Tanya's RedStar Surprise

Tanya gives us all the details on her surprise birthday party! You won’t believe what Red Star did to keep it a secret! And Tanya has a shocking admission about where she sees their relationship going. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and I
Heart Radio and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast
Hello everybody, We're scrubbing in. Wow, lots has happened since
we were here last This last week has felt like
a year in the best way. You what it's Celsie,

(00:28):
isn't It's so bubbly And I just didn't want to
be disrespectful to you, Okay, um So anyways, Yeah, So
we had Mark's birthday, which was on Tuesday, and then
did you celebrate Saturday? What was the Saturday? We had
a party here at the house and it was just
absolutely perfect and I couldn't have asked for anything more.
It was wonderful. I did I Did I know that

(00:50):
you and Tanya were both cancers? That I know this? Yes? No, Mark,
I feel like it's a balance between you and I.
He's not like an well I don't know about men cancers,
but no, he's very cancery. Okay, we're very emotional. Yeah,
very Um well, I have to get back to something

(01:13):
else about you too. And then but then we had
Tanya's birthday which was on Sunday, but we celebrated on Saturday,
correct Because Red Star, who is still such a mystery
to us. All, I just like calling him Red Star
for continuity purposes at this point, you know what I mean,
can we just switch it to his name? It's like,
I know, weird and like he had shown up on

(01:35):
the Morning show on that in that Instagram post on
the what am I'm blinking on the morning show on air?
And what's the thing you do? That's small show that
you are part of, UM, and you all kind of
talked about like his name, and He's like, you can
call me whatever. So then when we were on the

(01:57):
way to his house for the surprise, like do I
call him his name Red Star? And so like conflicted.
Now I don't know, I kind of like red Star. Yeah,
I mean, I'm I'm into Red Star is like the
podcast name. Even though sometimes I say his full name
on accident. I don't know if it ever gets naturally shift.
But you know it's odd though, to hear Ryan call

(02:20):
him by his real name and not Socrates. I agree,
I agree, So for now we keep him as a
Red Star. So Red Star UM basically planned Tanya's whole
birthday party. Like so he was texting me my mom
was in town, so I was like very worthless and

(02:42):
this whole birthday planning because I was like he was
asking me questions and I would be the late getting
back and he's like, oh, I got it handled, like totally,
just like handled the whole thing. So Tanya, I mean,
I'll let you tell your half. But when she arrives,
she immediately goes to do help him with this, and
I was like, no, he literally did everything because I

(03:04):
was just like I was shocked at the attention to detail,
like the bar menu was. Then he named him like
rat on the Rocks, which is like, my my favorite
drink was to keel on the rocks, and then he
did like a Sonsia's strug or something and the modern Woman,
and then the menu was exactly what I like to eat,
like beat salad and fish and stuff, and the all

(03:26):
of everybody's place setting had little butterflies on them. And
one of my girlfriends, Jerome, he like had her make
this cake and it had like red starburst on it
and butterflies, and the balloons had a little butter but
it wasn't like an like an obnoxious amount of butterflies.
It was just subtle details, subtle details, and there was
like it was like it was just so above and

(03:50):
beyond that I thought for sure you played a part.
But then I realized he did every single thing, and
I was just like I started crying all over again. So,
you know, for years I've been Tanya's significant other when
it came to birthdays, because you know, as the best friend,
and it was, you know, my role, and so I

(04:12):
really had to kind of relinquish control because it ended
up being that, like my mom was in town, and
you know, I would have made it happen if I
needed to, but he just like fully handled it. It
was impressive. It was impressive and like, in like a
two week span, really organized, and like I got ahold

(04:33):
of people that I didn't even know. I was like,
how did you get ahold of her and like her
and them? And he was just like these are people
that you've mentioned and I just like DM them on
Instagram and like did it all yeah? No? He fully.
He was like texting me and be like, do you
have son SE's number? And I'm like I don't and
I don't even follow, like we don't follow each other
on Instagram. He's like, I'll figure it out. And there
were people that were like Sharon was like, yeah, he

(04:54):
added me on Facebook and then he messaged me and
he was just like he really if he needed some
gold stars he earned about The crazy thing was, I
guess because he basically told me, like at the beginning
of the weekend what I needed to pack for the weekend, right, Like,
he basically was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna take you
Saturday and Saturday night and we're gonna have some activities

(05:16):
during the day and then I'm gonna take you to
dinner on Saturday night. I was like, okay, And I
kind of was like annoying in the beginning and just
asking him a million questions trying to figure out like
what was going on, and he wasn't answering. I knew
one wasn't gonna crack him, so I eventually just kind
of said, you know what, I'm just gonna go with
it and started going with it. So in hindsight, now
all of the things like makes so much sense and
like I should have known, but I think I'm just

(05:38):
so oblivious to stuff. But the girl who plans, like
the girl who does all the decorations for when we
have barbecues of her name is Emily. She has She
actually used to work at iHeart. She um started her
own company during the pandemic because she was furloughed, and
so her name is Emily and we've used her a
bunch and so Red Star changed her name in his
phone to Emilio Parte. So I saw Sam texting and

(06:00):
Emilio but he was I was like, who's Amelia And
he was like, that's a client and I was like,
I didn't even think anything of it. But I was
like a smart move for him, a change, because if
I saw Emily, the name pop up on his like,
you're what are you planning? And you're you know what
I mean, backyard. So anyways, uh so he basically just
needed to get me out of his house the whole
day Saturday, and so he was gonna take me to

(06:23):
this butterfly farm that's an Encinitas, which is like a
good hour and a half away from where we are.
He didn't calculate in the traffic in l A because
once when he looked Saturday morning, it said three hours
and he was like, oh my god, like I'm not
doing that. So he's like, it's okay, I have a
plan B, which is like this Butterfly pavilion in downtown
Los Angeles. So we go to like our uh coffee

(06:46):
shop that's that we go to like every morning when
we're together. And he had gone the day before to
given like a candle to put in like a pastry
to like sing to me when we got there. Um,
but the candle didn't light and so like that was
like the or spail and then like the and so
new is the traffic. The butterfly farm was like another fail.
And then we show up to downtown to get to

(07:08):
this Butterfly pavilion and it's sold out. It's like completely
sold out. So it's all just like all these things
just keep failing. And I felt so bad because it
was really thoughtful and just like beautiful, and we had
a really nice lunch and I was like kind of drunk,
and I was just like in a good mood, so
I didn't even cares the thought that counted, you know,
like nothing was really going his way. So it's like,
we have to get ready at your place because dinner

(07:30):
is on your side of town. Think nothing of it really,
so come here. We get ready and then he's like, shoot,
I forgot your I really want to give your gift
before dinner, and I forgot it in like our in
your intentions burning or you're like you're burning thing, you're
burnington And I was like, oh, we can do the
burning when we get back from dinner. I was like,
I really don't want to stop it. I was so annoying,
Like at this point, I was getting annoyed. And he's like,

(07:52):
it's just your gift was in there and I really
want to give it to you before dinner. And I
was like fine. So I'm like, just I've been right
at this point. So we get in the car and
he and again he was asking me questions about like
his outfit. He was like, but do you really like this,
Like is this what you want me to be in
for your birthday? I was like I don't care. Whatever
makes you feel like it's all like adding up right.

