Alice Roosevelt

The eldest daughter of Theodore Roosevelt was a firebrand who never shied away from the public eye. She was nicknamed "the Second Washington Monument" because of her social power, which she parlayed into political influence.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from works
dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm a
Holly Fry and I'm Tracy B. Wilson. And today's show
is going to feature a topic that's been requested by
quite a few listeners. Most recently it was requested by

(00:22):
listener Rachel, and not too far back, it was requested
by listener Lindsay And to kind of set it up, so,
being the child of a president means that you are
kind of constantly in the spotlight, even if you don't
want to be. You're scrutinized by the press and judged
by the public, and some kids kind of struggle to
keep their noses clean. But the focus of today's episode
did not bother with that. She's kind of a wild

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child from the moment she stepped into the White House
in nineteen o one. Alice Roosevelt, who's who we're going
to be talking about, could have given any modern famous kid,
whether they're a presidential kid or just a child star,
a run for their money in the wild behavior department,
and she was completely unapologetic about it for her entire life.
Uh For example, she kept an embroidered pillow in her

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home with one of Tracy's favorite sayings embroidered on it,
which is attributed to her having said it, which is,
if you can't say something good about someone, sit right
here next to me. I actually did not know that
that could be attributed into her. I have always attributed
it to Steel Magnolia's It has often been, at least
in the two biographies I looked at, and in several

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other pieces it is. And one of the things with
Alice is that a lot of what you're getting is
stories that were retold by family members and friends. So
it's possible that she didn't say it initially, but she
certainly everyone credits her with that one. She was nicknamed
the second Washington Monument because she managed to amass quite

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a bit of social power in the US capital, and
she parlayed that into some political influence. And how much
so is still a bit of debate how much influence
she really had politically, but she certainly was very close
to power for her entire life. Uh, And so we
will talk about that life and how she maybe used
that power. Alice was born to Theodore Roosevelt and Alice

(02:15):
Hathaway Lee Roosevelt on February twelfth, four and most people
know sort of about the tragedy that happened in this family. UH.
Just two days later, on February, Alice's father, Theodore Roosevelt,
ran home from his work as an assemblyman in the
New York State Legislature UH to their house at fifty

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seven Street because grave news had come. His mother, Martha
Bullock Roosevelt, who was known as Middy, had died of
typhoid fever. On top of that tragedy, only a few
hours later, Roosevelt's wife, Alice also died of Bright's disease.
This is a kidney condition that's characterized by high concentrations
of protein in the yurine. She'd been living with Bright's

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disease for quite some time, but her pregnancy had complicated
the condition and weakened her overall level of health. UH.
And as you can imagine, that double loss. To lose
a parent and your spouse within about four hours really
devastated Roosevelt, who was only twenty five at the time,

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and he wanted, quite plainly, to escape all reminders of
this loss. He even went so far as to forbid
the mention of his wife, Alice's name and his grief
continued to burden him, and by the end of eighteen
eighty four he had decided to kind of pare down
his involvement in Politech politics and to go west for
a while. So he moved out to the Dakota Territories,

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and he had spent time there before. Uh. We can
talk about that if we do a Teddy Roosevelt episode.
And he established Elkhorn Ranch there for a life that
he wanted to kind of live in isolation of ranching.
He also worked as a sheriff, and he did not
take the infant Alice with him, who was usually called
Baby Lee, presumably because the name Alice, which was her

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given name, caused Roosevelt so much pain, so he left
Baby Lee in New York. She stayed with Roosevelt's sister Anna,
who was called Baby and eventually Alice called her Anti by.
He wasn't totally absent as a father, though there were
several times during the next two years where his work
brought him back east and he would spend time with

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the baby during these trips, but Baby was her primary
parent during this period of Baby Lee's life. UH. In
June of eighty six, Alice's father was ready to resume
life in New York. The home that he had contracted
to be built just after his wife's death was completed
uh and he resumed his role as Alice's father full

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time as they moved into their Oyster Bay, Long Island house.
In December of eighteen eighty six, Theodore Roosevelt remarried, and
his new bride was Edith Carroll, who had been his
childhoods sweetheart. Edith and Teddy would have five children together.
Roosevelt ran for vice president on the ticket with William

