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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Tilly and Tanya rap an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Scrub Dub Dub and the dubtutu.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was absolutely a gift for the eyes and the ears.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
What would you like to talk about? Because you don't
like to jump straight into the dear Banya stuff.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I don't. I like to feather in a little bit
of like how are you feeling, how's your heart? What's new?
Like what's going on? Give me summer plans? Like, give
us a little something.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, I love We're in spring right now, and I
love spring, and you're trying to rush me into summer
and I want to.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Be mostly in spring. People plan for summer and then
mostly in summer.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
People don't plan at all. I'm not a planner. Oh,
I'm just existing in the time that I'm in. Wow,
imagine you're eighty years old and you get to come
back to this day. Are you just gonna be a friend?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm seeing that all over. I'm like, what the hell
is going on here? Is this person really eighty? Like
I didn't get it at first. I was like, is
this person really eighty? And they'd like have good skincare
or like what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
No, it's just like it's like trying to get people
to just be present and enjoy the day. Don't like
wish away this time of your life, because when you
turn eighty, you'll be looking back going like, what what
I would give to be thirty six again, in a
healthy body where I can go outside and go on
a hike and have the energy and look in the
mirror and not feel you know, old.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I know it's nice, So.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Quit trying to get me to think about summer when
I'm in spring.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Oh wow, this went into a ted talk that I
was not anticipating I might do.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
That might be my new career path, just ted talks
across the nation.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, my new career path might be helping women find
prenatals that don't make them naw twenty four seven. Oh
I've heard about that. Oh my god, I've heard.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
And you know what really intimidates me about pregnancy if
I ever choose to do it, what the nausea of
the first trimester.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's just the thing is, you just never know. Not
everybody's the same. Some people have no nausea.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Who do you know that has had none. No, No,
so many people really yeah, like zero percent nausea.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Zero percent.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Name you like ten, I'm listening.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
One or two.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I'll get you off the podcast. Okay, Yeah, but
like not want you to know people to know that
they didn't. Yeah, exactly exactly, it's top secret information. But yeah,
I feel like so many people have like such different pregnancies,
Like you can't compare and then you don't. The thing
that's weird is that you just don't know until you know,

(02:52):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I just was thinking about how horrible I feel when
I'm just like even hungover nauseous, and how or just
sick and nauseous, and how doing that for days on end.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
But no, it's true, sounds so bad. Yeah. There was
one day where I was like ill all day and
I was like, am I just gonna be ill for
the next three months while I'm taking these pre needles?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Ali and I have a prediction that you're gonna have
an easy pregnancy from your lips to God's ears.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
But I I split up the dose. I like split
up the dogo yo yo, yeah yo, and yah. I
split up the dose. It was like I took eight
pills at once, and then I split it up into
five and three, and now it's much better.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Why not four and four?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Because there's you take there's like three, three and two,
six eight, So I do three and two. So I
take five and then I take the other three with lunch,
A lot.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Of math involved. I didn't think there would be.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, interesting, it's a lot of pills.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I got a real potent one potent potent like oh,
very like, yeah, potent. Got the good stuff, you know,
a lot of the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh oh, you're saying like the one you bought, yeah, prenatal. Yeah,
I thought even like just one of the supplements you
took was real strong.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
No, no, no, I'm just saying. The one that I'm
taking is podent. Gearing you up, gearing me up? You
know why not? I'm gonna do it, give it to me, Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Are you ready to jump into deer Vonno?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I guess I wish you would give me like a
little more like what would you like to hear? What
are you doing this weekend?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Uh? I don't you know. What's so nice is that
I don't have anything this weekend, and it feels amazing
because last weekend was Haley's birthday, and Haley's like my
birthday personally, I I don't need a lot on my
birth I am happy for people to achnowledge it. That
feels really nice. But I'm I don't need a lot

(04:50):
in terms of celebrating my birthday. I like to go
on a trip with my friends and that is so sufficient.
I don't need a lot of attention in that way.
Hailey loves her birthday. It is like the biggest day
of the year. So as her girlfriend, I feel like
a lot of uh pressure, well not pressure, but I'm like,
I want to make it GRAVI toss great for her.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I don't think gravitas works there.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
What is GRAVI toss?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Wait, yes, a heavy load.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I don't know if it's that. It's more just
like I want it to be great for her. And
so on her actual birthday, we did like I woke up, Oh,
I got all of her friends to write cards for her,
because that's her love language. Like one time in twenty twenty,
since no one could come be a part of the party, yeah, pandemic,
everyone sent her cards. I had everyone send her cards,

