The Ween Sock with Kristin Cavallari

Kristin Cavallari, the ULTIMATE moden woman, is with us in the O.R.!

When you’re in the spotlight AND you have kids… how do you even start to date?? Kristin shares her challenges and her set of rules when it comes to boyfriends and her family. 

Becca opens up about what would happen if 95P ever cheated on her.

And Tanya shares a revelation about “the ween sock”. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scrubbing In with beck Attilly and Tanya rad and I
Heart Radio and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast
Hello everybody, We're scrubbing in. It's Monday. It's like the
best Monday ever. We're actually recording the podcast in the morning.

(00:21):
We normally do the afternoon, but today we're doing a
morning morning show. Yeah, which I'm enjoying. I like this
because I'm like wrapped up, I'm ready, I'm I'm I'm
it's like post morning show. I have my full caffeine
in my body. I just Olivia Rodrigo dance party. So
I'm feeling good. Okay, So Olivia Rodrigo is just like

(00:41):
breaking records all over the place. She's releasing her album.
Do you feel like it's gonna meet our expectations or
do you feel like, how does it? Like? How can
it be consistently as good as the three songs she's
put out. I think it's going to exceed our expectations
because I'm not gonna lie. When I discovered and I
actually meant to text you because I saw it on

(01:03):
TikTok first, This theory, this um, the cheerleading outfit that
she wore in the music video the same Princess diorism
anymore and the boyfriend had the same initials and the
same name. Is her ex dude that all the stuff
is rumored to be about. And when I discovered that,
I literally was like, Olivia Rodrigo is the gift that

(01:23):
we don't deserve in this generation. Okay, So I have
a question for you. As a massive Taylor Swift fan,
do you feel like there's I mean, she's a huge
Taylor Swift fan, as we all are. Do you feel
like there's like she's like Taylor's led the way for
Olivia Rodrigo or do you think Olivia Rodrigo is going

(01:43):
in her own direction? Do you think there's some Well,
here's the thing. I mean, I think when you think
of Easter Eggs, you obviously think of Taylor Swift and
like she's pulling a Taylor Swift, which is fine, but
it's like Taylor Swift isn't the only person that can
do that, You know what I mean? Right, But I'm saying,
do you feel like it's all similar to similar? No?

(02:04):
Oh my god, she reminds me. The song reminds me
of Avril Levine, Like, oh no, it reminds me of Paramore.
It sounds just like it reminds me so much of
a Paramore song. I couldn't tell you the name, but
I hear she's a little more punky than Taylor. Okay,
so you think she's like doing her own thing, kind
of like having her own style of music and everything. Yeah,
but heard that the deep rooted Easter eggs, such as

(02:27):
the cheerleading outfit to match the Mandy Moore's boyfriend. I
mean that literally. I was like the emoji with the
with the thing coming out, Like my mind was blown.
I thought it was so good and just so well done,
and I was like, I want to do more of
those things. Like I don't have Easter eggs to lay
for anything in my life, but if I did, I

(02:49):
would do them like that. Yeah, I mean, she's she's
literally three for three even I do. I say, I
don't know if she wrote the songs for the High
School Musical series, but those songs hit two, I don't
I'm not familiar with those my library on TikTok, I
don't know. Ginger Chan talks about the the viral songs

(03:10):
on TikTok, but there was like some viral songs from
the musical series. I don't know very well. Anyways, I'm
really excited about her album and I can't wait to
hear if all the songs have been a little different.
Deja Vu took me to Cruel Summer, Taylors of Cruel Summer,
and this one took me to pair more Driver's License.

(03:32):
I don't know, kind of had a mix of some
other I mean, just the timing of the release of
that song couldn't have just hit me more like it
was just yeah, took you back to your dark TI yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, um,
something else significant happened and that was all of the well.

(03:52):
I follow Cording Cox and Jenni Frankiston on Instagram. Yeah, okay,
we need to talk about that. And then I also
have another thing that I want to talk about. Don't
not let me forget about it. What is the topic
of periods? Yeah, we know. The influx of messages I
got from scrubbers with the same name. Recommendation for me

(04:14):
is wild and so I did aime. Okay, so friends,
Oh I didn't even get there. So Corney Cox and
Dinnifer Anderson really like this, just really distracted by your nails.
I have my d I y new life in a second. Oh,

(04:35):
I have never seen there. I never hold on. You're
distracting me. I don't I don't have a manicured hand.
But dirt under the nails is paint. Tanya doesn't understand
the spray paint life. Anyways, Back to Friends. Back to Friends.

(04:57):
Um So, they released like a chilling emotional trailer of
the four of them walking away like the original series.
There's six of them. What did I say for some
Friends fan? You are six of them walking away like

(05:17):
they are in the original series promo or whatever, with
like acoustic version I'll be there for you the theme song. Yeah,
what is it going to be? I have so many
questions because I don't know if it's like I think
I'm imagining that it's going to be a reunion where

(05:39):
they kind of are all sitting on that couch and
just kind of talking about their lives after the show.
That's what I'm envisioning. I didn't think there's going to
be an actual scripted episode like picking up what we
left off, you know what I mean? Like, but I
gotta be honest with you. The news last week that
there's going to be celebrity guests really bummed me out.
Can I tell you that's exactly the same issue I had.

(06:00):
I saw the list of names, and at first I
was like, Oh, cute Wetherspoon, she was on the show.
That makes sense, yes, like the people who were apart,
like Christina Applegate was on the show. Who else is
on there? I didn't see that. It's like Lady Gaga,
bts Biberaber, like path Um. There's a laundry list of

(06:21):
names that are going to be guest appearances. And I
literally was like, friends, is the six of them is
all we need? Do you know what I mean? Like,
that's all we need. We don't need you to pull
out celebrities to get us to watch or be invested.
Like it feels very try hard to me and I
and I don't like that because us friends stands don't

(06:45):
need that, do you know what I mean? We don't
need that pull. We don't need your TikTok star to
to be a guest appearance on you know what I mean?
Like it just it just I don't like it. It
just strikes me as you know, HBO, Warner Brothers, corporate
dudes in a big boardroom saying where should good beats?
Thought of that thing. You don't get some younger viewers

(07:05):
in there. Let's get bib on there. You know, it
just seems like overthinking this. Anytime spent on Lady Gaga,
it's time not spent with the original six, which is
all we care about. But I'm with you. I think
if they brought some of the guest stars that are
like massive celebrities, like like you said, Ellen Pompeo was
even on their like things like that of like people
who kind of had like a small guests attend and

(07:27):
then had like a huge career after that, that would
be so cool. Yeah, but I don't what. It's a
long n there's a long list of them. Give it
to you. I have it here if you want to
give it, give it because the ts Lady Gaga, David Beckham,
Justin Bieber, James Gordon, Cindy Crawford, Karadel Aphane, Elliott Gould

(07:48):
makes sense, Mindy Kaling, Thomas Lennon, Christina Pickles, Tom Selleck. Okay, like, no,
no disrespect to those I like all those people individually.
They're all fine, fine, But I just want it with
my friends reunion. I want my friends songs, celebrity guests,
I just want the six of them on a couch
drinking some coffee, kicking back with a coke beer whatever.

(08:14):
Are you bummed that it's not like a new episode
like or would you prefer that to like them sitting
around reminiscing about the show? Um? Absolutely no, because I
would feel so uncomfortable to see them all all of
a sudden, like to like in the script, because it
was all like I mean, granted from the pilot it

(08:34):
was really good and the chemistry was there, but like,
they just built this thing that was so easy and
so quick, and I don't know if I want to
watch them force it or like try to bring it
back for one episode like that show like they can't. Yeah,
no they need to not, because I was thinking about it.

