In this edition of EtTrendgermentum, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Kamala's surprise SNL appearance, all the last-minute polling and election news, Trump being disappointed in Julia Roberts, the passing of the legendary Quincy Jones and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
On Halloween.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So Halloween, Yeah, how was your Halloween? I haven't talked
to Halloween.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I dressed as Drew Barrymore from Scream. I had like
I realized I've got the big blond wig. Then you
just need like a knit cream colored sweater. Yeah, and
like blue jeans. Okay, yeah great. I it was just
like it was one of those things people were I
(00:28):
was treated like some kind of weirdo the whole time,
walking around with the baby and we're trick or treating
and people are like, oh hey. It was just oh,
I don't know if you just don't talk to each
other like usually be like, oh cool costume. What are
you that feels like a thing? People just say, We're like, oh, like,
what are you supposed to be? Like, I'll ask because
sometimes people put a lot of energy in it, and
(00:49):
I'm like, oh, I want to be up on it.
Not a single person asked. A lot of people treated
me like I was just stealing candy from my baby child,
very odd, and I was like, we need to just
be able to ask. I don't want to wear a
fucking label that says I am Drew Barrymore from Scream.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
At the same time, I think also I could have
shaved my face. Yeah, minute, so I did. I probably
looked like some kind of weird like Southeast Asian crypto
criminal or something.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Sure, I feel I feel like if you had worn
a sandwich board that said I am Drew Barrymore from Scream,
it would have really sold it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah. I should have worn that sandwich board like Bruce Willis.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I keep telling you that I don't know why
you're not taking my note on that I.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Have it with like a switchblade stuck in the board
from that one scene where the guy throws the knife
at him.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, the uh, there we go. There's a requisite. I
heard three reference of the day. Brian, Brian did it
this time? Brian the editor is the Guilty Party sandwich Board.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, hello the Internet, and welcome to this Monday, November
fourth EPISOD.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So guys, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The week Trend edition where we tell you what was
trending over the week trend was spending on Monday morning.
My name is Jack O'Brien. That, of course over there
is Miles.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Drew Berry Moore from Scream. Bothered to ask what my
costume was? If you bothered to ask, if you bother
to ask more from scream.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I do think the cordless phone, but doesn't have to
be kind of hard to find these days.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I know my mom had. My mom does not throw
away old tech like if I need an old like
I remember I needed a prop for a video once,
like years ago, and we had two old iMacs at
that in the garage, nice like Newberry flavor back when ship. Yeah, yeah,
that I'm talking about launch like launch iMac in the garage.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well it looks like costume jewelry.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
All right, Well, uh, this is uh, this is the
day before the election.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hey, take your time tomorrow, take your time.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Hey, look the one thing comforting me. They did a
whole season of that show, twenty four and twenty four hours,
so you know you can fit a lot in before.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So just everybody calm down. We got all right, Tomorrow
is going to be bad. Tomorrow's gonna be weird.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's going to be weird. But I don't know. There's
there's plenty to make you feel good or bad. That's
depending on how you got the news.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
All right, So this is the episode where we tell
you what's trending. But first we tell you some of
the things that we think are underrated and overrated. To
let you get to know us a little bit better.
We allow it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We allow you.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
To get to know us a little bit better. Miles,
do you want to kick us off with some of
you thinks underrated? Something underrated?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Underrated? Donald Trump Junior's eyes as a barometer for how
well things are going in Trump world. Okay, because this
mf do Uh, this entire weekend has had He's had
the eyes of an anti cocaine p s A. And
I'm like, maybe maybe shit's all right. Like this one,
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there's like this one. I'm gonna just show you this one. Jack,
you tell me if this is the face of someone
who's who's who's who's preparing for eventual Trump win. Here's
here's Don Junior on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh my god, Don Junior is so high right now,
it doesn't have to be that way. We can vote
that don't do drugs.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Kids, You'll look like this guy.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Holy shit, he looks like he has some manner of
horrible eye infection or he is the highest anyone's ever been.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
God.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And then uh, yesterday he's again because like we said,
Plan A has not been to win this elec for Trump.
We've that's just been so clear from how everything's been going.
Plan A is to steal the election. And so this
is Trump doing his little you know bit, his little
uh contribution to keeping the people into believing that the
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election is going to be stolen without a doubt, and
also with featuring the same weird high eyes.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Drag it out for oh yeah, you know what they're
going to try to do.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
We've seen this playbook before, but this time.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, you can see he's.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Like we cling to you, don't give him a week
log at that his eyes closed.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think they're closed, and then like their times is
like trying to get them just like pry them open
with his eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it looks like someone trying to will themselves
out of a coma or something. If it was possible
to be like I'm off.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This, God damn, I hope this is a barometer of
anything beyond cocaine dependency.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I feel like it's also just again, you know, I
don't know. I I want to live in the reality
where there's not another Trump presidency for sure, but yeah,
I don't know. This It just feels like third act
of like the movies or the bad guy just has
to get so off their face to like just make
it through. But anyway, that's my thing. I'm looking at
that more than the polls. I go, mmm mmmm, we're
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using we're doing something to cope. Huh. I don't know
what it is, but I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
It also junior eye pull.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, look, you don't always need to take chemical accessories
when times are bad. Sometimes people do that to do well.
So it's you know, it could be either way, but
for me, I choose to see this as a as
a as an omen.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, he seems like he's fallen apart a little bit,
but has seemed that way for a while.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is but this is me,
this is me, how I'm I'm going to sleep, and
I go, oh, he's fucked up. Okay. They are most.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Certainly not looking like an owl homie, looking more like, yeah,
he spent too many hours like an owl and now,
uh his street light has been dimmed. All right, my
underrated the way I'm dealing with the fact that the
elections tomorrow, uh, you could probably guess his birds. It's
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the burbs. I discovered some videos of Ravens speaking this.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Weekend discovered like a fucking explorer.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I've miles dispatch from the depths of uh huh, you
know Twitter, just being on Twitter for a couple of hours. No,
I don't know. Like parrots are the bird we think
of when we think of like being able to speak
say human words. They have a very like everyone everyone
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can do an imitation of what a parrot sounds like
when they're talking about miles election, the election was stolen.
I just want to play a couple uh highlights of
a couple of videos of ravens speaking because they sound
like a fucking satanic tape recorder.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, let's start off with this clip that you've shared.
It's a raven on a shore of some kind of
a lake. Boy what.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Boy? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hell no, boy? Who you calling? Boy?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It feels it it sounds like someone's saying something like
in your ear yeah yeah yeah, boy, like right behind you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
It does creep. Did you want you remember did you
listen to the Other World that like six parts special
that he did with the with the Scandinavian woman.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I didn't get to the end of it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, oh, but did you get to the part where
like the aliens were talking through their throats and ship.
Oh yeah, yeah, it has this. This has this creepy
sort of like non human but human trying to communicate
quality to it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That yeah, there's a human in there. Like imagine just
being like walking in the woods and hearing that ship like.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
In the depending on the century, I'm like, oh, that's satan. Yeah,
and we have to repent.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Absolutely. It makes a lot of sense of people being
terrified of the woods, yeah, and of birds. And then
there's there's another one where a woman is just like
chilling with her pet raven and again just like making
all sorts of wild noises. They're apparently like great mimics
(09:37):
of everything like it doesn't you know there wins Low
esque when.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I've seen them like mimic like ambulance sirens and things
like that too. Okay, so this is another one. Lady
and Raven, the hit new duo coming out of America.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Okay, people talking about stories, usually ghost stories, in hearing
something in the woods that they can't see and they
can't place and.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
It moves around in the dark. And the first thing
that always comes to my mind is ravens as fables
just shown you all COVID so crows rooks, magpies, jays,
ravens can imitate, and they imitate much better than parrots.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
So I often think that with parrots it sounds quite
robotic and you can tell it's a parrot.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But with ravens, oh no, no, nope, Hi, but doesn't
too smart.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It sounds like something is fucking trapped in It sounds
like not just a bird target. It sounds like someone
is trapped somewhere, yeah, like inside the bird or something.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It feels like a bit where like a character just
opens their mouth and a recording plays or something where
it's like it it's just not I don't know. It
feels robotic in the sense of like this is a
machine that does a thing, that can replay audio out
of its mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, And so this applies to ravens are kind of
the best at it, but it applies to all corvids,
so even you know, crows jays are really good mimics,
and like ravens in different parts of the world sound
totally different from one another because they're imitating I'm assuming
like different sounds, right, but they're basically taking what's around
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them and like reflecting it back like there. So it's
just like the noises they make are like a reflection
of there's probably like sounds from the ancient world that
are like words from dead language that only survive in
like the calls of work.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't even think that it's just being you know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Sounds that were captured generations and generations ago.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Like that's probably why that one was like, boy, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's very problematic.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, but yeah, I was on a Georgia plantation. Boy,
Like what, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
All right, what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Mouth overrated? I'm just Americans sphere of death and you know,
unending pursuit for immortality. There's like something culturally very unique
about Americans where like we just don't think death is
like a thing that yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
We don't know that shit.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, and we're like all we have the forever young mentality.