(05:40):
and she always references that that was like one of
her favorite birthdays, and so I thought, why not do
it again? So I had everyone bring her card, Tany
and Robbie, and I put them on balloons and she goes, wow,
I feel like this, this feels very Tawnya. And then
everyone was responding to my story about it. They're like,

(06:01):
this is so Tanya.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
He sent it to me too, He's like, this feels
very you coded.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Haley has a lot of Tanya things about her. So
I I know how to cater to Tanya, you know, yes,
And so I she thought they were all for me.
So at first I was like, that is very Tanya.
But I switched it up a little bit. Yeah, And
so I did that for her and then made breakfast
and then we just went and got massages and then

(06:27):
I planned the park party, and so I was I
was like exhausted from now back.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Is like I gotta put my feet up this weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm like I need just nothing on the agenda.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, what do you have so many things? Oh? You
have next weekend. I'm going to do no nothing on
the agenda.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'll believe it when I see it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, We're going to San Diego this week and my
daughter is in the UCSD production of Footloose.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So house college life really adjusted.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, she's adjusted now. It was. It was rocky for
a while. The transition was rough, interesting, but now she's
in a better place. Her first roommate situation wasn't great.
Now she's in a better room made situation and she's
very She's found her people.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
She in a dorm.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, and she has.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
It happened around October, right, the transition to did No.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
It was more recent than that. Yeah, it took a while.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
How are her parents doing?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Her parents also had a hard time with transition.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes, and sister.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Sister was okay, it's all about me now. Sister likes
having the only focus in the house. Yes she does.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, there's something about the baby, the baby of the family,
which only the baby ever understands. Yeah, because it's either
kind of sad that they're the last one and they
don't have everyone around to celebrate everything, or they're like finally, No.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's also annoying because then like you're the only focus.
So then if you're not home at like eleven oh two,
you know what i mean, Like when there's other siblings involved,
it's kind of like can't really keep up.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's crazy thinking about you not being home at nine pm,
A little rebel. Back in the day, you were like
eating hot cheetos, sneaking.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Outside my door telling my dad I was sleeping at
Stacy Nelson's when really I was at Scott Thompson.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh, oh, my gosh, Stacy Nelson. But Scott Thompson, that's right,
where is he? I think he's married, sneaking around married,
not sneaking around.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
No kids. I think everyone grows up. Yeah, you know,
and my twenty year reunion is coming up?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Are you going? I think? So?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I don't know, I should I should?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I think I was talking to.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
One of my girlfriends from high school and she's like,
I don't know. It seems kind of weird. Why because like,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
They're never what you want to It's never role me
and Michelle, Right, it's not.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
They're always like so glorified on TV shows. Right.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
So ours is like in a bar in the middle
of nowhere in Wisconsin and people just come. There's no host,
there's no pictures on the wall, there's no nothing. And
I've never been to one, by the way. Always see
him on Facebook and I want to go to them.
It's not like this thing like, oh, I have no
use for that. I want to go, But it's always
a random summertime in Wisconsin. We're always working. I could
never make it.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like a celebrity in your home, like people know what
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
So No, I didn't think so. But I had lunch
with a guy a few months ago that I went
to high school with, and he knew my whole life.
He knew that I did Discover Millionaire show, he knew
that I did comedy sports, he knew this. He knew
that I worked for Rick D's and with see, I
was like, wow, that's that's interesting. Yeah, yeah good. I
either he just did his homework or maybe people know.

