January 5, 2025 • 16 mins
Guest host Richard Syrett and author Billy Carson discuss our universe as a hologram.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mel here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When I think of a holograph, I think of, for example,
on the credit card, that image, you know, that makes
it more secure, I suppose, And now they're using it
on currency money. Holographs often they're produced or I think
they're entirely produced by lasers. And I'm also thinking of
(00:26):
you know, there's a digital aspect to them. So you know,
when I think of digital, I think of ones and zeros.
So I mean, if you scratch beneath the surface, then
are we going to find like ones and zeros as
in the matrix of our universe?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah. Absolutely, we're finding mathematical codes throughout the known universe.
We're finding zeros and ones on the Once the observer
collapses the waves of superposition into reality, and you know,
you're touching on the hologram itself. One we were talking about.
It's basically created when a laser beam is split into
(01:04):
two parts, and so one part shigns are directly on
the object and the other shines onto a photographic plate.
And when these two light waves meet, they interfere and
create a pattern of light, and basically the dark lines
are called an interference pattern. This interference pattern has to
do with projecting the actual hologram. When another laser laser
(01:25):
shines through the recorded interference pattern, it recreates the light waves,
making it appear as if the object is present in
three D, and so it has a similar effect that
we see within the universe and digital medium. For example,
a hologram is unique because even if you break it
into smaller pieces, it still contains the entire image, the
(01:47):
same way as if you're using parabolic downton version with lasers. Also,
we see the complexity and also the simplicity between the two.
Both holograms and fractals emerge from simple rules, and we
can see that these mathematical codes are embedded within nature itself.
(02:08):
So we can see several patterns within nature. We can
see Pi five, we can see the Fibonacci sequence. We
can also see the Golden ratio, and of course we
can see the Mandel broad set. So when you look
at all of these things, all of a sudden, you're
finding out that there's a fingerprint. If the universe. If
the creation of the universe was a crime scene, and
(02:31):
we were CSI universal investigators, the evidence left behind a
fingerprint of a creator would be these mathematical codes and
of course zeros and one two digital bits of information.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So if there is a code, there must be a programmer. Who,
who or what is responsible?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That is the great question that we seek to ponder
within my book Fractal Holographic Universe. Who is the pro Now,
for some people, they believe it's God, they believe it's
the universe, some people call it nature, whatever you call it,
there obviously clearly is a programmer. So I believe there's
a programmer. And from my perception, I'm calling that a God,
(03:15):
because a god at that level, an entity at that level,
has the power to program an entire universe. So I
believe that there's a God. I believe that there's a
God that's imbued this universe with divine energy and fractal holography.
And we're living fully immersed in this fractal holographic matrix,
(03:35):
but we're in viue with divine energy, that spark of
life that's within all of us, that's within every vibrating
at them. And I believe that God is us and
we are godre We're a fractal of God itself. Living
life subjectively and individually with the illusion of individuality here
and the third dimension to experience what it's like, like
I said earlier, to be us, to be individuals, and
(03:57):
to be other things. And so who is that grand creator?
You know, that's a question that we truly cannot exactly answer.
But to put a label on it, I would just
say that that creator is God. That's the one mass
known uh in spirituality, consciousness that permeates all of reality.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Now, not to be flippant, but when I'm thinking of
a coder, you know, I'm thinking of someone sitting behind
a computer, you know, using I don't know Fortran or
whatever the computer ink which you're using to code. I mean,
how do you see this? How do you see God?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, that's a great question. I actually see God as
a super divine being that has the capability of utilizing
these codes, not by sitting at some type of grand
universal computer or a multi versal computer, but probably through
frequency technology. Frequency and sound. We know that through cimatic frequencies.
(04:59):
So if you take cladney plate and put a speaker
underneath it and vibrate a speaker with sand on top
of the cladney plate, you will get different patterns, different
geometrical patterns, the same patterns that create life in the
third dimension. And in the Bible it says in the
beginning was the word, and the word was God the word?
What is the word? If somebody is speaking a word,
(05:22):
that word is a frequency. All words, all spoken word
are frequencies. So now we're getting into the age of
frequency healing in actual mainstream science and mainstream health where
they're utilizing frequencies two to break down cancer cells and
heal and heal diseases in the body and so forth.