(08:54):
Two if they picked up where the series left off,
you know, like how they left with the twins and
the keys on the counter. But I don't want that.
I do want them just to kind of all older.
But I'm telling you the amount of laughter that that like.
So you know how I watched the show before I

(09:15):
to fall asleep too, and it was grays anotom me
for a while, and then it was the like dark
grays anotomy and I was just like, this is not
the way to fall asleep, so I switch over to Friends.
Sometimes I'll get to specific episodes where I I literally
am laughing so hard that I can't fall asleep, Like
I have to just switch the the episode, And sometimes

(09:37):
I fall asleep after Red Star And he's like, you
literally shake the bed like when you're watching Friends, Like
the bed actually shakes because you're laughing so hard. And
I'm like, what other show does that to me? None?
I don't know. You said ted Lasso, which, oh yeah,
different laughs, not shake the bed last Yeah, okay. The

(10:00):
The only thing that I can think of, though, is
I know you have your specific episodes that like you're
how you did with anywhere you just go back and
you laugh as hard every single time, which blows my mind.
There's this episode and I've watched it three times in
last week because it's so funny. But there's Joey's dating
this like little girl. She's like little, she's probably like

(10:22):
under five foot and she's very petite, and she does
this thing where it's like she's like, oh, you're so funny,
and she'll punch him or whatever. He weirds like layers
and layers anders. When he's with her, he's like talking
to her, He's holding his coffee. She's trying to punch

(10:47):
him literally like swings the coffee and it's like spilling everywhere.
It's the dumbest scene and it makes me cry every
time I see it because his face is so innocent.
He's just trying to like not get hit by her,
the coffee spilling everywhere. He's wearing all these sweaters. Oh,

(11:08):
it's so if you need any form of smile today,
just watch that. Mean, you can probably just google that scene.
I don't even really like Joey gets hit by petite
girl friend the one with the Oh it's so good, Like,
oh my gosh, wow that that was a hard laugh,

(11:29):
but only because of you laughing. Do you know what
I'm talking about? Where he's like, I know I've heard
the friends laughter, remember on the plane. Yeah, so embarrassed,
Like the moment, I don't know, I felt. I felt
like secondhand embarrassment as if it was me. I know,
And I don't know what to do because I like

(11:49):
red Stars A Signfeld guy. I know, I know he
loves That's okay, what's what you guys act like? That's
so terrible. It's just like a different type of person.
Uh oh boy, it seems to be like guys who
really love seinfeld I feel like, which correct me if
I'm wrong to tell the scrubbers. If you're Seinfeldt fan,

(12:11):
maybe try to convince me and Tanya why we see
I just I don't like the comparison of like, oh,
you like Friends, you should watch Seinfeldt And I'm like,
I've seen an episode or two and like, it's not
the laughter that shakes the bed. Didn't you compare ted
lassot of Friends when you were trying to sell it
to me? That's more comparable comparable? Tonya absolutely, signfelm. I

(12:33):
haven't even watched seinfeld Well give it a give it
a hand or given For the record, neither one of
you seen seinfeld So let's not be too judgment. Okay,
Well I've seen clips of it and I didn't like. Okay,
that's not a thing. That's not you can't judge and
ten season show on clips or even a few episodes.
The idea is you watch it and you get really
into the characters, just like you did the Friends, and

(12:55):
then it becomes funny because you know them so well.
It's the same thing, you know. You know. What I
also realized too is that in a relationship, one can
have one thing and one can have another, and it
can be cohesive in its own way. That's beautiful. I've
learned that too in my relationship. My God talk about
could not be more different and have different opinions on things,

(13:20):
and yet you can celebrate your differences in both love
friends though, because that could be, you know, that could
be tough, a deal breaker if you will, that could
be that would be tough. Um. So yeah, anyways, since
you got me so hot and bothered about my nails,
because I am such a freak about my nails and

(13:42):
always have them done. Have you ever seen me without
my nails done? Never? I've seen them look a little
like jank every time in the paints like oh yeah yeah,
or like one's missing. Whatever I have been. You wouldn't
believe like the effort I've put into this move of
like lifting and moving things and painting things like it's
not it's not even me. I'm a different person as

(14:04):
a homeowner. Anyways, my nails have like ripped off. They're
like there's spray paint on them. They're just looking like, um,
they look like I've done some hard labor. Yeah. And
I always say the way that you the way that
you live your nails is the way that you live
your life. That's right. That's me being That means that

(14:25):
I've been rough and tough and an independent woman. But
I will tell you the other day, Um, I had
the rest of my stuff moved from my old place,
which you know the soft move. I did a soft
move where like I moved everything I knew I was
for sure taking, and then I left stuff that I
needed to go through because it was all like a
last minute scheduled move. It's been, it's had its pros

(14:48):
and it's had its cons right. Um, So I had
the guys move like some things that I needed an
actual moving truck. So they came back and moved it.
And there was this one guy and he kept he
would like be carrying these poles and he was like thin,
you know, like I could lift them. They were fine,
and like nick my door, like somewhere in my old door,

(15:12):
you know, like stuff like that, just like carelessness because
I'm like I get that moving like the bulky stuff.
And ever, I had a really like narrow stairway so
I knew that would be tough, and I was just like,
I'll paint it whatever. He comes to my new house
and he's moving this like pergola canopy thing, same thing,
the polls. Nick's part of my new garage. And I

(15:35):
had had it that day with like everyone, and I
was like, and I hate I don't like confrontations. I
was like, did you Just because he goes, oh, like
it shot like he knew he did it. I had
to go inside and take deep breaths because I was like,
I'm about to absolutely lose it. It's not good. I'm

(15:57):
like in a very tense place right now. So I'm
just like, my nails are rough. I'm a little more,
you know, scared. She looks feisty today. Um, so I
supposed to hang out tonight and I'm scart. Can we
talk about where tonight? Why wouldn't we? I don't know,

(16:17):
because you didn't. You just said we're going to hang
out tonight, So I don't know. That's not top secret. Okay, okay.
So Pink has a documentary. The singer Pink has a
documentary coming out, and she has Yeah, the premieres tonight,
and I got invited and then Tania was we were
trying to plan the podcasting and she's like, oh, I'm
going to this thing for Pink on Monday, and I

(16:37):
was like me too. So I think it's gonna be me,
Tanya and Red Star nine. If I can't come, no, no,
just me third Wheel and a third Wheel a third
Wheel Eve at the Bowl. Yeah, I think it's gonna be.
I mean, I haven't been to anything that involved that

(17:00):
many people in a really long time, so I'm a
little like anxious to see how that feels, you know,
like going to the Holliwood Bowl. Even though everything is
going to be obviously it's outdoors and everything that they're
going to keep everybody distanced. Um, I'm interested to see
how I feel like me being in a group just
like that. Yeah, but I think it's so big it

(17:22):
it'll will be spaced out and stuff. Yeah. So we're
gonna pack a little picnic and yeah, Red Star is
going to pick up a bottle of wine for the
two of you, not for me. I'm not drinking this week,
you know, I'm just in game mode. Oh that's right,
that's right, Star. So you're going to be the d
D tonight. Yeah, I'm gonna be the d D and

(17:43):
what game is coming up the Billboard Music Awards, and
that's why I'm seeing the documentary because I'm going to
be interviewing Pink this weekend. So yeah, so I was like, yeah,
for sure, I'm gonna go to this. Although it starts
a little late for me and starts the eight pm,
it will make it on a Monday. Feels skills. I
don't love it. Yeah, feels feels late to start the movie.

(18:08):
But you know, I think you'll be home and in bed.
I think so too. I think we're going to plan
on that. Um. So, yeah, that's tonight, Okay, But I
want to talk about this girl. So last week I
was talking about my period and how I don't want
my period. I have my period, my period doesn't have me,

(18:29):
and I got inundated with messages from scrubbers all with
the same name of this woman who goes by the
name goes by the name. Her name is UM. I
think it's a Lisa Vitti, And every single scrubber that
messaged me gave me this woman's name because she does UM.

(18:52):
She basically that's her entire job, and she talks about
women's cycles and how my mind. So I started thing
too some podcasts that she's done. She was on one
of ours, she was on Intimate Knowledge, she was Did
you like her? I don't remember, So I have to

(19:13):
tell you. The craziness of it is that we are
basically men and women the way like women, the way
we live are. Okay, I don't even want to like
regurgitate her information because it's so good and I don't
know these technical terms, so I'm just gonna like Layman's
it is that the Layman's terminology. Um, we are on

(19:38):
a cycle. So basically there's like four cycles, and they
have names, and it's based on like when you're bleeding,
so there's like a bleeding, and then there's like a
non bleeding, and there's like a post bleeding, and they
all have specific names. And you're supposed to tailor your body,
like the way that you work out and the way
that you eat along the same as your cycle, because
your your metabolism speeds up when you're you know, on

(20:01):
your period, so you need to eat a little bit more,
you should eat a little less when you just finish
her like all of those things, and we basically do
everything the way that men do it because that's just
what you're told, like wake up early and grind and
work out and do the strength training and like whatever.
That's the way I've been doing it, you know, Like
I just kind of do the same thing every day,

(20:23):
and I should really be doing everything in conjunction with
my cycle, the way the things that I'm eating and all.
And that's like kind of like why I crave burgers
around my period because your body wants more. I am
just totally so happy. So first of all, thank you
guys for the recommendation, because I've only listened to podcasts
that she's been on and I'm already like freaking out.

