December 13, 2013 • 21 mins
Ben and Matt get a lot of questions, and one that crops up often is this: "Do you ever run into real conspiracies (rather than theories)?" Well, they're finally going to answer it. Tune in to hear the guys explain which conspiracy theories seem the most plausible, which former theories have been proven true and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From UFOs, two ghosts, and government cover ups. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone,
welcome back to stuff they don't want you to know.
My name is Matt Frederick. Hey, Matt, I have a
(00:21):
question for you. Oh hey, sorry, everybody, I'm Ben Bullet. Okay,
I just want to make sure everybody knows who you are, right,
right right? Uh, that was where my manners. It's okay,
jump right into a question with I'm just excited. I
want to hear this answer from you. This is a
question that we have been asked frequently, UM, and I
owe a big thanks to our Twitter and Facebook friend,
(00:44):
uh Juan Gutierres. I hope you're listening here. Uh handle
one hit acquitter. I think it is with two tea s.
I'm not sure anyway, So one has asked us this,
UM and wanted to stay on us about this because
I don't think we ever quite answer bit. Matt. Of
the stuff that we have covered, do you believe that
(01:05):
any of it is quote unquote a real conspiracy? Oh
there's so many. Well, Ben, one of the things that
I really believe in is the New World Order? What like? Okay, okay, okay,
So because it's been mentioned and I'm thinking of it
as more of a plan to globalize the world. Oh okay,
(01:27):
so more of a plan you're talking about the plan
to maybe put all states, all nation states, under the
control of one central authority. Yeah, one, and who knows
how loosely it will be. Just because you know, I've
heard George H. W. Bush use the phrase new world order,
I've heard, uh, you know, tons of people use this phrase,
(01:49):
the new World order, the idea just and it's not
as nefarious as anyone would like to believe, I don't think. Yeah,
I guess it. It depends on who's who's at the helm.
But the problem in lies in getting the way that
you get about to that new world order. I think
there are a lot of nefarious things that happen in
small pockets in order to further that goal. And I
(02:10):
really do believe that that is an overarching goal for
a lot of different groups. Uh do these groups? Would
you say these you believe that these groups collude or
that they compete. I think there are certainly a ton
of competing groups that want to have control, right, That's
the conquering idea of humanity. You want to be in
control of your realm. And if you've decided that your
(02:34):
realm is the entire earth or perhaps even further, then
that's what you try and do. Right. And there are
a lot of ambitious men and women out there, So okay,
so you you believe that they're not only could be,
but that there are multiple groups of people essentially vying
for a global hegemony. I think there are certain groups
(02:57):
that were are perhaps secretive groups. UM. Let's just use
one example of Skull and Bones society, UM, that have
a a certain membership that she has then filtered out
into other large important groups. Say, yeah, okay, they're kind
of a skull and bones, kind of a decayed aristocracy,
fat club. I mean, I'm sure, I mean that's that's
(03:18):
exactly what it is. The qualifications are nepotism, not talent,
and this is absolutely true. But with that nepotism you
have some of those same some of those old goals
of control are still there. I think, Um, I don't know,
this is this is really what I believe, and I
just wanted to be honest with you. Sure, yeah, no,
it's not it's not too far out there. I think,
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um too respond to part of this question. I think
that there's something very clever about using a label to
call something a conspiracy theory. Um. People would hear a
label like new World Order, and our brains UM. Our
brains love labels, right, We love pattern into categories things
(04:01):
like that. So if we hear a label, it gives
our brain UM kind of a diversion or a shortcut
that can stop us from doing the hard, uphill task
of thinking critically about something. Now, of course, it is
true that George H. W. Bush did say there was
a new World order. He was referring specifically to the
(04:21):
order of power in the region in the Middle East
theater I think and Um, of course it's true that
not only nation states, but religions and UH, corporations especially
which I think is the future of governance, would probably
be corporate. UH. These these groups all by for power.
