Endless Shrimp or Private Equity? ScarJo vs ChatGPT 05.22.24

In episode 1680, Jack and Miles are joined by author of Grasping at This Planet Just to Believe, Taz Ahmed, to discuss… Endless Shrimp or Private Equity? ScarJo Has Lawyered Up--OpenAI Acting Dumb, Jesse Watters Mocks “Rage Rituals” Trend... Immediately Gets Owned By Guest and more!

1. Endless Shrimp or Private Equity?
2. ScarJo Has Lawyered Up--OpenAI Acting Dumb
3. Sam Altman's "Human, in person, fantastic experiences" Clip
4. Jesse Watters Mocks “Rage Rituals” Trend... Immediately Gets Owned By Guest
5. ‘Rage rituals’ are the latest wellness trend among women

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
No, it's the one between two Eyes on Me to
me against the world, against the world. There it is.
Was that ninety four? I feel like that was like
ninety four was right before. No, It's like that shit
came out right before all Eyes on Me. That's when
people were like, is this guy okay? It was ninety
five or something or March ninety five. Yeah, yeah, And
by then I had a shitty enough little mustache that

(00:28):
I was able to buy that album. One Tupac, Sir,
one Tupac for me? Would you like one as well? Brian?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, yes, two PACs of me and my pal, my
college roommate over here. This is my colleague in my
colleague would like two tupacs four pops if you will.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's a joke we make down at the market. Dose.
I'd rather do tupac. Yes, that's French. We're world travelers.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, thirty nine,
Episode three of der Daily's Like I Say production of

(01:11):
I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday,
May twenty second, twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Guess what for all the people who wanted to burn
sometime on that computer lab computer library computer. It's National
Solitaire Day and the image seems to be like the
Windows stock version of Solitaire, which shout out to like
the tropical fish cards.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I feel like I always like to do the card
on that mode anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's also Emergency Medical Services for Children Day, National Vanilla
Pudding Day, National Bio Musical Instrument Day, in National Merit
Time Day, shout out to boats.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And shit, shout out the boats and sit. Yeah, do
they have like an update to the Solitaire game? People
playing more high tech like three D graphics Solitaire. I
don't know, you see the flip of the card man?
I don't Yeah, would you would? I? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, it's I feel like they do. They do nominal
upgrades to it.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
But I haven't been like on a PC and then
been like I'm gonna play Solitaire in maybe ten years.
So most Solitaire ever played work in the front desk
at a health club, like a fitness club. Just yeah,
Solitaire for.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Days, because it was like for a while, like that
was just like the one way you could get away
with doing some other shit like at a job or something.
Like you got a computer and You're like, do you
either have ski free Solitaire or Mine Sweeper or that kind.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Of shit, and you would just Mine Sweeper a Solitaire,
And then I was like, man, this is rough. Anyways,
my name's Jack O'Brien aka every pass you take and
every move you make, every time you take masturbation breaks
your car watches as you. Oh, can't you see your

(03:05):
car smells your d I don't know. I don't know
how they do it. I don't know how they're doing
how they know about our sexual activity. That one is
courtesy of Macaroni on the discord. Yeah, our cars know
about our sexual activity. I'm coming up with my best

(03:25):
guess on that one. That that was an addition for
me that I I think it must be smelling smelling
you to be like, oh yeah this guy. Oh, it's
like I just if the seats like I gave you,
if the seats can air conditioned, then I guess it
could reverse the function and a cool air they can

(03:46):
probably inhale some too. Yeah, well some musty air. Glad
Glad my car doesn't have that feature on it. I'm
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles Gray Miles Gray here.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Akay, look it's a showgun win Noogun the Lord of
Lancersham currently watching Gojira Godzilla minus one. I've watched it
two and a half times now.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Right now, well we're watching it right now. Bro. Wow
that she came out of nowhere again. I'm sorry every time,
every every single God anyway, I'm distracted, I'm distracted. But anyway, yes,
thank you for having me. I'm i am here, I
am hey man anytime, not watching God's uh myles. We

(04:32):
are thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again,
been way too long by a brilliant and talented political
strategy of storyteller artist who writes and has performed her
poetry on stages everywhere, including the White House. Please welcome
test I'm.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Good to have you, good to have you.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
To be clear that way, it wasn't like this White House.
It wasn't the last White House. It was like Obama's White.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
House, you know, yeah, yeah, it was Obama was white
yeah yeaheah, it was. It was Trump, right, big Trump,
big Trump then yeah, and he in turn big fan
of poetry, so it makes sense, my Muslim poet yeah, yeah, yeah,
I love invite my favorite Muslim poet Lauriates to the elector.

(05:20):
And now has I met his movie? The biopic is
getting getting some heat over in con Yeah, that's like
a big movie.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Wait, there's a Trump biopigrum.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, with Jeremy Strong playing what's his name? Yeah, and
then Jeremy Strong playing Trump, Jeremy Strong playing Trump's like mentor,
although that would be kind of surreal to see the
Jeremy Strong version like just you know him being uh,
you know, succession boy. Then just saying like yeah that's

(05:52):
Donald Trump. That's fine, we'll run with that. I'd rock
with that. And then like, what isn't it one of
the guys who is like producing it is like a
huge Trump don't owner? And now he's like trying to
threaten it by being like, I didn't know you were
going to make that kind of movie is going to
be like a glowing portrait. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah?
Dan Snyder furious about it, it says billionaire Trump daughter

(06:14):
Dan Snyder reportedly furious after watching Trump film he funded
tried to block its release. That's wonderful, is that? Dan Snyder,
who used to watch footballers yeah, yeah, wow, amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Who would have thought someone who was resisting the name
change of the most racist one of those racist team names.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Ever, it was like, I think we're gonna want to
keep it. Yeah, I think let's keep let's keep that. Man.
My goodness, what's new with you anything.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I have a poetry book that just came out at
this planet, just to believe.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Grasping at this planet, just to believe. Ah, hover looks beautiful.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Thanks. We've been writing poetry for a long time, kind
of like on the side of everything I do in
my life. And this one is a collection of poems
I wrote over the course of Ramadan, which is the
holy month for Muslims, and so I would write poems
every day. I had a group. We had like a
group of seventy people. Oh wow, And this is a
collection of poems written over ten years, which I'm really