(08:13):
So then we go to his house and we just
run out. I was thinking running out into the house
to get the gift. He's like, leave your person, leave everything,
and there was being for us. Let's just go grab it.
I walk in the house and like everybody's there. There's
not a caudancy, a single car and site like he
everybody popped out. I started like I freak out. I'm

(08:34):
like so happy, like my heart is just like exploding.
And then I walked into the backyard and I see
all the like detailed things, and I'm just like a mess.
Like I just literally was crying. I had to make
up everywhere. Everybody was like tiny of like go to
the bathroom, and I was like I can't because I
just kept crying. And like I've been. I've been crying
the whole day, even like him taking me to the
butterfly pavilion and like all of these little things. And

(08:56):
when he surprised me on the morning show, I was
like started bawling and it's this news, like why are
you crying? You see him every day, and I'm like
it's not him like showing up with balloons, it's this.
It's it's like for so many years. Because I really
sat with myself, remember, I wanted to like examine, like
why I'm being so Like why am I so much?
So I know I'm a cancer and we're emotional and
we cry a lot, but like I've been really particularly

(09:18):
emotional the last week, especially in regards to him. And
I feel like for so many years throughout my twenties.
I was going to like all these bachelorette parties and
weddings and like seeing it happen for all my friends.
And I would get on the plane and I would
come home by myself, and I would like cry and
I would pray, and I would just like ask for
like the meaning of like why you know, why it

(09:40):
hasn't happened for me? Is this gonna happen? I always
was hopeful for it, but it's like when it's actually happening,
and you get this like love that you've always wanted
in return, and it's like starting to feel more normal,
and like I feel like we're both in this really
good groove of our relationship and in such a good phase.
It's like almost like um, you don't feel like you
just or of it or like it's hard to accept

(10:02):
it when it's happening. And so it's like I just
get really overwhelmed with emotion and I started like crying. Well,
I mean what he did for you, Like I know
a lot of people who have been in relationships for
a long time and their significant others never gone to
that extreme to plan something like that, Like that was
just very like you said, he thought through every detail.

(10:23):
He gives this like beautiful speech when he's when we're
about to eat this beautiful toast, and he said something
along the lines of like this is all the love
that you give to everyone giving like being given back
to you, something along those lines, and it was just
like so true and beautiful and being in that space

(10:44):
with all the people that like mean the most to
you with such a reflection of the person you are
and everyone I was reading your Instagram comments on your post,
every single one was basically the same sentiment of like
you deserve this, like you have, you have waited for this,
and everything that's um is yours because you deserve it.
And I think you talked about so often the imposter

(11:06):
syndrome and even in that caption how it isn't just
like work related. That's why I feel like I feel
like I have imposter syndrome in my relationship. Like I
don't deserve it to be like this good right now?
You know what I I mean? Like it just don't. It's
like and he he was tanking, he was saying, He's like,
you don't have to thank me for this. He's like,
this is like you've done this for me, for your
friends tenfold and you know what I mean like that,
it's just it's it's really hard for me. But it

(11:28):
was just like and even like the detail like he
got I have some friends that like enjoy weed, so
he went and bought this, and yeah, he thought these
like made sure he went and got these like weed
drinks to have their for that. Like he was like
so specific about the people and my friends and really
took a lot of time and energy and it was
just like I couldn't even just like I can't. Yeah,

(11:51):
it was really special. Yeah it was fun. It was
like a really really fun night. And and we finally
played ping pong a red Star night and he whooped me,
but okay, I didn't put my butt. It was eight
one three games and then it was twenty like we
went to overtime was one, which that one really hurt.

(12:12):
But he's really good, I know. Honestly, I'm so happy
to have you to play with him, because it's so
annoying for me to play with him because he's just
so good and I'm horrible. That's not even fun. He's
really good, like he was I I honestly kind of
think he went a little bit easy on me. To
be honest, I was thinking because he was like, well,
I think the one that got really close he wasn't

(12:34):
because he realized like, oh I could take it, And
you know, like that was like our fourth game playing.
He had already beat me three times, but if I
had won that fourth one, that's the only one that
would matter to me. But like you know, when like
all your friends are kind of mingling and playing, like
we were playing, were playing prosecco pong and they're playing
ping pong and everybody was kind of mingling. And when
you see all your friends aren't really friends like coming together,

(12:56):
it just does something to your heart. I was on
cloud and like I literally was like drinking and party.
Like I was just going from zoom to the person
to person to person and just like so drunk. I
was so hungover it, but like it was the best night,
Like I didn't want to end everybody when they were
like leaving, I was like I kept hearing Tanya. I
would just hear her, like in the background of like

(13:17):
another conversation I was having been like yeah, I'll have
another rat on the rocks, and I was like, this
girl is drinking straight to Kiel on the Rocks and
that's probably the fifth time I've heard her as from that.
It's a good time. It was a good time. So
it was just really amazing, Like I'll never forget it. Yeah, Yeah,

(13:40):
that's great, that's what it's all about. Yeah. But then
I'm like I look back and I'm like, I should
have known all these. He was really like his phone
is always just out. Our phones are always out whenever
we're together. He was very handy with his phone, like
in terms of just like not showing it to me.
I was so scared to text him anything like she
probably changed your name in his phone, like Amelia. Parte

(14:02):
was just so funny. Part is a little close. I'd
be a little nervous about part there you only see
their first name when they're texting. Yeah, he would he
would call me and be like, hey, so this is
a plan. I just stepped away from Tony for a second,
and I'd be like, oh my gosh, I'm so I'm
like not even gonna text you. I barely could text
Tanya because I was so scared. That's the other thing

(14:24):
we had. We did a surprise party for one of
my other best friends the night before, so Friday night
We did a surprise party where like I went, you know,
balls the walls and then so I was just like
very thrown off, and everybody there was a really good liar,
Like everybody lied, and I was just like, what the heck? Yeah,
just really good liars. Yeah. It was so fun, great weekend.
The attention to detail was very truly like another level

(14:47):
because really the parking situation there wasn't anybody there that
he let everybody in through the side, made sure everybody
was in by six thirty, closed the gate before we
got there, and I was like, wow, this is just
it was all of us like wa for her to arrive,
and we were we got ready like five minutes too soon.
What you know, five minutes when you're waiting to surprise
someone feels like an hour and we're all like we

(15:09):
see a car pass everyone and it would be like
silent and then we'd start talking again. And then when
she pulled up, it was just like everyone and it
was quiet, and then she walked in and she like
it was this reaction and then like an immediate crumble
like I didn't have to do. It's like who do
you hug first? Like what do you do? Like I
was like, I don't know what to do with my hands.

(15:30):
Everyone was like, because the video I posted, I couldn't
hear it, but I didn't realize you were yelling, like
what the Oh yeah, yeah, I Everyone in the podcast
or in the scrubbing in Facebook group was like, when
you hear telling your cuss or say the F bomb.
I was like, well, she always does, I guess, but
you don't hear, right, because, like I thought, Brad was
in New York, so when I saw him, I was like,

(15:52):
what the Yeah, it was so good. It was really good. Um,
so yeah, that's a good time. I'm just like really
in love and just like crying every other day about it.
And you have, both of you and Red Star have
really worked on this relationship and put effort in like

(16:13):
time and energy into it to get to this point.
So I hope that you feel like very much deserving
and very much proud because you know, I mean, there
were challenges that were part of this relationship and y'all
chose to choose your love over it. I think what
we realize is like when we met, he wasn't in
the place to meet the person that he wanted to
like be with. Ultimately, you know, but he knew what

(16:38):
we had, our relationship in our connection was so special,
so he was kind of fighting all fighting through all
of those things. Um, but now he's in he's in
a different place and he is ready for all of that.
And so it's just like it definitely feels like a
new phase of our relationship. Like two point oh one,
raw when he was giving you, when he was giving
the toast, did you think he was going to propose?