(09:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
No, I feel like he followed, followed your career.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
We'll see more. Because also I tend to put stuff
on Facebook that's going to make it seem like I'm
a bigger deal than I am. Oh, like me and
Jimmy Fallon, Like I personally did a picture that made
it not look like a post picture, like hey, we're
just buddies hanging out. Yeah you're like, oh my gosh,
Mark's friends with Jimmy Fallon. I'm not. But I want
the people that went to high school to think that,
oh wow, that's important to me for some reason. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
No, mine's like doing like they have like an Instagram page.
It's like dedicated to like our reunion class of five reunion,
like tagging me in it, and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I just had like forty people that I graduated with,
So I I really don't know how many have come
back for.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
The reminding the two hundred something my class was like my.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Graduated That's what I'm saying. You would see people and
be like, oh my gosh. Like I could just go
on Facebook and quickly see what everyone's up to that
I graduated with.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
And the people who are not on Facebook are also
the ones that don't go to the reunions, so it's
going to be the same people, right.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So I don't know. Mine's until thing. It's like the
weekend of Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh okay, you have time to think about it.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, the early bird ticket pricing is now.
Oh wow, I might hold off.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It seems like a bigger deal than my.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Into like one hundred bucks or something. It's not usually
in the summer, No, it's like Thanksgiving. I think it's
a Saturday, Saturday or.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Sunday Homecoming weekend, Homecoming weekend.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
We'll stay tuned to see if Tanya goes to a
reunion and think right now.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
And I was trying to decide if we should host
Thanksgiving this year. That's on my my.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
She skipped summer and we are into deep fall. Wow,
she's skip spring, skip summer and where.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And fall and we've skipped Dear Bondy. That's all the
time we have.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
We'll be right back with dear Vanya. All right, we

(11:28):
are back with the content you want.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Who knows what anybody wants, but this is anonymous. Hi,
I beca Tanya Mark and Easton. Oh my god, I
love you guys so much. I don't know if I'll
ever stop crying a Tanya and Robbie wedding content. And
I want about ten more episodes about it with Paulina
and Robbie, et cetera, et cetera. I have a modern
woman dating question. I'm twenty eight diving into dating with Hinge.
The ultimate goal is to find my life partner. I'm Tanya,

(11:55):
if you couldn't tell already, and I'm trying to figure
out how to do the casual thing, eggs and multiple
baskets thing. I'm going on date number three with a
guy who looks like he has potential and seems pretty
intentional and locked in to me. But do I and
how do I keep adding new guys into the mix
to have comparative reference points. I say this because after
my first date with this guy, I had another date

(12:16):
the next day, and it made it super clear to
me that this guy and I had more of a
natural dynamics, what made it easy to know who I
would pursue a second date with. But my concern is
if I get to date number four, date number five
with this guy and at some point I might feel
like it's weird to keep adding more people in. My
real worry is he lives not too far from me,
and I'm stressed that I'll be on another date a

(12:36):
lah mister Wilsher, and luck would have it, he'll see
me on another date with a guy when I just
mentioned I was having dinner with a friend, because side note,
what do you say it when you're trying to do
casual dating but you're pretty regularly texting one of the
people already about your dates. My worst nightmare will be
holding hands was some random dude and this guys somehow
seeing and feeling like I was stringing him along. But
at the same time, because I just dove into dating

(12:58):
for kind of the first time in my life, it
feels like going on multiple different dates will help me
assess just how legitimate I think a guy is or
if he's right for me.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Help.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I'm imagining this and Mark's voice and there it was
lots of love, a scrubber, and a super proud tanyah.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So this is funny because when I was going through
my text when you first met Robbie, there was a
we had done a whole conversation about you putting eggs
in multiple baskets, not putting all your eggs in one basket. Yeah,
and you told me after a certain amount of dates
with Robbie he had canceled any future dates that he

(13:38):
had on the apps.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, which was like two months later.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, okay, so but how many dates was that?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Uh? Uh? I could check my notes, but notes, Yeah,
I have notes every single date. I think our first
thirty dates are documented in my phone.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, what through thirty?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Right? Not bad?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And the only reason I stopped stopped. Was the pandemic hit,
and our dates were just like sitting at home.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
By the way, that combined with your dear future husband journal,
that is a book.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, you literally don't have to do anything. Put it,
put a little bow on it. True.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, I think you thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I'm not kidding. I think there's something.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
There, but I feel like I want to say it
was probably like six or seven dates in, maybe more
eight dates in that he stopped put the kebash on
other people that he was dating. There was really only
one other girl that he was dating, but he wasn't
dating her as much as he was dating me.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Here's my question to anonymous, how do you feel about
the idea of this guy going on dates with other
people and having multiple dates at the same time like
you're doing. That's an excellent question because if you don't care,
maybe this isn't your guy and maybe you should keep
dating other people. Because I think Tommy can say that