(20:43):
I'm gonna read both of her books. I want to
have it on this podcast when I get a little
bit more understanding, because I do want to change my
diet and the way that I work out based on
my period cycle, like when I'm bleeding and when I'm
not bleeding and all of those things. So is it
it was she saying like it's good to your body
when it's craving, like for you to eat now, name

(21:04):
like that's what everybody says, Like everybody blames it. Everybody's
kind of we kind of blame. We just kind of
put blame on this thing, like our period, and it's
just our excuse to do whatever. But no, not to
give in, but that your body does crave certain things,
like you do need to eat more on your period,
but not like a pack of starburs, you know. Yeah,

(21:25):
but I feel like if you're craving a burger, what's
wrong with eating a burger? Wouldn't I don't know. I
need to get more into the weeds of it. I
need to get more into the nutritional weeds of it.
But the and basically she was saying, like you should
do more cardio during one of these phases versus like
less cardio and more strength, because you could be having

(21:46):
it could be giving you like the reverse effect. I
don't know. It was so wild, and I think I
can make I think if I figure it out, I
can crack the code and stop stop having my really
crampy day and my bleeding niagara falls day. Yeah. Maybe,
I don't know. I think so I've seen the light,

(22:06):
and I think I'm going to be a changed woman.
I sent Tania a video of this girl is like
a TikTok and she goes she goes. I just can't
wrap my mind around the fact that once a month,
like when we have periods, we just walk around we're
literally bleeding, and we just walk around as if everything

(22:26):
is totally fine and normal, like I'm fine, I'm just
you know, just bleeding. I and I was like we do.
We just act like it's just part of our you
know what I mean. It is, it is part of
our lives. But there's just I've never really really thought
that deep into it because it's what happens, and that's
what she was saying. She's like, we all have just

(22:48):
kind of come under this, Oh you're in your period
or oh you're p M S s NG or oh
you're done. It's like, no, those are actual reactions. Like
that's like your body is basically saying you're having a fever,
and you would treat yourself if your being a fever,
like you would take medicine or you would do something.
You know, you're supposed to feed a fever, Like that's
your body, Like not, you're not supposed to have painful periods.

(23:10):
Am I supposed to be a raging psycho? No, Like
that's a hormone and balance like that is like basically
your body having a fever and you should figure out
what's like causing that, and maybe I should do you
get rageful? No, I'm saying because of you. Those days
are like Homer Simpson over here. When have I ever

(23:31):
gone off on you because of my period? It's seldom,
like seriously, when it's happened. When like when you used
to lock the door when we lived in Brentwood, and
you'd lock the door so I couldn't come over. No,
I would lock the door because I go to sleep
at night, and then you would come over early enough
that I hadn't unlocked the door. No, that's not true,

(23:52):
because the door would be unlock it all the time,
except for when you were on those period days. It
was just mysterious locked not with you. Hey forgot about.
So my sisters they have a neighbor and she like
will come. She's like literally right next door to show,

(24:12):
like come and knock on their window or just like
walking the door, and I'm like, wow, that is so
reminiscent of the days Tanya and I lived right next
door to each other. The fact that we shared a
wall is so crazy to me. It's almost like you
know those things that you give your best friend and
you like tap it and then it like you got
those for us. Yeah, and it likes kind of like

(24:33):
it like blinks to your friend whenever, so you're you're
always together. It's like we had that. But it was
just a wall and I could just knock on it. No,
you would never do that. You just knocked on the
door until I answered. I could just touch the wall,
and I knew that I could feel your energy. He
wasn't home Mark. You took the words right out of

(24:57):
my excited and I'm gonna let you'll take the You
don't know if we're pretending that this is happening day
last week a last week. Yeah, we did it last
week because she had a press day where she was
doing all her press because she is um, what's the
word launching? No, not yes, but she is efficient, so

(25:19):
she like stacks her day where she's like, I'm gonna
do all my press from like eight am to eight
pm on one day and I respect it. Oh yeah,
she's just I had this moment after we interviewed her
where I was like, I remember so vividly my old
house watching like growing up, watching Laguna Beach and thinking

(25:40):
Kristen Like, I was just like, she's the cool girl,
Like she is the like she is the epitome of
what I imagined a California girl being like, and just
thought she was so cool and I had that moment
of being like, oh my god, like I just got
to hang out and chat with Kristen Cavalleriy, that was
really cool. Well, that's the nice thing of pre recording
as any of you, so we can tell people that

(26:01):
this is a really fun interview with the three of
you just hanging out. It's really doesn't feel like an
interview at all because she's just she is. She's just
super cool and super open and transparent, while at the
same time like she's so d gaff, which I love. Yeah,
I think that's something to do with her having been
in this spotlight since she was so young. And also efficient,

(26:24):
do you know that I that is a word that
I'm going to put on my vision board next year
because I am the opposite of efficient. I will be
working on a trending report and then I'll be making
some oatmeal, and then I'll be listening to a song,
and then I'll get an email and I'll answer the
email and like my brain. I just kind of I'm

(26:45):
always kind of doing multiple things, and I feel like
if I just focused and did things in blocks and
chunks of time, I could be way more efficient. And
I think that's how Kristen Cavalary is. I feel like
what you just named was efficient. You were doing a
lot of things at one time. But I think it
takes me too long to do all of those things,
where if I could just focus, I could get one
done at a time. Yeah, I have to stop myself.

(27:05):
I'll be in the middle of something and I'll get
distracted by an email or something and I'll go to
that and then they stop. Stop stop, finish what you're doing,
then deal with that. Yeah, I'm not good at that.
That's like all my life is, like I never have
long enough time to like focus on one thing. But
think about it, like if you just sat down and
like blocked out your day, I really think I could

(27:26):
do this. I'm gonna I want to feel like I'm
shocked that you don't achieving have to do lists, and
I feel like I'm organized in that way, but I don't.
I'm not efficient and I don't like that about myself.
All Right, Well, we're gonna get into that interview with Christon.
I'm like, what is the word I'm gonna say. I
kind of talked about her dating life a little bit.
So that's a little teaser for you and we'll be

(27:47):
right back with that. Okay, you guys, we have a
guest on here that I have been so excited to

(28:08):
have on the podcast. Please welcome to the O R.
Kristen Cavalery. Wow an introduction. Hi guys. I'm so happy
you're finally scrubbing in me too. I've been dying to
for a long time. I'm such fans of you. Guys
always say I know you so much, so I'm really

(28:30):
excited to be here. Um. I am just a huge
I feel like I just ingest everything that is Kristen.
So I'm wearing my Butterfly collection from your jewelry line.
I have the earrings and the ring on right now
as we speak. Um. I use you do. I use
your cookbook because I just love all of your recipes. Um.

(28:50):
I washed my hair with your new shampoo for blondes.
You know, like it's actually like I'm and we have
UM and now I'm about to use your beauty collection
because it really like it's a clean beauty supply, Yeah,

(29:11):
clean skincare. It's the We're launching with five core products
that I feel like everyone needs in their daily routine.
They're very much a part of my daily routine. Um,
And if you guys want, I can walk you through
them a little bit, or I can just kind of
tell you the overall idea behind it. What works for
you guys. Yeah, tell us about like, because there's five
products total that you'll launched with, So technically there's five

(29:33):
hero products you're starting with. Yeah, because these are the
base of anyone's daily routine and so a daily filming powder,
cleans are, a daily moisturizer. My favorite product is are
Pineapple Peptide nectar. This is vitamin C and peptides in one,
so it's hydrating, it's brightening, it's anti aging. We have
an I cream, we have a lip bomb, and then

(29:54):
in January of twenty two, we're going to follow it
up with some products are a little bit more fun,
very much a part the routine. Maybe not every day,
but things like a natural alternative to a retinals, some
stuff that I'm really excited about as well. The lip
bomb is very important because no I'm serious. So I
have a friend who um she she's she she models,

(30:15):
and so she's constantly kind of having like makeup and
things put on her. It's part of her job. So
every day she's getting makeup put on. And she um
recently had her like metals checked or something, and she
had some crazy amount of metals and the I guess
her doctor was saying, it's because of all the stuff
she puts on her lips. You don't realize if you're
not using clean products, you're constantly putting it on your
lips and you're you're ingesting it. Uh, it's it's so