(07:14):
excited about. I'm excited to have it out in the world.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Wait, seventy people writing poems together, poetry to Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
The book is the book is just my poems. But
we had seventy people writing daily poems.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah. I know a lot of writers who are Because
Hollywood has stopped employing writers since the strike. Basically, I
know a lot of writers who are like getting into writers'
groups and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh my god, it's the only way I can write.
I have a writer's group I meet with, Like, I
have a writer's group every day of the week. In
ADHD world, is called body doubling, where you need to
see another body working so that you can be inspired
to work.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh shit, yeah that say that again. I'm just yeah,
I'm really coming to terms with the fact that like
I don't, like, I really have bad add that I'm
this is.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
It's why, like the only projects I've been able to
get off the ground are ones where I have like
someone that I've like been working on it with.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, Like I'm co host. We do a show every day.
Oh my god, Jack, this is this is But every
time I don't record, every time I don't record the show,
I don't I don't bathe I could barely eat. I
track everything, and then I'm right back into it when
I'm like, oh, Jack's eating too, Okay, I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna do that. Yeah, yeah, I have a real

(08:39):
uh what's that? What's that show with Adam Scott Severance? Yeah,
I have a real severance thing where I just come
to and I'm recording this show and then when I
don't go away and don't remember anything, and they're like,
how was work, And You're like, I think, think good good, Yeah, let.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Me press play and find out.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Shit. Well, congratulations on the book. We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we are going to tell the listeners a couple of
things we're talking about today. We have an update, So
Red Lobster did officially file for bankruptcy. The New York
Times wrote a very like poetic like sort of oh
bit for the company. But we have a little bit

(09:23):
more on what was going on. It seems like there
was some chickanery happening behind the scenes. You will not
be surprised to learn, I think we mentioned this before,
but that they were bought by private equity in twenty fourteen.
So yeah, the clock just started taking in twenty fourteen. Basically, yeah,

(09:44):
we're gonna talk. Scott Johansson has lawyered up because because
of open Aye's assistant basically sounding exactly like Scarlett Johansson
to the degree that they like did this massive launch
and then had to like take it back down. So
we're just going to talk about that. There is president
for people like there's a lot of Internet legal experts,

(10:05):
which is where I get all my legal advice, of course, Yeah,
who are like, you can't copyright a voice, so Sam
Altman is fine, leave him alone. The same people who
are like, just just mail yourself a copy of your
script and it's copywritten. Yeah, exactly, oh is it? But
it turns out that's not the whole truth. We'll talk
about Jesse Waters mocking rage rituals on his show and

(10:30):
getting owned by guests, just the rhythm of the Jesse
Waters show, which is just I'm starting to think he
has like a humiliation fetish. But we'll talk about it.
Something he's a sad guy, all of that plenty more.
But first has we like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history?

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Okay, I got on the Bridgerton bandwagon. I googled did
banks exist in eighteen thirteen?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
BECAUSEY talking about the one sister who's rocking the band.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, that one sister has like the really long bangs,
and I was like, this looks like a ninety, you know,
like a twenty twenty bang.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
So then I googled, and then then I went down
this like rabbit hole of learning about hair during the
regency era. Right, So I guess they did have bangs.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh they did.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
I just I just didn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah. Yeah, there are some paintings they're just like, not
the famous one, but it was their name? Is it Eloise?
Who got the banks?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well like this that one sister had like really long
banks And I was like, because the first one in
season one she had that short, weird short like Audrey
Hepburn type bangs.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Uh huh yeah Eloise Elois got yeahs yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
It was like did they have banks?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
When did bangs start?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I don't know that's what.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Is that? Something you can google? When did the When
did bangs start? I'm looking up portrait de la trie
Jean Samari by Renoir. It's a portrait painted in eighteen
seventy seven, and she's working with bangs. She looks great
banks by the way.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Oh yeah, girls always get banks and they like break
up with guys. So I feel like.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah forever, Yeah, I gotta gotta try to bang out.
Also there's I mean, well Caesar, right, isn't the Caesar
a very banged male haircut in a way. Yeah, like
bangs bands the front, that's all. Yeah, yeah, it's a Caesar.
All hands on deck to the front of the class.
This is this is an interesting page. That's just like

(12:31):
ancient ages bangs and it's got some like Egyptian Oh yeah,
the Egyptians were rocking bangs fourteen nineties to the fifteen hundreds.
Bangs had a little bit of a moment of course,
was rocking bangs, R bangs around totally.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Bang's been around.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, I like those doo though in my mind also,
I'm like the bank It's so funny because looking at
that character. I'm watching this new season too, and it
feels like it's it's like a it's like a wig bang,
you know what I mean, like bangs, like it's part
of the hair piece. So like yeah, sometimes it has
like different like levels of body to it. And I'm like,
mister playing with these fake bangs. And then I was like,
is were there is this allowed?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Were I keep googling?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I've been watching this whole season just like well, like
the last season there was like an Indian character, so
it was like did people from India go to England
and I was like, duh, of course we were calling
nice by them, so that makes sense right right. I
was googling. I don't know if you saw Caught in
this last season, there was like a rotating band. The
band was rotating in the center of the dance floor.

(13:38):
Oh no, you know, like a pedestal. Yeah, And I
was like, how did that happen? Did they do that?
I don't know everything every episode I googled something.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, was there like a little mouse doing like a
powering a wheel that was making it rotate?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I was like, they
didn't have electricity.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, well, I mean that's the thing where like obviously
they take liberties, especially with like race relations. There are
some Irish people underground, just like shoveling cold working the fellows, Yeah, exactly.
Did you watch Queen Charlotte though, That's like the closest
one where they reckon with like the post racial kind

(14:17):
of vibes of the show. And I was like, oh,
because every yeah, the other ones always Charlotte. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
I was like googling her. Then I found like all
these old pictures of paintings of her and what she
was supposed to look like. And apparently she wasn't as
gorgeous as they make her out to be in the
real in this TV show.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
And neither was King George.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
No.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, this whole the whole series. Have been googling a lot.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Realizing like, maybe I'm not watching it for the historical
accuracy at all.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh this is picture, this is made. I've got it.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, I love it, love it, love it, love it.
What is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Okay, underrated for my type of people? I went to
bass Pro Shop yesterday.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh yeah, shop, I love yo. You nailed it by
like I think, not my thing but bass. But yeah,
unless that's unless there. Yeah, like you're like, yeah, had
to put fifteen's in my in my Honda, you know
what I mean, putting a new sound system in there
to put some Subwolf first base. I went to bass
pro Shop. You know we do it. Okay, So a

(15:20):
bass pro shop and what would you say? We're there?