(05:44):
So they are children that frequencies have power. They can
shape reality, they can change things, they can heal, and
so I believe that this divine codeer is using specific
frequencies to create this entire realm. And to add to that,
it has to do also with the frequencies creating these crystals.
(06:04):
And what I mean by that I go over this
in my book. Scientists in laboratory settings were able to
create eighth dimensional quasi crystals using specific frequencies. Now, these
eighth dimensional quasi crystals were then pivoted into a particular
angle and that angle cast down a fourth dimensional quasi crystal,
(06:27):
and the fourth dimensional quasi crystal would cast into a
particular angle, cast down a gigantic shadow of a sphere,
a sphere of light, not a shadow meaning darkness, but
a sphere of light. And so they were It was
completely mind bending because they realized that we're living in
the shadow of a higher dimension made of frequencies of
(06:49):
light and vibration, and this could be what is fueling
and helping to create this fractal holographic matrix.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So our reality here in the third dimension is we
are but a shadow of something that exists elsewhere. And this, this,
I guess, brings us to Plato's allegory of the Cave,
because that's what he was talking about, right, shadows on
the cave wall. Was he actually talking about another dimension?
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He was trying to give an example. But Plato was
trying to give an example to show people that what
you think is reality isn't exactly reality, right, So you're
trying to your initial perception of what's going on may
not be the totality of all that really is going on.
And I think that's what Plato was trying to describe
in the Allegory of the Cave. The allegory of the
(07:38):
Cave is a very very important work because it really
gives us the idea of understanding philosophically the metaphor of
the perception of reality. So he has prisoners that are
chained up in the cave and they can only see
their shadows on the wall, or other shadows on the
wall in front of them and behind the prisoners of
fire is there, you know, creating this illusion of the
(08:00):
shadows and all they can see of these casts and shadows.
When one prisoner is free, he discovers that the objects
and the fire causing the shadows were really something totally different.
So his perception was expanded, and so when the prisoners
let out of the cave into the sunlight, he experiences
the true world, realizing that the shadows were merely just
(08:23):
illusions of what's really going on on a grander scale.
And so the journey that he went on symbolizes the
enlightenment and the discovery of truth. Beyond the appearance, that
initial appearance of what we think is, there is only
a tiny glimpse of reality. And so he's when he
becomes enlightened by this, he returns back to the cave
(08:44):
to share them, to share his discovery with the other prisoners,
and they mock him when they don't want to believe
his revelations. You know, he's become completely enlightened to the
true reality of the fullness of life. But because they
have no context, they can even believe what he's telling them.
And you know that really relates to the fractals as well,
(09:06):
because you know, the free prisoner's journey out of the
cave symbolizes the transition from ignorance to knowledge, and when
you study the fractals, such as the Mandolbrod set, it
could be seen really like a metaphysical journey into like
hidden layers of reality which can unveal the universe and
all the governing principles that surround it mathematically. So when
(09:27):
you become enlightened, when you begin to understand truly and
depthly about the fractal holographic nature of the universe, of
mathematical codes that bind us all and drive reality, all
of a sudden you begin to see reality totally different.
It's like your consciousness has been expanded and you now
realize that distance is an illusion, individuality is an illusion.
(09:49):
There's only one consciousness, and we are all a fractal
of that one God mind, and that we are all
living life subjectively and for the purpose of, in my opinion,
the mission to experience life subjectively, to collect information and
transmit it back to source. Source wants to know what
it's like to live within this realm and other realms
(10:10):
most likely as well, maybe even other universes. So we're
just a we're a small piece on a grand scale.
But I believe it makes me feel bigger because for me,
what it tells me is I'm connected to this vastness
that is so expansive and so incredible, and I'm connected
to all of that energetically through a frequency, and it's
(10:31):
all part of me, and I am part of it.
