3 and Out - YouTube Ticket, Rodgers Signals, Pay Drake Maye, Week 16 3 for the $$$, Mailbag

John explains why he’s thrilled about the future of Sunday Ticket on YouTube, how the confusion over Aaron Rodgers’ hand signals shows he’s too hard on younger players, if Bill Belichick needs to start hiring outside of his Patriots family to stop his decline, and why he has zero problem with teams cutting a $5 mil check for a star CFB QB like UNC's Drake Maye. 

Then, he runs 3 Week 16 NFL games by Action Network sharp Stuckey to see if there's professional agreement or disagreement on this week’s picks, and answers listener questions in the Middlekauff Mailbag. #Volume #Herd

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lot going on, So basically Thursday through Monday, no more podcasts,
and then we will have one on will record on Tuesday.
It'll be out on Wednesday. I think my plan is
to go Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so maybe three podcasts, just

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Stucky as well. We had him on earlier this week
to get some gambling content and yeah, let's uh, let's
enjoy the next couple of days. Give out some presents. Uh,
have some booze wat some football enjoy the fan. But
let's start with the story I saw today, which I

(02:29):
think is pretty fascinating. And if you've been listening to
me for a while, you know where I stood on
Amazon getting Thursday Night Football adapter die, Like, hey, listen,
this this isn't two thousand twelve. If you're bitching a
moaning about streaming, I don't know what to tell you.
And if you were one of the people like Amazon product,
like you don't have Amazon are you? Are you living
in uh through the real country, Like I don't know

(02:50):
one human being, including my seventy five year old mother,
who doesn't utilize Amazon, let alone know how to utilize
Amazon Prime. It's gone very well now when it comes
to YouTube and YouTube TV. I have experienced when I
moved to Scottsdale, I became a cord cutter and in
my office several TVs. I went with YouTube TV, and uh,

(03:10):
I've been using it now since whenever I moved into
this office early September, and it is very very easy
to use, Like honestly doesn't get any easier, so to me,
the transition people bitching and moaning about Fox CBS and
you know, I I just can't listen to people that
are anti streamers, because here's the reality. Anyone under like

(03:33):
sixty should be able to seamlessly figure it out, and
anyone over sixty, I'll give you a little bit of
the benefit the doubt. But all these people have children,
all these people have neighbors. If they want to watch football,
and a lot of people do, they'll figure it out
and it won't be that difficult. It might cost you
another twenty dollars to improve the speed of your internet, well,
so be it. You know me, personally, I think YouTube

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TV is the way to go. I have been blow
in a way by not how not only how easy
it is to use. And I've had friends that told
me over the years, like, bro, you should get on it,
and I've just hesitated. And then obviously this when I
moved into this office in Scott's dalees like why why
don't I try it? And I can't like it anymore.
So when I saw this, I was very excited. Now

(04:18):
it has been clear for a while that the NFL
was going to transition either to Amazon to Apple. I
honestly hadn't read not that I'd read too deep into it.
I just assumed that it was gonna go to Amazon
or Apple, so I would put YouTube Google in that category.
And I think it's going to be fantastic. These companies
are built to operate these type things. And this is

(04:39):
the first year I've ever got Sunday Ticket. And my
take on Sunday Ticket is for the iPad, it's awesome
and for the phone, very easy to use. But when
I have to use it on my television and those
of you that are Sunday Ticket users, no, you have
to have like the Roku or the firestick to be
able to watch four games at once on your television.

(05:00):
I don't have that. I just have the app on
my you know, basically bottom screen that I go to,
like I pass YouTube DV and I go to Sunday Ticket,
and I can only watch a game at a time,
So I have to pick if I want to watch
it on my television. We're on my my devices. I
can have the four boxes. I guarantee you that YouTube
will have the ability and you're not gonna need some

(05:22):
external application to watch eight games at once. I can't wait.
To me, this is a no brainer, and I just
have absolutely zero time to hear anyone complain about it
being on streaming. Um, I think it's a no brainer
move for the league. And uh they continue dominating print

(05:42):
money too, and half billion dollars a year, probably an
easy deal for them to sign. From a football on
the field football perspective, there was a story yesterday. I
didn't see the story on Aaron Rodgers and his hand signals. Well,
if you were watching the Monday night football game, there
was the play towards the end of the game where
he did like you know, he he goes over from
his elbow to the bottom of his hand a lot

(06:03):
like a Major League Baseball you know, third base or
first base coach would do. And clearly Christian Watson either
didn't see it or didn't know what it meant. Aaron
Rodgers threw it to the dirt and Christian Watson went
to block and either the next day or maybe it
was the day before, there was an article that came
out with players on the record, former players like Sammy Watkins,

(06:27):
Jordan's love who leads the hand signal? Uh, I guess
meetings as as Roger said to Pat McAfee and then
other young players like Romeo Dobbs just talking about it's
a difficult process, not something we look forward to. It's
very very hard with the hand signals to get on
the same page as Aaron Rodgers, and then Aaron Rodgers
sit on Pat McAfee. The whole thing was bullshit. It

(06:48):
was a big nothing burger of it was made up,
even though it was players on the record, current and former,
all basically reiterating the same thing. Not easy to figure
out and like one thing, now we have concrete evidence
when it comes to Tom Brady, who is forty five
years old, high achiever, alpha, crazy, detail oriented when it

(07:13):
comes to his offense, and Aaron Rodgers, a thirty eight
year old all time great player. Intellectually, they are very
very very difficult for younger players to operate with. And
for whatever, we don't have specific reasons all the time.
With Tom, sometimes it's just he doesn't trust, very easy
to the offense was very complicated with Rogers. He's not

(07:34):
always easy to deal with. He feels very very comfortable
with older players, i e. Randall Cobb than he does,
you know, kind of putting young players under his wing.
Tom same thing, and I think anyone that's older knows
that the longer you're in a certain profession and the
longer that you and when I say master, obviously all

(07:56):
of us don't master to the level level Calm or
Aaron masters the craft. But the longer you do something.
If you've been selling real estate now for twenty years,
you've been through multiple recessions, multiple highs, like you've seen
a lot. So unless you're an extremely patient person, like
I know form for me, I'm not. I'm not very patient,
but I've had to actively think now that I'm involved

(08:18):
in the volume and it's not just me and one person,
maybe it's me and five other people dealing with a
lot of people. I have to communicate better and it's
still something that I actively work on. And anyone who's
listening to this, Like I said the real estate example,
the more and more younger people that that work under
you or that you have to deal with or you
work with, it takes you have to be very conscious