I mean, like you look at like certain stats like
twenty eight of out of like the thirty eight like
high tech anti aging startup labs, or like in the
United States where like people are superstar in an article
about all these Americans who are super into dog cloning.
Just like this idea that we can just like, I
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don't know, maybe upload my brain to the cloud or
I can you know, Disney my body and cryo freeze
and be alive later. It just feels like again we
hate death and all act like it's a thing that's
not coming. I think that's also why we have politicians
that think they can still do a job while simultaneously
have the rest of America hating the site of old
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people like like what the fuck is so old? But
then the old people like I can do it, It's okay,
and like this is just fucking gross. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And I think had this as a as one of
mine a couple of weeks ago, but I think I
didn't necessarily I might not use it, but I it
was in response to like the Jimmy Carter photos and
people being like, oh my god, this ruined my appetite.
Stop showing Jimmy Carter. It's fucking disgusting. It's like, I
don't know, man, that's coming for all of us.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, right, And I think this idea of like pseudo
immortality also feel feeds into like the lack of action
in regards to climate change, like similar to like how
those who want to live forever believe that a miracle
pill is right around the corner, so we also have
like like the long termism type thinking around climate and
like what is like what we need to do now
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or what we don't need to worry about or because
like maybe a magic things right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Fine, Yeah, there's just it's just such a fucking damning
mindset and it's just like pervasive because like now as
you I think about that too in the context of
how like the Trump rallies clearly are having diminished turnout,
like physical like physically bodies are not showing up in
space to see Trump talk.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
One where he was like not an empty seat. They
tell you it's empty seats and then the camera opera
resooms the stadium.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think part of that too
is like this thing of like people being like, dude,
he's old. Like there it might finally be connecting. Aside
from that, the whole platform is odious. I think more
than that, it's just kind of like it's a bummer
to just see this guy. Like it's like again realizing
an elderly relative is like declining, and they're kind of
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like I don't know if I the like be there
for that, Like even though I I love. I love
what this stands for, but it's also like freaking me out,
as like coming from a culture where we want to
deny that death is a thing that comes for us.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, And I think it has something to do
with like fascism too. Becomes a lot more popular when
like people can't deal with their own fallibility and weakness
like that. And obviously, you know, as religion to clients
we've talked about before, you sometimes see and uptick in
these other ways of dealing with the fact that we
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all got that coming to us.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, TikTok TikTok man.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But again, with so many days between now and then,
and just think about the show twenty four. Look what
Jack Bauer packed into a single day.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, exactly. And he was on heroin and he was
on heroin. Wasn't he high on heroin when that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Was something that the terrorists did to him? And that
that is something to keep in mind. The terrorists will
hook you on heroin. Yes, uh yeah. I was reading
this book Stiff that's by a mortician, and she was
talking about how it's interesting that we need to name
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mammal meat like different words like steak and pork, like chicken,
we can admit because like we're we feel like different enough,
but like mammal meat, we're like, no, that's that's nothing
to be worried about. That's a steak, and that's a pork's.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And that's a pork, not a big that's col.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, cal burger. All right. My overrated is there's this
thing that people say where they're like, you know, New
Year's is for amateurs. New Year's the amateur hour because
people are like going out on New Year's the way
that they do. I feel like it's coming in like
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the functional alcoholic world.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I can't handle a fucking six hour binge drinking.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So yeah, like I have a drinking problem year round,
so I'm somehow superior in this lodge. I'm bringing this
up now this week because someone on the podcast search
Engine was making the comparison to like anxiety and election
season that like, this is the rest of the world's
chance to experience. Well, those of us with anxiety already
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spend our day to day lives like in that space
of just being terrified about things that we can't control.
It's like kind of our thing. So I don't know.
In both cases, I would say, like instead of being
like that's for amateurs, and fuck, fuck the amateurs. This
could be like our time to shine, you know. Yeah,
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welcome to anxiety. It's very uncomfortable, you know, dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You can too or not, yeah, or you can combine
both and drink your way out of it. I don't know, man,
just drink Like is December thirty, first of nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I feel like that's going to be happening as well,
But yeah, I don't know. Like I I find my
anxiety is helped when I like, actually don't try to
ignore it personally, but like think about it, talk about
it with other people who are you know, going to
actually listen to you, preferably like out loud, not on
the internet, and like be honest about how you're feeling.
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That's one of the main things that helps me, is
like trying to come directly at it. And anytime I'm
trying not to look at my anxiety, it gets worse.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Half half of what the battle for my own whenever
I'm feeling anxious about something is the fact that I'm
actively being like I don't want to feel like this,
you should be feeling like this. That's exacerbating it versus
being like, okay, something, something's up. Yeah, let's let's let's
investigate this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You're feeling exactly how you you are supposed to feel,
so let's let's deal with it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know anyway. It's for amateurs though.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
For amateurs, Oh, you have anxiety about.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Have anxiety? Yeah, it's that easy.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I've been here, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I've been sitting in front of my computer sweating for
the post four years.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I was fucking born in the darkness, motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's right. Meditation is very uncomfortable. I find that it's
helpful to meditate, and then right after you like write
things down. After you meditate, you're not trying to like
block anything out though. Again, like you know, just observe
the feelings you're having and the fact that you're having them,
and then you can, like, you know, think about those.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Like that Australian high jumper in the Olympics right after
every attempt.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
A little little anxiety journal exactly, little. Yeah, All right,
good luck out there, folks. Let's take a quick break
and we'll be back to talk about the ship that
is giving everybody anxiety. We'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
We're back, and we're back and we are back.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
All right, big weekend at the polls, which we will
get to. Also a big weekend in popular culture. You know.
Trump has continued to kind of do what he's been doing,
a lot of rallies, a lot of bragging, a lot
of like violent rhetoric. We'll dig into that a little
bit more tomorrow. Kamala Harris made a surprise cameo on
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Saturday Night Live this weekend, appearing as my Rudolph as Kamala.
So they cut my rootoff as Kamala, like is like,
all right, I'm gonna have a sit down with myself
before the speech turned the mirror and wouldn't you know it,
guess who? And I did take off my glasses and
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wipe them off and then put them back on. It
was the Kamala Harris. Uh And but I mean Trump
Trump supporters made a good point like this is a
direct ripoff of the mirror sketch that Donald Trump did
with Jimmy Fallon in twenty fifteen, which is a mild
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to think, Like I had forgotten that that happened, right,
But Trump wrote that sketch probably and came up with
the idea for it. So that's fucked up that they're
like biting his shit.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Dude. They're always biting his style, dude, they always been
biting Trump style. I mean yeah, I mean this is
also just like a time honored bit form that they
do on the show. Whenever they have a celebrity.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Literally, anytime they have a celebrity on that they've been
doing an impression of, they will do this bit. It's like, yeah,
one of the main genres of S and else.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Now they're stealing, they're fucking biting his style, and they're
they're infecting the voting populace by having this this amazing
appearance in a cold open.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, I don't know that. It was a solid sketch
that seemed to probably accomplish what Kamala Harris was hoping
that the Harris campaign was hoping for. And Trump is pissed,
not not just because they stole his idea for his
ketch with Jimmy Fallon, also because apparently he like that
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there are laws that say that there need to be
equal time provisions, and so next week Donald Trump gets
to be the host of SNL. Is what the law says,
right on time Yeah, so it seems like there was
actually an agreement ahead of time with NBC and Trump
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was given a long spot in a NASCAR race, like
ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's that's it, all done, all done. I know, although
everyone was like they're a fucking they're they're trying to
fucking you know, sandbag Trump or whatever. But clearly, as
a broadcaster like NBC, they know the law where they're like, yeah,
if one person has it, you got to offer to
the other. So that just means he got it during
the little the car race, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean Lorne Michaels pledged that note. So earlier in
the election season, Uh, Lorne Michaels had said no candidate
would appear in cameos because of equal time provisions. But
I feel like that was just him, first of all,
interesting to suddenly start start having morals about when candidates
appear on SNL Uh you know when he had Trump
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host SN on twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah. Still he's still he's still reeling from that one,
I think.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, but that those rules only say if one candidate
appears on a public broadcast, I not cable the network
to offer the same amount of time to other candidates.
The network, so hence the NASCAR ad being basically finished
like that, you know exactly what the letter of the
law is. But there was this headline that was going
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around an FCC commissioner, which I just assumed, because I
don't know the fucking hierarchy of the FCC, I assumed
that this was like the head of the FCC. It
is not, but he claimed. FCC commissioner claims Kamala Harris
SNL appearance violated equal time rule. The FCC commissioner in
this case is Brendan Carr, who isn't exactly an unbiased participant.