I don't feel smaller. I actually feel bigger from this information.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So you mentioned Plato's allegory of the cave. Can you
give me give us some other examples, maybe from ancient
texts or ancient literature that seems to indicate the ancients
they were onto this, They knew that we were living
in a holographic universe.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh, the ancients were spot on. I mean we keep
calling these ancient people savages. I mean these people were
super intelligent. If you look into these ancient cultures, and
you're like blown away when you compare what they what
they've said to modern science and you see that it
matches up. For example, you know the hermetic principles that
go back and to the Greek teachings is really go
(11:17):
back even further than that, because they be really originally
were the chemetic principles of ancient chemt And you're talking
about as above, so below, the principle of cause and
effect and all this mind and all these different principles
which are directly related to the fractoholographic nature of the universe.
And you know, the Hermetic principle for example, of as above,
so below in ancient Egypt, which is ancient Chemic Greece,
(11:40):
it embodies the idea of self similarity across all scales.
It's a concept of fractals that goes back tens of
thousands of years. And then you have you know the
way that they built their structures, all their ancient temples,
the pyramids and zigarocks, all of them were designed based
on the semme tree and scaling and all of the
(12:02):
mimic fractal patterns. And then you look into even the
uh let's see the Hindu but you can go into
Handu philosophy. Uh you know, it's that they have the
concept of the physical world being actually an illusion and
there's a they say that there's a veil that obscures
the true infinite nature of reality. So the mayas aligning
(12:23):
with fractals because both suggest a hidden structure beneath the
surface appearance, something more grand that's really truly going on
beyond beyond what we can actually see. In Buddhism, they
explore the nature of reality and they teach that and
describe that reality is constantly shifting like an illusion, and
it's impermanent. They say, so it's dependent upon your perception
(12:46):
of reality as to what's really going on. And that's
connecting to fractals because they're saying, well, they're they're saying
they're saying that there are deeper realities that are revealed
at the closer that you actually look, and there's no
app ground levels. You can keep going and going and going.
How did they know that that fractals are supplemental patterns
that goes infinantly deeper. And of course you know indigenous
(13:10):
uh Natives, you know Native American spiritual practices emphasize interconnected
web of life. Uh at a very small you know scale.
They talk about this, uh the hope. We talk about
this world wide web connected that information can travel to
and pro instantaneously. I mean the Greek philosophers of course,
you know, the allegory of the ca which we talked about,
(13:31):
and many other philosophical insights all lead to the fact
that they believe we're living in a fractal holographic universe
or that this this universe, what we're experiencing in three
D is illusory. Even the the indigenous tribes of the Americas,
they say that we're living in sleepy time, and so
in dream time they say dream time. But then go
(13:52):
across the world to Australia, another continent, and the Aboriginal
elders for thousands of years they are verbal hand it
down history says we're living in dream time. So how
can these two separated cultures by thousands of miles have
the same concept and understanding of our reality. They were
onto something so incredible and so great. They understood and
(14:13):
knew that this world, this universe that we're living in
is an illusion, meaning that it's not not that it
means it's not real, but meaning that it's made of
this this code that gives the illusory of what's going
on here. It's like we're living in a gigantic holid
deck from star Trek or something.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Right right, Speaking about the ancients, you know that that
ancient symbol sometimes called the star tetrahedron. Sometimes I think
it's called the flower of life. And it's been suggested
to me that the the flower of life and the
star tetor he dren is is a two dimensional representation
(14:53):
of the atom, which is like the building block right
of the of the of of matter. I mean, do
you believe that the ancients understood what an atom was
before you know, the advent of microscopes and so forth.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. They had a
vast understanding of not only atoms, even subatomic particles. They had.
I mean, there's many places where they can they can
even see microscopic organisms. I mean, there's many depictions of
sperm entering into ovum that are depicted carved in the stone. Now,
how can they see the ovary the obum? I'm sorry,
(15:33):
and how can they actually even see the sperm? Those
are microscopic things that we can't see with the naked eye.
Yet there are depictions of that all around the world,
like just even when saw some in Turkey, there's some
in India, there's someone even in Indiandigenous Americas. So how
did they know this? So they had the capability of that.
But in terms of the atom, we know that even
(15:53):
back in the Greek philosophers, they learned about atomic structures
from the ancient people of ancient Chemic predic Egypt, which
was then taught and brought intoge knowledge was brought into Egypt.
