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The volume. What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing?
It is one of, if not my favorite weeks of
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the year, especially non football. It might be my favorite
week of the year. The Masters doesn't get any better.
We are gonna dive deep into just some big picture
thoughts when it comes to this week. And then I
got about six seven guys that I am going to
have action on this week, from top tens to top
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twenties to potentially, you know, to win the tournament. I'm
going to have a live Draftking special. It's hard not
to like some of the live guys and the momentum
they have coming into this tournament. So we will do that,
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the Masters and before we talk individual players, storylines and
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ultimately gambling. Listen, this has probably always been the super
Bowl of golf. It's the only tournament of the four
majors that has played at the same venue every single year.
It's not true for the PGA, it's not true for
the US Open, It's obviously not true for the Open Championship.
And this feels like the most iconic of the group. Obviously,
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the green jacket. It's one of those things for a
sport that, let's face it is Niche can pierce through
and everyone understands what the green jacket is. It typically
is the highest rated. If you remove Tiger where in
the two thousands and the late nineties and the twenty tens,
if he was in the mix, he could be playing
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in your backyard, let alone, in a major championship. The
ratings we're gonna go up you remove him. To me,
this is the cash cow. This is the one that
everyone gravitates to. Most of us have never been yet.
We discuss not allowed to have phones all the food
and the beer and everything is really cheap that there's
like a nostalgic, heavenly cool, unique, like all these different
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ways to describe it, and everyone is like, God, I
would love to go to that. And whether you like
golf or you don't, it's a cool event and everyone
acknowledges that. And I think one reason this event has
been I would say gone to another level the last
couple of years is because of Live and golf has
never been strong enough but definitely isn't now without some
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superstar Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicholas type guy. I mean,
Scotty and Rory are awesome. I wouldn't put him in
Jack Arnie in Tiger's category here, it's not big enough
to take away three or four of the most important players,
and we are feeling that and the tournaments. While I
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love golf and I would be considered, as they would
say in Radio a P one, I'm a diehard, Like
I'm paying attention last week when Brian Harmon is winning
his fourth career PGA event, most people don't give a shit,
and by some of the quotes that are coming out,
I saw John Rahm, who I think it's fair to
assume as the highest paid player in the history of
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liv said that he doesn't know, but he doesn't expect
anything to happen anytime soon. It's kind of sad, and
I'm not gonna spend too much time on this. But
the Master's benefits from this because we only get four
times a year when Bryce and d Chambeau, whose stardom
has gone up greatly over the last four or five years.
First he got big like a football player, then he
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got skinny, then he went to live, then he got
this really popular YouTube channel. Then he won a major
last year and he took down Rory McElroy, so his
stardom has never been bigger. He's a two time major champ,
Kopka's won a bunch of majors, Rom has won multiple
US Opens. Obviously, Phil is one of the biggest stars
in the history of golf. And those guys are just
gone and we only get to see them play with
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these other guys four times a year, and the Master's
benefits because of the schedule. It's the first major, so
it's the first time that we see all these guys together,
and sometimes they're paired together. In the last couple of years,
some of these guys have won majors, and some of
them have competed to win this major. I mean a
couple of years ago we had Brooks and rom and
Scotty and all these guys going at it. And it's
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just kind of sad the more I think about it,
because you get Yasser, who ultimately doesn't give a shit.
He's got access to the Saudi piggybank, which is unlimited,
and he just wanted a seat at the table. And Jay,
who listen, I don't pretend to know the guy, but
clearly feels a little over his head in this whole endeavor.
Pushed back against it originally, and this where it got
to where it's at. And now they're negotiating, and Tiger's
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clearly involved, and his ego and pride based on the
history of golf have to play a factor here and
the whole thing's embarrassing. And the players don't lose out
They've never been richer who loses or us because we
don't get to see these guys play. So when they
actually do the Masters, you gotta thoroughly enjoy it, and
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hopefully you can get a good mix of a Bryson,
A Brooks, a ram against a Scotti, a Rory, a JT.
And all those guys are in the mix down the
home stretch. I mean that's happened the last couple of years.
Obviously last year with Bryson against Xander and then Bryson
against Rory, it was badass. And I would be stunned
going into this tournament if this ain't a big gun
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like I think if you just look at top tens
in top twenties, I don't think they're gonna be too
many flyers. I would expect the big names, the best
players to be in the mix. I mean that's how
it's played out the last couple of years. Obviously, you
could have a random guy in the top ten, but
look at the guys that won the majors last year.
It was starting with this tournament. He's won two of
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the last three. Scotty Scheffler, well, who was he battling
straight up against Ludwig Colin Morikawa, Max Homa who was
playing really well at the time. Then the PGA Championship,
who was going at it? Xander Hoveland and Bryson. What'd
you have in the US Open? Rory Bryson one on
one the Open Xander kicked everyone's ass like this is
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when the cream separates, and it's what makes Major so great.
It's what made Tiger and Jack such legends. It's like,
you guys won that many and listen, the tour is
not as powerful because they don't have a Tiger like figure.
I know Scotty's awesome, but he ain't type. Neither is Rory.
He hasn't won a Major in ten years. But the
depth of the talent in the top ten fifteen players
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has never been better. I love Tiger. I think he's
right there with Michael as my favorite athlete of all time.
Besides like Phil Ernie and a couple other iterations of
like a Retief Goosen and a Chris DeMarco and a
Padrick Harrington. He did not have to take on the
depth of talent. Now, I don't think that would have
phased him. I think he's still his numbers would have
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spoke for themselves, and he still would have kicked everyone's ass.
