting the word out. We're
getting the word out. There's an event that we're having

(33:47):
this Saturday because of the things that are currently happening
in Gaza. And I'm talking about what's happening in Gaza.
But at the same time talking about what's happening in Gaza,
I'm telling people what they can do to fight back.
What you can do to fight back. You can go
to an event in your city, you can support Palestinian
organizing groups in your city. Here's a fire, this, that,
and that. So I feel as if if I'm talking

(34:09):
about an issue I never wanted to ever be a
person that was just a talker. If I'm telling you
all these horrible things. I can't leave you hanging with
just listening to all these horrible things. I have to
tell you how you can fighte that. Now, whether you
choose to go and organize and protest, that's up to you.
But I'm at least going to give you that option
to kind of get some of that frustration out and
not feel so helpless and be surrounded by community. So

(34:32):
my community organizing and my active as a work shapes
percent of my content, ninety nine percent of it because
I'm telling you all the horrible things that are happening
in the world. But I'm also telling you the ways
of which you can resist invite back.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Right, So we need to change your name and think
about using views and use.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
It that seriously. Seriously.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yes, I'm sorry to all the people who hated that,
And do you just that felt insulting?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
After that I said that, I was like, but no,
but there needs to be one more tagline to this.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yes, coming back to specifically about your social media path
and all of that. Which video or content was the
one that propelled your social media career?

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Hmmm, I'd have to go back to the beginning. It
was a post about a mod arbery that entire that
entire segment of life was very frustrating for me because
we had Breonna Taylor, a mod Arbury, George Floyd. It
was kind of a powder keg that that led to
the rebellion. It wasn't just George Floyd dying, it was

(35:41):
George Floyd dying after Breonna Taylor had been killed, after
a mod Arbury had been run down by these white
supremacists and shot like he was a dog. And uploading
those videos for me was a way to kind of
one get the word out about what we were doing
because we protested all this stuff. I mean, we were

(36:01):
out in the streets, out of the streets, out of the streets.
That was kind of a way for me to get
out what the Jay Stacy was doing, what sts was doing,
how we were fighting back. But it was also a
way for me to vent these frustrations that I had
seeing these people be murdered. I mean, that's that's what
it was. I was so disturbed by vamade archery video.
I was so disturbed that Breonna Taylor could be shot

(36:23):
in her bed while she slept. I was so I
remember having to go to an emergency therapy appointment after
George Floyd's death, and I tear up even thinking about it. Now.
I was so disturbed at a full video. And that's
the beautiful part about technology. On TikTok, I'm seeing clips
of this video, this man screaming, I can't read. I
was just so disturbed. So posting those videos, sharing my

(36:46):
thoughts and sharing my opinions about what was happening and
how I felt about it, it just took. It just
made me go viral because people were like, Oh, this
is a this is a black woman. She's also an activist.
She's also talking about how she feels. She's also talking
about how I can get involved locally. Oh, I like
her follow follow fallow follow follow, and it seemed like
I went from like it seemed like I went from

(37:06):
a couple of thousand followers to one hundred thousand over night,
and then two hundred thousand, three hundred and now I'm
at eight hundred thousand. Honestly, y'all, it doesn't even feel
real like this, none of this. I mean, my husband
looked the other day, he said, you know, you're at
eight hundred thousand followers. I'm like, yeah, babe, and all
of it still seems surreal. But those videos kind of
talking about what was happening in the world, that really

(37:28):
kind of made me take off.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Oh my goodness, So your honesty and just yes, your love,
Like that's what it comes down to that you had.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
There's such a like bittersweet about that. It's that, like
you deserve the recognition for your work, but the fact
that you had to do.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
That in the name of justice, like it's just and
even today, like I know they're still talking about the
Breonna Taylor case, as they should because she has not
gotten her justice, as well as the fact that they
still try to paint the entire situation in such an
ugly matter where sill talking about the George Floyd case
because I know there was a conversation about an appeal,
which is that and then we know a mod operate

(38:08):
that it won't be long. I bet there's going to
be a conversation about that. And that was one of
the most blatant cases and a reminder for a lot
of everyone. But as great as Atlanta is, George is
not the same, you know, Like and even in Atlanta,
like it's not safe and it's a bittersweet moment to
know that that's what pushed you. Because I'm glad to

