What is Adrenochrome?

Adrenochrome-- it's a real substance, and one sold openly online to labs with the proper paperwork. It's also mentioned in numerous works of literature, from Huxley's "The Doors of Perception" to Hunter S. Thompson's "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and more. But what exactly is it? Why do people believe it's a sinister, evil drug used by hopelessly addicted elites in the worlds of finance, politics and entertainment? Tune in to learn more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

(00:26):
My name is Matt, my name is Knowledge. They called
me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer
Paul Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. You
are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want
you to know. Folks, we have a lot of interesting
conversations off air, and not all of them make it
on air. But we, like many other folks in the

(00:49):
audience today, have been talking a lot about the effects
of money. We did. We did an episode a few
years back called being wealthy make You a Bad Person
or something? And the science is surprisingly depressing and pretty solid. Uh.
But I think our conclusion was it doesn't necessarily make

(01:11):
you a bad person. It just makes it much easier
for you to become a bad person or behave in
uncool ways. But that's like an open secret. It's not
even a secret that money can make you increasingly disconnected
from the world around you. You get surrounded by opulent things. Uh,
you have a bunch of syncophants and and yes, folks,

(01:33):
and you're able to do whatever you want often without consequences,
and that can make people jaded. The old Ivory Tower situation, Yeah,
it's prety, it applies. I mean, it's literally like you
have the resources to kind of wall yourself in, whether
physically or socially or economically. And then like your old
friends from you know, when you were poor, Uh, they

(01:53):
don't want to hang out with you anymore because you've changed. Yeah,
and you know, as many of our YouTube commenters I've
noticed recently and said out loud, we have that McDonald's
money now, so we get right, Oh, we've got the juice. Uh.
It's also the only point I would expand on there
is that Sadly, another open secret is that the ragster

(02:18):
richest stories are much less common than the media would
have us believe. So often, if you lose touch with
your old friends, they're your old friends from Phillips Exeter
or Harvard business and you're just out of touch. But
you're right, you're right, we do. We have that McDonald's

(02:39):
money now, and we've you know, got like I got
really into faberge eggs and monocles what weird things have
you guys gotten into? Well, I don't know, but you guys,
but I'm really enjoying my golden arches emblazoned Cadillac when
I was gifted by the corporation as we refer to it.
And h yeah, I've been getting mcdonne old pizzas delivered

(03:01):
to me from or whenever it was. They're they're still good,
by the way. Awesome. Yeah, that's what happened to them.
If you want to check out more to learn this,
check out the podcast that we just learned about today,
whatever happened to pizza at McDonald's spoilers Other than that,
there are hundred and seventy seven episodes, so get ready. Uh,

(03:23):
but you're you're right. We as people look for new experiences,
and when you have access to so many experiences so easily,
you get a little jaded. You want new levels of exclusivity.
I don't want to own a parrot anymore. What's the
most endangered illegal bird? I want to own that and
I want to teach it to dance with my tiger. Yes.

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And you know, another important thing is that wealth often
comes over time and with age, and as you're getting older,
you're thinking about a lot of things. One of the
major topics on your mind is self preservation. Right, so,
I I feel like another way to phrase that two
is new escapes, and one of the big escapes is

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an escape from mortality. Uh. So, it's no surprise there's
some very wealthy or very powerful people get into really weird,
esoteric stuff, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's
just stuff that's merely out of the reach for most
of the public. Like you buy a dirigible, you're not
hurting anybody. It's just most people can't buy an airship.

(04:30):
But also likely, let's just say too, when we're talking
about these types of you know, escapes from mortality, Uh,
they could just be really expensive skincare products. They could
just be you know, really really pricey spa vacations, things
like that. Mud baths that the average person couldn't afford.
Doesn't necessarily mean, you know, drinking the blood of virgins

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or children. But today's story is about the dark side
of elite hobbies. It's a tale about shadow we secretive acts,
a new unholy combination, the bleeding edge of modern science
and allegedly ancient rites. You see, folks, you may have
heard recently that there's a hot new drug, or I

(05:15):
should say a hot new drug making the rounds amid
the uppists of the upper crust. It's called a dreen
of chrome. Here are the facts a dreen of chrome.
You may have this. This word might be ringing some bells.
We'll get to that in a sect, but here is
the official story. First things first, it is real. It
is a chemical compound that's produced by the breakdown of

(05:39):
naturally occurring epinefrin or adrenaline. It's created both synthetically um
and in small amounts inside the human body and other
mammals as well. The first synthesis lab creation of epinefrin
was in nineteen o four, and synthetic epineffer and hit
the market in nineteen o six. So to convert the

(06:00):
up an effronto adrena chrome, all you have to do
is allow it to oxidize you. You essentially um manufacture
and oxidization reaction with another compound called silver oxide. So
what what are the effects on humans? Well, there's there's
been some testing, uh quite quite a quite a bit,
but not as much as you may think on this substance.

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And we'll get into the reasons why testing on this
substance isn't widespread. But you can use this stuff in
labs for all kinds of varying research projects. Really, researchers
have found that there are a few uses for it medically.
But again, this isn't It's not like this stuff is
being used all around the world to test for one

(06:45):
specific thing. Yeah, yeah, this is is funny. It reminds
me a little bit of the story of cream of tartar,
which some of us may have in our pantries today. Uh.
Cream of tartar is like a byproduct of wine production.
It's the gunk left over in the barrels of wine,
and it's used for a couple of specific things. Uh.