But it's it would have been awesome to see a
twenty eight year old Tiger involved with these guys. I
would take him over all these guys. But still, like
the talent of this group is pretty indisputable, and that's
why I think the number one storyline coming in, like
Scotty Scheffler has a chance to win three of the
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last four Masters. Think about that. That's Tiger Woods never
did that. Hell, Phil's one three, he didn't do that.
That would put him in a rare category with a
guy named Jack Nicholas. And I don't think he's the
biggest story coming into this major. I think it's easily
Rory McElroy, who is I think it's fair to say
the top player of the last fifteen years and a
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guy who's number one story right now is he can't
win a Major despite the last couple of years being
right there. I mean, what was it six seven months ago?
He had the US Open one until he didn't. He
stormed out and he drove off with his caddy and
his manager and we didn't see him again till the fall.
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But I think when it comes, I guess we saw
him at the British Like I think he's easily the
number one story. And I watched Brandle give an interview
with the guy and he said Rory's had a couple
issues here. One he has not started fast, and if
you look at Rory's first rounds at the Masters, they
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are not good. Even a couple of years ago when
he finished second, he shot sixty four on Sunday and
he's still lost by three. So let's face it, he
never had a chance to win that tournament. On average, right,
you play seventy two holes in golf. The winner of
the Masters hits about fifty two greens, so obviously you've
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got to get up and down twenty plus times. Rory
McElroy on average in his Master's career hits about forty two,
so like he ain't exactly Phil Mickelson around the greens.
So that's a huge disadvantage for him, and I don't
think it's random why he hasn't won this tournament when
those are your stats. I also heard this that the
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winner when it comes to the Masters on average is
in the top ten after round one, with an average
position after round one of a little under seven six
point six. So it shows you there aren't not that
it's never happened, but for the most part over the
history of the tournament, there aren't guys coming from like
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thirtieth place and comes storming back. And I think a
big reason why is lot of squorreble holes here. This
isn't a place typically you see crazy meltdowns. It's happened,
but I wouldn't say this is the British Open or
the US Open where you're gonna go back to back
doubles down the stretch in the second round. This is
pretty telling. The average pole position is three point two,
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and then when it comes to the third round, the
average winning pole position is one point five. So typically
whoever you're betting on and specifically, like, listen, I'm gonna
have a little rar reaction. I'm rooting for Rory to
win this. But like if he shoots seventy three on
day one is in forty, if like he's not winning,
that's just not going to happen. Why because that never
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happens here. That's not the deal. So if you can
just have like a one under or two under day
instead of a two over day, it goes a long
way to winning this tournament. And like, at this point
in time, there's no excuses for him anymore, not that
anyone's making them. It's kind of been sad that he
just hasn't been able to figure this out. And listen,
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say what you want about the other tournaments. He's been
right there to win all three, especially the US Open.
In the Open, he easily could have won three over
the last three years, but this tournament has been a
bugaboo for him. And I do think listen, we're all
human beings and belief in confidence. The older you get
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you realize how important that is. Some people you're not
born confident, but obviously some people in their youth are
more confident. Whether it's because they're good at sports, they're
good looking and girls like them. However, it manifests you
know whether you're great in school, so you know you're
really smart. Most people are not. I would say most
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young people lack confidence, and rightfully so it's hard. You
don't have the experience of having a lot of successes
to build up confidence. The older you go ideally, whatever
you're doing professionally, you build up confidence doing. I know
a lot of my friends have young children. I don't
have kids yet. I would imagine early on. I've seen
it with my brother. I've seen some of my best
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friends like it's a little nerve wracking having a young kid.
By the time they're five or six, it's like feet up,
you're not even worried about it. You hear him crying.
It's like, come over here, right, because the confidence of
raising a child you feel much better about. You don't
freak out over every little thing. And what's really weird
is it's probably impossible over the last fifteen years to
play much more golf than Rory and have the success,
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the financial success and the wins that the guy has had.
Yet there does feel like he's not that confident here,
and there's like a lack of belief, and like, I
want to be totally believe in the guy and put
the biggest bet I've ever made on a golf tournament
because like, look how well he's playing. Look how he
played a pebble, Look how he played at the players.
He's working his wedges. His driver hasn't even been on.
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Imagine if he starts hitting you know the majority of fairways,
watch out. And there's just something that you can't quantify.
And that's what makes sports so cool. It's like it's
like Lamar and Josh against the Chiefs. It's like there's
just something. These guys are all time great players combine
three MVPs. Neither of them are even thirty yet, and
it's like when they play the Chiefs, if it's all
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on the line in January, it's like, that's not gonna happen.
Like we have the evidence now, like I'm out, I'm out,
and I'm telling you I'm believing. But if this thing goes,
if he were to shoot like not even close or
to worst case miss the cut, but like not even
sniff the top ten, there's nothing he can do moving
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forward where you could ever believe in him coming into
this tournament. If he ever wins it, which I still
think he probably does, but if he doesn't win it
this week and it looks really weird, I think from
then on out you just got to be like, well,
this is the place where you can't figure it out
for whatever reason. And you know, brandall can break down
technically as wedges on the hilly lies whatever. It's like
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all the good players figure it out, right, Rom figured
it out, Tiger figured it out, Phil figure it out,
Scotty figure it out, Jordan figured it out. Great players
figure it out. This guy is an all time great player.
It's like he's either figuring out right now or it's
just I don't know. Everyone's kind of off the sense.