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Well, I'm going camping this weekend, so I needed a
sleeping bag. But you know you're in there, there's like
stuffed bears, there's geese flying, you can there's a whole
aisle for beef jerky. Yeah, there's every kind of cooler
you what, I don't know. I was really impressed. Yeah,
I was impressed.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
What got you the most the beef jerky aisle.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
The beef jerky isle was very intensive because there was
like I didn't realize there was so much equipment involved
with jerking beef and you could get a gun with
you put seasoning in and shoot your meat.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't know, I spent a lot of gun to beef.
They also have sleeping bags that come out of a gun. Yeah,
they have pillows shoot out of a baska.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
A mosquito gun where you like shoot it with a gun.
I was like, how are you going to shoot a mosquito.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
With a gun? What is it? What comes out of its?
Probably the salt one probably right, like the bug blaster
that they use for flies, so you know things like this. Yeah,
because there's like the one used with flies and you
basically fill it up with salt and the little gran
granules of salt act is like buckshot to just like
blow their wings apart and render them useless or dead. Yeah,
it's really cool, really high tech stuff, really high tech stuff.

(16:37):
You've never been to a vast pro shop I've just
driven past them on the outside, but they do look
like magical places.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Oh you should go, You'll spend hours and hours.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
We were just talking about how they like a racist
gun collection, like some of the Yeah, yeah, like gun collections.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I was gonna say the first time I went, I
was like, oh my god, brown girl going into the store,
that I'm going to get like harassed. But you know
it was fine.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, wait where you or are you going? Are you
doing a desert camp? Are you doing a forest camp?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
We're going to.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
San luc on the I think, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know. I have a group of camping friends, so
like we go camping, Like during the pandemic, we were
going camping every other month, so I had like have gear.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah what happened You didn't have a sleeping bag already?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Oh I did. I wanted a better one.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh so you're leveling up, You're okay, okay, I forget that. Yeah,
you weren't using the one with the orange one that
had Michael Jordan printed on the front like all the
kids had in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
And I also got it like leveled up in the lantern.
I got a headlamp this time.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, I gotta get a headlamp, huge interchangeable lenses. I
think you want to go to red to red lights.
So it's yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Got one of those.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay, okay, okay, I know i'd see the coyote, but
they can't see you. That's sort of So is is
beach camping like even colder? That was a question that
I had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god, so cold.
The night is so cold, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
We used to do that in high school, go down
to Leo Correo Beach and get like because I was
like the one place where like as kids were like, yo,
you can go down.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
As a kid and get so drunk and smoke weed
all and no one gives a fuck. And that was
my first four ray into beach camping, was being so underprepared,
but just to be like, well it's a place to
drink alcohol without adults around, so we will camp. That's fun. Yeah, well,
good luck with your camping. Good luck? Did you did
you make out? Did you come away? Are you the
type of shopper who goes in, gets the thing and

(18:39):
can get make it out of there without picking up
extra like impulse bies? I bought a bear horn?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
What am I going to do with a bear horn?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Corn? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I was like, do I buy a bear spray or
do I buy a bear horn? I mean I didn't
even need I don't even know if there's bears at
this camp, I'm probably fine.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, I don't know about each bear camping, but yeah,
why not?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I was the bear.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'll tell you. They're like, you know, you know what
you're gonna need.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
No, I have told myself to myself.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like that. I was like, you, like, an, I got
bear spray, No, you need a bear horn? So what
that shit is just so loud that it just will
put a bear off and they will retreat.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I don't know, I like was stearing at the aisle
items for a very long time?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Or is it the other most powerful thing I could
imagine where it calls bears to you, like an army
of bears.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Oh right, and you're just supposed to play dead, right,
Like one of them you're supposed to play dead, the
other one you're supposed to run as fast as you can,
which I can never tell which one it is, because
like black bears and brown bears like kind of like.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I was just about to say, well, I think it's
like whichever one starts with a bee is like make
yourself big, except they bust start with a bee.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
So yeah, it says if you counter a grizzy, but
do not play dead. Stand your ground, don't turn your
back and run. Speak firmly. That's what the grizzly. It said,
do not play dead with a with a grizzly, stand
your ground. Yeah. So just like act, I think you
just got to get lookro we're not about to be
disseminating bear survival information. We should have doctor ray Wing.

(20:19):
Except out here someone's be Like I was listening to
the Daily like guys and they said start playing Kendrick
Lamar not like us and seawalk and the bear will
turn no again. I was like trying to come up
with the new monic. I was like, grizzly bear, give
him a scare, but that also works for black bear.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
So like I gotta come up with if the bear
is black, lie on your back.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
There it is okay. These are not right. These are
not run around go to town. Wait, aren't you a
scout leader? Shouldn't you be kind of known? Like I'm
a Scout leader for kindergarteners. Man, they're not gonna remember
any of this ship.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
No gonna remember. Yeah, if there's a bear there, if
you're going.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
To remember for the rest of that, they said the
only time he said. Playing dead may work if you're
being attacked by a mother grizzly defending her cups, but
is the wrong thing to do if you're being attacked
by predatory bear.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Are you a mother? And are you
I'm just trying to get some context as to what
this interaction is before I decide what my strategy will
be here. Yeah, but if you're if they're hungry, they'd
be fine with you just playing dead, well they you, Yeah, yeah,
this is nice. Actually, but bear smart dot com in

(21:32):
their myths section told me to do this. Bearsmart dot com. Yeah,
that was the first one Google served me. Again, I'm
not sure if this is even useful, That's what I said.
This is Yeah, this is not bear information we're giving up.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I mean, I'm sure I'll be fine on this camping trip.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
It'll just be like the It'll just be like you know,
because like beach campers also have like a vibe too.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I feel like the people who you know, beach camp
like it's it's more the humans you want to keep
your eye on than like the wildlife.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
right back, and we're back. That's actually that's the thing, right,
the bear versus man thing, where it's like which one

(22:25):
should you be more afraid of? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
The question that's being asked of all women right now
is like, if you go into the forest, would you
rather be stuck with a bear or a man?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
A man? Right?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah? Bear?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah? Is it a mother grizzly
who wants to protect her cut? Right, because that's actually
the situation I want to be in because I'm very
lazy and I just want to play that right and
then stop, it's not even fair? All right? Uh So,
updating the sorry about Red Lobster declaring for bankruptcy. They

(23:04):
have officially done it. Wait, what was the overrated again?
Amark tripping overrated?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Oh? I didn't do overrated?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh, I just wrote San Luis Obispo because you had
mentioned that next year overrated for no reason. Oh oh
oh oh yeah yeah, I think no, I fucked up, Tess.
What is something you think is overrated? Oh?