(30:40):
it's crazy. About a year ago, it's when I started
to deep dive into this clean beauty world and what
does it mean and all of these things. And what
I found out was that you can actually also say
that you're a clean beauty brand and you're really kind
of not. There's all these different lists on the market
for what qualifies you to be clean. And so the
two most important things for me were to act really

(31:00):
be clean. You know, I wanted these products to be
safe enough that if my kids decided to rummage through
my my drawer in my bathroom and lathered it all
over their face. I would have peace of mind knowing
that it was okay, um and then um and then
they're also really effective. But what I learned too, is
that the products that I was using at the time
that were high end, you know, fairly clean, all of

(31:20):
these things that they add parabins, petroleum, you know, all
these things, they actually age us. So while we sit
here using these products thinking that we're doing a really
good thing, we're actually doing the opposite. So so they're
actually not effective really at all, which was really alarming
to me. So that was another reason why I wanted
to do uncommon beauty, to have natural skincare, because I

(31:41):
want to make sure the products I'm using are doing
what they're supposed to be doing. Yeah, that's that's some
information to take it. I'm like, I need to go
through everything I'm using and make sure it's not doing
the opposite of what I'm trying to accomplish. Right, No,
But I feel like the lifestyle that you live, just
like the way that you eat eat and the things
that you put like on your body and in your body,

(32:03):
like you're very aware and like that's the level I
strive to be at. You know, like I'm almost there,
Like I try really, like I I try to be
super clean and eat like you know, like no refined
things are processed, and I'm almost there, but like I
want to be Christian status. I love you well, I'll
be honest with you. The one area of my life

(32:24):
that I haven't fully transitioned over is makeup and hair products.
And I think anytime you enter this clean space, you
almost have to forget everything, you know, because an eyeliner,
for example, maybe won't smudge the same way because there
aren't those those filler ingredients, and so you have to
kind of wrap your head around. Okay, I know I'm
doing a good thing for my body, but maybe it's
a little bit different than I'm used to. So I

(32:45):
think it's a bit of an adjustment period. And I
just like makeup in hair, sometimes we just gotta do
what we gotta do. Yeah, that is true. Um, I
just like I feel like you have been busy since
we were watching you on Laguna Beach, Like I feel

(33:07):
like you've never stopped. True, like you're just consistently I mean,
it's really cool to see because a lot of people
who are in the reality TV space don't have that
longevity that you've had, and it's like you just continue
to like continue to do things and like launch products,
and then it's like I'm gonna do beauty, I'm gonna

(33:27):
do jewelry, I'm gonna do this. And it's like where
when do you kick up on the couch? And like,
I watch some trash TV kick up on the couch.
I mean, I think because my whole life I moved
around so much, I don't really know how to just
sit still and just relax. I have found that when
I actually do sit on the couch with my kids

(33:49):
to watch a TV show or something, then I get tired. However,
all of that being said, I think what I've learned
through the pandemic is to slow down and I've actually
really enjoyed being at my house and taking a day
to myself. Sometimes I think being the CEO and the
well the founder of Uncommon James, I have had this

(34:09):
guilt of like I need to be in the office
Monday through Friday, which I am there most days. But
now I've gone to a place of being like, you
know what if I want to stay home for a
day and I don't want to wake up at five
to work out. After I drop off my kids at school,
I can come home and work out and I can
stay in leggings all day. I do that more often now,
and I'm giving myself a little bit more grace and
that feels really nice. So I am learning how to

(34:31):
just chill out a little bit. I respect it because
and I'm actually like, I'm not even gonna ask you
this question because I think it's so annoying that women
get asked this question and men never get asked the
question of like how do you do it all? But
I feel like to like it's so it's irritates me.
I mean, a lot of women do a lot of
women do a lot more than what men are doing,

(34:53):
especially when they have kids. It's like superhuman, yeah, but
it is. It's like I try to wrap my head
around just kind of everything that you have going on
on top of your children and like on top of
making I feel like you always do you make yourself
a priority and like it's really cool to see. I
just feel like and I feel like I've told you
this so many times. I really like admire so many

(35:15):
things about you because not only your work work ethic
really strong, but I also think, you know, like you're
in the tabloids all the time over X Y Z,
and you have such a sense of humor about it,
like you can laugh about it and you can just
be like, this is ridiculous, and I know deep down
like it's gotta affect you, it's got to impact you,
but you also can kind of roll with it and

(35:36):
laugh at it. And I just think that that's the
coolest thing about you. Thank you. That's really sweet, I
will say. I mean, I've been in the tabloid world
since I was seventeen and before. I don't know that
it ever gets easier, and I don't I think the
biggest thing for me that drives me nuts is people
assuming they know what they're talking about. And I just
want to be like, you have no clue, no clue.

(35:59):
I want to shout it from the rooftops and so
but I I know I do have to keep a
sense of humor. I have to laugh about it. I
think it's important to have friends that you can vent
to about that stuff who also understand what you're going through.
But it's a real thing. And I actually think with
the reality shows, especially one's like Lucuna Beach the Hills.
UM not as much very cavalry, but there still is UM.

(36:22):
There's a level of stress that comes with those and
the level of stress for me is that I don't
care what anybody says. No reality show is one real
unless it's like Jersey Shore where there's cameras on seven,
but even then you can play a huge role, and
so I just there's no way you can tell a
full story when they're only filming with you for a

(36:42):
few hours a week. And so I think for me,
people thinking that they know everything about me and assuming
they know everything about a situation, that's the part that
drives me crazy. And I'm not gonna sit here every
day and go on social media and be like, Okay,
actually what happened was this? And that, Like it's just
not worth my time and energy. But it it it
never gets I don't know. I don't know how to
just completely let it roll off my shoulders all the time.

(37:05):
I think if you're someone who is has like empathy
and compassion at all, then I don't think accepting criticism
from strangers, especially when it's hate and people are trolls,
Like I don't think your brain if you're able to
empathize and have compassion for people, then you're you're like
not able to just ignore that because everyone's always like

(37:26):
ignore the haters whatever. But all those comments, Like if
there's tons of nice comments and two mean comments, I'm
thinking about the mean ones, you know, and true yeah,
and I'm almost like in a weird way, I don't
know if the word is relief, but because you've been
in this so long, like in my mind, I'm like,
it's something wrong with me that I can't just let

(37:48):
these rude people roll off my back, you know. But
I've kind of through therapy, I realized that because I
have like compassion for other people and I'm sensitive to
people's feelings, then when people or mean to me, I'm
always going to take it on and feel it way
more personally than I technically should. But um, I mean,
and it's so true what you said. Though. There can

(38:10):
be literally five comments going, I love you, You're amazing,
and then there's the one that's like, you know, whatever
it is, but that's mean, and we only we just
focus on that, and it's so bad for our mental health. Also,
what I've realized too, and this is what I'm going
to try to teach my kids is that what I've
learned over the years and through pick therapy probably as well,

(38:30):
and just you know what, whatever self help book is
that ultimately those negative comments aren't really about us necessarily,
It's more about that person. Because what I've realized as
I've grown into the woman that I am today and
I have actually I do feel the happiest and most
of the piece that I ever have is that when
you're you know, loving yourself and you're happy and you're

(38:50):
doing your thing, you're not even worried about what other
people are doing. It doesn't even cross my mind. And
because I don't you're doing your thing, I don't care.
It doesn't affect my life. And I'm not gonna sit
here and turn to tear you down because I feel
good about me. And so I think that's sort of
what I remind myself of when people are coming at me, like, Okay,
this isn't really about me, and I just have to
breathe through it and let it go. You know something else,

(39:13):
it's just gonna be like a you know, Kristen, I
love you talk. But another thing that I love about
you is that you are a public figure. You're just
super public. You're you know what I mean, Like you're
on TV and you people know you and they know
your life, but you've made this decision to keep your
children private. You know, like we know obviously you have children,
but we don't see their faces and they're around, you know,

(39:35):
I like, we can hear them, we can see them,
but we just don't see like you cover. You cover
their faces on social media, and I think that's so
cool of you, and also kind of just like, at
what point or when did you make that decision and
are you ever going to show them down the line? Well,
thank you. So we made the decision early on. I

(39:57):
actually showed a few pictures of Cam and my oldest
when he was a baby. I think maybe until he
has about six months or so, so there are a
couple images of him probably on my Instagram still. Um,
and then we decided, you know what, we actually want
to keep them private really for them, because we have
no idea what they're going to grow up and want
to do. They may want no part of a public life.
Maybe they hate social media. We don't know, and so

