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If you get ready to be amazed by the wizard
of weird. This is Strange Warren. I am Joshua B.
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Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be bringing
it brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird
experiments you can do at home, and a lot more
on this edition of the show. Keep this in your
wallet to attract money. Plus a ghost story.
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This is something that I have been meaning to.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Talk about for a long time, but I wasn't quite ready.
I don't think I have ever shared this story publicly
that I'm gonna gonna tell you about here shortly. But
first things first, I for many many years have been
keeping a little piece of paper, like a little sliver
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of paper in my wallet with the number eight drawn
on it. And since I have done that, let me
tell you that wallet has never been empty.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It has always been full of cash.
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And some of you have probably heard about the power
of number eight and attracting wealth before, but I want
to dig into it a little bit more with you,
because you know, I'm recording this show right now in
the spring, and that's when a lot of people are
finally starting to get financially caught up after the holidays
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and wintertime. You know, everybody blows way too much money
around the holidays and then and winter things slow down
a lot, and so it's nice to get a little
kick start if you want to start. You're generating more
opportunities for money to come your way, and often I
mean unexpected ways, things that you know, you can't even
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imagine how you're going to get any money, and then
all of a sudden, a check shows up or an
opportunity pops up that will allow you to make money.
And when I say I have a number eight, the
first time I did this, I got a little piece
of paper. If that's probably like an inch by an inch,
and I just took an ink pen and I just
drew an eight on it and put that in my wallet.
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And then later on, when I realized how quickly my
wallet kept filling up, I made a more permanent version.
I laminated it. And I've kept at least one of
those in my wallet sure enough. And I can't remember
where I first heard about the power of keeping the
number eight in a wallet. I know that Glennis McCants,
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the Numbers Lady, has talked about this on Coast to
Coast AM a number of times. Of course, I even
interviewed her back in the day on my show called
Speaking of Strange. She's a very famous numerologist. In fact,
her website is Glennis has Your Number dot com g
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L Y n I S. Mccant's mc c A n
T S. Glennis has Your Number dot com. She talks
a lot about the power of number eight to attract wealth,
and I believe that right off the bat it has
to do with the fact that the number eight is
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also used as the sign for infinity in many regards.
We see it used as the infinity symbol in math.
We see it used that way in a lot of technology.
For example, if you use a camera, you'll often see
the infinity sign there to allow you to focus properly.
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It's kind of interesting when you get online and you
start reading about the number eight. It says here that
the infinity symbol described as a sideways figure eight is
unrelated to the digit eight in origin, that it's first
used in the mathematical meaning infinity in the seventeenth century,
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and may be derived from the Roman numeral for one thousand,
which looks similar to this. So they're saying that officially
that the usage of the number eight as as accounting
tool should not be related to this symbol being used
to represent infinity. But to me, I understand how there's
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a difference between literally counting using numbers and just the
way that the number appears to you. But this goes
back to my belief in the symbology in general of
how pictures appear. That it may not have to do
with the fact that eight can only be used as
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accounting tool on you out of your ten fingers here
to keep up keep track of something. That something about
the way it's to pick it also triggers this idea
of infinity in the brain. In fact, if you're more
interested in numerology type stuff. I did an episode of
this podcast called Strange Things, Episode one two. It's called
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can Numerology Make You Rich and Happy?
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Truth? So to me, Regardless of the.
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Historic relationship between eight as accounting tool and eight as
a symbol for infinity, I think there's something about seeing
this loop that it never ends, it connects back to itself,
which taps in to the idea of never ending abundance
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flowing your way, the fact that everything in the universal
is is a cycle, and everything is being recycled. And
I could sit here and read to you. You know
quite a bit about the history of the infinity symbol. Say,
it's commonly seen going all the way back back to
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like Viking age, combs and tools. It's been used in
a lot of different ways. But it makes sense that
this symbol would very simply capture the idea of money
or anything flowing to you. And that is how you
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have to envision, just subconsciously, the idea of making money,
of money flowing freely towards you. Now, I do want
to point out that there are similar things. For example,
you may of course know about this tale of the
mythical Oro boros. This is an ancient symbol depicting a
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snake eating its own tail, and could also be a
dragon eating its own tail. Not quite the same thing
as the infinity symbol, but it's still often used as
some kind of a magical representation of the cycle of
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life and death and of energy flowing and transforming. And
I did not realize this until I just started doing research.