(07:07):
But but is it considered a staple? You know what
I mean? I would I would argue no for many people. Uh,
dren new chrome is kind of chemically it's kind of
like that, like they know how it's made, they know
the bodies produce it, they know it has maybe a
couple of medical uses, but there's not like it's not
like the silver bullet or miracle cure for something at

(07:31):
this point officially, but wait, so there are also some dangers,
possibly some downsides to humans being exposed to too much
adrenal chrome. Uh. There were some small scale studies back
in the through the fifties to about the seventies. Unlet

(07:53):
I say small, we mean fewer than fifteen test subjects here,
and these studies appeared to show this substance could trigger
some psychotic reactions. They were phrased as like disassociation. There
were two psychiatrists, Abram Hoffer and Humphrey Osmond, back in
the fifties who claimed that adrenal chrome can form in

(08:15):
the brain and may play a role in some specific
mental illnesses. And through these studies they found that a
few fairly common things could actually assist in curing schizophrenia
by the two things vitamin C and niacin. Interesting, right,
two things we've heard of before, Two things that exist

(08:38):
in a lot of energy drinks and scientology treatments. Ye,
it's also like a popular thing to take if you're
trying to purge yourself for a drug test. I've heard
like people take lots of niacin because it makes you
like sweat out the impire. But it's also kind of
questionable as to whether that actually works or not. It
doesn't work anybody who's it doesn't work, find an excuse

(09:00):
to put off the test, give yourself a couple of days.
But but the reason why vitamin C in in nice
and we're important there, or at least the thinking here
in this research was that they would reduce adrenal chrome
levels in the subject. Yeah. They called this the adrenal
chrome hypothesis, which, fun fact, it's also the name of
the math rock album that we were working on in

(09:23):
our spare time. The time signatures are crazy. It's it's
just like three tracks. One is two minutes long, the
other two or forty two minutes long. Honestly, it's it's
it's more laborious than it is fun for me to
try and get some of these time signatures in my drumming.
Ben and I really, you know, I appreciate like what
we're trying to do, right man. Yeah, Yeah. The track

(09:49):
number three was forty two minute ones, which is just
called time signatures. I think we should explore a different
direction there, but at least reduce it by like twelve
minutes or some thing. I don't whoa, hey, whoa, all right,
we'll put a pin in that. We workshop it. But
there's one problem with with this study, even though it's
it sounds pretty interesting right. Later studies tried to reproduce

(10:13):
this megavitem and treatment as a way to address schizophrenia,
and they were not able to confirm any significant benefits,
any positive effects, making it at best maybe a placebo
or implying that there was something off about the methodology
of of the folks behind the hypothesis. Still, it didn't

(10:36):
matter because at the same time, we have other things
happening in Western culture, and this is hugely important. We
have a long, like a long running kind of in
joke in English literature where in multiple authors are using
the phrase adrenal chrome to uh to describe some sort

(11:02):
of some sort of enigmatic drug, like like think about
how if you're familiar with The King and Yellow, the
the entirety of the story of the King and Yellow,
the original anthology is about this play that you can't
read because it will drive you mad, and so adrenal

(11:25):
chrome kind of plays that role here In a lot
of literature, it's described as the the druggist of drugs,
the most hallucinogenic of hallucinogens, right and all this. Huxley
Um actually mentioned this in an essay that he wrote
called The Doors of Perception, which you know, obviously the
band The Doors took their name from, and he refers

(11:46):
to it thusly says, then came the discovery that adrena chrome,
which is a product of the decomposition of adrenaline, can
produce many of the symptoms observed in mescaline intoxication. But
adrena chrome probably occur spontaneously in the human body. In
other words, each one of us may be capable of
manufacturing a chemical minute doses of which are known to

(12:06):
cause profound changes in consciousness. Um, does that? Does that
sound like anything familiar to anyone that we just spoke
about about the way d M T has described by
by many folks. Um, and also noticed there may is
used several times. And yeah, I remember this is Huxley speculating. Yeah,

(12:29):
and let's not forget I mean, like drugs are a
huge part of Huxley's body of work in terms was
it solma I believe in a brave new world that's
sort of like made everybody was sort of the opposite
of what a psychedelic does. Psychedelic supposed to open your
mind and make you think about the greater world, whereas
solma was literally like an anti psychedelic which sort of
closed your mind in and made you falsely, you know, complacent. Yeah,

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And we also have to point out, as far as
every researcher knows, uh, Altice Huxley himself never took a
drain of chrome, which is part of why those maize
are popping up in his essay. Uh. He also in
this work doesn't explore how someone would obtain this substance.
He just says, like from that quotation, it's spontaneously produced

(13:11):
like d MT from the human body. And it just
one last thing to remember here, Huxley is writing about
something that is being tested. There is research going into
this thing. He wrote Doors of Perception in fifty four,
and it's a known quantity, so he's he's pulling from
something that is just beginning to be understood, right, And

(13:32):
then those studies we mentioned before are until the I
think I think it's late fifties, sixties and seventies where
those days occurring. So just remember that, like it's an author,
a brilliant mind grabbing from a piece of science that
is just beginning right with a lot of unanswered questions.
And then we fast forward hunter s Thompson Gonzo journalists.

(13:56):
I think he's a phenomenal writer. He also gives Adreyner
chrome a little bit of a nod. For many people
in the West, either the book Fear and Loathing Las
Vegas or the film is going to be the first
time they may have heard of this substance, unless they
were an older person. It certainly was for me, and
I would love it very much if we could just

(14:16):
like steal a quick clip from the scene in question.
That stuff makes pure mescal and seemed like ginger beer
man A dream of chrome, A dream of chrome. In
the book, the specific quote from the characters Dr Gonzo
is there's only one source for this stuff, the adrenaline

(14:38):
glands from a living human body. It's no good if
you get it out of a corpse. And then there
there are more mentions about this throughout literature, both nonfiction
and fiction. Yep. And just remember there again, I hate
to be the time bandit over here whatever I don't know.
I'm not a time in it, the time master or

(14:59):
whatever that that was written in n So just leaving
that out there. We've jumped now towards the towards actually
the end of those studies that were being done. We mentioned, yeah,
we're jumping around. I have these like, we've got four examples,
and I have them kind of jumping around in time
a little bit. Uh. Part of it was. Part of

(15:21):
it was based on how explicit the mentions were. Oh yeah, no, no, totally,
and that's totally fine. What I'm saying is when we're
thinking about how these authors are writing from where they're
pulling it from, it's just interesting to have that in
the back of your mind. Oh sure, yeah, like in
uh in Doctor's Sleep. That will be another cultural touch

(15:43):
point later on in the show. Uh. We know in
a Clockwork Orange. I believe in the film adaptation as
well as the novel. Uh, there's there's the popular milk
based cocktail Molocco Plus, and it has a just like
a smoothie bar. They've got a couple ladd ons he
can put in, and one of those is called drenn
Crome dream Crum. Uh. You pointed that up in and