(40:20):
we want to just give them that opportunity to make
the choice themselves instead of robbing them of that um
and that that's really what it is. I mean, my
oldest he's eight going on eighteen. He wants thinks he
wants a channel and wants to do all h okay,
pump the brakes, buddy. But yeah, they will get they
will get to an age whatever that is. I don't

(40:40):
know yet when they're old enough to have a phone
and to be on social media, and if they want
to be, then by all means, you know, And then selfishly,
I'll be happy because I would love to share my
babies too. I would love to share how proud I
am of them and show how cute they are and
all of those things. But again, I just I want
them to have that decision for themselves. Yeah, I love that,

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and I have you know, I follow several people with
kids and that are kind of in the spotlight, and
it there's always that conversation surrounding like how do you
know what's too much to show, especially with a kid
who doesn't have you know, the voice to say like
I don't want to be on camera or I don't
want to be filmed. Like sometimes when I see my nephews,

(41:23):
my youngest nephew will be like no, you know, and
I'm like, okay, yeah, not today, not today, I know.
I mean, everyone's different, and you know, it's such a
weird time now to be raising kids with social media
and a lot of people I will already buy their
babies Instagram handle and like they're in diapers. I know,

(41:44):
I know, it's so is it really is? But hey,
you know, let's eat your own and I will watch. Yeah, totally,
It's like, yeah, do you I know. I It was
a recent article I read where you were talking about
dating life and that you're single and focusing on being

(42:05):
a mom and your kids, and I was thinking, how
does someone like how does someone like you who is
in this weird spotlight world for so long? How do
you even know? How do you date? Do you? Are
you on when you have date in the past? Are
you on dating apps? Your Instagram? Love? Do you really

(42:28):
love it? I love it. I love this question because hey,
here's the thing, like in the real world, Okay, you
could go on a date with someone you're like kind
of feeling them out, like I don't know if I
like them, like maybe I'll go out with him again,
and then it's like now I'm not in whatever, No,
one knows you told a couple of friends, that's great. Well,
if I go on one day with someone, all of

(42:48):
a sudden, he's my boyfriend, and the tabloids, it's like, well, no,
I don't even know what's happening with this situation yet.
Can I figure it out and I'll get back to
you feelings. So that can be tricky, and there are
ways to be a little bit more secretive about it.
I think I got a little lazy last fall and
I just was I was having just living right. It's like,

(43:11):
I also want to go out, and well, fine, that's
on me. I get it. But yeah, sometimes it is
a little like before everyone can just you know, everyone
jumps the gun and puts a label on something, and
it's like I went on a day like everyone calmed down.
I don't even know what's going to happen, So that
can be a little annoying. I'd say, yeah, I feel like,

(43:31):
you know, it's just I do you kind of look
at it through a different lens though, now, because obviously
I don't have kids. My boyfriend has kids, and I
feel like there's this different lens for me even dating
somebody that has kids than I ever have ever experienced before,
you know what I mean, Like I never I guess
I was too dating seriously, but it's just like on
a whole another level at this point. Yeah, like it's

(43:55):
gonna take the guy I marry next for me to
introduce them to my kids, Like my kids will not
meet anybody until I know, like this is the one
which I don't even want to happen for a long time.
I'm really enjoying me on my own and figuring out
like who I am again, and I do want a
date and I do want to have fun, you know.
I mean I got married young when met j when

(44:16):
I was twenty three, I had CAMD At twenty five,
I got married, and you know, it was just it
was a So I'm just I'm really enjoying where I'm
at right now and I'm having a good time. But
I am one hundred, one hundred percent single at the moment.
I mean, you knew what you were doing when you
post that photo with Stephen. Was that last year? When
was that? Everyone went it was crazy last year? I

(44:38):
think it was about a year ago. Yeah, you know, yeah,
of course, I mean sure, did I know that it
was gonna be a little bit of Frenzy. Yeah, I
didn't know to what degree. That's actually my highest liked
photo of all times, babies over anything. Yes, yeah, so
I didn't know that it would be to that level,
but yeah, I knew fans would be excited. And I

(44:59):
adored you and I love him. We had so much
fun in Laguna catching up, and so yeah, it was
it was fun. No, you need like top tier, like
you need like the topest tier man like you. I
swear no, just because like you, you don't need a
man like you don't need a man, but you want someone.
You want to do life with someone you know, and

(45:19):
so you need like upper echelon, like I said, some
guys my way. Wait, I was gonna say, because who
is your celebrity crush go growing up? Like who are
you like? That's the guy I want growing up? Okay, Well,
Leonardo DiCaprio of Core, I'm trying to think of us.

(45:41):
Remember Devin saw remember in Passper and he says, can
I keep you? Oh my god? That was like wait
was he wait? Wasn't he now? And then wasn't he now?
And then yeah, yes, wait there's this scene and now
and then where he goes there like they're skinny to
being in the in the lake and they go to
pick up He goes to pick up his clothes and um,

(46:02):
he's wearing like a little thing around himself. And he
goes to pick up his clothes and you can see
his balls And I used to pause. I used to
pause that scene and watch it over and over again
because his balls were just hanging down under trumpet. And
I was like, how old were we? Fourteen? Like how

(46:23):
pervy was I at fourteen? Like pausing it? You were
making out richardson that little nugget. No, all of a sudden,
all the views for now and then skyrocket like we
don't understan, where are all these views coming from? All

(46:44):
the residuals. They're like whoa, yeah, yeah, thinking okay, Well,
I was gonna say, I feel like you're the type
of girl like you could message your celebrity crush and
you could be like like, hey, you know if they're single,
obviously respectfully, hey, um like I you know something cool?

(47:05):
Because what you would say as a cool girl, Tanya
and I would not be the one. We won't try
to draft the message. But what I'm trying to say
is you could message him. He'd probably he'd obviously respond
in like two seconds, and then you'd be the type
that would like play it cool and then you'd like
kind of go smart forget to respond, and then he'd
be like, hey, like let's go get a drink or

(47:26):
something like. I just feel like you really have your
pick whenever your game. That's that's really good, you know what.
I don't know if I am a little traditional in
the sense where I would want the guy to the
first move, but I don't know, get a drink in

(47:46):
me and I might one spicy mark and she's she's
doing it. So yeah, but I with you like no
time because you're just like taking over the world, you know,
and let it come when it and let it come

(48:06):
when it comes, you know, like you can't hurry love.
You just have to wait. You just have to wait. Wait.
How are you when you got married or how old
are you when you started dating J? So young? I
don't realize that. So yeah, and then you know, I

(48:27):
got out. We filed over a year ago and then
it took me a minute, but then I did. I
dated somebody and it was great. He was a perfect
guy to date after J was really sweet, made me
feel really good. Um, But now I'm just kind of gona.
I just want to be by myself, and like you said,
when it's the time, it'll happen, I'm not going to

(48:49):
force it, and I just wanna. I've gone to a
place to where I just want to enjoy the journey,
Like life to me now is about the journey instead
of always trying to get to the next destination. And
I'm okay sitting in sadness or lonely at loneliness or
any of those feelings and and just experiencing it because
we all end up getting to the other side and
not that I'm lonely or sad right now. I have

(49:10):
my moments and the yeah, just yeah at moments. But
right now I'm feeling really good and it's kind of
nice not even having anyone to text. I don't I
don't want to be on my you know what I mean, Like,
I don't want any of that right now. I know
it's so funny because I think that's it's people like
I was single for so many years and everybody was
just like, how are you so happy being single? And

(49:30):
I'm like, because you never know, like when you're gonna
find that person, and I don't have that time to
like wake up on a Sunday and do whatever the
freak I want, you know what I mean? Like, you
don't you just do what ever you want all the time.
And I'm like, I just have you kind of have
to just enjoy the journey, because it really it comes
fast to like all of a sudden, you're just enjoying
yourself and single and not texting anyone, and then you

(49:53):
meet someone and it's like, Okay, I'll do it, I'll date. Yeah,
do you still but still happens? Do you still believe
in marriage? Like do you want to get married again? Yeah?
I mean I do. I definitely believe in marriage, and um,
yeah I think that I will eventually. But like I was, like,
the thought of getting married right now is like, oh
my god, it makes me cringe. But yes, I still

(50:15):
very much believe in it, and I do think that
I'll meet someone eventually. Yeah. It's just funny because I like,
I I think, I told you, I think I think.
I Actually, right after I met Red Star, I came
to one of your launches and I was talking about him,
and you know, he was newly divorced and with kids
and it's funny because when I met him, he was

(50:38):
just coming out of something and like you know me,
like I'm like all in, like ready to go, and
so it was like this kind of like we both
were just at this weird you know, just like totally
different stages of life, and so we both had to
kind of compromise and be patient with each other because
I was asking all of those questions like do you
believe in marriage? Like is that something that you want?