Speaker 4 (23:23):
My god, I want to say democracy interesting. I want
to say I'm not democracy itself. I want to say
this election cycle and getting these stupid texts from the
Democratic Party that are like, time is crunched, don't you
want to donate to us? And then I respond with

(23:44):
what about the genocide? And then no one responds to
my text.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, they're like, you were asking about democracy and you're like, no, okay,
yeah we got another we're asking about the genocide. I
got another one that was like have you given up
on Joe Biden? You're like, and they just don't give
up on me, babe. Yeah, they're still doing that shit

(24:10):
where they like, are they're using the this rhetoric. This
has happened so many times.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
And my mom also has given my number to the
Democratic Party, so I also get her spam text and
there's always this one that just is.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Not mad, just disappointed. I saw that the time please
sign to confirm your support for Joe Byron in twenty
twenty four. Oh boy, yeah yeah, so yeah, you know
what I mean. You're saying democracy as it is being
used rhetorically to tell people like, don't demand more of
the incumbent, but what about democracy?

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Which is yeah, well, look like I have a twenty
five year long career in doing electoral politics. I have
been spent my whole life. I've spent my whole life
getting out Asian Americans and Muslim Americans and South Asians
to vote, and and I like created all this messaging
around like you know, we need to go vote so

(25:04):
that we can show these people in power that we
have power. They need to be held accountable to us.
And I feel like in the past six months that
rhetoric has, like the mainstream rhetoric, has just made every
reasoning I've ever done in my campaigns kind of fall apart.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And it just.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I haven't been able to work an election cycle this time.
I do not have it in me to like re
enter this kind of civic engagement world, which is awful
to say because you know this that I've been doing
this work for twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Like I'm so.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
So like heartbroken by like how how like democracy has
been falling apart in this this time period that I
would just rather write poems in the corner of the
world instead of like trying to encourage someone to go
vote in this in this period.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, it's it feels like it
many people are like just reaching that point where it
in past cycles, like it's been easier to like sort
of connect yourself to the stakes and like why it's
like why this is important. But it's just like, also
you see the cynicism of just like the people in
power and how they rule, and you're like, this is
so fucked Like we're just we're just talking about democracy

(26:25):
like it's some like this myth thing, Like it's not.
I don't see it functioning in any fucking way at all,
aside from the fact that there are elections where people
vote and they count votes for things. But in terms
of the idea of like an electorate also being able
to exert any kind of influence over their elected officials
that I mean, like just look around. I feel like

(26:46):
I see story after story work that is not the
case at all.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, even that what we've heard about like Congress people
like people are calling into their Congress members about what's
happening in Palestine, and those calls are being deleted by
the staffers, Like so we're the people in power aren't
ever actually hearing from the electoric.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Because it is. He gets mad at me if people
call about that. He gets so stressed out, so we
got to delete it so he doesn't do we get
more Goza calls today. No, no, everybody, the phone was
like ringing all day. It was just it was it
was just like telemarketers. You don't keep on keeping on, Senator, Yeah,

(27:30):
killing it, killing them, killing them, kill them, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, no,
it's it's yeah. I don't blame you because it's I mean,
like the cynicism I feel is at an all time high,
all time high. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
And just the discourse around even like the mere idea
of people wanting to exert, like exercise or use any
form of leverage they have to try and get a
candidate to do something different is being just met with
like just oh, so.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You love Donald Trump? Okay, all right, I didn't really. No,
that's very clarifying. I never said that. Glad to hear it,
that you love Donald Trump so much. Well, you know
it's not going to be any better if he's president. Right,
Oh god, yeah you're not. You're completely missing the point
the point of democracy. Yeah, it's it's not.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I sit back and I just accept what is put
in front of me, Like there is a little bit
of back and forth here, although yeah, like when you
read the stories.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Even like it sounds like it's not just fucking Biden.
It's like there's even senators too who are just completely
baring their fucking heads in the sand and being like, oh,
I don't know totally these polls are right, I don't know.
I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Everyone's so scared to say anything right now. And then
now now with all the student protests happening, I don't know,
masks are coming off of all of a sudden because
students are like practicing their right to protest and their
right to speak out on these campuses which they're spending
so much money on.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well, right, it's my right as a senator to say,
I think those kids should be killed. Okay, I think
exactly they should be deported. Yeah there you go. Oh Jesus,
that's a solution. Yeah, yeah, because I don't really I'm
not smart, so this whole thing is very inconvenient for me.
So yeah, all right, let's felt that one felt that

(29:22):
overrated for sure, just a little.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's just a little overrated.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, because it's also I'm sorry to go back to this,
like even though so many headlines every day, like with Trump,
even like with this like latest video he posted where
there's like something about a unified Reich like in this
like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
If you guys saw this game.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
He didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
He posted it and like it's it's like a headline
from like a World War one thing or whatever. But
obviously people are like, look, look what he's trying.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You see what this is? What this guy is gonna do?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
This is and all of the emphasis is on how
bad Trump is and the idea that no one is saying, well,
can Biden do better? Like that that is being completely
obs cured and also is being like erased from the conversation.
Is so frustrating because it's basically telling everyone in the
electorate who has a concern or an issue that they

(30:10):
they want addressed. It's like that actually doesn't fucking matter
right now, because we just need to focus on how
bad this fucking guy is. Okay, and I don't want
to fucking hear it. Okay, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, And yeah, that's just how do you how do
you look at that as a system and be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this works, this is good. This this will help. Thanks
for good is the solution? Yeah right, all right, shall
we get to the endless shrimp I think big news
in the world of endless shrimp deals from Red Rodder. Yeah. So,

(30:42):
now it does tie back to kind of a ongoing
theme here, which is when when there's like a an
institution in the world of like consumerism, commerce and it
just like kind of dies even though it seems like
it's been doing basically the same thing that it's always
been doing. Toys r Us is an example from the past.