(04:42):
It's not it's not unusual, it's not new, it is
it's true. The part that I would have a problem
believing is I just don't think that many of these
organizations are as um as effective as they would like
to be, as powerful as some people might think they are,
or near as UM unified. I don't like I don't
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think there's one group of people, a small group of
people who meet up once once a year and pick
keepsie or something to run the world. UM. I do
think there are people who run huge chunks of the world,
like the financial sector. But that's just that's a monopoly
more so than a conspiracy. Like it's true you can
look up the bankers. UM. That's why things like Man,
(05:29):
it's just so it sounds so out there when I'm
hearing myself think it, or when I'm talking about like
the Bohemian grove or places where these people from different
groups do get together and just hang out and and
hanging out really is all that it requires, um in
my head, just to share ideas, to maybe give a
(05:50):
little information here and there. Um, do you think that
there's anything wrong with that? It's it's tough for me
that that's tough for me to answer. I it feels
wrong to me, just because there's if you we we
we believe especially in this country, in our democratic UM
our democratic society where all of the people know all
(06:13):
of the things and we make decisions together, right, that's
the idea. UM. That doesn't happen when you have people
at the top colluding like that. Okay, oh good, all right.
So if we're talking about collusion, let me answer a
couple of conspiracy theories that I think are true. Um. Now,
you and I have done this show for how many
years now, It's been since two thousand end of two
(06:36):
thousand eight. So the video we've done the video show.
We're new to the audio stuff. Um. You guys, we
we cover a lot of stuff, but we also run
into so many things that we can't cover for one
reason or another. And I've been chomping at the bit
to talk about a few of these. One thing that
we did talk about was the business plot that I
(06:57):
believe that's a conspiracy theory that do believe the idea
about the UM the automobile manufacturers getting together to kill
the electric car quote unquote or demolish the train systems
UM in the United States. I think that there's something
to it. I think maybe they wanted to just own
(07:20):
the train systems rather than demolish them. Uh, but I
do think there was definitely something to it. They were
found guilty and court of course, and as we point
out in our show, they were fined one dollar, whole,
one whole dollar loudly and slowly for justice. UM. I
also believe that UM some of the well, I believe
(07:46):
that some of the stuff that we've found that again
is often labeled as a conspiracy theory, turns out just
to be true, and that people who might think of
themselves as skeptics, uh, forget that part of what being
skeptical is is not just hearing a label and then
throwing it in, you know, some easily easily categorized your
(08:09):
umbrella style bucket in your mind. You know, you have
to think critically about everything. So I'm rambling a little bit.
But for example, HSBC caught, uh caught running with drug cartels,
laundry money just a big picture of gigantic laundry map,
but instead of clothing, it's millions of dollars of drug money.
(08:30):
And uh would people would say that was a conspiracy
theory or something like that, and like, oh, you're vilifying
bankers and so on, and it's just some guys that
we're doing something that we consider wrong and they got caught. Well,
it's not even I I don't think that it's important
enough for my opinion to matter. It doesn't matter. I
consider it wrong legally, it's that's what we ask. Yeah,
(08:56):
but it's true. And uh, you know another thing that
was haled to conspiracy theory that turned out to be
absolutely true is the n s A spine on everybody
right now in this room. There's probably a phone or
an Internet connection with the mike oh man, I feel
so sorry for Let me just apologize to whatever poor
intern level government agent has been tasked to listen to
(09:19):
our stuff. I mean, we're kidding, of course, because as
we know, and if you know, if you checked out
our show, you know that what the n s A
has been collecting, or what even Brazil's intelligence agencies have
been collecting, is essentially huge archive. They don't have human
eyes and ears on everything, they have sorting algorithms. So
(09:39):
the odds that a government agency might be spine on
our show, however flattering that might be, frankly, are are
very very slim. We are not the big fish in
the pond, but one day we will be the big
fish and you will have to listen to us. Sometimes
we get emails, you guys, from people accusing us of
being an intelligent A agency or asking what's the stuff
(10:03):
they don't want you to know about the stuff. They
don't want you to know, and we I don't want
to spoil anything, but I'm planning a video, a special
vlog where we are going to talk about this stuff
they don't want you to know, doesn't want you to know.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, all right, well, no spoilers. Everybody
acts surprised. So Ben, I don't I hate to ask
you another question to make you talk about, but tell
(10:25):
me what's the most out there conspiracy that you believe
at least fifty fifty two, let's say, in the fifty
to seventy the the absolute most out there just just
shoot shot out there. Um, you know, I'm gonna have
to go kind of a kind of high level. For me,
it's the assassinations or the questionable suicides, you know, I
(10:51):
think JFK or talking okay, well, well just in general
as a maybe as a genre, because I can't recall
the details of some effic once. I don't want to
talk about them too much if I don't know. But
for me, um, you know, when someone commits suicide by
shooting themselves in the back of the head twice and
then tying their arms together or something, or you know,
(11:12):
when someone kills themselves by zipping themselves up into a
Duffel bag after being shot. Uh, those are those are
always questionable to me. And assassinations often come with a M. Well,
there's a huge or of conspiracy, but there's also more
of an opportunity often to prove or disprove the claims. Um. Now,
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you know, whenever public figure dies, whether we're talking Kurt
Cobain or the Pope, people want to have some sort
of more to the story thing. You know, I can't
end here. Yeah, even though even though that's the human condition,
people just die. Um, But we always are finding we
being humans, not you and I are always finding more
(11:54):
information about things that maybe once seemed like they were
put to rest. You've you've probably said recently about Ara
Fat and the polonium traces found on the body, which
means that uh Yasser Arafat was most likely poisoned, and
polonium was also used on the Russian journalist Alexander Litvenko. Right, Um,
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polonium is in the Levenko thing. People pointed the finger
Russia and they said, well, Russia, which means putin essentially
is uh is killing him in retaliation or assassinating him
to stop him from spreading secrets about the oligarchs. But
in this case with yosa Era Fat, people are pointing
(12:37):
the finger at Massa, which is Israel's equivalent of the
CIA or the KGB. And um, we don't you know,
we don't know really who did this. We just know
that people don't usually have polonium in their bodies occurring.