(14:57):
as soon as she met Robbie, she did not like
the idea of him going on any other date.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
My eggs were all in his basket after.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
She tried to take I remember she tried to date
them out.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, I tried to take one day right after meeting him,
and it was horrible and then what happened to her
and then after that, I uh, and he didn't want
to be exclusive. So I was like, Okay, fine, I'll
go date again. And I went out with another guy
and was like, no, I know.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
But what I'm saying is if anonymously, I think that
if you don't care about him going on dates, and
I think you should keep going on dates because I
don't think this is your guy, I agree.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
But if you care and any part of your body
is tingling when you're with him, there's no rule that
says you have to go out with other guys.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
I agree. I agree Beca's eggs were all in Haley's
basket after your first kiss. Yes, yeah, and like there's
nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
No, no, no, And to be honest, I had dated
and I didn't feel anything with anybody, So I think
the first time I felt a connection that's strong, I
was like, I don't want to go on dates. Here's
my eggs, and I'll take your eggs thinking very much,
and it was kind of a mutual decision. But I
think that if you're feeling like this guy stands out

(16:04):
and you aren't really needing to go on dates. You
don't have to. You don't have to put.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Your eggs in other baskets. No, don't let that be.
Don't be fooled by that. You don't have to have
your eggs in multiple assets. Honestly, the way back when
Haley started their relationship is like the dream to guess, like,
are my eggs in your basket? Are they in mine?
Like it was just like on from day one, I
sent like three months being like are we are we not?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
In the in the lesbian world, they call that you hauling.
And the thing that really like saved you. But the
thing that saved our relationship from moving like way too
fast because it emotionally was so fast, was the fact
that she left and went on tour and we were
like physically separate, which I think literally I think that's
the reason why we were able to like have get

(16:51):
to a healthy place in our relationship, because I think
it would have been so much really fast. I know,
I know it feels great, but it's really intense. You know,
it was already intense and she wasn't even here. I
can't imagine if she had been here and like we
would have just like moved in me and my two
sisters and Haley that's crazy no, But so my advice

(17:13):
is if if you don't want him going on other dates,
and you don't necessarily want to be going on dates,
I think you have a conversation like, hey are you
dating other people? Where are we at? If you don't
care about him going on other dates, I think you
continue dating until you find someone that you don't want
to think about them going on other dates.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think so too, unfortunately, and.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
If it's not this guy, it's going to be one
of the ones where your eggs.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Just around the river. Bad. I look once more?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
All right from Kayley Hi, I Begatania, Mark and Easton.
I'm a thirty three year old female and so in
love with my husband. In four years, we're such a
wonderful and happy stage in our lives. My question is
about having kids. I wanted to be a mom since
I was a little girl, and I always felt like
it was for me and I know my husband would
be the best dad. However, shortly after our wedding, my
brother and his wife had their first child, and to

(18:06):
be honest, watching them go through the experiences, my husband
and I completely terrified. Their daughter has a lot of
behavioral issues. Their pediatrician says it's normal. She throws tantrums
constantly daily, sometimes multiple times a day. She screams, hits, bites,
cries whenever she doesn't get away. She's not a good sleeper,
she needs constant attention. She cannot play independently. And originally
we thought it was the terrible twos and she'd grow

(18:28):
out of it, but she turned four in January and
she's still going strong. On top of all that, my
brother and his wife are getting divorced. The trouble started
right after they had her, and they've tried to work
through it in couple's therapy, but they're moving forward with
the divorce. Watching the whole thing go down has us
both scared to death. We've also but if your friends
recently start having kids, and one couple constantly expresses how
much they hate being parents and even say awful things

(18:50):
about their baby, Oh my god. When we think about
our life long term, we know we want to be parents,
but we're so scared of losing sleep, losing ourselves, losing
each other in the process. And if it's anything like
my brother's experience. I'm not sure my mental health can
survive it. So it's our fear of sign that we
shouldn't be having kids. Should we just have faith and
dive in and hope for the best. I'm so interested
in all of your perspectives as Tanya has, and she's