(50:59):
You know, all those things, and he was just like whoa,
Like we had my first one, yeah, and I'm like
that one, yeah, I don't like. So I'm gonna have
Charlie Pooth perform at my wedding. I wanted to play
the pianos. I'm walking on the like you know what
I mean. So I yeah, So I've had to take

(51:21):
a moment and just be like, you know what, it's
not about again, like the destination, Like it's all going
to come when it's supposed to. It's about like enjoying
the process, finding somebody that you know really matches you,
and that's like what's most important. So it's a good
I think it's a good you know what else too,
It's also it's said, there's no right path. Everyone's path

(51:42):
is different. You know, like maybe maybe what I'm going
through is not what I had envisioned when I was
you know whatever, fifteen sixteen. Right, it's my path, and
I'm okay with it. It's just part of my story.
Maybe you didn't think you were going to meet a
guy that had kids, but it's okay. And I think
that if once we can just kind of accept that
and embrace it, it almost it's it's just fun. It's

(52:02):
just we're along for the ride. It's the best way
to be and like, you know what, it's like, you're
the author of your own story. And I think everybody
likes to project like, oh this is gonna be so
hard and like blah blah blah blah. But you're like,
it's your life, so you can decide what you want
to do with it. And if you're like positive and
upbeat about it, like you can make it a positive
and upbeat experience. It doesn't have to be like, yeah,

(52:26):
it's very interesting. Yeah, it may have been the same
article I read that, whatether that the other thing I
read articles about you, um and you were saying how
you have never gotten botox or filler, and I was
just like, how does she How does her skin and

(52:48):
face look like that without any assistance? And I was
just like blown away, So like, what are the tips? Well,
my face moves a lot. I mean, that was one
thing I very cavalry that I noticed right away. It
was I was like, because you know, we're so used
to know one's face moving anymore, so they'd be the
first thing. I've got it. I'm like, oh my god,

(53:08):
you can really see all of my expressions. But I'm
okay with it, Like I have some you know, fine
lines and stuff. They don't bother me. And I've had
people tell me to get botox, and I'm like, why
do you care? They don't bother me, Why should they
bother you? But I know it's ridiculous, but I think,
you know, because I live such a healthy lifestyle, it

(53:29):
just doesn't they make. To be honest, botox and everything
makes me nervous because I don't think we know the
long term effects of it, and you're freezing your face,
and to me, our muscle, our faces a muscle, so
we need to work it out the same way we
would any other muscle. So I have this little home
device called the Pico toner and it's electric currents and
you can just you know, slap it on with pads

(53:49):
or it comes with these like electric gloves and you
can move it all over your face and it literally
works out your face. You can crank it up and
you're like, damn, that hurts, but like it's doing something,
And to me, that just makes more sense in my head.
And then also you couple that with you know, drinking
a ton of water, eating really well, and then using
really good clean products. They all work synergistically together. And

(54:11):
and I also think too, your mental health can play
a large role. When people say like you're glowing or whatever.
I think that comes from here and here from Yeah,
it's your happiness, it's you're it's your being comfortable in
your own skin, loving yourself. And as cliche as that is,
it's honestly the truth. So it's a combination of all
of those things. But listen, I'm thirty four. When I'm

(54:33):
fifty four, maybe I'll be singing a different tune. I
don't sure never get those but I don't know, not
the same number. But it's truely, I feel like you
don't put like you don't eat refined sugar really, and
I feel like that I don't. I don't. I don't
think there's like there's no I don't think there's a
scientific link. I mean, I'm no scientists, but I feel
like sugar is definitely no scientists here. But I think

(54:54):
sugar is what really messes with a lot of things.
And if you don't eat any refined sugar like that,
like I, I honestly think that plays a big role
in it. I need too, So I don't really eat
anything white, white flower, white salt, white sugar, unless of
course I'm going out to eat around on vacation. I'm human,
you know, But at home, I don't have any of
that stuff here, and I really do think that all

(55:15):
of that plays a large role. Well, I was in
the Taco Bell drive through racing to get here, so
maybe I can ease up on that graduating. You can
eat Taco Bell and look like you my hat talk
to you. I know, I can't. I just feel I

(55:37):
have been eating mildly healthier recently, Like I haven't had
a ton of fast food, and I just moved into
my new house and so I've just been like, you know,
it's like I got busy. I didn't have any of
my food in my new place. I was like, I'm
just gonna swing by Taco Bell. Yeah, there's also like
plenty of healthy options here, but that's neither here. That's
neither here nor there. I need a talk. Yeah, I'm jealous.

(56:01):
I missed Mexican pizza. Trust me, I used to go
to talk about all the time growing up. They got
rid of the Mexican pizzas. I heard, I heard, I
don't walk about it. Wait okay, And I just want
because everybody that's to me or like ultimate modern woman status,
I want you to kind of walk us through like
a day in your life, not like a day like today.
We're doing like tons of press just like a normal

(56:22):
like normal Yeah, okay, okay. So I typically wake up
between five fifteen and five thirty to work out. I
just work out at my house. And I know, I know,
trust me, I never thought a million years I would
be that girl. But once you have kids, everything changes
so that that hour in the morning is my piece
and quiet before my kids wake up. It's my time

(56:44):
to just get all my stress out and just it's
my me time. Then I come upstairs and I make
breakfast for the kids, I packed their lunches, I go
and get ready. I help my kids get ready. My
boys will get dressed on their own. Sailor, once in
a blue moon, will want me to pick out her outfit,
which I actually enjoy. And then I take the boys
to school, and then I take Sailor to preschool. Then

(57:05):
I go to the office, and then I leave around
to fifteen to go pick up Sailor. At two forty five,
we come home. We hang out for an hour or so.
The boys take the bus home and they get home
around four fifteen. I make dinner. We eat it like
five five fifteen. Every night we hang out, we do whatever, bath,
bedtime routine, boom, and then I usually have like an

(57:25):
hour put my kids about it eight I usually go
to about it like and so I have an hour
to do you know whatever, clean up my closet, if
I've closed everywhere, UM, you know, just do mindless stuff
like Instagram or whatever it is, um and then rinse
and repeat. I mean it's pretty pretty much the same.

(57:46):
But you know, the flip side is, so now I'm
going through a divorce. I have my kids every other week,
so we do week on, week off. So then I
have a week like this week. I get my kids
back tomorrow, but so this week, I you know, can
do press. And then I was at my friend since
house last night and he colored my hair and I
can go to dinners and it's freed up a little
bit more of my time. Or I can really focus

(58:06):
on myself and make myself a priority, do hot yoga
or whatever it is. It's gonna fuel me and make
me then the best mom that I can be when
I get my kids back. I was gonna say that
blonde is looking fresh. Thanks, it's very fresh. I was messaging.
It was messaging Christen because I used I got Fresh

(58:28):
highlights before uh Oscars, and I had Tawny. I just
gotten her. I just gotten your shampoo for the blondes,
and so I had Tonny wash my hair with the
Christmas shampoo and my hair was so blonde. The next
day I was like, look at us sending christ and
photos of was like, look out, blonde, your shampoo made me.
It looks so good. It looks so good. Thank you.

