WUWY: Dating In the Work Place + Talking To Carlos Watson About His Legal Battle

Have you ever shot your shot at work? Tell us about it. Carlos Watson Talks Indictment, Ozy Media Charges, Legal Battles, Judge’s Goldman Sachs Ties + More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are now.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's Angela what I call her? Yea?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
All right, it's way up with Angela. Yee, I'm here
beat out here.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Well that's right. What's going on? Angela?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh my goodness? Next week we're a week away from Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Damn? What did a year ago?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You think?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
So?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
You know around this time twenty years ago, the week
of Thanksgiving is when I first started doing radio.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Wow, that's serious, Damn twenty years. I will never.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Forget that because I was so nervous and I worked
for three I just remember working three days and having
those two days off like Thanksgiving your Friday, but being
like I cannot wait because I don't I didn't know
what I was doing. I was like, what's happening here?
It was like our tough three days for me?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
How are you going to celebrate?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
And good care?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm being home. My family's coming over the day after.
That's a whole nother story, because yeah, that's going to
be a lot for me.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'll be there with the plate hand.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
There'll be plenty of food. All right.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, today we have Carlos Watson joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Are you aware of who Carlos Watson is?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, I'm not, but you're going to inform me.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Have you ever heard of Ozzi Media?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:12):
I have?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right, do you remember it was like this whole
big scandal and he ended up getting found guilty of
you know, basically fraud, Like wow, yeah, he was raising
money and it was whole, this whole thing. With this
phone call, Goldman Sachs. He's facing up to thirty seven
years in prison basically is what we're getting to. But anyway,
he is going to be calling us today. Okay, we

(01:34):
couldn't see him in person because he's on house arrest,
but you know, it's a very important story. He was convicted,
but he's talking about the judge had these conflicts. Feels
like a whole conspiracy. A person wrote an article in
the New York Times. It was an expose. They were
somehow involved. It's just a lot. So we're going to
talk to Carlos Watson today. But let's start the show off.
And I know you want to shine a light, yes,

(01:56):
So when we come back, beat out, it's gonna shine
a light on somebody, and then you're going to shine
a light and read some love.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's way up.

Speaker 7 (02:03):
Turn your lights on, y'all, spreading love to those who
are doing greatness.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Shine the light on, Shine a light on. It's time
to shine a light on.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
It's that time.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's way up at Angela. Yee, I'm here beat outs here.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well it was beat us.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I am beat that. Who you want to shine a
light on? First of all, I want to shine a
light on my kid.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:23):
Yes, she got straight a's on her report car. She's
in the sixth grade.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You shure that's your kid.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (02:29):
When I was her age, all I got was straight
ass for bad grades.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I saw your report card, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Sure you want to see it.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It wasn't too case. She got straight A.

Speaker 8 (02:37):
Straight age and she also made the cheerleading team. So
I'm really proud of her.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Wow, you made the cheerleading team. Looking my report card, Angela,
and let me see. Let's look at this report card
that you. I can't believe you had a.

Speaker 8 (02:47):
Lot of DEDs. Five that's a fifty five.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, I see a five on here, I see a
fifty five, a sixty sixty. Yeah, you didn't even break
seventy five seventy five in gym.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
It was a dark time.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Shout out to your daughter. What's your name?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I can't. I don't want to say because it was crazy,
but you know, she knows who she.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Is, but she's cute.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I like when you FaceTime yes, she's a great and
he tries to hide their face yes, and then she's like, okay,
all right, well, congratulations to you as straight a student. Definitely,
the apple falls really far from the trade. Now, Valentine,
who do you want to shine a light on?

Speaker 9 (03:21):
I want to.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Shine the light on my self because I jump wrote
a book and the name of my book is called
My Black Vote Doesn't Matter. And let's talk about something
that happens through voting history and the thing that we
have to go through when it comes to voting. And
this book and this book also I discussed Fluff. I

(03:42):
discussed you in the book because I believe that you're
off a very influential when it comes to us as
black people when it comes to vote. Paying more attention.
This book is very important.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, black vote doesn't matter. That sounds okay. You voted though, right.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Definitely voted.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
I'm hurt right now bow.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah me too? All right, Well, thank you for calling
Shina light on you, Valentine, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That was Shina Light eight hundred and two ninet two
fifty one fifty. If you couldn't get through, you know,
we love to hear from you. You can leave a
message for last word, and when we come back, we
have your yee tea little baby graduated from Harvard?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
What beat out?

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
All right, we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's way up, they saying the rooms.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
From industry shade to all.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Of gosp out send Angela's feeling that.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
EyeT, it's way up with Angela. Yee, I'm here, beat out.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Here, well, beat out? Thank you? Jacob.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Oh, great, let's get into some yet.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
So Antonio Brown was on Kresha please and the teaser
is out.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Man, man, that's gonna be it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It'd be interesting to see what this whole interview is like.
But here is what went down on this teaser. Definitely
felt like he was shooting his shot.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You want to get married?

Speaker 9 (04:53):
Why you want to?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Man?

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Now, I'm s you ready to give me a shot?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
So how many kids do that?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
So?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
How many bay rooms?