(17:00):
Everyone was like, Tanya looks like she thinks he's going
to propose. I'm like, surely not, surely not. But it
was a really beautiful speech. Yeah. So, well, you know
that Mark is the one who reached out to him
to be on the morning show. I know, and I'm
so glad you did. Like I was surprised he said yes,
but like that again, it's a big step. Well, I

(17:21):
noticed that your birthday was coming up, and then I
saw it was gonna be a weekend. But we always
try to surprise you with somebody on your birthday. We've
got traveled to Booth and Haley and your sister and
your parents and all kinds of different people, and and
it just occurred to me that well, I wonder if
he would do it, because we've kind of been talking
about the fact that it's maybe a possibility. So I
texted him and I said, I think this would be cool.
It's totally up to you whatever you want to do,

(17:43):
whenever you're comfortable with and he was totally down. So
we planned the whole thing and that was cool because
I had to text him when we started the show,
you know, or like, you know, when we he had
to know like, Okay, she got her I told him
before when he was outside the door, I texted him, Okay,
she's got her ear buds in so he can come
in the front door just in case you wouldn't hear
him because you got your buds and that sort of

(18:05):
thing when he can't. Yeah, So he and I were
texting throughout the show and he's like, okay, I'm downstairs
and like, okay, we're almost fair. I think we can
right outside the door. Okay, what do you have balloons?
But I'm gonna leave them outside because they're a loud
Like no, no no, no, no no, leave them outside. That's Keute
bringing the blood. Okay, fine, So yeah, I was shocked,
like again, so it's like that like really started my

(18:26):
weekend off, just like in tears, because I think that
was a really just a big moment, big stuff, you know,
something he's uncomfortable with, but he's doing because you know,
because of me. You know, it's like a compromise. I
think he enjoyed it. He texted me afterwards he seemed
really happy with how it went. I think so too,
And I think he also it also was like I
think sometimes this world can be really scary for people

(18:46):
that aren't in it and have never really had any experience.
It's very um bigger than it is. Does that make sense?
Like it seems a lot scarier and a lot of
the unknown. But I think once like he was here
and he had a converse station and like realized, oh,
this is not is big deal. I think if you see,

(19:09):
like if you happen to come across the post where
you see a lot of like negativity and stuff like that,
then you get in your head like the thought of
what it can be. Like I know I've had that,
you know, I have that all the time when I
post stuff where it's like could I get could this
be one of those things that's like a negative reaction.
If y'all are on TikTok you would know like how

(19:30):
ruthless people can be, but you don't get your information
from TikTok. So um, but yeah, I thought it was
just he seemed very comfortable. He didn't seem like he
was just like down to do it for you, which
was cool. Yeah, um, Mark, I had no idea your
daughter could sing like that. Oh wow, yeah, thanks. Yeah,

(19:50):
and that video was the cutest thing a video he posted, Well,
I'll let you tell the story, Mark. Well, yeah, and
it's on the scrubbing and Facebook group and a lot
of you have seen it in you haven't, you can
check it out on there. But it was my wife's idea.
In fact, so my my daughter knows this theater camp
every summer and this year they're doing a Little Mermaid
and my wife as soon as they announced that they
were doing Little Mermaid, my wife thought, what if she

(20:12):
gets arial, if she does get to play Ariel, then
we can do a video where we go back and
forth between her singing part of that world now and
her singing part of that world when she was three
years old. She do you have that video? I said, yeah,
that video is right here. Okay, so we watched that
video like, yeah, that would be really great, but she's
gotta get cast as Arial. There's like all kinds of
things that need to happen. But sure enough, she got

(20:34):
cast as Ariel. And then as soon as she did
her show, I put those together and I've watched it
every day since and it's uh, it's I will never stop.
I don't think. So. Yeah, it's like her on stage
and she has a beautiful voice. It's very nice. She's fifteen. Yeah,
she's she's has a beautiful voice. But the next which
is like switches to an old video of her when

(20:55):
she was like three, singing and he edited together. Yeah,
it was really Yeah, it turned out exactly. It really
turned out actually better than I expected it too, And
I didn't really notice that at the end she kind
of winks at the camera. That was kind of I
had forgotten that far. So that was a perfect ending
for it. Yeah, it really turned out. Actually, did she
get her voice from you? I always say this, and

(21:17):
everyone in the family jokes about that and laughs at me,
but I say, yes, I was in every choir offered
at my high school. I just don't sing regularly, I
don't sing publicly, but yes, multiple times in the shower
in my car. It's a concert every single day. But
I don't know that anyone would be like, well, I

(21:38):
don't know. I think it's from me, but yeah, it
was really good. Um yeah, I'm trying to think what else.
I mean, it felt this weekend. This week felt like
a blur blur. I'm sure it did for you, but yeah,
I was like, oh, yeah, my mom wasn't Yeah, my
mom was in town, which was so much fun and

(22:00):
helped me with my house and just like it was
really a much needed trip. Like when she left, I
was devastated because that was her first time being out
here and like over four years, I think, because like
normally we always go back to the South to visit family,
and um, finally last time I was there and um,

(22:24):
may I just I was like, will you please come
out and just visit like my house and help me
with it because she has a real eye for like
design and stuff like that. And so she came out
and it was just fun to kind of show her
my life because she hears about it, but she like
her being a part of it was really fun. You
forget how like no matter what age you are, how

(22:47):
like how much you need your mom like I. She
I woke up every morning because I don't really drink
coffee unless I get it like ice or something. But
she makes her coffee every morning. So I bought a
coffee maker for her, and I woke up every morning
to like her rearranging furniture, drinking her coffee. So it
was cute. I had a lot of fun. That is fun. Oh,

(23:08):
I forgot to mention that Becca, like, uh, I posted
the video of the post its that you made in
my house. Uh, and everybody's like Becca. That was such
a Tanya move of Becca, like you know what it
really is? Like she really wanted to speak to my
love language. So yesterday we came. Last night, we came
and brought a red Star and I came to bring

(23:28):
all the flowers back to my apartment so that I
didn't have to do it Monday morning when I came
back to do the radio show. And so we were
bringing the flowers in and I noticed, Uh, these like
post it's on the thing I like my kitchen. It's
like a who's been in my house? Like this is
super weird, I said, I after something like after you

(23:49):
gave Mark your homework assignment on the podcast or whatever.
I thought about the thirty four reasons why I love you,
and so she wrote on these like post it and
posted them like all up, been down, like my my banister,
my penis banister staircase, and then like it led up
to my studio with like all these balloons like a son,
and there was thirty four reasons why she loves me,

(24:11):
and then like I think around reason twenty it said
I wish you were turning fifteen. My hand hurts, well,
I haven't written. I realized I haven't written anything in
a long time. And it was like and they weren't posted,
so I had to get tape because they weren't actually sticky,
so I had to get taped. Yeah, I put tape

(24:31):
on all of them. But my hand, my handwriting so ugly,
and it was like getting worse by the note, and
I was like, I have to finish, Like I'm halfway there.
I have a lot of things to say. I just
my hand is cramping up. But um, it's very cute
because it's very not a youth thing. Yeah, no it's not.
And I had my Alley wrote me and goes it

(24:54):
can't wait for my befre She was like Wow. She
sent me your story and goes, wow, this is impressive,
and I go, I was like, yeah, you know that's
it's Tanya's birthday and she was like, can't wait for mine?
And I was like, this is specific to Tanya, right.
It was like you literally spoke my love language, like
you like that isn't such a that's a really great
friend thing. It was very much not your thing. Yeah, well,

(25:18):
you know, I figured I didn't I I my gift
isn't here yet, so I wanted to do something that
was for you. I ordered her a gift, but it
told me it's shipped today. Don't need gifts, like I
don't need gifts or not because you need. I know.
It's very true that every everythingthing. Do you know what

(25:41):
happened though, is because I was It was like I
was shopping and like when when my mom was here,
we were like shopping and stuff, and I just like
I couldn't think of anything that was like, oh, Tanya
would need this or want this, And I was gonna
get her jewelry, but like everyone got her jewelry. ACT
wouldn't have even had a space to wear jewelry back.
And so I found something else that I think will

(26:03):
be a hit. It's a puppy notice. Si. Although you
have to say shout out to Danielle Jonas, I still
don't understand. I still don't know how she got Red
Stars address. But I got these beautiful flowers from Danielle
Jonas to Red I know he goes. They came Friday.