(19:10):
hoping to start her own baby journey soon. And I'm
a Becca through and through, so her advice always gheits home.
I'm also counting on you, Mark to bring the positivity
out of this one. I love you all. Thanks for
being that podcast besties.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Tonya just eyeing me through on the wide eyed the
whole time. Kayleie, I think you're going through something that
so many people go through, Like I think you have
an idea of what you want in your life, right.
You want to get married, you want to fall in love,
you want to find your person, and then you want
to create babies and have babies and be a mom

(19:46):
and be a parent. And then the thing is is
that I think when our parents were parents, like my
mom never complained about being mom. My mom never made
it seem hard or like a burden, and so I
didn't know of anything other than just like pure bliss,
enjoy being a mom.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Until social media, really.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Social media, and like being and also being an adult
and like having a reality of how much sacrifice and
like love goes into being a parent, and also hearing
like it is people say it's like the hardest thing
you do, but like you have never experienced the love
like that, And I think that. I think there's so
much beauty and getting to experience that. And I also

(20:28):
think we have a little more insight into the potential
of challenges that comes with being a parent more than
ever before. People talk about it, like way more openly
than ever. And you also, the thing is that you
don't know what you're gonna get when you become a parent.
And Mark's only well Toni's a stepparent, but Mark's the
only parent in here who has you know, navigated having kids.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
But I'm interested in when she said, I'm scared of
losing sleep, losing ourselves and losing each other in the process.
This is a wacky idea, but I feel like the
first three years is when it's like really intense. This
is what Robbie's you know, taught me, is like that's

(21:11):
when it's like the first few years when it's like
a baby baby. That's when you're really losing the sleep.
That's when you're really losing like the all of that stuff.
There are so many kids that are out there that
need to be fostered and adopted. If you guys know
that you want to have kids and you want to
have a family, but maybe you don't want to like
loose sleep, lose yourselves and lose a thing. What if
you foster to adopt a child that's like for and up, Well.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
That comes there's a lot of there's a lot that
comes with that too.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Emotionally, I know, I know, but she's saying she believes
it in her heart that she wants to be a parent,
but she's scared of these certain things that I feel
like come with like a baby baby. So maybe fostering
to adopt is the way. Well I think, I know,
there's a lot of idea.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's not nothing. I mean, having a baby, no matter
how you do, it is like the most beautiful I think,
like one of the most sacrificial, loving things you can do,
whether it's you have the child biologically or adopt or foster,
whatever the reason. But marg I guess the thing is you,
as a parent, you are going to lose sleep, like
that's inevitable.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think you're gonna lose all three of those to
some extent, not completely, but you are gonna lose sleep.
You are gonna lose yourselves, You're gonna lose each other
a little bit. But you're also bringing in such an
incredible joy into your lives, and that's okay. You're willing
to sacrifice some of that for the positives. You're only
focusing on the negatives in this email. There's nothing positive
in this email about having babies except that it was

(22:36):
your calling when you were a kid. But there is
so much positives. And I've talked on here before and extensively.
There's a Marken Easton show from years ago where we
talked about this a lot, the issues we had with
my daughter and her anxiety and how I was completely
ill equipped to deal with that, and how I am
not proud of how I dealt with that, and how
I'll never forgive myself or how I dealt with that.

(22:57):
But even with that stress and craziness that brought into
our lives, the joy of having her far outweighed any
of that. Like it's not even close. It's not even
a conversation maybe I wouldn't have to go through that,
but then she's not in our lives, Like that's not
even a thought. It's the most glorious thing. Being a

(23:17):
parent is incredible, and when you hold your child for
the first time, that's what you're going You're gonna be
flooded with and you're gonna know that you made the
right decision, and you know that it doesn't matter what
the future may hold. There might be behavioral issues or
anxiety or who knows what could happen, it's all worth
it in that moment and throughout it will all be
worth it from that moment on, and you'll know when

(23:39):
you hold her, you'll know this was worth it. And
I wouldn't change a thing, and I would die for
this child.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's what I hear consistently. And I also, I know
it's totally different, but I do think it's different when
it's your child, like when it's your choice. But no, fine,
I think it's different when it's it's yours. And you're
comparing your your brother in law brother.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Who her brother.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're comparing your brother's situation, and it sounds like they're
in the trenches, but I'm sure they wouldn't give up
her for anything, like they probably are, like she's crazy
and we're dealing with a lot of behavioral stuff, but
I we love her because she is theirs. And I
think that it's the same, like it's it's different, but
it's like I don't necessarily I love dogs, but like

(24:27):
what I do for Phoebe and how I love Phoebe
is so different than.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
How I love well, I love.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sonny, but like what I tolerate with Phoebe, I would
never tolerate with you know, she could be on the
rug And I'm like, can I love you? And if
another dog peace, I'm like, is your dog not pot
potty tray in your dog? But I think it's like
when when it's your child, like there's an innate love
that you have for them that that conquers all the challenges.