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He's a Trump appointee who literally penned a chapter of
Project twenty twenty five which prompted House Democrats to call
for an ethics investigation into him. But he's widely perceived
to be a front runner for FCC chairman, which is
the actual head of the FCC if Trump wins. But
that is is not currently his position, and the actual
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FCC weighed in and noted that a Car's comments do
not represent those of the agency, and b the FCC
has not made any determination regarding politically programming rules, nor
have we received a complaint from any interested parties because
again they had already agreed.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They've already worked it out. Yet they already worked it
out nice. Well, look they got to try something. Everything
has to be a scandal at this point. Again, they
have to feed the narrative whenever possible that they will
be right in their attempts to try and do some
kind of extra legal shit to try and return whatever
happens in the election.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So, in the world of actual polling and what people
think is actually going to happen tomorrow, there is a
big poll result over the weekend, the sellser poll or.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Sell jan sells her. I like, I like when people
like to put the initial first initial then so distinguished. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right Jan.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So Jayne is it just Joe Anne? But she just
like doesn't like that name.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, who knows. They're like, okay, it's fine. There were
a lot of Joe Ann's at my school. I went
with jan uh oh was absolutely a period, Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, she was the only person so she she just
does polls in Iowa first of all. So it's like
what I has the weekend started, you know, there were
some good early voting data for Democrats, and people were
like it looks like it could be leaning toward Harris,
like outperforming the polls by quite a bit if the
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early voting data is to be believed. But a lot
of the like polling insider people who just like are
obsessively following every poll were like, let's see what the
sells are poll says, because even though it's just Iowa,
she is highly respected. And the reason she's highly respected
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is that back in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, at
this point, like heading into the election, there were no
polls that were showing Trump doing as well as he
did except for her, like she was the only one
because she doesn't We talked last week about this theory
(27:32):
from this guy at Germentum that basically all the mainstream
media polls are kind of herding together around like a
like split right down the middle because they're terrified of
overestimating Harris again, like overestimating the Democrats again. And so
his theory is that like she's actually in a better
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position than the polls are indicating. And the thing that
I kept seeing was people be like, if Harris is
within like five points of Trump, will know that things
are like really in a good position for the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, because it was like a it's a twelve point
swing basically, yes, yeah, from twenty twenty is what she
was showing, right.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Right, So that's the that's the thing, is like you're
looking at how things have changed from one election to
the next. And it came out and Harris was actually
leading Trump by three, which is among likely voters in Iowa,
which again seems it is a small sample size, but
this poll has been able to like predict trends.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
She's been within like a point up to between one
and two and a half points of the actual results.
So like, yep. And this also, I think in the
past got her a lot of flak because in twenty twenty,
everyone was like, dude, Biden's fucking killing it everywhere and
the race was a lot closer than it was, and
her twenty twenty prediction was it was going to be
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an R plus seven sort of result in Iowa, and
the outcome was actually plus eight. So she was spot
on people like, this is no, this is this is wrong,
this is wrong. Twenty sixteen R plus seven is what
she predicted, ended up being a plus nine, and that
sort of showed how Trump just tore through the Midwest
and twenty sixteen, and people were like, what the fuck?
(29:21):
So again, I think a lot of people are also
using this to like extrapolate these potential these results with
what could happen in other Midwestern states, because if she's
doing that well in Iowa, they say sort of like
the demographic makeup is very similar to places like Wisconsin
or Michigan, and maybe that means really potentially eight levels
(29:41):
of a blowout at best. But most people seem to
really just be taking this and be like, oh shit,
if this is this is the Selleser poll in Iowa
and we're actually having a Kamala lead, this this just
generally does not bode well for the Trump campaign. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Granted, I just like the so I was on a
real Salzer high on when when it broke on Saturday night,
the come doown is like, Okay, yes, she's been right before.
It's still a very small sample size. And one of
the samples was the Carrie George W. Bush election and
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Bush ended up like outperforming her poll by quite a bit.
And that does feel like that was an election that
felt really close heading in and ended up being really close.
So that like does and and you know, the bad guy,
the war criminal one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I mean, and since then though, she's been on
a run. I think a lot of people pointed out
because like a lot of Republicans are like, oh, let's
look at her. What she thought was gonna happen in
two thousand and four, and it feels like very specific,
like completely ignoring the last twelve ten to twelve years
of predictions and forecasting. But again, I think I think generally,
(30:57):
I think most people feel that just looking at crowd
sizes and just like the wacky shit that's coming out,
it's like, this doesn't feel like a winner. Like in
twenty sixteen, you could kind of be like, I can
kind of see how he's kind of convincing people here.
This has felt like a side show. So I think
combining those sort of things can make it feel a
little bit more possible realistic that Trump could lose, for sure, But.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think it's also understandable that everyone's like, I don't
want to feel good until we have, because.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's the most painful shit is to be like ha ha.
Trump took an l and then he's like, oh did
I And now we're dealing with all kinds of untold horrors.
But look, I think this is great news for everyone
who's just dying to go back to brunch. Thank you, dude,
get your brunch. Rezis fucking locked and loaded, baby.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I was on Saturday night when the pulling results came out.
I was just doing the opposite of doom scrolling. I
was dopamine scrolling. Ohit. And then I was also on
on Rezi making those brunch reservations bro for this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'm gonna be shown a Sunday morning at noon maybe.
But yeah, I mean, this is this has fucked up
a lot of things like now, I mean because this
is again I think the other thing that a lot
of posters have pointed out just generally too, is there's
been a ton of these like partisan Republican polls that
have come out that are showing Trump leads that again
our way that are used to like you know, mess
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with the weighted averages to try and again make the
race seem close. Because this also, this is I think
we talked about this last week, is like the double
edged sword of all the like, well we think it's
going to be a tight race, help like absolutely feeds
into the MAGA narrative that if it's this close and
it's a blowout. Something's up.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, if it's close in the polls, or he's up
in the polls, and then yeah, I mean he's already
like that. They're already there was an article in the
Guardian we'll link off too, but they are already being like,
I'm winning in all the polls. It's over. It's going
to be a blowout. They're all going to find out.
So that. I mean, I'm sure partially he's a megalomaniac
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who believes that and nobody's willing to tell him that
that's the truth. But the tension is being focused on
like the right wing polling, like small right wing poles
that are like affecting the way to average. But it's
also like the big mainstream media polls are also showing
it as like a dead heat or you.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Know, yeah, well that's because they're cowards.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Right, they don't want to be wrong. I mean, I
don't know. The other like Times Sienna so Selzer and
Times Siann are the two that like have not traditionally
done the hurting thing, and Times Sienna is like much closer.
They have Harris like down in Michigan, and like tide
in Pennsylvania, so still seems like it's potentially going to
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be incredibly close.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But this was Yeah, I mean it feels like anything.
It's not what it isn't going to be as a
blowout in Trump's direction. It's either going to be a
blowout in the Democrats direction or a very tight race.
It's it's not going to be the thing like Trump, Like,
is there some wacky ones with Trump's up three in
fucking Wisconsin? You're like, no, yeah? What?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
He In addition to like citing the polls that have
him up, he said that this poll should be illegal
and called it fake, which it's just it's so long
to still be on the descriptor fake is kind of wild.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I think that's a good sign system should be illegal, like.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Illegal, and yeah, I don't know. It's like the other
thing that some people are paying attention to that I
don't think is even worth coverage, but it is getting
coverage is the betting markets, which are you know, yeah, yeah,
have traditionally been decent barometers, but now they're being a
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fact because people are you know, the scientific principle of
like when you start paying a lot of attention to something,
it affects how that thing behaves and performs. Like now
that there's a big story that Elon Musk and Nate
Silver are talking about that where it's like the betting
markets really are good at predicting this stuff. Now everybody's
(35:28):
paying attention to those, and the people who follow Nate
Silver and Elon Musk are putting bets in.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
There was also good good, but yeah, yeah, go ahead,
lose your fucking money.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And those markets suddenly after the cells are poll and
like the Medson Square Garden rally, were starting to shift
back toward Harris a little bit more after they were
like showing a guaranteed blowout. The other big betting market
revelation was there was this mysterious figure who invested like
twenty million dollars, like place twenty million dollar bet on Trump,
(36:02):
and the New York Times finally like you know, revealed
who it was and like interviewed them and it's just
like some rich guy in France.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, and he was thirty million down.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think, yeah, I think yeah, So that's like.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Completely shifted the markets because he dumped in like millions
of dollars.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And in the interview, his read on the election is
just like yeah, he's like, yeah, I don't know. Trump
got underestimated the last two times, so.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I say, yes, sports fan.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Right, it's like just the most basic kind of take,
and maybe the basic take is is right and he
will be underestimated again, but he knows. I mean, I
think people were like, oh, somebody betting that much money
must have some access to some like mysterious inside information,
and it just turned out it was just some rich guy.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You can just be a degenerate gambler with millions of dollars. Yeah,
it could also be true. The other thing that's really
interesting I saw it just with us in terms of
a vote around polling. Carrie Lake, who obviously has had
some terrible luck running for governors in Arizona and is
now running in the Senate against Reuben Diego, like she's
down in all like most of the polls, or like
maybe within a point or two, but she recently just
(37:15):
loved this ques see quote. My internal polling looks good.