Speaker 6 (05:00):
We got?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
All of them?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I got ct That's always an excuse, I know, right,
because people really believe that.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, it's a real thing, and he.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Might be serious.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Look at his hair.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Geez, all right, well bow wow.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Amarion, Tray and Tray soon are going to be headlining
the Millennium tour that's coming back March seventh. Also on
that ticket plies Boci, Yin Yang, Twins, Ray J, Sammy,
Bobby B, Pleasure, p Nivia and special guests Rick Ross.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
That's a book bill right there.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I know that's gonna be a full night of activities.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
By the way, speaking to Nivea, have you seen Eat
Slay Love on Peacock that's not that's the show with
her with Tammy Rivera and with her Tammy Rivera and
Eva Marcel.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I got to take it out. They actually went to.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
They went to Vietnam, and that was the trip that
they took someplace I would never have thought, let's go
visit Vietnam. But honestly, it's it's, you know, really interesting
to see love shows that show you other people's culture.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's why I like ninety moving right along.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
That's like a tourist destination, Let's go to Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Not but that's what I liked about it.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's something that you would never think, All right, Coachella,
that lineup has also been announced, so headlining Lady Gaga.
You're gonna love this Green Day post Malone. Travis Scott
designs the Desert.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
What I guess the Brothers from.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
The Wall South Jesus's Travis Scott.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Designing the Desert? What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
What is Travis Scott designs the Desert.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
He's a special guest, you know, he's the artistic director.
But he's gonna debut a new era of music on
both weekends of the festival. And he's also bringing Cactus
Jack to the Desert for a one of a kind
immersive takeover.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
So he's like the interior decorator.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't know exactly what this means, but speaking of
a pack bill, I mean here, here you go, thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's the pack bill for you right there, so you
have a chance to see.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
And he's like, no rappers. Missy Elliott's on here. That's good.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Let's see who else.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Megan the Stallion's on there, He Pain's on there at
three six, Mafia Charlie X.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh well that's not really yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Glorilla Glorial Okay, we love Glorilla.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, Mustard okay, Todd Alas signe shaboozi.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
You're gonna have like two minute sets.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
All right.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, anyway, little baby, Congratulations he graduated from Harvard. Yes,
he's really excited. He's posting about it and listen. Back
in March, Viz went on Instagram to show was love
and support for him for going back to school. He said,
my twin really went back to get his degree at Harvard.
So proud of my brother. So it's like a certificate, right,

(07:41):
it's a degree in business administration.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Oh so it's like a certificate. Then I don't think
it's accredited.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well I'm sure from what I've heard, because I do
know people who took that course, and so do you.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, it does teach you a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Remember Swiss was very excited about it and the people
that he met taking that course.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Okay, you know, to mitigate anyone's up, maybe.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
You should take the course before you could say anything.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yes, maybe I do. Now he's gotta get a job.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
At College Hill, all right, an ll cool j He
said he was the first to wear Air Jordan's when
it comes to hip hop, all right, and he said
Michael Jordan was a rookie.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 10 (08:18):
I can't take credit for everything, of course, not because
hip hop did so much for me. But what I
can say is I made a reasonable contribution to the culture.
I mean, even my first album cover, I had the
Jordan sneakers on when he was a rookie. I was
the first person with the Jordans on on the radio
album cover. Everybody was wearing Adida's informers bro that's true. Okay,
look at Queen's trends.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
All over that picture aged well because that whole outfit
that he has one. We're to this day later, yeah, today,
all right, well that is your yet when we come back,
we have about last night.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I was about last night?

Speaker 6 (08:51):
What were you doing?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I got an awoard. Hey, we're gonna talk about it.
It's way up.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
So about last night, Yes, went down.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
All right, as way up with Angela. Yee, I'm here,
my guy beat out here. So what did you do
last night?

Speaker 8 (09:09):
I was recovering because the night prior went out to
a record room out here in Queens and had a
nice night.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
So I was just chilling.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Okay, what you do well?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I was actually at a benefit gala, fifty seventh anniversary
benefit gala for the Best Bedford Stuyvesant Restoration Corporation. So
best Eye Restoration Plaza is where I actually started doing
angela y day. So I did it there for a
couple of years before we ended up moving to the Barclays.
The mayor was there last night speaking Mayor Eric Adams.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Of course you'll go to envelope opening.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, I will say Senator Kevin Parker. There were a
lot of senators in the room, a lot of council people.
But Restoration Plaza for people who don't know what they do,
it's huge for development in Bedstye. There's like all kinds
of job training opportunities, funding, They have the Shirley, they
have theaters, they have they have a lot of stuff
there that I think is really important.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
So the stuff that they do in the community.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
He should be there, right, of course, he's just outside
too much. Rai's a promoter, Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Well, anyway, something like this I thought was amazing and
it was a beautiful room to be in. So shout
out to everybody who also got their awards as well.
I thought it was I actually had to get up
and make my speech. There was four of us that
got awards last night. My girl Nakohannah Jones was there
from the sixteen nineteen project, so shout out to her
and congratulations, you know JP Morgan Chase, shout out to

(10:36):
lisk No, I did not damn because I mean for what,
But things like this are really important to the community.
And I was telling them in my speech how I
had came up with an idea earlier in the morning
of things that I want to do because it's all
about closing the racial wealth gap, right, and so that's

(10:58):
what this is about being financial literate, and I really
want to do this the Eat Out. And I know you, yes,
thought it was a good idea, but it was so
funny because I mentioned it in my speech how we
always have to have ideas and always be trying to
think of things, and a lot of times I always come.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Up with ideas.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's just implement implementing those ideas sometimes our heart. But
it feels like this one is taking on a life
of its own, excited, and we're gonna make sure that
people do it, like in different cities. So I'm ready
to get it started, ready, so anybody the Eat Out.
The whole point of it is to support these restaurants
on off nights. So you know how like the weekends
could be popular, brunch is popular, but then on a