So that's one thing. Um, can I I know I'm
talking so much, man, but can I tell you one
(12:59):
of the ones that I've always wanted to cover? All right,
So this is something that will never cover on our
video series because it concerns a very very disturbing topic.
Oh no, is it child pornography? Yeah, it's the pedophilia rings.
So this Uh so this came to our attention a
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couple of times. We've heard, you know, when people believe
that there's some um dark religious organization or satanic cult
uh involved in kidnappings or disappearances or murders. Uh, the
idea of child abuse of this sort always comes up.
But um, we ran into a story that might be
(13:43):
familiar to some people in Belgium about a pedophilia ring. Um,
I don't have the notes with me. But a guy
gets arrested, uh, and they find out that he had
three h three kids in his basement and then he
does he's like an itinerant worker. He has a handyman,
(14:04):
ers a carpenter or something. He's not making a lot
of money, but he owns three houses, it turns out.
And then he says he's going to get away with
it because he works for powerful people. And uh, he
does get locked up and his wife gets in trouble
as well. There were people claiming that this was a
bigger ring. Someone who was assigned to be a judge
(14:25):
in the case burst into tears, and the news witnesses
would be were disappearing, you know, like the beds were
set on fire with them and them and stuff. And
there was a march of thirty people to protest the
lack of action on this ring. Um, we haven't reported
it because we don't have we're not making a video
about that. I would protest if you asked me to
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do that. I wouldn't. I would protest if you asked
me to do the same thing. But that's something for instance,
that's something I think is um, it has to have
some truth to it. Maybe we can cover it in
depth with an audio episode someday. Yeah, maybe we can.
But I'm gonna toss the question you what is the craziest,
most out there thing that you think could be let's say,
(15:10):
have a grain of truth. Okay, So this is a
little caveat here. I'm I'm not gonna I'm choosing not
to answer that question. I'm gonna be a politician, okay,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna reward the question slightly. I
don't necessarily believe in this, However, I think it is
the best conspiracy theory, most interesting that I have ever heard,
(15:34):
and I I I wish I knew more information about it,
and I wish it was true because it's so fascinating
to me, the Project Blue Beam. I am fascinated by this. Okay, yeah,
all right, so do the gist. Yeah, okay. So this
is this is the one where holographic technology would be
used by some government, probably the US government, to make
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people in different regions of the world, to believe that
the Messiah, their Messiah, whoever it is that they believe
in that region, would come down to Earth and tell
them that there's an alien attack coming. The religions that
you're following are not the true religions. Push everyone towards
a humanitarian strained, humanitarian religion of sorts. Then they would
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stage an alien invasion with the same technology, and everyone
would come together and solidify the human people's the human species.
