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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, walking to the program, we got to dive
into this. FEMA says, well, we lack funding for a
hurricane season. Well, you're still above COVID funding some limits.
They haven't cut the spending back the pre COVID levels,
and you did not budget appropriately. I mean, this is
the first big hurricane we hand a while. Maybe we

(00:28):
run short of money. That's fine, but don't worry. Call
Fladimir Zelenski, see if he'll give you some of that
American money back and to help out the folks in
North Carolina. That's what you got to do.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
All right.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Good to have you here on the radio show. I
know that's very simple to mindset, but there's a perception
here when folks of North Carolina are saying we need
help here, and FEMA's like, we can't help you. We
got to go to Congress. Congress got to give us money.
And yet last week and you have these times that
they said we're going to give a billion here and
a billion to him, and they're like, well, what about
the people in North Carolina. Man, they're really struggling right now.

(01:00):
If you haven't seen some of that video imagery coming
out of the Hurricane Helene devastation. You need to check
it out. A lot of the there's new video coming
out every day because some of these areas have not
been able to be accessed and they're finally able to
get in there and the waters have succeeded subsided enough
and that people are getting in there. And it's ugly.

(01:23):
It really is ugly, and it's going to take a
lot of rebuilding there. But it's always interesting from the
fires in Hawaii at Maui where the residents were given
seven hundred bucks or something, that's it. You get seven
hundred piece and that's that's your FEMA blessing there. And
I think they're saying seven to fifty for the folks
in North Carolina. But hey, some certain people come to

(01:44):
town and they get billions of dollars right off the
right off the bat. All right, let's switch gears here,
if I may, welcome to the program. This hour of
the program is brought to you by Dan Caplis. Dan
Capli's Law, a serious firm for serious cases. Welcome into
the program. FH. Buckley. He's the author of a book
called The Roots of Liberalism. What Faithful Knights and the

(02:04):
Little match Girl taught us about civil virtue on the hotline.
We have mister F. H. Buckley. Let me also let
you know that mister Buckley is a foundation professor at
George Mason University Social School of Law. Frequent guest Morning
Joe CNN, Russell Mbaugh, Sho CNN, et cetera, et cetera. FH.
Buckley walking on the program. How are you.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm great, Thank you great, Thanks for having me and
call me Frank.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Frank, I appreciate you hopping on the program here this morning.
This phrase liberal or liberalism has kind of been hijacked.
Occasionally you hear someone clarify and say I'm a classic
liberal or an upper case liberal or a lowercase liberal.
I think it's important that we specify what liberalism is,

(02:48):
and it could be in my estimation, are conservatives the
only liberals that are really left out there in by
the true definition.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, that's my point, right, I mean, look the labels
out there, and the only real liberals left it nowadays
are conservatives. So conservatives might as well take ownership of
the label. You know, whatever it means. Conservatism means you
don't divide people up on the basis of race, right,
I mean we're on the side of Mark Luther King
here judge people by the content of their character. Well,

(03:19):
the guys who don't do that are the guys on
the left and say, no, no, you know, we got
these quotas, we've got these racial categories. That's not us,
that's not conservatives. And again, you know, liberalism means free
speech rights. But you know, ask yourself, who are the
guys who are trying to shut down free speech, who
want to cancel people. Well, lots of people on the left,

(03:40):
So they've given up on liberalism. And it's got a
noble tradition, you know. And are some of our heroes
in the past conservatives clearly identifiable as liberals. I mean,
Dwight Eyes, are Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, people like that.
They're conservatives and they're liberals. And and if the people

(04:01):
on the left despise liberalism, okay, that's fine, that's us.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
The voice of Frank Buckley on the Hotline. His latest
book is called The Roots of Liberalism. What Faithful Knights
and the Little mass Girl taught us about civil virtue.
You just mentioned some American figures out there, but in
your book you go deeper than that you go back
to the code of chivalry, you go back to further
back in history, that this tradition of liberalism pre dates

(04:29):
of those names that you just mentioned.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, absolutely right. I mean what I wanted to say is, hey,
this is not a philosophy. Rather, this is a bunch
of traditions and stories and heroes in our Western culture.
Is basic to the Western culture. And you know the
guys who wanted to race al of that, those are
the people on the left. But if you know, if

(04:54):
you grew up as a normal person in America, right,
you revered people like yeah, I don't know, John Wayne,
cowboys or you know, knights and shining armor and people
like that. Well, that's that's our Western tradition and it's
it's completely noble. And that's really what the source of
our liberalism is. I mean, you know, one example, I

(05:16):
V is the law of chivalry as to how you
treat prisoners of war, and we do it well better
than anybody, darn it. And where does that come from? Well,
you know, it comes from stories in the fourteenth century.
But those stories in the fourteenth century, they're also that's
where the Geneva Convention came from. Right, so you know,

(05:42):
we have great examples of that in our past, and
and that's really true nobility, and that's really liberalism. Right,
So you know, think of Ulysses grant at appomatics, or
you know, think of Colin Powell. Why you know we
abandoned the pursuit of Saddam Hussem in the First Gulf War.