(11:35):
random Tuesday or Wednesday night, it's a little dead.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well let's make sure that we pick a different restaurant
and everybody goes out and supports this restaurant for that day,
and we do a different.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Restaurant, you know, every week.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I'm a fast just for it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, so I'm excited for that. But anyway, that was
my about last night.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
So thank you to Blonde Out, thank you to everybody
who came out to support These things are amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
They managed to raise quite a bit of money.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
JP Morgan Chase gave them three hundred thousan dollars and
funding because of.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
The work they do. It's a nonprofit, all right.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
We're talking about housing, economic development, financial literacy, all of
those things.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
All right. Well, when we come.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Back, I want to talk about this newest episode of
lip Service Black China and well Angela White, I mean
Angela White and her fiance Derek Milano.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
They were on the show.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
They're also on Love and Hip Hop right now, and
they were talking about how they met and they met
through a work relationship. He's a producer. She was going
to the studio to work, and here's what they said.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Who like to first?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Like, who knew first that this was going to be
a relationship.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I pursued Derek.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
She did.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
But it was crazy though, so I was I was chilling.

Speaker 11 (12:41):
I get a DM and she was like, hey, I'm
interested on getting into the studio automatically on one of
those people like if you want to work, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
The first impression of her when she she's about her business. Okay.
After that, I was like, hey, do you want to
go to the show with me? And he was like
he couldn't come. I was like, day, I was trying
to think you were trying to keep a business. I
got business? See you a business?

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I was a shot.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, well, let's see what you guys think. What do
you feel about liking somebody who you work with? Do
you keep it professional or are you like, well, I
might as well go ahead and shootusha and see what
can happen. How do you maneuver in that situation? Eight
hundred two nine two fifty one fifty If you like
somebody that you're working with, how do you go from
being professional to maybe meeting the person that is your soulmate.

(13:27):
All right eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
What's happy?

Speaker 6 (13:32):
You want to know?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
My name?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Way up with Angela ye turn me on?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
All right, it's well yuh buddy, Angela yee. I'm here
beat out here yo yo yo. And we are talking
about dating a co worker or somebody that works at
the same company as you. Maybe it's not a coworker,
maybe you're their boss. But how do you maneuver in
that type of situation? Is it strictly business at work?
Or should you shoot your shot? Here is what Derek
Malano and Black China aka Angela White had to say

(13:58):
on lip Service.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I pursued Derek.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
She did, but it was crazy though, So I was
I was chilling.

Speaker 11 (14:05):
I get a DM and she was like, hey, I'm
interested on getting into the studio automatically on one of
those people like if you want to work, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
What's your first impression of her when she she's.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
About her business?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay? After that, I was like, hey, do you want
to go to the show with me? And he was
like he couldn't come. I was like, day, I was
trying to take a business. He was trying to keep
a business.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
I got business.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean, what are your thoughts be that.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I think you gotta let love rule, man.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
You got to compartmentalize your feelings, I guess when you're
in the workplace.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
But it happens all the.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Time, right, it does, because sometimes people spend so much
time at work and that's the people who they're closest
to that it's hard not to but it happens.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
Like Joe and Miko on MSNBC. They're married, you know,
And I didn't never understood why they fired TJ. Holmes
and the white woman that he was with.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Amy, Well, I think they were having an affair, Amy,
but I think it was just a distraction, is.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
What they felt like, because he was married, she was married.
It's not a distraction, it's kind I mean, I don't know,
I can't.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Some places do have policies, though, and if you violate
those policies, then that's a I mean, I've worked places
where you're not supposed to date, and sometimes you're right,
it does happen.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
How can you legislate that? How can you police When
you have a.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Private company, you can say and that's when you have
to keep it, you know, private. But I think with
them and you know, listen, clearly it's working out for them,
so they they're probably each other's soulmates. But if you're
on TV every day together and then there's like all
this you know, relacious stuff happening, I think it looks good.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
I think it's good for TVs, good entertainment, you know.
So it just depends on your profession.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It could be.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I have never dated anybody who I worked with, except
when I worked at Macy's when I was in college.
At Macy's, not dated somebody like it was a summer job,
and so that was the only time. I don't think
it really mattered, you know, but I believe and you
guys could, Dan Navy, I think I keep like a
clear like separation.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't think I'm at work.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm never very like a flirtatious person or I always
when I come to work, I look at people like
that's my coworker, just like I would look at my
friends and their boyfriends and be like, that's her boyfriend.
Like I don't even look at people like that if
I know that's not a thing. What do you think,
Dan about you? Yeah, Deyfically, I think.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I'm pretty professional.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm professional in other ways, but when it comes to that,
I'm very professional in a relationship. Yeah, I'm like always
in a relationship, right, serial data, I know that.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
All right?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
All right, Well, I want to know what you guys
think eight hundred and two ninety two fifty one fifty Mike.
How do you maneuver if you want to date a coworker?
Do you keep it professional or are you like, what's up?

Speaker 5 (16:38):
You know?

Speaker 9 (16:39):
I met my uh I actually been married to my
wife for sixteen years. We met in the army.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
We were co workers.

