Rightwing WEIRDNESS (with Kat Abu) 07.30.24

In episode 1716, Jack and Miles are joined by TikTok star & Video Creator at Mother Jones, Kat Abughazaleh AKA Kat Abu, to discuss…  Toxic Rightwing Punditry, The Right Doesn't Know How To Attack Kamala, JD Is An L, Gutfeld Got Bars? And More!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
In the Zoom in the Zoom zmezur Zer ZOOMI, I've
got my mind up the.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Nissan commercial from the early nineties.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Zoom Zoom.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Volume Zime, I love my Master.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
That Master.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Blew it. Yeah, isn't it always do this? I think
I said Nissan like a fucking idiot.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I was always so jealous of the little kid who whispered.
I was like, yeah, and that was when I was
a child. I was like, he's got to be making
so much fucking money.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
My god, healing it for a whispered word.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
So that ship really is. It's the new I see
dead people.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Before that, the most iconic whisper was zoom so yeah yeah,
Zooming man.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
And then Haley Joel came in for us, all for
all us kids with giant heads.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
The whisper song come on, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah that's true. Hey little mama, let me whispering.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
It's like, bro, yeah, that whole song is so fucked up,
like he's just like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Important to realize that the first time that the woman
that that song is focused on knows of his awareness
is when he sneaks up behind her and whispers it
in her ear. She doesn't see him until that moment.
I think that's an important piece of Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, this is a She's minding her business at the
club and then this dude, the.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Stinky dude comes up to you spilling his hennessy.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Like, hey, let me whisp tell you something like when
he says, got a sexy ass body and you ask.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Soft and if I touch it just to see it soft?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
What you are getting pepper sprayed at the bar. But
this is this is how you know it's a big
like he goes, no, I'm just playing. Now, I'm just playing.
Let's you say I can and I'm going to be
a real all right if they are. Oh no, I'm
just look, it's my cousins. It's my cousin's birthday. Man.
She also just she just became a registered nurse. We're

(02:17):
just trying to have a good night. I just became
a registered something else.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, forty nine,
Episode two of The Daily's Like Guysday production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty four.
Happy seventieth to my mom.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh turny seventy. This year really a fifty four games,
very all out here, nineteen fifty four, We see you
what a year that's crazy here? Long.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I know, I still think about those cookies when you're like.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yo, my mom makes the best cookies, and I was like,
that's chocolate chip cookies.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And I'm not I'm not a person who says much
with my chest out, but I do say that with
my chest out, and I have yet to have somebody
be like, actually, bro incorrect, these kind they are not good.
They're good, they were good. They're good, they're good, they're
very cakey. Yeah, shout out, shout out to your lovely mother. Also,

(03:25):
July thirtieth, not only just the blessed birthday of your mother, it's.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Also National Climb a Mountain Day, National Father in Law Day,
National cheesecake Day, and shout out too short because it's
also National whistle Blower Day. Oh maybe different kind of whistleblower,
but yeah, shout out the whistleblower. Shout out to people
who see who see wrongdoing and blow the whistle and
call them out the fuckery. We need more people to
be calling out the fuckery at every turn, because you.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Remember those innocent days where we could say someone was
a whistleblower and then play the cliff and not be
worried that it was going to get a takedown.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Notice.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, that is That is one way AI, and
you know better computing has changed the world.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Shout out to AI.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
We can no longer play any clip.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Without fear of takedown. Notice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Anyways, you can always do shitty akas because my singing
is so bad that nobody will nor human will recognize
what it's what song it is supposed to be impersonating.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka skibbity s giv ity. Yeah,
give it a yeah, give it a yeah, Head into
toilet and I'll flush it away. That's courtesy of snarfl

(04:35):
Uh on the discord, just trying to get in with
the fellow kids with s gibity toilet references. You know,
some stuff that I'm up on and in no way
needed my nine year old nephew to explain to me anyway.
But why the toilet, uncle Jack? What the hell?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Man?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
The toilet taboo, big big taboo, you know, so it
makes sense to me. I'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host, mister Miles Grass, Miles Gray
a ka.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Glove out of my dreams, couch shot out to Lacaroni
for that Billy ocean Yeah, jd Vance, the couch fuckery continues.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
You can't we believe it when we see it, or
we just don't like you enough that that's your new
That's how we're gonna collectively.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Prove it's not true. All right, exactly exactly, Miles. We
are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
somebody we've been trying to have on the show for
a long time. Thrilled to have them. TikTok star video
creator at Mother Jones who monitors conservative media for work

(05:53):
and makes fun of conservative media for pleasure.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's cat album gazare Okay in the building, Thank you
so much.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
It's been I'm psyched to be here. I've been purposely
ignoring all of y'all's requests, so yeah, really did drag
me into this one, dming.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
You screaming yes, no, you're here, You're here, and also
also contributing to the tale too, right, Yeah, yeah? Is
the teal? Is the tail? The tail, the tail? Okay,
fantast that's Meddi Hassan's uh yeah sure with p Yeah,

(06:37):
just watching you like I was half the time. I
think for anybody who's like on political Twitter, like you're
gonna run up on when you were just clipping out
stuff for people to see, like the nonsense that was happening,
and then like then your commentary videos came out. It's
really dope to see you just keep fucking climbing.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
And the fact that you even remember when I was
just doing clipping, like I'm like tearing.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Up little bit. Oh no, that's what I'm saying, Like
you're part I think again, like for people who like
unfortunately have their eyes bleed looking at Twitter and on
stop's going on? Yeah, you're like like must follow person.
So like again, it's nice just to see, just to
see the evolution and that you would, you know, lower
yourself to even come on this show.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So we've been fans and also amazed at the mental
capacity to do what you do because we do some
of it. We look at we take a glancing look
at right wing media like it's the sun, you know,
like just okay, that's but you've been able to just

(07:42):
stare like a god into the sun and make sense
of it.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
All for all of us.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
My last job on night shift in media matters, it
was like a team of like eight of us, and
we were all so trauma bonded, and like all of
us had been at that job for years at that point,
and we had the same exact brain worms, and it
was this type of ca that you just you only
get from watching Sean Hannah. You do the same monologue
every time for three.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Years straight, right right right, like literally the same one
two years in a row. You've pointed out, right.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Oh yeah, when he did his at the Patriot Awards.
He did the same bit at the Patriot Awards verbatim
two years in a row, and thought no one would notice.
Unfortunately I noticed.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I hate that about results, Yeah, like a Sean, Yeah,
you turned in this paper last time, all right, I
remember this, Yes, all right.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
We're gonna get into some of the things that you're
noticing and ways that you understand the upcoming election that
I feel like I did not until I watched your.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Videos all of that.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
But before we get into that, we do like to
get to know our guests a little bit better by
asking you, what is something from your search history that
is revealing about who you are.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
So this morning. There's just like a sequence of searches
that are like how to put harness on cat? Can
I walk cat? Feline leukemia, walking cat harness f e LV,
just like over and over again of like trying to
find different Reddit search results, And yeah, I can give
my cat a walk. She has feline leukemia.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (09:17):
It's not actually leukemia, it's a virus, but like they
can't it's really transmissible to other cats. So like she
was in a special ward for almost two years at
the shelter, but she's like a very rambunctious good girl. Yeah,
I want to make sure you know she could go
for a walk.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, cat is very famous.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Heater here deserves to be some color Tommy, some color Timmy.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Your cat's name is Tommy?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right someone?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Because in LA, the thing you get is people being
like I don't actually know your name, and that's kind
of a power play. But the ultimate power play is
to come in on someone strong. Wrong.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, the little raccoons from animal Crossing, like the little
ones that are tom.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah yeah yeah nextws there you go equally cute.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Wait, so can you I've my partner her magesty tried
to walk our cat once or we have two cats.
Tried to take one of them out and they were
just like what the like it was. It was like
dragging a cat on a rope is what that sort
of ended up being for like four minutes, and then
we're like, let's go back inside.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well I'm not sure she like wants to, but I
want to give her the option. We're actually we're moving
to Chicago, and so next week I'm going to be
taking her on a plane and you have to walk
through security with the cat out of the carrier, like
you have to hold it, and then they swipe your
hands for bomb stuff. Oh sure, and you have to
like make sure the cat is still in your grass.
So I want to make sure that I have a
harness for at least that to like underneath. Yeah, yeah, yeah, heter.