(31:04):
Jay Crew is an example from the past. KB Toy,
like all the toy stores, all any company that was like, yeah,
they were good at that very specific thing and like
seemed to be growing and growing, and then they just
like went away. It's usually because a private equity company
came in bought them or like became a major investor

(31:25):
in them. And these private equity companies, which if they
were acknowledged as like the massive companies that they are,
like they you know, they're like a bunch of shell companies,
like embedded with within one another because they don't want
people to know how massive they are. But if people
knew how massive they are, they're like the third and

(31:45):
fourth biggest companies. Some of them are like the third
and fourth biggest companies in America, like behind Amazon and Apple.
Like they're these massive companies that operate essentially as a parasite.
They like get you to commit to them with money,
and then they insinuate themselves into the bloodstream of your
business in a way that benefits them and literally kills

(32:08):
the host and like then they move on. It's they
got the blood. It's this massive, like clearly broken part
of how capitalism works right now that nobody's doing anything about.
And in fact, it like seems like it's like invisible
to the mainstream media. And like this red Lobster story
is a great example, Like it hit and everyone's like

(32:30):
out of business because they fucking did too many stream
Yeah yeah, there's so many jokes and fun headlines about
I mean we did some thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And
I think but even then, when we saw that, we
were immediately like private equity. I think in the middle
of her like, hold on, let's just google red Lobster
private equity, and we did, and we're like, oh, that's

(32:51):
what the fuck it is. And then we're like Okay,
soon enough, they'll.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
File for bankruptcy and cut to now they have, and
so the private equity aspect of it, the company, Golden
Gate Capital basically did what all private equity firms do
when they buy a brand. They start liquidating assets and
trying to get as much money out of the company
as they can cash out of the company as possible

(33:13):
and drink all their blood because fuck longevity and like so,
when a company like Red Lobster owns the real estate
that the restaurants operate on, you have less to worry
about when times are lean because you don't have to
worry about like paying rent, because that's not part of
your operating costs. And that's what makes these private equity
firms so dangerous. They see that, like, the only valuable

(33:35):
asset a company like Red Lobster has is the real estate.
So Golden Gate Capital sold the real estate to help
fucking fund the purchase.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Of the company.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, and then did a lease back where now they're like,
all right, Red Lobsters, you got to start paying money
back to the new people that own the real estate
because we sold it for money for us. This is
a critic of private equity. I lean apple Bomb put
it this way, quote. Once they sell the real estate,
then the private equity company is golden and they've made
their money back and probably more than what they've paid.

(34:03):
The retail apocalypse is all about having your real estate
sold out from under you so that you have to
pay the rent in good times and in bad And
so once they got their real estate money, Golden Gate
sold about a quarter of the company to a Thai
seafood company, Tai Union, who is now operating the restaurants
and is now basically holding the bag because they're like, oh,
this shit is this shit does not work at all. Yeah,

(34:24):
And like we're saying, most headlines you're gonna read about
this bankruptcy don't mention private equity at all, like in
the headline, and why would they, because like you go
to Fortune dot com and it's just like, oh, what
went wrong with red Lobster And it's like there's not
even a fucking mention of it. Some articles do explicitly
mentioned private equity, but not as basically saying like it's
all because of this is how private equity operates. Like

(34:46):
they were purchased by private equity firm Golden Gate Capital,
and the story isn't Oops, we sold too much cheap shrimp.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's oops.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Private equity is fucking hollowing out companies and greed and
chaos and the markets and sue because of their greed and.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
A jingle Quick starts. Boston Market is also in a
similar situation due to private equity. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
they've been private equitied up to the gills. There is
like a story where the shrimp company that like owned
Red Lobster was then like basically selling, basically committing to

(35:22):
these massive orders of shrimp so that they could like
pay themselves essentially, like they were kind of double dealing.
But again, it like everything, all the laws of like
the basic laws of like supply and demand and like
markets just stops functioning when like private equity gets involved
because private equity is they pretend like they're an owner,

(35:44):
but they're actually just a parasite that is just trying
to drain the company of like all money, and they
don't care if it dies. It doesn't matter to them
if it dies because they're invisible, So they just get
all the money and fuck off to the next company
that they're gonna put out business.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I mean, I really I feel like this should be illegal.
But then it's like what you said, it's private because
we have all this protection around what we have protections
around monopolies, we have protection around they're trying to like
get TikTok banned in the US because they you know,
we have all these other laws protecting businesses. I don't
understand how they were. They're literally able to sell the

(36:22):
land underneath the underneath the store out under them well.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Because it's like, well, we own the company, so now
we own the real estate, and now we can do
whatever we want. And now our business model is so
backwards that we don't care about operating costs because we
already made our money selling the fucking real estate. And
who gives a fucking freend lobster eyes or whatever, or
the people who work there don't have a fucking job anymore,
and like, yeah, I mean it is difficult because like
they're really fucked up versions of the story. Like when

(36:48):
you're talking to a lawyer at the DOJ who does
was specifically working in like private equity cases is stuff
when it like relates to things like healthcare, like you know,
fucking retirement homes and things like that and elder care,
where these companies just go like, well, we found a
way to run this business very lean and make a
profit for ourselves. And now a retirement or elder care

(37:08):
center is not running like above board at all or
like just has you know, barely enough staff, barely enough equipment.
And then when people tragically die, people like the victims
are the victims or the families of the victims have
no legal recourse because the way these are structured. They
go and they're like, well, who actually owns this? I
mean it's private equity, but the way we're structured is

(37:30):
we represent a consortium of investors as like a fund,
so it's there's really like and that's how they get
away with like this really fucking heinous stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
One thing though, is that it did like Slate dot
com like they they they acknowledge like the private equity part,
but they also did a thing about like people who
worked at Red Lobster. We're talking about how bad the
endless Shrimp thing was, Like how people would get fucking
wild over the endless shrimp and they're like, look, man,
I got literally have a lot of fucking table, Like

(38:01):
you can't get a to go box. That's the fine
print of this, right or people, Like they said, one
person would stay like for hours and like nap at
the table in between, like heaping servings of shrimp scampy
o pasta can't make me leave. That's not it. No,
where's that in your fine print? Asshole?

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah yeah, but you know all these like Asian buffets
do it, like yeah, the people go and eat the
shrimp and all those and they're able to survive because
they're they own themselves.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Right yeah, and they're like, well, we know how to
run a business and it's not to be like let's
make this sell Yeah. Yeah, let's make this as difficult
for ourselves as possible in terms of operating. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
But yeah, another one bites the dust. And I didn't
realize one thing with Boston Market. The thing that's really
kind of fucked them over. I completely didn't realize is
they basically gave the rest of like the food service
world the idea to be selling like delicious rotisserie chickens.
Oh really that's when Yeah, that's when Costco was like
I see, and then everyone was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Man, just get your Costco chicken. Like like, Boston Market
just didn't have a way to, you know, to compete
after that, not that that was like the only thing,
but that was like a huge Do you guys have
Kenny Rogers roasters? I think I lived in Kentucky maybe
at that stage, like early nineties, there was this there
that was like the first rotissery chicken I ever saw

(39:24):
was Kenny like a Kenny Rogers owned chain of like
rotisserie chickens, and that shit was so good. It was
like yeah, And then I remember Boston Market coming along
Boston Chicken I think it was called back then, yeah,
Boston Chicken. But yeah, I feel like I was at
the early adopting edge of rochessery chicken. Back then, they