Speaker 9 (16:46):
I was higher ranking slightly, and I hesitant at first
because you know, it's a rank structure, but eventually it
worked out. So I think in a work environment you
have to be careful, yeah, because some people really don't know.
I had to approach someone in that area. So you
just kind of make sure that it's a mutual agreement.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I love that instead of dropping and giving her fifty,
you gave her a ring.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
Now she got fifty first, I know, because look.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
If it doesn't work out, it also could be so awkward.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
Absolutely, yeah, And that's that's the thing you have. You
have to take all of that situation. But I was
very professional about it, so I approached it when we
were not at work and I just kind of let
her know how I felt. And then we've been married for.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Sixteen Okay, good, well, I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Thank you for calling and sharing that with us, and
congrats to you guys for a long successful marriage.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Give it them a twenty one gun salute.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Absolutely all right.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Take care.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Okay, hey Sean, talk to me about liking somebody who
you work with. How do you maneuver around that or
is it a big no no today?

Speaker 13 (17:48):
I say no because you know you have keep professing that,
you know by the bosses you know might not go
for that, you know, so I mean you can lose
your job today.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You can. You had a lawsuit, not the old way but.

Speaker 13 (18:01):
The new meatia day though na we not seeing no shot.
Were gonna keep it professional, you know, because you haters.
You got people that might might like the person that
we don't work. I mean I run my own business
marketing agency, okay, investing and stuff like that, so I'm
doing the hiring of day.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, because that's the worst.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
If you a boss and now you got people working
under you, and then imagine you date somebody.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
But then they're like, I only did it because, you know,
I felt like I had to, right.

Speaker 13 (18:27):
So that's that's why I think keep a professional today.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
The juice ain't worth the squeeze.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Man, I get these phrases from cliche.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
All right, well, thank you for calling. All right, well,
thank you guys for calling in. Make sure you check
out that lip Service episode. That's Black China and Derek Mline.
It's super cute, a lot of love in the air.
All right, and when we come back, we have your
yee tee and let's talk about Shannon's sharp and Kiki Palmer.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's a fun sit down. Yeah, it's way up.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
Sure, she's about to blow the lid off this, but
let's get it. Angelus feeling that yeeze. You come and
get the tea.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
All right, it's way up at Angela.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yee I'm here, my guy beat outs here, all right,
and let's get into some yet. So Tyler the creator,
they have this email pitch that he was sending to
the labels November twenty seventh, two thousand and eight. That's
when this was so how many years ago is it now?
Sixteen years ago? He said, I know you're like, what
the F is this? I'm seventeen and just released an

(19:24):
album for my mixtape. I composed my music and wrap
The tape includes other young f's my age that rap
and produce. I produce most of it. If you like
stereo lab the neptunes eminem were just new ISSU. You
really should check it out. It's not on any I'm
trying to be different. Eight Away, heartbreak crap or any
musswag is so fly ish, just crazy piano chorus over
f you lyrics, So please give it a shot, and

(19:45):
then at the end said sorry for the week side.
I made it an ish on low budget. Ha ha
yeah iebrand He's the same person.

Speaker 8 (19:52):
I see the emails like that when you run rap
radar dot com. Russ actually sent the email to that.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Are you still have it?

Speaker 3 (19:57):
You know what's funny when an artist had dm'd you
like years before, and then you when you hit them
up again or they dm you again, you realize, oh wow,
this person emailed me right like mad long ago.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
It always reminds me when you uh it broke drake
on serious remember.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
That, Oh don't quit your day? Yeah yeah, yeah, good time.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
That was super early before he was signed all right now.
Kiki Palmer was on Club Shasha. She's always a time too.
Kiki is a good Kiki, let's be clear. And she
talked about different things like being the bread womer winner
for her family.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Here's some things that we don't even think about the
pressure that that's like.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Here's what she said, my parents at their best, Nate
forty thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I was making that a show, Kiki.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know, is not normal that a child is to
provide of the family. Yes, did you realize what was
on kiki shoulder?

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Or did I wore like armor? I would do it
again for my family.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, her family did sacrifice a lie for her, and
she talks about that too, the balance of you know,
it's a lot of pressure, but it's also like they
have to sacrifice you to get to that point.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah, forty thousands a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
There's nothing like being able to take care of your family.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Though, Yeah, nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I would have known soon, you bro all right.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
She also went on there and had a good time
talking about remember when Shannon Sharps sex tape. Oh yes,
all right, well, what like the audio having sex or whatever, which,
by the way, I feel like that got swept under
the rug, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
But anyway, here's what this was like.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I experienced the same thing, you know, in another movie
that I did, where the guy was I think he was.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I was seventeen and he was like twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
You like a moment a hunt.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's what Michelle said. That was a woman who who
was allegedly on.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
That recording with Shop makes me laugh every time he talks.
It sounds like a shay time. He sounds like a
sharecropper stopping.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
But let's not discount the fact that people go up
there and feel quite comfortable. They do to talk about whatever.
All right, congratulates relations to Designer and his girlfriend Joyce.
They are expecting. They had a gender reveal a panda
stop it. So congratulations to the two of them. So, yes,
he's having a son.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Are going to give him something for the registry, A little.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Baby boy, Designer?

Speaker 6 (22:15):
You know?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I actually I like Designer and Joyce that's my girl too,
So yes, yes we should.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Definitely.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Angela would be at the baby shower.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I felt like I missed it. Oh that was just
a gender reveal, So yeah, missed the gender reveal. I've
never been to a gender reveal me neither. All right,
now this story really upset you. Yes, you came in
here today and was like, did you see what happened
with Ti?