We're ahead of my opponent, and I feel comfortable with
our polling. Our polling is a little different. We take polling,
but we also combine it with AI, which reads all
of what's happening on social media and across the internet.
Based on that, she's got some really interesting numbers. She's like,
(37:35):
I'm actually up when when you count in all the
twitter bot responses that are talking positively, I'm actually winning.
So therefore I might have to take another electoral l
But anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Talk to my AI assistant and yeah, they told me
exactly what I wanted to hear, which, by the way,
is frequently the job, the express job of a large
language model is to tell you what it thinks you
want to hear.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I want to endear myself.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back.
We'll talk a little bit more polls, and we'll talk
about a sad farewell to one of the greats. We'll
be right back. And we're back, and Brian the editor,
(38:26):
brought up a good question during our break. What are
the polls for miles? Why they're They're like just there
to tell us what somebody thinks is going to happen
in two days. That's going to happen either way.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And they get the satisfaction of saying and I knew it,
and I knew it, I pretended the future in your face.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're there to create celebrities like Nate Silver that who yeah,
and look at all the good he's done.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I mean he did change polling for sure. But yeah,
like now he's kind of he's a Twilight a bit.
But yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's it's a it's a gigantic industry,
and these are the kinds of things when you know,
when you're considered the gold standard, it means more people
will pay you more money for your your you know,
your forecasting. Although cells are operates in Iowa, but you know,
(39:16):
it's just it's the horse race. It's pretty much that
it's bad.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
It does. It has become something I've been become obsessed
with because of the fact that we have this like
fucking winner take all system. We have like these two
possible futures ahead of us that feel like they could
be starkly different from one another and really similar.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah you cut it, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I would be Yeah, I think early similar. If
Trump still had the same type of people around him
that he did in his first term, I think with
product twenty twenty five, they would be end up being
pret different. And so yeah, it's just human weakness. I
would say it's the reason for the polls. But I
do think a lot of people are struggling with the
(40:10):
what is going to happen of it all? I certainly
am somebody who's struggling with the what's going to happen?
Were they all lying to me? Of it all? Is one?
Donald J. Trump. So he got mad at Julia Roberts
for suggesting that Maga dude's wives can vote for who
(40:30):
they want to vote for and not just like for
who their husband wants them.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
To vote for. What happened to the good old days?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, exactly, But it's just an ad that she voiced.
But I like it because it also I don't know,
I feel like they should have been using this strategy
earlier to attack him from the direction of all the
people he cares most about, which is like people who
were relevant in the late eighties and early nineties.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, he's definitely it's this is him calling in the
Fox and Friends about this, and yeah, he's really disappointed
about it, like in this really sincere way.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I'm so disappointed as Juli you Roberts, because I look
and she's going to look back on that and she's
going to cringe that did I really say that? It
doesn't say much for her relationship. But I'm sure she
has a great relationship. But the wis and husbands that
I don't think that's the way they deal. I mean,
can you imagine a wife's not telling a husband who
she's voting for. Do you hear anything like that? Even
(41:29):
if you have a horrible if you had a bad relationship,
you're going to tell your husband. It's a ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
It's so stupid like marriage, and then your wife's like
being all secret behind your back that that wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
They tell you the truth, even if it's really bad.
Which is a really interesting point. But I do like
the idea of if any like Richard gear To also
do like an ad like that, and you.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Like, has Mike Tyson come out. I feel like he
would be really devastated if Mike Tyson came out and
like talked shit about him, because he's a big boxing
guy and you know he's.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Like Michael Douglas, always a hack. That guy, never liked him,
really disappointed him.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
It was yeah when he called it starts that off,
He's like, because I really love she's gonna be cringey,
like he almost he like stops himself from admitting his
feelings for Julia Roberts.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, anyway, what are you gonna do? I just like
though too. I don't know if you saw the pictures
of Trump and Eric Trump doing early voting at the polls,
and the cameras caught them both peering over the little
barrier to look at what their why their wives, how
they were voting, like in the most suspicious way.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Wife is the fucking head of the RNC.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
This school is literally bent. Eric Trump is like leaning
like it's the fucking smooth criminal video trying to like
look over the fucking divide or to see I think
these pictures really encapsulate potentially what the entire like election
could be. It's about these like these dudes who are
just like what and what are you doing? Better? Be
better to be doing the right making the right choice.
(43:14):
And over here, got to sit right next to me. Yep,
right here. Yep. That that that's not how you spell
Donald Trump. Move up, Yep, there you go, not that one,
not that one.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
He's also like someone who would make it his goal
to sleep with as many of his friends wives as
he possibly could, Like he would like record phone conversations
with his friends and then play back like suspect ship
that they said to the wives to try and like
get them mad enough at their husband to like fuck him.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
I guess wow, wow four d chess right, But like
he seems to understand that women don't tell their husband's everything,
but maybe he assumes it's different with him.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
But like you could just hear it in his voice
and nervous laughter there.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
He knows he's never been in a healthy marriage or
relationship that's like equitable in any way.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
He hes not telling me everything, Like you control.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Everything that they do in their life, and then they
don't trust you. Is that?
Speaker 6 (44:16):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Could you imagine? No way, even when it's really bad,
they would do that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I think we mentioned it last week. But Jesse Waters
similarly like melted down over the possibility that married mega
women would vote for Harris, which.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Like having an affair.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, almost like having an affair, which, by the way,
really uh, he's only married to his wife because he
chooses on his ex wife of ten years with her,
but obviously that goes one way.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
The wife doesn't do it to the husband. Okay, yeah, exactly,
that's weird. The guy should cheat on the girl, that's
I mean that's how That's what my dad taught me.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
All right. And finally we want to say a fond
farewell to one of the greats ever do it Quincy Jones?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yes, one of the true first like black entertainment moguls.
You know, like, this man has the egot, he's He's
dabbled in film, television, music, like fucking everything. You know.
Obviously the thriller is probably the thing most people will
talk about when they talk about him.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
But yeah, it's just correct thriller season, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean, we will always know him
for his wonderful interviews and the wild shit he would say.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I know he was a producer of Fresh Prince.
I didn't realize like how much until I think it
was like one of those interviews where they told the
story about how like he had Will He invited Will
Smith to his birthday party, which sounds like there were
a lot of people there, and then like made him
audition for him and like the NBC executives, he'd never
(45:57):
like acted before. Yeah, and he was like, Hey, we're
gonna do an audition because like I just like know
that you're gonna be good at this. He just like
conjured Will Smith's career out of thin air, just like
based on a vibe that he had like a hunch.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
He's got the gift. He's got the gift. And also
again for sneak sniffing out conspiracy theories and the like too.
Jones a very very gifted man.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, yeah, I got like the last thing. He got
a lot of attention for. And I think people are
treating this as like, you know, uh, you know, let's
not focus on his controversial interviews. But I feel like
his controversial interviews were fucking awesome, Like they were for
the best. They were so good.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, he says, I know too much. Man, What's something
you wish you didn't know?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
What's something you wish you didn't know?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Who killed Kennedy?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Who did it?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Oh, John Conna? The connection was there between the Knocker
and the mafia and Kennedy. Joe Kennedy. He was a
bad man. He came to Frank to have him talk
to John Conna about gift and votes.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I've heard this theory before that the mob helped win
Illinois for Kennedy in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Hey man, you know we shouldn't talk about this publicly.
Where are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
So where you're from? By the way, In this article
they were talking about how Will Smith was talking about
his first time meeting Quincy Jones and his first So
we go in and he said, where are you from?
I said, I'm from Philly. He said your characters from Philly.
I'm like okay, and then like that's that's all he
needed to hear. He was like, you're gonna be a
(47:33):
massive movie star now. He also talked about dating Ivanka Trump.
You talk about, you know, Marlon Brando, fucking everybody, including
James Baldwin, Richard Pryor, and Marvin Gay.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that was my favorite pivot too, because when
they're like, when they're like, how do you know that,
He's like, come on, man, he did not give a
fuck you like Brazilian music. That was one of my
favorite all time.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Quincy one of the pivots in the history of conversation.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Well, he said, man, he said he fuck anything. He's like, wow,
how do you know anyway like Brazilian music.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, he's the most charming motherfucker you ever met. He'd
fuck anything, anything, He'd fuck a mailbox. James Baldwin, one
of our greatest writers. And think of Ridgard bryorid of
coming to Marvin Gay, one of our great singers.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
He's stuck with them. How do you know that all mailboxes?
Obviously he fucking mailbox like James Baldwin. You know that's right.