(24:55):
And it doesn't mean that it erases the challenges. I
just think that the love that's there conquers those And
I also think that in terms of your relationship, you
hear people it is hard to navigate those times in
your sleepless and you have this new baby that you're
caring for and you're tired, and your like patience is limited,

(25:16):
but making time for each other to make sure that
you stay connected and it might be a few hard years,
but you come back to each other, and I'm assume
that it makes you stronger when you come back to
each other.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I also just feel like though I think that I
think that normalizing the conversation of like, it's okay to
not have kids as well, for sure, totally, but I
think I do think there's.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
A lot of negativity around becoming a parent.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
No, but there's also a lot of negativity around people
who say they don't want to have kids.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
But she said she's always thought she would be.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, and I really maybe it's changed.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Totally, But I'm just saying I also feel there's a
lot of negativity around becoming a mom, and I don't.
I think that it should be also the positives should
be praise. And I also think, yeah, if you look
at all these things and you go, I don't want
it that bad, like being a mom isn't doesn't trump
these things that I'm scared of, then yeah, it's okay

(26:10):
to also not want to have kids. Like I've I've
navigated these feelings back and forth so much, especially the
past few years because Unfortunately, there is a time clock.
You know, the clock is ticking biologically, so annoying. But
I think that there's so much beauty in both decisions.
But I just want to I want to not have
kids based on the negative experiences that others are having.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
And also what I said is from a dad's perspective,
a mother child bond is that much more powerful. Yes,
So yeah, just you wait, none of these concerns you
have now will exist when you're holding your baby.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Wow, they might. Let mean, I've talked to some people
that you know, it's I think postpartum is gnarly.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, that's true. That's a whole other conversation.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
There's that's the thing. Like, I think that people are
finally talking about things postpartum, like anxiety and intrusive thoughts
and things that we never heard anyone talk about. So
I think there's I get the the hesitation around just
jumping into it now because there's it's important to think
about things. But it's also yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Are so gnarly.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Like when I think about myself and my luteal phase,
I'm like, that's just my luteal phase.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Wow, my wife had our oldest alley. Uh, without any drugs,
not intentionally.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
They gave her an epidural and it didn't take Uh.
There was a trainee on staff that night. Yeah, and
then they brought her into the delivery room without any thing,
so straight raw doctor. Damage was done down below in
the process. She had broken blood vessels all around each eye,

(28:05):
like she went through it. Sure, here I go. And
when she held Ali, the first thing she said to
me was it was all worth it. And it's been
eighteen years and she would say the exact same thing.
So yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
And people keep doing it. So you know that there's
the love erases the pain and the torture, like because
people go, I remember I've had I had a friend
who was like, I'll never do it again. The pregnancy
was horrible, the you know everything about it. Had another baby,
it's like your brain goes yep, Wow, this is the great.

(28:43):
There's something about it that people go back for more.
So there's a testament to that. And it's okay to
choose a different paths. I agree, whatever you choose, We're
rooting for you. It's beautiful. Life is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
It is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
It's all about how you make it. Yes, we have
an email from Anonymous and her sister in law is
making up lies. But we're going to get to that
when we come back. All right, Mark, this one stressful.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Anonymous ses Dear Easton, Becca, Tani, and Mark in no
particular order.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I love that the order has become a sensitive topic.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Day one Scrubbery here, thank you for bringing me so
much joy each week. I had the privilege of attending
the Live San Francisco show, and I hope you just
had to do it again. That was a good one.
I need your advice. I recently went on a group
vacation with several other couples that I don't know very
well from my husband's brother's birthday. Over the past year,
I've lost weight through pilates and running. My sister in
law repeatedly old people on the trip behind my back