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Well?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
T I was going to get into a restaurant in Austin, Texas,
so he thought, and the bouncer at the door would
not let him in because he did not have his
ID on him.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, Here's what happened.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
As t I was leaving and confronting the bouncer who
turned him away something right.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Here, I need to get it so well and like
that and.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
Go keep me out of this man got on again,
walmart oft beside your shirt well with band? Clearly his
ID was it the only thing that was getting checked
at the door. You'll have these mom humbling moments.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, the bouncer was like kind of playing along with
it too.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, he's just doing his job.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I will say this though.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Sometimes what's really extra is you know he's old enough, right,
Like the whole point of you having to check ID
is if it gets rated and they're like this person
shouldn't be here there under age. TI is old enough,
you know, you know what I'm saying, Like, come on,
it's a little ridiculous sometimes because I've also seen them
like ID me and then not somebody else, and it's.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like you can't you know, come on, well you still
get carded angel.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I do sometimes, but that's the policy right at certain places.
But if it's t I and you know that he
is of age, because that's the whole point of ID,
you might not like, are you twenty one?

Speaker 4 (23:51):
He might Some of these guys age differently these days,
you know, so maybe he didn't know who.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
T Yeah, I was fifteen, but I don't know, sir.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
You don't look on it, and especially if you can
pull it up one and be like, look that's me
right here, that's my age, you know, like that's extra.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I get that he's doing his job, but it's like,
come on, all right, well that is your YEETI. When
we come back under the radar, these are the stories
that are not necessarily in the headlines. They're flying under
the radar, but you definitely need to know about it
anyway as way.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Up it's in the news that relates to you. These
stories are flying under the radar.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Uh oh, breaking news and under the radar it's me
and beat out here.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well it beat us right, all right?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Jesse Sama led his twenty twenty one conviction over that
alleged fake assault in Chicago has been overturned. They overturned
the legal consequences that he faced and suffered due to
the high profile incident. It was a very surprised ruling
for the Illinois Supreme Court. People are shocked this just happened.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I'm shocked.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, They said, we are aware that this case has
generated significant public interest and that many people were dissatisfied
with the resolution of the original case and believed it
to be unjust. Nevertheless, what would be more unjust than
the resolution of any one criminal case would be a
holding from this court that the state was not bound
to honor agreements upon which people have detrimentally relied.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
So he got off.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Basically, it's a technicality.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Technically, he's still love.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Jerry found him guilty in December of twenty twenty one
and five fel any charges, including lyon to the police
about this Hay crime attack. They also, by the way,
cited decisions in Bill Cosby's case in reference to this.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
So he had claimed that he was the victim of
this assault.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
But I guess originally they you know, had they can't
just go ahead and convict him on something when these
charges were dropped previously. So they said he had been
charged after entering into a non prosecution agreement with the
Cook County State Attorney.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
I remember that case.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, And you know what the thing is, the law
is the law.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
If they already told you this, and you know now
they're overturning this, and this is what he had hoped for.
People thought that it wasn't going to happen, but he
went and he made it happen. So congratulations, Jesse, smile.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I guess stay out the Chicago streets and listen.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
He still maintains that this did happen, right, because the
Chicago Police Department said that he recruited these the brothers
to help him stage this attack. He has denied those claims.
He said that there was no hoax and that he
was truly attacked that night. So no matter what, he
has stuck to his story and now got this case overturned.
Speaking of which, somebody else who is trying to fight

(26:30):
for his rights and justice, Carlos Watson, is going to
be joining us later on in the show. He has
a case that people need to be paying attention to
because he's facing up to thirty seventy years in prison
after founding Ozzy Media and investing his own money into
this company. But then, you know, being found guilty of fraud.
He's going to tell you what exactly is going on

(26:51):
behind the scenes. We also have the Way Up mix
at the top of the.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Hour, so let's do it. It's way up out like
they ajan like they am.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Alejane's feeling it all. This is yet way up.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
It's the way you put into like, yeah, I'm here
beat out here.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's right, all right.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
And Future has spoken about Drake and Kendrick Lamar's feud.
He was in GQ with Metro Boomin and he said
there was a beef. I didn't even know it was
a beef. I didn't know they had nothing going on.
I never participated in rap battles man. But he did
continue to talk about it, right mm hmm, and he
said he was just joking. But he also did say

(27:29):
that he's still confused by the fallout from Kendrick's you know,
the Big Three, it's just big me, and he said
that he belongs in that Big three conversation as well.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
He said he's supposed to be the one who gets mad.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I think Future has a case.

Speaker 12 (27:43):
Man.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
He's been putting numbers on the board.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Up for a while, so he's been quite consistent too.
And then I also feel like when he jobs, he
don't got to do no interviews, you know, he just
does what he.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Does and keeps it moving in a conversation. For sure,
lives his life privately. We don't find out about stuff
until other people tell us. It's never him, all right.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Well.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
In addition to that, metro Booman talked about his fallout
with Drake. He said it was due to personal issues
that really hurt and disappointed him. He said, not over
no girl or nothing silly like that. It was a
personal issue. If you take all the rap entertainment out
of it, it's like, have you ever been real cool
with somebody and y'all fell out over something? It happens
every day. It's just regular iss. It just happens to
have an audience.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, what's been broom for a long time?

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
What is there beef over?

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Then? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
We gotta asks. Let's call Drake up and ask him.