(08:39):
of how to work with them or else it's gonna
be not very seamless. It's going to be difficult. There
are gonna be lines of communication that are just lost,
and I think it's difficult for older players obviously Tom
and Aaron, So like realize sometimes when they're communicating to
another play it makes perfect sense in their mind. It

(09:03):
might to that younger player be like, they're speaking Chinese.
I remember Gronkowski, I forget where he was talking. Oh
is the Shop? And uh, I've never watched the Shop,
but it was a clip that came into my Twitter
feed years ago, and Tom and Gronk was basically talking
like Gronk sometimes had to look at Tom and be like, Bro,

(09:24):
you know this offense better than like Josh McDaniels and
Bill Belichick. When you're telling this first or second year
player what to do, they don't understand. You have to
be easy on them. And it was very, very difficult
for Tom to understand. Just like with Aaron this story
about the hand signals, Like it was clear when you're
watching Monday night football, then in Aaron's mind when he
did that signal, he one knew exactly what it was. Clearly,

(09:48):
Christian Watson had no fucking clue. Honestly, that signal might
have meant nothing to him. Honestly, it could have met
the opposite. But regardless, the hand signals and rogers are
are not resonating with these young players and are intimidating
because when you're a younger player. Think about this, if
you're if you're Garrett Wilson with the New York Jets one,

(10:09):
you don't even like your other young quarterback, but you're
not worried about earning Zack Wilson's respect, right. All you're
obsessed with is learning your craft, figuring out what your
coaches want, and then ITT's on Zach Wilson to figure
it out, like get you the ball where when you're
Romeo Dobbs, Christian Watson years ago and to Kiel Harry
whoever dealing with Tom dealing with Aaron Rodgers, you're really

(10:31):
fighting two battles. You're trying to earn the respect of
your position coach and your head coach and your offensive coordinator,
and you're trying to earn the respect of the Hall
of Fame quarterback. Anyone who's been new to a job
knows like it's it's difficult. There are pressures. You're trying
to get to know everyone. You're trying to figure out
the hierarchy of the company. And then obviously whoever your
boss is, you know, whoever your superior is, You're you're

(10:53):
trying to impress them. Well, in most jobs, you don't
have multiple superiors, like you answer to one guy well
as a young receiver or young skill guy playing for
Rogers or playing for Brady, you're it's kind of a
double whammy because you view the coach or the coordinator,
whoever the guy is calling the offense, and then Tom
or Aaron as kind of equals. So it's like, God,

(11:15):
I got two guys that are in my ass, and
the more and more that you it's just natural for
young guys to get a little tight in some of
these situations when you feel the pressure coming down from
you from multiple people. It's easy to see why this
doesn't always work. And like I get why Aaron in
his mind thinks like he's easy to deal with, because

(11:37):
most of us feel once we start to figure out
what we're doing, we understand it. And this is why, like,
I could never have been a coach. I'm not a
good teacher. I don't have the patients. Well, part of
being a good coach is you have to have patients
part of being an older VET. And ultimately Aaron needs
Romeo Dobbs and Christian Watson like it behooves him for

(12:00):
them to know what's going on. So even if he's
not patient and thinks that it takes too long for
them to learn, he better figure it out, because if
they want to make a playoff push, they better get
on the same page. And this hand signal thing is
clearly a a bumpy roller coaster. Yesterday on on the

(12:20):
Instagram streets was DM and back and forth with I
think it was a Patriot fan just kind of going
that this guy reached out and said that he thought
Bill was kind of getting unfairly, you know, dragged through
the mud in the situation of obviously he lost Tom Brady,
you know, the greatest player arguably in the history of
the league, let alone probably like a top five athlete ever.

(12:43):
And he just went through the list of coaches from
Josh McDaniels, the Flores, just all the guys over the years.
Ernie Adams his right hand guy, not with the Patriots
since they were like twenty years old. And it's hard
to overcome that. And I don't disagree that part of
Bill bellett Checks downfall is he's lost basically every coach

(13:03):
he's ever had, right except Patricia and Judge who had
to come storming back. But it's you get to a
point where Bill has hung his hat like on the
way he structured his coaching staff, which is basically his
organizational chart is he found guys in their early to
mid twenties, He paid them little to nothing, and he

(13:25):
taught them everything, and then they worked their way up
from p O lead Caserio to Flores the day Ball
to Josh to you know, Patricia, you dame him and
they learned the secret sauce to a point. Obviously, build
and teach him everything. But he could then place them
at all his position coaches, his coordinators, and he felt
very comfortable. He got to teach them everything they needed

(13:47):
to know. And one thing he's always struggled to do
is go outside the family and hire people that are
running back coach from another team, hire a defensive coordinator
from college, things that basically every other coach does. And listen,
I've known a few really really rich guys that that
are older, and I would say they are very, very stubborn,

(14:10):
and the last thing they're gonna do is adapt and
truly change in their seventies. That's not the way it works.
And in fairness to them, to get super super rich
for the most part, you know, in your seventies. You
have done things that have been very, very successful. So
part of your the reason you're at where you're at,
and Bill is seventy years old, is because of everything

(14:32):
he did in his forties, fifties, and sixties. So in
his mind, why the fuck is he gonna change? Here's
the problem, though, he doesn't have a choice. If he
doesn't change, his career is gonna end, and it's gonna
be pretty ugly, right, and ugly for his standards. He's
such a good coach, he's never gonna have, you know,
some three or four win season, but struggling to get

(14:52):
the seven seed, in his mind, is probably pretty embarrassing.
That game last week, blowing it on special teams, getting
a punt lock, having the final play is the most
unpatriot like. Honestly, that was the most unpatriot like game
you'll ever see. And I think that Bill like look
at Andy Reid for example, who, like Bill, has taken

(15:13):
a lot of young coaches over the years and top
them the rope started them on the lowest level. His
personal assistant Sean McDermott started once upon a time. Brett
Veach started once upon a time as the assistant to
the head coach. He's taken quality control guys like Doug
Peterson over the years and worked their way up to

(15:34):
become coordinators. But he also goes outside the family. Eric
b Enemy hadn't worked with Andy. He had been a
running back coach for the Minnesota Vikings. He had been
an offensive coordinator for the Colorado Buffaloes, and he just
hired him Dave Tobe, who had been the special team's
coach for the Chicago Bears forever. These are type hires

(15:55):
that build that. Now. He'll bring Matt Naggie back, Steve
Spagnola back. But the defensive coordinator currently at l s
U is the former linebacker coach for the Kansas Chiefs
for the last three or four years when they've been
really good. You know where he got that guy. He
got him from the University Kentucky because he was their
linebacker coach and a good coach. Like he is not
afraid to hire people from outside the box. Pete Carroll

(16:19):
does the same thing, brings guys up, but he's also
who's his offensive coordinator right now? He got him from
the Rams. And if you're not willing to do that,
because you're gonna get to the point, especially Bill, you
don't have the time to just find all of these
guys that are twenty three years old and then in
five years they turned into the next Josh McDaniels or

(16:40):
the next Brian Flores. Times not on your side. So
obviously one of the big pushes this offseason gonna be
Matt Patricia can't be your offensive coordinator because I still
feel very confidently by saying, no other team could have
pulled that off, no Power five college program and definitely
no NFL team. I'm not saying you couldn't hire map Tricia.