(06:07):
Colin Powell said, well, that's because the enemy is completely
totally destroyed. To go further would be un American and chivalrous.
So that's who we are. Let's take ownership of our
Western tradition because the guys on the left don't want
to do that.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Frank Buckley, my guest. The latest books called The Roots
of Liberalism. People here again they hear the phrase liberal
and then they say, well, I'm a conservative again. Help
reconcile that difference between what we call the classical liberal
and the modern conservatism and are those mutually exclusive? Because
in our hands we have liberal versus conservative and they
do not meet in the middle.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, you know, the guys on the left don't even
want to say liberal. They want to say their progressives,
right or they're woke or whatever. They've given up on it, right,
and all I'm trying to say, is you know, if
you have any pride in the Western tradition, in our
in our civilization, it incorporates a whole bunch of virtues

(07:07):
which are despised by people on the left and are
kind of basic to our understanding of a good moral
political life. And who am I talking about here, I'm
talking about conservatives, So you know, don't get you know,
don't get so hung I wouldn't get hung up on
you know, classical liberal or whatever. I just say, if
you look at it in the ensemble, what we've got

(07:30):
is Western culture.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
The Foundation professor at George Mason University on the Hotline.
He's author of a book called The Roots of Liberalism.
Frank Buckley. Frank, as you a look at the I
guess template of classical or traditional liberalism, and you put
it over the American political landscape in this election season.
You have some pretty distinct, amazing distinctions. You have a

(07:54):
Republican Party that used to be considered the warhawks. It's
been kind of taken over by people that say, hey, America,
and we can deal with these other issues later, but
let's not have war. You've got other people ready to
go to war at any moment. I mean, there has
really truly been a reversal of roles in America. Take
that temple of liberalism and to give some analysis as

(08:14):
to the modern political campaign scene.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, well, you know, I think I could speak to
that because I wrote a book about liberalism, and I
was also a speech writer or the Trump family in
twenty sixteen and again this summer. So you know, I
identify the Trump movement with the old fashioned liberalism right,
whereas what they're running against is no, I don't know

(08:39):
what they're running against. They don't either, but you know,
the left at this point is progressive and woke at
anti liberal.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Let me ask you this, this movement towards wokism, and
this movement towards if I disagree with you, you've offended me.
Therefore we must be enemies. That's not necessarily been part
of the American tradition. I mean, it's used to be
that we could agree to disagree. Where did that poison
that if you, if I disagree with you, you must

(09:09):
be Satan himself? Where did that poison slip into our politics?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Mostly through just contempt for the other side. I mean,
go back to Hillary Clinton's deplorables, I mean, the elites
in this country. I guess they wanted to justify their
their hatred for their opponents, so they had to denigrate them.
And and you know, so it's really advice. I mean,

(09:36):
it's really a vice of arrogance on their part where
you don't have to listen to the other guys. I mean,
conservatives don't have that kind of luxury, right, because if
you're a conservative, you're exposed to twenty four to seven
of the voices on the left right, But if you're
on the on the left, you can cocoon yourself. You

(09:57):
don't have to pay attention to those people. And yeah,
and you know, and forget about them. Their opinions are
racist and thorible and all of that stuff. So it's
a matter of really preening moral arrogance, which is simple vice.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
But you also talk about the code of the gentleman.
I'm not all that familiar, but I'm just kind of
like we've lost the gentleman behavior in our modern day
politics that are out there. I'll let you kind of
unpack that. And you also in the book reference novels
like Charles Dickens and things that we should learn from there.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, you see, there was kind of an invention of
the idea of kindness in the nineteenth century. That's where
I got my story about as Christine Anderson's Little match Girl.
The idea was, this is the middle of the Industrial
Revolution and it's making a lot of people wealthy, but
it's bringing prvery close up so we can see it.