So I think he by far is the biggest story
in a weird way. Scottie, despite being the defending champ,
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and I'm recording this before his meal, feels like he
gets to play a little under the radar. There's nothing
else I like more about Masters Week two. Then the
pictures that come out of the Champions dinner. It's all
these dudes, and you know, I'm who I would doubt
Tiger goes because it's a torn Achilles. But you know,
Phil now has kind of got his mojo back. Remember
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a couple of years ago, Phil didn't say a word
when live first started happening in the dinner, and Phil
is like the biggest talker in the room, didn't say
a peep. I feel like he's gonna be very talkative now.
And that dinner, a lot of people talk shit about
Scotty's meal, which I think I saw someone tweet out
is technically the cheapest meal in the history of the Masters.
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But I'm always behind something in a big group setting,
like you can go simple, like no one's complaining about sliders,
steak and potatoes, like I promise you, even though it's like, wow,
that's just so boring. It's like everyone will eat it
and be very, very satisfied. It's like, what dessert is
a cookie and ice cream? I've never seen anyone eat
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a warm chocolate chocolate chip cookie over vanilla ice cream
and have a bad experience. Now, could there be better desserts? Sure?
Could there be more exotic desserts? One? I promise you
what travels. Chocolate chip cookies that are warm and vanilla
ice cream always work. So props of Scottie for not
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Okay, let's gamble. It is difficult. I mean, Scotty's basically
three to one. Rory's hovering six and a half six
to one. That's pretty insane. Odd's like Scotty, understandable. He's
won this tournament two of three years. He should be
the heavy favorite. It would shock nobody if like Scotty
wins again. Right, Rory never won this tournament, honestly, never
really played well and is getting treatment like he's Tiger
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Woods or Phil Mickelson in their prime. But like it's
hard to argue based on the way he's playing, Like
what should his odds be? Like fifteen to one? Everyone
would hammer that, including myself, to six and a half.
Six to one. It's like, cause usually if you can
get a guy like twelve thirteen to one, if you
put one hundred bucks, you win twelve hundred dollars. Look
look at stock market, try to ten ext your money.
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It's an incredible feeling. I've done it a couple of
times golf gambling. It's why you're hooked for life. But
six to one, it's like, God, I remember last year
I did it and it was ten to one, and
you knew after round one, You're like, I might as
well have just lit that money on fire. But those
guys heavy favorites, and deservingly so. To me, the biggest
lock of this tournament is Colin Morikawa top ten. You
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can get that at plus one thirty, So you bet
one hundred bucks, you won one hundred and thirty bucks.
Well you win two hundred thirty bucks. If you bet
one thousand dollars, you win twenty three hundred dollars. Colin
Morikawa has played this tournament four times in his career
twenty twenty one to eighteen, first time you ever played it,
twenty two, fifth, twenty three tenth, last year, tied for third.
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If he doesn't hit in the water on eleven, who knows,
maybe he pushes Scottie and finish his solo second with ease.
But this guy's played here four times. The only time
he's finished out of tenth he finished eighteenth, and he's
clearly just an unreal player. Now do I like him
to win? That's been kind of an issue for Colin
closing the deal. I don't see at plus one thirty
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how he is in an auto ham or to top ten.
If you want to get aggressive top five, I wouldn't
argue with you, But I think when it comes to
not picking a winner, but picking a guy that you
feel the most confident coming into this tournament that is
gonna finish relatively high, I don't see how you could
bet against Colin Morrikowell because unlike Scotty, like his odds.
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The top ten are not good, right, they're like minus
two hundred. You can get Colin more Kawa at plus
odds when he dominates in this tournament. It's my favorite
bet on the board. I think this guy listen, maybe
it's I've watched all of his youtubes and there's not
much to glean when he does the break fifty with
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Romo or Stafford or Brady because they're playing the red
te's and it's just it's it's just a fun experience.
I do think when you watch Bryson on YouTube play
a course and just try to break the course record,
you realize he is really good. Obviously, I mean, he's
one of the best players in the world, but you're
watching him, you're like that baby draw the power drives.
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He's a really good putter. He's good with his wedges.
The first couple of years playing this tournament were an
utter disaster, and it lasts before last year twenty two
and twenty three, he missed the cut. Now, unlike some
of these other majors that have one hundred and forty
one hundred and fifty people, this tournament typically has like
high eighties. I think this year it's like ninety six
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or ninety seven, which is a high number for the Masters.
So when you bet a guy to top ten, they're
not having to beat one hundred and forty other people.
They honestly only have to beat if they're ninety five
players here, eighty five of them. So the numbers are
way different, and from a statistical standpoint, because this field
is much smaller and because past champions get to play
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here for life. There are countless people in this tournament
over fifty that have absolutely no shot, a lot of
Freddy Couples, Bernard Longer, who's actually made the cut here
before it's his last tournament. Ever. You get guys like that,
I think Vj's is injured or sick or something. He's
not playing, But you get a lot of guys like
that that are never gonna win this tournament. So it's
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it's very unique that way. This is it's actually, in
a weird way, harder to win, like the Bayhill it
gets one hundred and fifty people than this. Now, in
theory it's harder to win this because of the pressure
and everything, but just in terms of the number of
people you have to beat. So in twenty two and
twenty three, Bryson missed the cut and was kind of
embarrassing because he claimed that this was a par sixty
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seven when it's actually not a par sixty seven, and
then he imploded. But last year when I think he's
really honed in on these like what I don't even
quite understand what three d irons are. But when you
watch the drive, they say I was in the car
today and Colin more Cowell pushed back against this. He's like,
they say, you need to draw to win. As a
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right handed player, that's right to left, and as a
left handed player, Bubba Phil, those guys have had a
lot of success. They can play a cut well. Bryson
plays a hardcore drop, like that's his shot and that
works here. And I think for whatever reason, whether it's
people rooting for him, it's success on YouTube last year,
like he was legitimately in the mix to win this
thing until he imploded on whole thirteen, which all of
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us would have as well as a weird shot he
chunked at water game over. He still finished T six,
So you can get Bryson plus one sixty two top ten.