What's great about that plan is like, you know how
straightforward it is. It's so it's so blue sky, like,
of course it's blue sky. You need it for the holograms,
but the weather, Yeah, exactly. I don't know that. That
(16:46):
to me is so fascinating and so Bondvillian and Villion,
and I like that. I like Bondvillian Villian. Bondvillian is
a great one. Oh I uh, I think that is
in scene. I could I could actually see that kind
of operation being applied in a very local area. You know,
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I could work for cargo cults um in the Pacific,
but I don't. I don't know if we could do
it on a global scale. There's another one. There's one
last one that I want to talk about. I want
to get your opinion. We mentioned this off air, cryptozoology,
all right now, I'm not yeah, I'm not saying that
(17:29):
I believe in, uh, the of some pleasyas were descendant
in Scotland, because I don't and I'm not saying that
I think that sasquatches some sort of extra dimensional time
traveling uh entity, which some people do believe. Um, I
just haven't seen proof for it. I'm still crossing my
(17:50):
fingers that that's the truth about. It'd be cool, man.
He could be here right now and he's just blurry
like that old Miss head Burg joke. But the the
thing that got me is when we looked at our
episode on whether or not they're living dinosaurs and if so,
where they would be. UM, looking at some of this stuff,
(18:10):
what I found was that it's possible that there are large, larger,
undiscovered animals. We don't even know how many species of
animals are there are. I'm not saying that there would
be some fantastic creatures from fiction, like a griffin or
basilisk or minotaur or something, or even a dinosaur. I
think that is kind of it's very difficult to think
(18:33):
that that kind of thing could be alive and undiscovered.
But it's almost certain that there are undiscovered animals out
there somewhere. They probably they probably are just not as
fantastic and cool in Hollywood as we would want to
think they are. It's true, and it is less likely
that they're really large the ones that we haven't discovered, right,
(18:53):
just because of the amount of food they need, the space,
they need, a lot of factors. But I'll, you know,
I'll stay there with you and hold out hope there's
some large undiscovered, say reptilian and or dinosaur. Let's do it. Well,
it's a sort of small dinosaur. Well, you know, the
old joke is always that, uh, dinosaurs never died out
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there around us all the time. They just have feathers now.
So it's true though. Yeah, they evolved, man, yeah everywhere.
And birds are birds are still jerks. So uh, one
and everybody who has written to us about this, I
hope that we have answered your questions here. It turns
out that, uh, Matt, you said you do believe in
(19:38):
a variety of New World order. I do believe that
the business plot happened. I think there was something to
electric cars. I am certain that there was some sort
of legal chicanery going on with child abuse in Belgium.
And uh. Some of these things are things that we
(19:59):
have covered on our show. Some we have yet to cover.
Some we will cover on our audio podcast, Matt I'm
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conspiracy Stuff.
From UFOs, two ghosts, and government cover ups. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone,
welcome back to stuff they don't want you to know.
My name is Matt Frederick. Hey, Matt, I have a
(00:21):
question for you. Oh hey, sorry, everybody, I'm Ben Bullet. Okay,
I just want to make sure everybody knows who you are, right,
right right? Uh, that was where my manners. It's okay,
jump right into a question with I'm just excited. I
want to hear this answer from you. This is a
question that we have been asked frequently, UM, and I
owe a big thanks to our Twitter and Facebook friend,
(00:44):
uh Juan Gutierres. I hope you're listening here. Uh handle
one hit acquitter. I think it is with two tea s.
I'm not sure anyway, So one has asked us this,
UM and wanted to stay on us about this because
I don't think we ever quite answer bit. Matt. Of
the stuff that we have covered, do you believe that
(01:05):
any of it is quote unquote a real conspiracy? Oh
there's so many. Well, Ben, one of the things that
I really believe in is the New World Order? What like? Okay, okay, okay,
So because it's been mentioned and I'm thinking of it
as more of a plan to globalize the world. Oh okay,
(01:27):
so more of a plan you're talking about the plan
to maybe put all states, all nation states, under the
control of one central authority. Yeah, one, and who knows
how loosely it will be. Just because you know, I've
heard George H. W. Bush use the phrase new world order,
I've heard, uh, you know, tons of people use this phrase,
(01:49):
the new World order, the idea just and it's not
as nefarious as anyone would like to believe, I don't think. Yeah,
I guess it. It depends on who's who's at the helm.