Uh yeah, but ninety one, Um, just look Lincy, uh,
rest in peace to you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Absolutely. I'm sure there's a conspiracy theory out there, like
interesting that he revealed those things and now he bosses away. Yeah, okay,
was he vaccinated?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
He was ninety one? Full? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
All right, those are some of the things that are
trending on this Monday morning. We're back tomorrow with a
whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine,
get your blue shot, don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Bite bite,
On Halloween.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So Halloween, Yeah, how was your Halloween? I haven't talked
to Halloween.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I dressed as Drew Barrymore from Scream. I had like
I realized I've got the big blond wig. Then you
just need like a knit cream colored sweater. Yeah, and
like blue jeans. Okay, yeah great. I it was just
like it was one of those things people were I
(00:28):
was treated like some kind of weirdo the whole time,
walking around with the baby and we're trick or treating
and people are like, oh hey. It was just oh,
I don't know if you just don't talk to each
other like usually be like, oh cool costume. What are
you that feels like a thing? People just say, We're like, oh, like,
what are you supposed to be? Like, I'll ask because
sometimes people put a lot of energy in it, and
(00:49):
I'm like, oh, I want to be up on it.
Not a single person asked. A lot of people treated
me like I was just stealing candy from my baby child,
very odd, and I was like, we need to just
be able to ask. I don't want to wear a
fucking label that says I am Drew Barrymore from Scream.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
At the same time, I think also I could have
shaved my face. Yeah, minute, so I did. I probably
looked like some kind of weird like Southeast Asian crypto
criminal or something.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Sure, I feel I feel like if you had worn
a sandwich board that said I am Drew Barrymore from Scream,
it would have really sold it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah. I should have worn that sandwich board like Bruce Willis.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I keep telling you that I don't know why
you're not taking my note on that I.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Have it with like a switchblade stuck in the board
from that one scene where the guy throws the knife
at him.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, the uh, there we go. There's a requisite. I
heard three reference of the day. Brian, Brian did it
this time? Brian the editor is the Guilty Party sandwich Board.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, hello the Internet, and welcome to this Monday, November
fourth EPISOD.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So guys, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The week Trend edition where we tell you what was
trending over the week trend was spending on Monday morning.
My name is Jack O'Brien. That, of course over there
is Miles.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Drew Berry Moore from Scream. Bothered to ask what my
costume was? If you bothered to ask, if you bother
to ask more from scream.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I do think the cordless phone, but doesn't have to
be kind of hard to find these days.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I know my mom had. My mom does not throw
away old tech like if I need an old like
I remember I needed a prop for a video once,
like years ago, and we had two old iMacs at
that in the garage, nice like Newberry flavor back when ship. Yeah, yeah,
that I'm talking about launch like launch iMac in the garage.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well it looks like costume jewelry.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
All right, Well, uh, this is uh, this is the
day before the election.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hey, take your time tomorrow, take your time.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Hey, look the one thing comforting me. They did a
whole season of that show, twenty four and twenty four hours,
so you know you can fit a lot in before.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So just everybody calm down. We got all right, Tomorrow
is going to be bad. Tomorrow's gonna be weird.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's going to be weird. But I don't know. There's
there's plenty to make you feel good or bad. That's
depending on how you got the news.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
All right, So this is the episode where we tell
you what's trending. But first we tell you some of
the things that we think are underrated and overrated. To
let you get to know us a little bit better.
We allow it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We allow you.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
To get to know us a little bit better. Miles,
do you want to kick us off with some of
you thinks underrated? Something underrated?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Underrated? Donald Trump Junior's eyes as a barometer for how
well things are going in Trump world. Okay, because this
mf do Uh, this entire weekend has had He's had
the eyes of an anti cocaine p s A. And
I'm like, maybe maybe shit's all right. Like this one,
(04:12):
there's like this one. I'm gonna just show you this one. Jack,
you tell me if this is the face of someone
who's who's who's who's preparing for eventual Trump win. Here's
here's Don Junior on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh my god, Don Junior is so high right now,
it doesn't have to be that way. We can vote
that don't do drugs.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Kids, You'll look like this guy.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Holy shit, he looks like he has some manner of
horrible eye infection or he is the highest anyone's ever been.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
God.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And then uh, yesterday he's again because like we said,
Plan A has not been to win this elec for Trump.
We've that's just been so clear from how everything's been going.
Plan A is to steal the election. And so this
is Trump doing his little you know bit, his little
uh contribution to keeping the people into believing that the
(05:15):
election is going to be stolen without a doubt, and
also with featuring the same weird high eyes.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Drag it out for oh yeah, you know what they're
going to try to do.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
We've seen this playbook before, but this time.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, you can see he's.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Like we cling to you, don't give him a week
log at that his eyes closed.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think they're closed, and then like their times is
like trying to get them just like pry them open
with his eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it looks like someone trying to will themselves
out of a coma or something. If it was possible
to be like I'm off.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This, God damn, I hope this is a barometer of
anything beyond cocaine dependency.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I feel like it's also just again, you know, I
don't know. I I want to live in the reality
where there's not another Trump presidency for sure, but yeah,
I don't know. This It just feels like third act
of like the movies or the bad guy just has
to get so off their face to like just make
it through. But anyway, that's my thing. I'm looking at
that more than the polls. I go, mmm mmmm, we're
(06:19):
using we're doing something to cope. Huh. I don't know
what it is, but I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
It also junior eye pull.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, look, you don't always need to take chemical accessories
when times are bad. Sometimes people do that to do well.
So it's you know, it could be either way, but
for me, I choose to see this as a as
a as an omen.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, he seems like he's fallen apart a little bit,
but has seemed that way for a while.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is but this is me,
this is me, how I'm I'm going to sleep, and
I go, oh, he's fucked up. Okay. They are most.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Certainly not looking like an owl homie, looking more like, yeah,
he spent too many hours like an owl and now,
uh his street light has been dimmed. All right, my
underrated the way I'm dealing with the fact that the
elections tomorrow, uh, you could probably guess his birds. It's
(07:13):
the burbs. I discovered some videos of Ravens speaking this.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Weekend discovered like a fucking explorer.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I've miles dispatch from the depths of uh huh, you
know Twitter, just being on Twitter for a couple of hours. No,
I don't know. Like parrots are the bird we think
of when we think of like being able to speak
say human words. They have a very like everyone everyone
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can do an imitation of what a parrot sounds like
when they're talking about miles election, the election was stolen.
I just want to play a couple uh highlights of
a couple of videos of ravens speaking because they sound
like a fucking satanic tape recorder.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, let's start off with this clip that you've shared.
It's a raven on a shore of some kind of
a lake. Boy what.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Boy? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hell no, boy? Who you calling? Boy?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It feels it it sounds like someone's saying something like
in your ear yeah yeah yeah, boy, like right behind you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
It does creep. Did you want you remember did you
listen to the Other World that like six parts special
that he did with the with the Scandinavian woman.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I didn't get to the end of it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, oh, but did you get to the part where
like the aliens were talking through their throats and ship.
Oh yeah, yeah, it has this. This has this creepy
sort of like non human but human trying to communicate
quality to it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That yeah, there's a human in there. Like imagine just
being like walking in the woods and hearing that ship like.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
In the depending on the century, I'm like, oh, that's satan. Yeah,
and we have to repent.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Absolutely. It makes a lot of sense of people being
terrified of the woods, yeah, and of birds. And then
there's there's another one where a woman is just like
chilling with her pet raven and again just like making
all sorts of wild noises. They're apparently like great mimics
(09:37):
of everything like it doesn't you know there wins Low
esque when.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I've seen them like mimic like ambulance sirens and things
like that too. Okay, so this is another one. Lady
and Raven, the hit new duo coming out of America.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Okay, people talking about stories, usually ghost stories, in hearing
something in the woods that they can't see and they
can't place and.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
It moves around in the dark. And the first thing
that always comes to my mind is ravens as fables
just shown you all COVID so crows rooks, magpies, jays,
ravens can imitate, and they imitate much better than parrots.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
So I often think that with parrots it sounds quite
robotic and you can tell it's a parrot.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But with ravens, oh no, no, nope, Hi, but doesn't
too smart.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It sounds like something is fucking trapped in It sounds
like not just a bird target. It sounds like someone
is trapped somewhere, yeah, like inside the bird or something.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It feels like a bit where like a character just
opens their mouth and a recording plays or something where
it's like it it's just not I don't know. It
feels robotic in the sense of like this is a
machine that does a thing, that can replay audio out
of its mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, And so this applies to ravens are kind of
the best at it, but it applies to all corvids,
so even you know, crows jays are really good mimics,
and like ravens in different parts of the world sound
totally different from one another because they're imitating I'm assuming
like different sounds, right, but they're basically taking what's around
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them and like reflecting it back like there. So it's
just like the noises they make are like a reflection
of there's probably like sounds from the ancient world that
are like words from dead language that only survive in
like the calls of work.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't even think that it's just being you know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Sounds that were captured generations and generations ago.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Like that's probably why that one was like, boy, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's very problematic.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, but yeah, I was on a Georgia plantation. Boy,
Like what, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
All right, what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Mouth overrated? I'm just Americans sphere of death and you know,
unending pursuit for immortality. There's like something culturally very unique
about Americans where like we just don't think death is
like a thing that yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
We don't know that shit.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, and we're like all we have the forever young mentality.