But believe it or not, there are some snakes, such
as rat snakes, that have been documented yes, consuming themselves,
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and so I looked a little more deeply into that,
and I don't want to see some of the I
started seeing pictures of this come up, and I was like, no,
I don't want to see this. Says while it's unusual,
some rat snakes have been observed engaging in self cannibalism,
sometimes to the point of dying from it, though the
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reasons for this behavior are not fully understood. That's called
auto cannibalism, the act of an animal consuming its own
body parts, and they say that at least one captive
snake was documented trying to consume itself twice, dying in
the second attempt. There was another snake in the wild
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that was discovered having swallowed two thirds of its body.
Snake experts they think this might arise from stress, confusion, malady, hunger,
but they really they really don't know. And so that's
just a weird thing to think about. And it also
reminds me of these stories that I heard when I
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was growing up about the hoop snake that's part of
at least where I grew up, it was part of
the Appalachian Mountain folklore. And I've talked about this also
before on the show when I was talking about weirdo
cryptids that some Oldzheimer's say that you would occasionally be
out in the mountains and you would discover a snake
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that would essentially put its tail in its mouth and
lift itself up like a tire and come rolling down
the hill at you like a big hula hoop. And
at first you'd be confused, you didn't know what you
were looking at, but then of course you were horrified
when you saw the stripes for the coloring, and you realize,
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this is a snake that just springs on you at
the last moment. Now, is there any truth to that?
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I doubt it.
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But when I was growing up, there was this old
man who was a friend of the family, and you
know we're talking about he had to have been born
probably late eighteen hundreds, and he spent a lot of
time up in the mountains, and he swore that he
had seen a hoop snake one time, and that basically
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everybody was so terrified of him they just killed him out,
which is why you don't find them so much anymore. So,
just an interesting idea about the relationship between the Ara
Boris and infinity. But let's get back to how all
this might apply to you making money. Well, when we
come back from our break, I'm going to share with
you some of what I call a money miracle Secret.
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It's going to help you understand why that the number
eight and your mentality about looking at money as an
energy and having that represented in your wallet might help
you attract more money. As you move into your year
and you start planning your vacations, you start well, you
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know how it goes. There's always a new bill popping
up for something. And if you want to go right
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Welcome back to Strange Things.
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On the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren,
beaming into your wormhole.
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Brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
where every day is golden and every night is silver.
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Giitato Zume.
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And I think that numbers are basically sigils.
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You know the thing about a sigil.
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Is it seems like the sigils that work the best
are the ones that disconnect from your rational, left brain
way of thinking. And what I mean by that is
that we are programmed to be very analytical, especially in
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this day and age where we live our lives around
technology that's based on such precise math. And the great
thing about a sigil is that I should be able.
An effective sigil is tapped into some kind of a
more fundamental, cosmic or spiritual energy, so that if I
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look at it, even though it's abstract, it should trigger
something in me, a feeling, a manifestation of something positive
or negative that you could also perceive even if you
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came from a totally different background. So that is to say,
let's say that I go on a trip to Germany
and I don't speak German, and if you, I may
not know what the badge of a police officer says.
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But if I see the badge, I know it's a
police officer. That's a form of sigil, that's a form
of radiotic symbolism, and so it transcends culture. Music, of course,
also transcends culture and language, which is why they a
lot of people say music is the universal language, and
so sigils are symbols of the energy forms you might
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get from thing like music. Bearing that in mind, it's
good to remind yourself of this once in a while.
In my free ebook called five Minute Money Miracle Secret,
I wrote this, Give a man a fish and he
will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish,
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and you feed him for a lifetime. For this to work,
you must read everything carefully and thoughtfully. And by the way,
this is also an audiobook, so if you're visually impaired,
it still works fine. The audiobook is there on the website.