(10:53):
And the way I look at it is, you know,
you know, a vast expansion of wealth in the Western
economy is wonderful, it's great, and a luxury good is
a welfare state. I mean, one of the virtues of
having a really, really rich society like America is we
can afford to look after people. I mean, we don't

(11:16):
want to throw around money at people who certainly don't
deserve it or don't try to get it. But if
you've got a person out there mozill and can't look
after himself for herself, you know, it's one of the
luxuries of living in a rich society that we can
take care of people like that. I mean, the richer
societies are the most generous societies. So there's no kind

(11:39):
of conflict between lacking free markets and having a you know,
a welfare state. That's fine, or having private charities that
work really well in America for people. So that's where
Dickens comes in. As for the gentleman business, you know,

(12:00):
you never saw a Western where the good guy shoots
somebody in the back. You never saw the western where
the good guy draws first, right. I mean, you think
about it, and that's all part of the code of
the gentleman. I mean, I talk about it in hockey.
There's a code in hockey about looking after your teammates,
and that's it's not vicious. Want to fight in hockey

(12:24):
and you say to somebody else you want to go,
and so you give me the opportunity. If they don't
want to fight, that's fine, you know. But if they
want to fight, that's when you drop your gloves after
you say you want to go. That's that's uh. Yeah,
that's the same story as you know westerns where people
shoot it up. There's a code of chivalry built into it.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's a good book. I've only I've only seen parts
of it yet. I'm waiting for my copy of Frank Buckley,
author of the Roots of Liberalism, One Faithful Knights and
the Little Mash Girl, taught us about civil verst you.
I just got a message from someone on Texas said,
what's the Little Match Girl again? Okay, I know it's
in the book. People got to read the book. But
somebody's curious, say, asked me what that means in the title.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Sis say again the.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Little match Girl. Somebody asked me what they The story.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Has Christine Anderson, and the idea is this is the
poor girl who the only money she gets she sells matches,
and she's outside of a restaurant where people are eating
and she looks inside. It looks so jolly and they're
so wonderful. She lights the matches, see it better and
warm her up, and she ends up letting all her
matches and she's kind of freeze again. And so it's

(13:39):
a story that makes you feel sad and empathetic for
the Civil Match Girl. You know, you want to take
care of her. So you know, this is contemporaneous with
Dickenson's stories about you know, David Copperfield growing up penniless
and all that. So, uh, you know, part of our

(14:02):
tradition in the West is we worry about people left
behind and we take care of them, and we take
care of them publicly and privately. But that's also part
of liberalism. So you know, so we don't have to say,
you know, we're ungenerous, right, you know, the LUF tends

(14:22):
to assume that we're all penny pinching skin flits. Well,
that's not part of our tradition. That's no conservatism either,
so you know, embrace it. It's part of our tradition.
We look at after our.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Own Frank Buckley F. H. Buckley author the book Roots
of Liberalism, and again a compelling book. I think you'd
enjoy it, kind of going back on the history of
what the classical or genuine liberal is. And you may
be liberal and not know it by that classical definition,
even though you have been by wearing proudly the label conservative.

(14:58):
Actually you may be more of a liberal than you realize. Frank.
If somebody wants to get a copy of the book
or follow your work, where's the best place to do.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
The best thing you do is order up on Amazon,
you know, and it's there for you.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You got the Roots of Liberalism. F. H. Buckley, Frank,
I appreciate you hopping on the program. Good discussion and
it's some thought provoking stuff, kind of reframe some stuff
because again we look at the world of politics and
the discussions we have today based on modern day labels.
But there's a lot of history and a lot of
legacy and a lot of things that we can learn.
And he goes back to the novels of Charles Dickens.

(15:32):
He goes back to the Code of Chivalry, as we
talked about the Code of Gentlemen and Hans Christian Anderson.
He goes pretty far back and lays the groundwork that
says true liberalism is under attack in America. And listen
to this. True liberalism is under attacked from both the
left and the right. Let me say that again, true
liberalism is under attacked from both left and the right.

(15:55):
And those of us who probably are defined by true
liberalism to know that we're under attacked by both sides,
and you've got to know how to defend that true
liberalism and the tradition that it represents. All right, Jimmy
Lakey is my name. Glad to have you. As I mentioned,
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(16:15):
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(20:15):
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(20:36):
this guy's already here. He's smiling and he's cheering. I've
already made regional manager.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
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I followed him on I think on the social I know,
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(21:01):
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(21:22):
out there for you to enjoy. All right, let's go
to this ballot's coming out here, and I want to
encourage you to vote and start getting rid. There's fourteen
measures on your election ballot this year that you're going
to get fourteen, and I know the tendency of most
people is going to be the just kind of I'm
going to mark more for the president. I'm going to
vote for Kammella. I'm going to vote for Donald Okay,