I actually think if you like him this week, which
I understand, if you don't because if you tell me
that he finishes like fiftieth or fortieth or miss the cut,
it turns out last year was an aberration. This course
always gonna be hard. If you tell me he's in
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the mix, then I just go to Bryson before twenty
twenty four. This is a different guy. This version of
Bryson is going to be a factor here because we
all agree. If you follow the sport, you go. I'd
be stunned if Bryson isn't a major factor either in
the US Open or the PGA Championship. I think we
would have full agreement there. But this tournament can be
a somewhat of an outlier situation. I'm in the belief,
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and again it could be YouTube influenced watching him play
a lot of golf, because I don't watch a second
of live even though he played really well. He was
leading at Durraw until the last days, which was I
guess crazy ass Wins didn't watch second of that tournament either.
But I'm in on Bryson and I think top ten. Honestly,
I think twenty to one for of all the best players,
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you know, Rory, Scottie, more Cowa, the Zander, the ROMs
like that group. He has the worst odds of the group,
and he easily could have won two Majors last year.
Is John ram a better player than Bryson? Now you
can say John Rom's more comfortable here. Not gonna argue there,
but you're either like to me, you got to pick
a lane, and I wouldn't blame you if you go.
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I don't do. Bryson at the Masters, totally understand I do.
I'm in. I'm probably gonna sprinkle sprinkle a little. I mean,
you put twenty five dollars on twenty to one, you're
winning five hundred bucks. So it's just it's pretty good
odds for clearly one of the three or four best
players in the world. I think this guy's interesting because
you can get them plus one eighty two top ten.
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I also think if you told me Justin Thomas wins
a Masters, maybe not in twenty five, but over the
course of his career, I think it's very believable. He
was playing shitty golf for a while. Now he's not.
He's having an excellent season. This place has given him
some fits, and I hear that a lot like he
doesn't play well here, and then I looked in twenty
twenty weird year they played in the fall. Even if
you want to throw that away, he finished fourth the
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year DJ one in normal years twenty one, T twenty one,
twenty two, T eight, the last couple of years cut cut,
So it's like he has had success here. The last
couple of years, I mean were disaster last year, I
think with that weather and he missed the cut, or
might have been two years ago, it was pretty bad.
He's missed the cut in pretty bad fashion in the
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last couple of years where he was inside the cut line.
Definitely two years ago in bad weather, I think he
finished like four straight bogies or three straight bogies. But
I'm a believer in JT. He's a guy that I've
won money on in the past. I don't know if
he wins this tournament, Like I wouldn't take him to win,
but I think top ten plus one eighty pretty interesting.
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I watched a lot of the Sunday when Victor Hovelin
took out Justin Thomas, and it was a throwback a
couple of years ago when Victor Hovelin won the FedEx,
won like forty five million dollars and would have been
twenty twenty three and was kind of universally considered like
right now when the season ended, no one was playing.
He wasn't technically the number one player in the world,
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but he was playing the best in the world, and
the momentum he had going into the Ryder Cup, it
was like, Victor Hovelin is an unstoppable force. This guy
is a lock to not just win a major, but
to win multiple majors. Then it got weird and now
it's back. And when he won a couple weeks ago,
he's like, you know, I still am kind of guessing,
but I'm starting to feel good. I was in the
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car today and I listened to his press conference. Ironically
going to the PGA superstore to get new grips because
my grips were a little too big. I'd got new
grips three or four months ago, and then I was
like YouTube and some stuff. It's like, I think I
got the wrong sized grip. My hands aren't big enough
for these oversized grips, and I'm hitting it weird. But
that's a conversation for another day. Hovelin in this press
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conference was like, he's pretty positive right now in his game,
not only did he find something a couple weeks ago.
He just sounds like I'm betting on the vibes because
he's been giving you vibes in early in the season
when like I don't know what's going on. I'm terrible,
Like this is not going well, and then he shoots eighty.
Maybe that win the confidence that builds again. We're all
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human beings. When you're confident, you never think you're gonna
lose it. When you don't have it, you never think
it's gonna come back. Now that he got it back,
who knows. Maybe he found something in his game. He's
had success here first time he ever played here twenty
twenty one, T. Twenty one. He also played here as
an amateur. The year Tiger won at nineteen was a
low amp. In twenty two T. Twenty seven, and in
twenty three when he was playing well finished top ten
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T seven. Last year he was kind of in the wilderness.
He was cut. I'm a believer in Hovelin. You can
get him plus two sixty to top ten. Listen, like,
I'm not a huge Like take big flyers at the Masters.
That's not usually what happens. Look at the last Champions
it's been Scotti's and ROMs and Dustin Johnson's and even Tiger,
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So it's a lot of the elites. This guy is
an elite. He has just not been playing well. So
you can get him forty to one to win the Masters. Listen,
I think there's some value there. Him and Bryson are
gonna be guys that I take to straight up win
at forty to one. That is really really tasty. Another guy,
it's weird, like most people not consuming lyft and his
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when you look at his live results, they've been all
over the map. But here's the one thing you say
about Ozzi Aziazzi Campsmith when he goes to Augusta. He
plays extremely well. He has played this tournament five times,
T two, T ten, T three, T thirty four, T six.