I mean, like you look at like certain stats like
twenty eight of out of like the thirty eight like
high tech anti aging startup labs, or like in the
United States where like people are superstar in an article
about all these Americans who are super into dog cloning.
Just like this idea that we can just like, I
(12:49):
don't know, maybe upload my brain to the cloud or
I can you know, Disney my body and cryo freeze
and be alive later. It just feels like again we
hate death and all act like it's a thing that's
not coming. I think that's also why we have politicians
that think they can still do a job while simultaneously
have the rest of America hating the site of old
(13:09):
people like like what the fuck is so old? But
then the old people like I can do it, It's okay,
and like this is just fucking gross. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And I think had this as a as one of
mine a couple of weeks ago, but I think I
didn't necessarily I might not use it, but I it
was in response to like the Jimmy Carter photos and
people being like, oh my god, this ruined my appetite.
Stop showing Jimmy Carter. It's fucking disgusting. It's like, I
don't know, man, that's coming for all of us.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, right, And I think this idea of like pseudo
immortality also feel feeds into like the lack of action
in regards to climate change, like similar to like how
those who want to live forever believe that a miracle
pill is right around the corner, so we also have
like like the long termism type thinking around climate and
like what is like what we need to do now
(13:58):
or what we don't need to worry about or because
like maybe a magic things right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Fine, Yeah, there's just it's just such a fucking damning
mindset and it's just like pervasive because like now as
you I think about that too in the context of
how like the Trump rallies clearly are having diminished turnout,
like physical like physically bodies are not showing up in
space to see Trump talk.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
One where he was like not an empty seat. They
tell you it's empty seats and then the camera opera
resooms the stadium.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think part of that too
is like this thing of like people being like, dude,
he's old. Like there it might finally be connecting. Aside
from that, the whole platform is odious. I think more
than that, it's just kind of like it's a bummer
to just see this guy. Like it's like again realizing
an elderly relative is like declining, and they're kind of
(14:59):
like I don't know if I the like be there
for that, Like even though I I love. I love
what this stands for, but it's also like freaking me out,
as like coming from a culture where we want to
deny that death is a thing that comes for us.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, And I think it has something to do
with like fascism too. Becomes a lot more popular when
like people can't deal with their own fallibility and weakness
like that. And obviously, you know, as religion to clients
we've talked about before, you sometimes see and uptick in
these other ways of dealing with the fact that we
(15:33):
all got that coming to us.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, TikTok TikTok man.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But again, with so many days between now and then,
and just think about the show twenty four. Look what
Jack Bauer packed into a single day.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, exactly. And he was on heroin and he was
on heroin. Wasn't he high on heroin when that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Was something that the terrorists did to him? And that
that is something to keep in mind. The terrorists will
hook you on heroin. Yes, uh yeah. I was reading
this book Stiff that's by a mortician, and she was
talking about how it's interesting that we need to name
(16:13):
mammal meat like different words like steak and pork, like chicken,
we can admit because like we're we feel like different enough,
but like mammal meat, we're like, no, that's that's nothing
to be worried about. That's a steak, and that's a pork's.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And that's a pork, not a big that's col.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, cal burger. All right. My overrated is there's this
thing that people say where they're like, you know, New
Year's is for amateurs. New Year's the amateur hour because
people are like going out on New Year's the way
that they do. I feel like it's coming in like
(16:52):
the functional alcoholic world.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I can't handle a fucking six hour binge drinking.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So yeah, like I have a drinking problem year round,
so I'm somehow superior in this lodge. I'm bringing this
up now this week because someone on the podcast search
Engine was making the comparison to like anxiety and election
season that like, this is the rest of the world's
chance to experience. Well, those of us with anxiety already
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spend our day to day lives like in that space
of just being terrified about things that we can't control.
It's like kind of our thing. So I don't know.
In both cases, I would say, like instead of being
like that's for amateurs, and fuck, fuck the amateurs. This
could be like our time to shine, you know. Yeah,
(17:44):
welcome to anxiety. It's very uncomfortable, you know, dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You can too or not, yeah, or you can combine
both and drink your way out of it. I don't know, man,
just drink Like is December thirty, first of nineteen.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I feel like that's going to be happening as well,
But yeah, I don't know. Like I I find my
anxiety is helped when I like, actually don't try to
ignore it personally, but like think about it, talk about
it with other people who are you know, going to
actually listen to you, preferably like out loud, not on
the internet, and like be honest about how you're feeling.
(18:26):
That's one of the main things that helps me, is
like trying to come directly at it. And anytime I'm
trying not to look at my anxiety, it gets worse.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Half half of what the battle for my own whenever
I'm feeling anxious about something is the fact that I'm
actively being like I don't want to feel like this,
you should be feeling like this. That's exacerbating it versus
being like, okay, something, something's up. Yeah, let's let's let's
investigate this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You're feeling exactly how you you are supposed to feel,
so let's let's deal with it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know anyway. It's for amateurs though.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
For amateurs, Oh, you have anxiety about.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Have anxiety? Yeah, it's that easy.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I've been here, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I've been sitting in front of my computer sweating for
the post four years.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I was fucking born in the darkness, motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's right. Meditation is very uncomfortable. I find that it's
helpful to meditate, and then right after you like write
things down. After you meditate, you're not trying to like
block anything out though. Again, like you know, just observe
the feelings you're having and the fact that you're having them,
and then you can, like, you know, think about those.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Like that Australian high jumper in the Olympics right after
every attempt.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
A little little anxiety journal exactly, little. Yeah, All right,
good luck out there, folks. Let's take a quick break
and we'll be back to talk about the ship that
is giving everybody anxiety. We'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
We're back, and we're back and we are back.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
All right, big weekend at the polls, which we will
get to. Also a big weekend in popular culture. You know.
Trump has continued to kind of do what he's been doing,
a lot of rallies, a lot of bragging, a lot
of like violent rhetoric. We'll dig into that a little
bit more tomorrow. Kamala Harris made a surprise cameo on
(20:44):
Saturday Night Live this weekend, appearing as my Rudolph as Kamala.
So they cut my rootoff as Kamala, like is like,
all right, I'm gonna have a sit down with myself
before the speech turned the mirror and wouldn't you know it,
guess who? And I did take off my glasses and
(21:06):
wipe them off and then put them back on. It
was the Kamala Harris. Uh And but I mean Trump
Trump supporters made a good point like this is a
direct ripoff of the mirror sketch that Donald Trump did
with Jimmy Fallon in twenty fifteen, which is a mild
(21:27):
to think, Like I had forgotten that that happened, right,
But Trump wrote that sketch probably and came up with
the idea for it. So that's fucked up that they're
like biting his shit.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Dude. They're always biting his style, dude, they always been
biting Trump style. I mean yeah, I mean this is
also just like a time honored bit form that they
do on the show. Whenever they have a celebrity.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Literally, anytime they have a celebrity on that they've been
doing an impression of, they will do this bit. It's like, yeah,
one of the main genres of S and else.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Now they're stealing, they're fucking biting his style, and they're
they're infecting the voting populace by having this this amazing
appearance in a cold open.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, I don't know that. It was a solid sketch
that seemed to probably accomplish what Kamala Harris was hoping
that the Harris campaign was hoping for. And Trump is pissed,
not not just because they stole his idea for his
ketch with Jimmy Fallon, also because apparently he like that
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there are laws that say that there need to be
equal time provisions, and so next week Donald Trump gets
to be the host of SNL. Is what the law says,
right on time Yeah, so it seems like there was
actually an agreement ahead of time with NBC and Trump
(22:57):
was given a long spot in a NASCAR race, like
ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's that's it, all done, all done. I know, although
everyone was like they're a fucking they're they're trying to
fucking you know, sandbag Trump or whatever. But clearly, as
a broadcaster like NBC, they know the law where they're like, yeah,
if one person has it, you got to offer to
the other. So that just means he got it during
the little the car race, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean Lorne Michaels pledged that note. So earlier in
the election season, Uh, Lorne Michaels had said no candidate
would appear in cameos because of equal time provisions. But
I feel like that was just him, first of all,
interesting to suddenly start start having morals about when candidates
appear on SNL Uh you know when he had Trump
(23:48):
host SN on twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah. Still he's still he's still reeling from that one,
I think.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, but that those rules only say if one candidate
appears on a public broadcast, I not cable the network
to offer the same amount of time to other candidates.
The network, so hence the NASCAR ad being basically finished
like that, you know exactly what the letter of the
law is. But there was this headline that was going
(24:15):
around an FCC commissioner, which I just assumed, because I
don't know the fucking hierarchy of the FCC, I assumed
that this was like the head of the FCC. It
is not, but he claimed. FCC commissioner claims Kamala Harris
SNL appearance violated equal time rule. The FCC commissioner in
this case is Brendan Carr, who isn't exactly an unbiased participant.
