Rhetoric2Hectic? Cryptoberg Address 09.18.24

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yo, yo, I feel like I have to drop my
voice when when you co sleeper deep voice, you got
that baritone as low.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
As you can. Right now, let me go, what's like
the lowest if you did a character voice with the
lowest baritone?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Let me hear okay, cool?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
That was my normal speaking?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Cool cool?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Uh yo?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Whoas god?

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Damn?

Speaker 6 (00:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
And the thing is is this is how my voices
sounded since I was fourteen.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Really yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It was like and it was like literally like over
spring break, like my voice sounded like this, and then
like the over the course of spring break, it just
like balls dropped and immediately like when it came back,
you know, after a Wee Calls.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Show, it dropped so far.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
In the center of the earth, all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
To the other side of the globe. You sounded like
you like you're in that band Yellow Timely reference.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Oh yeah, okay, this is Joe. That was yeah, I
thought that was whoever did Joe? Here?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Joe Joe?

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Hello the Internet and welcome to season three fifty six,
Episode three of Dear Dally's Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and we are
America's only undecided podcast. We're all undecided voters on this
podcast New York.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I don't know if I'm going to go for Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
I don't know. I just need to know more about
his position.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
There needs to be another few debates for me to
like really understand both sides of the issues.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I still don't know what the steaks aren't really clear.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
And if there is no more debates, I'm just gonna
have to vote for Trump. And I'm sorry, It's just
that's it. Guys like you knows he hasn't won me over. Yeah, well,
I just like the letter T.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Just I think his that's it. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's Wednesday, September eighteenth, twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Wow, what a day. It's Air Force Birthday, National HIV
AIDS and Aging Awareness Day. That feels apt consider I
just turned forty over the weekend and National Cheeseburger Day.
Shout out the Noble Cheeseburger.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
We love you, one of the greats. My name is
Jack O'Brien aka Rolling down the street, Crack the windows
slashing in whale brain juice a whack, says my kids
in the backseat, and the brain warm. In my mind,
that is collaboration between how see on salad and you

(03:01):
kurrent do that on television.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah yeah, that's fucking good. That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
That's a bar took two minds. A few people know this,
but the green slime on you carn't do that on
television whale brain juice. A lot of people don't realize that. Yeah,
do you ever eat the green brain sludge from lobster?
You're getting there?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Nah? No, are you supposed to?

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Some people do well when I grab I have Okay, yeah,
it's same, same premise.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
I lived with the Spanish family for a month in
high school and the dad ate the green brain juice
and was like, it's so delicious, so I had to
try it. It kind of tastes good. I don't like
the idea of it, but it kind of tastes good.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
If it was in a shot glass, you could probably
down it easier than being like, oh, you have to scoop.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
And scoop it out of a thing that still has
eyeballs that are yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah judging. Anyways,
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
host mister Miles Grass Miles Gray.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Since my body suddenly turned forty, I've been coughing like politicians.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
I know.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's my mind off, perhaps some subway tune about my
buddies not now less poison.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
I couldn't butterstand.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
How to work it out. Shout out to Halsey and
Salad and everybody with their well wishes. Thank you. Yes,
I have been coughing like a politician, but that's because
I have a child in daycare, and that means I
get to sample all of the illnesses that are happening
in my community, and you know, you just dabble them
over days later. Time. Yeah, exactly, literally and literally a time.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Wait, how do politicians cough? They like cough heart.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'm what are you referencing there, I'm just guessing because
they're elderly.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, That's what I'm gonna go with you. Anyways, Miles,
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
a brilliant TV writer, performed enrolled member of the calat
Indian tribe who's written on shows for Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Dreamwork,
and the Netflix animated series Spirit Rangers. He's the creator
of the brilliant web series Gone Native. Please welcome back

(05:13):
to the show. The Hilarious, the Talented Joey.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Clear Joey Cleft aka my zight Gang. Can't sid enough
of your cast, baby zight Gang. I don't know, I
do know why I'm on the zaly Z Cast. Baby,
Wow dep Okay, let me see Okay, let me see it,

(05:40):
sang oh ship can't sign enough of your guys, Babe
zight Gang. I do know, I do know. Wow, I'm on.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
The daily z Cast.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Shout out to myself that it happens when I'm on
the show. Is that I realized, Oh, I've got to
come up with a parody song about my name.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
What can I sing?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Are you why that's like in my vocal register?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Okay, great, yep.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
You mentioned I did work in Nickelodeons, and I can
confirm that the green Slime from you Can't do That
on television is well rang juice, well, rang juice? Yeah, yeah, Okay,
there's a big whale hanging from the ceiling and yeah, okay, yeah,
it's it's been a live it's been alive for decades.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
It's tortured, really fucked up Nickelodeon. Yeah, yeah, the producer
is there. It's only half the story.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Have you ever gone with the cliff bar? I was,
I'm gonna need to see some I D because you
are entering the cliff bar.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Uh. Oh, it's the cliff bar and not the bar
edible bar like the place that you just I'm just
I'm just.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Riffing here, just connecting a c you know.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I feel like I feel like people have told me
that I should go by like DJ Cliffhanger if I
become a DJ, which hate you know.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
You know, uh, you know esteemed actor Montgomery Cliff.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You know, Okay, So I hear that we're distantly related, Like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
We're okay.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
So like I've heard from some family members that were
distant related. I've heard from other family members that were
not related at all. But he's buried somewhere in I
want to say, New York and only family members can
visit his grave. And part of me has been like
could I just go and like show my idea and
like visit his grave because like I could be like, yeah,
we're cousins or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, do you have any I think he's from like
Omahon originally or something like that.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't know if I have Omaha family.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
He might be he might be fucking They might be
trying to hide the truth from you. Man. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Conspiracy we're going to talk about today.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I wonder if you could pull up, just on the
strength of your last name, be like, are you kidding me?
It's me Joey.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
You know Joey Cliffiff.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know that new sound you were looking for?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh yeah, hey Monty, Yeah, hey Manty know that new
Cliff you've been looking for. You're looking at it.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Well, it's great to have you back, Joey. We're going
to get to know you a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
In a moment.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
First, a couple of the things we're talking about. We
are having a national moment of reckoning. It's time to
change the rhetoric, lower the temperature a little bit on
the rhetoric when it comes to describing Donald Trump as
dangerous in any way according to the right. And I

(08:23):
feel like the mainstream media usually falls for this. We'll see,
but usually they're like, we've got to do better, guys.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's our fault, you know what. I agree with the
right wing outrage mob. It is on us, specifically this podcast.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Yeah, we are here to learn. We're here to listen,
and we're going to try and do better.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
We won't. Yeah, we can use new words, that's true,
we can use better words.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
But we are not. And because we're going to use
new words, we're not able to mention the fact that
they are saying the wildest, most violent shit possible.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Actively.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know, they should be allowed to do that.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
And they should be because they're the ones who getting
shot at and we're not the ones getting shot at.
And if you want to be able to use violent words,
need to get shot at. Sorry, those are the rules.
Those are the rules of engagement.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Those are the rules I just made up to benefit me.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Nobody's even shooting them. It's like not fair. Anyways, we'll
talk about that, and then we'll talk about the other
thing that we're doing to make amends for the fact
that we did say Trump is a danger to democracy
and that led directly to that Elmer Fudds assassination attempt.