Money is not a physical thing. Money is an energy.
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The only way to attract more of it is to
improve your personal relationship with that energy. Then that energy
can bring you things via money. Remember these three truths.
Truth number one is money is not a physical thing,
It is an energy. Truth number two is to attract
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more money, you must improve your relationship with money energy.
And truth number three is money comes from one place,
and one place only other people. I go on to say,
before I explain the money Secret, let me explain a
bit more about the nature of money. Money is not
inherently good or bad like all powerful tools. It can
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be used for good or bad purposes. Think of a flame.
It can provide light, keep you warm, and cook your food,
but too much of it, used recklessly, can burn and
destroy an entire community. If for some reason you think
of money as a bad thing, you must realize you
are preventing it from flowing to you. Think about the
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good things you can do with money. Some believe money
is quote the root of all evil, citing a biblical quote,
but that is a misquote. The actual quote is that
love of money is the root of all evil. In
other words, money is not evil, but people who glorify
money for greedy purposes often perform evil selfish deeds like
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robberies and murders. Money itself is neutral. It is people
that decide whether or not to form a responsible, positive
relationship with money, attracting that to help themselves and others.
Author Arnold Patent said, quote, the sole purpose of money
is to express appreciation.
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In quote.
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Indeed, that is truly what the purpose of money is
meant to be. Remember it. And so, if you want
the universe to send more money your way, your way,
what are you doing in your life for which the
universe should express gratitude towards you. I think about that
one more time. If you want the universe to send
more money your way, what are you doing in your
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life for which the universe should express gratitude toward you?
How much positivity and value can you bring into the
world on a daily basis The answer you might be surprised.
I'll give you some ideas later. In order to start
quickly attracting money, you must learn to transform your idea
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of money from being a thing into a flow of energy.
And when you think of money, do you see a
dollar bill a gold coin? If you were lost in
the desert, dying of hunger and thirst, a pile of
one hundred dollars bills of gold coins next to you
would be worthless. I own an actual, authentic one hundred
trillion dollar bill. It was issued by the Government of
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Zimbabwe in two thousand and nine. A trillion is a
million millions. There are twelve zeros in a trillion, and
yet the one hundred trillion dollar bill would barely cover
the cost of a loaf of bread in Zimbabwe today,
the bill is worthless except people like me who purchased
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them off eBay as a curiosity or maybe it really
has even more value than ever. It's a powerful reminder
for me about what true value, true money is, instead
of the worthless things we use to merely symbolize it.
We so easily focus on the wrong thing. You can't
attract money until you know how to focus on real money.
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I'll get to that soon, I promise. You must also
be realistic when asking yourself how much money you really
need to be happy. It's okay to want money, we
all need it to survive, But do you really need
a million dollars? And twenty fifteen, I published a book
called Use the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law
of Attraction. You should definitely add it to your book list.
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You can actually read it for free in multiple languages
if you just go to Joshuapwarren dot com and click
on the book cover. In the book, I recounted the
sad story of an Illinois man who won a twenty
million dollar lottery in nineteen ninety six. He was very
generous with his money, lavishing gifts on his friends and
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loved ones. However, his sister in law and her boyfriend
wanted more. They kidnapped him. Initially with the ransom plan. However,
things went awry and they shot him in the head,
killing him. These tragic stories are far too common among
those who suddenly receive extraordinary amounts of money. It becomes
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a curse. All the problems the money was meant to
solve can quickly transform into much more serious problems. That
is another reason you should think very carefully about how
much you really need to attain a reasonable amount of
happiness and liberty. And now let's move on to the
technique that will allow abundance to start flowing your way quickly.
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That's all I'm going to read to you from this
free ebook, and again you can listen to it as
well as as a free audiobook, and then it comes
with tones. Go right now. If you've already signed up
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if you want to email me because you can't find
your link or whatever, that's fine. You'll find my email
address also at Joshua P. Warren dot com. This is
why I think that maybe that infinity symbol is so
important because if you really accept that money is the
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product of an energy of relationships.