(24:41):
He's a Trump appointee who literally penned a chapter of
Project twenty twenty five which prompted House Democrats to call
for an ethics investigation into him. But he's widely perceived
to be a front runner for FCC chairman, which is
the actual head of the FCC if Trump wins. But
that is is not currently his position, and the actual
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FCC weighed in and noted that a Car's comments do
not represent those of the agency, and b the FCC
has not made any determination regarding politically programming rules, nor
have we received a complaint from any interested parties because
again they had already agreed.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They've already worked it out. Yet they already worked it
out nice. Well, look they got to try something. Everything
has to be a scandal at this point. Again, they
have to feed the narrative whenever possible that they will
be right in their attempts to try and do some
kind of extra legal shit to try and return whatever
happens in the election.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So, in the world of actual polling and what people
think is actually going to happen tomorrow, there is a
big poll result over the weekend, the sellser poll or.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Sell jan sells her. I like, I like when people
like to put the initial first initial then so distinguished. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right Jan.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So Jayne is it just Joe Anne? But she just
like doesn't like that name.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, who knows. They're like, okay, it's fine. There were
a lot of Joe Ann's at my school. I went
with jan uh oh was absolutely a period, Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, she was the only person so she she just
does polls in Iowa first of all. So it's like
what I has the weekend started, you know, there were
some good early voting data for Democrats, and people were
like it looks like it could be leaning toward Harris,
like outperforming the polls by quite a bit if the
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early voting data is to be believed. But a lot
of the like polling insider people who just like are
obsessively following every poll were like, let's see what the
sells are poll says, because even though it's just Iowa,
she is highly respected. And the reason she's highly respected
(27:11):
is that back in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, at
this point, like heading into the election, there were no
polls that were showing Trump doing as well as he
did except for her, like she was the only one
because she doesn't We talked last week about this theory
(27:32):
from this guy at Germentum that basically all the mainstream
media polls are kind of herding together around like a
like split right down the middle because they're terrified of
overestimating Harris again, like overestimating the Democrats again. And so
his theory is that like she's actually in a better
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position than the polls are indicating. And the thing that
I kept seeing was people be like, if Harris is
within like five points of Trump, will know that things
are like really in a good position for the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, because it was like a it's a twelve point
swing basically, yes, yeah, from twenty twenty is what she
was showing, right.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Right, So that's the that's the thing, is like you're
looking at how things have changed from one election to
the next. And it came out and Harris was actually
leading Trump by three, which is among likely voters in Iowa,
which again seems it is a small sample size, but
this poll has been able to like predict trends.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
She's been within like a point up to between one
and two and a half points of the actual results.
So like, yep. And this also, I think in the
past got her a lot of flak because in twenty twenty,
everyone was like, dude, Biden's fucking killing it everywhere and
the race was a lot closer than it was, and
her twenty twenty prediction was it was going to be
(29:00):
an R plus seven sort of result in Iowa, and
the outcome was actually plus eight. So she was spot
on people like, this is no, this is this is wrong,
this is wrong. Twenty sixteen R plus seven is what
she predicted, ended up being a plus nine, and that
sort of showed how Trump just tore through the Midwest
and twenty sixteen, and people were like, what the fuck?
(29:21):
So again, I think a lot of people are also
using this to like extrapolate these potential these results with
what could happen in other Midwestern states, because if she's
doing that well in Iowa, they say sort of like
the demographic makeup is very similar to places like Wisconsin
or Michigan, and maybe that means really potentially eight levels
(29:41):
of a blowout at best. But most people seem to
really just be taking this and be like, oh shit,
if this is this is the Selleser poll in Iowa
and we're actually having a Kamala lead, this this just
generally does not bode well for the Trump campaign. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Granted, I just like the so I was on a
real Salzer high on when when it broke on Saturday night,
the come doown is like, Okay, yes, she's been right before.
It's still a very small sample size. And one of
the samples was the Carrie George W. Bush election and
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Bush ended up like outperforming her poll by quite a bit.
And that does feel like that was an election that
felt really close heading in and ended up being really close.
So that like does and and you know, the bad guy,
the war criminal one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I mean, and since then though, she's been on
a run. I think a lot of people pointed out
because like a lot of Republicans are like, oh, let's
look at her. What she thought was gonna happen in
two thousand and four, and it feels like very specific,
like completely ignoring the last twelve ten to twelve years
of predictions and forecasting. But again, I think I think generally,
(30:57):
I think most people feel that just looking at crowd
sizes and just like the wacky shit that's coming out,
it's like, this doesn't feel like a winner. Like in
twenty sixteen, you could kind of be like, I can
kind of see how he's kind of convincing people here.
This has felt like a side show. So I think
combining those sort of things can make it feel a
little bit more possible realistic that Trump could lose, for sure, But.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think it's also understandable that everyone's like, I don't
want to feel good until we have, because.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's the most painful shit is to be like ha ha.
Trump took an l and then he's like, oh did
I And now we're dealing with all kinds of untold horrors.
But look, I think this is great news for everyone
who's just dying to go back to brunch. Thank you, dude,
get your brunch. Rezis fucking locked and loaded, baby.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I was on Saturday night when the pulling results came out.
I was just doing the opposite of doom scrolling. I
was dopamine scrolling. Ohit. And then I was also on
on Rezi making those brunch reservations bro for this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'm gonna be shown a Sunday morning at noon maybe.
But yeah, I mean, this is this has fucked up
a lot of things like now, I mean because this
is again I think the other thing that a lot
of posters have pointed out just generally too, is there's
been a ton of these like partisan Republican polls that
have come out that are showing Trump leads that again
our way that are used to like you know, mess
(32:29):
with the weighted averages to try and again make the
race seem close. Because this also, this is I think
we talked about this last week, is like the double
edged sword of all the like, well we think it's
going to be a tight race, help like absolutely feeds
into the MAGA narrative that if it's this close and
it's a blowout. Something's up.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, if it's close in the polls, or he's up
in the polls, and then yeah, I mean he's already
like that. They're already there was an article in the
Guardian we'll link off too, but they are already being like,
I'm winning in all the polls. It's over. It's going
to be a blowout. They're all going to find out.
So that. I mean, I'm sure partially he's a megalomaniac
(33:10):
who believes that and nobody's willing to tell him that
that's the truth. But the tension is being focused on
like the right wing polling, like small right wing poles
that are like affecting the way to average. But it's
also like the big mainstream media polls are also showing
it as like a dead heat or you.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Know, yeah, well that's because they're cowards.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Right, they don't want to be wrong. I mean, I
don't know. The other like Times Sienna so Selzer and
Times Siann are the two that like have not traditionally
done the hurting thing, and Times Sienna is like much closer.
They have Harris like down in Michigan, and like tide
in Pennsylvania, so still seems like it's potentially going to
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be incredibly close.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But this was Yeah, I mean it feels like anything.
It's not what it isn't going to be as a
blowout in Trump's direction. It's either going to be a
blowout in the Democrats direction or a very tight race.
It's it's not going to be the thing like Trump, Like,
is there some wacky ones with Trump's up three in
fucking Wisconsin? You're like, no, yeah? What?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
He In addition to like citing the polls that have
him up, he said that this poll should be illegal
and called it fake, which it's just it's so long
to still be on the descriptor fake is kind of wild.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I think that's a good sign system should be illegal, like.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Illegal, and yeah, I don't know. It's like the other
thing that some people are paying attention to that I
don't think is even worth coverage, but it is getting
coverage is the betting markets, which are you know, yeah, yeah,
have traditionally been decent barometers, but now they're being a
(35:06):
fact because people are you know, the scientific principle of
like when you start paying a lot of attention to something,
it affects how that thing behaves and performs. Like now
that there's a big story that Elon Musk and Nate
Silver are talking about that where it's like the betting
markets really are good at predicting this stuff. Now everybody's
(35:28):
paying attention to those, and the people who follow Nate
Silver and Elon Musk are putting bets in.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
There was also good good, but yeah, yeah, go ahead,
lose your fucking money.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And those markets suddenly after the cells are poll and
like the Medson Square Garden rally, were starting to shift
back toward Harris a little bit more after they were
like showing a guaranteed blowout. The other big betting market
revelation was there was this mysterious figure who invested like
twenty million dollars, like place twenty million dollar bet on Trump,
(36:02):
and the New York Times finally like you know, revealed
who it was and like interviewed them and it's just
like some rich guy in France.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, and he was thirty million down.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think, yeah, I think yeah, So that's like.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Completely shifted the markets because he dumped in like millions
of dollars.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And in the interview, his read on the election is
just like yeah, he's like, yeah, I don't know. Trump
got underestimated the last two times, so.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I say, yes, sports fan.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Right, it's like just the most basic kind of take,
and maybe the basic take is is right and he
will be underestimated again, but he knows. I mean, I
think people were like, oh, somebody betting that much money
must have some access to some like mysterious inside information,
and it just turned out it was just some rich guy.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You can just be a degenerate gambler with millions of dollars. Yeah,
it could also be true. The other thing that's really
interesting I saw it just with us in terms of
a vote around polling. Carrie Lake, who obviously has had
some terrible luck running for governors in Arizona and is
now running in the Senate against Reuben Diego, like she's
down in all like most of the polls, or like
maybe within a point or two, but she recently just
(37:15):
loved this ques see quote. My internal polling looks good.