(16:06):
that it came flashing back. We got Velasette sent the
Mesque and drend Crumb absolutely clearly a reference to what
we're talking about today, and that that book, by the way,
I don't know if we ever talked about it, but
I think that's one. When it was originally published, they
removed the last chapter of the story, which makes it
completely changes the whole thing anyway anyway, And yeah, whether

(16:28):
the redemptive the redemption arc essentially right, right. So another
book from the seventies ninety three called Legal Highs. There's
a guy named Adam Gottlie. This is nonfiction but very opinionated.
He describes adrenal chrome as physically stimulating. He says it
gives you a feeling of well being, and he implies

(16:51):
there's some disassociation. He says there's a slight reduction in
thought processes. We don't know if he ever took this
substance or if it was just based on here say.
We do want to mention that there are other things
mentioned in that book, like cat nip. I don't know.
If you try catnip once, never do it again. Never again. Yeah,
it certainly does make the creatures of the feline persuasion

(17:12):
go nuts. I heard a thing on in PR the
other day about what it is. It's like almost like Heroin,
like it affects their receptors in a in a similar way.
To like opioids, and there's some study about I'm sorry,
I have to look it up after after we get off,
but uh, there's some new information out there about how
cat and it affects the brains of cats, and you know,
like nothing else. Finally, right, people need to know. Now

(17:36):
you may at this point be saying, Adriana Chrome, this
sounds interesting. I love the authors you named. It's a
shame that I'm not hip enough or enough of the
literati or a scientist to buy it. Well, good news
kind of. You can literally buy this stuff if you

(17:56):
want some. You just hop online. I tried it. Unsuccess.
You tried it to buy it? I tried to buy it. Yeah,
I always try when we do stuff like this, like
when we did transcranial oh TCDs C S, yep tDCS. Uh. Yeah,

(18:17):
it is true. It's it's a chemical compound that is
created in many bio labs. There's one specifically, I think
this is the one. I don't know if this is
when you tried. But there's a place called Santa Cruz Biotechnology.
Is that is that the place you went to? Yes,
that's one of the places. It was a bummer. Okay,
so their prices. I went there because their prices are
pretty cool. Just for just for fifty five bucks US,

(18:41):
you can get twenty five milligrams of a dryno chrome. Unfortunately,
it appears they mainly sell to quote unquote labs quote
unquote qualified medical researchers. I know. Well, it's funny though that,
you know, if you ever heard anybody talk about like
these like research chemicals, right, there are a lot of

(19:05):
lab created analogs to psychedelics UM and methymphetamine and things
like that that are legally obtainable if you have the
right credentials, which you can do, you know, fudge, there
are ways to get it. I've not say I've known
any characters that fooled around and anything like that, but
they are out there. UM and things like to ce

(19:25):
I and two CEB that are these these you know,
synthetic analogs to highly powerful psychedelics and not impossible to
regulate because it's just so easy to make one little analogue. Yeah,
that's legally different and not scheduled. Here's a fun fun
thing that I found here, ben Uh. If you go

(19:46):
to s CBT dot com, which is where the Santa
Cruz Biotechnology, that's their site. Uh. And you you know
you want to add something to your cart like adrenal
chrome uh down below. That's the thing that says you
may also like like like a recommendation of Facebook recommendation

(20:06):
or something down here. You know you've got uh in
in tacapone h toll capone. Uh you zero five to
one that sounds interesting and O right six all kinds
of chemical compounds that you can just add to your
cart and purchase all the hits. Uh. If you have

(20:28):
again a quote unquote lab and or quote well whatever,
I just is standing in the way of progress, folks.
I my penchant for self experimentation. Aside officially from what
we understand, adrenal chrome is it has uses, like Matt
said earlier, but it's not super useful. The main medical

(20:49):
use you'll see is too slow blood loss. It does
this by assisting with the synthesis of these fats that
are called prostagland and that those are the black colliding parts.
And then it can also help with the inhibition of
c O MT. That's that's something that deactivates certain neurotransmitters.

(21:12):
All pretty much like no, we'll say it's not hyperbolic
all of the online sellers that we found noted that
their stuff was synthetic. It's lap created. It's identical to
the stuff that would occur in mammals. Like it's literally
it's not a it's not a hair off, it's literally

(21:33):
the same stuff. What is there phrasing here? There's a
there's a f a Q at the bottom of the
at that scbt dot com and it says is this
is this the naturally occurring type or synthetic? It says.
The response is, thank you for your question. Adrenal chrome
this version is chemically synthesized, meaning created in the lap

(21:57):
by hues. So there's an other question though, this question
hopefully everybody saw it coming. What if people are already
secretly using adrenal chrome for something else. It's weird because, look,
we had that relatively dry, important and factual explanation of
adrena chrome. But when you look at literally the works

(22:19):
of literature versus the works of science, it almost seems
like they're talking about two altogether different substances. So is
the stuff being sold online the same stuff mentioned in
these works of fiction? A lot of people and I
mean a lot of people, guys, uh will tell you

(22:39):
this is not the case. YouTuber Liz Croaken is someone
that you can look up if you want to dive
deeper into this. But the question is this, what if
in opulent mansions, secret compounds, and hidden bunkers all across
the planet, shadowy members of the business community, celebrities, politicians,
decayed aristocrats more are all secretly partying with adrenal chrome

(23:04):
And if so, where do they get it? Well, answer
this question. After a word from our sponsors, here's where
it gets pretty all right, everyone, this is a big
one we're jumping into. We're this is a dive like
swan swan like dive directly into this. Are you ready?