(26:23):
I had to hide them from you, like like that is.
I was asking everybody's like, how did she get this address?
I know that collection was just truly impeccable, insane, like beautiful,
a lot of I got a lot of butterflies. Yeah,
the butterfly was definitely naturally a theme for Like, I
found myself looking for anything butterfly and I'm like, what

(26:47):
significant butterflies? That's the only thing that's significant. Um. Well,
we have a very fine guest today and someone who
really is the definition of a modern woman. Well, Becca's right,
I'm actually really excited to talk to. Her name is
Rachel Rodgers, and she is the epitome of a modern woman.
She has this book that's called We Should All Be Millionaires,

(27:08):
And I don't know a ton of her story of
kind of how she got I mean, obviously she's insanely successful,
and I bet it's like a very long story of
how she got to where she is now from like birth.
But I'm hoping she can give us some like really
interesting and unique tidbits because you know, only ten percent
of the world's millionaires are women. It's crazy the millionaires

(27:31):
out there are men. Well yeah, but think about like
how far we've come as women, but we still have
so so much further to go. But and yet we're
not millionaires. No, but she basically wrote this book to
teach kind of empower women, like, hey, just just because
these stats look the way they do, doesn't mean that
you don't have all the tools to become successful, and

(27:52):
which I think is truly a modern, a modern woman message.
So we are going to take a break and then
we will be right back up with Rachel Rogers. All Right,

(28:16):
you guys, we are back, and we have, as I
said before, a very special guest scrubbing in today. Please
welcome Rachel Rogers. I just want to clap with y'all,
and I clap for yourself. I kind of want to
set you up because I do think our scrubbers also
say we don't set up our guests very well. Okay,
So I want to give some context. So you, I
guess you're like a multi hyphen in you'll are a

(28:38):
lot of things. But you did you wrote a book
that's called We Should All Be Millionaires, which is what
we want to really dive into. Um. Your intellectual property attorney,
your business coach, you're a mother. What else is on
your UM? I own a ranch, Um, somebody's wife, and
I'm not an I don't practice IP law anymore, but

(28:59):
I guess I still have those skills your journey, Yes,
exactly so. And the main thing, well, I have kids
and then i'm the CEO of Hello seven and those
those two things take up most of my time. So
I don't even know where to begin. Like so, I mean,
you're just listed a bunch of things that are very impressive.
Like where did you kind of take the turn of

(29:21):
your attorney and you wanted to switch gears? Yeah? Well, um,
I wanted to become a lawyer since I was eight
years old because I used to watch my mom would
watch courtroom dramas and I'd be like, yes, I want
to be that person advocating for the little person, you know,
and coming in and helping them. Uh. So I went
to law school, which I found to be a traumatizing experience. Honestly,

(29:45):
I was always a good student, but it was so hard.
Like three quarters the way through criminal lot in my
first semester, I still didn't know what like men's raea was.
There was like so much Latin that I was like,
what is happening? So it was a real challenge, um,
But then I overcome it. I wound up graduating with
good grades, but I really didn't like the vibe and
the culture of the legal industry. But I just started

(30:07):
to become a solo lawyer because I didn't really want
to take a job doing anything else. So you're like
your own your own firm essentially exactly. So I clerked
for a judge for a year and then went out
on my own. And my mother was horrified. She was like,
what happened to the six figure job I thought you
were getting. Isn't that what happens next? Not this whole solo,
scrappy solo lawyer thing. Can we not do that? Like? No, mom? Sorry?

(30:32):
So anyway, So I did that for seven years and
I was pretty successful at it. Built it too, almost
just shive seven figures and then you know, a lot
of my clients were women entrepreneurs running businesses, and they'd
be like, how are you making so much more money
than us? Like what are you doing? So I started
telling them for free, and then someone told me I
should probably charge for that advice. Then I switched and

(30:53):
started charging for the business strategy advice instead of the
legal And it was a transition, like it probably took
two years to like winding down my law practice and
wind up you know, my UM company, Hello seven. But
it was just like people asked me for it, and
I saw a real need. I think, honestly, the thing
that got me the most excited about it was that
all of the stats showed that, like, you know, so

(31:16):
many women entrepreneurs today, it's like sev still of women
entrepreneurs never make more than fifty dollars in total revenues.
So out of that you gotta pay yourself, you gotta
pay team, you gotta pay taxes, business expenses. It's not enough.
And I was like, yeah, we should all be millionaires instead.
I like that play better. Wait, so because I read
the staff that says only ten of the millionaires are women.

(31:40):
M hmmm, are you a millire? I am? I am badass. Yeah, Well,
here's what we really need, we really need to know.
It's like, what are some obviously, you know, the book
really goes into the details of but I think it's
like I think a lot. I'll just speak for myself.
I don't want to give a general like you know,
women whatever. But for me, it's like the drive is there,

(32:03):
the ambition is there, the creativity, the passion is there.
But I don't know with finances and like strategy and business,
I have no idea what I'm doing. Yeah, and so
here's what I would challenge. I would challenge you that
that's not true. I think you do know what you're doing,
and I think you probably should just be charging more
for it, you know. And I think we society wants

(32:25):
us to believe that we are not good with money,
as women in particular, and especially if you're a woman
of color, even more so. Um, that's the story that
we get. There are media messages that are sent to
women every day. Don't buy Latte's cut coupon, stop shopping
so much. Even the movies, right, like you know, like
Carrie from Sex to the City, right, like she's this

(32:45):
badass woman but couldn't afford to buy her apartment when
it went up for sale, right, and like, oh she
has a shoe purchasing problem. Right, Like that's the message
that's always given to us. But men get messages of
like there's always an image of a lion and it's
like risks invest, go for it, right, And the reality
is is risk is required to build wealth, especially if

(33:06):
you didn't grow up with it, like I didn't, Um,
so you know I didn't. Just to be clear, Sorry,
I don't know if that's sounded like. So you know,
we are getting these messages all day long that we're
not good with money, we don't know what we're doing
with money, and we believe them, right when the reality is,
learning how to manage money and learning how to make

(33:28):
money is just a skill that can be acquired, right,
just like men acquire it, women can acquire it too.
We're not inherently bad with money. In fact, stats show
that we are better investors, that we we build more
profitable companies when we are leading versus men running companies
of a similar size. Right, So like we actually, according
to statistics, are better at managing businesses and money and investing.

(33:53):
But the messages sent to us all the time and
also the laws, right, Like our grandmothers couldn't get a
credit card because it was legal, they had to have
a male cosigner. That's not that long ago, right, So
like it's relatively new for women to control their own money. Um,
and so we have to remember that, like that society
is actually set up for us as women to not
win financially, and so this book is really about how

(34:16):
do we do it anyway? How do we make sure
we win? And part of it is like the changing
the story. It starts with that. The first chapter of
the book is called million Dollars Story because it's about
we have to change the story in our heads that
we're not good with money or we don't know what
we're doing with money. Nonsense, we do know what we're doing.
We're actually really smart and we're strategic and we're capable,
and we create all these amazing brands all the like

(34:39):
I mean, look what you all have done with this podcast, right,
like very successful women, right, So like we just need
to charge accordingly, right and raise our prices. That's a
big part of it too. So I do find like
the there's like this aside from the media message and
like what we're told because even Tanya, before you came

(34:59):
on to it, is like, oh my gosh, only ten
of of millionaires or women. And I was like, well,
think about I mean, we've come so far, but like
we still have so much further to go of like
feeling the the empowerment to demand what we deserve. And
I was gonna say, like, starting out, do you find