This guy's game translates why second shot golf course, good
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iron player, good long iron player, excellent short game. I
think the live guys beside the Phills and the Sergios
and the Patrick Reids, like the guys that have been
here a million times and have won here, you just
like you understand they can be a factor at any moment.
Cam Smith is one of those guys. I don't care
how bad or weird it looks on live. Look at
his success here. You can get a top ten at
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plus three sixty's. That seems like some value there. And last,
but not least, on my betting card will be will Zalatrus.
He has a size I don't know, twenty five waist
and he hits it a mile and maybe because his
waist is so small that messed up his back. And
the only time that he's missed this tournament in the
last four years he obviously just didn't play. But when
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he's played here second T six, T nine, So if
it wasn't for the back injury which forced him to
miss the tournament, he has played here three out of
the last four years and he's finished in the top
ten every single time. I heard the guys in the
No Lane Up podcast mention that like a huge stat here.
You know a lot of courses these guys play, especially
on like the regular rotation in the PGA Tour. These
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guys hit it so fucking far. I play with the
buddy at TPC Nate. His dad Bill also plays with us,
played the big leagues forever, and Bill can play. Nate
can play too. Nate can hit it as far as
anyone I've ever met. And when Nate connects with the drive,
it goes like three hundred and thirty three hundred and
forty yards. I mean he's flying it, flying it three fifteen,
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three twenty, and I hit it decently far. I mean
every once in a while I can be kind of
close to him, but if I mishit it, he can
now drive me by sixty seventy yards. If I'm two seventy,
he can be like three forty. It's like, is he
in a different universe. Some of these shots that he's
hit at TPC where they have the waste management are
shots that I didn't even know existed beside when these
guys play. So when you hit it really far, most
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of these tournaments, you're going driver wedge, driver nine iron,
what the masters. Some of these holes are driver six iron,
driver five iron and Zalatoris is an excellent long iron player.
I think he's one of the highest rated sallion No
laying up said like that's one of his best hats.
And one thing the other thing that he is we
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talk about like the intangible shit that you can't really quantify.
This guy's good in big tournaments. It's weird. He's got
a little Kopka to him. He's like the light version
of Kopka because he hasn't won a major. But like
sometimes he'll play in random PGA events, like why isn't
this guy one of the best players, and he's just
kind of whatever, finished seventeenth or twenty fourth, and then
he goes to a major and he's third. It's like
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certain guys, It's like this in all sports. We all
watch basketball, baseball, football, hockey, you name it. There's certain
people that are just bright light skis. And I feel
like Xalatoris is. You can get Zaladorus to top ten
at three twenty a plus three twenty so one hundred dollars,
you win four hundred and twenty bucks. I don't know, man,
I just I don't see how you don't have any
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exposure on him. I have a hard time of knowing
what to do with like John Rahm, Koepka, Xander, all
those guys can win it. It wouldn't shock me if
any get tut tee fives or top tens. I'm just
not messing with him. Xander the Ribs Brooks a little
out of sight, out of mind, and honestly, I don't
know what to make it wrong. I don't If you
told me that he's tied for the league going in
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a Sunday, I'd believe you. If he told me he's
fortieth going in a Sunday, I'd believe you. So that's
kind of a crew. I don't really know what to do.
And then there's just a lot of guys like I
don't really mess with Speth. I know he has a
lot of success here. I just don't really do it.
Maybe it's too much exposure to him in normal tournaments
Fleetwood's and other guy it's like, yeah, he could do well.
I don't really mess with Fleetwood anymore. Kicking Bradley is
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one guy. It's like he's had success here recently. I
think a bunch of top twenty fives. He's a guy
that's burned me in the past. So if you want
a little exposure to him, last, but not least, before
we get into the mailbag, there's a lot of talk.
You know, Patrick Reid Sergio like those guys could easily
be factors this week because he's fifty four years old.
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That Phil's got no shot. Phil a couple of years
ago finished top two. He has played in the Masters
basically every year except once since nineteen ninety five. That's
thirty years. Over half that time, he has finished in
the top ten. He has sixteen top tens, he has
twelve top fives, and obviously he has three wins. Just
a couple of years ago he finished second. Now, I
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think the thing that makes this tournament so cool is
you can be an older guy in compete. We just
saw Tiger a couple of years ago win the thing
because mentally understanding where you can miss, where you can't,
the comfortability around the greens here, and just the calmness
you have of playing this tournament. I mean, Phil has
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played this tournament every year since nineteen ninety five, and
I think he's playing pretty well now. And he's another
guy like I don't take much away when I watch
him on YouTube, Like he's legitimately played well in these
live events against like whether we think they matter or
they don't. At the end of the day, Phil is
playing against Brooks Wrong, Bryson, cam Smith, Like those are
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the guys he's trying to beat, and he's beat him
a couple times. Last week he was right there with
Bryson finished t six. Bryson was fifth a couple weeks ago.
I think Phil finished third. He is playing really well.
Now how that translates to the Masters or like PGA
Tour tournaments, I'd have no clue. But in terms of Augusta,
these four days, you can get some crazy odds. Now,
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I think it would be pretty When he won at Kiowa,
it's one of the greatest out of nowhere victories in
the history of sports. But I don't think he can win.
But he is one hundred and ten to one. I
don't think if you told me Phil finishes fifth or seventh,
like top twenty, I think it's a no brainer bet.