(09:42):
We are going to be investing in a new his
new cryptogrift even bigger this time. Yeah, it's it's huge
this time. Guys. You can tell he believes in it
because it's the one thing he's ever done that he
didn't put his name on.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, does that mean he's not excited about us?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Like I can't quite figure out like what it would
take for him to launch something that's not called like
Trump Trumpy Coin or whatever. This one's just called World
Liberty Financial.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's which makes it scarier.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
If it was called like Trump Bucks or something like that,
I would at least get the grift, whereas this feels like, oh,
you're trying to be legit, which makes it seem even sketchier.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah. Yeah, he's trying to win the affections of his
son Baron, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
It also has the name of a shell company, like
a name that seems designed to leave your brain the
second you hear it.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, World Liberty. It's like, yo, how
did who did your car loan? World Liberty Financial? I
think what was your APR in that? Like, I think
sixty four percent?

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Is that bad?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is that good? Yeah? I don't know numbers, it's less
than one hundred. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about all that
plenty more. But first, Joey, we do like to ask
our guest, what is something from your search history that's
revealing about who you are.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
So one thing for my search history that's revealing about
who I am is I googled how to buy food
from a ghost kitchen if any of you know what
a ghost kitchen is. If you go on like grub
Hub or something like that and you're trying to order food,
it's like a second restaurant that's not a real restaurant
that like is also making food out of the back
of a Chuck E Cheese or something like that. So like,

(11:24):
you're probably not gonna want to, you know, grub hubut
Chuck E Cheese pizza, but you might want to grub
hub like you know l pastor mister Pepperino's Pizzaia, and
it's just like Chuck E Cheese Pizza but with a
different name that makes it seem slightly fast. Year, So
mister Beast had a ghost kitchen while we were all

(11:46):
pandemic ing. Yeah, So I googled this while I was
standing in the lobby of an ihop that I thought
was a Philly Cheese steak restaurant, because I was like,
I was just I just really wanted to Philly Cheese
take a couple of days ago. So I just googled,
like you know Philly cheesecak restaurant near me. There was
an I Hoop a few blocks away. I walked over
there being like, okay, is this a Philly cheese steak
restaurant and they were like, no, you have to order

(12:06):
it online and from the app. So I had to
like stand outside and download an app for this Philly
cheese restaurant, Philly cheesecak restaurant for the I Hop to
like make the Philly cheese steak in the back of
the eye hop and then give it to me. It
was just truly one of those things.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
It's just like a Sioux chef's like side hustle or
something that there.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Wasn't signage, so it does definitely feels like it's somebody's
side hustle. And I would say the quality of the
ie Hop Philly cheese steak, you know kind of man, yeah,
get hit.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I look, I ate the whole thing, but it wasso
roll or not.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I mean it was wrapped in a pancake.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, yeah, you gotta go to I mean, like, what's
the I like Booze Booze Philly is probably like one
of the better Philly cheese steaks in La.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Alcohol like sometimes that just has that non sequitor and
we just have that's like a Philly cheese seak.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
You're sweating a lot right now.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Cheese say Grease Goop is.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
A ghost kitchen, right, Goop kitchen or whatever the fuck?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Like yeah, but I mean like there's a ton too
where like a bunch of restaurants will take over a
larger facility and they'll they'll serve like six different restaurants
out of one kitchen. Yeah, there's a spot on Sunset
that is like a yeah ghost kitchen that is just
like you see all these brands and it's all just.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Coming out of the same place. What I think it's
like called me old fashioned, but it's like this was
definitely a situation where I was like, Okay, I just
want to like walk and get a Philly cheese steak
and leave. And it was just so like I totally
get it, you know, like having store friends expensive, but
it was just like going to an ie hop and
like not being able to find a Philly cheese steak
place was so disheartening and then finding out that was
the Philly cheese stick, yes, right, and I couldn't order

(13:48):
it from the eye hop. I had to like download
an app was like so annoying. Yeah, a lot of
adding insult to injury. Oh yeah, yeah, Like fine.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Not only is this? Not only is this I hop
your Philly cheese steak is gonna come from. We can't
even take your order like a normal.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Not in Philly.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
It's and when you come in you say I would
like a seat at your International House of Pancakes please,
and we will know that that means.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Philly to drop.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Like how did you pick up your order? Was it
just there at the front, like at the hostess stand.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, so it's like so I went to the front
and I was just like, is this like I think
it's called like, oh my cheese steak or something like
that's what the restaurants come And you said it with
the proper I did say. My voice did go up
when I said it. Yes, yeah, so you know, I
was like, is this is not my cheese steak? And
they were like yes, but like also no, And I
was like yeah, you give me and they were like

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and they were like, you got to order it from
the app outside, okay. I like just sat down in
his eye off and waited for like ten minutes and
then they're like very discreetly gave me a Philly cheese steak.
They didn't like calm my name. It just like on
the side, which is the Cury go get out.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Don't even I like. I like that. They're like, yeah,
you got to order it outside though, Yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Jesus so judgy. What is What's something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Something I think is underrated? So this is gonna be
a hot take. I recently ate at waffle House for
the first time, and waffle house so underrated, Like probably
one of the best places I've ever eaten in my life, truely,
Like I mean, like, so I spent a lot of
time because it's there's not a waffle house in southern California.
I was in like Atlanta for a thing, and I

(15:37):
think I just got sort of the classic like pecan
waffle and then I like and then I got like
basically what all my friends suggested, which was like hash
browns with a bunch of different stuff on it, and
like there's a specific way that you order it. Order
a waffle house, you say, like my hash bounds like smothered, chunk, spicy,
smothered or whatever. I did not know that, so I
went to the front counter, and I was like, hello,
I would like hash browns with Jalapino's, a little bit