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Then you will see.
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Why having something like a symbol for infinity so beautifully
matches with that concept of this perpetual abundance flow to you.
But it's also a give and take relationship that you
are putting out something of value that creates the reaction
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and sends things of value back to you. It's that
symbiotic relationship between you and how the society works, and
to some extent, some extent, that's always how it worked,
even even among the animals of the forest.
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It's always give and take. And when you think about the.
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Idea that everything exists within some realm of flowing energy,
and sometimes it's invisible to us. Our senses just can't
grasp it, and sometimes there are tools that allow us
to catch glimpses of it. This kind of thinking, opening
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our minds takes us closer and closer to actually being
able to look into and document this so called spirit realm.
And I conducted some ghost investigations. I guess the first
one was about six years ago, and then I conducted
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the second one about four years ago here in Las Vegas,
at a location that I don't think I've ever really
talked about. I did something I had never done before,
and that's saying.
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A lot for me.
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And as you know, I am working on an experiment
right now to try to open a portal here in Nevada,
and so I figure before I move on to telling
you how that's going, let me just tell you about
this other experiment that I did to try to see
if I could actually capture definitive scientific proof of a
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ghost once and for all. And ask yourself, what would
that have to be for you? If you don't believe
in ghosts, what would you need to see as evidence
to prove to you that ghosts and spirits are real?
Think about that. During the break, I'm Joshua Pete Warren.
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You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and
Ghoast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network, and I'll be
back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things, Bob,
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the iHeart Radio and Coast of a Paranormal podcast Network.
I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, and this is the
show where.
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The unusual becomes usual. Man.
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Speaking of spring, it's always when my allergies start to
bother me. Even out here in the desert. It was
pretty bad though, growing up in the mountains of Asheville,
North Carolina. Of course, I wrote a book called Haunted Ashville.
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It was published when I was still a teenager, and
a number of other books. But when I was in
my early twenties, I investigated a house in Ashville where
the young lady who lived there had been seeing some
type of apparitional figure moving around. And I've told this
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story before. It's really started freaking her out when it
would start appearing in her bedroom at night. And one
day I was in the attic of this house with
another researcher named Rob, and Rob said, Josh, look, I'd
been getting all kinds of strange electromagnetic and electrostatic fluctuations.
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But when I turned there was this kind of blue gray,
misty form about the size of maybe a softball, sort
of hovering right there in the air. And I was
just dumbfounded. He was looking at it from one point
of view, I was looking at it from another. We
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even reached out and touched it. It felt cold, and
then right as it started to dim, I took a
photograph of it and it showed up in the picture,
it wasn't in its full ast form because you know,
I guess say, I was mesmerized, but I got a
picture this thing, and I was so excited. But afterward
I was frustrated because I thought, you know, even though
I have a picture of this thing, that doesn't really
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prove that ghosts are real, because I don't have a
ghost trap like the Ghostbusters that I can suck the
ghost into and then release it later into a jar
in the museum. And you know, you take a picture
of something and people will say, well, this could be
an optical illusion. It could be this or that, And
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so I really thought a lot about like what is
the best we could do to try to capture evidence
that this is a real phenomenon. You know, both Rob
and I were seeing the same thing from two different
points of view. We both touched it, I photographed it.
I mean, it's like, what else do you have to do?
And then a few years after that, I was at
the Haunted Grove Park Inn in Asheville with my team
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and our visual and photographic specialist Brian Irish was with me.
We were in the Palm Core, an area haunted often
by the Pink Lady, among other apparitions, And Brian and
I were standing side by side, and we each had
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digital cameras, and I can't remember if we coordinated this
or if it just happened accidentally, but I took a
picture looking in one direction, and he took a picture
looking in the same direction about one second after I did.
So we had two pictures of this same area, made
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with two different cameras from two slightly different points of view.