(17:00):
I'm not even saying you couldn't make him your defensive coordinator.
He had been the defensive coordinator for teams that went
and won the Super Bowl. He had worked under Bill
Belichick for over a decade. His resume was impressive, even
if his head coaching was a joke. You could make
him your coordinator, I would have no No one could
argue with that. We could then when the season went on,
argue how good he is as a coordinator, but he's

(17:22):
a defensive guy. To make him your offensive coordinator after
a year for basically just replacing Lardie Adams is in sanity.
But in Bill's mind, well, why wouldn't I take a
guy who I've trained and then turn him into this role.
No other coach would have done that. And for the
most part, Bill is right a lot more than he's wrong.
And that's the reason that they've had a lot of success,

(17:43):
because you can argue with me all you want about
like the importance of Tom, and it was all Tom, Like,
come on, man, I'm not Obviously Tom played an enormous role,
and I don't know what the pie chart is build
the Tom, but I'm thirty eight years old. So basically
when their rain started, I was eighteen ish and watched

(18:03):
twenty plus years because they were on Even living on
the West Coast, you're getting five or six of their
regular season games in prime time, and then obviously all
their playoff games. Even if you're not a Patriot fan,
we've all watched, I would say, on average, seven Patriot
games this season over decades, and they hung their hat
their point of difference Beside Tom, who was the greatest

(18:26):
quarterback ever obviously was clutch. And in a weird way,
this is gonna sound like I'm diminishing. I'm not trying
to the greatest game manager we've ever seen. He will
just do whatever it takes on that drive to move
the ball and score touchdowns. But they're coaching staff hung
their hat on out, thinking you out, detailing you, making
moves that you did not see coming over decades, and

(18:48):
they're not doing that anymore. Like what is their point
of difference? Like, what is Amazon's point of difference? Well,
I can go shop on their website and they deliver
it to me in at most forty eight hours. Their
efficiency is unmatched. What's Apple's point of difference? Their their
products are elite. I'm talking into an Apple, uh Mac

(19:08):
or a Mac. I have an Apple, I have an iPhone,
I have an iPad. They all work flawlessly. Just an
elite product. I'm wearing Nike shoes. What's Nikes? You can
argue there, you know, actually had a good day on
the stock market today. Like, what's Nike's point of difference?
It's not their products. Their products actually aren't that great.
Their marketing in my life, their marketing far in what

(19:29):
they're the best marketed company I'd argue in my life.
Now is that sustainable? It's gonna be hard over time, right,
there's only so many Michael Jordan's only so many tiger woods.
But for thirty five plus years, no one marketed better
than Nike. Hell I just watched the Pepsi documentary Pepsi
and Coke Pepsi, these companies marketing was huge. Well, Belichick

(19:50):
hung his hat on details and coaching and Tom Brady
And now he obviously doesn't have Tom Brady and the
details and coaching or slipping. So he's either going to
and here gonna be the hard part. Even if he
was willing to go outside the family, which I think
would be very, very difficult for him to acknowledge, it's
time to do what coach who is good and has

(20:11):
options would want to go to Bill. And I was
always told this when I worked in the business. The
reason guys would scout and you know, kind of get
their foot in with Bill. They didn't New England didn't
pay much, you know for like scouts and definitely young
assistant coaches relative to the rest of the league. You're
guaranteed to win, and then you guaranteed to win, you

(20:33):
become a bigger name, and then you make more money
with other teams. Well, now you're not guaranteed shit because
part of the reason people are hesitant. It was like, well,
you're gonna win. There feels a miserable dude. Man, he's not.
You know, this is not a fun work environment. Now
you could argue football in general is not the funnest
place to be, but like Nick Saban, same thing. Not

(20:56):
a fun work environment. But you know what, you're guaranteed
to go to Alabama. The shittiest season you're gonna have
is gonna be tend and two and more than likely
every single year you're gonna be in the playoffs. And
what's gonna happen after a year or two. You're gonna
get promoted another place, you're gonna become a head coach,
you're gonna go back to the NFL. You're gonna go
chit ching. And I think for the first time these
last couple of years, like I wonder even if he

(21:17):
was willing buildings a little toxic. I'm not saying the
end is near, but it's it's kind of weird. Uh,
I guess not weird because, like I said earlier this week,
this is how it usually ends. It's kind of sad,
you know, it really is. And uh, last but not least,
I saw this story A lot of people have talked

(21:38):
about it, and I even talked a little bit about
it the other day about Drake may being offered. I
guess I didn't know the number. I just said Mac
Brown had acknowledged that teams were calling, and then Patton
or Doozy came out and said that he had heard
that multiple teams had offered five million dollars. And ultimately,
my take on I said it the other day, it's

(21:59):
pretty capitalism. I have no problem with it. Like now.
My other take is if I was in the business,
either as a coach, as an athletic department, or as
some of these boosters, I would have no problem cutting
checks to transfer players who I know are good and
are gonna be plug and play players. Last year, remember
USC when got Jordan Addison, Caleb Williams. Both those guys

(22:22):
come in kick as take names. If you were able
to get Drake May, Boom, immediate plug and play starter
if you're Georgia, if you're Alabama, if you're Ohio State,
you're competing for a national championship immediately, and the transfer
people I would if I had to allocate my resources,
because most of these programs do not have unlimited resources,
I would not be in the business of giving astronomical

(22:45):
amounts of money to recruits. I would. I'd probably go
like the rule of my resources are gonna be allocated
into transfers. Now, it's risky because the guy's transferring for
a reason. Because you saw a couple of years ago
the j when he went to Clemson, Well, I got
news for you. It was before N I L. He
got paid a lot of money. But once N I

(23:07):
L started, Dr Pepper gave him a shipload of money.
He's terrible, He's not He's an average player of best.
I heard of a program who told him no. If
I told you the program that told DJ no, you'd
be like, are you serious. I'm like, yeah, they do
not want them. Not because they don't want the N
I L stuff. He wants to come there and play.
They don't want him. They don't think he's good enough.