(58:51):
But that stuff is good and it smells dead too. Yeah.
I mean, what do you do at this point? Like
what's your next biz? This adventure like what haven't you
done that you still't want to do, you know what.
So I'm actually at a place now where i have
no plans to add anything else, and I'm really happy

(59:11):
about it. I have such a great balance right now
between work and life, and I'm just feeling really good
about everything. For so long, kind of how we were
talking about earlier, I was always so hung up on
the future and planning this and planning that, and now
I'm just kind of letting go. And you know, obviously
we're launching Uncommon Beauty today and that's huge, but I
between the jewelry and beauty, and you know, we have

(59:33):
some home products and some other stuff. But I'm good.
I think I wanted to take what we're doing and
just do them really well instead of spreading our ourselves too. Then, yeah,
does it all come like the uncommon It's it's uncomed
because it's uncommon beauty uncommon James. What's like the the
is all just uncommon? So uncommon James is reg Mama,

(59:56):
and then everything falls un I mean, really, we say,
I go to uncommon beauty dot Com for the skincare,
but it just takes you to uncommon James. Just the
beauty landing page. So and then we have little James,
but they all fall under the uncommon James Unbrella got it. Well,
I'm so happy for you. I feel like your your
best self right now. And it was so fun having

(01:00:18):
you on the pot. I felt like we just had
like girl chat for hello thirty five minutes. I know
I want to hang out a cover like, honestly, I'm
when can we hang do you ever? Like whenever you
come to l A. We're going to be in Nashville
in November. Oh yeah you are, Yeah, so let me

(01:00:38):
know and then let you know when I come out there. Okay, Yeah.
I love you guys. Thank you so much for having me.
Oh my gosh, you're the best. I'm going to continue
to wear all my uncommon thing, all my uncommon things,
and I keep using my my Christen's cookbook and now
I cannot wait to get my hands on uncommon beauty.

(01:00:58):
So you're the best. We love you. We I just
adore you same. I love you guys so much. Thank you,
bye bye. Alright you guys, I hope you enjoyed that.

(01:01:28):
It was so fun. I feel like the Hills Girl
or the girls from the Hills a good bees. They're
also like they feel like we're just hanging out with
a girlfriend because they're really open to talk about anything
and everything, Like I never really like I really like
Christen a lot, Like I think I always used to
think she was kind of a mean girl, like I
was always she was presented that way on the show. Yeah,
and she's not like that at all. Actually. No, Um, okay,

(01:01:51):
so I think we have an email. Mark's gonna get
right into that. Yes, this is Amy, and this is
directed primarial at you, Tanya, but I think the rest
of us can weigh in if need be. She says,
I started dating a guy about seven months ago who
was is going through a divorce from a tenure relationship.
They didn't have children together, but he was super close
with her daughter. The reason for the separation was because

(01:02:14):
she cheated on him multiple times. Over the course of
the past seven months, We've gone through a couple of
weeks spells of not talking because he decides he needs
to focus on himself and wrapping up the divorce and
selling their house and finding himself. He's always heavy on
the right Now. I just know in my heart that
this isn't a chapter that is or should be closed.
He's the man I've prayed for, other than the baggage

(01:02:36):
he currently has, Tanya, did you reach out to Red
Star eventually or just wait it out? I feel like
I need to eventually say something because his ego was
so bruised from all the cheating. I feel like I
need to show him consistency and authenticity. But I know
he needs space to find himself and heal, so I
don't know what to do. It's interesting because I feel

(01:02:59):
like you can't really and I guess the way I
approached everything with our breakup was I can't do anything
wrong as long as I'm doing authentically what feels right
to me. And so when we broke up, it didn't
feel like it was over. I was just like, this
is everything just felt right with him and so, but

(01:03:21):
I did realize he couldn't do it at that moment.
There was something else going on in his life that
I just needed to give him that space. So we
kind of kept talking for a while, and then I
realized that I can't move on if we still talk,
so I cut it off cold turkey, and he kept
reaching out uh and I wasn't responding for quite a while.

(01:03:43):
But at that same time, I was still praying for
him and like writing in my journal about him and
making my honey jar, you know, with intentions for him.
He didn't know any of this, obviously, but I was
still doing those things for him because I felt so
strongly about us in our relationship. And eventually, after a

(01:04:07):
couple reach outs, I responded and we started talking, and
that's kind of how that all went down. Um. And
then I did end up eventually telling him and like
that I was doing all of those things like praying
for him, and I like sent him a picture of
the thing that I put in the honey jar. And
I think that did like it kind of blew him

(01:04:28):
away because in his mind he thought I was fully
fully moved on over because I was so cold turkey,
like I was not responding to him. I didn't reach
out to him on his birthday. I was kind of brutal,
and that's just very not Tanya, you know, So in
his mind, I was like moved on and in love
with somebody else. Um. But so I think you can

(01:04:49):
show him all of that consistency, like that stuff that
you're like what she was saying is she wants to
pray for him and all those things. You can still
do those things, but I think giving somebody space and um,
letting them figure it out on their own, I think
is important. But at the end of the day too,
I just don't think if you do things that feel
good to you and and in your heart, you know,

(01:05:12):
feel good, that's the best thing. Because I think I
was doing a lot of things and Becca can also
way and that, like I was reading Why Men Love Bitches,
and I was doing things to kind of mess with
his mind, and and I didn't like that I did
those things because I felt like I needed to, you know,
because I was like, well, he didn't like the talk,
like he threw away the Tanya, So I need to

(01:05:32):
be this this bitch that they say that you know,
every guy wants. And that was not the answer at all. Yeah,
I don't really. I mean I've never been in this situation,
so it's hard to I mean, you know, it's like
such a specific situation. But I do think when someone
is going through something and they're hurting and trying to

(01:05:53):
heal from a past relationship or anything where they've been hurt,
I do think it's um it's like so important and
vital for you to give them that space because I
don't think that like without them being able to heal
and have that time, then they're not going to be
able to be what you need them to be, or
it's gonna come it's gonna come up eventually in your relationship,

(01:06:16):
which you then take care of it now when they're
like saying they need the space. But I mean, like
I said, I think it's a very specific thing that
I think your advices more than mine. So it is
it's like it's so tricky because it's it's something that
and I think I also came to the realization that

(01:06:38):
everybody has their projections and everyone's gonna give their opinions
and they're gonna say their things. But the end of
the day, every relationship, in every situation is so different,
and you kind of have to give yourself grace and
know that, Like your story is the way that you
that's how you write it, you know, like if you
don't want to close the door, Like I never closed
the door on him, but I started moving on, like

(01:06:59):
in terms of my life, Like I wasn't crying as
much like I was, you know what I mean, like
moving on in a different way. I don't mean moving
on in terms of like sleeping with somebody else or
moving on to somebody else, really moving on if you're
doing a honey jar for him, like that seems like
not moving on. I don't think there was. I mean,
I think I think there was the effort of moving on,
but I don't think you ever were like actually moving

(01:07:21):
into director, because you were still talking, like even when
you were cold turkey, like he was messaging you, and
it would kind of you go back to that place
of like even if you didn't respond to being like
oh like that's you know, it's hard, right, it's so yeah,
Like every time you would message me and I wouldn't respond,
which was so freaking hard, like literally so hard to do,

(01:07:42):
it would it would take me back to that place
and I'd be like, oh, well, like he's thinking about
me the same way I'm thinking about him, So what
are we doing? And you know what I mean. But again,
it was just I had to kind of give it
that time for him to kind of realize when he
needed to realize, you know, because I think at the
end of the day, you can't for someone to get

(01:08:02):
to a place where you are. And I will say,
like Tanya situation doesn't mean that that happens for everyone
where it ends up being a happy like reunion, you know,
like it's worked out and it was meant to be.
But sometimes you have to know like, Okay, this is
taking a while, and I like, what is my worth?

(01:08:24):
Like what is my what do I deserve out of
a relationship? And if you're not getting that, then I
think you let some things go sometimes. Yeah, And I
mean you kind of did that, like you kind of
had a moment of being like, Okay, this is hard
and I need to take a step back, and y'all
are just respectful of each other. Yeah, I think that's
the main thing. Yeah, just it's just like like essentially

(01:08:48):
it's free therapy here. You know. It's like we're like
dear Abbey. The isn't that what the old newspaper thing
was called, dear Abbey? It's still a thing. Oh, I
don't know it is. It's it's so interesting because like
and I said this from the beginning, when I met
Red Star, I felt like we were each other's karma

(01:09:11):
because I almost felt like and I don't mean to
say this to say that, I'm like, you know, this
angel of a girlfriend or whatever. But I don't think
that I am. But I think to him, I he
didn't think anybody like me existed, do you know what
I mean? And so it would and then vice versa.

(01:09:34):
I don't think anyone else would exist, but like in
terms of the way that I take care of him
and love him, and I think those were things that
he just was not never thought could actually be, you know,
And so it takes time, Like I know it sounds silly,
but it takes time for people to actually learn to

(01:09:54):
accept that in a way too. Yeah, I mean when
you are used to being needed a certain way, then
it takes a minute to adjust, like do I deserve
good like this? Yeah? I mean relationships are hard. I
don't think people really talk about, like I'm relationships are amazing.
Love is amazing, It's like it's really euphork. But relationships,

(01:10:19):
all of them are complicated. They take effort and like work,
and sometimes it's bliss and you don't even feel like
you're having to do anything, and then sometimes you're like
this is this is way harder sometimes in being single
and free. Yeah. And also I think that like for me,
going through breakups in my life have been paralyzing lee hard.