(16:00):
cheese and some ham please, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, kitchen, They're like, yo, the fens are here.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah. It was also it was perfect first waffle house
experience of like I walked in the door. Immediately the
person working the counter said like, chef ain't here, like
and it's like food won't be ready for thirty minutes,
so like sit down and wait. So we like sat down,
waited for thirty minutes, and then like the chef walked
in for sure, like with a sick in their mouth

(16:25):
that they like flicked into a trash can and immediately
started making the best waffles I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know, it's that sausage gravy. Whenever I go.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Sausage gravy, just syrup butter. It's like like it's truly
like it's just if you've never eaten a waffle house before,
like treat yourself. And it's also like ten bucks, it's
very cheap.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
So you went peppered, you went chunk.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah yeah, so I think I went pepper chunked, smothered.
Yeah that sounds very It was like halpino.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yeah, smothered is sauted onions. Covered is melted America onions
into Yeah, chunked, which is my favorite. It's just the best.
You don't get to say chunked in any other context.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Unless I chunk my pants.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Chunk some grilled hickory smoked hand. That's the context about
four hours later, And that's being generous. Dice some green
grilled tomatoes for juice. I like that they say that specifically,
it's grilled tomatoes for juice, peppered with the helpeo peppers,
capped shrooms. That's one of my favorites. And then topped
with Bird's chili. Goddamn hungry right now, country with sausage

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gravy port to top. Could you imagine putting getting a
covered topped country?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, man, I mean I think that, Like that's the
thing whenever I'm in a place with a waffle house now,
like my girlfriend and I make it a habit of
just or just like saying random words at the hashpin
order and be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Let's get it, let's go something the old waffle house
roulette here.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah. Another thing that I think is underrated is voting.
Maybe that's the thing that people should do.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
You actually threatened the presence. Yeah, you're on a Yeah,
you're voting for who. You turned the temperature down with
that voting ship. You are threatening his political career and
by extension, his life. What is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Something that I think is overrated? Actually, I'm gonna say
semi related to that. I was in Dallas a couple
of days ago, and I was at the place where
JFK got assassinated, like the depository or whatever.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Love the smiling your voice.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it was like I was in
there for like for a separate trip, but I was like, oh, well,
I'm a Dallas you know, I'll see the sites and
it's it's just very it's very interesting how much it
has turned into like a tourist location. Like literally the place,
like the location that his car was where he was shot,
there's just an X spray painted on the ground, and

(18:52):
like for sure there were tourists, like and it's like
it's a street. It is a busy road that goes street. Yeah,
so there are people that were like running from the
street to jump onto the X where JFK got shot
so they could snap the selfie and then run back
to the sidewink before you get by a car.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Oh shit, I wonder how many people have been hit
by cars there.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I mean like in the twenty minutes I was there,
I saw like six close cars, so we're thinking at
least one. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
I remember going there when I was a kid, and
there was it was you know, there's the official museum
like up at the Book Depository.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
And then there's like an When I went there, there
was like an unofficial thing that kind of seemed like
it was like a news stand and it was like
people selling their own conspiracy theory like zines.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Oh yeah, I sure that was still there.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
That was still there, still there, that's amazing. Wow.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
And it is so interesting being there seeing how like
close together everything is, because I feel like you've never
been there. It's like you don't get a sense of like, oh,
Zach Rutter when he shot the footage was like maybe
like ten feet from like where JFK was. You know,
like the grassy knoll was like half a basketball, Like
it's like a basketball half court length away. You know, like, yeah,
you're just very it's like it's a very like contained area,

(20:12):
but it is just funny. It's like I feel like
people look at like the like the Titanic, how you
can get like giant inflatable slides of the Titanic now
that you can like set up its theme parks and stuff.
People are like, people are like, oh, that was like
a tragedy where thousands of people died. That's like weird
that that's like a thing kids play on now. And
it's like you go to the JFK assassination site and
you're like, oh, it's like ninety percent of the way

(20:33):
there right right.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yeah. I wonder how long it will be until there
are like nine to eleven themed rides like where it's
like the towers are falling like everybody, you know what
I mean, like everybody else? Can you get out of
the building like before I think in our like seventies, Yeah,

(20:57):
I think it'll be like when we're dead. Probably.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
It's like you go to like you go to like
Fort's Theater in Washington, d C. Where like Abraham Lincoln
got assassinated, and straight up across the street there's like
a pancake house themed after Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, it's just like, oh,
the tragedy has been raised from this now it's just
like I don't know, like a place to buy like
T shirts.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right, yeah, right, yeah. I think just like I remember
I said a tweet a few weeks ago or someone
was something like I think we're far enough away or
they'll be like nine to eleven sales, Like it's yeah,
I feel like that that's probably the first that's our
first step on our way to full on inflatable twin.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Towers naturals sales, and then inflatable twin towers like bounce
houses that have like giant inflatable twin towers that you
can like jump off of.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah. The yeah, hey, I get on it.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, we're just pitching ideas, you know, somebody wants to invest.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
The how close everything is is truely is pretty staggering,
and it does drive home something about that assassination that
I think is relevant to the asassination attempts that we're
seeing today with Trump, where like he JFK they wanted
to put a top on the car because they're like,

(22:09):
you're going through an area that's gonna be like incredibly dangerous.
There was like somebody who took out an ad that
was like kill like basically saying you're an enemy to
the nation and like it would be treason as not
to kill you, essentially, and he was just like nah,
and basically they like.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
He want to live.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah. It was like the first stop on his re
election campaign, and so he was higher status than the
Secret Service in a way that I don't think is
usually true of presidents. Like he was both president and
like cool celebrity, and so they're just like, oh, damn JFK,
you're the man, you know whatever, Like they all like
went out. He said, he said, he's crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
You know what he said. He said, like Maryland, you
know what that means? Topless baby.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
But it was so wild, like the shot was not
that difficult of a shot. Yeah, It's like it's like
you fucking there. Well, it's like you.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, you go, you go to the Like this is
why like I'm a I don't know, like I'm kind
of a history buff. It's like I like kind of
whenever I travel, I like like check out places like this,
and it's like, yeah, you go there, and you really
do get a sense of like, yeah, that's not that
hard of a shot. It's like it's like people, look,
I played counter Strike, Like I don't know, it's just
it's yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Like so it's it

(23:29):
just kind of feels like, oh yeah, it's like an
it's like six floors up. It's like a pretty much
straight shot. And it's like the way the road is
set up is it's like, oh, it's like it's like
a straight he's driving like straight from the background to
the foreground, if that makes sense. It's like it's like
he's driving in a lot. So it's like, I don't
know anybody that's a conspiracy theorist. It's like if you
go to that place, it's like, yeah, it's like probably