(23:30):
And I I just think that the recruiting, all this
money getting thrown around. I also think it's probably a
little overplayed. Like all these recruits now, Historically, this is
what I've always thought about the media was very disingenuous.
People have always got brown backs. College athletes in basketball
and football have always been paid to go to big
time schools. That's the way it works, and I never

(23:51):
had a problem with it, but I always thought it
was kind of a risky business because if you look,
if you just pull up recruiting rankings for the last
like ten years, just look at the top ten recruits
for the last ten years, some of them are gonna
be like, Oh, this guy's in the NFL. This guy's
killing it. Some guys should be like, who the hell
is that? I've never heard of that player? At least,
like I said, when you're getting a transfer, you go.
This guy started has a bunch of tape at Auburn.

(24:13):
I know we can play this guy, Caleb Williams. I
know he's sweet. This guy Drake May I saw him
throw forty touchdowns last year. It's it's very you have data, right,
It's it's why the draft is so difficult. It's why
so many draft picks miss. If Zack Wilson, instead of
playing that year at b y U had been playing

(24:33):
for the Jags and then had to go in the draft,
you'd probably have a better feel for how he would
look in the NFL. But that's not the way it works.
And I think what's gonna be fascinating moving forward is
the allocation of resources to this n I l And
they're gonna be some stories of kids that are gonna
try to sue that aren't gonna get their money, because
I know this. If I was a booster and I

(24:54):
gave a bunch of money and then the kids stunk
and then want to transfer, like those checks would stop.
What's he gonna do? Take me to court? Good luck?
You're really gonna do that. You're gonna get a lawyer.
Doubt it. So I think this thing, I have no
problem even kids that aren't in the transfer portal. It's
the wild wild West. Hell, I'm in the wild wild West.
I work on the internet. There aren't many rules on
the internet. When my kids, who I'm sure we'll probably

(25:15):
do some sort of business on the internet, there will
be rules and regulations left and right, just like in
ten twenty years with the transfer portal, there will be
some rules because I've always said, like coaches can leave
whenever they want, but there are under contract and if
there's a buy out, the other team has to pay.
There's no buyout, like ultimately Drake May. Let's just say
Georgia had offered him five million dollars, wanted to enter

(25:37):
the transfer portal. Nothing UNC could do. Maybe there's some
rules if I'm paying you a certain amount of money,
there's a buyout. I don't know. I don't have the answer. Honestly,
don't care that much because I kind of like the
drama and the controversies that come and seeing the coaches mad.
It's clearly there are certain things in life that deserves

(25:58):
some rules and regulations and that they'll come. But it's
just it's just natural. But you could also argue, like
the college football, like the NFL, very clear umbrella of
what works, what who's under contract, why coaches can't leave,
why players can't leave. When you're a draft pick, a
first round pick, you get a fifth year option, your
second round pick, it's only a four year contract. There

(26:20):
are just no rules in college football. And when you
just get lawless, no rules, sometimes certain cities in America
could feel like that, all hell can break loose. Right
when there are rules, at least someone has to follow something. Now,
what's fair and what's not fair? You know, we could
both sides. You're gonna have arguments on that. But anything
in the infancy, there's a learning process in a curve

(26:43):
and uh, I'm just fascinating to watch the play out.
I love the transfer portal and like I said I would,
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(28:36):
little early this week because of Christmas. Merry Christmas, Happy Honka.
Hopefully everyone's doing well. My man Stucky who you know,
I got a bad break because when we recorded last week,
we thought Mike White was gonna you know, battle through
seven broken ribs and in a broken abdomen, but he
was ruled out and Zack Wilson, who I I give
you the benefit of the doubt. Stuck. You never would

(28:57):
have bet on Zack Wilson um even though they took
a late lead uh in that game. But you know,
Zack Wilson's always gonna Zack Wilson is clearly a teammates,
especially as wide receivers do not like them. Uh. It
feels like we're recording this on Wednesday. They're gonna have
to roll as Zack Wilson again. That sucks. I mean,
Zack Wilson is gonna be the reason the Jets do
not make the playoffs in my opinion twenty one and

(29:19):
one on the season. You can find Stucky the Action Network,
the Action Network podcast Big Bets on campus college basketball's
rolling right now. I saw Texas is seven right now
and their coaches, you know, probably gonna go to jail.
So wild times in college hoops. Yeah, the Jets game

(29:40):
was annoying. I wouldn't have played it. I was shocked
at the market. The market so there was and I
mean it was Jets. I had some plus one on
the Jets and then it went to minus one and
a half went soon as Zack Wilson gets an outscoes
to plus one and a half, as it should as
he's a downgrade from like wait, and then they the
Jets took really s money late in the weekend. They

(30:00):
closed like minus two and a half, which I was
shocked by. Um yeah, and I never would have played them.
Some of the throws Wilson had in that game, just
some of the inaccurate throws. An awful pick one completion
where he just basically threw it up in the air.
Oh then Garrett Wilson shoved the guy out and made
the play. Yeah, um yeah, it's just it was awful. Yeah,

(30:21):
it's gonna cost him a playoff spot. Uh, they could
have still won that game, but he was probably the
reason why they didn't win it. And uh but yeah,
that's sometimes those are the the breaks that happened in the
the NFL. So we're on to me. What's crazy about
him is how terribly he is at just the most
basic football stuff, right, like a wheel route, just a

(30:41):
basic slant route. He obviously, you know, made some defenders miss.
He's pretty athletic, he's got a big arm, but he
is terrible. Like third and seven, it's like, oh, there's
gonna be a point before the plays even snapped, they
got no shot. Yeah, even the great the good players
that he did have, like he can buy time and
he's a mobile. But you know, some of the deep
throws he had because he has some talented receivers, they
were underthrown or just like chuck it up and a

(31:03):
receiver makes a play. But yeah, in that offense, you
have to complete short passes and you have to complete
into the flats or slant, and he's just um as
you said, it's so bad at the littlest things. And uh,
it's it's maddening to watch and curious to see what
the Jets do in the off season and next season,