(38:30):
be following you, but I hate the circumstances that and.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
The fact that you have to put in that work.
You should be recognized, but you shouldn't have to do all.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
This work, like there's so many there's so many layers
that are like flip a table.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
There's nothing good.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I'm just kidding, I know, but that's what it feels like.
Every moment feels like a flip the table moment. And
there will be some times where I have to stop
recording the segments to scream. And this sounds really dramatic,
but I have been a community organizer for seven years.
It is like running through hell where every once in

(39:05):
a while you might get a water station. This is
hard work. So to do that and then have to
also not have to but choose to give out this news.
It's rough, and that's why I'm in a therapist chair
twice a week and working on myself. But yeah, it is.
Circumstances aren't great, but it needs to be done.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
It needs to be done, yes, and we appreciate it
so much. Is there something that you wish you had
known when you started started this work at the beginning,
I wish I.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Would have known that coming into activism and coming into
community organizing, or even coming into news and use content,
you need to make sure that you take time to
recharge your mental health. You cannot just be out in
this world raw dogging it and like thinking you're not
going to be affected. I have bipolar disorderer. I've been

(40:02):
bipolar my entire life, but just got diagnosed seven years ago.
So it is imperative, especially for someone like me, to
ensure that my mental health is good. And I wish
and I'm grateful for my husband again because he got
me into therapy, but I wish when I started active
organizing and I started news abuse content on TikTok, I
wish I would have taken my mental health a little

(40:22):
bit more seriously. I do now, and I have for
the last couple of years, But even in twenty twenty,
that entire year affected me in ways that I didn't
know that I could be affected, and I realized I
needed to do a little bit more work. But to
anybody that is even thinking about getting into content creation
or thinking about getting into activism, if you're going to
be doing news and views, you need to make sure

(40:42):
that you sit your button a therapist chair at least
once a month. It does help.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Hey man, we love therapy here.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
And you know now that you're giving advice, let's to
just keep going with this. What's some advice you would
give others, especially black women, because we want more black
women to be a part of this conversation to get money,
to get platformed. We need them and we want to
see more of more of them grow. What is some
advice you would give? What is like when it comes
to creating this type of content and starting down the

(41:17):
road to a social media popularity fame.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
I would say to make sure that you are prioritizing
yourself and prioritizing and having kind of a goal of
where you want this to go. When I was a
five hundred thousand dollars I sat down and talked with
my husband and I said, I think I want to
do this, and I want to do this in a
way that is intense, and I want to do this
in a way that is maximum effort. Because be and bipolary,

(41:43):
I either have to do it or I'm not. And
that's just what it is. And so I remember telling
him this. And to any Black women that are thinking
about getting into content creation, stay the course, be consistent,
but please take time to prioritize your mental health. People
are really nasty. That's why I filter my comments and
I love a good block button. Get acquainted with that

(42:05):
block button. Get acquainted with those filtered comments, because people
are going to call you everything but a child of
God for just simply living your life fully and living
your life out loud. The people filter those comments, block
those people, focus on the positive, and prioritize your mental
health and your well being.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Obviously, your work is very tiring and never ending, never ending, repeat,
But how do you choose what type of information to
speak on and what not to speak on?

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Absolutely, So I really look at things that affect black,
working class people, working class people in general, and I
talk about those things. So let's say there's like a
financial crisis that's happening. That's important for people to know.
You need to know what's going to happen, when it's
going to happen, and what's going on. Let's say there's
an instance where there's a new law that makes it

(42:58):
to where police have immunity to do whatever they want X, Y,
and z, that's important for us to know because that's
going to be affecting our communities. Let's say there's something
with Social Security or something with Medicare and Medicaid, that's
important for us to know. A lot of working class
people use these programs. One, Social Security is our right,
we pay into it. Medicare and Medicaid. This is the
closest we have to universal health care, and it's still

(43:20):
most of the time not good enough. So if you
if there's cuts that are happening that's going to affect
tens and tens of millions of people, they need to know.
So I try to do my best to focus on
news that affects working class people. Now, news I do
not cover. If something is like salacious where I know
it's going to upset people, not in a way that's
productive where people want to actually do stuff about it,