We're ahead of my opponent, and I feel comfortable with
our polling. Our polling is a little different. We take polling,
but we also combine it with AI, which reads all
of what's happening on social media and across the internet.
Based on that, she's got some really interesting numbers. She's like,
(37:35):
I'm actually up when when you count in all the
twitter bot responses that are talking positively, I'm actually winning.
So therefore I might have to take another electoral l
But anyway.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Talk to my AI assistant and yeah, they told me
exactly what I wanted to hear, which, by the way,
is frequently the job, the express job of a large
language model is to tell you what it thinks you
want to hear.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I want to endear myself.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back.
We'll talk a little bit more polls, and we'll talk
about a sad farewell to one of the greats. We'll
be right back. And we're back, and Brian the editor,
(38:26):
brought up a good question during our break. What are
the polls for miles? Why they're They're like just there
to tell us what somebody thinks is going to happen
in two days. That's going to happen either way.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And they get the satisfaction of saying and I knew it,
and I knew it, I pretended the future in your face.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're there to create celebrities like Nate Silver that who yeah,
and look at all the good he's done.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I mean he did change polling for sure. But yeah,
like now he's kind of he's a Twilight a bit.
But yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's it's a it's a gigantic industry,
and these are the kinds of things when you know,
when you're considered the gold standard, it means more people
will pay you more money for your your you know,
your forecasting. Although cells are operates in Iowa, but you know,
(39:16):
it's just it's the horse race. It's pretty much that
it's bad.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
It does. It has become something I've been become obsessed
with because of the fact that we have this like
fucking winner take all system. We have like these two
possible futures ahead of us that feel like they could
be starkly different from one another and really similar.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah you cut it, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I would be Yeah, I think early similar. If
Trump still had the same type of people around him
that he did in his first term, I think with
product twenty twenty five, they would be end up being
pret different. And so yeah, it's just human weakness. I
would say it's the reason for the polls. But I
do think a lot of people are struggling with the
(40:10):
what is going to happen of it all? I certainly
am somebody who's struggling with the what's going to happen?
Were they all lying to me? Of it all? Is one?
Donald J. Trump. So he got mad at Julia Roberts
for suggesting that Maga dude's wives can vote for who
(40:30):
they want to vote for and not just like for
who their husband wants them.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
To vote for. What happened to the good old days?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, exactly, But it's just an ad that she voiced.
But I like it because it also I don't know,
I feel like they should have been using this strategy
earlier to attack him from the direction of all the
people he cares most about, which is like people who
were relevant in the late eighties and early nineties.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, he's definitely it's this is him calling in the
Fox and Friends about this, and yeah, he's really disappointed
about it, like in this really sincere way.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I'm so disappointed as Juli you Roberts, because I look
and she's going to look back on that and she's
going to cringe that did I really say that? It
doesn't say much for her relationship. But I'm sure she
has a great relationship. But the wis and husbands that
I don't think that's the way they deal. I mean,
can you imagine a wife's not telling a husband who
she's voting for. Do you hear anything like that? Even
(41:29):
if you have a horrible if you had a bad relationship,
you're going to tell your husband. It's a ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
It's so stupid like marriage, and then your wife's like
being all secret behind your back that that wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
They tell you the truth, even if it's really bad.
Which is a really interesting point. But I do like
the idea of if any like Richard gear To also
do like an ad like that, and you.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Like, has Mike Tyson come out. I feel like he
would be really devastated if Mike Tyson came out and
like talked shit about him, because he's a big boxing
guy and you know he's.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Like Michael Douglas, always a hack. That guy, never liked him,
really disappointed him.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
It was yeah when he called it starts that off,
He's like, because I really love she's gonna be cringey,
like he almost he like stops himself from admitting his
feelings for Julia Roberts.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, anyway, what are you gonna do? I just like
though too. I don't know if you saw the pictures
of Trump and Eric Trump doing early voting at the polls,
and the cameras caught them both peering over the little
barrier to look at what their why their wives, how
they were voting, like in the most suspicious way.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Wife is the fucking head of the RNC.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
This school is literally bent. Eric Trump is like leaning
like it's the fucking smooth criminal video trying to like
look over the fucking divide or to see I think
these pictures really encapsulate potentially what the entire like election
could be. It's about these like these dudes who are
just like what and what are you doing? Better? Be
better to be doing the right making the right choice.
(43:14):
And over here, got to sit right next to me. Yep,
right here. Yep. That that that's not how you spell
Donald Trump. Move up, Yep, there you go, not that one,
not that one.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
He's also like someone who would make it his goal
to sleep with as many of his friends wives as
he possibly could, Like he would like record phone conversations
with his friends and then play back like suspect ship
that they said to the wives to try and like
get them mad enough at their husband to like fuck him.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
I guess wow, wow four d chess right, But like
he seems to understand that women don't tell their husband's everything,
but maybe he assumes it's different with him.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
But like you could just hear it in his voice
and nervous laughter there.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
He knows he's never been in a healthy marriage or
relationship that's like equitable in any way.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
He hes not telling me everything, Like you control.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Everything that they do in their life, and then they
don't trust you. Is that?
Speaker 6 (44:16):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Could you imagine? No way, even when it's really bad,
they would do that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I think we mentioned it last week. But Jesse Waters
similarly like melted down over the possibility that married mega
women would vote for Harris, which.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Like having an affair.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, almost like having an affair, which, by the way,
really uh, he's only married to his wife because he
chooses on his ex wife of ten years with her,
but obviously that goes one way.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
The wife doesn't do it to the husband. Okay, yeah, exactly,
that's weird. The guy should cheat on the girl, that's
I mean that's how That's what my dad taught me.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
All right. And finally we want to say a fond
farewell to one of the greats ever do it Quincy Jones?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yes, one of the true first like black entertainment moguls.
You know, like, this man has the egot, he's He's
dabbled in film, television, music, like fucking everything. You know.
Obviously the thriller is probably the thing most people will
talk about when they talk about him.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
But yeah, it's just correct thriller season, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean, we will always know him
for his wonderful interviews and the wild shit he would say.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I know he was a producer of Fresh Prince.
I didn't realize like how much until I think it
was like one of those interviews where they told the
story about how like he had Will He invited Will
Smith to his birthday party, which sounds like there were
a lot of people there, and then like made him
audition for him and like the NBC executives, he'd never
(45:57):
like acted before. Yeah, and he was like, Hey, we're
gonna do an audition because like I just like know
that you're gonna be good at this. He just like
conjured Will Smith's career out of thin air, just like
based on a vibe that he had like a hunch.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
He's got the gift. He's got the gift. And also
again for sneak sniffing out conspiracy theories and the like too.
Jones a very very gifted man.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, yeah, I got like the last thing. He got
a lot of attention for. And I think people are
treating this as like, you know, uh, you know, let's
not focus on his controversial interviews. But I feel like
his controversial interviews were fucking awesome, Like they were for
the best. They were so good.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, he says, I know too much. Man, What's something
you wish you didn't know?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
What's something you wish you didn't know?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Who killed Kennedy?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Who did it?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Oh, John Conna? The connection was there between the Knocker
and the mafia and Kennedy. Joe Kennedy. He was a
bad man. He came to Frank to have him talk
to John Conna about gift and votes.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I've heard this theory before that the mob helped win
Illinois for Kennedy in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Hey man, you know we shouldn't talk about this publicly.
Where are you from? Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
So where you're from? By the way, In this article
they were talking about how Will Smith was talking about
his first time meeting Quincy Jones and his first So
we go in and he said, where are you from?
I said, I'm from Philly. He said your characters from Philly.
I'm like okay, and then like that's that's all he
needed to hear. He was like, you're gonna be a
(47:33):
massive movie star now. He also talked about dating Ivanka Trump.
You talk about, you know, Marlon Brando, fucking everybody, including
James Baldwin, Richard Pryor, and Marvin Gay.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that was my favorite pivot too, because when
they're like, when they're like, how do you know that,
He's like, come on, man, he did not give a
fuck you like Brazilian music. That was one of my
favorite all time.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Quincy one of the pivots in the history of conversation.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Well, he said, man, he said he fuck anything. He's like, wow,
how do you know anyway like Brazilian music.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, he's the most charming motherfucker you ever met. He'd
fuck anything, anything, He'd fuck a mailbox. James Baldwin, one
of our greatest writers. And think of Ridgard bryorid of
coming to Marvin Gay, one of our great singers.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
He's stuck with them. How do you know that all mailboxes?
Obviously he fucking mailbox like James Baldwin. You know that's right.
Uh yeah, but ninety one, Um, just look Lincy, uh,
rest in peace to you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Absolutely. I'm sure there's a conspiracy theory out there, like
interesting that he revealed those things and now he bosses away. Yeah, okay,
was he vaccinated?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
He was ninety one? Full? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
All right, those are some of the things that are
trending on this Monday morning. We're back tomorrow with a
whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine,
get your blue shot, don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
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