The Greeks took that as well and learned about that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
When I think of a holograph, I think of, for example,
on the credit card, that image, you know, that makes
it more secure, I suppose, And now they're using it
on currency money. Holographs often they're produced or I think
they're entirely produced by lasers. And I'm also thinking of
(00:26):
you know, there's a digital aspect to them. So you know,
when I think of digital, I think of ones and zeros.
So I mean, if you scratch beneath the surface, then
are we going to find like ones and zeros as
in the matrix of our universe?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah. Absolutely, we're finding mathematical codes throughout the known universe.
We're finding zeros and ones on the Once the observer
collapses the waves of superposition into reality, and you know,
you're touching on the hologram itself. One we were talking about.
It's basically created when a laser beam is split into
(01:04):
two parts, and so one part shigns are directly on
the object and the other shines onto a photographic plate.
And when these two light waves meet, they interfere and
create a pattern of light, and basically the dark lines
are called an interference pattern. This interference pattern has to
do with projecting the actual hologram. When another laser laser
(01:25):
shines through the recorded interference pattern, it recreates the light waves,
making it appear as if the object is present in
three D, and so it has a similar effect that
we see within the universe and digital medium. For example,
a hologram is unique because even if you break it
into smaller pieces, it still contains the entire image, the
(01:47):
same way as if you're using parabolic downton version with lasers. Also,
we see the complexity and also the simplicity between the two.
Both holograms and fractals emerge from simple rules, and we
can see that these mathematical codes are embedded within nature itself.
(02:08):
So we can see several patterns within nature. We can
see Pi five, we can see the Fibonacci sequence. We
can also see the Golden ratio, and of course we
can see the Mandel broad set. So when you look
at all of these things, all of a sudden, you're
finding out that there's a fingerprint. If the universe. If
the creation of the universe was a crime scene, and
(02:31):
we were CSI universal investigators, the evidence left behind a
fingerprint of a creator would be these mathematical codes and
of course zeros and one two digital bits of information.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So if there is a code, there must be a programmer. Who,
who or what is responsible?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That is the great question that we seek to ponder
within my book Fractal Holographic Universe. Who is the pro Now,
for some people, they believe it's God, they believe it's
the universe, some people call it nature, whatever you call it,
there obviously clearly is a programmer. So I believe there's
a programmer. And from my perception, I'm calling that a God,
(03:15):
because a god at that level, an entity at that level,
has the power to program an entire universe. So I
believe that there's a God. I believe that there's a
God that's imbued this universe with divine energy and fractal holography.
And we're living fully immersed in this fractal holographic matrix,
(03:35):
but we're in viue with divine energy, that spark of
life that's within all of us, that's within every vibrating
at them. And I believe that God is us and
we are godre We're a fractal of God itself. Living
life subjectively and individually with the illusion of individuality here
and the third dimension to experience what it's like, like
I said earlier, to be us, to be individuals, and
(03:57):
to be other things. And so who is that grand creator?
You know, that's a question that we truly cannot exactly answer.
But to put a label on it, I would just
say that that creator is God. That's the one mass
known uh in spirituality, consciousness that permeates all of reality.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Now, not to be flippant, but when I'm thinking of
a coder, you know, I'm thinking of someone sitting behind
a computer, you know, using I don't know Fortran or
whatever the computer ink which you're using to code. I mean,
how do you see this? How do you see God?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, that's a great question. I actually see God as
a super divine being that has the capability of utilizing
these codes, not by sitting at some type of grand
universal computer or a multi versal computer, but probably through
frequency technology. Frequency and sound. We know that through cimatic frequencies.
(04:59):
So if you take cladney plate and put a speaker
underneath it and vibrate a speaker with sand on top
of the cladney plate, you will get different patterns, different
geometrical patterns, the same patterns that create life in the
third dimension. And in the Bible it says in the
beginning was the word, and the word was God the word?
What is the word? If somebody is speaking a word,
(05:22):
that word is a frequency. All words, all spoken word
are frequencies. So now we're getting into the age of
frequency healing in actual mainstream science and mainstream health where
they're utilizing frequencies two to break down cancer cells and
heal and heal diseases in the body and so forth.