(23:49):
not a conspiracy there.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Literally said that day, like, man, if someone wanted to
shoot us from a window, we'd be sitting ducks.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Like JFK said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah his last thing,
last quote. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
I think the same with like Trump, Like he likes
to golf and he's this larger than life personality who
just like always wants to be out and not you know,
I'm sure he's a very difficult person to like argue with.
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I mean like so that basically sounds like it's
to the point where you have to put hands on
him if you want to stop him, Like just like
with January sixth, when he tried to hop over and
take the wheel of like the suburban. Oh right, Like, yo, bro,
we let you cook enough. Bro, Now I have told you.
I'm sorry, dude, I don't mean to put hands on you.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
But no, yeah, so I don't. Yeah. I just think
the Secret Service is both very limited compared to like
what we've seen in movies. They're not this like fully
buttoned up team of like you know, experts. And also
sometimes they just like will be persuaded by the thing
that the like big personality that they're supposed to be

(24:54):
guarding is like telling them, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Because ultimately it's like JFK and Trump and Pop like
they're the Secret Services boss. So it's like if it
is kind of a like if JFK says like, oh,
I want to have a convertible, they can't say like sorry, sir.
I mean they could say, hey, that's dangerous, but they
can't stop him.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
You know, Hey that's dangerous. Here's why. And he's just like, hey, honey,
I'm not sitting duck here. Anybody could shoot me from
the hotel windows. Yeah, moving on, Jesus, all right, let's
take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
about the new rules for talking about politics.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
We'll be right back, and we're back and new rules. Well, Jesus,
my favorite shelt Sorry, I don't mean to rip off

(25:51):
my favorite comedian, Bill Maher, but there's some new rules.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hell yeah, do.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
You want me to do a deep voice drop? And
you say that, you say new rules, and I say,
like new rules, the new rules.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
But yeah, I think rather than calling for like actual
reforms that would make the country safer and by extension,
donald Trump himself even safer, the right is now just using,
like take the thwarting of another would be assassin to
say that it's the Democrats are actually totally at fault here.
This is all on them. They keep saying Trump is

(26:27):
a danger and a threat to our democracy. That's just
how these things happen. You keep saying words like that,
and people will try and do bad things to Donald
Trump the campaign. The campaign even released like a long
list of receipts to prove it. They're like Kamala Harris quote,
Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms

(26:48):
Joe Biden, it's time to put Trump in a bull's eye.
I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Trump
is a threat to this nation. Then they have just
everyone Tim Walls, Gwen Walls, Nancy Pelosi. It goes on
and on and on, and everyone's just talking about like, yeah,
he's a destructive force to our democracy and you know,
like we cannot with this man should not be near
office at all.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
And so Gwen, they have Gwen Walls saying bye bye
Donald Trump. Yep, yeah, and by.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
The threat heard just didn't bleep that because I don't
want to show bye bye bye bye by Donald old
David bye Jesus by Yeah, bye bye bye bye.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Now what that is? That is truly wild that they're
like And she said that immediately after firing the shot,
like that's the only.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Way that that would be.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
She was holding an AK forty. She was saying yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Immediately before lit up a twelve pack of Trump beer cans. Right.
But then they have like other stuff and they put
like disgraced Harris Stafford, like they're putting modifiers in front
of people's names, just like in front of a quote.
But anyway, this is them proving look how many times
people accurately described how Donald Trump at a destructive force

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to political.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Norms in the United States, So they did slide one
in there. Representative Dan Goldman did say he is destructive
to our democracy and dot dot dot. I don't know
what they removed there. He has to be eliminated, which
does feel rhetorically like the sort of thing that you
would get called out on in the Democratic Party as
like being, I don't know, that seems over the line, man,

(28:31):
what are you the fucking terminator. We're just like trying
to win an election here, And they like I've seen
this quoted on social media, people being like he said
this right after the assassination attempts. In fact, he said
this back in twenty twenty three and immediately got in hot,

(28:52):
got in shit, and like had to apologize like right away.
It was like, oh, he's like, no, no, no, I misspoke.
I didn't mean that. But that is the bait and
switch they're doing, like.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, many things like this, And that's
also here from JD. Vance, who has a warning for
all of us about our words and the power of
our words.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Is this the quote where he calls Trump America's Hitler.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh no, no, that was earlier. That was not his own,
or that his own rhetoric that compares him to actual
despotic leaders. But anyway, not to say that Trump isn't.
But here's Senator JD.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Vance and I know it's popular on a lot of
corners of the left.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I think this sound. It just fucked me up so bad.
It was like a bunch of mosquitoes. It's just a
lot of humming. Sorry to my audio engineers out there.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
The main audience for JD. Vance speeches is swarms of bugs.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like Jesus, It's like, what's going on, dude.
It's like I only see this when there's a dead
body around.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
They use that high pitched wine that like scares teenagers away.
There's yeah, don't there should be no genum with it here.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
No, No, okay, go on, JD that we have a we.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
Have a both sides problem. And I'm not gonna say
we're always perfect. I'm not gonna say that conservatives always
get things exactly right. But you know the big difference
between conservatives and liberals is that we have no one
has tried to kill Kamala Harris and.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Was he going to say, we haven't tried to kill
we haven't tried to turn that bone on mister. Let's
see that Freudian slip one more time. Is that we
have no one has oh.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Jesus, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
Yeah, a couple of months and two people now have
tried to kill Donald Trump in the last couple of months.
I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs
to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this
crap out.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I think what's really funny too, is like just because
someone obviously this these people had a lot of issues,
but it just really was like, well, if they're against Trump,
then they're a liberal, Like.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh, like both people like vote for Trump.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yes, yeah, and you know the latest guy like you know,
he gave donations to like Act Blue. So they're like, yeah,
there's just guys definitely like a Democrat or whatever. But
when you look at sort of like the totality of
what he has said and his actions are like, I
don't even know what bucket you put this guy in
at all.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
He was just all time dipshit. This guy Ryan whatever,
Ruth Ralph, Yeah, Ryan Ralph, worst assassin name of all time. Sorry,
I just it sucks. Ryan.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
You hear John Wilkes Booth, Yeah, exactly like John Wilkes
Booth like born for it.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
You know what a name for an assassin? Ryan Ralph,
Like you should be a D three quarterback or something
like yeah, yeah, but it's not too late. How many
years eligibility you got? Man, He's like militaristic in his
pro Ukrainian stance, like in the in Going There, Yeah,