(10:49):
Losing an airport would be really cute, but it would
be really annoying for oh yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Would be like a Diehard sequel.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah yeah, oh god, that'd be a great Diehard sequel
in the airport. That's exactly what Dieheart is.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
We all know.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yes, and you have been to Chicago, not in the summer, just.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Confirming I went for the first time since I was thirteen.
Last month, when I was thirteen, I was there for
three days in December. In December, Okay, it was actually lovely. Okay,
it was a really oddly lovely time. It was my
cousin's wedding. From what I've heard, it's great in the winter.
I've only heard good things about Chicago winters.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It makes sense. Chicago probably wants you to live there.
Chicago people, when I ask them, they're like, no, you don't.
You couldn't survive.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah. I'm like, I guess I can. They're like, yeah,
maybe for a day, dummy, And I'm like.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Good, I did, and so excited about living there. Like
every other city people are like god, blah blah blah,
and Chicago people are like it's great.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
It is really.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I feel like it's a propaganda campaign.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, it's it's It hasn't always been that way, but
I feel like recently cargo just gets raves from people
who live there.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
They're like, yeah, I live in Chicago. It's actually awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I was like, I didn't ask, man, I just asked.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
We know, we know? Yeah. Yeah. I think because it
threads that needle of being like a metropolitan city and
a little bit mid of a Midwestern feel at the
same time that it has like a balance.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, man, anyway, shout out Chicago, Shout out Chicago,
Shout out heater.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Shout out heat.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Might need one of those in the winter. Sorry, I'm
just what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Kat vinegar as a concept? I think we don't give
enough credit to vinegar. We have salt and vinegar chips.
It gives us a pop. I don't like cucumbers in general,
so those types of pickles are not a fan of.
But like pickling any other vegetable, you can't do it
without vinegar. Yeah, it's a great cleaning solution. It can
get like pretty much anything off of anything can take

(12:54):
any smell out once again, salt and vinegar chips. Yeah,
I just don't think we give enough credit to vinegar.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I love vinegar chips. Dude.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
We decide that vinegar was a food stuff and then
spilled it on something and watched the dirt like melt away, Like,
I wonder which can discovery or was it?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Was it a.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Cleaning solution that somebody dropped a potato chip in and
then was like, I'm too hungry to not eat this thing.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
I think it was someone being like like when you
sell sharpies and you're like, smells kind of good.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
It was like that.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Oh I guess it derives from the old French term
meaning sour wine. Never mind, Okay, well fine, I love it.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Area chips.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh, I love a good like when there's a good
salt vinegar chip. I like regional chips, you know whatever,
like it is like the local brand. I'm not like,
I don't care what the flavor is.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Its fascinating.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Like you go to like you know, like like Louisiana
and these z apps like kraw Tapers and those are
like I was like, yo, what fuck? These are amazing.
There's no pickle chips. But yeah, I like I'm a
big saltmn vinegar person for sure. Yeah me too.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I like sualt vinegar also, like like anything with.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
A little bit of kick. Yeah, are you when you
get do you get fish and chips and then just
douse the ship in vinegar?

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Because right now I'm on a real like tin fish kick.
Because like now, if you've tried sardines on a salt
and vineger chip or Antroby's on a saltan vinegar chip.
If you really like vinegar and salt, it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay, oh wow, I just want.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
To pick that out vinegar.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, fish, yeah, exactly, a good minionette. You know, the
red wine vinegar is essentially so fancy. Not a girl minion, Minionette.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
No, it's not a girl, right, I just want and
I knew that. I was just clarifying.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Really quick, minion. Oh I mean a minion.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Damn dude, this restaurant sucks.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just your rench sharpie like that. That is one of
my favorite smells, along with like tennis ball, new car.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
There's are are they?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Somebody needs to create like an air freshener that sharpie scented,
because I feel like I don't know that many people
who openly admit to loving the smell of sharpie.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Are we talking about Stralia Sharpie? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I love that smell.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I mean it's got it. Yeah, it's got that. It's
like it's like a nice cheese, you know what I mean,
where you're like and then you're like.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
That you can't sanitizers like the cheesemonger of third grade.
You know, you're just like, oh, it's kind of stinky.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
But I kind of love it, but it's kind of
it's me, you know, part of my brain that I'm
not used to. Maybe it's a brain decay, but I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, those are the accidental chemical compounds that for whatever reason,
I like want everythings. Yeah, gasoline is the.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
A list after this stuff. Like I don't know someone
that likes weird smells or someone that smells dangerous materials.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, they're like, and gasoline, are you making like flaming
tennis ball? Like yeah, we did that too, but tennis
ball and then launched it started.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
For sak We got a new business idea.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, do you like tennis ball because I know I'm not.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I Are we dogs?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I think we might be. Yeah, I remember it, he got.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I remember getting in trouble at a Big Five for
popping open a tennis ball camp when I was like
four that we didn't we weren't buying, but then my
dad had to buy because I was just cracking it
at the at the Big Five. I was like, you
know what, let me yep, And I was up like
Don Junior on a Morrow logo.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
His Rumble show is just so good in the world.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
God, Yeah, we're gonna have to watch it.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
We watched it on yesterday's episode. I think we're gonna
have to watch it again at least talk about that
whole situation.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Sir, sir, I have a specific clip if y'all are interested.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh yeah, great, I wonder if it's the same clip. Yeah?
Was it from the JD Vans livestream?

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Oh no, this is one from like a couple of
months ago where he's ranting about Fox News and like
it just gets They're like they won't let me on anymore,
and like just keeps going on and on and it's.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Extremes, like about.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
I will put a link to this, Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah, put that in there. What is something you think
is overrated?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Kat?

Speaker 5 (17:19):
I'm so glad you asked, because this is very near
and dear to my heart. The movie Forrest Gump.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Hmm, okay, not a good movie.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Tom Hanks is great in it, like the performances great. Yeah,
it's not a good movie. People think it's good because
boomers think it's good, and they only think it's good
because they can point screen and go I know that.
I was there. I saw that. I remember that.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Kennedy as to.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Do you know what the moral of Forrest Gump is
listen to authority, yes, yep, and served in the military,
and once he listened to authority and everything for yourself,
and you will be a millionaire who has a child
with the love of his life and has a super
happy life. If you question authority, do drugs have sex?