But top ten you can get about eight to one.
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I might dabble a little bit. Listen, Sergio Patrick Reid, like,
there are some other guys that I wouldn't blame you
at all if you had exposure to I think Phil
when it comes to long shots, and plus he's older
a guy that would not stun me at all. If
it's like god, Phil's three back on Saturday, I definitely
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think it's possibility. Let's do some questions. I'm in a
gambling pool. This is at Golo Pod firing those dms.
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Get your questions answering the show. I'm in a gambling
pool with some buddies for the Masters, and I need
some help. If you had to pick the four golfers
with the best chance to win, in no order, not
factoring in gambling odds, who would they be for scoring purposes?
So you know, Golfer number one has his score multiplied
by four, Golfer number two score multiplied by three, Golfer
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three by three, Golfer four is scratch. Scotty Morikawa is
kind of hard. You might as well just throw the
top odds guys, rom and maybe a flyer like Xalatorus.
I'm never great at those games. I just gamble. I can't.
I'm not great at like pools and stuff. I never
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win those, so I don't even quite understand the concept.
I mean, I kind of do you laid it out?
But Christian, do you think we will ever see a
player win double digit majors again? When Rory went four early,
he looked like the next golfer that was gonna do it.
History would suggest eventually someone will do it. But wanted
your opinion on if you think there's a chance with
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the depth of field in major golf. I don't think
there's that many guys that have ten plus majors. There
are three, there's Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods and Walter
Hagen which a little before our time. The chances of
someone winning double digit majors again feels zero, Like I
don't think it's gonna happen. Ben Hogan and Gary Player
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who I would say Ben Hogan is right there with
like Bobby Jones as the two most like Babe Ruthian
figures didn't win ten, Watson one eight. Then there's all
these guys like Sam Snead, Arnold, Palmer, Lee Trevino or
like seven and six. Phil is at five? H is
Phil at five? Now Phil is a six never won
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the US Open, But don't I don't think so. Like
if Rory has an incredible career moving forward, he could
win two more and that would put him at six.
You know, Kepka has what four or Kepka has five
because he has two PGAs, two US Opens and then
he won what did he win the PGA a couple
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of years ago? Even Scotty, he's at two. He'd have
to win, like he could win five more and he'd
have seven Bryce the same thing. I think like Evan
a Raid is the new fifteen. So I would say no,
just too hard A big fan. Just listen to Rory's
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pre Master interview and he talked about dealing with disappointment.
Is it just mirror? Does Rory sound like the guy
that someone like Aaron Rodgers is trying to be but
it's actually authentic and doesn't seem like he has some
ulterior motive or am I missing something? Yeah, I'm kind
of done psychoanalyzing Aaron. I just I'm kind of over
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Aaron Rodgers, you know, like I'm into you when you're
an important player, but like you're the shtick. I just
don't care. He doesn't when he signs with Pittsburgh, I'll
have a reaction and it'll be like, yeah, I don't
think it changes that much. I don't think it matters.
It's like I saw Russell Westbrook is like refusing to
talk to the media. Adam Silver had to call and
then he gave like it's like, Russell, you've been in
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league fifteen years, He's act like a pro. It's like, no,
he can't. It's like I've just I've been over Russell
Westbrook for a decade. Welcome to the party, everyone that's joined.
I think I just don't really care about Aaron Rodgers
at this point. Just it just doesn't matter where Rory
still is a great player, you know, Aaron no longer
is in the moment you're not a great player. Like
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we kind of move on and the end of the day,
Aaron Rodgers won one super Bowl. I know he's got
a bunch of MVPs, but it's like one to one
super Bowl. What the hell's I mean? Him and Stafford.
So he's got some more MVPs, cool individual award and
a team sport. And I've liked Aaron Rodgers as a player,
but I just I'm not as caught up with like
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the last couple of years of Aaron. It just doesn't
do much. I'm not like emotionally moved like some My
favorite podcaster talked, Okay, what are your thoughts on Bobby
McIntyre Top twenty. He's plus one fifty, he has solid
his last couple of times in AUGUSTA isn't good for
him and seems like the game fits the course. Also
wrong to have the best score of all the Spanish
golfers in the tourney minus one twenty five. His only
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competition is Sergio. Feels that's a lock. I kind of
like Sergio more than Ram this tournament. I have a
hard time doing minus odds on something like that when
it's like, Sergio's also won this tournament before, So if
Sergio beat Ram, it's not that shocking. And you gotta
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bet one hundred and twenty five dollars to win one hundred,
I don't really like that. Listen. Part of what makes
golf gambling fun is you can take guys that you
like and take some top twenty flyers, right Like some
people a lot of people are gonna bet Sergio and
Patrick Reid to top twenty. I would say the same
thing about Xalatorus, like I and Cam Smith, like I
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take top ten, top twenty, but it's like those are gout.
They could finish fortieth. The good thing with top twenties
is like just it gives you a big room for
AerR whereas someone that's bet a lot of guys to
win over the years, it's like that sucks when you're
out of it on Thursday or Friday. But top tens
with good players, even if the guy's hovering around. It
makes a pretty excit sweat on Sunday, dming you from
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my girlfriend's Instagram. I'm a huge follower and listener since
about twenty nineteen. My question is I will be traveling
to Arizona from Kansas Easter weekend for a history conference.