(31:24):
is it Mike White, do they try and go get
a young quarterback another veteran so because look they're they're
an up and coming team with a town on that
roster and all the other places. That's just the missing piece.
What's gonna be Thursday night? I mean, if if Trevor,
it's gonna be harder. I mean, the Jet defense is good,
but you know, obviously quarterbacks don't go against each other

(31:44):
in a game. But when you do watch two teams
play like, you kind of get the feel of the
two quarterbacks, how they snack up against each other in
that gap. I mean it could be eye opening to
the Jets fans, like this could be it for Zack
Wilson with the Jets after Thursday night, I think yeah, especially,
I mean this Jackson was one of the worst secondaries
of the NFL. So if he's not, you know, looking

(32:08):
competent or at least semi competent on Thursday, and that
a loss on Thursday is gonna make it very tough
for them to have any shot to make the playoffs.
So yeah, prime time, there's a night playoffs, playoff lives
on the line, and he has a bad game that
you might never say. Okay, let's dive into some of
the games this weekend. You know that they control their

(32:29):
own destiny. Well, I guess they need Washington to lose
a couple of games. But the Packers feels like that.
I mean, it doesn't feel they do have some life.
They're playing Miami, who's lost several straight games too, obviously
three teams that are going to go to the playoffs. Uh,
this game's in Miami. You know, Aaron's battling a little
signal controversy with his his guys crushing him not knowing

(32:51):
the signals. But A. J. Dillon obviously left that game
on Monday night. As of right now, who knows. I mean,
he's a big part of kind of they become a
running team. But Dobbs and and Watson are coming on.
I think the Packers can make a run. You know,
it wouldn't shock me if they win the next three
games and you know, get that seven seed. But obviously

(33:13):
this might turn out to be their toughest game, uh
in Miami, depending on what happens obviously with New England,
and definitely the Jets Thursday night, Like I mean, they
start winning some games here, stucky, So this is a
big game. Yeah, the Packers. If they win this game,

(33:34):
you know they're gonna needs some help. But it's not
that it's not the most it's not the craziest sequence
events that's required for them to make the postseason, and
they have the vikings and the lines at home to
finish out the year. Um. The one interesting thing about
this game is that it's in Miami, But just like
everywhere this upcoming weekend, it's gonna be cold and there's

(33:56):
gonna be wind, And I think that really favors the Packers.
It's so it's not gonna feel like a game that's
in Miami, and yet Packers are getting healthier now it's
a team and I've talked about on the show. Yeah,
they've been pretty unlucky just on fourth downs in the

(34:16):
red zone. They're able to move the ball consistently, like
their success rates really high. They can run the ball,
and you've got you've got Romeo Dobbs back, which is
why they cut uh Sammy Watkins, and so they're I
think box tr should return this weekend. And they had
some injuries on the defensive side of the ball, but
they've kind of made some adjustments that are playing better

(34:38):
on that end as well. And their weakness still is
their run defense, but that's not you know, Miami strength.
And if you can make Miami running team, I think
that that's really what you want to do. And the
Packers have a great corner Gire Alexander, great past defense,
and they really excel at defending over the middle of
the field, which is what you want against this Mike

(34:59):
mc annual offense. So yeah, I took the four points here.
I think the Packers are trending in the right direction.
Dolphins are trending the other way. I know they've played
some good teams here, but they also, you know, before
then played four the worst defenses in the NFL. So yeah,
I think that this is a bit too many points.
Uh probably to me, this is this is gonna be

(35:21):
a field goal game either way. Well, this game probably
gonna be ice cold. New England hosting Cincinnati. Cincinnati probably
you know, you could argue the hottest team in the league,
maybe beside Buffalo, and or saying, I guess San Francisco
to New England. After that, you know, you could argue
the one of the worst losses in the history of
the sport. Not that they were gonna win the game

(35:41):
in overtime, but it wasn't. They were guaranteed to win.
But the when you lose like that, I just it's
hard to shake, uh that they you know, this is
must win territory for them. Now they finished right Miami Jets,
so that they still get the opportunity to play those
two teams depending on what happens to them, So they
could you know, kind of you know, claw their way back.

(36:03):
I don't know, man, I I guess I probably would
have had hammered Cincinnati in this game. Had New England
won that game, you know, you guess it's a kitchen
sync game for New England. They have to win. But goddamn,
they look freaking terrible on offense and then the Raiders
defense is so terrible. It like, I didn't think it
was that impressive of a showing, especially for the majority

(36:24):
of the first half. They were awful and it took
a Derek pick six for them to get back in
the game. So it's not like Mac Jones through three touchdowns. Um,
I'd have a hard time putting money on the Matt
Patrician Joe Judge led offense here with the New England Patriots. Yeah,
the coach, the coaching, uh is a bit of a

(36:45):
concern because, I mean, build some of the decisions he's
making just from a game management standpoint, but most support
it's a play calling is just way off and how
do they recover from that kind of loss? Just the
question to say, I think with the Colts, like what
what are the I mean, the Colts aren't playing for
anything either, but when you blow a thirty three nothing
lead and lose um and you're out of the playoff fund, well,

(37:05):
you see Maddie Maddie Eyes got ben for fulls today.
Yeah that's and they're like, who wants to come in
on Monday and prepare for a meaningless game? And so
the preparation is tough and we'll see if if they
show up. But yeah, I took the three half point
year I had Tampa last week to catching three and
a half at home against Sense I would make that

(37:25):
bet again. I mean there was if you look at
the I mean Tampa out gamed since he by two
d yards average. Too. They held Cincinnati to three point
eight yards per play, and they just I mean they
fumbled playoffs, four fumbles, they had off something a fake punt.
It's in the second half that on with Geo Bernard
that really turned the game around. But the Bengals, I mean,

(37:48):
the Bengals were like three and a half in Tampa
last week. Now they're going on the road again and
now you're gonna be dealing with lots of wind, freezing
cold temperatures, which obviously think benefits New England. Who wants
to be a running team. Um so I think the
wind is really gonna help New England here. But I
still have the Patriots as a better team overall than

(38:09):
the Buccaneers, who were just they cannot cover spread the
state of their lives. They got one and eleven against
the spread. Um, I saw them slightly better and I
mean this look since he was minus one he closed
as a one point favorite in Tennessee. I have New
England better than Tennessee. They closes the three. Actually I
think they closed it three. There was late money that

(38:29):
came in on the box and now they're three and
a half within favorite. Just because they've covered so much,
they're they're eleven and one against spread their last twelve.
They're eighteen and four against the spread including the post season.
Over the past twenty two games, all Joe Burrow does
his cover, but usually when that happens in the NFL,
you start to get a little bit of inflated lines.
And since he's doing a lot of injuries, like I
you know, the receivers aren't fully healthy, but they're they