Speaker 13 (28:30):
You can do that.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I don't know if you still can, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
All right now, speaking of beef, Shaboozi fans beef and
right now now, it's interesting that Shaboozi has had such
an amazing year and his fans have taken to social
media to express how frustrated they are about him losing
in the Single of the Year category at the CMA Awards.
And you know the song A bar song, Tipsy eighteen

(28:55):
weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
It's just one week away from tying with Little Nas
Old Town Road featuring Billy Ray Cyrus for longest number
one hit, and definitely feels like he got robbed.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yes, it's a conspiracy, man, what's going on on that award?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
But nothing like your fans writing for you like that,
right all right now. Denzel is on the cover of Esquire.
Denzel's been doing amazing interviews lately, a lot of russ.
You could tell he's like, after I do eight more movies,
I'm done. But the things that he talked about is
that he's not a gangster. He said, those characters I
played in Training Day and American Gangster, it might look

(29:30):
like they were close to me, and I could tell
you they were, but I wasn't no gangster. I ran
with them real gangsters down there, but I was not.
Then he said, so let me not tell that loud
of you. I had one foot Industries, but I ain't
no killer. I can't think of a single role where
I would say, man, that's me, entirely me. He also
talked about not having a lot of actor friends. He said,
family friends sure, like Sam Jackson, his wife and Paulletic

(29:51):
go way back, and he and I go all the
way back to a Soldiers play in nineteen eighty one.
But now when I make a movie, I'm not trying
to make friends.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
We rap.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I'm trying to go home, you know. But yeah, he
doesn't consider people necessarily his friends. And then he said
when he lost the Oscar to Kevin Spacey in two thousand,
he said, I think I had won the Golden Globe
for Hurricane, but at the Oscars they called Kevin Spacey's
name for American Beauty. He said, I have a memory
of turning around and looking at him, and nobody was standing,

(30:19):
but the people around him and everyone else was looking
at me.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Well, he did get robbed for Malcolm X too. He
should have gotten then Oscar for that, and.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
He said, I don't want to sound like, oh he
went my oscar or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It wasn't like that.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
And they was talking the town about what was going
on over there on that side of the street. And
that's between him and God. I ain't got nothing to
do with that.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I pray for him. That's between him and his maker.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
They wouldn't give Kevin Spacey a couple of water nowadays.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And he said he stopped voting for the Oscars around
that time. He said, from nineteen ninety nine to twenty fourteen.
He said, I was bitter. So wow, they got robbed, right,
But you know what, it's nice for him to be
able to look back at that time in retrospect and
talk about what was going on because we never here.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Denzel, he's promoting this movie. Man about the podcast. All right,
well that is your yet when we come back.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
We have asked yee eight hundred two ninety two fifty
one fifty any questions you have, any advice you need,
We're here to help you out. That's eight hundred two
nine two fifty one fifty. Oh that's our joint right here. Yeah, Hello,
it's way up.

Speaker 7 (31:21):
Okay, everybody since with its relationship with career advice.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Angela's dropping facts, so you should you should know. This
is ask Ye.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
What's up his way up at Angela? Yee, I'm here
beat out here yep, and it's time for ask and
we have D on the line's good d Hey, how
you guys doing good?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
How are you?

Speaker 12 (31:39):
I'm good?

Speaker 9 (31:39):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
So what is your question for ask Ye.

Speaker 12 (31:42):
I'm a woman that's like in our thirties and I
have the older guy that I've been like we're in
friends for the past fifteen years, but I'm dating a
younger guy and it's not going too good, like like
five years.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So it's not going too well.

Speaker 12 (32:03):
Why he's like immature a little bit.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, So what's the problem.

Speaker 12 (32:10):
Well, the older is more caring and giving and understanding.
Where the younger guy he when he wants to be
messed with him? He wants to be messed with You
understand what I'm saying, Like he want to give his
time when he wants to be bothered or Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
So are you trying to choose between them because it
sounds like not that one of them is right, she's torn. Yeah,
you can't choose from the best of the worst, it
might be time for a reset.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
How much older is the other guy?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, it feels to me like now.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
That one of them is right, you have complaints about
both of them. You don't sound enthusiastic about either one
of them. So why are you with them?

Speaker 12 (32:49):
Well, I'm with the younger guy, and I was trying
get out, you know, because normally I'm with older because
I think they're more mature and can do more.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
But you're working. No, no, it's not. Yeah, you tried it,
it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I would like companionship, but the right companionship, right, yes, correct,
All right, Well, it feels like now that one of
these is the right companionship for you. And let me
tell you, you're not going to find the right person
messing around with all the wrong people. That's a ball, right,
It's time consuming. It kind of blocks you from being
able to see the right you know, to get with
the right person. It doesn't keep you open minded for

(33:27):
those things. Why waste your time?

Speaker 12 (33:30):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
You don't have to be in the relationship for the
sake of being And when the worst is being in
an unhappy relationship.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I'd rather not be with anybody than be unhappy, and.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Holidays are coming up, you're gonna have to want somebody
to come with you.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, holidays are you know you think you should wait?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, Thanksgiving And honestly like wait, just wait until you
get the right person.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Don't be with somebody just for the sake of being
with someone, right.

Speaker 12 (33:55):
I appreciate that. Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
All right, no problem, All right, Well that was asked
ye eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty. Any
question is a good question. We don't discriminate, all right.
And when we come back, we have Carlos Watson joining us.
He is the founder of Ozzi Media, but he's also
facing up to thirty seven years in prison. And what
we're trying to decide right now, and what we want