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McKinley in eight The pair was reelected for a second term,
but then on September six of nineteen o one, McKinley
was shot by anarchist Leon Leon chol Goosh at the
Pan American Exposition in Buffalo, New York, and eight days
later the president died from his wounds, and Roosevelt, having
been vice president, became president. When the Roosevelts moved into

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the White House in one Alice was seventeen, and she
pretty much immediately became a celebrity. She was known for
her wild antics and rebellious behavior. She was a party
girl to arrival any celebrity today, and she had started
to appear in gossip magazines back when she was sixteen.
She basically stayed there for her father's entire time in office. Yeah.

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One uh biographer made a comment that all Edith and
Teddy needed to do to know what Alice had been
up to the night before was to open the morning
paper because her antics were such uh great drawers of
readers that papers would put them on the front page,
even sometimes pushing out much bigger and more important news.

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Alice smoked, which you know, for a young lady, not
not so delightful, and when her father forbid her to
do so under his roof, she just moved that habit outside,
and so she would start sitting on the White House
roof to enjoy cigarettes. She also played poker, and she
bet on horses. She was sort of famously photographed placing
a bed at one point. She would ride in cars

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with men without chaperones. She wore pants on occasion, which
of course was very unladylike at that time, and she
would raise her own car through the streets of Washington.
She would also barge in on meetings at the White House,
seemingly with causing trouble as the only reason for Having
done that, she claimed to be a pagan to fly
in the face of her very religious stepmother. She called

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Christianity voodoo to kind of rile her up. She had
a pet snake named Emily Spinitch that she carried around
the house with her and even some parties. There are
some accounts that say it was a Boa constrictor, but
others say it was a garter snake. I can hardly
imagine two less similar snakes. Yeah, the snake story is

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one that um it gets told again because there are
often biographers used firsthand accounts from friends and relatives. Anybody
knows that, like even in your social group, there are
stories that have grown out of, you know, their original proportions,
and so we really don't have a sense of the
snake situation and what the realities were of it. Some

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will say she showed up at one party with a
huge Boa constrictor on her neck. Others say she carried
this snake in her pocket all the time. And when
I was relaying this to some friends last night while
we were talking about it, they thought, like the way
a child will pick up a weird animal and put
it in their pocket. I'm like, no, No, she was
like eighteen and nineteen. At this point, it was just
car geting around a snake for entertainment. Um, the press

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dubbed her Princess Alice. So her favorite color, for example,
was a grayish blue, and that became very, very trendy.
It was called Alice blue. She basically, you know, was
a celebrity icon at this point. And her father, the President,
is often quoted as saying, I can either run the
country or I can attend to Alice, but I cannot

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possibly do both. A friend of the family once said
that she was quote like a young wild animal that
had been put into good clothes. Uh. And in nineteen
o five, so several years into their time at the
White House, she served as a goodwill ambassador, traveling to
Asia with a group of congressmen. And this was the

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first time a first daughter had taken on such a duty.
And this trip, which was dubbed the Imperial Cruise. Uh,
it's entirely likely that President Roosevelt really looked at this
mission as a way to keep his troublesome eldest daughter
out of his hair for a little while. I feel
like that's a sitcom waiting to happen. Uh. And We're

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going to get into the deal details of that trip
because some wacky things happened there. But before we do,
do you want to pause for a word from a sponsor.
Let's do that. So on this goodwill tour, Alice traveled
with a large group. There was Secretary of War William
Howard Taft, twenty three Congressmen, and seven senators. Alice made

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headlines everywhere she went, in part because of her wild behavior,
which continued on the road. She set off firecrackers on
the train on the first leg of the trip from
Washington to San Francisco. She fired her pistol from the
train as well, aiming as telegraph poles as they passed them. Yeah.
I read one account that suggested that she kind of
wrote it off as well, It's the fourth of July,

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so that is how I'm celebrating. But a light firecrackers
inside a train, just that seems foolish, Alice, don't do it, uh,
And as well as the welcoming gaze of the press,
because they really did just follow her everywhere. She also
caught the eye of Representative Nicholas Longworth of Cincinnati. Taft
was apparently beside himself trying to serve as a chaperone

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and keep Alice in this representative apart because this man
was fifteen years her senior. But eventually Taft just gave
up and was like, I can't control this situation. The
following year, Alice actually married Longworth, who was a notoriously
womanizing drinker, and their ceremony was very lavish. It was
at the White House, and it was front page news.