(38:50):
played at least we'll see if Hayden Hurst plays. But
on the defensive side of the ball, you are you know,
you just lost Sam Pubert. Now your defensive then we'll
see if Trey Henderson lays their defense. Event who was
out last week broken wrist. He has a chance to play,
but he might not, and then they'll be down both
of their starting defense events who are really important on

(39:11):
that defense. And then they have injuries in the secondary
as well, which is one of the reasons they just
weren't statistically great last week. They have the Bills on deck,
they pretty they've pretty much already clinched a playoff spot. Uh,
second straight road game here, and then look New England
still last week, for as ugly as they look, as
mac Jones looked awful, I think Stevenson still ran for
like almost two hundred yards. Since he's run, defense has

(39:34):
been a little shaky, and I think that's what this
game is gonna turn into because of the wins. I mean, uh,
we'll see. You know, it's Wednesday, so things can change.
But if you look at the forecast across the country,
it should be it's gonna be freezing and then it's
gonna be twenty thirtys in Cleveland. You're gonna get to

(39:55):
thirty sustained winds with gust in the forty maybe even
the fifties, which is why that total is at thirty one.
Between the Saints and the Browns. So yeah, low scoring
game obviously makes points more to premium and uh, the
wind I think it's gonna hurt the Bengals more. I

(40:15):
think they're just a tad overvalued here. So I grabbed
the hook with the home dog here in the lowest total,
you remember, yeah, there's there's there was some thirty trying
to think thirty one. There was some thirty and a half.
I think like in the early two thousand's with like

(40:38):
some of the Bears teams that just had dominant defenses
like Ron Rivera. No offense, yeah, no offense at all,
great defense and end it would be in Chicago late
in the year with the wind um. But this is, yeah,
this is as low as you're gonna see. I'd imagine
that total and that Bills windstorm cold game against the

(41:01):
Patriots finished pretty low. But thirty one maybe mid thirties,
thirty five maybe five and a half is there are
some games probably that are approached that in the first
half total, right, So you know the game of the
year or you know the game of the year would

(41:22):
be strong going into probably the last month. We've been
talking about this game for a while and now the
Cowboys ship the bed a little bit. You know, that
was a pretty devastating loss. That kind of changes their
ability to potentially win this division, even though statistically if
Philly will lose out and they win out that they
control their own destiny. But Philly's missing their quarterback. It

(41:42):
looks like the one thing with Dallas their defense the
last couple of weeks, man, you can just score on,
especially last week. Now, Trevor Lawrence is obviously much better
than Gardner minshew, But if you know, one thing that
I was gonna like if Jalen was in this game
was athleticism, being able to kind of avoid the past rushing.
He plays alive and in their secondary you can just
kind of slice and base him and A J. Brown

(42:03):
and DeVante are fucking monsters and Godard's back. Well, mints
you it's been a little while, but I mean, isn't
that kind of his game kind of running, run around,
scrambling around, slinging it Now, who knows, he hasn't played
in a long time. But I think I kind of
like Filly in this spot. But maybe that's just because
Dallas the last couple of weeks feels a little lifeless. Now.

(42:24):
I know they were up twenty seven to ten in
that game. But part of the reason you can come
back on him because you can score. I mean, this
was a team that their defense felt like the Niners
denver them and they are a shell of themselves right now.
So I I just do not trust Alice. I I
couldn't bet on them. Yeah, I took Dallas here reluctantly,
but I just kind of think, knowing the the Eagles

(42:47):
coaching staff is throw Yeah, I don't. I think that
they're they don't care about this game. They're not gonna
show anything that's I don't I think Hurts could easily
play and they're saying, look, we're probably gonna have to
either face Dallas or San Francisco again. And one of
the reasons they had so much success in the first
meeting credit they played Cooper Rush, is that Hurts Hurts

(43:11):
his athleticism and the read option and just putting you know,
Michael Parsons and whoever's on the edge and just using
their aggressive against them now when she's not gonna be
able to do that and they're gonna have to run
a different offense here. But like, I don't think they're
gonna play God or I wouldn't be surprised if they
rest other people. They don't. I don't. I just don't
think that they want to get Dallas a second look

(43:32):
at their offense. Um, they're just they want to stay
healthy Dallas. We have to win out. I mean, look, look,
the Eagles have home games coming up against the Saints
and the Giants, and if Dallas wins out, they just
have to win one of those two games. So yeah,
I think that they're plunning this game. And then you
know it's obviously a good Bilo spot on Dallas. One

(43:55):
was lost at the Texans, then they lose to Jacksonville,
and now this is like their Super Bowl. Playing the
Eagles at home. You're gonna get an all out effort
from Dallas at home, and then I think you're gonna
get almost just lacks a daisical vanilla. We're not showing anything.
We're not going all out. Um, if we're down late,
I don't care. Um, So yeah, I'm taking a little

(44:17):
bit of a stab here. And how I think this
is gonna play out. So I don't see the son
of value of the number of hurts even if Hurts
is out. But um, yeah, I think like the Eagles
are almost hunting this in a way, which is crazy.
So it's gonna be the most hyped game of the weekend,
and the division is technically still alive, and you could
clinch the one seed with a win. But um yeah,
I don't think Hurts is playing, and I don't think

(44:39):
maybe a couple others will. And one team is playing
for their Super Bowl and the other team is just
gonna say we have bigger goals to worry about, which
is pretty well. But I think that's how it's gonna
play out. And I could be dead wrong have many
times before with um yeah, I think that's how that's
how it's gonna play Well, that's what sucks. Like the
reality is of the two afternoon games, the nine or

(45:00):
Washington game, there's more on the line, right The Diners
are chasing Minnesota. All it takes for them to stop
up in Washington's playing for their playoff live. So that's
a game where both teams are really investing. Like you
said with the Eagles, like they're incentivized to beat the
Saints because they own their pick, right and the Giants
and the Giants you've seen that matchup before. I mean
Georgsky could play quarterback for them, and that that'd be

(45:20):
a tough matching for the Giants. So yeah, I'm with you. Now,
who knows by then they might have the number one seed,
so they could throw that. But that's a weird spot, right,
because if you throw that game and rest everyone, you're
taking technically taking fourteen days off before you play, and
then you let teams like San Francisco, Minnesota, whoever, you know,
kind of keep rolling. It's it's kind of a weird spot.

