Intuitive Self: IFS + Intuition + Spirituality with Natalie Deering

In this powerful and deeply validating conversation, I sit down with Jessica Tomich Sorci, LMFT, Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist and creator of the Mom Parts Method, to talk about something so many mothers silently carry:

Mom parts.

The anxious ones. The angry ones. The overwhelmed ones. The “I should be better at this” ones.

And the truth that often feels radical: There are no bad mom parts.

Jessica brings her expertise in Interna...

In this episode, I’m joined by IFS therapist, consultant, and author Max Littman, LCSW, for a deeply meaningful conversation about his groundbreaking new book:

Internal Family Systems Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out

Max’s work centers the lived experiences of gay and queer men through an Internal Family Systems lens, offering a compassionate, culturally attuned resource for healing after the coming o...

In today’s intuitive conversation, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS therapist Catherine Cope, a clinician and clairvoyant who beautifully bridges Internal Family Systems, somatic awareness, intuitive development, and spiritual presence. Catherine and I first met while serving as program assistants in an IFS Level 1 training, where a moment of vulnerability opened a doorway between us: I shared with the group that I’m clairv...

In today’s expansive conversation, I sit down with Danielle Carron, a therapist, spiritual guide, and mystic who bridges Internal Family Systems (IFS), Somatic Experiencing, meditation, and consciousness work. Danielle and I first met at the IFS conference and immediately bonded over our shared love of quantum physics, the mystery of time, and the sacred nature of healing.

At 19 years old, Danielle survived a traumatic rock-climbin...

What happens when the healing world of Internal Family Systems meets the imaginative art of puppetry?

In this episode, I sit down with Mark Saltzman, LMP — a self-proclaimed puppet nerd, bodyworker, grief educator, and IFS practitioner — to explore how puppets can bring our inner parts to life in the therapy room and beyond.

Mark and I chat about the serendipitous way we met at the IFS Conference, and how puppetry became a playful ...

Fresh from the 2025 IFS Conference and in celebration of the podcast's 100th episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS enthusiast, Tammy Sollenberger, for a lively and heartfelt debrief. In true synchronicity, we somehow kept signing up for the same seminars—without ever comparing notes beforehand. We talk about our parts, our paths, and maybe a touch of destiny.

Tammy opens up about what it’s like to be an “IFS celebrity” ...

In this episode, I sit down with one of my IFS mentors Chris Burris, LMFT, Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems (IFS) Institute, to explore one of the most challenging and misunderstood aspects of our inner world: the inner critic.

Chris shares his personal journey with IFS and how the model offers a radical permission to approach ourselves—and our parts—with more love, kindness, and curiosity. Together, we discuss:

My guest today is Jenny Hayo (she/her)—teacher, guide, and practitioner of wisdom traditions for over 25 years—to explore the living, breathing experience of Self-energy and how it shapes our inner and outer worlds.

Together, we dive into:

• What it means to embody Self-energy instead of holding it as just an idea.

• The many ways people describe Self-energy, and how language can both help and limit us.

• A playful, unexpecte...

In this episode I sit down with Heather Smith—Certified IFS therapist and founder of The Moxie School®—to explore the profound intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and psychedelic-assisted healing.

Heather shares her deeply personal path into both IFS and psychedelics, sparked by a lifelong inquiry: How do people truly heal? Together, we dive into the ways psychedelic experiences can deepen parts work, the essentia...

What happens when Internal Family Systems meets the mystical? In this episode I’m joined once again by therapist, teacher, and spiritual guide Chris Hancock to explore Transpersonal Internal Family Systems (T-IFS)—a sacred weaving of parts work with direct connection to the Divine.

Together, we explore how T-IFS opens portals to higher realms of healing, the many expressions of Divine love and light, and how spiritual beings—includ...

What if our inner parts weren’t just fragments of the psyche—but vessels designed to receive divine love?

My guests today are Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer, and Jonathan S. Rose—co-authors of the new book Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg. Together, we explore the playful spirit that brought this project to life and the profound insights that emerged at the intersection of...

What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention?

In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—on...

What happens when a couple says “yes” to deep healing together—guided by MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and parts work?

In this soulful and honest conversation, I’m joined by Steph and Craig, co-hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, to explore their transformative journeys with MDMA-assisted therapy through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, we talk about what it’s like to prepare for these powerful sessions, working ...

In this deeply personal episode, I sit down with my brother, Sam Deering, to explore the layered journey of identity—how it forms, evolves, fractures, and heals over a lifetime.

Sam shares openly about his search for belonging through many identities. We dive into big questions like Who am I? and Where do I belong?, weaving in the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) to understand how parts of ourselves are shaped by survival, soc...

What happens when you’ve had two open-heart surgeries before the age of 40, and you’re still fighting the healthcare system—every single day?

In this powerful and deeply human conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Jacob Kendall, healthcare advocate and metagerontologist, to talk about what it means to advocate like hell—for yourself, your loved ones, and the millions of people navigating chronic illness and a broken healthcare system.

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What if your birth chart could help you find the parts of you longing to be witnessed? What if the stars weren’t about prediction—but about reflection?

In this rich and expansive conversation, I’m joined by Sarah Temel, licensed trauma therapist, IFS practitioner, and founder of No Bad Charts, to explore the deeply supportive intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and evolutionary astrology.

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Longing and heartache—two deeply human experiences that touch us all. In this conversation with Susan Poznyansky, LICSW (they/them), founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), we explore the tender terrain of what it means to long, ache, and hold space for the parts of us that carry these emotions.

Susan and I share a love for lakes—their stillness, their depth—and reflect on the parts of us that feel more cautious around the vastness of...

What if the key to clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation was already within your body—waiting to be awakened? In this episode, I sit down with my long-time mentor and friend, Jessica Lichaa, a fascia and nervous system specialist, to explore the profound connection between fascia, stored energy, and nervous system regulation.

We dive into the body’s role in healing, the impact of tension and unresolved energy, and how awakening t...

What if creativity could become one of your most powerful tools for self-discovery and healing?  In this episode, I sit down with Lynn Motley, a licensed mental health therapist and Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, to explore the powerful intersection of Soul Collage® and parts work. We dive into how Soul Collage® serves as a creative and intuitive practice to externalize and connect with different parts of ourselves...