(31:51):
Going He went there and was like, now, I recognize
you might not want me as a fighter because I
have no military expertise or experience. And they were like, yeah,
let me cut you off there, No, we don't want you.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
And I think they were even like talk tried to
talk to law enforcement because they were so put off
by this guy.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Everyone that this guy deals with like just got the
wildest Like they were just like he's scary. What an
arresting officer who like arrested him for having a weapon
of mass destruction a gun that he had modified to
be a full automatic.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Gun that he welded together to make five guys.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Like Barrel winted in all directions made super gun, pulled
him over and he like tried to scramble to hide
it because he like had it in the front seat
with him for something with.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
A wig on it. Yeah, she's fine, She's just a
little tired.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Yeah, but the arresting officer said she thought he would
be either dead or in prison by now. She added,
I had no clue that he had moved on and
was continued doing his escapades. And then somebody who worked
for him at his roofing business told The Independent that
her former boss had quote a local reputation for doing

(33:10):
stupid shit.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
I mean, I wanted to see a bullet list of
what that stupid shit is.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
I mean, like we know, on the international stage, like
once he contacted Kim Jong un and invited him to
go to Hawaii on a vacation and offered to be
his like liaison there with like no context.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Dude, you are not Dennis Rodman. You are not Kim
Jong Un. A'm pulling up for you. Yes, only only
the worm.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
But yeah, I mean he's just the exact sort of
impressionable dummy that makes the ability to get a gun
at at any time in the United States so dangerous.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Sure, but I also feel like this is I mean, like, yeah,
like the rhetoric's hot for sure for both sides, you
know you but it's like yeah, yeah, it's hot. But
it's like I feel like part of it is that
Trump is so like usually I feel like when presidents travel,
they're very careful, right, It's like there's a level of

(34:12):
like allowing secret Service, like knowing where you're going, allowing
for Secret Service to like, you know, scope applications, and
it's just a very It's like it's just like a
process for a president to visit a place. And I
feel like Trump is just a guy that kind of
does whatever he wants in such a way that it's like, yeah,
he probably just five minutes before golfing was like I
want a golf that that you know, that golf courus
and that's what happened. Yeah, And then it's like there

(34:33):
wasn't really time for the proper procedures of Secret Service
like checking the place.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
And even though I mean like they but they caught
him five hundred yards away from Trump. He wasn't even
in the line of sight, Like Trump wasn't even the
line of sight of this guy. And did the guy
fire shots? No, he didn't fire one. No, I think
secret Service fired at him. Yeah, but this guy.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
That's interesting because the way it's being reported, even in
the watch is that there were shots fired and like
the secret and yeah, it's exactly the same as the
fucking NYPD thing on the subway, where they're like there
was an officer involved like shooting, and two officers were
wounded by an armed fair jumper and it was like

(35:13):
a disturbed person who didn't pay their fare and had
a knife, and then the NYPD showed up and like
started shooting each other, and they're like they make it
sound like it was a person, an armed person shooting
on the subway, and only shooting on the subway was
the NYPD.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I think I just by definition, Trump is a threat,
meaning a person that has the potential to cause harm.
Like that's just by the very definition of it. I
don't think again, taking lessons from this group on rhetoric
is like useful at all. And I don't think, yeah,
for me to run down like a lot of people
are obviously gonna run down all the time, Trump had

(35:52):
like truly violent and dehumanizing rhetoric that he uses. So
my response to this is like, Okay, yeah, like try
something like a new fucking angle, Like I think the
people on the right actually in visional world where like
those who don't conform to their definitions of American or
normal would have some kind of violent repercussions, so they
don't understand anything like nuance or whatever, because again, it's

(36:15):
not even about what they know or don't know. They
just found a moment where suddenly the scales are kind
of tipping in their favor because there's someone it was like,
aiming to try and do harm to Trump that they
can go, Okay, now we can use this to be like,
oh my god, you guys are so bad. You guys
are so bad. It's not about us anymore.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, it feels like it's like such a political gotcha
kind of thing where it's just like it's like not productive,
you know. And it also does oline like how have
you have a threat? Like, you know, Trump is too
a lot of this stuff. So, you know, I think
that my two cents on this are gonna be summed
up in a little quote from Gwen Walls. But bye, Donald, Sorry,

(36:50):
I didn't mean to say hate speech like that.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Sorry, by at the voting booth, Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
We're gonna tell him bye bye. Huh.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Yeah, I do think it's probably worth acknowledging the violence
of his rhetoric in response to the assassination attempts and
the fact that he is making it like blaming it
on the Democrats, which takes it into this context of
like there's already essentially a civil war happening, and they're

(37:18):
like trying to kill me.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
It dot dot dot.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
It just feels like we've, like what led heard, a
new very dangerous situation because.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Of that, rather than we don't have like firearms Lucy's
hanging all around the country for people.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, it's like you look at there was that like
Elon Musk tweet like, I want to say a couple
of days ago, who like Elon Musk, clearly want of
Trump's advisors, you know, where he essentially said something the
effect of like people should start assassinate trying to assasinate
Kamala or something.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Did not Joey, Joey not fair. He didn't say that.
He was like, gosh, nobody's even trying to assassinate them.
You're right, saying no, he didn't sing.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
You, yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. He was being blew
off the handle there. You should say bye bye to me.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Joey bye bye on that way.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh no, let's bring in our next guest since Joey. No, sorry,
we're going what we're saying about the Elon thing.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, I don't know, it's just it's just a dangerous
as ship. Well, I mean, but they're just you know.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
If we're talking about words that end up in violent outcomes,
look at the people in Aurora, in Springfield, OHI you
know what I mean, Like there are people talking about
how like they're getting harassed, they're getting their shit vandalized
by people because people are so there's a poll. Again,
polls are like whatever, but a lot of the respond
the Republican respondents over fifty percent, were like, yeah, I

(38:41):
probably believe that these immigrants are eating pets, and you're
like right, and then that which said that they made
up Yeah, right exactly. But again it's like so just
like miss me with this, someone is gonna get hurt. Bullshit,
Like these things are already happening and we're already ignoring them, like,
you know, pretty consistently. So like think about even that

(39:04):
mass shooting that was in El Paso during the Trump administration, right,
and he was talking about we got an immigrant invasion
coming and all this stuff and all this like like
fear mongering that that killer was like echoing that immigrant
invasion rhetoric like in his own communication, So what like
what what are you actually talking about it? This is
just an embarrassingly weak attempt to appeal to people's decency

(39:27):
from a group of people that have never extended that
kind of grace to fucking anyone. So it reaks a desperation.
And when like the when the people whose whole brand
is we don't give a fuck if what we say
is true or not, and if it actually gets people
hurt to suddenly cry about it, like to cry about
out of control rhetoric, come on, like this is just