(21:44):
that's good, round of applause for you. How have you vote?
Just use that right to vote. I'm going to vote
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Caraveo or Lauren Bobert, or I'm going to vote for
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(22:05):
figuring that out. And then you got fourteen measures on
the ballot that if you don't vote, you're gonna get
some really stupid stuff passed in Colorado because he's on
the ballot for a reason, because there's some organization or
some people passionate about this that wanted this to pass.
And maybe it's bad to pass, but they wanted to pass.
And if it passes, it's going to be because you

(22:27):
didn't research. You and I didn't vote, and then they
were passionate and they got people out to vote. So
you're gonna have to do a little research and go
to Complete Colorado dot com. Let me go through Mike Rosen.
You remember him doing talk radio in Colorado for many
many years. He's got his piece up at Complete Colorado
about the fourteen ballot amendments. He does a real simple thing.

(22:47):
He says, if I happened not to know about a
particular judge, I vote yes. He says no, other or no.
Otherwise I don't cast to vote. So he undervotes. Rosen says,
I if he really knows them, he votes. But he
doesn't just vote no. If he knows them, he votes
yes or no. Otherwise he undervotes. That's a strategy. I
appreciate that. I know some people that just vote no

(23:07):
to all of them, which in Colorado might not be
a bad thing because most of them have been appointed
by Jared Polis or John Hickenlooper. But so you figure
extra thing. But here's what he says. Amendment G, which
is the property tax exemption for disabled veterans, Yes, he says, yes.
Property Proposition Amendment H Judicial discipline procedures. Yes, it creates

(23:29):
an independent board to help judge judges unethical conduct. Constitutional
bail exception for first degree murderer. Yes, he said, the
repeal of the death penalty by the state legislature in
twenty twenty inadvertently made people charged with first degree murder
eligible for bail, and this restores the power of the
judge to deny them bail. Repealing the definition of marriage

(23:53):
in the Colorado Constitution. M Jay Rosen says yes. But
he saysctisens Colora of Supreme Court world the same sex
couples have the right to marry. Language in the state
constitution that defined a ballid marriage as the solely union
between men and woman was rendered contradictory to current law.
So let's get rid of it. Modify constitutional election deadlines,

(24:15):
he says, No, I mean again, there's a lot of
different a lot of people are releasing their voter guide.
Democrat control of the state legislature, all state wide offices.
The only power that scenting citizens have is the ballot
initiative process. Amendment K squeezes the time do citizens have
to collect signatures and file petitions. So you've got all

(24:36):
the things. These propositions on ballots because citizens have put
them on there, and this would be really restricting how
long they get to do that constitutional right to abortion?
He says. No, he says when they overturned it. The
Democrat majority of the color of the legislature responded passed
the most radically permission pro abortion law in the nation.
Amendment seventy nine was set it in concrete in the Constitution.

(24:58):
The measure would also repeal the ban on government funding
for abortion, forcing tax payers who morally oppose for abortions
to pay for them. Membus seventy nine. Rosen and myself
are both no on that constitutional right to school choice. Yes,
this title speaks for itself. Retain additional sports betting revenue.
Let the government keep it. No, I'm sorry that's going

(25:18):
to be taborized and if there's extra to give it
back Proposition KK. And that's an excise tax on firearms
and ammunition. Again, it's a tax increase. No prohibit bobcat
links and mountain lion hunting. He's a no. I am
as well. We're pretty similar on our votes here. One
twenty eight Parole eligibility in crimes of violence. Yes, it

(25:41):
extends prison time for violent third time defenders read that
veterinarian professional associates. I'm a no on that one. I
think I'm trying to figure that Rosen's a yes on it.
I gotta do some more research on Proposition one twenty
nine funding for law enforcement. Yes. Establishing all candidate primary
Hell no. And that's Proposition one point thirty one is

(26:02):
the sleeper on your ballot. That isn't just no, it
should be hell no. It eliminates all party primaries. There's
no more Democrat primary, no more Republican primary. And you
basically get it and replaces our two party system with
just this bulk of people. Everybody gets on a ballot
and the top four voters get vote getters get on
the ballot in November, and you can see the creators,

(26:27):
by the way, supported like George Soros, overwhelmingly they're crazies
out there. In practice, it's been manipulated. At least ten
Republicans states have already worked or banned because it becomes manipulated.
It sounds kind of idealistic and pollyannish, but in fact

(26:48):
it basically in a lot of places like Denver, Boulder,
Fort Collins, you end up with not a choice. Even
if you know that your candidate, the Republican's not going
to win. You don't even have the right to vote
for them because they're not on the back. And so
Proposition one thirty one could be the single most detrimental
to democracy and the beautiful state of Colorado, in my estimation,