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This wedding took place on February sev six, and for
Alice it represented a break for freedom. She no longer
had to live with her stepmother, and according to the
account of biographer Stacy Cordry, when Edith said farewell to
Alice after the wedding, her parting words were, I want
you to know I'm glad to see you leave. You
have never been anything but trouble. So after a honeymoon

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in Cuba, Alice and Nicholas settled into married life together,
and while it was not exactly the conventional romantic dream marriage,
it sort of worked for the two of them. Um,
they weren't really in love so much as they were
comfortable with one another. Presumably they were drawn together because
they were both sort of these big, extreme partying personalities. Uh,
and they both remained the people that they were before

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they said their vows. So there was some headbutting. There
were some wild times, and there was some infidelity on
both sides of that equation. When her father's time in
the White House ended in nine, Alice allegedly buried a
voodoo doll of the new First Lady, Nellie Taft in
the lawn before the new president moved in. For that,
and also for her very public criticism of the Tafts,

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Alice was banned from the White House where their tenure there. Yes, yeah,
there were several times She's not welcome in the White House. Um.
A few years later, the long Worth marriage would really
be tested when Teddy Roosevelt went toe to toe with
Taft in a political battle. The bigger issue for Alice
than Nicholas's extramarital dalliances was that her husband supported William

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Taft in the nineteen twelve campaign against her father's newly
formed Progressive Bull Moose Party. She had actually advised her
father against this move, but she remained stalwart lee loyal
to him even when he disregarded her advice, and she
also opted to appear in her husband's home district of
Cincinnati with Hiram Johnson, her father's vice presidential running mate,

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instead of with her husband on his campaign, and long
Worth lost that election, which Alice sometimes took credit for, uh,
even though he did end up getting reelected a couple
of years later. But Alice and Nicholas did manage to
survive the upheaval. Their marriage did through through that sort
of disastrous and very rocky nineteen twelve election cycle. Their

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marriage remained intact, although politically it was pretty distant at
that point. They weren't sort of of the same mind
in any way. To add insult to injury. Then I
venteen twelve presidential election went through Democrat Woodrow Wilson do
in part to this split in the loyalties of the
Republican Party between Taft and Roosevelt. So just as Alice
had been vocally critical of Taft, she also vocally criticized Wilson,

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and in some ways even more so. She was once
again banned from the White House after publicly making coarse
comments about the president. Not so long after this, Uh,
Teddy Roosevelt died in his sleep. It was in January.
On January six, and nineteen nineteen, and he was sixty
at this point, and he had a coronary embolism. And

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at that point, Wilson had already proposed the League of
Nations in his nineteen eighteen speech before Congress as part
of his fourteen Points plan. Roosevelt had hated that, and
in turn, so did Alice, because she pretty much always
followed her father's political leanings, and she rallied very hard
against the US becoming a member of the League of

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Nations after her father died, and that the League did
formally form in Geneva, Switzerland. In so, Teddy's eldest daughter
basically used every single scrap of influence she had to
sway politicians in Washington, d c. Against the idea of
joining the League, and whether it was her efforts or not,
the US never became a member. During the nineteen twenties,

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Alice started an affair with the chair of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, that was Senator William Bora of Idaho.
The two of them bonded over their shared admiration of
her late father and their love of literature. She and
the Senator would send letters to one another and they
were deeply in love. As their affair became less and
less of a secret. Alice was dubbed Aurora Bora Alice

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by the press and gossip circles, and in Alice's husband,
Nicholas Longworth, became speaker of the house, and that same
year they also welcomed their one and only child, Paulina,
into the world, and Longworth was completely excited about this
may be and doted on her, even though the odds
are that the infant was in fact fathered by Alice's