I wanted to see if you'd be willing to play
around of golf good Friday. I'm going home for We're
going to Napa for a couple of days and dinner
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with our families. But I probably I would have if
I was around, I'd be willing to make commute. Do
you think Brooks kept gay is a long shot to
win the Masters? I, like I said, I don't really
know what to makeup Brooks. I have no feel. Tell
me he wins, you tell me makes a cut. That's
the thing with the live guys, You're just guys that
are just a little off the radar on Live. Do
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you know how payouts work in the PGA? Assuming you
make the cut? Does the money you win in the
tournament just show up in your account on Monday? Are
the payments split up? And does a player get taxed
in their cash based in the state the tournament was in.
I think I've heard Kissner say this before. It's called
wad Wednesday, so you get the direct deposit on Wednesday.
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So if you win the tournament or you just like
you said, make the cut, you win twenty grand, one
hundred grand, five hundred grand Brian Harmon one point seven
million that comes on Wednesday. Now, what I don't know
is like Rory when he won the Players he won
four point five million, is that a ten ninety nine? Like,
do you get the four point five million or do
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they tax it before they give it to you. I
don't know. My guess would be you get the four
point five and then it's on you, through your corporation
or whatever, to pay the taxes. But from my knowledge
it's on Wednesday, and yeah, they are taxed. So obviously
winning an elevated event at in Florida or Texas is
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better than at Pebble or Riviera. Right, Financially, you have
to pay the in come tax like any human that
does business that way in the state in which you played.
So I would imagine taxes and then it's on the
player to pay their caddy, which I would guess they
get ten percent on the gross amount, which would be
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whatever you see like on ESPN dot com, I won
five hundred thousand dollars or seven hundred and fifty thousand
dollars I would owe my caddie, assuming we have a
ten percent split, seventy five thousand dollars, and then I'm
sure he's paid ten ninety nine and maybe some of
these guys with the better players, you're like a salaried employee,
and then it's based on bonuses. But there are probably
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a lot of ways to do it differently. I mean,
Maria showed a house the other day in a really
nice area of town that was several millions of dollars.
I think it was like, I don't know, four or
five and a couple of the people looking at the
home or caddies wife's and she she doesn't know golf,
and she couldn't really like she tried to puzzle it
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together who the guys were. I kind of figure out,
at least in the vicinity, who the caddies wives were
and who they caddied for. But when caddies are buying
homes three four million dollars, he shows you how much
money the all these guys are making. Now at the
one guy that I think it is is caddying for
a guy that's I would imagine a top twenty money
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maker on PGA tour. But still, like I mean, they
are living really, really well. Now I have to how
it all works in terms of the caddy payment. Like
Jordan's spiece caddy is he just gets ten percent, like
I would guess he's on. I pay you five hundred
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thousand dollars and then if we do enough throughout the
course of the year, I will pay you more. Something
like that. Like Tiger Woods wasn't paying Stevie Willing ten percent.
I think he was just it probably just boos everybody.
I'll pay you a million dollars you'd be my caddy,
and then based on successes. You know, that's the minimum
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you can make, and then obviously you can make more.
And that way you're not stressing. You can just focus
on me. I don't know if Tiger was cheap, but
I think these guys are making a lot, all the
top caddies. My girlfriend's parents are from Augusta and have
yearly Master's tickets. I was offered the chance to go
on Friday. I can't remember if you have been or not,
but do you have a favorite part of the course. Also,
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if you had to pick what golfer do you recommend following,
I like, I've never been, so if you've never been,
like me, I would walk around the entire course. I mean,
I would not discriminate against holes. I would probably start
at one and just work my way and just venture. Now.
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I think a huge part of the Masters is you
set your seat and someone can sit in it, but
you can always come back. I would probably just walk, eat, drink.
Depends how long you were going there for too. If
you get multiple days, that would impact my decision. But
I would walk all around the course. I would say,
you know, the Marquee groups, the Scotties, the ROMs, the Rory's,
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the Kepkas. I haven't even seen the pairings, but I
think you're better off finding a guy. What I would
probably do is someone I bet on that was in
a group that I could follow, so like so Bryson
Hudeki and Tommy Fleetwood. I mean, some of these groups
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will just be out Victor Hovland, Xander Adam Scott, Rory Ludwig.
That there are gonna be some groups that are just
tough to follow because of the crowds. But I think
A huge part of the Masters too, is that a
lot of people sit like Keegan Bradley, Jason Day, Phil Mickelson.
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That'd be pretty sick group to follow. Looking for my
guy Willie z Here's Dalataurus so Zala Taurus is with
Bernhard Longer in an amateur Noah Kent, that'd be a
pretty sweet group to follow. You just it's gonna be
impossible to follow the big dogs, and there aren't that
many people on the course because the tournament's kind of smaller.
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So basically they tee off at seven forty in the
morning Pacific Standard or Eastern time, and then they go
to about one I typically shoot in the high nineties,
and I have been thinking about a new set of
irons right now. I'm using the Mizunos. Do you think
it's worth the extra cost to get custom fitted or
should I just roll with a good set I think
you can get. You can go to a place. I
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did this to Club Champion because I got my clubs fitted,
or I just bought my clubs off Taylor Made years
ago because some dude on Instagram that I followed work
to Taylor Made and he gave me a fifty percent
discount code, so it's like, you know, I can get
six hundred dollars for eighteen hundred dollars set or whatever
it was. It was really cheap. It might have been
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sixty percent, but they were just I didn't get them
custom fitted, and then I went to a place and
they kind of bent them for my lie angle and
cut an inch off for me. So I think you
can manipulate it that way. I would not worry as
much if you're shooting like ninety eight on stuff like that,
I would wait till you get breaking ninety to spend
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a lot of money because irons and these clubs aren't cheap,
so I would just try to go and see if
they could just bend them. Assuming your lie angles off
at all, and I think Club Champions where I did it,
if memory serves me correct, that would probably be my recommendation.