(23:27):
Good form, Matt, good form? Oh? Thanks? Okay. So here
is the idea that you will find spread all across
social media and from YouTube to TikTok to you know, Facebook,
all over the place. This is the this is the
tail uh that the world's upper class, the elite, that

(23:50):
that point one percent of the point one percent uh,
they are using adrenal chrome. This is the this is
the story that's told instead of you know, this weird
compound that can be used for a couple of things.
This thing is some kind of drug that is like

(24:11):
the one that's described by these other authors, but it's
also got something else. Uh, there's there's something else to
it that has to do with staying younger, being um like,
there's a vitality giving aspect to it. The biggest thing
here is that you can't get adrenal chrome, the true kind,
from you know, some lab that's creating it synthetically. You

(24:34):
have to get this stuff from a young person usually,
or or a mammal that's close to humans, like a pig. Yeah,
you gotta get a fresh baked during Illuminati inspired and
or Satanic rituals or you know for some people in
that community that's a six and one hand half a

(24:55):
dozen in the other. But during these rituals, alleged these
adrenal chrome addicts uh subject a person or multiple people
to uh severe levels of trauma and torture, and this
is to force their adrenal glands to produce what will

(25:16):
become the adrenal chrome we we should mention like it's
it's supposed to be a highly addictive psychedelic, which is
weird because we don't know anywhere in scientific literature. Another
example of a highly addictive psychedelic there aren't people out
on the streets like slapping the inside of their elbow
because they need their LSD injection, right. It just they

(25:37):
don't work that way mechanically or chemically. I should say.
It makes me think of like the idea of um
drinking somebody's fear. I don't know if you remember the
episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark with the
creepy doctor character with the beard. I think his name
was Zar do are Dough or something like that, and
he has a little cafe on the woods and he

(25:58):
has the best soup in town. And spoiler alert, Are
You Afraid of the Dark? Turns out it's made by
siphoning people's fear and and and and and creating a
very potent liquor that he then like does a little
drop of and everyone just loves the soup. And we
can keep making references like this because I I'm thinking
about Monsters, Inc. That I've recently watched, because I've got

(26:20):
a five year old where where fear is the power
the power source for an entire world or realm? I
guess sure, yeah? And the and fear is the fear
is the bread and butter of it were also known
as Penny Wise and the Stephen King novel. I mean
and in the military industrial complex. Okay, right, I think

(26:42):
it's a common Um, it's a common trope because it's
a great piece of a story. So the problem is
the people they're torturing allegedly are children because according to
the elites who are into this, uh, they're they're consider
capable of producing more pure high potency adrena chrome. So

(27:05):
for people who believe this theory, uh, this is an
explanation for disappearances of children around the world, as well
as sex trafficking rings. They're also not They're not just
accused of harvesting adrenal glands or harvesting children for adrina chrome.
They're also accused of taking their blood to uh to

(27:29):
elongate their own lives and harvesting organs of course, But
who are these elites. When we say elites, all people's
elites are not the same, right, Like we can agree
maybe the pope and uh some members of royalty, but
not all are elites. But who else? Well, uh, many

(27:50):
of the folks that you hear lumped in with a
lot of these q and on kind of conspiracies. Um
that are you know, allegedly eating babies and hearing their
faces as masks and doing satanic rituals um involving cannibalism
and pedophilia. Folks like Bill and Hillary Clinton. Uh podcast cohorts.

(28:11):
Actually well yeah, well it's interesting. Right. Let's leave that
there for a moment, because in a in a moment
of full disclosure to everyone, as as Noel said, both
Bill and Hillary have podcasts on our network that I
believe have both been announced. I know Hillary's is live,
but Bills went live yesterday. See, so we and we're

(28:31):
doing this episode right now. I'll tell you about this
stuff with these people who are considered the nefarious ones
in this theory. Uh. And at the same time this show,
the three of us have made episodes specifically on Bill
and Hillary Clinton before where we've talked about stuff. Uh.
So just you know, put that out there in case

(28:53):
anybody wants to comment. On the one hand, it's full disclosure,
but on the other hand, it's just it's fast. It's
a fascinating place to find oneself. Yeah. I think the
Hillary Clinton Show is in season two. I want to say,
is that correct? Heading that way? Yes, it's headed that ways.
It's like I think the season one just wrapped. Ah,

(29:14):
there is so this list of celebrities also includes people
like Nicolas Cage, Johnny Depp, Jim Carrey, Ellen degenerous for
some reason, uh, Barack Obama. When the only the only
thing I noticed on this that seems that seems like
a commonality other than wealth is that generally the politicians

(29:38):
accused of doing this are going to be what we
would call on the left side of politics. Right. Did
you guys see any right wing folks excuse to this? No, generally,
That's that's the way it is. Because again, this everything
we're talking about here spawns almost directly from Pizza Gate
and the Hillary Clinton email scandal and like connecting the

(30:00):
several other things you know together, where the adrenal chrome
conspiracy is kind of like a child of some of those,
and I would argue that goes even further back than that.
In this conspiracy lore, we see we see the echoes,
the ripple effects of things like the old blood libel
accusations that were used we'll talk about it later in

(30:22):
the show, that we're used to oppress or justify the
oppression uh, and violence against minorities, and you know, the
the elite are a type of minority. They're just very
privileged minority. But then also again, what's weird about this
list is it feels so arbitrary. It feels like you

(30:43):
could just be picking picking people at random who tend
to be in the news pretty often, you know what
I mean? Uh, the for people who believe this story,
the one of the big things is that the adrenal
chrome addict and will slow signs of aging. Saved four
and I hadn't heard about this, so we started doing research.