But the problem in lies in getting the way that
you get about to that new world order. I think
there are a lot of nefarious things that happen in
small pockets in order to further that goal. And I
(02:10):
really do believe that that is an overarching goal for
a lot of different groups. Uh do these groups? Would
you say these you believe that these groups collude or
that they compete. I think there are certainly a ton
of competing groups that want to have control, right, That's
the conquering idea of humanity. You want to be in
control of your realm. And if you've decided that your
(02:34):
realm is the entire earth or perhaps even further, then
that's what you try and do. Right. And there are
a lot of ambitious men and women out there, So okay,
so you you believe that they're not only could be,
but that there are multiple groups of people essentially vying
for a global hegemony. I think there are certain groups
(02:57):
that were are perhaps secretive groups. UM. Let's just use
one example of Skull and Bones society, UM, that have
a a certain membership that she has then filtered out
into other large important groups. Say, yeah, okay, they're kind
of a skull and bones, kind of a decayed aristocracy,
fat club. I mean, I'm sure, I mean that's that's
(03:18):
exactly what it is. The qualifications are nepotism, not talent,
and this is absolutely true. But with that nepotism you
have some of those same some of those old goals
of control are still there. I think, Um, I don't know,
this is this is really what I believe, and I
just wanted to be honest with you. Sure, yeah, no,
it's not it's not too far out there. I think,
(03:40):
um too respond to part of this question. I think
that there's something very clever about using a label to
call something a conspiracy theory. Um. People would hear a
label like new World Order, and our brains UM. Our
brains love labels, right, We love pattern into categories things
(04:01):
like that. So if we hear a label, it gives
our brain UM kind of a diversion or a shortcut
that can stop us from doing the hard, uphill task
of thinking critically about something. Now, of course, it is
true that George H. W. Bush did say there was
a new World order. He was referring specifically to the
(04:21):
order of power in the region in the Middle East
theater I think and Um, of course it's true that
not only nation states, but religions and UH, corporations especially
which I think is the future of governance, would probably
be corporate. UH. These these groups all by for power.
(04:42):
It's not it's not unusual, it's not new, it is
it's true. The part that I would have a problem
believing is I just don't think that many of these
organizations are as um as effective as they would like
to be, as powerful as some people might think they are,
or near as UM unified. I don't like I don't
(05:06):
think there's one group of people, a small group of
people who meet up once once a year and pick
keepsie or something to run the world. UM. I do
think there are people who run huge chunks of the world,
like the financial sector. But that's just that's a monopoly
more so than a conspiracy. Like it's true you can
look up the bankers. UM. That's why things like Man,
(05:29):
it's just so it sounds so out there when I'm
hearing myself think it, or when I'm talking about like
the Bohemian grove or places where these people from different
groups do get together and just hang out and and
hanging out really is all that it requires, um in
my head, just to share ideas, to maybe give a
(05:50):
little information here and there. Um, do you think that
there's anything wrong with that? It's it's tough for me
that that's tough for me to answer. I it feels
wrong to me, just because there's if you we we
we believe especially in this country, in our democratic UM
our democratic society where all of the people know all
(06:13):
of the things and we make decisions together, right, that's
the idea. UM. That doesn't happen when you have people
at the top colluding like that. Okay, oh good, all right.
So if we're talking about collusion, let me answer a
couple of conspiracy theories that I think are true. Um. Now,
you and I have done this show for how many
years now, It's been since two thousand end of two
(06:36):
thousand eight. So the video we've done the video show.
We're new to the audio stuff. Um. You guys, we
we cover a lot of stuff, but we also run
into so many things that we can't cover for one
reason or another. And I've been chomping at the bit
to talk about a few of these. One thing that
we did talk about was the business plot that I
(06:57):
believe that's a conspiracy theory that do believe the idea
about the UM the automobile manufacturers getting together to kill
the electric car quote unquote or demolish the train systems
UM in the United States. I think that there's something
to it. I think maybe they wanted to just own
(07:20):
the train systems rather than demolish them. Uh, but I
do think there was definitely something to it. They were
found guilty and court of course, and as we point
out in our show, they were fined one dollar, whole,
one whole dollar loudly and slowly for justice. UM. I
also believe that UM some of the well, I believe
(07:46):
that some of the stuff that we've found that again
is often labeled as a conspiracy theory, turns out just
to be true, and that people who might think of
themselves as skeptics, uh, forget that part of what being
skeptical is is not just hearing a label and then
throwing it in, you know, some easily easily categorized your
(08:09):
umbrella style bucket in your mind. You know, you have
to think critically about everything. So I'm rambling a little bit.
But for example, HSBC caught, uh caught running with drug cartels,
laundry money just a big picture of gigantic laundry map,
but instead of clothing, it's millions of dollars of drug money.