(35:21):
that there's because you I feel like talking about money
and finances and how much you make is kind of
like still a taboo conversation like some you know, people
are scared ask and then people are kind of feel like,
well is that anyone else's business? But I think having
someone like you who has made it happen and to
be able to offer that advice is like a very

(35:44):
powerful tool. Yeah, representation, right, we need to see examples
and be like, oh this is available to me, right,
Like we need to see that visibly. And we're shamed.
We're like, we're we're shamed if we have two little money,
and then we're shamed if we have too much, right,
and we're not supposed to talk about Trust me, I
get hate mail all the time from people who are like,

(36:05):
stop talking about how rich you are and I'm like, no,
I will not. You know why, because the world needs
to know that this is possible. Like I grew up
my parents were in food stamps, and so if I
could do it right, it's available to so many of us.
And it's not even rocket science. It's just that we
have to believe it's possible. And then we have to
focus on our value and you know, and charge accordingly, right,

(36:29):
because I think so much we'd think like, oh, well,
I couldn't possibly charge that, or I'm not worth that,
or I can't ask for that raise, and it's like, yes,
you can, yes, and absolutely can. Trust me, some mediocre
white guy who does who's not as anywhere near as
accomplished as you is asking for that raise and getting it,
And so we need to start demanding it for ourselves.
And like I think we have to be really clear

(36:51):
on what our value is. We have to be really
clear on what we bring to the table, what our
skills are, and then and really learn how to sell ourselves,
like whether we're entrepreneurs or not, we need to be
entrepreneurial and how we approach our careers um and ask
for the money and really be able to make an
argument in a case as to why we are worth it, right, like,
of course you're not just asking money for money because

(37:11):
you can you can back it up, right, but we
may we can't. We have impostor syndrome because of the
laws that were in place, because of the media messages
that we're getting, Like there's a it's by design, right,
because of sexism. That's why we have imposter syndrome. And
so you know, we have to just start recognizing our
value um and asking for the sale and and really

(37:32):
turning towards our money. Like half of it is just
pay attention to your money, and pay attention to how
much you're being charged, and have conversations with people, well
how much are you charging for speaking gigs and how
much are you charging for these kinds of appearances. As
soon as we start talking each other and stearing that information,
guess what, everybody starts making more money because it gets
out in the open. You know, you know it's so
true because so I had I have a friend, we

(37:55):
have a friend who also does another female lad podcast,
and will never forget the day that she came to
me she said, I want to give you numbers of
what we are making on this podcast because I want
to be transparent and so that you know, so that
you can you know, you and Becca can really have
like a a better gauge of you know, what you
guys are making. I was like, that is so freaking
cool because we're basically the same thing. We're like, you know,

(38:15):
in air quotes competition. But she's giving me her information
so that I can stand up for myself and my
value and it's something that I think is So it's
been a battle for me because I struggle with imposter
syndrome too, and I'm very grateful because I love what
I do and so I always do things for free.
Like I'm just like, oh, yeah, they want to do
an extra phone call for this event that I'm doing. Sure,

(38:37):
And I remember, I remember our boss Amy was like, no,
I'm gonna get you paid for that call, like you
don't do things for free, and I was like that's awesome,
you know what I mean, Like that's another woman, like
helping another woman because I just like, yeah, it's fine,
it's gonna be an hour, like I don't care, and
she's like no, like you get paid for your time.
And I'm starting to kind of it's been a slow process.

(38:57):
But as I do it, it's starting, I'm starting to
feel a lot like more empowered by it. So my
question for you is, if let's say somebody's on a
job that's salary, so they you know, they clock in
at nine, they clock out at five, and this is
their salary for the year, how how do they become
a millionaire? They're like setting their salary. Is it important?
Do you think that everybody should have some sort of

(39:18):
business on their own, like on the side. Yeah, Well,
there's a couple of ways to do it. One I
just want to say, I love that. And one of
the things that you just pointed out about, like the
so called competing podcast that's giving you their numbers, is
that putting us in competition with one each with each
other for men's attention is how we are We are
kept small. It's how we're kept out of the financial conversation, right,

(39:40):
and how our value winds up going down because we're
wasting our time worrying about this fictitious competition instead of
getting this money and joining forces. You know. So I
think that's so important. And I think what you just
said to about that hour that you give away, I
bet you every woman and that's one of the things
that I asked women to do is actually a time
study in those books, and like we walk them through,

(40:01):
like do a time study, actually account for your time,
and when you do it, you're gonna find that you
are leaving money on the table. There are opportunities where
you could be asking for money or where you're just
giving away your time that that time could be going
towards money making opportunities. Right, So, like we have to
just really look at our time and see where are
we leaving money on the table, because all of us

(40:22):
do it. I'm sure I still have places today where
I'm leaving money on the table, you know. Um, So
I just want to address those two things. But to
answer your question, I think the way that someone in
a nine to five job can make more, but there's
a couple of ways. One they could ask for a raise, right,
and they need to understand like how does this business work?
And how do I add value to this business? How
do I reduce the stress that my boss might have?

(40:44):
How does me doing what I do and bringing what
I bring to the table. And it doesn't matter if
you're a waitress and administrative assistant or some fancier, higher
level job title, whatever, it doesn't matter. It's how am
I relief relieving stress for my boss and making the
case for like why that should be making more money, right,
because that's what matters. You have to tap into what

(41:04):
matters to the person who's making the decision and then
make a case for why you should make more really
understand how you help this company be more profitable, you know.
So that's one way that you could do it. Side
hustles is a huge piece for women entrepreneurs especially, So
many women entrepreneurs are starting starting side hustles. Like my
sister has a corporate job, but she sells real estate
on the side. Now she's also become a real estate investor,

(41:26):
and now she's like a landlord and has a couple
of rental properties, right, and so she's got these other
sources of income. So I think having a side hustle
is a great idea as well, where you could just
charge for consulting whatever you do in your day job.
You could be like, hey, I advise you on how
to do that for five an hour, right for example. Um,
so that's another way or you could become an entrepreneur

(41:47):
as well, become an investor, that's an option. So there's
a lot of different ways, but I think it starts
with really understanding your value and like how could I
max out what I want to make? And what I
actually encourage women to do is just create this million
dollar or vision, which is just sit down and say,
what are the things that I want that would make
a difference in my life, whether it's like for me,
it was like I wanted to pay for my mom's

(42:07):
rent was a big deal for me. I wanted to
send my kids to you know, extracurricular activities without stress.
You know. I wanted a nicer house for them, to
have a backyard or whatever, and to send them to
like really good schools. So like I did the math
on what is that lifestyle cost and figured that I
needed to make at the time of making like a
hundred thousand a year, and I wanted to make three
hundred thousand. And so then I started, once I had

(42:29):
that number in my head of like, okay, two hundred
thousand dollars more a year, it's like approximately twenty k
a month. What could I do to generate another twenty
k a month? And I just started brainstorming, and I
came with the ideas, you know, and then I started
trying some of those ideas, and over time, within three years,
no less than I think it was two years, I
was making three hundred thousand UM. So it's just like

(42:51):
we just have to look at our money, get focused
on and remember what it's buying us, whether that's charitable things,
political contributions, right our lifestyle as well. So if we
do the math on it and really get clear what
is that number, and then start brains Like if you
needed to come up with an extra ten k in
the next ten days, I'm sure you could write like
you'd come up with like okay, I could try this,

(43:13):
or I could reach out to that person that I've
worked with before and pitch them on whatever. Right, Like,
if we really needed to make some money, we could.
So it's just like starting to make that our regular
thinking instead of conserving it for emergency. It's proactive, proactive
versus reactive. Yes, exactly. I love what you said about
presenting a case of what you add to the company,