(30:01):
that I'm on ozembic. One of the other women told
me what was being said and even defended me when
I wasn't there. I am not taking ozempic. I have
nothing against it, but whether or not I'm taking ozempic
is irrelevant. It is rude and appropriate for my sister
in law to spread that narrative. She doesn't know that
I'm aware of what she did, and I don't want
the person who told me to get dragged into the drama.
This is also not the first time she's made up

(30:22):
something about me behind my back. My husband is furious
and wants to address it, possibly by talking to his brother,
but I don't want this to create lasting damage in
their relationship. How would you handle this? Should I address
it directly with my sister in law? I hate confrontation.
Should I let my husband handle it? Or should I
just let it go?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I mean, I know what I would he just let
it go. I'd let it go, let it go, like
like you know what I say?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
What I go? Did someone tell you that I was
on a zimpic and then she'd be like what why?
And You'd be like, oh, someone on the party mentioned
that you that you said that I was on no ozempic.
I'm not. I'm not taking ozempic. That's what I'd say,
you know.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I just feel like nowadays we have so many tools
at our fingertips. You can go on your Instagram and
post a picture at your pilates class and say I'm
so grateful to pilates and running for helping me shed
the weight, no shade on ozembic or Manjaro. But like
I did this one nd per second. What I'm saying
is like, if there's been passive aggressive no, but like

(31:30):
who people might be not just the sister in law,
other people might be assuming that she's on ozempic. So
it's like, if you're upset about this narrative that's being spread,
it's probably not just coming from your sister in law,
because I think that society nowadays, if people lost, if people,
if someone loses a lot of weight, everyone's first thought
is to Zembic Manjaro, And so it's not you know,
it's set me whatever, trizipitide. And if that's not, then

(31:52):
we go be Manjaro all the things. And if that's
not the narrative that you want out there, then correct
the narrative yourself and take it into your own hands
and post a picture and say proud of this. I
did it without any medication, like whatever you want to say.
But you can control the narrative in your own way.
I think go into your sister in law personally. I
just wouldn't. I don't want to have confrontation with my
sister in law there's no point. She might just think

(32:13):
you're on it and like said in passing, I'm just
gonna go on on on her side and say she
probably wasn't doing it ill willed.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
She seems like she's done this before though a little.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I don't know. If she is bitchy and she is
like that, then confronting her is not going to help
the situation.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I'm I think the opposite because I think if you
if you ask direct a direct question, but you're not
accusatory towards her of just like, hey, did someone tell
you that I was on a zembic, Like I'm not
like I've done it all naturally, it just makes her
go like, oh I need to stop running my mouth.
And maybe not, but I just think if someone called
me out on that, I'd be.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Like, you would not do that. I think I would
as someone who does not like confrontation, you would not
do that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I've been getting better about my conversation.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sure, did the husband talk with his brother?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
No, because what are they gonna know?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, basic should be.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
She's good. I think she says anything to anyone, Hey, bro,
my wife's not ozimpic. Tell your wife stopped talking about my.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Wife and then he'd be like, okay, and then he'd probably.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Forgets Okay, I'll let her know tonight, bro Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
And then tonight comes and goes and he never says anything. No,
I forgot that.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Hey, did you know that Sherry's on ozimpic. That's what
I'm saying. I could get twisted. I think if you're
gonna if you want to say something, I think you
do it and and again you go at it and
not accusatory way, just like to let her know that
you know that she's running her mouth. Or you can
go Tanya's approach and just post and say, like your

(33:38):
own narrative, so grateful for all the pilates and running
and no ozimpic or semi glue tide or monjaro.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah no or no science, this is all natural, whatever
you want to say.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
The bottom line is you look great.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
The thing is. The thing is people are talking because
you're having results. Yeah, and you know how you're doing it.
And regardless of if they're regardless of how you did
or what you did, if you feel great about yourself,
that's the important thing that you need to focus on.
If your sister in law is someone who runs her
mouth don't let her run her mouth like, if she's