(31:05):
Save for apparently bruising that appears around the left eye,
specifically after prolonged use, and you know where that comes from, right,
injecting it into the eye. No, the there's another conspiracy
theory about an initiation ritual dealing with bruising around generally
the left eye that has occurred with many again elite

(31:28):
left leaning politicians and public figures. What was going on
with Mitch McConnell and all his bruising that kind of
came and went for that little period. Well, the story
is it's it's uh speculated to be a medical condition
that it got over. But when he was asked about it,
he said his health was just fine and declined to
explain any photos show it his bruised hands. So not

(31:49):
explaining it, which I totally understand because you're a politician
in this situation. But not explaining it is just feeding treats,
you know, to the conspiracy trick of treaters at this point.
And and the good stuff too, not that not that
orange and black waxy taffy crap? What is that? Are

(32:10):
you talking? Oh, God, like candy corn or the little
weird pumpkins that just tastes like sugary plastic. Yeah, B
level Halloween candy, not notre ago? What a what a
specific insult you, sir? The B level Halloween candy of
our friendship Halloween bag. So uh so you're right, Um,

(32:37):
we we've seen this. One thing I think is important
for us to note here is that a lot of
times when you hear things like this described, you'll see
this in YouTube videos about people being in hip hop
and the illuminati. What what you're seeing the evidence presented
is someone's interpretation of an image, right, like Jeez, he

(33:00):
holds his hand in a specific way in a music video.
This is a dog whistled to the illuminati, says the
true believer, and and I would argue, there's there's something
similar going on here. But the weird thing is this addiction,
if it's an addictive substance, is said to be crippling.
Like the withdrawal symptoms, according to the believers, are way

(33:20):
more intense than things like meth amphetamine or crack cocaine. Like,
it seems like it would be tough to hold down
a functional job if you were an adrenda chroma addict, right,
doesn't It seem like that would be the case unless
you had just a steady supply and you were like
the william S Burrows of adrenna chrome and could just

(33:42):
you know, get your fix readily until you you know,
wither away just from like old age, like he seemed
to have done. Um. It's fascinating that, you know. It
makes me think of like the best fictional trope I
think for drug addicts is the vampire, because the vampire
needs that ready supply of blood. If they don't have it,
they start to waste away and get all pale and fatigued,

(34:05):
and they can't, you know, Like, I think that's the
best stand in for any kind of addiction. And again,
blood libel explanation coming up very very shortly here. Yeah,
it definitely. This is the kind of thing that if
you were to write it as a fictional story, this
would be a great reason for anyone who needs a
g adrenal chrome to go to any length, great lengths

(34:28):
to get another hit, right, because maybe in this narrative,
it maybe that the withdrawal symptoms for the substance are fatal,
you know, because that's something that can really happen with
some substances. Uh, this this is a lot, you know,
but it goes further. How far well, I'll tell you

(34:51):
after a word from our sponsor, We're b okay. So,
as we said earlier, this does tie into things like
the q and On dis info campaign as well as
the the wide panopoly of COVID slash Bill Gates theories.

(35:14):
According to one line of thought, and I was scouting
for like the most out there ones. One line of
thought says, okay, COVID was created by Bill Gates and
the rest of the illuminati as either what a way
to implant people with microchips, which is pretty easy disapproved,
or as a way to create a false flag to

(35:36):
lock down the country, to do raids, black bag people, uh,
execute military operations and have it all passed under the
radar um. And then White Hats, you know, like the
hacker White Hats uh of Death con fame, who are
somehow embedded inside of this system but working against it,

(35:58):
managed to throw a banner into the machinery. They managed
to throw some monkey wrenches in a really weird like
it would be a good movie, That's what I'm gonna say.
It would be an interesting dystopian sci fi movie. Well, yeah,
because there's the YouTuber that we mentioned earlier, Corkin. Uh,

(36:18):
this is a quote from her ready. Uh, they tainted
the elite's adrenal chrome supply with the coronavirus, and that's
why so many members of the elite are getting the coronavirus.
So their supply like they have a communal supply, like
a giant trough of the stuff for a water tower, secretly,
you know, secreted away in some underground cave or bunker.

(36:41):
And how long does it keep? I thought you had
to create harvester and then harvest it, right. I thought
it had a very short shelf life. But but still,
what's the cannon been? What's the canon? A? What's the cannon? Right?
Is nothing sacred. Uh. So this some people have just
heard about this, maybe in twenty nineteen or twenty or something,

(37:04):
but as we've established, this has been around for a while. Uh.
And you may have seen if you if you're a
c Span addict instead of an Adrenna chromaddict, you may
have seen one of the most high high profile examples
of this stuff getting mentioned. CEO of Google was talking
with the House Judiciary Committee in US House Judiciary Committee,

(37:26):
and so when there asked him about a conspiracy called
frazzled Drip, which I had I had not heard of.
Fun fun to say, but when you kind of describe
what it is, it makes you throw up in your
mouth a little bit. The word takes on a whole
new meaning. It reminds me of something like you might,
like refer to a really gross Internet phenomenon by a

(37:47):
seemingly innocuous word, but then when you look it up,
it gives you way more than you signed up for,
you know what I mean? Like goatsy, do not look
that up? Do not look that up? Did you guys
actually look at the Google trending for this, like the
actual graph. I pulled it up and in program thing
where it like shows the prevalence of searches. Yeah, exactly,

(38:11):
And it's it's weird because they're not giving you actual
data here. They're not telling you how many thousand or
million times a term was searched, but they are showing
you a score of zero to one hundred as far
as it's popularity as a term. And right there in
March of twenty note February, right, yeah, March it has

(38:32):
a score of two. So that's from March one to
March seven. Then you jump over to March through the
twenty one it has a score of one hundred, as in,
like this thing is hot fire to be searched for. Well, also,
there were a lot of people digging into these kind

(38:53):
of beliefs because they were restricted at home, you know
what I mean. They were there are normal routines were
knocked as you but uh frazzledrip. Yeah, it's it describes
a graphic, a gross thing. The idea is that somewhere
hidden away on Anthony Weiner's laptop, there is a top

(39:14):
secret video that depicts that depicts Hillary Clinton, former Secretary
of State, Hillary Clinton, and an aid performing a quote
satanic sacrifice in which they slurp a child's blood while
wearing mask carved from the skin of the child's face.
This is this was two people believe this. This was

(39:38):
going to be smoking gun proof of an adrenal chrome harvest.
I just want to note, at the time of this recording,
no tape like that has material, and it is really
quickly to uh. The aid in question was Huma Aberdeen,
who was the wife of Anthony Weiner and he and
who he cheated on, uh with you know his whoever

(39:58):
he did when he said all the you know Weener picks. Um.
So that was a big thing in the news at
the time that he had this compromise this you know,
this laptop with all of those types of images on it,
but also with theoretically or allegedly compromise on other folks. Uh.
So he's like blackmail essentially. The story. Come on, if