(43:35):
because this is like a couple of years ago. But
L M. Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, she kind of I
think there was this whole article about how she went
and asked for a raise and like she got it,
and she was like, and they the way they wrote
the article was that basically kind of people were like, well,
I'm gonna go and ask for a raise, and then
she I heard her own podcast and she was like,

(43:56):
that was not my intention for sharing that information. I
knew what the I was bringing in. I knew what
my value was on the show, and so I knew
going in that I could back up my request with
proof that I was important enough to be paid this amount.
And I think a lot of people misconstrued what that
they could just go in and ask for a raise

(44:17):
without being able to say, like, this is what I
had to the company. So I love that you said that,
because I love that you took your attorney skills and
you make cases more like you kind of have adjusted.
It's the same thought process, but to a point of being,
you know, an entrepreneur and how you maximize those skills. Absolutely,

(44:38):
there's an you know I talked about in the book,
a negotiation where I was on the side of the
person giving the raise. One of my women employees came
to me, or actually I was recruiting someone and the
initial salary I offered her, she doubled it. I wounded
up paying her twice as much as I was planning
on paying her, which I had no intentions that was
convinced that I could not afford. But she made such

(44:59):
a case of how she is gonna make my life
easier what she was going to take off my plate,
and I could do the math in my head and
be like, Okay, if she does all of that, then
I could go out and make more money and easily
justify this salary and just like getting those things off
my plate worth every penny, you know. Um, I just
gave a raise last week because I was like, oh
my god, I'm so delighted to like take these things
off my to do list and give it to this person.

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So I'm happy to pay them more for that additional responsibility,
you know. So I walk through exactly how to do it,
and I think we just need to get comfortable in
general asking for more, right, like just asking for more
in general, you know, like in whatever context we can
you know, um, and seeing if we can get it,
and really just taking that posture, because I think when

(45:42):
women do that, we're shamed for it and I'm like,
you can take your shame and and you put it
exactly because I don't care. I'm and here's the thing
that I really want women to understand is, like everyone
benefits when we make more money. The entire world benefits
when women make more money. And there are statistics, there's

(46:04):
all kinds of research that proves that women contribute to society.
Women take care of children, they start charitable ventures. We
give away to charity at like three times the rate
of men. We give away so much more of our
our money than men do who are making the same
amounts as us. Right, So, like society actually benefits when

(46:24):
women benefit. Right, when women are paid equally, When women
are paid more, all of society benefits. Our families benefit.
And you know we don't. We don't just spend the
money on shoes and makeup. But you know what, yes,
shoes in makeup, because I like shoes in makeup, and
there's nothing wrong with that, right, we should. We should
spend our money on our pleasure, and we can also

(46:45):
contribute in a greater way to society. So I think
sometimes we think, oh, it's selfish or I can't do that,
Yes you can, And you know what, you better because
that we need better representation in politics. Right. We need
to change this world, and the way we're gonna do
it is not with a bunch of men who are
making decisions for us. Is we have to get in
those seats. We have to have money to write checks
to the politicians who want to step in for those roles. Right.

(47:08):
So that's what's going to change the world as us
being like, yo, I'm going to write a check to
solve that problem. Right, So empowering is so true. I
remember when I was I just started using menstrul cups
and I was like doing a lot of research on
them because I was like, have I never heard of these?
I'm thirty four, thirty three years old and I've never
heard of the menstrul cup. And I've had my period
since i was fifteen, So I was like looking into it,
and I was reading a lot of articles about the

(47:30):
woman in particular who started this one specific one, and
she was saying how she kept going to like pitch
this menstrul cup. It was all men, and they were
just like, why do you need you? Guys have pads
and tampons. She was just like it took a lot
of convincing in a lot, you know what I mean,
because you're just pitching it to men who just they
just get it, but they don't like it's just like

(47:50):
they they don't have you know what I mean, they
don't have periods, so it's like they don't get it.
And so it is. It's like the more that we
are in these spaces and having these conversation asians and
opening these doors, the better for all of us exactly
because then you changed my life man, exactly. And imagine
how many other genius ideas like that are there to

(48:11):
benefit women, to to benefit queer people, to to benefit
black people, people of color, like all of these marginalized
people by society, Like they all have ideas for apps
and ways that we can improve our lives that are
not being funded. But if we're the ones sitting at
the table, we get it and we will write that check.
I actually just last week invested in my first like entrepreneur,

(48:34):
like invested in another other business for the first time. Um,
and of course it's a woman owned business and it's
a tech company, and I'm so excited that I could
like write a check and invest in her idea, you know,
and give advice as well. So it's like, when we
make money, we can take on those roles and contribute
in greater ways. I have friends like Rachel Carbo who
are like creating amazing nonprofit organizations that are serving thousands

(48:58):
of women, and I'm like, this is we have so
much ability to make change that we don't have to
wait for like male lawmakers to give us. We can
just decide today that we care and we're gonna do
something about it. Listen, you are a Tania. Basically when
we started this podcast, her whole thing was being a

(49:18):
modern woman and being someone who doesn't listen to basically
what society says and uses your strength and you we
always say like when people are the definition of a
modern woman. When I was like, got your book and
just reading your bio, I was like, this is basically
what we try to represent on the podcast. So I

(49:39):
just I'm like blown away. I can't wait to read
your book because I think even in in any any industry,
but I think asking for what you think you deserve
or what you deserve is such an intimidating process. You
worry about like losing your job or someone being like
I mean even hearing the word no. Like a lot
of people are like, what's the worst you can do
is you can hear no. Well, that's kind of discouraging sometimes.

(50:02):
So I think what you're doing and giving women the
power to create for themselves what men have been able
to create for themselves so easily, is like such an
amazing gift you've you've given to people, Well, thank you.
And and really I think what I'm doing is just
pointing out the power we already have. Right, we have

(50:23):
the power. We don't need to wait for somebody to
give it to us. And that's what the rallying cry
of this book is and why I get so fired
up talking about it, because I'm like, come on, people,
we could do that. Do you do you live in
l A. No, I live in um Greensboro, North Carolina
on a ranch. I was gonna say, dream like, do
you need more friends? Or I'm actually going to be

(50:47):
in l A at the end of the month. I'm
hosting a retreat there, so I will be there for
a couple of days. So yeah, I'm happy to get
drinks or something that'd be fun. Yeah, Because No, honestly,
like I feel very like invigorated, invigorated by you were saying,
I feel very bad. I feel very invigorated by you
because I think also sometimes again, like Bea says, let
you hear a lot of the nose, and you can

(51:08):
kind of get into a little bit of a slump
of things. And I feel like I kind of went
into a little slump of things, and I'm emerging from
my cocoon and I'm fired back up. I also just
like a birthday, so like it's a new year of living,
and I have this kind of like fire back in me,
and like now talking to you, like the fires like
coming out of me, and I just like I don't know,
I love. And what you're pointing out is how important

(51:29):
community is for us. Like women, we need to network,
we need to talk to each other, we need to
connect with each other. I think we're often taught like
we need a white male ally to open doors for us,
and I've had that happen, and I've also had white
men slam doors in my faces, right, So it's it's
it's it's I don't think that that's the way. I

(51:49):
think that there are huge, amazing networks of powerful women
and that we need to share our resources and create
opportunities for each other, speak each other's names, and rooms
full of opportunity, right, Like we actually can do it
amongst ourselves. Um So I think we just need to
network more and talk to each other. So there's this
girl that I was actually talking about earlier. Her name

(52:11):
is Emily. She was she worked for a company and
then she got for aload when the pandemic hit, and
she took it as an opportunity to start her own business.
Becau's like I always wanted to event planned, so she started,
you know, doing it, and she's doing fairly well, right,
But she needed a full time job because she wanted
health and benefits and all that stuff. She ended up
finding a full time job, which is like as an
executive assistant. And then on the side she still does this,