(05:44):
So they are children that frequencies have power. They can
shape reality, they can change things, they can heal, and
so I believe that this divine codeer is using specific
frequencies to create this entire realm. And to add to that,
it has to do also with the frequencies creating these crystals.
(06:04):
And what I mean by that I go over this
in my book. Scientists in laboratory settings were able to
create eighth dimensional quasi crystals using specific frequencies. Now, these
eighth dimensional quasi crystals were then pivoted into a particular
angle and that angle cast down a fourth dimensional quasi crystal,
(06:27):
and the fourth dimensional quasi crystal would cast into a
particular angle, cast down a gigantic shadow of a sphere,
a sphere of light, not a shadow meaning darkness, but
a sphere of light. And so they were It was
completely mind bending because they realized that we're living in
the shadow of a higher dimension made of frequencies of
(06:49):
light and vibration, and this could be what is fueling
and helping to create this fractal holographic matrix.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So our reality here in the third dimension is we
are but a shadow of something that exists elsewhere. And this, this,
I guess, brings us to Plato's allegory of the Cave,
because that's what he was talking about, right, shadows on
the cave wall. Was he actually talking about another dimension?
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He was trying to give an example. But Plato was
trying to give an example to show people that what
you think is reality isn't exactly reality, right, So you're
trying to your initial perception of what's going on may
not be the totality of all that really is going on.
And I think that's what Plato was trying to describe
in the Allegory of the Cave. The allegory of the
(07:38):
Cave is a very very important work because it really
gives us the idea of understanding philosophically the metaphor of
the perception of reality. So he has prisoners that are
chained up in the cave and they can only see
their shadows on the wall, or other shadows on the
wall in front of them and behind the prisoners of
fire is there, you know, creating this illusion of the
(08:00):
shadows and all they can see of these casts and shadows.
When one prisoner is free, he discovers that the objects
and the fire causing the shadows were really something totally different.
So his perception was expanded, and so when the prisoners
let out of the cave into the sunlight, he experiences
the true world, realizing that the shadows were merely just
(08:23):
illusions of what's really going on on a grander scale.
And so the journey that he went on symbolizes the
enlightenment and the discovery of truth. Beyond the appearance, that
initial appearance of what we think is, there is only
a tiny glimpse of reality. And so he's when he
becomes enlightened by this, he returns back to the cave
(08:44):
to share them, to share his discovery with the other prisoners,
and they mock him when they don't want to believe
his revelations. You know, he's become completely enlightened to the
true reality of the fullness of life. But because they
have no context, they can even believe what he's telling them.
And you know that really relates to the fractals as well,
(09:06):
because you know, the free prisoner's journey out of the
cave symbolizes the transition from ignorance to knowledge, and when
you study the fractals, such as the Mandolbrod set, it
could be seen really like a metaphysical journey into like
hidden layers of reality which can unveal the universe and
all the governing principles that surround it mathematically. So when
(09:27):
you become enlightened, when you begin to understand truly and
depthly about the fractal holographic nature of the universe, of
mathematical codes that bind us all and drive reality, all
of a sudden you begin to see reality totally different.
It's like your consciousness has been expanded and you now
realize that distance is an illusion, individuality is an illusion.
(09:49):
There's only one consciousness, and we are all a fractal
of that one God mind, and that we are all
living life subjectively and for the purpose of, in my opinion,
the mission to experience life subjectively, to collect information and
transmit it back to source. Source wants to know what
it's like to live within this realm and other realms
(10:10):
most likely as well, maybe even other universes. So we're
just a we're a small piece on a grand scale.
But I believe it makes me feel bigger because for me,
what it tells me is I'm connected to this vastness
that is so expansive and so incredible, and I'm connected
to all of that energetically through a frequency, and it's
(10:31):
all part of me, and I am part of it.