(08:30):
And uh would people would say that was a conspiracy
theory or something like that, and like, oh, you're vilifying
bankers and so on, and it's just some guys that
we're doing something that we consider wrong and they got caught. Well,
it's not even I I don't think that it's important
enough for my opinion to matter. It doesn't matter. I
consider it wrong legally, it's that's what we ask. Yeah,
(08:56):
but it's true. And uh, you know another thing that
was haled to conspiracy theory that turned out to be
absolutely true is the n s A spine on everybody
right now in this room. There's probably a phone or
an Internet connection with the mike oh man, I feel
so sorry for Let me just apologize to whatever poor
intern level government agent has been tasked to listen to
(09:19):
our stuff. I mean, we're kidding, of course, because as
we know, and if you know, if you checked out
our show, you know that what the n s A
has been collecting, or what even Brazil's intelligence agencies have
been collecting, is essentially huge archive. They don't have human
eyes and ears on everything, they have sorting algorithms. So
(09:39):
the odds that a government agency might be spine on
our show, however flattering that might be, frankly, are are
very very slim. We are not the big fish in
the pond, but one day we will be the big
fish and you will have to listen to us. Sometimes
we get emails, you guys, from people accusing us of
being an intelligent A agency or asking what's the stuff
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they don't want you to know about the stuff. They
don't want you to know, and we I don't want
to spoil anything, but I'm planning a video, a special
vlog where we are going to talk about this stuff
they don't want you to know, doesn't want you to know.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, all right, well, no spoilers. Everybody
acts surprised. So Ben, I don't I hate to ask
you another question to make you talk about, but tell
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me what's the most out there conspiracy that you believe
at least fifty fifty two, let's say, in the fifty
to seventy the the absolute most out there just just
shoot shot out there. Um, you know, I'm gonna have
to go kind of a kind of high level. For me,
it's the assassinations or the questionable suicides, you know, I
(10:51):
think JFK or talking okay, well, well just in general
as a maybe as a genre, because I can't recall
the details of some effic once. I don't want to
talk about them too much if I don't know. But
for me, um, you know, when someone commits suicide by
shooting themselves in the back of the head twice and
then tying their arms together or something, or you know,
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when someone kills themselves by zipping themselves up into a
Duffel bag after being shot. Uh, those are those are
always questionable to me. And assassinations often come with a M. Well,
there's a huge or of conspiracy, but there's also more
of an opportunity often to prove or disprove the claims. Um. Now,
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you know, whenever public figure dies, whether we're talking Kurt
Cobain or the Pope, people want to have some sort
of more to the story thing. You know, I can't
end here. Yeah, even though even though that's the human condition,
people just die. Um, But we always are finding we
being humans, not you and I are always finding more
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information about things that maybe once seemed like they were
put to rest. You've you've probably said recently about Ara
Fat and the polonium traces found on the body, which
means that uh Yasser Arafat was most likely poisoned, and
polonium was also used on the Russian journalist Alexander Litvenko. Right, Um,
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polonium is in the Levenko thing. People pointed the finger
Russia and they said, well, Russia, which means putin essentially
is uh is killing him in retaliation or assassinating him
to stop him from spreading secrets about the oligarchs. But
in this case with yosa Era Fat, people are pointing
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the finger at Massa, which is Israel's equivalent of the
CIA or the KGB. And um, we don't you know,
we don't know really who did this. We just know
that people don't usually have polonium in their bodies occurring.
So that's one thing. Um, can I I know I'm
talking so much, man, but can I tell you one
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of the ones that I've always wanted to cover? All right,
So this is something that will never cover on our
video series because it concerns a very very disturbing topic.
Oh no, is it child pornography? Yeah, it's the pedophilia rings.
So this Uh so this came to our attention a
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couple of times. We've heard, you know, when people believe
that there's some um dark religious organization or satanic cult
uh involved in kidnappings or disappearances or murders. Uh, the
idea of child abuse of this sort always comes up.
But um, we ran into a story that might be
(13:43):
familiar to some people in Belgium about a pedophilia ring. Um,
I don't have the notes with me. But a guy
gets arrested, uh, and they find out that he had
three h three kids in his basement and then he
does he's like an itinerant worker. He has a handyman,
(14:04):
ers a carpenter or something. He's not making a lot
of money, but he owns three houses, it turns out.