(52:32):
has this company, and I share her name all the
time to all my friends because I'm like, she hustles
so like I've never seen anybody hustle like that. Like
it's so it's so cool to see because she's so
passionate about it. She want that that's what she wants
in the long term. But she's like, I know, right now,
I have to keep a balance because this is my
main and I don't know, like I want to do

(52:53):
that with more people, do you, Like I want to
find more women like her and and hire her to
do all the things that I need to do, you
know what I mean, like and just kind of create
more of that network because you're so right, you know,
like we are. I don't know. If we need things
then we go on. I don't know, but you're right,
like we lean to the mail whatever, like order things
on Amazon, you know, like, yes, exactly, look for opportunities

(53:16):
to support women owned businesses, black businesses, like the organizations
that we want to support. And one of the things
that you pointed out with Emily is that not only
are you trying to create opportunity for her, but you're
seeing in her something that she maybe needs to hear
you say right to say, like you're such a hard worker,
Like I would totally trust you with my friends. I'm
going to tell folks about you, and just that alone

(53:38):
like empowers her and makes her feel like okay, like
we need to you know, speak what we see into
each other. Right, Sometimes we get bogged down by society,
like we're sprolling Instagram and seeing all kinds of messages,
and so we need each other to like lift each
other up and remind each other what we're capable of
and what our value is. Sometimes we don't see it

(53:58):
for ourselves. So if we have of amazing friends that
can see that in us and point that out, it
makes such a big difference. Yeah. And I also feel
like what you said about speaking each other's names and
rooms full of people even, like think about how how
good it feels when someone says like, oh, yeah, so
and so told me about you, or so and so
told me. Even that isn't a direct compliment, but it is.

(54:23):
It's an indirect compliment because there they know that you're
speaking and like speaking opportunity into their life, which I
think is a really cool thing. Sometimes not hearing it
directly from the person is a cool feeling because you're like, wow,
they're talking, They're talking about me to other people. Yeah,
I love that. Um. Can you tell everyone where they
can get your book? Yeah, so we should all be millionaires.

(54:47):
Is available at Target, Airport Bookstores, Amazon, all the places.
Check out independent bookstores too. Um and I also if
you go to Hello seven dot com slash book, you
can check out like different resources that we have related
to the book available on our site. Amazing And then
where else where? Can they follow you on Instagram, Twitter

(55:07):
or whatever you wherever you are social? Yeah, I tend
to hang out on Instagram. It's Rah Rogers e s
Q Rogers with a d um and if you want
to check out my Shenanigans on my horse ranch, it's
at the Rogers Ranch. Well is that an open ranch?
Can you visit? Do you have? Like? Yeah, we hope

(55:28):
to have visitors soon. We have horses and my kids
are taking riding lessons and we're hoping to have like
events and be able to host retreats and things in
the future. Um, but we're still kind of getting ready.
We just bought it last year in the middle of
a pandemic, as you do. Is just ranch, Yeah, just
a casual, little ranch purchase of two New Yorkers. My

(55:51):
husband's from Brooklyn, I'm from Queens. We don't know what
we're doing, but we are good. Thank you for taking
your and chat with us, and everyone go get your
copy of We should all be Millionaires so we can
all be millionaires, right exactly. Thank you so much for
having me. Bye bye, I'm gonna be a millionaire. Yes,

(56:16):
we are going to be millionaires. Yeah, and d M
and let me know when it happens. We should get
drinks when you're out here and then we can really
discuss our plan. Yes, I'll DM, y'all, I'll let you
if you're free, let me know perfect. By bye. Back

(56:50):
with another powerful woman, we have Lindsay Boyd here. She
is the co founder of The Laundress, which is a
premium collection of eco conscious laundry and home cleaning product.
Thank you for coming on, Lindsay. Thank you guys, thank
you for having me. Okay, I wanted to start out
with what does like for people? What does eco conscious

(57:11):
laundry and at home clean? What does that actually mean?
Does it mean clean products or what is it like
for what am I trying to say, like clean for
the environment? You're on the right track, Yeah, it's it's
um Well. The product collection came about sixteen years ago,
and this was before people really cared about what they

(57:32):
were doing their laundry with, right, So the collection was
designed specifically to remove dry cleaning from your life. So
not having those harsh chemicals, the things that are bad
for the environment, you know, ultimately bad for your skin
and really really harmful for your clothing, So all about
the laundre just started to be to be all about

(57:55):
preserving the things that you care about, you know, keeping
things in your life longer, not having to throw away
the pit stained T shirt, you know, especially when we're
spending more money on these shirts and and more money
on our denim and the everyday clothing that you have
to watch even that you don't even dry. Clean UM
so clean. It's kind of like you know, you said

(58:15):
clean because a lot of people are for clean beauty,
but you know we're clean clean in the house where
or in the house cleaning world. So all plant based UM,
highly concentrated so you don't need a lot of water,
and you can also use it for hand washing or
for the machine. And it's super versatile, so all machine types,

(58:38):
so all loads UM and all water types so like
cold water, UM, warm water, hot water, etcetera. And it's
more than just about it's it's more than just the
product though, it's about the method and really understanding how
to properly care for your things. Well, I was just
gonna say I so I was. I got the law

(59:00):
undress and it's the one for darks, which I've never
had a specific detergent that was for darks or like,
you know, I've like never had that luxury of having that,
and I used it and my clothes smelled so good.
I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. And

(59:20):
a lot of times when it's a fragrance or like
something that smells really good, my skin doesn't react to
well to it, you know. So it's always kind of
like I have to sacrifice the smell of the fragrance
of laundry detergent to have you know whatever clean clothes
and my skin to be okay. So I was really,
you know, I was a little bit nervous because sometimes
when it smells really good, my skin is like nope,

(59:42):
and it didn't do anything. Yeah, And a lot of
the a lot of the products where you have that
really heavy fragrance um, typically it's synthetic fragrances. And also
it's really comes down to the ingredients like petrochemicals and
and those will be skin irritant um. Also, you know,
there's allergies to two different fragrances depending on the levels

(01:00:06):
of what they're what's being used. And even with essential oils,
like it's not just you know, people think, oh, fragrance
is bad, but you know, central oils can be very
volatile and not great for you if you put it
on your skin. That's why you use coconut oil as
a barrier when you're using essential oils. I mean, if
you think logically, um that way. So what we do

(01:00:27):
is we have a nice blend of every of fragrance
essential oils, a lot no allergy, allergy free fragrances, and
there's not a lot um, whereas the traditional detergent market
has like that heavy, heavy scent that almost doesn't go away,
you can never wash it out, which is a designed

(01:00:48):
that you don't but that goes right like it's it's
really really nice because I did a whole I used
to use like just I didn't even think about it,
like I just buy whatever laundry soap was there forever.
And I was struggling chronic chronic U T E S.
And the I was asking a lot of our listeners
like what do I do, and a lot of people
the biggest thing was don't wash your underwear. I mean

(01:01:10):
basically it was don't wash your clothes with these laundry detergents,
but the underwear in particular, because there's so your your
vagina is very sensitive to these things irritant. Well, yeah,
your skin gets your skin gets irritated, especially when there's
you know, not to get too specific, but they're sweat involved, right.
So a lot of people, a lot of dermatologists will say,

(01:01:32):
you can have a reaction like by your braw area
or your you know, in a swimsuit. Like that's because
your your body chemistry and perspiration are mixing with either
what's on your skin you know, from lotions, to also
your detergent. So it's really important to be mindful and
just just that alone. So there are a lot of
things that we wanted to tackle. You know, something that

(01:01:55):
we that was right for caring for silk, caring for
will and cashmere without having to dry clean because um,
from our textile background, we knew it was really bad
for the fibers. It actually strips the natural oils and
makes our you know, we love Kashmir because of the
way it feels. Yeah, and you can tell like once
you dry clean, it kind of loses that luster, kind