(43:41):
but in a way that is only going to cause
hate and division. I'm not going to cover it. I mean,
and it sounds and there's that's very Those stories are
very few and far between, so I try to do
my best, you know, not to cover them. But thankfully
there's a few and far between. But anything that is
going to cause my viewers to feel harmed. I just

(44:02):
try not to cover that. Again, you far between, But
I really focus on news that affects black, working class people,
working class people. Now I've been covering news that affects
the immigrant population as well. This is extremely important to
being my mother in law. I love her so much.
She's from the Philippines. She came here in her thirties.
People say horrible things about just anybody that's come here,
whether they're coming here legally, which no human being is illegal,

(44:25):
or they're coming here in a different former fashion. It
doesn't matter to these people. They're still going to demonize immigrants,
and we just can't deal with guys stand for that.
So I've been covering that as well. But a lot
of stuff I cover it affects working class people. In workers,
I'm in a union, so I love to cover anything
that has to do with public sector unions, even private
sector unions as well, So I try to do that too.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Hell yes, well, speaking of I guess negative reactions. Have
you had much pushback or negative reactions to your content?

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Oh? Absolutely. During the EE I told people, Hey, you
should not be going to this. One famous coffee company
and this one famous fast food restaurant to spike Palestidians
and third party voters because even with those votes, VP
Kamala Harris won't want anyway. They dragged me for forty
days and forty nights over it. They were threatening to
call my job, they were calling me everything by the

(45:20):
Child of God, they were reporting my page, they were
making hate videos telling me to shut up. And I'm like,
I just told you not to support places that use
incarcerated people for labor, that us slaved labor, that kicked
out their employees because they were wearing Black Lives Matter pins,
that kicked out black men from their coffee shop because
they didn't want them lawyer in there and called the police.

(45:42):
And then I'm just telling you how this affects us
as black people, you know, And that's all I'm saying.
You can do what you want to do, but that's
all I'm saying. And they, I mean, it was nasty,
and it was so nasty, and the sad thing is
a lot of it was coming from people that were white,
and I was just like, listen, I get that we're
all upset about the election and all the work that

(46:02):
some of us are going to have to do because
if we're being honest, a lot of these people that
were going back to the coffee shop and going back
to the fast food restaurant and saying they're not going
to be doing this, not going to be doing that,
they weren't doing anything before the election. They just went
to the booth and clicked the buttons and boo boo,
which is fine, which just fine, but I mean it ugly.
I'm another thing that happens too. I'll cover stuff that's

(46:26):
happening internationally, So I'll cover sepal palsied all the time,
because why whatn't I right? This is something that's happening.
Those filter comments sometimes I'll click it and I'll believe,
Oh yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna hear it. I mean,
the racial tropes are nasty, people threatening me, people threatening
my family. And I'll report all the stuff too to TikTok,
and unfortunately it's not taken down. But these comments can

(46:47):
get so nasty. And that's why I do have to
filter comment options because I don't I don't want to
see what's going down in there. I only want to
curate positive positivity. Ninety five percent of my comments are positive,
five percent are nasty, hateful, gut or snite, disgusting. I
just gonna stay in the filter comments.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
That's a smart play. Yeah, yes, don't have a look
at the filter.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Well, speaking of have you, we've kind of heard some
snippets of this throughout our conversation, But have you gotten
to the point of balancing this work with your your
regular job and your everyday life.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
I would say it's balanced. I would say I balanced
them fine. I would say I balance the TikTok world
and the community organizing my job being a mom. I
would say I balanced that fine. My husband says that
I sometimes I run around like a chicken with my
head cut off, and that's fine. I mean it's I
always tell them, like, Babe, I'm blipolar. There's no balance.
I will say, I'm very blessed in my biopolar journeys
to be medicative, so I really just get the highs