(39:47):
you tried this in July. Also, and people have the
same feeling where they're like, this is really rich coming
from you.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well yeah, and it's also it's just it's it's rough
to hear this kind of response from the same group
of people who saying stuff like, oh, school shootings are
just a fact of life, you know, you just got
used to them, Like it just feels like, oh, you're
not enraged about that, Like you're only enragement affects to you,
or when you feel like you can use it for
political when right.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I mean, look, if the media wants to cave to
this fake outrage, I think we can come up with
a whole list of alternatives to threat or danger that
would also work, like legit criminal, sexual predator, has mushroom dick, racist,
creepiest father in America? Oh yes, yeah yeah, no no

(40:33):
cap no cap some some cap mostly cap. But you
know what I mean, Like, well, we'll see like where
this goes. I know there everyone's looking to maybe Thursday
when Kamala does a sit down with Oprah to see
how if there'll be any like direct response. But again,
like this just feels like when the way JD. Van's like,

(40:54):
we got to knock this stuff off, like quit quit
describing how bad he is for this country, because gonna
get someone hurt. Your basically saying like can you guys
like stop your like campaigning, stop did you stop talking?
Can you just let us tell people how much our
candidate sucks?

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Yeah, it's not just like it's not right, like why
you'll pass I Matt shooting is really unbelievable thing that happened,
and nobody really stopped to be like that he said
those things. This person listened and went and killed twenty
two people like it. It's amazing that it didn't cause
the mainstream media to even like really blink or like

(41:32):
change how they talked about this shit.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
There's just like, yeah, that's it. I'd say the media
does a really good job of ignoring terrible rhetoric from
every from every angle. So it's like, again, JD Vance,
I know things are hard right now, Dude, he just
did it. He's he's speaking right now as we record this.
He is saying already, I'm just let me just play
a couple just gems already that he's saying, he's doubling

(41:54):
down on Haitian migrants. Look at this guy, I think
he needs a geography lesson. Listen to where Haitian immigrants
come from.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
Because over the last few years, twenty thousand migrants, primarily
from Haitia have been dropped into Springfield.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I'm sorry, hey, that was gonna be my joke answer
of where I thought he was going to say.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
There, wow, JD One more.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Just for the kids and merrily from Haitia have been
dropped into Springfield or Highs.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Okay, yeah, so shout out all my back in Haitia.
And then then he also said this, he's talking about
RFK Junior. And then just as another slip, just doesn't
know who he's talking about. Here's him talking about RFK Junior.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
I mean, we're very proud on our side to have
the support of Bobby Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
And he's a great guy.

Speaker 7 (42:40):
I've gotten known very well over the last few weeks.
But I think in many ways, this country never healed
from the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
All right, K no, that I don't even know about
that ship.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Hey, we're the pre cogs from Minority Report at right now.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, really fast news cycle that that wasn't covered.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Holy shit. But anyway, so just very I.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Think the Bear did it. I think it was the
Bear of the.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Absolutely came back from the grave. All right, let's take
a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
an exciting investment opportunity. We'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
We're back.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
And just when you thought the Trump campaign couldn't get
any class, here, he has launched a new crypto project.
Yes he so. First he did a state of Crypto
address on Twitter. Oh it's so good, which you know,
we would have also accepted Tales from the Crypto or
the cryptos Burg address, but oh the State of the

(43:57):
Crypto address. The project is called World Liberty Financial, which
is for your lives, yes, truly run for your lives,
like designed not to be able to be remembered by
anybody who hears that word combination. It will be a

(44:18):
crypto banking platform where the general public will be encouraged
to borrow, lend, and invest in crypto.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Well, World Liberty Financial. That feels like you we would
go into an AI platform and you just type like
real sounding bank, yeah, the fourth one, or.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
They're like what gives me the best like seo protection
and that is so nebulous that if you searched World
Liberty Financial and be like, you can't fucking nail it.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Down, baby, sounds like a bank from like an eighties
action movie that has like the guitar music is just
like ripped from like you know, like the most generic
right right right, yeah, yeah exactly, just like anyways. When
asked the so, Trump promoted the endeavor on the far

(45:08):
right YouTube channel Real America's Voice Yeah, and it kind
of seemed like he has no clue what the fuck
crypto even is because he was asked the question why
is it so important for Americans to lead in cryptocurrency
adoption and innovation? And he responded with a lot of sentences. Yeah,

(45:29):
so we'll give him that. You know, he gets a
point for number of sentences and words that he responded with.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
And it's wild because the question is an absolute softball
that you can prepare for for the launching of your
grifty crypto trading space. And here, let's just hear because
hearing him, you're like, oh, this fucking guy. You can
almost kind of see on the reactions of the guy's
faces who know about crypto, they're like, what the fuck
is this?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
The question I have for you, following up on what
was asking earlier, is why it's so important for America
to lead in cryptocrency adoption and innovation?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Oh, come on now, it's AI.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
It's so many other things, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
AI speaking of an interesting future. It needs tremendous electricity
capability beyond.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Anything I've ever heard. It never made sense to me,
but this is what it needs.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
If you take all of the electricity, doesn't even matter
because he just started talking about AI and energy. Immediately,
I'm saying, let him cook.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Thank you. Now, Okay, that sounded stupid, but if you
played the won't.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Won't oh oh under that answer, it would probably work
a lot better.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
He went on to say, they want to build them
for the AI and it's very important, but you need
tremendous electric and in this country because of our strong
environmental impact statement problems that we have, you know, China
doesn't have those problems.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
So just a.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Coherent statement that let them know they are are in
good hands with his.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Cryptom Sorry, sir, the question was is this your handwriting?
He said When he said, it's funny because the question
was why is it so important, he just goes, it's crypto,
it's a I.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
What wait No, that's.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Actually the beginning of his response, why is this important?