And then he says he's going to get away with
it because he works for powerful people. And uh, he
does get locked up and his wife gets in trouble
as well. There were people claiming that this was a
bigger ring. Someone who was assigned to be a judge
(14:25):
in the case burst into tears, and the news witnesses
would be were disappearing, you know, like the beds were
set on fire with them and them and stuff. And
there was a march of thirty people to protest the
lack of action on this ring. Um, we haven't reported
it because we don't have we're not making a video
about that. I would protest if you asked me to
(14:47):
do that. I wouldn't. I would protest if you asked
me to do the same thing. But that's something for instance,
that's something I think is um, it has to have
some truth to it. Maybe we can cover it in
depth with an audio episode someday. Yeah, maybe we can.
But I'm gonna toss the question you what is the craziest,
most out there thing that you think could be let's say,
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have a grain of truth. Okay, So this is a
little caveat here. I'm I'm not gonna I'm choosing not
to answer that question. I'm gonna be a politician, okay,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna reward the question slightly. I
don't necessarily believe in this, However, I think it is
the best conspiracy theory, most interesting that I have ever heard,
(15:34):
and I I I wish I knew more information about it,
and I wish it was true because it's so fascinating
to me, the Project Blue Beam. I am fascinated by this. Okay, yeah,
all right, so do the gist. Yeah, okay. So this
is this is the one where holographic technology would be
used by some government, probably the US government, to make
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people in different regions of the world, to believe that
the Messiah, their Messiah, whoever it is that they believe
in that region, would come down to Earth and tell
them that there's an alien attack coming. The religions that
you're following are not the true religions. Push everyone towards
a humanitarian strained, humanitarian religion of sorts. Then they would
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stage an alien invasion with the same technology, and everyone
would come together and solidify the human people's the human species.
What's great about that plan is like, you know how
straightforward it is. It's so it's so blue sky, like,
of course it's blue sky. You need it for the holograms,
but the weather, Yeah, exactly. I don't know that. That
(16:46):
to me is so fascinating and so Bondvillian and Villion,
and I like that. I like Bondvillian Villian. Bondvillian is
a great one. Oh I uh, I think that is
in scene. I could I could actually see that kind
of operation being applied in a very local area. You know,
(17:07):
I could work for cargo cults um in the Pacific,
but I don't. I don't know if we could do
it on a global scale. There's another one. There's one
last one that I want to talk about. I want
to get your opinion. We mentioned this off air, cryptozoology,
all right now, I'm not yeah, I'm not saying that
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I believe in, uh, the of some pleasyas were descendant
in Scotland, because I don't and I'm not saying that
I think that sasquatches some sort of extra dimensional time
traveling uh entity, which some people do believe. Um, I
just haven't seen proof for it. I'm still crossing my
(17:50):
fingers that that's the truth about. It'd be cool, man.
He could be here right now and he's just blurry
like that old Miss head Burg joke. But the the
thing that got me is when we looked at our
episode on whether or not they're living dinosaurs and if so,
where they would be. UM, looking at some of this stuff,
(18:10):
what I found was that it's possible that there are large, larger,
undiscovered animals. We don't even know how many species of
animals are there are. I'm not saying that there would
be some fantastic creatures from fiction, like a griffin or
basilisk or minotaur or something, or even a dinosaur. I
think that is kind of it's very difficult to think
(18:33):
that that kind of thing could be alive and undiscovered.
But it's almost certain that there are undiscovered animals out
there somewhere. They probably they probably are just not as
fantastic and cool in Hollywood as we would want to
think they are. It's true, and it is less likely
that they're really large the ones that we haven't discovered, right,
(18:53):
just because of the amount of food they need, the space,
they need, a lot of factors. But I'll, you know,
I'll stay there with you and hold out hope there's
some large undiscovered, say reptilian and or dinosaur. Let's do it. Well,
it's a sort of small dinosaur. Well, you know, the
old joke is always that, uh, dinosaurs never died out
(19:16):
there around us all the time. They just have feathers now.
So it's true though. Yeah, they evolved, man, yeah everywhere.
And birds are birds are still jerks. So uh, one
and everybody who has written to us about this, I
hope that we have answered your questions here. It turns
out that, uh, Matt, you said you do believe in
(19:38):
a variety of New World order. I do believe that
the business plot happened. I think there was something to
electric cars. I am certain that there was some sort
of legal chicanery going on with child abuse in Belgium.
And uh. Some of these things are things that we
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have covered on our show. Some we have yet to cover.
Some we will cover on our audio podcast, Matt I'm
running off of the mouth. Where can people find us? Guys,
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