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paramour Bora, and that Nicholas actually knew that um. In
a bitter sweet sort of coincidence, Paulina was born on
February fourteenth, which of course is Valentine's Day, but was
also the same day that Alice's mother and grandmother had
died many years prior. Also in ninety five, Alice and
Nicholas moved into their home at two thousand nine Massachusetts

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Avenue Northwest, which is just west of DuPont Circle. Alice
would live there for the rest of her life, and
the house, which was built in eighty one, would serve
as a home base for the first Daughter's many famed
social events that she would host for the next six decades.
Uh in one, Alice's husband, Nicholas Longworth, died and unfortunately

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he didn't really leave much behind in terms of finances
for his widow. His family money was almost entirely gone,
and while her lover, William Bara lived another nine years,
it does an appear that he really helped his mistress
out financially. Two years after her husband's death, Alice published
her memoirs Crowded Hours in an effort to make some money.

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And this was also the year that Franklin Delano Roosevelt
took office. So just in case you don't know the scoop,
some people think that he was much closer, much more
closely related to Teddy Roosevelt than he actually was. Uh.
Theodore Roosevelt and FDR only distant related. They were fourth
cousins once removed. I've also seen them listed as fifth cousin, So, uh,

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your command of genealogy and how that works may affect
your perception of that. Um. FDR's wife, Eleanor, however, was
actually much more closely related to the former president because
Theoter Roosevelt had been her uncle. Alice was really pretty
cutting when it came to Franklin and Eleanor. She once
described Franklin Delanor Roosevelt as one third Sap and two

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thirds Eleanor. Alice apparently would do unflattering imitations of Eleanor
at tea part. I think we recently got a request
for us to do in a whole episode about the
Eleanor Alice feud. We did, and it's uh. I debated
over it as we were prepping this, and really at

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the end of the day that just boils down to
um a lot of descriptions of kind of petty arguments.
So that isn't the best for a whole episode, but
there were a lot of arguments and a lot of nitpicking.
It was one of those things where like they would
gossip to friends about one another and kind of circulate
really insulting things. Uh, you know, it was a pretty

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catty situation. Uh In Alice and her half brother collaborated
as editors on a book of poetry, and that same
year she put the house on Massachusetts Avenue on the market,
although it never sold. Her social engagements became the Invite
in Washington, and Alice was pretty open about her opinions,

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both political and social, and she kind of used all
of her social events as as opportunities to broadcast these
opinions to really the elite of Washington. She also licensed
her image for use in advertisements for products like cigarettes
and cold cream, and she did all of this to
try to support herself and Paulina. As we are sort
of nearing the end of Alice's life, let's first pause

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for a word from one of our sponsors, and now
I'll get back to our story. So Alice did continue
to make political friends throughout her entire life. That really
was sort of her circle. So she always knew uh
kind of many people in power, and she eventually became
close friends with Richard Nixon when he was serving as
vice president, and then when Nixon became president, he would

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often invite Alice, who usually went by Mrs L to
the White House. He even hosted her eighty seventh birthday
party there. So even though she had been banned for
a couple of different presidencies, she was allowed back in eventually,
but her close friendship with Nixon did not survive the
Watergate scandal. Alice sort of distanced herself from Nixon, and

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when asked about it, she would claim that the whole thing,
meaning that whole scandal, had become quote boring. She also
became close with the Kennedy family, despite their Democratic affiliation,
and in spite of her lifeline position as a Republican,
Alice supported the Democratic Party in nineteen sixty four. In
nineteen sixty eight. I wonder how much of that had

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to do with like the shifting ideologies of the parties
at that point. Uh, not an insignificant amount. Uh. You know,
she was not a woman who sort of just blindly
went down party line. She really was pretty thoughtful about
her positions. She would get sort of so adamant and

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passionate about them that you might think that she had
lost sight of the forest for the trees in some cases.
But I think she really did, you know, welcome the
ideas of other people. She liked to have political discourse,
So I'm sure when someone made a case for a
situation that she thought was certainly sensible and made sense
to her, she didn't necessarily see it as changing sides