(27:10):
is a yes on that. So vote no on Proposition
one thirty one. Lots of resources out there, there's no
excuse to not. When you get that ballot, start doing
the research. Now, print out the voter's guides you like,
listen to the voices you appreciate, and you've got that
blue book in the mail, and again vote. You got
to vote all the way down the ticket because if
you don't, I guaran damnt of the activist will and

(27:32):
they'll enact their will upon the people of Colorado. Everybody
stand by Laky on the radio six hundred KCl scroll

(28:16):
across the bottom of the screen is that small businesses
are bracing for the impact of the port the strike.
And that may be the case, but I mentioned this
at the seven o'clock hour, that six o'clock hour when
we started the show, that every time there's a thread
of supply chains crisis in America. America seems to be well.

(28:40):
America seems to run for toilet paper Americans very much.
I guess America very much. Values are clean behind because
there are stories circulating out there that, let me read
it to you, that stores are talking that people are

(29:01):
rushing off and stocking up on toilet paper. There's no
need to do so they're stocking up and people are
saying stop it. Most of the toilet paper that we
have in America is over eighty percent of the toilet
paper comes from US, Canada, and Mexico. It's not brought
in on boats. But Americans have been buying toilet paper
like in crazy amounts because of the port strike, and

(29:22):
experts say, don't panic over the toilet paper, It's going
to be okay. I just find that of all the
things that there would be a rush on, I mean
we're early days into this port strike. It just started
like forty eight hours seventy two hours ago, and of
all the things that people are like, oh my god,
we're going to run out of stuff, supply chain issues,
they're going to be lack of maybe some cars aren't
going to have some of their imports on the lot.

(29:43):
You're going to have some bananas. Maybe a shortage on that,
but it mays run off of buy toilet paper. It's
the same way with the COVID. What's the one thing
we ran short on supplies or COVID it was the
big one early on, was just a toilet paper throughout
the entire thing, toilet paper. But again, most of the
toilet paper comes from U S. Canada and Mexico. It's
not brought in on boats. So if you've been panicked

(30:05):
and heading off to get the TP, just relaxed. It's
gonna be okay. You're gonna be You're gonna be just fine.
Gonna be okay, I promise you. It's that's what they're
telling us. The experts say there's no need to panic
on the toilet paper. But I just just I still
find that funny that anytime there's a story about a
shutdown or a strike or something, the Americans what maybe

(30:28):
maybe maybe a problem. I've got it by toilet paper. Okay,
just that's the first thing everybody thinks. So all right,
very good, all right, nice to have you here. But
I know the pink Floyd Well, Dan, David Gilmour and
Roger Waters who make up Pink Floyd have been at
odds and arguing each other for years, and now they
can put all of that fighting behind them. And I've

(30:50):
got the story here. The Pink Floyd battle is over
because they've just sold their their library. They just sold
their full catalog and no more battle. Oh yeah, for money.
Pink Floyd sold their music catalog and their name and
likeness rights as her inn il name, image and likeness

(31:11):
to Sony Music. They have sold it for four hundred
million dollars. Four hundred million dollars, So David Gilmour, Roger
Waters admitted fighting. They've been arguing. Now they can take
the share and they can stop the fighting. You know,
you're gonna you're gonna groan when I say this. I'm

(31:33):
gonna say it. All that money is just another brick
in the wall for them. That's it's all it is anyway. Congratulations.
Four hundred million dollars, split it down the middle, two
hundred million. What's two hundred million between between each you know,
but four hundred millions split in half between enemies or
former friends? All right? Goodness, Yeah, there's the story. Pink

(31:54):
Floyd has sold it so to Sony Music. Sony Music
gets that sheer Bieber. I guess I think this is
a deuced Roy Biebers just sold his for like he's
going to get for the next twenty five years. He
sold his music at library up through something like two
thousand and a certain day. Anything before that, anything he
creates now it's still his, but they're gonna pay him
like twenty five million a year, forty million a year

(32:16):
for like thirty years and plus a lumps of it.
That's a good deal. That's a good deal. Even rather
than radio, where I'm the redhead and stepchild and greatly
abused in my career, I should have, I guess, started
to become a songwriter. I think I could have a
skill for that. Maybe is there still time to do that?
Because I could sell my library. Listen, if Pink Floyd

(32:37):
sells their library for four hundred million, hell, I'd be
happy to sell a library for four hundred thousand. I'm
cheap like that, Everybody stand by Laky on the radio. Listen,
the bricks in my wall are a lot cheaper than
the bricks in their wall. Evidently, stand by six hundred
k cool. Second half of the program coming up with

(32:59):
Brian Maloney Red Wave America,
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