(39:46):
only had one Kenny Rogers I remember in the Valley
was in Burbank, and I just never I was like,
I never, Like I didn't even know who Kenny Rogers
was at the time. I was like, what the fuck
is this? And then I then I saw the Seinfeld
episode and I was like, I think it makes you
lose your mind. So maybe not. Yeah, this ship was
founded in ninety one, early days. Kenny Rogers roaster. Yeah,

(40:09):
God damn, you gotta know one to hold him and
no one to pull That's right, man, all right, let's uh,
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
talk about open Ai, the other scam of our lifetime,

(40:31):
and we're back. We're back. And so we talked about
how chat gbt's new assistant was being sold on being flirty,
like that was what they talked about at first. They
were like, yeah, it's like kind of flirty and fun
and like we'll just it'll be like having a real assistant.
And then came out and people were like, this sounds

(40:54):
like Scarlett Johansson's And then fucking Sam All just tweeted
the word her like he has like a liar, liar
curse or something. He just like couldn't help himself. He
was like her, Yes, it's her. And so now the
story continues to evolve the net now they're basically getting

(41:16):
in trouble for it. Yeah, I think. So.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Scarlett Johansson released a statement and it basically outlines kind
of like what her interactions were with Sam Altman and
open Ai, and she says that Altman first reached out
to her in September about potentially voicing Sky because he
believed it would quote breache the gap between tech companies
and creatives and something about her voice being like a

(41:39):
comfort to users, like that would just kind of help
people transition into this apocalyptic technology or they want you
to believe it's apocalyptic. Anyway, So she declined. She was like, yeah,
let me think about that.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
It's a no for me. Dog, she was like. And
then so I worked on the film, so I actually
had to watch it all the way to the end,
so I know what happened in the movie. It was
hers like thirty minutes, which is apparently all that you've seen, right, Yeah,
and I don't want to tell a user that I'm
also having simultaneous conversations with eight thousand other people or whatever.
That line was in the look that was dope. But

(42:10):
then so she did so she declined. And then two
days before the chat GPT demo came out, with the
sky demo came out, Altman reached out again, asking her
to please reconsider. Two days before yeah, yeah, exactly, just
someone probably reminded him, like, a you may want to
fucking circle back with scarlet Man because anyway, Yeah, he

(42:31):
had his AI legal team, akay, just a real legal
team look through his interactions and they were like, we're
fucked here, Sam, You asked her, dude, yeah, there's like
a paper trail, and before she could say fuck off, dweeb,
the company went ahead and released the demo.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
And despite the fact that like you said this, motherfucker
literally tweeted her h e er that when the demo
was released, he just said, this is a bad mix
up quote. We believe that AI voices should not deliberately
mimic a celebrity's distinctive voice. Sky's voice is not an
imitation of Scarlett Johansson, but belongs to a different professional

(43:07):
actress using her own natural speaking voice. We cast the
voice actor behind Sky's voice before.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Any outreach to mister whitt Wow. Out of respect for her,
we have.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Out of respect for her, we have paused using Sky's
voice in our products. We are sorry to miss jo
Hansson that we didn't communicate better.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
That is real.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Do they really think she wasn't going to lawyer up?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Like?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
How did they not think that?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't. I think it speaks to an arrogance of
these people generally that like even when they they think that,
like they don't realize how eerie their technology is, and
like Scarlet, like we really think like you can help usher,
Like they're like, dude, no, so we'll reach out Scarlett.
She'll be like, yeah, oh my god, it's so cool.
Would love to be involved. And yeah, there wasn't just

(43:56):
a massive strike of writers and actors that were all
about being like yo fuck ai. Yeah, so we want
to ask her to be her mmm okay. But basically
it seemed that like once her lawyers she lawyered up
when she saw this, and once her lawyers asked their like,
we'd like a step by step explanation as to how
the voice of Sky was even made open air. I

(44:18):
was like, it's all good man, taking it down. It's
actually cool. We actually don't need to give you that
because we're gonna take it down because we're like, we
just the thing we hate is a miscommunication. So that's
why we're taking it down. It has nothing to do
with like how we came about that and whether we
had microphones placed around her house to hear how she

(44:42):
says various or just feted a bunch of movies right
and trained it on like a bunch of lines of
dialogue or whatever. And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
It's like, because these companies are already facing huge lawsuits
from like news outlets and other like writers and things,
because these models are trained on other people's fucking work.
So I don't think it's too much of a stretch
to think that maybe Scarlet's voice may have actually been
involved with this, like development of the sky voice. Also
fucking Sky Scarlet, like there's.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Just sky is where her character goes at the end
of the movie. Okay, I'm just saying, connect the fucking
dots smiles or actually her name is Skylight. Oh, it's
nothing to do with Scarlet, it's that Wait, god, it
just sounds like an Australian person saying Scarlet, shut the

(45:31):
fun Scarlet scar Sjanson Skylight jokes dancing. Yeah, that's the
full name of her. It has nothing to do with
the movie or that, but yeah, I think what's even wilder, though,
is recently Sam Altman gave his interview where he was
asked to predict the future in regards to fucking AI
and just listen to his answers. He's got some like

(45:54):
this guy can like see the future in like new dimensions.
I didn't even like, can't even think of that is crazy. Yeah,
so he's being asked by this guy. He's saying, hey, man,
so like where do you see, like what jobs do
you see becoming like actually in demand because of AI?
And this is his very fucking groundbreaking answer.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
That's a great question, and I don't think I've evergotten
it before. It's people always ask like what job is
going to go away? The new one is a more
interesting question. Let me think for a second. I mean
that there's like a lot of things that I could
talk about that I think are sort of less interesting.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Or like such a bullshit try and answer like some.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Theoris of killing time people do or fifty million people do.
Get to the answer for the broad category of new
kinds of art entertainment sort of more like human to
human connection. I don't know what that job title is going.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
To be, but I think friendship.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
And I don't know if this like we get there
in five years, but I think there's going to be
a premium on like human in person and like fantastic experiences.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I don't know what we'll call that. Yeah, we'll call
that fucking concert events Disneyland going. I think there's going
to be like I don't know, like really cool thing
like premium on like people like sitting around a table
and like consuming food together or something, you know what
I mean, Like it's just like really, I don't know,

(47:23):
it's like I'm trying to think like one hundred million,
fifty million. That's it. Like listen to any like tech
person like that. They're great at They will compliment the
ship out of the interviewer, and then they'll also just
like throw out massive numbers at various points. I'm not
I don't want to like talk about the ones that
are going to be like small. I want to talk
about the ones one hundred three hundred million out of

(47:45):
the way. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
His answer reminds me of like back in the world
of voting, like four years ago or five years ago.
That's like election cycle, everyone was talking about relational voting,
and all relational voting is is like when one person
and talks to their friends about voting and encourages them
to vote. But it became as like breakthrough cutting edge