(40:19):
this tape existed, I just we we would have a
screen grab. We would It doesn't exist. There's no there's
not not a chance. There are many alleged screen grabs
of that moment of that thing that you can find online.
I would say I've gone through many of them personally,
and there's no identify there's no way to identify the

(40:40):
people that are in these alleged images, and they also
appear to be doctored images of something completely innocuous that
you can also find online. I would also say there
are many depictions of these images that you can make
at home, which is what a ton of people did.
So the shout out the photoshop is all I'm saying there. Um,

(41:02):
So these claims, that's a lot. The idea here is
interesting because there's a bit of double thing involved if
we walk through it. The idea that adrenna chrome is
both a debilitating addictive drug and a miraculous life extending
serum that it can it can kill you through the

(41:22):
you know, the sheer force of the withdrawal symptoms, but
then it can also keep you alive longer than the
average bear. Uh. And then the idea that it only
really does the trick when it's harvested from human bodies.
You can't call it adrenna chrome unless it's withdrawn from
the adrenna chrome region of the human Otherwise it's just

(41:42):
sparkling fear or whatever. You know. Uh. This this book
um by Hunter S. Thompson Fear Loathing in Las Vegas.
Because of that line and that's pretty small line about
the panel glands. People were convinced that's where this stuff
was produced. But the ant there's like way less cool
and third eye oriented. Uh, adrenal chrome is generated by

(42:06):
your adrenal gland that sets on top of the renal glands.
You might recognize the renal glands by their street name,
the kidneys. Yeah, that's that's that's down here. That's low.
That's low, very low in the body, different place. Um,
it's really it's really interesting just that a fiction writer

(42:28):
can you know, plant a concept of something in our
heads or or their readers, I guess, or and just
anyone who consumes their material, no matter what medium it
finds itself in, they can convince them of a complete untruth.
Especially and it's the worst when it's when it's like
actual science or actual science, and we talked about on

(42:50):
the show all the time. That's where there's almost always
that grain of sand or around which the pearl is formed.
So it's just I don't know, it seems dangerous. Way
tell the truth, but tell its slant, you know what
I mean? So okay, but let's dig into this. So
let's let's do some if thens. So all of the
official science so far argues that lab synthesized and naturally

(43:15):
produced adrenal chrome uh, those versions are kind of indistinguishable
in terms of their effects. They do the same things.
It's chemically the same stuff. But let's say it's it
wasn't Let's say it's somehow different that you know, it
somehow matters if you get it from a live human being,
and then you will experience a different effect. Let's think

(43:38):
of it like, let's say it's the way that a
the diet of a bee hive will influence the taste
of honey, or the kind of uh plant matter of
cow eats will influence the taste of the milk. Let's say,
for some reasons like that, how would you get the
adrenna chrome out? We found a really interesting answer from

(43:58):
an expert, by the way, and um, because I was curious.
It was like, you know, is it Is it something
where there's like a little metal straw you stick in
someone's neck, or do you have like a pump or
what what do you do? Well? According to Dr Steve Middleman,
who is a u c l A expert in pediatric
indo chronology, UM, he says he's never seen evidence of

(44:22):
this practice. But if it were to occur, in the
practice being extracting you know this this substance, if it
were to occur, he would kind of be the expert
in how to do it correctly. Uh. And according to him,
it would take a lot of doing. First, you'd have
to do surgery. Like you can't just suck it out,
you know, like you said, Ben, like with a straw.

(44:43):
Remember those orange juice commercials when they stick the straw
straight into the orange. I always thought that seemed really satisfying,
but wouldn't work. You just get you get a straw
full of pulp and no juice. Um. So that would
be kind of the equivalent here on a really rudimentary
level um surgery. A second, you would have to run
through a series of really complex purification steps to actually

(45:06):
separate out the adrena chrome from all the other juice. Uh.
And then even if you had all that and all
the time in the world and the equipment and the expertise, UM,
you probably wouldn't get any more than like half a
milligram per child. So I think we would have a
serious spike in missing children uh cases if this were

(45:31):
actually happening a lot of milk carton kids would be
popping up. UM, don't know that I've seen that in
the news. Well, hey, do you wanna you wanna talk
about that really quickly? We got some stats here from
the FBI twenty nineteen n C I see missing person
in Unidentified Persons statistics. We've talked about this on many shows,

(45:53):
but this I think it's fascinting. I'm gonna hit you
with a bunch of stats just so you get an
understanding of this really quickly. So here we go of
the six hundred and nine thousand, two hundred and seventy
five records entered in uh, let's see this thing called
the missing Person's Circumstances field within. You know, a report

(46:14):
that's generated was utilized two hundred and ninety four thousand times,
which is about forty percent when it was utilized. UM,
two hundred and eighty thousand of those were coded as runaways,
two thousand, four hundred as abducted by non custodial parents,

(46:35):
and three hundred twenty two as abducted by stranger. Okay,
so how many metograms are we talking about here, Matt? Well,
I mean that that wouldn't be many right, rebel, Who
knows because that's just the official Well, yeah you would,
but that's the official reporting. And who knows how many
of those abducted by strangers would have anything to do

(46:56):
with that? You couldn't, you know, how could you ever
quantify that? Um? Also, yeah, how many of those runaways
then would fit in there? Uh, these stats aren't really helpful.
I'm just trying to show that there were around three
hundred thousand missing persons in well that we know that
we and again I'm not trying to be a jerk here,

(47:17):
but like, how many milligrams of this stuff would it
take theoretically to you know, to experience the effects? Uncertain?
There hasn't been. Ah, the people believe that this is happening.
I haven't had specificity in that regard. Um we do.
I do. I did find records of people who said

(47:41):
that they took adrenal chrome and the people who said,
you know, I did it. I have firsthand experience with it.
The reports are kind of hilarious in like it's funny
because you're okay kind of way, if that makes sense.
They're like, I felt like crap, these terrible headaches I
it and hallucinate anything unless I was hallucinating the headaches,

(48:03):
which I was not. They seemed very unimpressed with their
dreader chrome experience. But look, if you're not getting enough,
if you're not getting your milligrams for whatever dose you
need from humans, then why would you not get something
like the adrenal glands of a cow available at your

(48:24):
local butcher's store? You know what I mean? Even a
grocery store can probably order them for you if you
ask in advance. Man, that's just way less evil, wouldn't
It wouldn't have the same ummmy of of of the
avoid you know. Yeah, it's just sparkling wine, not champagne, right,
fish row not caviare uh? Can I? Um no? Maybe not.