(34:12):
gonna be that way, let her be that way.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Let them, let them.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I love.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Take people as they are, take people as they are.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Having it, not bother you is pretty pretty good defense.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
IM just saying yeah, yeah, but also calling someone out
on there is a good Don't let people. Don't let
people talk about you without having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, do your favorite Do not look at the
next page because there's a quiz for you guys already.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Hear right, the auzy one. Yeah, yeah, I thought it.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm supposed to quiz you on these and you already
looked at it.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I didn't look at it, so you can quiz me.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
An Australian accent.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, I read. I read the prep When Sam said,
do you.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Want to do with this question in your Australian accent?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Uh, I don't think I would do it, all right,
I wouldn't either.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Good day, Becca, missus yadagar Mark and Easton. My name
is Sam and I want to congratulate Tony on a
recent nuptials. So thrilled for you. Like many others, I
love hearing the origin stories. So here is mine. I
found scrubbing enduring the longest loneliest Lockdown days, where Melbourne,
Australia had one hundred and twelve days straight of lockdown stay
at home orders due to the pandemic between Grayce and

(35:27):
Aatomy and the days of scrubbing in. Somehow I got by.
I stumbled across the pod and then listened to the
back catalog and was hooked listening to every episode from
then until now and have now begun re listening to
fill in between waiting for new episodes to drive. Wow. Sam,
that's great. My favorites are always the chit chat between Becca,
Tanya and Mark and Easton. You don't know it, but
you've all been there through some challenging days, the lockdown

(35:47):
COVID days, but from the end of a relationship, the
end of a teaching career, through mental burnout, relocating and
moving back in with my parents, and my forties to
start over again, through reinventions and reinvestments. I appreciate you
all alongside me through this crazy roller coaster life. I
love you all. Keep up the awesome work. Your authenticity, humor, softness,
friendship and laughter is so infectious. Finally, good Anya, You're

(36:07):
all a bunch of rippers, and I hope to hear
in the future episode that missus Yadegar has a bun
in the oven aka preggers. I thought we could play
a fun game called do you know this? Ostragon slang
love you all from Sam all the way from the
land down Under. So Tanya, you can't play this game?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah? I read them already, all.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Right, Becca? What is a barbie?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
No?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Okay, the skewer? What's a bob?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Is that a girl? Yes?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Very good?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
What's a motzi?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I think maybe just mazzi, mazzi, m o z z
i e mazzi, a car drag. It's short for something
something that's annoying. A no, slightly higher pitched.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Oh, mosquito?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yes? What about a Macca's McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
What about a Dunna? Am I doing a good Australian accent?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
What was that one?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I doubt it?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Can you do that for Mark Dunna Mark d u.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
N n y Dunny or Dunna. I would never have
guessed this in a million years.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Did you go to the Dunna.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
The dentist?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You should go to then before we go on our trip,
you should go to the Dunny the store shut the
mall toilet.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It's a long colge toilet.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Oh, he's such a bludger.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Losers, douchebag, cheeter.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
A spill it a spit the dummy Scottish.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Spit the dummy, spit the dummy. Yeah, someone spit the dummy.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Someone, well, someone fell someone No, drop the ball.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Robbie left his socks on the floor and Tinya split
the dummy.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh she freaked out, got upset. Yeah, let's go to
talk talk.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I've heard this next one fadcom fat income.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah it's okay, fadcum. It's not false, but it's bad. Incum,
it's not false, it's true. Yes, wow, really lead a horse.
But uh, criaky, crikey, crikey.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Shoot like dang, oh oh my, like, oh my god, crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Cricky dogs cheers, no, uh talks. Go you go to
the beach. Make sure you take your dogs.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Your towels, your bag. You're some suit YESU.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah that's nice, Sam, Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Sam. That was so fun. Great great work Tanya and Mark.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I've never been able to master us.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Really hard one.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's a really hard one.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
When I was there, we went there for a honeymoon,
by the way, so oh my gosh, wow, and I
had it down pretty good when we were there, but
it's gone now sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
You should return.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I should.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That's it. That's all. We're leaving, that's it.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
We got to go. We're gonna go down and it's
like British now goodbye.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Then.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, Australian almost sounds like a really thick Southern accent,
like there's a drawl or something to it that nar
I love Nor, I always say Nor. Haley always goes like,
I feel like you could have like that, you would
have a good Australian accident. I'm like, all I can
say is more yeah, And I don't even know if

(39:55):
I do that well, But that's all for now. We
hope you have a wonderful weekend, enjoy the spring weekend.
Yes mid April. We love you so much.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
By love you,
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