(01:02:17):
of loses that original reason why we invest in it
and love the way it feels against our skin. Um.
Yet clients that say they they love getting into their
sheets at night because it smells so fresh and clean.
It's like it's it's a like a comfort thing almost,
you know, to have to have to use a really

(01:02:39):
nice detergent. Yeah, it really, it is a luxury. So
how do people get their hands on it? Okay? So
we well at the laundry dot Com are actually running
a promotion now for my birthday, and my birthday is
coming up. I'm Leo fiercely a Leo. My birthday July. Um,

(01:03:00):
so we're running a promotion now of percent off on
our site, which I would definitely take advantage of, um
because you want to load up on everything. But the
so seven to three, just to kind of nod to
my birthday, last year, I launched a scent um It's
really really beautiful. It's it's rose and geranium and jasmine

(01:03:21):
and it's finished off with like nice wood woody amber
notes as well. Um. So we have that in our detergent,
our fabric conditioner, and our candle that just came out.
So yeah, So definitely the laundry dot Com is is
the best place for you to be looking for for

(01:03:44):
your for stocking up your laundry room. Perfect you just said,
for a limited time, you can use the code Scrubbing
to get off of their laundry solutions and you can
experience their noticeably amazing results for yourself. Yeah, thank you
for coming on and kind of talking us, because I
think that's a topic. A lot of people don't realize
the importance of what laundry detergent you're using for your

(01:04:07):
your products, your skin. I mean, I think a lot
of people smell something that smells good and use it
without even realizing what they're exposing themselves too. So I did. Yeah,
it's like it's life changing because it makes the chore
of laundry a lot better. You know, it's not even

(01:04:28):
a chore. You actually enjoy it. It's easy. They're all
really easy to use. So well, yeah, thank you for
coming on, and I hope you have a very happy birthday. Birthday.
Thank you, Thank you ladies. All right, violency, thank you,
by thank you. Well, the Laundress is celebrating Lindsay's birthday,

(01:04:50):
as we talked about, with a gift for you. So
for a limited time, used Coat Scrubbing to get twenty
five percent off their laundry solutions and you can experience
their noticeably amazing results for yourself. Just go to the
laundress dot com and use code scrubbing off. Now, some
exclusions may apply. All right, So now we're gonna get

(01:05:12):
to Mark's fifty life lessons from fifty years of life.
I don't think he did fifty life lessons. I don't
don't really do any life lessons. But I thought what
we need because you love quotes so much, I thought
i'd give you like my favorite quotes of my fifty years.
That wasn't totally the assignment, I understand, but I'm fifty

(01:05:35):
things like can you imagine how boring that would be?
Like all right, number thirty three? Okay, so yeah, Britany
as I did thirty four, and I actually did. I
said things that you've taught me. That's what I started like,
And then I got to like fifteen, and I was like,
I'm moving on to things I love about you. It's
a lot like So I respect your decision, Mark, and

(01:05:58):
I would love to hear the quotes. Antonia loves quotes.
I still love quotes. I'm interested to hear what by Yeah,
these are the These are a lot of quotes that
I use with my daughter's alway number one. No, let's
start with number five. I don't know if there are
in any particular order. Pick your least favorite and say

(01:06:20):
that one. For whatever, I'll just give you these. So
this one I got. I got a bunch of action
on this on social media, people like this when I
said this on the show, and and it's funny if
you google this quote, it is attributed to me. But
I didn't make this up. And I don't know where
I got it, but I didn't make it up anyway.
Being brave and pretending to be brave are the same thing.

(01:06:42):
So that's something I tell my daughters quite a bit
because it can be hard. In fact, the people that
are brave firefighters, soldiers, whatnot, are often just pretending just
to get through it. Correct. Same thing, Uh, this one.
Rick dis used to tell me all the time when
I worked with him. You weren't worried so much about
what others think of you. If you realize how seldom

(01:07:03):
they do. Love that. Yeah, that's good because they're living
their lives. They're worried about themselves. They're not worried about
what you're wearing, what you're doing, what you're saying. They're
they got their own stuff going on the best time
to plant a tree it's twenty years ago. The second
best time is right now. M that one, That one is?

(01:07:26):
That one was great because you wouldn't believe how much
that comes up in conversation, because everyone regrets the things
they didn't do when they had the chance to do it. Well, yeah,
that would have been great if you've done that, But
you can't change that, So do it now. That's your
next best option. Yeah, it's all right, it's growing on me.
It's going to be number five for me. And I
didn't ask you to critique. This is not a Tanya,

(01:07:49):
What do you think about these? Nope, none of this
was that. It was this is whatever I mean, Thank
you very much. Um, I like this one. This one's
too toobody Eastern out here today because this is a
good one for him. Why else are we here if
not to live with unreasonable passion for things. Well, that's
Eastern in a nutshell, But it's me too. I'm not

(01:08:10):
as open about it as Eastern is, but it's me too.
My passion for the Milwaukee Brewers is insane and stupid,
but it's never gonna change. And for Bruce Springsteen and
for Saturday Night Live and for the Green Bay Packers,
and it's just it is what it is, and I'm
sorry it can be annoying for those around me and
the people I live with, but that's what it is.
My birthday gifts last week, every damn one of them

(01:08:31):
at a Brewer's logo on it, and I couldn't have
been happier. That's all I want, that's all I need.
I'm a simple man. Passions are important and necessary. Agree. Um,
when it's all finished, you will discover it was never random.
M I love that one. It's a weird one for me,
but I like it. And uh, and this one I've

(01:08:55):
used a lot with my kids. Everything will be okay
in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
That's very good because I think a lot of people,
you know, panic of like with anxiety of what's going
to happen, and sometimes bad things happen, but it's not

(01:09:16):
the end of the road. He has like storms, storms,
and they don't last forever. That's a storm and eventually
storm ends. Yes, you're going to get to a place
when it's going to be open, and it may not
seem like that's ever going to happen, but you will.
I have a lot of these. Um. I always tell
my kids, um uh, why why do you want to
blend in? You know, because their teenage well once about

(01:09:37):
to be a teenager, when is a teenager, and they
want to look like everybody else. Look, why do you
want to blend in? You were born to stand out.
I tell my kids that all the time. And I
can't remember. It wasn't the last thing you said, but
the one before it about your passions. Um. Somebody once
told me. They said, like, your passions aren't random. There
you're calling. Yes, I love that one, need too because
it's so true. It's so true, and I definitely had

(01:10:00):
that passion for radio growing up. Yeah, So I will
leave you with those. Those are all really, really great.
I love not disappointed about any of them. Thank you
that I asked. Thank you you didn't ask, but just
because Tanya was critiquing, I was just letting you know
that they were all really great. The tree one I
needed explaining and I got the explanation, and I'm going

(01:10:23):
to plant something today. Actually, never too late, that's the
message of that one. It's never too late. It's not
we learned today. It's not too late for you to
become a millionaire. So it's not like the best time
for you start investing was twenty years ago. We didn't
do that, So the second best time is right now.
It all ties in. The best time for me to
start investing was in hand sanitizer and toilet paper of

(01:10:46):
two thousand and nineteen. It's true, and I missed it
me too, So now I'm looking for the next big thing,
which is not sure. We'll keep you posting, okay, perfect, Um, well, folks,
that's all for today. That's all, folks. That's all folks.

(01:11:08):
Thanks for tuning in. We're actually doing a special bonus
episode tomorrow. Correct, so I, oh my god, that means
you're coming over. That's right, I'll be here. It's exciting.
We're excited. She has to come back to you. I
just realized that. Um. I love you all. Have a

(01:11:31):
great week now. We'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll talk
to you tomorrow, and uh yeah, thanks for listening as always,
love you. Bye.