Question feel free to answer in the pod twenty seven.
Been an athlete my whole life, hitting a marathon here
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in June. Yeah, then looking to pivot into golf. I've
a set of clubs, and I've been onto the range
twenty times in the last two years, so not much
at all. I would say I have an addictive personality,
and when I get into something, I usually go all in.
I would say typically marathon people do. Apologies for the
long background here, and my question is, if you or
me basically starting close to scratch, how would you go
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about maximizing your game? YouTube golf videos, lessons, getting out
and playing, hitting the range with shit form. I would
hit the range several times and like, seriously, kind of
gauge where you're at, and then maybe just play around
at a cheap course. So do the cheapest course possible,
try to play eighteen holes with your budies and kind
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of just maybe a couple times, especially if you can play,
you know, as it gets a little warmer, I don't know,
thirty forty fifty bucks, just a shitty course, and just
kind of see like this is I shot one hundred
and ten and one hundred and five, or maybe I
shot ninety eight and a hundred and kind of gauge
where you're at. And then I would use YouTube. Whatever
you suck at, like if you can't chip or you're
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slicing it a lot, type it into YouTube. It's basically
the number two search engine in America behind Google, and
see if you can get a couple tips that way
before you do lessons. So I would utilize the range
a cheap course. No point in spending a lot of
money when you don't even know how good or bad
you are. Do that a couple times, and then you
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use YouTube and then go back to the range and
see if you can fix some stuff, and then you
know that's probably six months later. Try to gather where
you're at. But I would just figure it out on
your own early on, because regardless even if you go
to a lesson, like, they're going to be basic swing
mechanics that are just you and your body. Okay, couple more.
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Did anyone else kind of feel like when Ludwig won
the Genesis he was about to start rattling them off.
I know we haven't gotten a major yet, so I
still expect him to have a great year, but he
seemed poised for at least a better finish in Arnold
Palmer and the players, and now he has to be
in the conversation for the Masters based on a showing
last year, and I haven't heard anything of it. Golf's
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weird that way, man. It's just one of those activities, games,
sports where you know it's pretty rare that Like if
Steph Curry scoring thirty thirty thirty maybe has one bad game.
I think he just did. He scored three points, then
he probably gets back on the horse twenty eight, twenty
five thirty. In golf, you can win and then you
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can miss like three straight cuts or be zero factor.
It's it's very It's hard to predict, it really is.
So I listen the moment he won. I put money
on him to win the Players and to win the Masters.
He was a guy. If I could get my five
hundred dollars back on him at seventeen to one or
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eighteen to one or whatever I got him at after
he won the Genesis to win the Masters, I would
not have put it on him. I would have put
it on someone else. But that's not the way it works.
So I hope he wins. I do not expect it.
I know he had a really good outing. I would
be I would say a little surprised. If you tell
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me Ludwig Is has a chance to win come Sunday
like he did last year. I'm not expecting that. I'm
all for it, but I would I struggle to like
have much anticipation positively for Ludwig going into this tournament.
Maybe he's just aw. I don't know what happened. I mean,
last year was kind of understandable he was hurt. Right
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now it's like, well, he just won. He looked good.
What's going on? Could you win the Masters? You get
this question a lot. If you started, if everyone started
from the tea box, and you got to start every
hole on the green but the furthest point from the
cup on the green, so essentially put your way to
a green jacket. I asked this last year, and my
initial reaction was I could probably do that. I'm a
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decent putter, But then watching the tournament, I don't know
if I'd even place in the top twenty, I'd have
no shot. I shot eighty four last week, and I
think I had four or five three putts, and that
was on a course I don't know. It was actually
running pretty good, probably ten and they're slope at TPC.
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I wouldn't say it's the Masters, but it's definitely you
don't have many flat putts, and I'm terrible. I'm not
good on slope greens, and those are probably some of
the slopier greens in the world that are running like concrete.
I think I would have I would struggle to get pars.
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I really would. No, I could not win because I
would have I would put some off the green. That's
the other thing. If you put one off the green,
can you use like a sandwich if I roll the
way down or do I have to put it back up.
I do not think most people could shoot even par
if I gave them Master's conditions on the green and
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put them for this spot away from the hole. I
think the majority of people would four and five jack
all the time anytime you two putted, So like you know,
on a par three there's four of those, that's a
par uh par four's that would be a birdie. I
think it would happen very rare. Now, maybe you could
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three putts some par fives and get some birdies that way,
but all the players birdie the par fives anyway, Like
that's the par fives at AUGUSTA to eight thirteen and fifteen,
those guys annihilate. What gets them is the par threes.
So it's like you better part of the par threes
because if you three putt those like you're in trouble.
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Like birding a par five doesn't do much for you.
So I think absolutely no chance. None could. And I'm
like a four or five handicap. I think the overwhelming
majority of golfers and that includes good ones unless you're
just a great putter. It's one thing to be like
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I'm a good putt and I'm an average golfer. Like
you've got to be a good golfer and a good
putter to even have a shot because most of us,
I've never played greens that were super super fast a
couple of times in Monterey because it gets like rock hard.
I I don't think most people would have any shot
to stop the ball. You'd be tapping it and then
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you would like hit it not far enough, and then
you'd run it by. I think there would be times
where you'd like five six putt, and if it was
a part four, all of a sudden you get like
a double bogie. So the answer, without hesitation is no.
The volume