(45:41):
We saw historically the Colts do it sometimes in the
Peyton Manning arrow, Right, do you rest people when you
have a buy and then you kind of come out slow.
I don't know if there's a right or wrong answer,
but really that Saints game is basically for the one seed.
They win that thing, it's over. Yeah, to Sirianni, from
everything that he said in the past and things that
he's done the past, he's all about he's on the

(46:02):
health side, like just we want to stay healthy and
on the flip side. I think Shadahan came out this
week and said he he's on the other end of
the spectrum. He says, look, it's you know, it's a
couple of hours on every week, and if you start
resting guys, then um, those are the guys that tend
to play worse on your first playoff game and come

(46:24):
out rusty. So um, yeah, it's it's interesting, you know.
The one the one argument in favor of taking the
restaurute is that if you do get an injury to
a key player that is will kill you. And it
is still up in the air, but I do think
that I would prefer to at least I think just
from anecdotally, I've seen teams that don't rest fair better overall. Um,

(46:49):
but um, you can make an argument for either way.
But I think that's the Eagles approach. But yeah, then yeah,
the with the Saints pick too throws another mention into it.
So it's an interesting game theory approached by the Eagles
and cure to see what they do the rest of
the way. If we assume somehow the Giants, you know,
just hold, and they obviously have the lead position for
the sixth seed, who would you play your money on
to be the NFC seventh seed right now? Seventh seed

(47:11):
in the NFC. I mean I probably with odds, I'd
probably take the Packers. I'm I'm hoping that week a
team game is the Sunday Night winner get in Jared
Goff Dan Campbell at Lambeau. You know the NFL would
that be a lot the Jags game, No chance Tennessee
would get that spot. And I think there's one other

(47:31):
game Jets, even in Miami. There there was no way
that Aaron Rodgers, if it's a winner get in game,
would not get Sunday Night, right, Yeah, I mean yeah,
because look, the lines are playing well and it could
come down to that game. But Aaron Rodgers at home,
it's probably gonna be like you know, five degrees reason,
which isn't great for golf, but uh yeah. The only

(47:53):
thing is if there's another game, another NFC wild card
game that could with another team that could get in,
then you have to play them at the same time time.
And then the game that will probably get flexed is
um Ravens Bengals, which would be it's most likely going
to be for the division, assuming the Ravens beat the
Falcons and Steelers at home the next two weeks. But yeah,

(48:14):
it's like Washington's is at Sant fran that this week.
They're now talking about bringing Carson Wentz back in so
you assume that's a loss, and um, yeah, it's gonna
come down to if if green Bank can take care
of business in Miami this week, the NFC is gonna
get really interesting. But I think the NFC will be
much to two teams that I really want to see

(48:35):
get in. I want to see the Jags get in,
and look if Tennessee loses, I mean, they're only a
four point favorite at home, and it's hut the Texans
this week. Now it looks like Tannehill is going to
be out. But even if if they win that game,
if they lose next week to UM to Dallas and
Jacksonville just goes one and one over the next two weeks,

(48:55):
then that week eight team game is for the division
and the Jacksonville place Houston next week. So yeah, I'd
like this. I mean, did the Texans, I mean, the
Titans just have so many injuries that in the and
the Jacks are trending up and I'd like to see
them get in. And then I'd like to see either
Lions or Packers get in, um over Washington or the Giants.

(49:17):
I just think that those teams could potentially give some
of the higher seeds a bigger fight. I I definitely agree. Well, stucky,
Merry Christmas, Happy Honukah, have a good weekend. Uh, enjoy
some booze some family, and I will talk to you
next week. Yeah, Merry Christmas and uh happy holidays and
good luck on all of your wagers. Okay, let's answer

(49:41):
a couple of quick mail back questions. Add John Middlecoffe's Instagram.
Fire in those d ms. Easy to get answered here
on the show. We'll go quick. Don't want to keep
this podcast too long because we got family, we got
presents to wrap. I wanted to thank you for making
my delivery job less poring. I appreciate Jimmy. It's been
no secret that Colin has on a big part of
getting more listeners, and I appreciate him picking you up

(50:04):
on the volume. I just wanted to know how you
originally got on his radar and what would you suggest
to young people that want to get noticed by more
famous people in order to further their career. Thanks. We
met through Twitter. Uh, this was back when Twitter I
think was probably easier to just have normal interactions. My
guests would be probably two thousand thirteen or two fourteen.

(50:28):
I used to go on his radio show on ESPN. Um. Yeah,
we just kind of met that way. And I started
doing a podcast for him well before the volume, So
I was doing a podcast for him starting in two
thousand eighteen. Um, I came up with a name. It was,
you know, his idea. He's like, you want to do one?
I said sure, and then he's like, yeah, just do it,

(50:48):
and we just started doing it. Uh. But yeah, I
just met him through social media. I think it's probably
a little more difficult that way now. Granted, like at
the time, I just a the NFL so as former
NFL scout, He's buddies with Andy Reid, Like there were
some connections there, you know, to like make me more
credible probably in his world, Um, but I don't. My

(51:12):
My advice always is is to LinkedIn d M people
or Instagram DM people. I would be aggressive in the
d M s. I think that's the best way to
to approach it. Why does m VP not actually go
to the most valuable player? It goes to who the
media wants the stories around, right, I would argue Herbert
has been the most valuable player this year, charge has

(51:33):
been the most Injurbert team. Herbert has been a top
five passing leader all season, currently number two behind my Homes,
and not a single Charges receiver is in the top
twenty in yards. He has less than a competent head
coach and an o C has now set up the
Chargers to be in the playoffs and is a wild
card team that is no division leader wants to face.
If not Herbert, then I would say it's Tyreek Kill

(51:54):
who has to be super valuable to the Dolphins, or
maybe Dick Boza, who has been the most dominant individual
in my mind, but none of the three will even
be and consider in the conversation, Yeah, I think what
the m v P and the Heisman Trophy has become
is basically the best quarterback on one of the best teams.
And that's why it's gonna be Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen

(52:14):
or Patrick Mahomes. Now with Jalen injured, is gonna be
one of those two guys. And obviously every single year,
it's gonna be the Alabama quarterback, the Ohio State quarterback,
the USC quarterback, the Georgia quarterback. Like that's just it's
no longer going to be anything else but those guys.
Eddie George is never winning the m v P again.
It's just I'm I'm with you. I wish it would