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so much as No, I'm still going on with my convictions.
They just happened to align with these people at the moment. Uh.
Another tragedy struck in ninety seven when Alice's daughter, Paulina
died from a combination of sleeping pills and alcohol uh
sometimes referred to as a purposeful overdose, sometimes couched in

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slightly more nebulous terms. But Pullina did leave behind a daughter,
Joanna Storm, and Alice actually raised her granddaughter after Pullina's death.
As the years were on, that house outside of the
DuPont's circle grew shabby and cluttered, but it really didn't
seem to concern the aging first daughter so much. She

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let the yard go over and the house filled up
with papers. She started spending the majority of her time
on the third floor with her book and a well
stocked refrigerator for snacks during reading breaks. And it does
sound a little like gray gardens. But she did not
go completely broke. Yeah, and she still had servants. She

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had made a rule that the servants weren't allowed to
stay at the house because she didn't like being awakened early.
One story goes that the servants would arrive at eleven
and she would usually tell them to go away and
she would go back to sleep until one o'clock in
the afternoon. Um. But yeah, she wasn't like isolated without people. Um.
But Mrs l did start to lose her mental edge eventually,

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but her granddaughter Joanna visited frequently. They stayed close, and
Joanna also sort of started this effort to make sure
that Alice's friends were stopping by and that Alice wasn't
like a lonely old lady in a crumbling house. She
really wanted her to stay social. Alice died in night,
a week after her birthday, at the age of nine
six in accordance with her wishes. She had a very

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quiet burial, and she had outlived all of her half
siblings from her father's second marriage. Yeah, it's kind of
one of those interesting things. You usually expect the wild
party child to burn out much earlier than the rest
of the family, but she just kept on going and
she was a spitfire the whole time. Um In her memoirs, Alice,

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who very obviously to everyone loved and admired her father,
was pretty open though that she struggled with some resentments
with him, particularly about his move west after her mother died.
She really felt that he had kind of abandoned her
as an infant, and she also admitted that she had
been really jealous and angry at having to vie for
his attention to compete with his second wife once he

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did come back to New York and then their five children, Like,
she just felt like she never got to have her
father to herself. She wrote in her diary while she
lived at the White House, quote, father doesn't care for me,
that is to say, one eighth as much as he
does for the other children. I pray for a fortune.
I care for nothing except to amuse myself elf in

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a charmingly expensive way. Yeah. It sort of reads like
such a classic psychological study of like a child that
acts out for attention. Um and sort of, you know,
her feelings of being ignored and unwanted kind of lead
to that behavior that really informed her entire life. Uh.
But one of the things that I really love about

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Alice is that she is as quotable as can be.
What really made her standouts throughout all of her years
were her amazing quips, some of which were very catty
and some of which were just sort of wonderfully witty.
So I thought to close out, we would cover a
few favorites. Uh, do you want to tell the first one? Yeah?
So Jo McCarthy tried to call her by her first name,

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and she said no, Senator McCarthy. You are not going
to call me Alice. The truckman, the trashman, and the
policeman on the black may call me Alice, but you
may not. I sort of love that. Uh. The one
that I really love her quote is that she once said,
my specialty is detached malevolence. Her her life philosophy was

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bhil what's empty, empty, what's full, and scratch where it itches.
It seems like very sensible advice. We um she reminds
me a bit of of Edna st Vincent Malaya and
and we actually got a letter after our episode on
Edna Say Vincent l A from somebody who was kind

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of chagrined that we had talked about her shenanigans in
a gleeful way, whereas if if she had been a man,
we would not have talked about it in a gleeful way.
And like there was a whole aspect of it. It
had to do with her being expelled from school and
allowed back in because she was a celebrity, which is
not totally germane to this episode. But I think part

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of that is that, uh, when when Alice was behaving
this way, she was challenging the status quo and men
doing similar things were maintaining the status quo. So that
is why when women quote misbehave sometimes we sound quite
gleeful about it. But I love anybody that's a spitfire. Um,