(48:47):
I was going to read something from one of these
websites where we found this, you know, conspiracy theory to
be out there. I don't want to go to political
with it, but I just I want to read the
note that's at the very bottom. This is a website
that is describing what we've told you here about the
theory around adrenal chrome and the elites and taking it
from children. This is the disclaimer at the end says,

(49:12):
please note the author of this article would like to
remain anonymous for she escaped one of these rituals many
years ago. But after thorough investigating, we find these statements
to be very much true in all caps. Um. I
just want to put that out there before we talk
about the next thing. I think that's the one I sent.

(49:32):
I was like, this is a fun one. Yes, okay,
so really quickly, and I'm sorry I'm hung up on this,
but I just wanted to point out that LSD and
highly potent psychedelics are usually measured in micrograms, not milligrams.
So one microgram is point o one milligrams, So presumably
a milligram of this stuff, if it's as potent as

(49:53):
LSD or some of these other substances, would pack quite
a Whileop. There we go. Yeah, well, let's let's look
at proof. If proof exists. Uh, it's possible that there's
a cultural exchange that took place, which I think is
really interesting. Uh. Adrenna chrome's current conspiratorial status could have

(50:14):
come from hippies and beat nicks. I mean, it's an
objectively cool sounding word. It also has nothing to do
with the element chromium, by the way. Uh, people may
have just been using that as like a cool code
word for LSD, and then the actual real adrenna chrome
got wrapped up in the narrative. I mean, Hunry s. Thompson,
even publicly multiple times, is like, look, I made up

(50:39):
the effects of that adrenda chrome drug. I just really
needed a drug that was beyond the pale. And you know,
I was writing fiction and in the film and the book,
I mean, the effects are really just like a super
super potent dose of LSD. Yeah, and I would pause it.
It sounds more like d m T, like the actual

(51:00):
thing of d MT that Hunters Thompson was writing about.
And also, you know, if you're writing fiction, you're always
looking for cool words literally, you know. Uh So there's
a bigger picture here. There may there may be, I
don't know. I don't think we can trace it back
to just one thing. But we see multiple threads converging,

(51:22):
and we see this story kind of weaving in and
out of them. This is not a new story. Yeah,
it goes back to pizza Gate. It's a repackaged version
of these older accusations in the past. As we said,
we're used to rile up communities to take action against
persecuted minorities. One thing that's different in this case is
that the subjects of the of the conspiracy theory are

(51:47):
some of the world's most powerful people. They're the opposite
of persecuted. But the tropes and the folklore are largely
familiar and unchanged. One thing has change age, though it's
a very important thing. The technology at play. Well. As
we said, money plus age equals putting money that you

(52:10):
have into your research into figuring out how to not
die or make life a little better in your seventies
or sixties or however old and wealthy you are. Because
there are researchers all around the world that are getting
money startups that are you know, coming through adventure capital
money to find ways to extend the human lifespan and
to make it just a better experience to be older. Um.

(52:33):
We we talked about this in an older episode about months.
I think we called it modern vampiresm or something around that. Yeah,
we we talked about this very real thing that got
pretty popular in twenty in a few years around that span,
where people were talking about specifically taking young blood from

(52:57):
a subjective years old and doing transfusions with an older
person and then somehow that older person getting all kinds
of benefits, like a fountain of youth kind of situation
through sharing blood with a younger person. And this is
a thing called parabiosis. It's fascinating. The concept has been

(53:18):
around since the eighteen hundreds, this technique where you take
an old subject a young subject and then connect the
two circulatory systems together. Um, yeah, it's real, it's real, right,
mat you said since the eighteen hundreds, Yes, would they
have known about blood type in those days? Ha ha, Well,

(53:39):
this is a really important thing. In many of these studies.
You're dealing with inbred subjects, subjects that are ridiculously close genetically.
Um so, then sharing blood for those two subjects wouldn't
be a big deal. However, if you tried it with
just some random twenty year old and whoever you are,
the odds it's not gonna work out so great. We'd

(54:02):
have to there's there's a purification process. You need the
plasma right now, just the straight up blood. Also, we
know the the FDA originally said to two of the
startups who are selling this kind of this idea, we
also called longer life through younger blood. Uh. The FDA
was quick to say they had not found any efficacy

(54:24):
to these claims. But you can't depending it's all about
what they say this is doing, because ultimately, if two
people can sensually decide they're gonna give each other they're
gonna give each other blood, then there's not a law
that can really stop them. It's still your blood, which
is one of the weirdest things I've said on air.
But but there's ongoing research into this. You know, just

(54:48):
last year, University of California, Berkeley uh decided this practice
was decided this practice was led it enough in mice
that there it's worth finalizing clinical trials for humans. So
they're going to be doing this study on this. It's

(55:09):
not quite all the same stuff. They're diluting blood as well.
It's it's pretty interesting. We'll see, we'll see where it goes.
I do want to point something out here really quickly,
and there were successful parabiosis studies in mice in gosh,
I want to say, twenty two five maybe by this

(55:29):
this couple at u C. Berkeley, and one of the
main takeaways from their studies was that, yes, the older
mouse who is sharing that circulatory system with the younger
mouse does improve in a lot of ways, the health
of the older mouse gets a lot better, and that
was kind of paraded around on the news as oh
my god, this is a thing, this could be a thing.