(18:10):
Support black liberation? Guess what you're gonna die of? Probably aids?
Do we do? We know what she died of?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And yeah that Jack.
You always do bring up the emptiness of the represent
like how the black.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Represent represents that. The whole scene in Washington, d C.
Where he like gets off the bus and there's just
a bunch of lines aimlessly walking around. This is like
Roberts and Maxis's vision of activism. It's just lines like
walking Like I was like when I first saw it,
I was like, that's a pleasant time at the American
Movie Theater when I was you know, I was a child.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
And then like I rewatched it.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
We did an episode of After Hours about it, and
I was like, this will be one of the points
on After Hours that I write about. And I ended
up writing like the longest episode of Drivers ever, just
about Forrest Gump that that was a cracked video show
back in the day, and it, yeah, the specifically the
DC stuff about like hippie activists. But then there's a

(19:13):
scene where they're in the black panther like in a
black panther headquarters and he uncomfort a black panther is
like ranting at him, and then he sees Jenny's boyfriend
Pusher on the other side of the room, and he
runs towards Jenny's boyfriend to like I'll punch him, and

(19:35):
the black panther keeps ranting at the empty space that
he just was in, as if he was like a
anger automaton, right, And like that I think is like
the most telling, weird little detail of like the absence
of thought that Robert S. Machis and like boomers in
general like give to these things. Like how they've treated

(19:59):
liber movements since they happened in the sixties is just
as like hood ornaments for like advertising, you know, like
just like yes, things that they can use as empty
gestures and like co opt to sell fucking printers or whatever.
You know.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Like I feel like there's this is really insightful.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, like it's it was, Yeah, there there are it's
worse that it is both bad and worth a closer look,
because there's just so much shit in it that it's.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Not a good movie. Like it's structurally it's him being
like I wiped my face while walking a bunch and
there was a smiley face here, and that's like we
didn't need that. We didn't need Forrest Gum inventing the
smiley face. No, we didn't need like any of that movie. Also,
after Bubba dies, like they barely mention him, Like they

(20:50):
name the company after him, his family gets money. That's cool,
but like I'm not sure if he's mentioned again after that,
maybe like once or twice, but he is supposedly like
the most influential person for life and he never comes
up again.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, And well, capitalism ultimately is a form of karma
that that like pays people in line with.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Like how good they are.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Also like in that movie, right, he just you know,
he believes in God and then God repays him by
like giving him a bunch of apple stock that he
then gives to Bubba.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, also like.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
To what's his face to Gary's nice?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Sorry, yeah, their finances wrong, But so he starts a
company with Gary Sonice, and like Bubba's estate has a
part of it, and that's what when they strike it
rich because a hurricane wipes out the other shrimp fishermen.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
And you know, Lieutenant Dan can is over his racism
against Vietnamese people and his trauma because he's down to
bang a Vietnamese woman exactly, which.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Shows called growth. Thank you, It's called growth.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I always loved the allusion that he made to Apollo
thirteen by saying his legs are the same things that
were on the Space Shuttle. It was this guy's inn
Apollo thirteen. Is this a reference? And I'm like, even
though they're not, I don't I remember that was like
my weird type.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Of brain came out before Apollo thirteen, So yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
He was conspiracy theory. It's canon. And my now, that's
the only good part of this movie.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Came out to all of you before Apollo thirteen. But yeah,
you know, the illuminati saw that ship way before.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, producer Victor said he went to space in the book.
There's a book.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, there's a book. And the author hated
the book so much he wrote a Forrest Gump two
and it's like complete dog shit, so that way they
couldn't adapt it.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, but then they were going to adapt it Forrest
cut two. The script was written, they had like were
having one of their first production meetings on September twelfth,
two thousand and one. It was scheduled for and they
like went to the meeting and they were like, so
he can't do this, right, Like, we just can't do
because otherwise people are gonna be like, wait, so when

(23:03):
does nine to eleven happen? But the script had him
in the back seat of the white Bronco during the
bronco chase.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
That's right, Yeah, so how he became OJ's friend who knows? Yeah,
he's just there and he like follows it chases a
butterfly into the back of the Bronco and he's like
trapped in there. He's like, oh, I was just looking
for a butterfly.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break, and we're
gonna come back and take a look at the upcoming
election and right wing media.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
We'll be right back and we're back.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
We're back, We're back, and we're back. Oh, Barbershop Quartet.
I don't know why I call it the upcoming election.
The election is happening. We're in the we're in.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
The home strangety eight days out when you hear this,
and for an American election, yeah, yeah, like upcoming to
make it feel like it's still far down the road
and we can just exist in this weird, fucked up
liminal space until we figure out what's happening. But like Kat,
obviously you have had your eyes on right wing punditry

(24:21):
for a very long time. And just like over the
last week, you know, like a weekest passed since Kamalo
was became the presumptive nominee Biden stepped down.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's fucking crazy, by the way. It's like, I know,
this is like an old thing where people are like, well,
it's only been a week, like it feels like a year.
But that's crazy that Biden was the presumptive nominee like
eight days ago as of this recording.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Sure, on Saturday, the debate was a month ago, like
a month from Saturday, right, right, that's how long it
has been. We have the assassination attempt jd Vance RNC,
this stupid bubble on my zoom that's popping up.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, and then just like yeah, that's right, and that
is true. We want to thumbs up that, But I
was curious, like it seems like we've known for decades.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
That he wants to oh yeah, and he's just generally
so sucky as a person.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
But I think broadly, like what's your read on right
wing punditry and the current state of like how they're
contending with the switch up of opponents, because prior to
the switch it felt like they were fucking spiking the
football at the RNC.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
They're like, who babe, babe, we got the old guy.
And they can't say our guys old because they cancel
each other out, but will continue to be like this
man is old and decrepit. But now it's like feels
like pure frustration, but like it's masked in this other
weird cockiness slash hatred, which they know how to do well.
But what's your sort of read on kind of how

(25:48):
they're dealing with the change and opponents and strategy.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
They're so mad, they're just like that drill tweet that's like,
don't tell, don't put in the paper that I'm mad, right,
so fucking bad, it's insane. The thing that like it's
hard for me to wrap my head around is the right,
is so good at playing the long game. That's why
we don't, you know, have row anymore. They're so good
at playing the long game. And no one really thought

(26:14):
that Kamala could be the nominee. Like they even joked
about it all the time, like what if Biden does
blah blah, Like I've heard Andy bring that up. But
it's always like they tagged Newsome or a Michelle Obama,
despite Michelle Obama always being like, no, I will never
do this. Every it's it's their worst nightmare, and she
keeps telling them it will never happen, and they still
don't believe her. But it feels like none of them,

(26:35):
like the real you know, voices in the Republican Party,
actually thought this was a possibility that would genuinely happen.
I think they thought they were going to run against Joe,
And I mean I honestly didn't think Joe Biden would
step down. And I got a lot of shit for
advocating for that for a straight up month. Yeah, and
then like this is true, this is true.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Miles had a question that that was my next question,
why do you hit America love Trump?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
That's Trump?