(52:36):
be more open ended. At least in the NBA, like
seven eight guys have a chance to get it. Now
it's different because they all play like the star player,
which is the equivalent of the quarterback. Like Janice could
get it, Yo, kids could get it. Steph could get it.
Kevin Durant could get it. You know, if Anthony Davis
could just stay on the court, maybe he could get it.
But football, it's like, yeah, it's gonna be one of
the top two or three quarterbacks on a team that

(52:58):
wins third team plus games. I hear you. I don't
like it much either, big fan of the pot. I
was looking at news articles on bull bound packed twelve
teams and saw they had a good amount of players
entering the transfer portal. But they weren't just freshmen complaining
about playing time like usual, but actual high quality starters.
It seems like with the development of n I L

(53:19):
and lack of transfer regulations the m c double, a
load of mere mid tier programs are now talent forms
for bigger programs. Is there really any chance for smaller
programs to win? If this continues to happen. I don't know,
you know, I I went to Rivals because today signing
Day and looked at the transfer portal. I think you
see a lot of things going both ways. You see

(53:40):
guys from Alabama going to lesser schools. I saw a
guy transfer I think from Alabama went to Kansas. I
might have it messed up, but I think you saw
some of those. Clemson goes to u c l A.
A guy left Oregon to go to the University of Arizona.
I think a lot has to do one with money
and two new coaches. Sometimes schemes don't fit the guy.

(54:02):
So I don't think all the guys that are leaving
pack twelve schools or n I L. I think some
of them are simply new coaching staffs. We have a
lot of new coaches, right, Dan Landings new obviously, Washington,
Washington state of new coaches. Arizona Jed Fishes relatively new.
Arizona State has a new coach, coach Primes new Lincoln
Riley's new. So I think that plays a bigger role

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that sometimes sometimes when you see a guy transfer, Obviously
you're gonna have guys that just get paid, right, if
I'm a really good player in a big school wants me,
I'll go there. I'll get paid, and I'll try to
become a better NFL draft prospect. But I think, like
Justin Flow, who's transferring from Oregon to Arizona, I just
don't think Oregon wanted him, and a couple of years
ago he was one of the bigger recruits Mario got

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So I think it. I think we underestimate and I'm
sure some of these guys are gonna leave Colorado. Dion's
gonna tell him, you're never gonna play here. Dog, it's
over leave. But in college, unlike the NFL, I can't
cut you like I just can't cut you if you
aren't if you're academically eligible. So if you're in good
academic standing, I have to write it out if you

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want to stay now, I don't have to play you,
but I have to honor your scholarship. So that that's
where it gets a little complicated, where you hope you
can just kind of shame them you're never gonna play here,
and they'll naturally leave. But I would I wouldn't overestimate
the the guys at smaller schools, Like a guy at
Washington State transferring just because of the money. Sometimes it

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might just because of coaching, because if you're a human being,
but you probably got some close friends on the team.
Now there is a level of Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia,
those schools call it's hard to turn them down, right
if you're at a quote unquote mid tier Power five.
But I think all these situations do not fall into
the same umbrella. Okay, I'll get in the last question.

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I love the show, haven't missed an episode. I appreciate it.
My question in regarding to your take on Brady potentially
leaving Tampa and going to another team. If he does
leave and chooses not to retire, why would he go
to the Raiders? The a f C has top to
bottom way more talented, especially him going up against Herbert
Mahomes twice a year, and even if he does make
the playoffs in that division, you have the Bengals, Ravens,

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Bills to worry about. Wouldn't the NFC make more sense,
especially given the most of the playoffs team Uh likely?
Uh let me rephrase it, especially given that he most
likely will make the playoffs with a losing record this
year and host a playoff game. I don't see him
as a guy to shy away from a challenge. But
I think one reason he stayed in Tampa and extra
years because he looked down in the NFC and saw

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promising path to Super Bowl run. Okay, you bring up
a good point. The connection the Raiders was simply Vegas
money and Josh McDaniels. So they run the offense, which
obviously matters to tomp I heard someone bring this up.
I forget too. What about the New York Giants? What
about next year? Brian Dable? The New York Giants, Like
you said, NFC much more wide open that team. Now

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they would need to add some weapons. Uh. But the Jets,
even though it would actually make sense, right, the team
is really good. Would he do that to Robert Craft
feels like he wouldn't. And I wonder if the Giants,
you know, his kids there now that he has a
divorce a little more complicated with all the other kids.
Um to me, the pushback if he doesn't go to

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Vegas is he doesn't want to come west because he's
so far away from his his kid. I think Jack
that lives in in New York. Uh and once the
one thing Vegas has that he's gotten used to, and
I can't imagine when you're used to paying high taxes
and then you pay zero income tax. Vegas would also
be pretty intriguing there. But I think Josh at it's
pretty well documented through our eyes through stories like him

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and Josh are pretty close. And I think the bumps
in the road this year offensively, he's gonna want someone
that knows what he's doing. Offensively, Josh McDaniels, Brian Dable.
So the knock on Kyle Shanahan, Kyle's Shanahan's offense does
demand some movement. Now, you don't need to be Kyler Murray,
but you have to do boots and waggles and naked's

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like where you fake to hand off and scramble back
the other way and throw on the run. That ain't
Tom now, you know me. I'm like, hey, coaches, you
gotta figure it out at forty six years old, like, listen,
we were all wrong. I shorted Brady three years ago,
like Kyle Shanahan did, like a lot of teams did.
Or excuse me, I I shorted, yeah, shorted Brady like

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all those guys did. I would probably shot him again
this time like it's over and if he has one
good season, so be it. But I'm not changing my
entire offense for a forty six year old. That's just
Adam Vinitary played at forty six. He's a kicker like
this is this is it's I see um a blow
average player. Now you can argue the offensive line. Oh fine,

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And I think Tom Brady is the greatest player of
all time, but athletically he doesn't want any part of
getting hit. I don't blame him. Who wants to get
hit it forty years old? Uh? I would shy away.
I would say the Giants. I kind of go back
and forth. I think he might retire, but then sometimes
maybe he won't retire. Who knows, I mean, I have
no clue, but he's clearly gonna leave Tampa. The only

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question is if he does stay, where does he go?
Probably a short list of places, right, I would say
Vegas would be one. I would say the Giants would
clearly be interested. I would imagine the Jets would be
interested in well, even though they also run the Shanahan offense.
But can they really If Tom Brady wanted to come
to Jets and Jets would have a choice they'd have
to sign them and figure it out. Appreciate everyone listening.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, even though I'll talk to

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you before the New Year and UH, enjoy the weekend,
enjoy the games, enjoy your family, talk to you. Sent
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