Better By Association

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Lindsay Konlande, executive director of IREM Houston and TSAE’s 2026 Association Professional of the Year, for a conversation about leadership, resilience and finding her place in the association community. Konlande shares how she “fell into” association management and eventually returned to IREM Houston, where she stepped into the top leade...

In this episode, host Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert, welcome Charles Smitherman, PhD, JD, MSt, CAE, CEO of the Association of Professional Rental Organizations (APRO), for a conversation on leadership, advocacy, and the evolving role of associations in the age of artificial intelligence. Charles shares how his background in law prepared him for association leadership, reflects on APRO's success in advancing meaningful ...

In this episode, host Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert, sit down with Jennifer Jackson, executive director of the Texas FFA Association, to discuss her journey from spending 15 years as an agricultural science teacher to leading the nation’s largest state FFA association. Jennifer shares how she joined Texas FFA during the pandemic in late 2021 and unexpectedly stepped into the executive director role just eight mon...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE sits down with Erika Boyd, president & CEO of the Texas Travel Alliance, for a conversation about leadership, mentorship, and the unexpected paths that often lead people into the association world. Boyd reflects on her “fall-in” journey into associations after responding to a newspaper ad, and how her career evolved from communications and advocacy into executive leade...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Jancy Darling, CEO of Darling Promo and TSAE Board member, for a conversation centered on entrepreneurship, adaptability, and the power of relationships in the association space. Jancy reflects on an unconventional career path that led her into associations and ultimately into building her own business, sharing how a willingness to say yes, learn quickl...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Kristen Philips, MBA, CAE, IOM, executive director with Stringfellow Management Group and a TSAE Board member, for a candid conversation on leadership, strategy, and sustainability in association management. Kristen reflects on her unexpected path into the profession and shares lessons learned from two decades working with association management companies. Sh...

In our Season 4 premiere of Better By Association, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Jodi Ann Ray, CAE, CCE, IOM, executive director of the Texas Society of CPAs, and Eric Curtis of Curtis Strategy, to discuss the major shifts expected in associations over the next decade. Together, they explore how geographic boundaries are fading, why governance and strategic planning must evolve, and what the future ...

In this special holiday bonus episode of Better By Association, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Juan Bendana, motivational speaker, confidence expert, and opening keynote speaker for the 2025 New Ideas Annual Conference. Together, they unwrap the power of embracing uncertainty, strengthening trust, and leading with authenticity—timely reminders as we close out the year and look ahead to new begi...

In this episode, recorded live at TSAE’s New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Christian Malesic, MBA, CAE, CMP, IOM, an eight-time CEO with more than 28 years of leadership experience. Christian shares his remarkable path from Air Force officer to association executive, highlighting the strategies and mindset that have guided his success in organizational t...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Dr. Tracey Wilen, the closing keynote speaker at this year's New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio. Dr. Wilen shares her unconventional path from the world of fashion magazines to leadership roles in technology and manufacturing, highlighting how resilience, curiosity, and adaptability shaped her career. The conversation explores the major forces reshapi...

In this episode, recorded live at TSAE’s New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Pam Donahoo, FASAE, CAE, CEO of USFN - America's Mortgage Banking Attorneys. Drawing from her distinguished career with organizations like American Mensa and USFN, Pam shares lessons on leading through transition, engaging multiple generations, and fostering trust through transpar...

In this episode, recorded live at TSAE’s New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Jenifer Sarver, Principal at Sarver Strategies and keynote speaker at this year’s New Ideas Annual Conference. Together, they explore how clear, authentic communication can strengthen associations and build trust in times of change. Jenifer draws on her b...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Gloria Terry, CEO of the Texas Council on Family Violence, and the 2025-2026 board chair of TSAE. Gloria shares her inspiring path from Chamber of Commerce executive to nonprofit leader, driven by a commitment to creating meaningful change. The conversation explores the Council’s multifaceted work—from legislative advocacy to crisis response&mdash...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert explore how associations can harness the power of artificial intelligence with guests Jennifer Mitchell, CAE, of the Association of Texas Professional Educators, and Emily Stamm of Betty:AI. From first steps to future visions, they share real-world stories of implementing AI, including how it's being used to personalize member experiences and solve sector-specific ch...

In this episode, Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Tracy Ginsburg, Ed.D., CAE, executive director of the Texas Association of School Business Officials. With over 40 years in association leadership, Tracy shares how she helped transform TASBO through strategic planning, legislative advocacy, and a strong focus on member value. She offers insights on overcoming fear around finance, the power of data-informed d...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert chat with Angela Davis, MBA, CAE, CEO of the Society for Pediatric Radiology, about the leadership lessons that have shaped her journey. Angela shares how she navigated the leap to CEO, the power of building a strong remote team, and her strategies for staying grounded amid uncertainty. She opens up about imposter syndrome, adapting leadership styles, and the ongoing...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Aaron Wolowiec, FASAE, CAE, CMP, founder and president of Event Garde, to explore what’s shaping the future of meetings and events. Aaron shares how he unexpectedly found his path in the industry and offers valuable insights into the lasting effects of the pandemic, shifting attendee expectations, and the increasing costs of AV, food, and beverage. The ...

In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Avi Olitzky, president and principal consultant of Olitzky Consulting Group, to explore the unique and often complex relationship between association CEOs and volunteer leaders. Avi shares insights on the role of emotional intelligence, strategic planning, and shared purpose in building strong CEO-volunteer partnerships. The discussion covers best practices, ...

In this special episode, recorded live at the TSAE Women's Summit, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with confidence-building expert Marli Williams to explore the power of self-trust and personal transformation. Marli shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, strengthening confidence in both individuals and teams, and practical strategies like curating a "support wall" and recognizing personal strengt...