Speaker 5 (27:04):
As a Palestinian woman who works in disinformation. I want
Trump to be president.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm really sorry to us.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
To marry one of his cabinet members at gunpoint. I'm
super excited about that. But yeah, so they're they're really mad,
and there's I've talked a lot about this in the
last like two three weeks, even before she was the nominee.
But they don't know how to attack her. You can't
do the same exact shit you did with Hillary because
there's no foundation. With Hillary Clinton. You had like twenty

(27:35):
thirty years of making this woman the most evil person
on the planet. If you believe Alex Jones, she has
killed like six hundred people with her bare hands.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Liftic serial killer in America, the.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Most prolific serial killer. Like yeah, cracking you know next
and just drinking baby blood.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
She just goes up behind people, turns their head to
the side, shop that.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Up and thee yes.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
But that's you know, that's what she was. And even
to the people that didn't believe those conspiracy theories, she
was like this gigantic bitch. She was like this frigid bitch.
Tucker used to stay on MSNBC all the time. He'd
be like, every time I see her, right cross my
legs because like to like protect his balls, which is weird.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah, what world do you live in, Tucker? Where
if you don't do that? What happens when.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
You don't do what happens when you don't do that?
And you have like people asking they would be like,
so do you still cross your legs when you hear
Hillary Clinton's name? And yes, I do. It was such
a weird time, but they had, you know, all of
this villainization for so long and it worked. And you know,
it wasn't like she was the most popular candidate and

(28:45):
there was, you know, the sense of entitlement. There was
a lot going on. There was a lack of campaigning.
But in terms of the misogynist magic that they worked
back then, it doesn't quite translate to Kamala Harris because
for the last four years they've been con ascending to her,
which is like really fun if you want to make
yourself feel like a big strong man, but like not
super effective for creating a narrative that permeates the entire culture. Right,

(29:11):
So they've been making fun of her laugh and talking
about like that school bus thing and saying like she
can't put a sentence together and then of course, like
the racist and sexist stuff, but like it's that's the
best they've.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Got, you know.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
They call her radical and Marxist and a socialist, and like, god, I.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Wish right, yeah, I know, Trump had that attack where
he just like went off, but she's the biggest socialist
to America. No, America could not have like a socialist.
And I was just like, god, could you imagine, like if.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
I wish Democrats were the way that Republicans firand them
right right right exactly, Sorry, I mean interrupt you, Jack.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, No, that's that's all I had, was just the
agreeing and saying like yeah, Trump, Trump really like laid
out a version of Kamala Harris that I could get behind.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
That's my president right there. But they have like all
these things, they talk about how she's a borders are
But I feel like for the most part, it's been
like the fact checks have been consistent on like that's
a title that right wing media made up. Even on
Fox you had some contributors having to correct hosts being like, oh,
that's the title we made up. She was in charge,

(30:17):
like she was appointed to be, you know, focusing on
migration issues in twenty twenty one, but that title borders
are is not something that exists. And also that's homeland security.
It deals with it anyway. So they just ended up
putting themselves in this corner where they're saying just throwing
anything at the wall and seeing what sticks, and it's
making them extremely unlikable, like even more unlikable, which I

(30:39):
didn't think was possible.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, calling her the DEI candidate seemed to be the
first coherent strategy, and then it seems like they've now
come back and said, don't don't do that, don't do
a racism Maybe on that one, yeah, they were.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Like, Wow, you could sub in the N word and
like it would still get the same vibe. And yeah,
and I wish she was like that anymore.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
People are hearing that. Some do, but most are like,
what the fuck is this? Gross?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, you it was smart. In one of your videos,
you were talking about how this is basically just the
Southern strategy all over again, and that's what they've been doing,
especially since the rise of Trump. But you know, the
Southern strategy was Nixon's strategy to just you know, basically
be racist in words that haven't officially been deemed racist yet.

(31:27):
Like racist in words that make your racist voters feel
okay about being racist.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Doing some We're just auditioning some dog whistles right.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Now, Yeah, yeah, shins them out.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's like a tuning session of dog whistles.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
And look it goes back the other way too, like
in terms of the Southern strategy, you ne'd have instead
of saying the N word, which is what Leatwater, a strategist,
famously said over and over again. He was like, you
couldn't say the N words, so instead you said states
rights or forced bussing, And that's dog whistles have you know,
been around as long as politics, but they've been become

(32:01):
especially prominent since then. But you also have it the
other way, like talking about Judeo Christian values, you don't
need the they mean they mean white, yeah, but always
mean white. Like if you just put white where that is,
that's what they mean. And that's how the Republican Party
even remains relevant because you do have some people, you know,
I grew up conservative where it's like, well that doesn't

(32:22):
mean white, Like I care about my faith, so like
that obviously means my faith. And then you have people
that you know, know what it means and they're happy
about it.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
They their lack of being able to, like, to your point,
like articulate what she is or isn't. I mean yeah,
but when you when you said you're gonna come on,
I was like, okay, Kat, can you hit us with
some clips that you feel kind of encapsulate sort of
the just the grasping, just the swiping, it just thin
air that they're trying to, you know, formulate attacks on that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
We can talk about. This first one that you sent
over was from Mark Levin, and he is talking about
I don't again, and his understanding of history is not great,
I would say, based on how he is trying to
describe her. But this is just one of the many
attacks we've heard that again, like you also made the point,
You're like, we've all heard the racist, misogynistic stuff, like

(33:13):
what about some other failures to formulate any kind of
like line of attack. So let's check this one out.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Equity is the endgame.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
That's about dehumanizing the individual. This is what Totalaturn regimes do. Equity,
we got to get to the end game. Everybody is
the same. That's the kamer rouge, that is that is
that is mau That is sick. So I want you
to listen to this.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
This is Kamala Harris explaining her totalitarian ideology, which is
pure Marxism, not from me, from her, to.

Speaker 9 (33:53):
Be about a goal of saying everybody should end up
in the same place. Since we didn't start in the
same place. Some folks might need more what equitable distribution,
but we also need to fight for equity understanding and
not everyone starts out at the same place, so there's
a big.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Difference between equality and equity.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
Equality suggest often everybody should get the same thing.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
That's not what equality means.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Thank you, Mark, Can I just show me my privilege
here for a second and let you know that I didn't.
I've never seen that man before in my life.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Mark, I love this for you, like I love this
for you. I cannot. He sounds like an evil Gilbert Gottfried.
He is the most intolerable person on Fox News. When
he comes on Handy's show, Handity just gives him five
minutes to scream and it's awful. Anyone that Handy calls

(34:50):
the great Mark live in like no.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's there, Andy Rooney.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
He but it's just it's super wild just again that
their line of attack is to go after the very
concept of equality and try and put it through their
Fox Funhouse mirror and be like, equality is actually totalitarianism,
which is not what we're trying to do. We are,

(35:15):
we are, but that's not that's what they're trying. They
have their version too that should be scary, and it's
called equitable treatment of people or being able to address
inequality and address that. Now, I'm not sure entirely that
you know, her presidency would go after such a thing,
you know, in a way that felt truly tangible. But
at the same time, that is a concept that would

(35:36):
unite people because it is a huge issue. Yeah, we
have such just deep seated inequality in the country that, yeah,
that feels like something that could be done that helps
all people. But again they're just the projectionists really.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
They're like those are very highly selected poll quotes, Like
they're like, this is the wildest shit we could find
to make her seem completely out there, right, it's just like,
I think equity would be neat for people, And how
dare you?