(55:50):
We can fix Bolzheimer's and getting old. What the reporting
didn't look at is that the younger mouse in that scenario,
the health deteriorated very quickly, rapidly and terribly. And that's
that's in the case where they're so together, not where
there's just a one way donation route. And you know,

(56:11):
we're again so many of these things tie into like
vampirism and pop culture and you know, the some sort
of malevolent sorcerer sucking the life force out of you know,
some unsuspecting hero of the story. And what always happened
in those situations, the person who's having their life force
sucked out withers away and becomes old and starts to

(56:32):
like atrophy before your very eyes. You know, it's interesting
stuff when you see you know, some of these like
fantasy kind of tropes actually play out in real life experiments.
And there's no at this point, there's no confirmed cases
of human experimentation ongoing like with modern technology in this field. Uh,

(56:54):
just to let you know, because I know a lot
of us might have been thinking about human sent up
no judgment, but just hasn't to our knowledge, happened currently.
Did somebody did somebody go matt scientists or serial killer
and so people together in the past. Yeah, definitely, there
are billions of people who have lived and died. Someone
got weird with it, certainly, but in terms of an

(57:15):
actual medical study doing this at this point, uh, it's
not happening. There are other things. There are other anti
aging things that are very real and they're on the horizon.
Substances like nico tenamide rabbicide, which is the active ingredient
in a pill made by an outfit called Elysium, and

(57:38):
then another thing called nicotinamide mon nucleotide. This is also
an m N They've been shown to improve the ability
of cells in mice to repair DNA damage caused by
radiation exposure and wait for old age. So this is

(58:02):
this is a like a pill you could take, a
treatment you could apply that could not only help you
extend the healthy part of your life span, but it
could also repair damage that had been done to you
a k a. A new astronaut pill. That's what I'm
thinking that seems like the immediate application. Oh yeah, for sure,

(58:23):
that would be great. And there's also I think it's gosh,
six years ago maybe, but there was a TED talk
given by this guy named Tony oh lord, what was
his name, Tony Weiss Kay where he was performing clinical
studies on humans at with with patients who had mild
to moderate Alzheimer's disease or effects of of that disease,

(58:47):
and they were just taking I think it was twenty
year old donors who are volunteers, taking their blood and
then uh, you know, doing I guess low level transfused
with them. Um, you can watch that Ted talk to
get full info there. It's a good it's a good watch.
And I just can't we can't talk about parabiosis without

(59:10):
this image of Monty Burns jumping into my head and
he's like steepling his fingers and he's going like, yes,
the blood, that's the last thing those children have or something,
you know what I mean. Like it seems very culture
clash Boomer v Millennial or gen z. Now, the blood
the last thing those wretched millennials have stolen through me

(59:35):
from me by possessing it will work on the script.
But there you have it, folks. The story of adrenal
chrome is the story of a real substance given a
very first a badass and then a very sinister rep
by various works of fiction and works of conjecture, and
then those were later mistaken for fat whereas Rudgard Kipling

(59:57):
would say in his famous poem, if twisted knaves to
make a trap for fools. But more importantly, that does
not mean elite anti aging treatments don't exist. That does
not mean they are not on the way. They very
much are. Uh. The first person who is functionally immortal
may have already been born. But it's a question what

(01:00:19):
do you think would happen if a pill or some
ongoing life extending technology or treatment existed. Do you think
the average person would have access to it? Do you
think they know about it? Well, it's it's the same
question of this COVID vaccine, you know, and like who
gets that first? It's all about scarcity. Obviously most people
would want that, right is it going to be too

(01:00:41):
expensive for the average of The COVID vaccine is free,
but we know there are elites that are getting access
to it through their secret clinics, and they're you know,
high end healthcare plans, probably isn't following the rules, right, Yeah,
who's that guy who faked uh an identity? Who's quite
well off? You faked any to fly to Canada to

(01:01:03):
to take vaccines to try to get vaccinated at a
place that was primarily catering to elderly and immunocompromised residents
of the First Nations. Like that's that's the kind of
stuff that happens. That's an excellent example. No, all, I
would not be surprised if that's instructive for this. But why,

(01:01:24):
I don't know. I mean, why not why not just
up end the apple cart of society and may and
and pull like a pull like a Louis pasteur uh
or a Jenner with the smallpox vaccine and just give
it to everybody before before anyone can put up gates

(01:01:44):
or barriers to access. And then see what the world's
like in two hundred years, We'll we'll all be tired
of you, That's what I'm saying, Ben. And let's not forget.
I mean, do we even have the resources or the
infrastructure to support enough people living that many people living forever?
We don't. We don't have a support structure it like
for everyone right now? Yeah, that's it's It's not good, guys.

(01:02:05):
We have the potential for that support structure. We just
have a lot of people arguing about about whether or
not we like, there is enough food for everybody right now,
there's enough water. We just have people arguing about whether
or not people everybody should have or everybody should have food.
Uh so we're still on some very basic day one questions.

(01:02:27):
But I don't know it or not right now. But
you're making the most serious cringe face. Okay, that was
just you cringing. It looked like because I'm I'm thinking
about all kinds of things, especially like what soil is
actually going to be able to be used, and you know,
the phosphates. It's all good, We're fine, everything's cool. Everything's

(01:02:48):
what about what about this? What if the deal is
you can get the life extending treatment. Let's say it's
not immortality. Let's say it gives you five years. You
can get the life extending treatment, but you also have
to get sterilized. Oh so like that's the trade off?
Would that be fair? I think a lot of people
would do that. I think a lot of people would

(01:03:09):
have kids first, and then go get stereo atmatically to
be some loophole. Does that work out? I don't know. No,
not over time you have to live. It have to
be shorter than five years for the man. But but
let's not forget you could still die in an accident.
I mean, this wouldn't like, you know, give you a
complete like pass against death. You just wouldn't die from

(01:03:29):
natural causes. Still get hit by a bus. You know.
It wouldn't make you invisible. I think it comes with
a safe point. I mean, at that price point, you're
you're you're going to need at least one safe point
so you can restore respawn situation. Yeah. That would be
in the form of a backup of your personality, of
brain map that exists, a brain brain protein map that

(01:03:51):
exists in the cloud or on some probably on some database,
and a safe somewhere, uh spaceship in the sky called Elysium.
Wasn't that the name of the company that you were
just talking about, Ben Okay, hand of film. I know
I know about the films. What I'm saying. Uh Yeah,
So that's our show, folks, Thanks so much for listening.
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think that's trademarks somewhere. But yeah, we're getting about the

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I'm no, I'm not giving mine out today, but I
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