I don't feel smaller. I actually feel bigger from this information.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So you mentioned Plato's allegory of the cave. Can you
give me give us some other examples, maybe from ancient
texts or ancient literature that seems to indicate the ancients
they were onto this, They knew that we were living
in a holographic universe.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh, the ancients were spot on. I mean we keep
calling these ancient people savages. I mean these people were
super intelligent. If you look into these ancient cultures, and
you're like blown away when you compare what they what
they've said to modern science and you see that it
matches up. For example, you know the hermetic principles that
go back and to the Greek teachings is really go
(11:17):
back even further than that, because they be really originally
were the chemetic principles of ancient chemt And you're talking
about as above, so below, the principle of cause and
effect and all this mind and all these different principles
which are directly related to the fractoholographic nature of the universe.
And you know, the Hermetic principle for example, of as above,
so below in ancient Egypt, which is ancient Chemic Greece,
(11:40):
it embodies the idea of self similarity across all scales.
It's a concept of fractals that goes back tens of
thousands of years. And then you have you know the
way that they built their structures, all their ancient temples,
the pyramids and zigarocks, all of them were designed based
on the semme tree and scaling and all of the
(12:02):
mimic fractal patterns. And then you look into even the
uh let's see the Hindu but you can go into
Handu philosophy. Uh you know, it's that they have the
concept of the physical world being actually an illusion and
there's a they say that there's a veil that obscures
the true infinite nature of reality. So the mayas aligning
(12:23):
with fractals because both suggest a hidden structure beneath the
surface appearance, something more grand that's really truly going on
beyond beyond what we can actually see. In Buddhism, they
explore the nature of reality and they teach that and
describe that reality is constantly shifting like an illusion, and
it's impermanent. They say, so it's dependent upon your perception
(12:46):
of reality as to what's really going on. And that's
connecting to fractals because they're saying, well, they're they're saying
they're saying that there are deeper realities that are revealed
at the closer that you actually look, and there's no
app ground levels. You can keep going and going and going.
How did they know that that fractals are supplemental patterns
that goes infinantly deeper. And of course you know indigenous
(13:10):
uh Natives, you know Native American spiritual practices emphasize interconnected
web of life. Uh at a very small you know scale.
They talk about this, uh the hope. We talk about
this world wide web connected that information can travel to
and pro instantaneously. I mean the Greek philosophers of course,
you know, the allegory of the ca which we talked about,
(13:31):
and many other philosophical insights all lead to the fact
that they believe we're living in a fractal holographic universe
or that this this universe, what we're experiencing in three
D is illusory. Even the the indigenous tribes of the Americas,
they say that we're living in sleepy time, and so
in dream time they say dream time. But then go
(13:52):
across the world to Australia, another continent, and the Aboriginal
elders for thousands of years they are verbal hand it
down history says we're living in dream time. So how
can these two separated cultures by thousands of miles have
the same concept and understanding of our reality. They were
onto something so incredible and so great. They understood and
(14:13):
knew that this world, this universe that we're living in
is an illusion, meaning that it's not not that it
means it's not real, but meaning that it's made of
this this code that gives the illusory of what's going
on here. It's like we're living in a gigantic holid
deck from star Trek or something.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Right right, Speaking about the ancients, you know that that
ancient symbol sometimes called the star tetrahedron. Sometimes I think
it's called the flower of life. And it's been suggested
to me that the the flower of life and the
star tetor he dren is is a two dimensional representation
(14:53):
of the atom, which is like the building block right
of the of the of of matter. I mean, do
you believe that the ancients understood what an atom was
before you know, the advent of microscopes and so forth.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. They had a
vast understanding of not only atoms, even subatomic particles. They had.
I mean, there's many places where they can they can
even see microscopic organisms. I mean, there's many depictions of
sperm entering into ovum that are depicted carved in the stone. Now,
how can they see the ovary the obum? I'm sorry,
(15:33):
and how can they actually even see the sperm? Those
are microscopic things that we can't see with the naked eye.
Yet there are depictions of that all around the world,
like just even when saw some in Turkey, there's some
in India, there's someone even in Indiandigenous Americas. So how
did they know this? So they had the capability of that.
But in terms of the atom, we know that even
(15:53):
back in the Greek philosophers, they learned about atomic structures
from the ancient people of ancient Chemic predic Egypt, which
was then taught and brought intoge knowledge was brought into Egypt.
The Greeks took that as well and learned about that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
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