Speaker 5 (36:06):
First off, Yeah, sorry, we all know rights are a
zero sum game, that's right, right, We're all aware of this,
but also like equity has been a scary word on
Fox News for the last four years. They love talking
about equity. They're like equality is great, but equity is bad,
and sometimes they get them mixed up, which is very silly. Yeah,
but yeah, that's definitely a big thing they love talking about.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah. Yeah, he only I'm sure if we let him
go further, he would have gotten real racist. But first
he wanted to give a quick lesson to try and
bring a bit of like negative charge to the word equity,
to try and you know, inoculate the viewers.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
But yeah, he's really cool. I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we're hanging out later. I
got I got some some Abraham Lincoln sketches I want
to sell him that I think you'll like, so that
he can hang them up in his office. The other one,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
This might be just the Southern strategy if we add
misogyny into the Southern strategy, which I think we probably can.
But criticizing her for smiling too much or too widely,
like having too big a smile, used to be the
goal here. I don't mean to sound at all sexist,

(37:19):
all right, but I think a man could not smile
like that.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Can you imagine? Then he's doing joker smiles. Men don't
do his smile.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And not all women do that anyway, Sorry, but that's
the way I feel.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It is also exactly bolster your point.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
That is exactly like I'm sure you.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Could just pull fifty different moments of him smiling like
that on Fox News and like building a career.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Show any time, Like when Trump did the State of
the Union and he walks through the like the chambers
and all the all the people on the right are
trying to shake his hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, notice me Trump.
It's yeah, it's it's very much apparent. But again, that's
also a very interesting one. Like it felt it feels
very Hilary esque. This feels like they're trying something from
the Hillary playbook, and like, yeah, that one's not quite

(38:07):
sticky either. Huh.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, they spent the last four years making fun of her.
Laugh this one. You know, it's it's Greg Kelly. He's
on news Max, which is like Fox News but with
lower production value and like fewer sensors. But they're really
just trying whatever. They're like, men don't smile and you
don't want to present that smiles.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, because if they did, what would that mean?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
They would mean they're a pussy?

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, dude, gay, Yeah they're gay. They smile all right,
English or Spanish? What are you doing on the stage?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Tough and dances like this to y m c A like, yeah,
jacking two people off.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, that's that's the one we want.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
That's the straightest ship I've seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yes, just rigid arm pumping. Yeah, for sure, I'm talking
about I don't have honey in my hips. That would
be a little too effeminate for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The most rigid hips like that is the one we
don't want.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Men I can dance. We hate men.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
They can dance, yea famously famously it means nothing like gross. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
The least thing is a man who can bend at
the hips.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
That is what I don't even want to go on
with that guy.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I do want to so this. I don't know if
this is going to be a coherent strategy on their part,
but there were two things from last weekend that are
our little alarming that we covered on yesterday's episode, and
I'm just curious to get your thoughts on as someone
who understands them or has seen the fox whisper.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
The fox whisper.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I didn't want to say it, but you're yeah, I
ever got it.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
That.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
So Trump said last week that in four years, the
supporters won't have to vote, basically like specifically Christians, like
just vote this time. Four years will have it fixed
so you don't have to vote. And then around the
same time, Kevin Roberts had a disconcerting quote where he
was like, we are winning in ways that the other

(40:05):
side doesn't yet know. We're not going to tell you
everything that's coming. Get ready to fight. Both statements that
could be read in a very like violently authoritarian direction.
And I'm just curious because I do think in much
the way that in his first election there was a
lot of confusion over like, how is he getting more

(40:27):
popular after saying these horrifying things, and then we eventually realized, oh,
the cruelty is the point. I think in some ways,
the authoritarianism and the fascism is the point this time around,
like he is running at least partially on like the
fact that he wished he could have overturned the last election,

(40:51):
and I think a lot of his supporters wished he
could have, And I'm just wondering if you think that
will become more and more like a thing that they
at least gesture towards, or if they're going to keep
kind of if he's going to keep being like Project
twenty twenty five. I've never heard of it. We're good here,
you know, until he actually wins and that we're fucked.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Oh yeah, I mean absolutely, he's going to keep going
with the authoritarian stick. And I'm not even sure it's
because like, I don't think Trump, you know, has a
cogent political philosophy, even when it comes to his own authoritarianism.
I think he's just really mad that he didn't get
to be president again and do all of his insane
stuff to keep being president, and so this time around,
he's just like he doesn't have any guard rails. He's

(41:36):
you know, this season's Homelander. He's just acting erratic and
not even doing like the minimal amount of thinking that
he would do. You know, it was interesting that he
tried to distance himself from Project twenty twenty five, but
he's taken no steps to distance himself from the Heritage Foundation.
And I think that the Hairs campaign, you know, it's
only been a week, so not gone wind. They keep

(41:56):
going this way, but like the way that they have
been respect bonding of continuing to hit on this and
to mention it and also present it in a way
that's like kind of fun, like these people are weird.
I think is really important. For the last two elections,
the Democrats, their entire thing was we are saving democracy.

(42:19):
If you don't vote for us, everything will be horrible,
which like true, but also people want to vote for something, yes,
And it also allows you to get away with like
not delivering. I mean, Joe Biden didn't deliver on a
bunch of his campaign promises because his whole thing was like, well,
I want to beat Donald Trump. He said he'd caught
afy row and do voting legislation, and he didn't do
either of those things. Because Joe Manchin when the Republican Party,

(42:43):
you'd be able to pressure their own caucus like that
Noe problem, And so you don't have to deliver on
much if you're just delivering on saving democracy. And people
get tired of being scared all the time, and when
you're scared all the time, authoritarianism can sound really good,
depending on who you are because you want a big
strong man to protect you. You want a big strong
man to attack your enemies. And if you're scared because

(43:06):
of the vaccine or the illegals or the you know,
crime wave or whatever other bullshit thing you're being attacked
with non stop, you might want someone that talks like
Trump does, where you're like, I don't need to think
about this anymore. I don't have to vote anymore. I
don't have to worry about you know, Kamala Harris or
AOC being president anymore because this man is going to

(43:29):
take care of it and there's no way that could
backfire on me, right right, And so like it, like
it resonates with some people. I think that this way
of attacking it of like, yes, it's super dangerous, we
don't like it, not cool, but also being like it's
fucking weird to want to restrict women's movement from state
to state federally is the way to go, because it

(43:50):
makes us be like, yeah, that that is fucking weird.
Why would we want our elected officials to do that? Like,
why what are they actually promising?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm really surprised how well the weird line
of attack has taken hold like and in a way
that feels like it does roll off the tongue too, because.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Again they've been they've been described.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Accurately as many other things like you know, misogynists, racists,
ethno nationalists like you name it. And but again, just
summing it up is like weird. While it does take
a lot of the sting out of the severity of
what they believe, I feel like it just connects with
more people to be like, Yeah, who the fuck is
talking about a Christian takeovers? It is weird.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Those words all sound like homework, you know. It's like
that's no national critic. Fuck you, Like, I don't what
are you making me learn, asshole? But weird?

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Is weird or not?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
The distillation that into weird is pretty compelling.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
I mean like people in disinformation, like me and my colleagues,
my old boss Andrew Lawrence has been saying this for years.
We've been like, please just like change your campaign strategy
to be like, look at these freaks. They want to
your child's genitals when they got into a locker room
and stop them from eating lunch. It's like when you
have a guy at a party who's being like a
huge dick and you can either fight him or like

(45:09):
be really pissed off at him, and then especially if
you're a woman, he'll like, you know, try to condescend
to you, or when he tries to, you know, push in.
You can just be like okay and then ignore him, yea,
and not actually ignore him because we're running an election here,
but you're not giving them the response they want and
it's really pissing them off.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, because you're like, no, I prefer to fight on
this battle ground, which is not whether or not people
are using litter boxes in a classroom. I'm over here
saying you're fucking weird, dude.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Yes, what is that Democrats are finally fighting on their
own turf rather than immediately capitulating whatever the right is
saying is true. And that's not all Democrats and this
has been one week. They are famously good at messing
things up, but this messaging is and things that come
off of it of like, let's do we really want

(46:03):
to live in a society where like we're trying to
get rid of free weather reports like why why are
we doing this? Which is in Project twenty twenty five,
is you know more, it hits harder for the average American.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, exactly. When you're like, no fault, divorces, what the
what's wrong? It's all weird.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
It kind of makes it fun. You know, twenty was
a real drag of an election, and this time we're like,
ha ha, you'll are weird.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Y'all are weird.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
And if you didn't fuck a couch, you have the
couch fucking st energy of anyone. And you didn't know
that was a thing a week ago.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Believe it if someone told me. But I think all the.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Star guy said your shoes are too big and right,
but to.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Your point about them fucking fucking things up. I heard
she is considering for her V pick VP pick also
JD Vance to really fuck with Trump.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
So yeah, but no, like I think you know when
you like we were talking, you know, hearing just Donald
Trump Junior, like when he did his live from mar
A Lago, shit, talking to JD. Vans recently, Like it's
pretty remarkable, Like this guy is flying off of the
confidence of being Donald Trump Junior or some other I

(47:11):
don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I think he must have been meditating and just.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's using heads.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Actually have a fun present for y'all about.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
This Okay, what what I actually I talked.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
About this on terminally online this weekend, but this comes up.
But I have my notes right here. The only reason
JD Vance is you'll probably know is VP is because
Donald Trump Junior and Eric Trump were like, do not
pick Doug Berg and pick this guy. We love him.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Do him?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Do him?