Speaker 5 (47:20):
Ai? Ai?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Almost speaking of AI.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
There was this really great, like I think Nate Silver
quote after the debate last week that was something of
the effect of, like the day after the debate, the
cost of the price of bitcoin went down, which tells
me that Trump probably lost the debate.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Right yeah, just.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Literally he's like said, he's like so in bed with
crypto right now that it's just like if he does
badly or says something dumb prices go down, right.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, it sounds like they're very sensitive. A lot of
the people that he was talking to another crypto Trump
fans are like, oh shit, what is he doing right.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Now with this whole thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
So it's so sketchy that even Trump supporters and crypto
guys have called it a quote huge mistake. That is
quote of the goodwill that's been built with the industry
so far. Okay, okay, okay, again, amazing that he's not
putting his name on the product, the first product I've
ever heard of him being like in any way affiliated

(48:19):
with that.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
He didn't like this was a group effort, right, truly, truly,
it's a Trump Boys.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
It's the Trump Boys.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Baby them Trump Boys there, godam Trump Boys, Donald Junior,
Eric Trump and introducing Baron Trump are all he they're
saying like he was the brain trust behind it or
it was like his idea. He's an actual teenager.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah. I think he's been watching too much like red
pill YouTube videos that he's like, Dad, we gotta do crypto,
please please. He's like you you spoke to me. He's like, no,
let's make a crypto a trading platform for us.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
This is a huge mistake. Nick Carter, a Trump supporter
and founding partner of the Crypto focus venture capital firm
Castle Island Ventures, told Politico it looks like Trump's inner
circle is just cashing in on his recent embrace of
crypto in a kind of naive way. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Great, Yeah, it turns out.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
And then so they've like been talking about this and
like kind of fumbling the rollout of it, and so
that has allowed scammers to kind of come in and
invade the platform before it's ready. And so it's just
rife with people scamming, Like Laura Trump and Tiffany Trump's
accounts have been targeted.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, and people are just making just fakeass accounts on Telegram,
acting like this is the official World Liberty Financial Telegram
channel or whatever, and they're just gonna fun.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Well, if you would just listen to the Trump brothers
who have warned their followers to quote avoid scams, I mean,
good advice in this large scam that we've.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Like most scams, some scams are good.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Not our scam.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Don't avoid that one no, no, no embrace hours.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
The other's aid scams that don't give us money.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Yeah, we we have two new characters. So they're working
with two guys named Chase Harrow or a hero h
R ro o. It's Jachery.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I've seen his name spelled two ways because like this
guy related to Tyler, but yeah, I've seen it spelled
h e r O. And then some of the reporting
had put the double R because maybe they're like heat
fans and like they're just like heroes. Not a last name,
I know, Harrow, but anyway.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
And then Chase Hero comes alone.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I just love that. Chase Arrow offers a onety nine
dollars a month get Rich Quick class. That's like a
good deal for a get rich Quick class.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
I mean, like the amount you're gonna be making after this.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Dude, you're gonna be gonna get rich.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
You're gonna be driving home from the last class in Lambeau,
So why don't you stop naive? So he sold weed
weight loss colon cleanses, uh, the aforementioned get Rich Quick class,
and you can kind of see why Trump likes this guy.
He claims to be a billionaire with a track record

(51:15):
of crypto success while having been involved with just one
crypto project called do Finance, which at least that's memorable.
That attracted three point two million dollars in total activity
and was immediately like just like taken down by massive
scams that it got hacked.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
For about two million. Oh that project.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Look that's still a one point two million dollar profit. Yeah, yeah,
million losses.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
I'm sure it was hacked by him, Like, yeah, yeah,
I don't know what happened. He's described himself as the
dirt bag of the Internet and claimed that regulators should
kick shit heads like me out. Great eighteen video about
crypto he bragged that you can literally sell shit in
a can, wrapped in piss covered in human skin for

(52:05):
a billion dollars if the story's right, because people will
buy it, which might be the best description of the
crypto industry I've ever heard. He's very honest. It's wild
that he is still involved in the crypto industry after
being on the record saying that I wonder if he
does this though too, to like avoid legal liability.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
How some scammers be Like, well, I said, I I
tell people I'm a sac I said, I said, I'm
the dirt bag of the Internet. I said regulators should
kick shit heads like me out. Yea, so defense.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
The last quote that I read about that you can
sell any bullshit shit in a cam wrapped in piss,
covered in why, covered in human skin?

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I guess I'm curious about how would it be because
you don't you can't wrap something in piss.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Yeah, he's I don't think that it was that well
thought through and to wit. He did say that in
a video recorded as he drove in a rice. So right,
he said, I'm not I'm not going to question the
right and wrong on all that. The other guy, Frokman,
registered Quote Date Hotter Girls, LLC, which is a website

(53:15):
that's home to insightful articles such as fourteen reasons your
shirt is cock blocking you and also five hobbies that
get girls, including quote, music and sports. I just love that.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
This guy's like, if you were to come up with
just like the perfect like stereotype of like two thousands
hustle quote culture, bro, it's like this guy, you know,
little dipshit.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
What it's like?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
What like I guess it's like Trump is. If Trump
is the stereotype of sleazy nineteen eighties millionaire, this guy
is the stereotype of like two thousand and eight sleezy millionaire.
In a way that's like no kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
It's like I just like rather than like hawking my
wares to like desperate people are trying to get out
of poverty. I sell it to like men who have
been on a wayward journey of like self actualization seeking companionship,
and I just milk them for a lot. This one
article three tips to dating women in your social circle,
which is like a fucking red flag City are Right,

(54:16):
says casual is key. Being casual and nonchalant is always
important when trying to get hook up with girl. What
with when trying to get hooked up with girl? Yo,
AI wouldn't even do this shit. However, it is even
more important when dealing with girls in your social circles too.
Show don't tell when interacting with a woman you just
met at a bar type Wait, is this your social circle?

(54:38):
If it's someone you just met.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Does this guy have friends? I'm not sure this guy's friends.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Yeah, And then he has a number of interactions with
people who he impresses with some various matrices that are
have been deemed appealing, such as doing music and doing sports.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Wow, I really want to google is fourteen reasons your
shirt is cock blocking you lists?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yeah, I mean it's like one, it's not Dan flashes too,
it's not Dan Flash. Three, it's not Look, it's just
it's not Dan Flashes.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Okay, I'm going to look at what is number? What
is number six? I'm just gonna pick a random one.
Tucking in a T shirt. Never, under any circumstances tuck
your T shirt into your pants. Women do not want
to date a ninety sitcom star.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I don't know. People love Jeremy Allen White wearing a
nice tucked in Calvin Klein T shirt right now, So
I don't.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I don't know where you got that.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
One's working out for him.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Number twelve too busy, keep it simple?

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Ah, no you need this guy doesn't understand Dan Flashes clearly.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Number four graphics. Wait what T shirt? Do they want
you to wear? Just white T shirt?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
It says, okay if one one is too big, two
too small, three wrong color, four graphics, five wrong setting, six,
wrinkly seven tucking in a T shirt? Eight tucking in jeans?
Does that that feels completely redundant?

Speaker 5 (56:03):
No, there they were just like the number fourteen is
our target for the story.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Number Number fourteen is just the word neck. Yeah you
got a neck, say goodbye to sex.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Holy shit. Then nine is just stains. Yeah sures.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Wait what I'm not supposed to wear a stained T shirt?