And when we looked at our pictures, we had both
captured a big, glowing or block anomaly there. And to me,
it seemed like this was kind of almost like a
three D picture of a ghost, because reflections and glares
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and things like that are not usually they don't usually
look the same way from different angles. And by looking
at something from two different angles, you're able to tell
a lot about its physical dimensions, how big it is
a relationship to other things, how high it is up
in the air. There's just a lot more information there.
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But what would be fantastic would be to have a
ghost photographed from oh about five or six different angles,
and that way you could really it seems proved that
you had something there. It reminds you of you know,
the technology like they use in the matrix movies when
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the character jumps up to the ear and the character
stands still, but the camera sweeps around three hundred and
sixty degrees. That's what it would be like. If you
could get a ring of cameras and you could have
a ghost appear in the middle of that ring, and
it got captured on all the cameras, then you could
construct something out of that that would basically be almost
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incontestinble roof that you captured something that was there in
that external environment. That may be, you know, the holy
grail of ghost hunting other than some form of reliable communication.
So for years I've been looking at places where I
might have the highest chances of setting up an experiment
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where I have literally, like I say, six or seven cameras,
they're all centered on one controlled space that's supposed to
be haunted, and in the middle of that space, I
have a variety of scientific tools so that if we
do capture something on all the cameras and the tools
are triggering at the same time, picking up electro electromagnetic fields,
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electrostatic fields, vibrations, temperature anomalies, etc. Then you could put
all that together and you could basically say, look, this
is proof of ghosts, that whatever a ghost is, this
is a real manifestation here. I'd been on the search
for a long time for a place that I thought
would give me high chances of that, and I finally
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learned about this old, run down motel here in Las
Vegas called the Oasis Motel. This motel apparently was built
back in the early nineteen fifties, making it a real
anomaly around here because they tear stuff down here and
rebuild and make new stuff, you know, left and right.
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It is an old rundown property. I don't even know
how much longer it's going to continue being there. I'm
surprised it's still there. The address is seventeen thirty one
South Las Vegas Boulevard, number one thirty one, the Oasis Motel.
And I started hearing after I moved to Las Vegas
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that there was a very prominent ghost in one of
the rooms. An actor had killed himself. The actor's name
was David Strickland. He was born in nineteen sixty nine
and he died in nineteen ninety nine, and he was
best known for playing the role of reporter on the
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NBC sitcom Suddenly Susan. I'm sure some of you remember
that it starred Brooke Shields, and he apparently was doing
very well for himself. I mean, he'd been on You,
had guest starred on shows like Roseanne, Mad About You.
I mean, it seemed like he was doing very well.
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But they say that he suffered from a bipolar disorder
and he had long and troubled history of drug and
alcohol abuse. Five months before he died, he was arrested
for cocaine possession. That kind of thing was sort of
you know, in and out of rehab, and so on
March twenty second, nineteen ninety nine, he was found dead,
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age twenty nine. They say that it all began on
March twentieth, David Strickland and the comedian Andy Dick flew
from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and spent three nights
partying in strip clubs. After checking into a motel, he
spent time with well they say, a prostitute consumed six
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bottles of beer and then hanged himself with a bed
sheet over the ceiling beam, so they found him found
him there the next morning. His body was discovered by
a private investigator hired by Brooks Shields, and so very
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very tragic. As a matter of fact, a lot of
you know, speaking of Andy Dick, I won't get into it,
but you know that he's had a lot of bad luck,
it seems like in his life as well. So I
started looking into it, and I believe I found that
even Zach Beagans had once gone there and started researching
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this room because everybody said he committed suicide and room
number twenty, Room number twenty, that's where you'd want to go.
That's where his body was found hanging, Room number twenty.
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Well, I went.
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Over there one day, and you never know what kind
of a reaction you're going to get from people at
the front desk, so I had to be kind of
careful about how I approached this. I walked into the
office with one of those offices where the employees are
behind a bulletproof glass or a crylic and I started
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inquiring about specifically renting room number twenty. And she looks
at me and says, are you a ghost hunter? And
I said, oh, well, I would never admit to that,
you know, And she goes, that's okay, she said, you know,
the the boss doesn't like talking about that sort of thing,
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but she says, yeah, we have reports all the time
from number twenty. And she said, but we probably have
even more from room number six. She said, a room
number six is so haunted. There's some kind of a
ghost of a woman in there, and she throws objects
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around like a poultry. Guys, it's so haunted.