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, JD JD. Because they're like super online.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Donald Trump Junior has pitched a lot of people to
be in Trump's cabinet, and I have a list of
them right here.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Okay, and I think he.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Only knows like four government positions because most of them
are Would you like to hear some of vice president? Honestly?
Probably I would. Obviously Dan Bongino, who was a Fox
host who got fired the Bonge, the Bonge, I want

(48:08):
to be at the r n C. For vice president,
and because I think he'd made a great vice president.
Dano vice president for vice president United the guy that
couldn't even get a weekday Fox News show. For Vice
President Tucker Carlson, also for Vice President Ramaswami, also for

(48:29):
Vice President Carrie Lake, also for Vice president.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Hey, he's not to your point. One thing he has
in common with Americas does not want to do homework.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Okay, does not want to do.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
We also have Tucker Carlson again, but for press secretary.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
He forgot he put him on the VP.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
He was like, we have to do here Ben diagrams.
I love Ben diagram Oh. Laura Lumer for press secretary,
Oh no, it can. It gets you better. Owen Schreyer,
who works with Alex Jones. He's like Alex Jones' is
you know, right hand man or was depending on who
you ask him for press secretary because I remember if

(49:10):
they are only like three jobs in the world. Also
Alex Jones for press secretary.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Wow, this guy is a real fucking idiot. That was
the one that's men for me. I was gonna say
Alex Jones for CIA, but like the oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Noymat Yeah, so he can he can sell nutraceuticals from
the fucking podium during a briefing.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Ye oh my god, doctor Jones's naturals I hate. But
I know that Daison company.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
That's the one who does not me. I'm just I'm
just promoting this other guy's company.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
But shout out to knowledge.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
The thing though, too is like yeah they were just
on shut them out.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Uh. The like all these people were talking about again
fucking weird all right, when the people that are in
Trump's or a bit like the ones that have his ear,
like his kids and stuff stuff like that, are also
people like Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Steven Miller, Steve Bannon.
Again weird ass dudes. Not again, I could, I could

(50:09):
be more accurate in describing, but we all know what
we mean. These are people who have they live in
some parallel reality where they think like their objective or
their their objective opinion about or not, you know, their
subjective opinion about how we should be living is agreeable
to every person that hears it and is actually the
best thing for the country. And then look what that
gets you. You get this guy JD. Vance, and you

(50:30):
get these other people who are so unrelatable and like
what's going on?

Speaker 10 (50:34):
Like, yeah, because y'all are you're you're you're all just
in this the weirdest bubble ever and thinking because these
people have like high standing within within your base that
that has wider appeal, like not even just the.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Most online people in your base. So yeah, weirdness aboundell.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Shit, Yeah, Like AOC said that to me, I was
glad she called it out.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, yeah, And it also seems like the sort of
insult that the people who vote for Donald Trump would
take seriously or like, you know, like where.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
If there's no bite for them anymore, right as.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
No nationalist or being like listen to the way he talks.
He's like so rude and like the things he says
are like uncouth or you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
But like presidency once almost Yeah, weird is what they
call other people, and like it's unmistakably true in this case.
You know, they spent the last four years calling us pedophiles,
and now they're mad because we're like, hey, are weird?
You're weird?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
All right, Let's let's take one more break and we'll
come right back.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
And weird back on air.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Snowflake ship Cat, you have seen some ship as mentioned
up top. You were on the night Shi for Media Matters,
mainlining Fox for hours at a time. You know things
about these hosts and their own particular brand of weirdness.

(52:13):
So I just wanted to take a moment because, like
I was just reading an interview with you where you
talked about Sean Hannity and specifically pain Day, and I
wanted to see, like if you could talk about pain
Day and also talk about like anything else that has
like come across your radar with regards to some of

(52:35):
these names that people who don't watch Fox.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Yeah, like what this question makes me so happy because
there's so much more in my brain.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Sean Hannity is a martial artist. Specifically, it's an eclectic
blend of martial arts. He talks about it a lot
on his radio show, Eclectic Blend of Martial Arts. Once
he had Connor McGregor on his show, and he kept
like mentioning his dojo and kept being like, like, kept
hinting at it, and I guess he was hoping that

(53:08):
McGregor would be like, oh, you want to do like
a tussle or something. He never did the entire time.
Gregor was just like, I but pain Day is. I
believe it's once a month, and essentially Sean Handy just
gets the ship beaten out of him by say okay
and uh yep, that's pain Day. I think I think
it's a great concept. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he talks about

(53:29):
it a lot.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah, helps helps him stay sharp. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I think more workout routines should have should involve one
day where Sean Handedy gets the ship beaten.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Now every American does this. We got Sean Handy.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
And also, hey, Sean, you want to live in the
world where you don't have to call it pain day
and you can just let your kinks, you know, be
out there.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
You know what I mean? If that's what you want
once a month of Kravmaga and tempo karate jiu jitsu.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
You know that speech every time when he enters the dungeon. Yeah,
like just just a Who's.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Just like, I see what I'm doing is it's not weird.
It's an eclectic blend of manly stuff. And you know,
getting my sense is, you know, sweat to drip in
my mouth and you're like, what sir? So that's what
it's Okay, interesting piece of weird lowre whatever. What other
weirdo lore? Can you be blessed us with about some
of them?

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Can I tell you all about Glenn Beck's weird little
girls shoes and a glass box?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
This was like in twenty twenty one when I was
just like clipping random stuff and I always stuck in
my head Glenn Beck was talking about he came on
the Tuckers show to talk about how how you know
awful the big tech is big tech censorship and somehow
compared that to internment camps of the Japanese during World
War Two here in the US. And I love that

(55:02):
for some reason, I can pull up a picture of
this for y'all. Yeah, he was like, I have this
pair of shoes and he had them in a little
glass box. Here we go, I am sending this in
the zoom chat. He had them in a little glass
box and they're from a little girl that was in