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Sweat, mud, or mustard. A stained shirt isn't gonna get
you laid. This tells her that your life's too chaotic
to even take care of your clothing. Not not an
attractive trait to display. Go buy a stain remover pin
or throw the shirt out.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
My favorite part of this article is if you scroll
on the bottom zero likes, zero comments.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
Yeah damn. It seems like these guys did their research.
These are the things that make my T shirt cock
block me.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, Well Joey.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Uh, it's been a pleasure having you on the day.
These geist as always. Where can people find you and
follow you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Thanks so much for having me. This is so fun.
You'll find me on Twitter and I Believe Blue Sky
at Joey Tainment, and you'll find me on Instagram and
threads at Joey Cliff with five or six eyes. And
then something I wanted to talk about is kind of
part of that things to check out. I'm a member
of the Animation Guild. We're in the process of negotiating
our next contract with the studios. And you know, it's

(57:25):
like it's a fight. Like animation workers. We you know,
make a ton of people a ton of money, and
a lot of that doesn't really trickle down to us.
And you know, we're just fighting for a fair deal
that you know we deserve. So if you want to
know more information about the plight of animation workers, I
definitely suggest following the social media accounts Animation Workers Ignited
as well as the Animation Guild for you know, updates

(57:46):
and things you can do to kind of support our fight.
And definitely use the hashtag stand with animation and no
contract cartoons and you know, tweet about how much you
love cartoons, how much you feel like people like me
that make cartoons that you love deserve to make a
fair wage. Absolutely, so I can afford a T shirt
that doesn't cock block me.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Haigarfield, but it will be our neck t shirts.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Man, amazing. Is there a work of media that you've
been enjoying?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Honestly, so work in media. I'm just gonna talk about
animation labor a bit more. There's this really great tweet
that I believe's tweeted by the Animation Guild showing like it.
Basically it says in twenty twenty four, there will be
four hundred and thirty movies released. Seven point four percent
of those movies are animated, but twenty five point one
percent of those But those seven point four percent of

(58:36):
movies make up twenty five point one percent of total
box office gross. So you know, I think that like
this is this is the kind of thing you can
see on animation workers ignited in the animation guild is
just like how how much money we make for these
studios and how little they pay us in return? So yep,
just a media media look at pro animation union labor stuff.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Check that out.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
So there's like a word to describe like this will
like fucked up thing that keeps happening to people that
do jobs, Like, yeah, they're making a bunch of money
for like other people and they don't get nothing of it.
What's the state of like the negotiations? Like how how
fucked up are the studios.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Being right now?

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:12):
So like you know, I guess that I like I
can't go into like super specific details, but like give
names yeah, but okay, names and addresses of CEOs here, Yeah, well,
so one of the things that I think, and this
kind of has to do with what we were talking
about earlier about like AI. Jeff Katzenberg, who's the founder
of DreamWorks, said in an interview last year that he's

(59:34):
really excited about AI because with the use of AI,
animated films and TV shows will be ninety percent faster
and more efficient to make, which to me says that
you're going to erase ninety percent of jobs that people
in animation work, and like you're going to use our
art to train that AI to replace us. So like,
you know, something that we're really you know, I think

(59:56):
that our membership is very passionate about is like getting
strong AI protection because like you know, it's like if
the studios had their way one like AI is like
half cooked and not ready to like make good stuff.
So basically like the nightmare future that we could have
is like, you know, they just ask us to do
punch ups on like AI written scripts and pay us

(01:00:17):
a fraction of the time to do it. And the
ascripts are bad because a I wrote it, not a human,
you know. So it's like so yeah, it's it is
just it's it is a big fight that we're going
through right now, and this really feels like it's like
a generational like you know, a generational fight that's like
going to dictate the future of if animation is something
that you can do as a career. And you know,
but I do think that something that's really cool to

(01:00:39):
see is like we're so engaged as a membership right now.
We had like twenty five hundred people show up to
a parking lot in Burbank last month to like an
animation rally that we put on. Like there's a lot
of like I think that we've we've been like pro
animation worker hashtags have been like the number one hashtags
on Twitter multiple times over the past like you know,
a couple of months. So it's like I think we're
we're in it for the long haul, run it for

(01:01:00):
the fight. But you know, it's as all negotiations go,
it's like it's yeah, you know, it's like it's just
it's a push and pull, and but it does feel
like if we don't get a good deal, we won't
be able to do this as a career anymore. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Yeah, right, so it will be bad for you the
viewer if you're not an animator, but you just enjoy animation.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, it's like we'll want to watch like slop if
you want to watch like slop made by AI, like
by all means, But if you want like actual good
shows that your fans have made by humans, like support
us in our fight, you know right?

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
Yeah? Do it? Miles? Where can people find you as
their work and media you've been enjoying? Find me at
Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Hell, even on
PlayStation Network where I'm actually really liking Star Wars Outlaws
despite what all the haters say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
What else? Fine Jacket on the basketball podcast man Jack
on Mans. Find me on the ninety Day Fiance podcast
for twenty Day Fiance. Some tweets I like. First one
is pretty wild. It's from at Abby o Selsey. It's
a photo She's at an airport bar and it says
I'm sitting next to a Lincoln impersonator at the bar.

(01:02:07):
He's watching MSNBC reporting on yesterday's assassination attempt. This is
easily the most surreal thing I've ever witnessed. This dude
is truly an Abraham Lincoln looking motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Lincoln free on the right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
The look on his face is did I cause this?

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
He was like almost like, am I in danger? Like
it's really I totally one. I agree, that is very surreal.
And then the next one, Uh, it's a it's a
quote tweet from the state of New Jersey. First person
asked at sork Ince tweeted, I respect that Virginia is
for lovers, but we need a state for haters. And
then New Jersey said, you called out New Jersey. Uh tweet.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
I've been enjoying disgraced congressman at M three three three
three three G four n the sequel to again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I guess ah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
When I watch Emily in Paris, I feel like a
dog whose owner left the TV on for them while
they go run errands. I think that is the experience.
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(01:03:21):
we post our episodes and our foot Nope. We link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles what song do we think people might enjoy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Really dope band, just really just real groovy, funky band,
the South Hill Experiment with a track called Little Monk
featuring one of my favorite up drummers, Kareem Riggins. Uh,
this is just a nice head bopper, chin to chest
neck bouncer, you know what I mean. So check this
one out Little Monk Featuringam Riggins by the South Hill Experiment.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
All right, we will link off to that in the
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Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
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