(01:10:41):
I could not imagine going through divorce, like the trauma
that that would do to me would really be an issue,
and so I think I had to kind of give
him a lot of grace in that sense of just
kind of you know, realizing. I think also too, not
so much on yourself, but all the people around you.

(01:11:03):
You know what I mean. When you have kids, you
don't you know, you think of them more than yourself,
and so it's pretty wild. I told the other day,
I said, if you ever like cheated or anything, I
wouldn't even I would do the worst thing that you
can do to someone, which is just like silence, Like
you would never hear from me again. Is that what
you would do? Yeah, I would just be like, don't

(01:11:24):
even Like if I clearly was not enough for you,
so like you go here a way, I would just
be I'd be sad, I'd be like heartbroken, but I
would be deadly silent. So I know. And it's almost
like when things like that, when you go through a
breakup and somebody cheats to me, that would be easier
in a sense because you're just like, yeah, there's a reason, yeah,

(01:11:48):
like I'm done, And when that's not the case, and
love is still there, and I think that makes it
harder because you're just like, what are we doing? That's
why I always, like with Janna and Mike, I always
just like really couldn't even I like really admire Jannah
because I just was like she really just tried and

(01:12:10):
tried and I could never get past it. Yeah, I
just I don't think I have. I don't think I
would be able to or like want to honestly, So
I wouldn't either, because to me, it's not so much
that I guess it's the lack of character. It's the
lack of character. I wouldn't There's no way I would
not want to hitch myself to wagon that had no character.

(01:12:31):
And I don't think I would be fair to to
the person like I think I would, just it would
constantly be a grudge. And if they were able to
change and like you know, really see what they did
and try to be better, I I don't feel like
I'd be able to give them the chance that they
would need to like be better. So that would be
the other part that I'm you know, self aware enough

(01:12:52):
to know that I would not be encouraging. No. Before
we move before we wrap up the episode, you would
talk about some of the Kristen cavalery that I looked into,
and we should clarify you did not see Devin SA's
balls in the movie Now and then, Who's balls? Did
I see? Whatever you saw was not his balls, because

(01:13:16):
he clarified in an interview a few years ago with
the news that they were wearing socks over, like special
sock things over their genitalia. They were not nude for
that sock over I saw. I saw sock queen. H okay,

(01:13:40):
close enough. You mus have been real horny for that.
To do it for me, she was like had her
Kevin richardson photo poster and she's like, oh my god,
Devin's all balls. Oh yeah, I would. We would pause
it and like slow mo that scene of him like
picking up his his whatever his clothes out of the lake,

(01:14:02):
and yeah, oh it's such Oh it's great. There's screenshots
on this article of that read so I know what
you're talking about. But yeah, that wasn't it. That was
some sort of cloth appendage that Mark when did the research,
He's like, I'm going to see if this is facts. Yeah,
we love a sock queen. I'll take a sock queen

(01:14:23):
at thirteen. Well, I'll never forget when I googled and
saw the first like male penis like a big one.
When did you see your first in real life? In
real life, Queen, I mean touched, touched? These are all

(01:14:44):
different questions. When let's start with the first when you googled?
Is that that when you saw your first one? You
googled it? I was, yeah, And I was actually pretty young,
I was. I didn't have my first kiss till I
was sixteen. I was like very like, right, that's like
an older age for nine. I think it was fourteen

(01:15:06):
when you're a freshman in high school, how older? Um? Yeah?
And and I was just very like, you know, I
grew up in a very like purity culture in the church,
so like anything related to sex was just like don't
tempt yourself, you know. Um. And so I googled. I

(01:15:26):
mean I got a phone when I was well, no,
I would I would have. I don't think I ever
would have done it all my parents like my family
computer though, So I feel like I was older, like
when I really saw like a grown man, like a
photo of a grown man's queen. Yeah, Queen, I don't know.
But my first time to touch one um nine nineteen,

(01:15:53):
I think, wow, what was yours? That's right? I wouldn't
have even known what to do. I was like, so, well,
do you want to know what's interesting? The first weeen
I ever saw and touched was uncircumcised. Oh so you
were like, I didn't know that they didn't that they

(01:16:16):
didn't all look like that. So what happened when you
saw your second one? Who was my second one? Should
we call him? Ask if he remembers it. I can
only imagine Tanya as like a fifteen year old, like

(01:16:36):
so spastic, just like she had just watched Now and
then saw this song Queen, and she's just like, let's
go a heavy bag or something. It's actually so scary
that like that at that age, like now that I'm

(01:16:58):
in my thirties, the fact that I was doing that
to some man's ween at that age, I mean a man,
but like a teenager, right. Actually he was a senior
and I was a sophomore, so he was older. But yeah,
it's kind of crazy. You know, how old is he?

(01:17:19):
Old is? How old is she's weeks ago? How does this?
How does just make you feel? I'm not concerned about that.
She just went through her first relationship. They broke up.
He's a great kid, and it was just unfortunate. But
I don't need to get into her personal life on
this show. That's fine, everything's fine. Yeah, I'm just saying,

(01:17:43):
I yeah, like I don't know. I mean I wish,
I wish I like knew what I did then, do
you know what I mean? Like, I don't even I
would love to know, Like what you said, verbally, you
do me do I still? I think I've still friends

(01:18:05):
with him on Facebook. I know he's married and he
has a child. It's probably inappropriate for me to go
down that path with him. But yeah, let's I was
joking about reaching out to him or calling him, so
I would just like to know. You know, he probably
doesn't remember as much as you don't remember. Well, not really.

(01:18:25):
That conversation really took an unexpected turn. It's just you know,
it's just funny because like you know, and I think
this happens in life, Like as you get older, you
look back on things and you're just like, oh wow, cringe, cringe,
But like it's part of growing you know, it's just

(01:18:45):
all part of growing up. And everyone has their different
times and experiences, and it's fun to like say, as
as a dad, this pandemic couldn't have come at a
better time. Yeah, true, it's like forcing, yeah yeah yeah.
Can I share one really quick traumatic memory when I
was when I was a freshman in high school, I

(01:19:06):
had a girlfriend for many months and I just knew
we we had made out and stuff like that. I
knew that touching genitals was the next step. And we
were we were in a hot tub and I said
to her, well, I'm going downstairs, and I reached down
into her. I didn't know what I was gonna do,
and she pulled my hand away and broke up with

(01:19:28):
me on the spot, as she should have. And I
never spoke to her again. I'm going downstairs. I'm going yeah,
because I think I saw it in like American Pie
or something like that. I thought he was supposed to
make an announcement like that. Yeah, so so Becky Campbell
of Aptos, California, I'm sorry, if you're listening, that's epic.

(01:19:50):
That's called some modern woman energy. She said, no, you're
not going down You're going home. I'm going home. The
basement doors closed. I don't know stairs is so funny,
Like what was I gonna do? Weird things like that.
I was probably making out with this guy and I
was like, I'm gonna go downstairs, like I could see

(01:20:13):
myself doing that. Oh my god, I would give anything
to hear just like a recording of Tanya. I'm like,
I was probably so like this is the same guy
that we were like skinny dipping in his backyard and
we were just like playing around back there, and his
neighbors called the cops, and the cops like came to
the back yard and I was like fully nude in

(01:20:34):
the in his like pool with like these cops telling
us to like be quiet school. I'm like Tanya was
so different than well, actually yeah dip last weekend, Not
really but pre Pandy, oh pre Pandy. Yeah, I've been

(01:20:58):
in a pool in a minute. Wow, what an exciting
episode we had today. We give you everything. We give
you know, we give you great conversation, we give you
great advice, we give you just awkward sexual stories. Yeah,
it's you really get it all here on scrubbing in. Yeah,

(01:21:19):
I'm really excited to explore my period. So thank you
guys for sending me this woman. I cannot wait and
we give you period things from telling you if we
can empower the period. That is a that is no.
We don't want to empower the period. The periods already empower.
Want to empower our period situations. Mm hmm yeah. Alright,
well on that note, we will be back. I keep

(01:21:43):
thinking about going downstairs. Um. We will be back next
week with another riveting episode of scrubbing in. We love
you all and hope you have a great week. M