(55:22):
a Japanese internment camp. And then he compared that to
big tech censorship. I have no way to explain what
was going on in his head. It is like it's
exactly as I.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Explained, right, those are those shoes are called get that.
I'm Japanese, so like those shoes specifically like those yo,
that is they're not just shoes like these if you're Japanese,
like you'll look at that shit and like, yo, what
the fuck? And that's like his keepsake from the internment,
Like what what did he say? What's his connection to it? Like,
aside from why he wants to have those pairs of shoes.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
I think he just bought it. I think he was like,
this is a simple I have no fucking idea. But
he keeps someone in a glass box in his home
and brought them on national television.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I'm a bit of a collector of memorabilia of small
girls in pain.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, going through appreciating thing that definitely is like a
pain is the point type keepsake because you're like, look,
that was last time we had it together enough to
intern our own fucking people like that, you know, aside
from the Carsonal State, but that.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
But I mean, like for Glenn Beck, he's more like, God,
I wish we could do this again.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, right, right right, exactly right. It's just like Twitter.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
It's just like Jack Dorsey. It's the same thing, right right.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Right, Yeah, to remind him, Glenn Beck, sir.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
So that's that's something I think about a lot, and
I think more people should know about. Yeah, that's Laura
Ingram has this guy, Raymond Royo who's a Fox contributor
on like almost every day, and they gossip and it's fascinating.
It's a fascinating dynamic. They become so bitchy and petty
with each other, and I just I really want to

(57:03):
hear their conversations off air. To be totally honest, right,
there are so many guests, so many guests. I have
actually a whole bunch of post it notes on my
wall right here of just like videos that I need
to do at some point. And one is disappointing your
favorite actor when you were a kid is now a
regular Fox News guest. And then the County base.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Oh man, Yeah, just like one of my favorite people
from the Real World or was it Rachel Duffy Campos.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, Rachel Campbell Duffy.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
I was like, I was rooting for you on the
Real World.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
It was MTV to Fox News pipeline because her husband
was also on the Real World on a different season.
Yeah yeah, wait, can I tell y'all one more really
racist thing that Jesse Waters did this year, because like it's.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Just yeah, yeah, let's please throw another one on the
pile of racist Jesse Waters stuff that's happened this year.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
So they were talking on Waters Show about black voters
and a possible menthol band and I can't find the
exact clip, but I remember right now about a menthol
ban and then they had tyros On. Tyris was on there,
to promote his book. You could tell they did not
tell him anything about the topic. And so he comes

(58:12):
on and Tyris, for the record, for anyone that doesn't know,
is half black. And Jesse goes, so, what do you
think about a menthol Ban? And Tyris was like, well,
I don't smoke Menthols, A lot of people don't smoke
in general, and wow. He then he mentioned at some
point he was like, and you know, I'm half white
or something, and Jesse went, wait, you're half white? Like

(58:35):
on air, I thought this man, like this professional wrestler
was about to deck him. It was the funniest shit. Wow,
just completely unprepared for this segment, goes all in, like
Jesse is also unprepared for his own segment that he
planned that he was ready for.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
God, what a fucking loser. You're by racial? What the
fuck's brows?

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Like a guest on Gutfeld, like, I can't defend him
too much?

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, No. Like Tyrus, his takes are always
so bad and he's always deployed to be like, hey,
give us racist cover right by, Like if can you
please do that? Because obviously this is a time honor
tradition for political fiery rhetoric. But like the other thing though, too,
is just thinking about like how getting caught up in
this machine completely like fucks your head up. Like you know,

(59:24):
you mentioned how jd Vance was basically sort of shaped
in the fires of Tucker Carlson's show and had some
record inordinate amount of appearances prior to him becoming a
Senate candidate. And I feel like jd Vance is one
of these like truly like Machiavellian type characters that is,
like willing to sell out his own ideological ideological beliefs,

(59:46):
like in service of climbing the power louder. And it
is just wild to see where he's at now because
so many people, so many white supremacists on the right,
have taken issue with the fact that his wife is
a brown female that like it's wild to see this
like clip of him on Megan Kelly's show and kind
of talking about the controversy around it, but also like

(01:00:09):
half a g I still have to play this because
this shows how you will be chewed up and spit
out by like right wing talking points so the like
to the point that you have no respect for your
own wife and mother of your children. Yeah, right, exactly.
This is JD. Van's on Magan Kelly Show talking about
I don't know, yeah, maybe she's brown. This is listen
to this. Look, I love my wife so much. I

(01:00:30):
love her because she's who she is. Obviously she's not
a white person. And we've been a cute attacked by
some white supremacists over that. But I just I love usha.
She's such a good mom. I'm sorry, but I love her.
It's not we've been attacked, well sure, but it's not
about saying like, yeah, we were attacked by some white supremacists.

(01:00:50):
And you know he could have if like any reasonable
person would say, and they're really wrong. This is a
human being, has nothing to do with any but he goes.
But you know, she's the like it's like, well, what
do you want me to do? You know, she's like
a good wife, so you know, despite that, you know,
I love her, but just comes off so fucking again,
just weird. It's like you a fucking shitty husband and

(01:01:12):
you look, they look so fucking dumb again because you
have to you know, be a collection of the right
values to best end in the party, and then you
end up just like not even knowing who the fuck
you are anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
Yeah, and he's not qualified, you know. I mean the
only reason, like you said, you know, Fox made him
a Senate candidate. Like at one point they had him
on Outnumbered, the show where they have one man and
then a bunch of women in short skirts next to him. Right,
he was like one of their hosts when he was
running for Senate, So he just had like an hour
of uninterrupted airtime, right. And I used to think I
was like, wow, he's the only successful Fox candidate because

(01:01:47):
you had you know, doctor Oz, Right, You've had all
these candidates in the last few years that are like
Hanndy's friends and they're not actually like good at their job,
and they keep getting clobbered and it's very funny. But
Jade Vance slipped through, and now it's like, oh no,
he was so unprepared for this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, I mean, the reason that so many of them
were losing is the exact thing we're talking about right now,
is they so many of these like Trump Fox candidates
are weird and people were like, I don't like, none
of this really resonates with me. And then the one

(01:02:24):
who slipped through, they're like more of this, Well, welcome,
meet your new VP and right now. Yeah, it has
given the Democrats something to run with. It feels like
you've referenced Gutfeld a couple of times. I just have
you so you have watched Gutfeld our obsession.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
I have watched so much Gutfeld. I have watched possibly
months of Gutfeld.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
More Gutfeld than even Gutfeld has seen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
I certainly put more effort into any of my bits
than Gutfeld has done for his entire life. Sorry, continue,
it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Yeah, you were talking about like it seems like they're
just it's the same conservative comedy special over and over
like the like it's just the same handful of jokes,
like what does the writer's room look like for Gutfeld?
Like besides non union?

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Like what is non union? You need a rhyming dictionary.
I don't know if you all have seen a two
minute cut of Gutfeld just rhyming. This is him in
one week. He's the worst man in the world, just
write just like just like a terrible a terrible comedian.
It makes me so mad. He's not a comedian. They

(01:03:40):
were like, this is the closest thing we have, right, Yeah,
his writer's room. It's just essentially saying shit and like
a weird cadence. It's the amount that he rhymes, I
think is what really gets to me, because it's unnecessary.
I'm sending a link here. Yeah, So this is all
I watched Gutfeld for, like I you know, watched it
in the background that I switched with the person that

(01:04:01):
watched it like intently every night for a whole week.
This is every rhyme he did during his late night
show for one week. It's just one week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
This is what it's being. One week of me rhymeman.
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Birds have them stumped, so they blame it on Trump.

Speaker 11 (01:04:15):
Biden gives himself a pass for the cost of food, milk,
and gas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Step outside of you dare, there's turds in the air.
Who should we be thanking for journalism? Tanking?

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Second leap and announce his beep?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
When will Trump.

Speaker 11 (01:04:30):
Make a peep about his choice for beep? The media
cries about their demise for tabloid fodder. She's a keeper,
But what if Taylor's stories went much deeper? Will politicians
live forever thanks to a brain chip endeavor?

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
This is comedy.