(48:08):
for your organizing, right.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I mean, that's that's a really I mean, it's a
brilliant page to take out of these grifters in Silicon
Valley because there is so many things of just pivoting
and describing something that exists in like these new fantastic
terms and you're like, oh my god, dude, did you
hear what Altman said? Premium in person fantastic ex that's

(48:33):
when you're like, dude, you're cooked.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Man, if you're if your brain is boomeranging back to
just regular life as you look into your AI future.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
H that's that's right, Like, like, how is AI connected?
I think that's true. I think people will in the
future put more of a premium on being together in person.
What the fuck does that have to do with AI whatsoever?
Like the AI will make the experience premium. Yeah, yeah,
premium in person fantastic experiences where you're like premium and

(49:06):
just like so like so so authentic, but like so yeah,
you know, experiential immercy. I want to look like I'm
not I'm not even looking at like ten years from now.
I'm looking like thirty fifth, like ten centuries from now. Yeah, Okay,
And that's and that's what I see right now. People
are people are just gonna be yearning for it, you know,
and after you know, this will be after the inevitable

(49:27):
resource wars and we're trying to figure out when I
own all the water, So you'll actually get into whatever
the fuck I tell you to be into Yeah, the
uh is? I was just like kind of seeing what
they were saying on the open A. I read it
and like, first there is one person who just quote tweet.
He was like a thing that I think a lot
of people are missing, and then like just quoted the

(49:50):
thing where he's like, you know, we got a totally
different actress who is her own voice, and people are
uh huh.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
But do we have the audio for the voices?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
No. I was trying to find it this morning. Have
you been able to find that? Which one like? The
Scott Sky's voice sounds like, oh yeah, I mean we
think Sky is related to sky Rizzy, by the way,
and why, hey dad, why do so many people like
sky Rizzy? Why are so many? Why is sky Rizzy
so popular? Is a question ts that my six year
old asked.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
As long as he's not asking you about skibbity again,
skimmity toilet, he knows what that is. That was what
we talked about last time I was on your show.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, jesus, let's see. Let me see if we can
hear it here. Hey, catcht How are you doing. I'm
doing fantastic, Thanks for asking. How about you? Pretty good?
What's up? So my friend Barrett here, he's been having trouble.
He's got that rap, you know what I mean, rasp
to it, you know what I mean? Yeah, And just
the overall energy is very similar. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. It's

(50:58):
like a combination of her voice and like a little
bit of like Siri mix. Yeah, a little bit hyper, yeah,
a little Yeah, it's the her voice on uppers Deck.
What if it was like a little more perky, what
if it Yeah, yeah, but still got that rasp to
let people comforting. Also, a lot of a lot of

(51:19):
fake legal experts in the subwriter are like, well, it
doesn't matter. You can't copyright a voice. So I just
wish Scarla Johans would just shut up and stop being
mean to Sam Altman. And what is that even? Based
on what logic is copyright a voice? So I don't
know what you're talking about. And somebody was like, actually,
Bette Midler successfully sued the Ford Butter Company in nineteen

(51:40):
eighty eight because very similar she was approached to sing
in an ad for Ford, said no, Ford got an
impersonator instead to sing a Bette Midler song in their ad.
Gotcha fucking audacity? Amazing? Yeah, Yeah, I keep trying, so

(52:02):
we'll see, but it is pretty funny that they are
this fucking stupid. And finally, I want to talk about
Jesse Waters. This seems to be the rhythm of his
show over and over again, where he like brings somebody
on his show, mocks them and immediately gets owned by
the guest right or right or he. It's usually usual

(52:25):
foxing where they think they've booked someone who is not intelligent,
but then actually knows how to speak very well and
just dunks on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like
his show is structured like the toll Booth Willie skit
on that Adam Sandler album, where like different people just
come in and politely tell him to go fuck himself,

(52:45):
and he's just like fuck you with a polite smile.
But yeah, in this case, videos of rage rituals in
which women go to the woods and smash things or
like shout, how.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Have I A is a woman not known about?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Well, you're you're not on TikTok enough, clearly, because that's
where they're apply.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
This is what I have to do on camping.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Also, it costs two thousand to four thousand dollars these things.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Like I get the catharsis of screaming and getting your
frustration on a very physical way. But to charge people
two to two grand.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
To do that feels Look, yeah, what does the money go?
The wellness industry as wild?

Speaker 4 (53:25):
But one day option is two hundred and twenty two dollars.
What I'm in the wrong industry?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, seriously, yeah, get off. These writers' groups
start doing rage outs with creatives. We go to the
woods and we throw rocks into a stream, and it's
like three grand, pay me, that's it. But Jessee Waters,
you could probably predict his objection, which is like, what
are women so angry about? What are they mad at?

(53:53):
Are they mad at me? They're probably mad at me? Right,
So he dedicated a segment on his show to this trend,
asking why are women so mad these days? Gee? How
much time do you have? Asshole? He said, women are
very upset. Why mystery? Probably something we did, And then

(54:14):
he proceeded to condescendingly interview the self proclaimed which Mia Magic,
who runs the retreats. But she was like, Hey, I
actually read your shitty book over the week You shouldn't
say shitty. She was like, I read your book over
the weekend. Man like, so I know you a little bit.
So when he balked at the suggestion that men should

(54:35):
be more emotionally available and vulnerable, Magic countered you got
a divorce, Jesse. Right, I'm sure you had a couple
of nights where you were sad and where you felt lonely.
You know, I think that everyone needs to feel comfortable
to feel which, yeah, we should just play the quote
because he's really being a smug prick, and then just

(54:57):
the chest pass right back. It is like you're divorced, right, Guys,
you know you're not saying so you're saying a lot
really fast. So we have to write this down. You
said listening, holding, listening, nurturing, these things women should expect
from men.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Bringing nature, going out into nature, great because nature.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Okay, listening to them, holding them, taking them on walking.
This is the first time he's ever heard, am I
missing anything?