(47:49):
and know the highs. I'm like putting out ten stories
a day, doing this, doing this, doing this, and then
my loves are just like a regular feeling. So I'm
still able to put out my stories. But balance, no tolerable.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yes, I would say that I like that answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm existing.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Yes, i'ming. That's it.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's just the.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Theme for the Linux four years, right, I'm existing. That's
that's a gift.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Yeah, yeah, I'm alive. I'm here. My daughter's happy and healthy,
my husband's happy and healthy. I'm happy and healthy.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I didn't like him snubbing in for you when you
were sick.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Yes, he did a good He was so nervous. He's like,
great this. I'm like, I have the flu. You could
hear I don't know if you heard of it in
the background of the video. I'm not coughinge my go
requords a video. But yeah, he's he's as I love
him so much.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
He did a great job.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
He did a great job.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
I'll tell so.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
And you kind of talked about this before, but I'm
going to make it personal. With all the things that
you've done and all the things that you continue to do,
how do you disconnect from the doom's day feels of
everyday life, Like what do you do to recharge so
you can continue to deliver up to date information, and
how do you take a break for yourself. This is
such something that we have to ask all of our guests,

(49:23):
especially those who put in work like this, so tell
us how do you do this?

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Absolutely? So community organizing is the outlet that I need
to get that frustration out. And because I'm in a community,
and because we're organizing and we're having protests and we're
having sit ins, and we're having educational events and movie
screenings and fulling meet us, I don't feel so low.
And that's what I'd be trying to sell people. I'm like,
They're like, why don't you feel doom and glow? Because
I community organize because I'm actively fighting against this problem, right,

(49:52):
And because I'm actively fighting against this problem, I don't
feel so bad, Like, yes, things are horrible, but because
I'm with the this group of people, because I'm with
sometimes hundreds of people, thousands of people sometimes and sometimes
it's only a handful of people, and we all feel
the same way, and we're able to talk about it
and we're able to brainstorm solutions about it, it does

(50:13):
not feel that bad. That's why we're telling people you
need to join an organization. If you feel like because
of all the stuff that's happening, join an organization. It's
still going to feel like eh, but you won't feel
so weigh it down. Another thing that I do. I
on Saturdays have been doing less videos, so I really
do take that time to recharge, spend time with my family,
spend time especially with my daughter and my husband. We

(50:36):
go and do an activity where I'm not really on
my phone a lot. So I try to do that
for myself as well, and then I have to bring
it up again therapy every two weeks. Shout out to
Verrika Greyson. I sit in that chair and I sit
there for fifty minutes, and it's just I feel bad
for her because I mean it's fifty minutes every two
weeks where I'm going and I'm working on myself and

(50:58):
then I get massages too. That's nice.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Oh that's smart.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
I swear you're the second person this week. That's like
what when I asked the question, how do you reachart
to like I do more work?

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Like what?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, you know, I love it.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I love it, but I'm just like, man, that was
that was the opposite of what I was doing when
I was sleeping.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I'm like, I quit in a position of a sleep.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
But yeah, but it is it makes me feel better.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
You gotta do what you gotta do, as Okay, and
I have to ask this. This is for me personally.
This is for me just in case TikTok, because I
know we're under a thread again about it being bought out,
being banned, whatever whatnot. If it does go into the abyss,
where can we find you so we can keep supporting
your work outside of TikTok.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Absolutely, I'm on YouTube as well. I post like all
of my segments on YouTube on my podcast too, like
so sometimes I'll post my segments on Spotify, which is
really nice because some people don't want to be on
TikTok and I respect that. So I do podcast daily
Monday through Thursday ish, sometimes on Friday if there's something
super important. But that's where you can find me. Now.

(52:10):
Do I think TikTok is going to be banned? No?
And I did do a story on how the trop
administration said they're going to keep extending it, kicking the
can down the road, kick that can, but keep TikTok
and the app stars and keep it. You know, he
wanted to band it in the first place.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
So that's a story for right, that's yeah, Oh my god.
Some of all these problems were like this started in twenty.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Sixteen, literally like, come on now, but you're just having
people on memories.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Right, I'm tired thinking about it. Well, this has been
such a delightful conversation. Obviously we were thrilled to have
you and your welcome back anytime. But outside of those outlets,
is there anywhere else the good listeners can find you
and support you.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
No, just TikTok and then those other outlets, and you know,
those other outlets go down. I'm going to go back
to the grass question world.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So it's everything under a black belt, babe.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yes, everything's under black belt babe.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Okay, Well, listeners go check out all of that content.
So important, and thank you, thank you, thank you so
much for being here. This was such a delight.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Thank you all so much for having me. I really
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
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You dot com. You can find us on Blue Sky
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always to a super producer pre Senior Executive producer, my
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(53:43):
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