Speaker 11 (01:04:47):
Diapers, canes and chips in their brains Elon enters your
mind with a chip he designed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
We made it for seconds of the wait.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Oh my god, this is one week's one week's worth
of shows.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
What a it's so And that's not counting the ones
on the five because he also rhymes on the five.
And some will say, well, those are just his transitions
between segments, and to that, I would say, that's a
shitty transition between segments. Also, it's not just his transitions
between segments. There are plenty of rhymes within the segments.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, right, And that's not right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
Yeah, that's not a joke. That's two words. That sounds similar.
It's not a joke. And I'm not triggered. It's just shitty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
It sucks, It really does suck. Oh man, this is
very bad. I have been losing sleep ever since I
heard about Gutfeld and how the right is getting funny
and the left is worried. But this is good news.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
We like he's the king of late night and they
are at seven pm on the West coast, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Right, truly truly dominating the fucking charts'.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Dominating the charts. The air is full of sharts. Oh wow,
I was gonna hear one.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
I want to hear your best gut felt.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Oh yes, here's the thing. We've got a presidential pick
named Kamala Harris. She'll leave the nation embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Oh, he's got to steal that one in the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I know, I got yeah, justin can we edit that out?
That would Actually I'm going to take that one of
her campaign.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I'm actually gonna take that one.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
No one can defeat Gutfeld, no one, no one, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I have to use his own weapons against him, exactly
to bring him down.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
The only good thing Bill Maher has ever done is
go on Gutfeld show and make him look stupid. The
only good thing Bill mar has ever done.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Oh wow, yeah, because.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
If he went on and Gutfeld is like, see, we
have so many points of view, and Bill Maher was like,
this is the only time that you've ever had someone
that's like a liberal and I'm doing air quotes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Exactly, we might be equally islamophobic. Actually we might have
overlapt in that sense, trying to.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Be like, see we're like bestI use we're like best friends.
And Bill mar like was just like, okay, I'm here
about my book.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Which is so funny too, because like even in comedy.
You see, like some of the people that go on
Bill Maher's little like you know what basement podcast that
he does, and like half the time they're like, dude,
what I know? It's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Well, kat A Gazale, thank you so much for coming.
What a pleasure having you. Can't wait to keep watching
your election coverage, one of the best to do it.
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Subscribe to my YouTube channel or follow my TikTok kat
m aboo That's kate a t m abu. That's also
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of my cat, Peter and Peter exactly, Tommy Peter, the
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(01:07:51):
you have my full last name, so I would just
advise either looking at my name or going on my
link tree because it's long and hardest fill.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
We will not for me show notes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Show thank you, and also thank you for having me.
I've had a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'd love to have you back
because I feel like it's only going to get weirder
as we get.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Turns out it's only July. Yeah, and we're this weird.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
How is that possible? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying
a time? I have a film anything.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
I've been watching a lot of Dimension twenty on Dropout
and it's Dungeons and Dragons with running Lee Mulligan as
their game master. And it's very fun to watch, and
uh yeah, I highly recommend it. I've had a blast.
I don't even know that much about D and D,
but now I'm like, god, I want to not only
play D and D, but like play with these people

(01:08:47):
right right right. It's very fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Looks like they got a bunch exactly. Yeah. They got
a good crew.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Yeah, dropout crew great, they make.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Great Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do awesome. Miles. Where can
people find you as their working media you've.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Been enjoy Here?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Find me at Miles of Gray, Twitter, Instagram. You find
Jack and I talking basketball on Miles and Jack got
mad BOOSTI And if you want to hear me talk
about ninety day Fiance, I do that over on four
to twenty day Fiance. For all my trash reality lovers,
a tweet, I like, oh man, there's a few, let's
see this one is just kind of funny. At Weird Bongs.

(01:09:23):
Just tweeted this photo of like a half smoked cigarette
in a bowl with saran wrap over it in the
refrigerator next to some loose chicken bones, and something so
visceral about someone with a half smoked cigarette being like,
let me put the saran wrap on top of the bull.
And then another one was just well, actually this was

(01:09:45):
at Non Turtle Soup. Actually it's actually a video, yeah, Amanda, Yeah, man,
it's also been on the show too. Just this fucking
weird ad from JD again, just stupid ass ad trying
to get people pumped up for the campaign, and this
is how he's trying to get people pumped up for
the campaign. Hey guys, Jadie Vans here at Radford, Virginia.
I thought i'd taking behind the scenes a little bit.

(01:10:06):
When you get to an event, they've got a ton
of crap for you to drink and eat. You got
three bottles to die out to do, about a dozen
snickers and nag of chips. If I ain't even half
this stuff, of course I blewed up like crazy. This
is this is the energy that powers the presidential and
vice presidential campaign. Of course, I'm honored to be supporting

(01:10:26):
President Trump. I'm honored to be his running mate. If
you want to help us, chip in five dollars, chip
in fifteen dollars to get the message out and to
get people to the polls. This election is so important.
Your resources help us do the things we need to win.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Okay, did he know that, like chippin was written in
there as like a play on words, because that's the
only thing that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Coulson this, Wait, are we thinking this was written? I
think this was pure. This is improvised.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
They're like those videos, this charisma you can't get anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah, like I said, is the grand Wizard of the
KKK and he's trying to hit us with this elementary
cit He's like he was trying to be colloqual, like
first he was calling it crap, like it's bad for you,
but also trying to be like, yo, look at us
free crap we got. Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
It makes me not want to chip in five dollars
because I'm like, well, you just could not get as
many bags of chips, making like crazy and you're not
going to eat half of it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
What's the two of you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Like DeSantis thing going the like come on, man, sugar,
you know, like when DeSantis was like when people were
like you ate pudding with two fingers, you freak, and
he was like, no, I don't even eat pudding. Man,
come on, man, sugar, because didn't j d vance Like also, well,
I guess he said I don't drink.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Mountain Do I drink diet mountain dew?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
But I feel like he's always talking like he's got
that like dolphin yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Oh yeah, yeah? What was that one? Is that? Is
that a thing?

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
I saw that pop up too now that he's searching
dolphin shit.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
So like there was like highlighting in the screenshot that
made it seem like he could be searching or right,
dolphin sex, like dolphin with a woman, right, And then
they had to like change a headline because it was
like there's no definitive proof that was the case. Oh
my god, I love his Twitter is so good now,
like the picture of him like looking at guns because

(01:12:15):
you need such a big strong man in the background.
Like the next case over it's like about of Nazi memorabilia. Yeah,
there's sir, delete your delete your old tweets.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Killing it amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
A couple of.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Where can we find you? And do you have any
media though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
You can find me, Oh my god, thank you so
much for asking. You can find me actually at Jack
Underscore O'Brien on Twitter, enjoying things like PJ Evans tweeted
catching up to a guy in the grocery store, I
got milk before I knew you had already gotten some.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I wasn't copying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
You, which I can identify it with. Also such a fear,
Hey you copied me? No man, no, just like yeah,
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
The no.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Garfinkle tweeted, I'm totally xanax pilled.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
I enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
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today's episode, as well as a song that we think
you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you
think people might enjoy?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Yes, this is a track from a group called Night Tapes.
They are from Southeast London and it's very like DIY,
dreamy bedroom pop and I just like it. It feels sparkly,
it feels fun. It feels like there's nine ninety eight
days until an election. So this track is called Drifting
and it's by night Tapes. This is what I'm gonna

(01:13:49):
be listening to when I do my little tracings later. Okay,
so put it in your headphones to relax. Drifting by
night Tapes, all right. We will link off to that
in the footnotes. All these zekeeist production of iHeart Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
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