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But I can totally see as well how she was
just a pain in the neck, Like I can't can
you imagine if a modern president, like if we heard
a story of like President Bush's twins when he was
in office or President Obama's girls just jamming themselves into meetings,
like we would never hear the end of it in

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the press, and how horrifying it was. But Alice did
this stuff and somehow people just loved her so much
that they thought it was hilarious. It's like, oh, she
interrupted another important meeting in the White House, like who
would do that? Well, making her a good Will ambassador
is one of those things where I'm like, what were
are you thinking? That really sounds like she's just gonna

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pants the ambassador from China and then runaway giggling, and
that would just be horrible for intergec affairs. Yeah, so
in that regard, it might be good. Am I do
this with the question mark, I'm not actually saying this
is a good thing. But her having taken up with
long Worth, with this man who was much older, and
kind of having that little adventure on that trip may

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have saved some embarrassments. Yeah she was occupied and could
not pant somebody. But yeah, she I could see where
she would be a lot to deal with. And it
is interesting. One of the articles that I read for
this was actually written by a biographer of hers, but
it was contextualizing it, uh in sort of looking at

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modern president's children and how there is to some degree
this this unspoken rule of like you leave the kids
out of it and you don't really focus on them. Uh.
But that like, remember when President Obama's children, I don't
remember which of the girls it was like rolled her
eyes at some event and people were all in a
twitter about it, and she's like, are you kidding me?

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Do you know what Alice Roosevelt did? She's like, if
a thirteen year old girl rolls her eyes, like, you
consider yourself lucky on that one, because it could be
like it was in the early nineteen hundreds, which is
just sort of a funny way to catch it. But
now I have listener mail and I'm doing a thing
that I always feel bad I don't do more of

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which is that I just want to call out some
of our listeners who write us actual physical mail, and
some of them one of the things I love is
that we have listeners who travel the world, and some
of them will write us multiple letters or postcards from
their various travels. So I wanted to talk about two
of those. UM. One is the first is Becky, and
Becky lives in Spain, but she travels all over and

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she sends us these amazing postcards. One is a postcard
that is a British poster from the Second World War
about sort of uh, you know, being frugal, and it says,
go through your wardrobe, make do and men and it's
a woman with her wardrobe finding what close command rather
than having to consume resources by buying new clothes. Uh.

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And then in another one, she we just got this one.
She sent an image of um, the northern lights uh
in Iceland, and she went to try to see them,
but it did not work out. She instead saw lots
of snow and clouds. But she also got to try
what she calls fermented shark fin and alcoholic fish juice.
Actually I have no idea what it was, but that's

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what it smelled like. So she is now back home
in Spain. But thank you so much, Becky for sending
us these postcards. It's like a nice vicarious trip around
Europe with you, so we appreciate those. Another listener who
has sent us multiple postcards is our listeners Zoe, and
she uh sent us a beautiful large black and white

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image of Schloss nuchfon Stein, which is you know, the
mad King Ludwig Castle, which is gorgeous. And then another
one that is a small portion of Madame de Pompadour
port the famous Madame de Pompadour portrait that she went
to uh Munich to visit museums, and she particularly went

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to the museum to see this portrait and that part
of the museum was closed and she was very dismayed.
And then she found out when she was in the
gift shop making a purchase, the ladies that worked there
told her that actually that that particular painting had been
moved across the street during the remodel. So she raced
over to another museum and got to see it after all. Hooray,
So thank you Zoe for sending both of those. Again,

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I get to go to museums vicariously and I love it. Uh.
And the third little bit that we have is from
our listener Tabitha, and she sent us a card from
the Herschel Carousel Factory Museum in New York, and she says,
just in case you're ever vacationing in the area, I
do recommend stopping by the Herschel Museum in New York.
Several of our listeners is in aside, I should say
have mentioned this museum and how amazing it is. Uh.

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They have a history exhibit about Herschel's animals and they
do restoration work there. You can actually see the whole process.
That's what I would love to see. Best of all
all they have an old carousel set to the older
faster adult thrill rides feed. Each of the horses has
either been restored or is on the to do list
for restoration. The whole building is full of beautiful pieces
and art history. Uh. Thank you. That's an awesome I

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