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Asking them what they need for support, asking.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Them for He's like he's taking a fucking order, like
someone's bizarre order at the restaurant. Okay, so you want
to taking someone to.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Hear your needs? Okay, I never heard that one before.
All right, go on, Jesse, Okay, these are this is
this is being vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Being vulnerable, I think men.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
A deal killer. You got divorced, Jesse, Right, I'm sure
you had a couple of nights where you were sad
and where you felt lonely.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
You know, everyone the most vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Manual every meet, But we have to go. You're a
good wach so weird, we have to go.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Okay, And he said, you're now we gotta go because
you're a good witch.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Wow. Yeah, but yeah, it's He's like, I'm I'm the
most vulnerable. How do I get me out of this
moment as fast as possible? God? You know he fucking
like when they like rapped recording, he went to his
like fucking dressing room and just like looking in the
mirror with like tears in his eyes. Just smile, never

(56:32):
bra but just fuckings his veneers cracked through the sheer
tension in his job. You're good, you're smiling. Yeah, man,
Me and magic though two to four grand like him
always repeating this same ritual like he's got He's probably
has like a humiliation thing, right. I feel like he

(56:57):
was maybe trying not to like have an orgasm during
during that part where she was humiliating him.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Just yeah, Okay, there's so many if you just search
Jesse Waters humiliated. It's like there's like so many things,
like whether it's like his mom or other guests whoever
come on, there's always like something and he's like, ayay,
thank you, okay mom, good, good to know.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
I wonder what his wife is thinking watching this.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
His ex his ex his ex wife, ex wife, that's right,
X ex wife. Yeah, I don't know my wife anymore.
Oh Jesus dude. Noel Waters. He married her in two
thousand and nine, went ten years. Filed for divorce in
twenty eighteen, after Waters admitted to an affair with a

(57:49):
producer on his show. On his show, yeah damn, Jesse,
damn bro have.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Written it better?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah? I mean, should I say to poet, wow, M vulnerable? Yeah,
gotta get vulnerable with that, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
But you know, like in that instance, do you think
he really even perceived that divorce as an l He's like, not,
I found a better one, of course, but I liked
more than my wife, so I win and she's crying haha.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Jesse undefeated. Like that was when he like doubled down
into like his like I'm don draper type of thing
right around that time. Yeah, huh interesting. Yeah, oh he
ended up marrying this produce. Oh he really did the switch.
Wait he admitted to an affair. She admitted to an affair.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
No, he admitted that like he had he had the affair,
and now he is married to the person that he
had the affair with. Oh, like he fully did the Tarzan.
He's like, let me grab the next vine and let
me let go.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Of the other one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, well he wrote all about it in his book.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, in no way a self serving account. In no
way self serving, one sided account of what happened there.
I'm sure. I mean you know what that book is
called How I Saved the World?

Speaker 4 (59:03):
By No, it's not, is it really?

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Oh my god? Oh boy you And then he has
another one, Get It Together, Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe? Wow,
get it Together? Which is weird? That is like, where's
your son?

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeahs do you think you talked about the divorce on
Get It Together? Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe or
How I Saved the World? Because either one, it's weird,
like how I Save the World, I've been cheating on
my wife and marrying this associate producer and now having
my kids question what their family life is about.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Whatever does matter. I'm we're good here, we're here, We're good,
We're good. Well, Taz, what a pleasure having you as always?
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Well, I'll be in the forest raging and throwing sticks.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
And getting lamming a sand dune with a piece of drift.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Yeah, and like bear horning bears.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Actually, I might have a new podcast coming out soon,
so keep your eye out on that. Might do something
with Jenny Yang.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Oh you love Jenny Yang.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Very excited about that new project. And you can find
me on the Internet's at Tazzi Star spelled like Mazzie
Starr but with a te on Instagram and wherever your
social media, and you can get my book. Please get
my book. It's at Large Press and wherever you get
your books.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
To tell us that name one.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
More grasping at this planet just to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
And we will have that link in the footnotes. So yeah,
if you're interested in that gang, you will find a
way to get it. Just check the footnotes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Thanks for having me this. I always love coming on
this show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
It's always having miles. Where can people find you? Is
there a work of media you've been enjoying? What about Taz? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah and Taz.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
I mean Bridgerton Obviously, I've been obsessed with Bridgerton's So
that is where my head is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
How many episodes are out? I feel like, did they
put out They did the thing where they put out
half the season once and then I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Basically watched like, I think twelve episodes in the past
twenty four hours. I think that's what's happening. Shit, Like
I definitely did a big binge.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Maybe it was like two days, but that's not this
this season.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
You're saying, like no, no, no, I did like season
two and season.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Three, got it, got it, got it? Yeah, yea, yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Did a major catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yes, yes, Miles. Where can people find you as their
working media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me at Miles
of Gray on Twitter, Instagram, wherever they got the ad symbol.
You can find Jacket on the basketball podcast Miles and
Jack got Mad Boosties. We're talking about the NBA playoffs
because now we've got our conference finals set up. In finals,
the Celtics are cake walk in it. They're sleepwalking into

(01:01:54):
the finals and that's okay, and that's okay. You can
also find me talking ninety milos not and you can
also catch me talking ninety four to twenty day fiance
with Sophia Alexandra. Don't have a work of social media,
but I will say I encourage everybody to watch The
Godzilla Minus one if you haven't. It's the again, the

(01:02:17):
way they make it out like a human story despite
it being about Godzilla. It's it's it's wild, it's wild,
and I can't stop thinking about it anyway. That's that's it,
and that's it from me on that, and that's all
I've got to say about about that is Miles. You

(01:02:37):
can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien tweet
I've been enjoying, Actually it's a TikTok at Trent Underscore
Miller Underscore, who is a realtor who does like speed
tours of Oh, there's just like sprinting from room to
room and pointing at things while having what appears to

(01:02:59):
be a nervous breakdown. Just a lot of fun. And
then I'm also enjoying a tweet from Othilius Maximus who
retweeted a video of this Katana becomes engulfed in flames
when drawn. It's a video of somebody pulling at Katana
out and it like has a bunch of sparks that
light it on fire. And Othilius Maximus retweeted that and said,

(01:03:21):
this is the type of shit the Jizza wraps about.
Uh yeah for real. Uh. You can find me on
Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian. You can find us on
Twitter at daily Zeitgeist where a d Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily
Zeigist dot com. We post our episodes and our footnotes

(01:03:43):
or like off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as a song that we
think you might enjoy. Miles.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Oh well, I'm saying, keep your eyes locked on that
Facebook page all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You never know what can you never know what's gonna
pop up? So good anything at all. But we'll see
this track. Let's go out on this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Mike Will made it featuring Little Uzi vert track called
blood Moon that came out last year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I didn't hear it until I saw it like on
a on a Twitter clip of Joe Budden acting like
a hater and then he's like the beat is actually
pretty dope, and he's like, wait, actually this this, this
is the way I can I can't help myself. I
can't help myself. Music is this is good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
It's making my next snap and it will make yours
too in the positive way. So again, blood Moon Michael
made it featuring lil Uzi Furt. All right, we will
link off to that in the footnotes. That is like
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