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She said.
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They can't even get housekeeping to go in there and
clean room number six. They got to pull teeth. They
have to pay extra money, They have to convince them
to go into rooms room number six. So I was like, well,
I was going to come here and set up my
rig and room number twenty, but maybe I'll start with
room number six. So sure enough, I spent a lot
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of money and bought a whole brand new rig. I
think it was seven cameras. I even refreshed the latest
new equipment, and I was able to room number six.
Went over there in the afternoon, set up everything in
a big ring, focused on the bed in the middle
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where all the instruments were, and I left everything recording
and I came back, oh about twelve hours later, which
was as long as I could record at that time.
When we return I'll tell you what my results were.
And then also I think I have a story to
share with you, another ghost story from Ashville about a
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woman who says, be careful what you wish for. I'm
Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'll be right back. Welcome back to the final segment.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
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I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. So I got
room six and I set up every camera you know.
I don't even remember how many cameras I put.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
This was twenty nineteen, and I had full spectrum cameras.
I had camera shooting into the infrared night vision UV.
They were all electronic. I did not have like a
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film motion picture camera, even though I have used those
in the past. I stuffed cameras all over that room
from every angle you can possibly conceive of, all focused
on the middle of the room. I had a big
needle there with a lightweight piece of paper shaped like
a pyramid balanced on top of it, so I could
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see if there were air currents that were flowing. Right
in the middle was an instrument pack, a number of
instrument packs that could pick up a wide variety of
electromagnetic frequencies, electrostatic charges, vibrations, temperature fluctuations. I mean, I
had audio recorders. I'm telling you, this was like my
ultimate attempt at setting all this stuff up focused on
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this one area. I thought, if something uppears in the
middle of this room and it's documented on all of
these cameras and the equipment's responding, like, this is going
to make history. So I left it there again probably
at least twelve hours, went picked everything.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Up, so this is going to take a long time
to analyze it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Brought everything back to my office and I started going
through the process of looking at each and every one
and I didn't get anything. And you know, there were
times when I would see some electromagnetic flux, but that
could just be because an airplane flew over or something.
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Because I was using very sensitive equipment, there are times
where I would hear a little noise like a bump
or a crack or something, and occasionally it would coincide
with the EMF. But still it wasn't like I heard
a voice or anything. It was a lot of work.
It was very disappointing.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So I went back.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Two years later and I had bought even more sophisticated equipment,
and this time I said, all right, I'm going to
do it in room number twenty where David Strickland committed suicide.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
It was so eerie it was. It was a very
it was a cold winter day, very very dry, crairy,
you know where you can hear that stack like Christy crackling.
Go into this little shabby room and there was the
beam where he had, you know, from which he had
hanged himself, and it was just it almost made me sick,
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to be honest with you, being in just the feeling
of depression in that room.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I set up all of my gear. It did
the same thing when picked it up, sat down. Took
me a couple of days to analyze it, and again.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I didn't really get anything.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Now, Like I say, there were some times, for yes,
there was some weird noises, some weird electromagnetic flux, but
I'm looking for something very very tangible and very solid
at this point and my ghost hunting career and I
don't go doing a lot of ghost investigations. But I
didn't get anything on those investigations. And I know you're
you're sitting there thinking like, well, that's a that's a
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bummer story, Josh, Why did you tell us that? Well,
here is why I believe that it's still possible for
one of you out there to use this approach to
make history. If you if now that I put this
idea in your head, here's how you have to do this.