(34:18):
you to see is if this whole conviction is a
targeted conviction or what his punishment should be. When you
hear about what happened, and when you hear about the
players in this the judges ties all of those things,
you're going to rethink what you heard in the media.
So it's important for you to get this information firsthand.
We'll be talking to Carlos Watson.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's way up.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
If you want to know my name, Way up with
Angela ye on?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
What's up as Way up with Angela yee. I'm with
my guy de Watkins and we have Carlos Watson on
the line. How are you feeling today, Carlos, You know,
I'm good.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
I'm blessed. It's obviously a difficult time, but I'm here
and I'm glad to be with you.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
All right, Well, we want to make sure you are
very educated on what's going on here. So you're the
founder of izy Media. Tell us what's you envision when
you created izy Media.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
You know, I started almost ten years ago, started with
my mom and my dad, So we started here in California.
I'd worked in media at CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, so together
we came up with the idea for a news company
that wouldn't kind of recycle the same headline stories, but
would find up and comers. So whether it was an
up and coming politician, basketball player, writer, actor, we wanted

(35:31):
to introduce you to, you know, the next Ceylon Musk
and the next Lebron James. And so that's how we
started Ozzi. That was the vision, a bold new platform
that would surface what we called the new and the next.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
What was some of the biggest successes you had with
Ozzi in those early days.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
There were a bunch, you know. I loved introducing people
to a young comedian from South Africa before people knew
Trevor Noah. I still remember the piece we did on
a bartender before she was AOC. I still remember Isa
Ray coming to Ozzie Fest before she was doing Insecure.
I remember this California high school athlete before he was
Aaron Judge. So I think our team, we had a

(36:08):
team of reporters d all over the world whose job
it was was to find things before they showed up
on NPR, or on X or on other places, and
so they were really good at it.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
And you started the festival as well, the Ozzi Fest. See,
I just want to set the stage on what was
happening at Ozzi before things ended up going left right,
because this was a platform that was built legitimately, and
then things did end up taking a left turn. Right
now you're at home. I wanted you to come into studio,
but to like, I can't travel right now.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Correct, As you said, things were growing and going I
was very proud of what we were doing around twenty
nineteen we were doing so well Angela that some of
our competitors wanted to buy us. One of the folks
who was most serious about it was BuzzFeed. But even
as they increased the offers, the first one was one
hundred and twenty five million, then one hundred and seventy,
then two hundred and twenty five million, two hundred and

(36:58):
fifty three hundred. You know, I had a moment at
that point. My mom had passed, but I at a
moment with my dad where he was like, do you
want to do this? Is that the right way to
do it, or do we want to keep building? And
we wanted to build something that we thought could be
around for a long time, and so we decided not
to do it. And you know, on the other side
of that, the folks who tried to buy us when
they couldn't buy us got angry about it, and eighteen

(37:20):
months later the guy went to the New York Times
and while at the New York Times wrote lies about us,
smeared us and almost took us under. And we found
ourselves last year on the other side of an indictment.
They indicted both me and they indicted the company, which
is really unusual I mean, just to give you a
sense of how unusual it is to indict not just
a person but a company. They did indict FTX, they

(37:43):
did indict Weinstein Company. They didn't even indict Run and
so we knew that there was something fishy. Besides the
fact that the people who indicted me are in Brooklyn,
and as you know, Angela, I don't live there now.
I have an officer. I don't have anything to do
with Brooklyn, even though I like it. I live in California.
Suspicious from the beginning, And as you're saying, after a
trial this past summer, coming home.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Dee Watkins is here with me and we are talking
to Carlos Watson, the founder of Ozimedia. Carlos Watson has
been convicted of securities for our conspiracy wire, for a
conspiracy and identity theft. We'll talk more about what happened
and the connections that the judge had to Goldman Sachs
when we come back. It's way up, yeahs, turn me
up here we go upgain.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
This is way up with Angela.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
What's up? Its way up with Angela.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yee. I'm here with journalist d Watkins and we're talking
to Carlos Watson, the founder of Ozimedia who's also been
convicted of securities for our conspiracy wire, for our conspiracy
identity theft. Carlos, I want to ask you this because
you are facing up to thirty seven years right when
you get sentenced.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So what can be done between now and then?

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I know, right now you have the troubling case of
Carlos Watson, whose son is next right, and so we
watched that on YouTube and people can watch that and
see more in depth everything that's been happening in the courtroom.
You have one juror who said that she was a
lone person that thought you were not guilty, and what
happened to her when she tried to voice her opinion,

(39:09):
and how she wasn't quite sure and didn't understand what
was going on, what this case was about. What is
your hope now as we're waiting. Is it you're hoping
for a shortest sentence. Is there anything that can be
done now that you have been found guilty.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
I am hoping for what my sister calls an explosive miracle.
It wasn't a fair prosecution and it wasn't a fair trial.
The judge in this case acted. Harvard law professor Ron Sullivan,
who's overturned more wrongful convictions than anyone in history, called
my trial the most egregious railroad he's seen in thirty years.
He excluded our witnesses. We asked the government put on

(39:46):
twenty five witnesses. We asked to put on thirty, including
Ozzi investors, Ozzi executives, Ozzie lawyers, Ozzie clients. He allowed three. Angelo.
We asked to put in seven hundred and seventy seven
pieces of evidence, including some aroused confessions, including the analysis
of the Yankees former CFO who said, not only did
Ozzie not inflate its revenue, if anything, it understated it.

(40:09):
He interrupted us, He called our lawyers crazy, and they
ultimately gave the jurors incorrect instructions. He basically said, if
you think anything that happened in that company was untrue,
you can sentence that guy to twenty years. Angela, who
could pass that test. I know Dia said some stuff
that probably wasn't true. Should he go to jail for

(40:29):
twenty years? And that is what Miss brown Simon's was
saying until a white jury literally stood over her and
in her words, went nuclear What would have happened if
miss Brown Simon was a white juror and some brothers
stood over her and screamed at her and made her
vote guilty. You don't think we'd be stopping the presses
right now?

Speaker 5 (40:48):
And who was that?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Who was on that jury?

Speaker 6 (40:51):
Guess how many black men were on that jury? And zero?
How many white men were on that jury?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Seven?

Speaker 6 (40:58):
You live in c How is that possible? How can
you have a jury of my peers d where there's
seven white men and zero of Uh? How does that happen?
Where they are winking at the prosecution literally, winky.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I'm with Journalis D.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Watkins and we're talking to the founder of Izimdia, Carlos Watson.
He's facing thirty seven years in prison.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Think about what thirty seven years is d I mean,
just so that we're really clear. They are arguing that
there was a fraud in which people lost millions of dollars.
Elizabeth Holmes d they argue lost two billion dollars. They
gave her eleven years. You're saying that mister Watson, actually
no one lost money, but mister Watson could have led

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people to lose fifty million. And he's gonna get thirty
seven and this white woman stole two billion dollars with
a fake blood machine and she gets eleven years. The
average murderer, Angela gets sixteen and a half years. They're saying, well,
they're going to give me two times as though I
committed double murder. D Bernie Madoff's thirteen years, fifty billion

(42:02):
dollar thing. They're saying, I'm more worried about this guy.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Normally we would have last word here, but when we
come back, we have more. With Carlos Watson, the founder
of Ozzi Media. He's facing up to thirty seven years
in prison for wire fraud, securities fraud, identity theft, but
before he gets sentenced, he wants us to look at
the many conflicts that he says that the judge had
while he presided over the trial. It's way up, tuh

(42:26):
you way up with Angela? Ye more, Now what's up
his way up with Angela? Yee.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'm here.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Journalist de Watkinson's here. We're talking to Carlos Watson, who's
the founder of Ozzi Media. He's currently facing thirty seven
years in prison. He's been convicted of identity theft, securities
for our conspiracy and wire for our conspiracy. Does it
concern you that, being that you haven't been sentenced yet,
that the judge could see this and this could make
things worse?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
How much worse? Conn?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
But what I'm saying is because I mean, just real.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
Talk, if people don't stand up to there's a young
brother named Rashaan Russell who they did this to in
Brooklyn last year. I want everybody who cares about this,
who thinks this is Carlos Watson Bull, look up the
name of Shawn Russell, twenty two years old, first in
his family to go to college, went to Babson, working hard,
was trading bitcoins like a lot of other young kids.

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And at the end of the day they want to
say that he was running a fraud. Really, because he
was trading a little bit of bitcoin, you're gonna give
him fifteen years and they're doing this with our taxpayer money.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Do you feel like people aren't covering this the way
that they should.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
Be one hundred percent? You and I both know Angela
that if I were white and I was running a
media company that was healthy and hired people, and someone
in Brooklyn tried to prosecute me, it's like you getting
prosecuted Angela by Utah. I don't live in Brooklyn. I
never had an office there, I never had clients there.
I didn't have nothing to do with that except Ben Smith,

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the white guy who wanted to buy me and his
dad who is a judge. That tell you that Bensman's
dad is a judge. You think all this is accidental.
What I'm saying to people is if we allow them
to keep snuffing out black excellence, I promise you it
won't stop with me and so Angela in terms of
what they could do, they should reach out today to

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their senators to whether it's Jillibrand, whether it's Corey Booker,
whether it's Dick Durban, whether it's Lindsey Graham, and they
need to say enough because again, it's not just about me,
because I guarantee you, the minute they put me in
that cage, they are going to send a celebratory note
around to every office d And I promise you they

(44:40):
are going to open up one hundred two hundred more cases.
I promise you they will. And so I just have
to keep praying that this isn't the end of the story.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I'm with journalist d Watkins and we're talking to the
founder of OZI Media, Carlos Watson. He's facing thirty seven
years in prison. I'm grateful that we had a chance
to do this just because I know there's some artles
online and we want to make sure we hear though
from you, you know, directly, And I know you have
this documentary that people can watch, the troubling case of
Carlos Watson, whose son is next. But I just do

(45:10):
think it's important for people to hear what's going on
from you, because here's some very unflattering articles, and you
were able to discuss, you know, the ins and outs
why certain things may be framed the way that they
have been, and really help us understand this overall.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
The one other brief ray of sunshine I should tell
you is that my lawyers went to the second Circuit
and pointed out that the judge in my case owns
millions of dollars of stock in Goldman and Google and
the companies involved, and not only didn't tell us, but
did the opposite said that he had no conflicts. And
when we found it out last month and we raised it,

(45:47):
he now is trying to say too bad, too sad,
too late, and we're saying, uhh, that's not okay that
your best friend was in charge of part of the investigation.
That's not okay that you co invest with these companies
literally billions of dollars. It's not okay that you still
have millions in stock in these companies. That's a problem. Everyone,
including me, deserves a fair trial. And he got nervous

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when we went over his head to the second circuit.
So the one thing that could happen here is those
judges could step forward and they could say, you know what,
this is not okay.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
All right, Well, thank you so much for joining us.
We're going to be following this really closely and carefully.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
And bless you, d thank you. I appreciate your time.
Thank you both.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
You can watch that full interview on my YouTube channel
Way Up with Ye, And of course when you see
the clips, if there's any more questions, if anybody wants
to do any more outreach, get some media done, we
will have that information post it on each clip. You guys,
have a great rest of your Thursday and we will
see you tomorrow. And don't forget Thanksgiving is next week,
so make sure whatever you're planning to do you get
all those orders in now, like I'm trying to do,

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it's way up