And it's certainly possible that a lot of these ghosts
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cannot even be photographed with current technology, that we do
not have the ability to do that visually. You know
Nikola Tesla was he basically invented X rays. He didn't
get the credit for it. He but a guy named Rogan,
who studied Tesla's work, got the credit for it. But
Tesla figured out how to capture images of people's bones
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inside their body. He called them shadow graphs, and it
was like, how did this guy do that? I know
that they're there are things that cannot be captured with
current technology, but I also know there are things that
can be Because I bet you if I'd had that
same setup in that attic but that misappeared, that would
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have done it. That would have been the proof we're
looking for, at least for most people, and I would
have been able to turn all of it over to
analysts and have them examine it skeptically and all that
sort of thing. But I am still going to attempt
this from time to time. But I was being very
secretive about it because I wanted, frankly, to get the
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credit for being the first person to capture a ghost
this way. But at this point, I don't even care
about being the first person. I just want I care
about the research. I want to know that we can
prove that the ghosts are there. Let's get past that
blockage so that we can start working more on how
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these work in society, what these things are. I have
a message from a woman in Asheville, Sarah Harrison, telling
me about an event that happened to her there in
Asheville in two thousand and nine. Of course, one of
the most haunted places in Ashville is Helen's Bridge, and
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the story is whether it's true or not that my
woman named Helen hanged herself on that bridge sometime in
the late eighteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds, and that
she haunts that area as well. As the nearby castle
called Zelandia. They say she did it because she was
distraught over the death of her daughter. Whether or not
that is true, and I did write about that haunted Ashville.
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We have discovered that there were a lot of other
deaths there associated with the castle, including the death of
a man who committed suicide near that bridge.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
He was a workman. But here's what she wrote.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
This tale is one that teaches the lesson be careful
what you wish for, especially who you want to visit
you from an otherworldly realm. I'm the leader of a
paranormal group in Ashville, North Carolina. The members of the Hickory,
North Carolina group were visiting and wished to see a
local infamous haunt named Helen's Bridge. We drove up Bouquetcher
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Mountain and two cars my team and one the Hickory
group and the other. The leader of the Hickory group
had brought along his teenage brother, and as we were
exploring Helen's Bridge, the younger brother ran up and down
the bridge, yelling Helen come forth, over and over. After
a while, we decided to head down the mountain for
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spirits of another kind. I drove my car down first,
with the other car following. The people in my car
saw nothing out of the ordinary. As we reached the bottom,
the other car pulled over. Everyone in the second car
was shaking, and pell the kid brother was wide eyed
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and speechless for the first time that night. The story
they told was chilling. As they were driving down the mountain,
a woman came out of the woods. She had on
a long dress and had long hair, but the worst
part was her face. It was contorted and hideous, like
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something out of a horror movie. It was too grotesque
to be a human being. And they left, swearing never
to visit Helen's Bridge again. I've returned to Helen's Bridge
many times since that night, and I've wondered if Helen
was there, floating just out of reach of my senses.
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I do know that I will never again say those
three words, Helen, come forth. Thank you, Sarah for that story.
You know what I So many people have told me
over the years about Helen's stories. I could probably do
a whole podcast about the Helen's Bridge. I myself had
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an experience up there one night where I pulled under
the bridge and said, Helen come forth, and immediately the
alternator died on my car and I was stranded up
there about midnight on this foggy October night. This was
back before cell phones. I had to walk down that
mountain alone. I'm telling you all these stories, they're going
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to prove to be real someday. We just need the
proper approach, the proper technique, proper technology. Just have about
a minute left. Here's some mental manna for you, going
back to word origins. You know people say, oh, I
saw the ghost, and then I made a bee line
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for the door. Why do people say they make a
bee line when they mean they're running in a straight line,
Because you think that they would say, well, I am
a you know, you think a B line would be
in the shape of it be maybe kind of like
the figure eight. Turns out, from what I've read, it's
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called a B line because it's not named after the
letter B. It's named after the insect b ee. That apparently,
bees are so effective and productive that they always are
able to take the most straight and direct path right
back to the hive. And that, my friends, is why
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they say we call that straight dash back to a
place a bee line. All right, you know what time
it is? If you can close your eyes, take a
deep breath, let's all meditate on making next week the
best week ever for you and everybody else listening here.
It is the one, the only, the original, the world
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