January 29, 2025 • 14 mins
OG Bachelors Bob Guiney and Andrew Firestone are hanging out in Pebble Beach and catching up on life, love and The Bachelor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Almost famous the og podcast. We are coming to you
right now from Carmel by the Sea and it is
the third or fourth annual Almost Famous Golf Outing starring
and featuring Ben Higgins. Ben is not here. Ben is
too busy having children. He's in the midst of.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The byproduct of love.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It is. It is the Bachelor and amen, right, that's
what shoots for. So he's he's getting ready.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
To deliver any day. He and Jess are getting ready
to deliver any day. He's very, very excited about it.
But I thankfully am joined by, in my opinion, the
greatest Bachelor of the franchise has ever known, my main man,
Andrew Fires.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It is good to be here with you, Bob, to
be here to me and back again in Carmel.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This is actually my old stomping grounds.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I went to high school right down the road from here,
so this is like old home week for me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So last year we got to walk the course a
little bit together, and walking the course with you is
like nothing I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And you know, it's just you have this way.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Of delivering things that are just like mind blowing and
you're like, oh, yeah, well, I you know, my grandpa
used to own that those two houses right there, So
I spent a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Round across the street and playing.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I was like, we're walking Pebble Beach, Like this is amazing,
and uh, I mean having that kind of upbringing in
this beautiful town, of beautiful surroundings, you had to just
be Did you realize how lucky you were at that?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I mean probably not not really. I mean that hindsight,
you know, definitely clarifies things. But Carmel is such an
amazing little, you know town city right on the on
the water, you know, host to the the AT and T,
which is coming up here this weekend. But it's such
a great backdrop to have a reunion and to be
(01:51):
here with you and Amy. You know that has gotten
us together here. I mean you this is your third
or fourth I've been coming here for fifteen years. I
guess you just never getting invited or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, oh no, thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I when I said third and fourth, I didn't realize
that that many.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
All the time we're all here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, no, you know, I think this is my my
third annual. The first year I remember you. You guys
called me and I was in Mexico with my family
and I was so I had such fun you were here.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That was the best one that makes perfect me miss
a little bit, that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Makes perfect sense. Yeah, and then Harrison was here with
us last year as well. Of course, Ben, what I
do remember, uh, you know, pretty vividly of my first
year here was I was the youngest I'm sorry, the
oldest person here. In fact, I remember being I was
with like Kaylin and Dean Blake and Giannina and like
(02:45):
so and but I was like, wow, okay, so I
was clearly the you know, they brought me here to chaperon.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
They just needed someone to drive.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You can buy beer for the party, And I'm like,
I guess that's me. This year, however, completely opposite.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We are.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You and I are the Spring Chickens, and we are
bringing it up with the Golden after Dark Party.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Which is such a such a great evolution for you know,
the series and the and the and the the whole
like the Bachelor Family to to open it up, and
I'm actually really excited to get to know some of
these people that I've seen on TV and you read
about them, but to go and spend a little bit
of time with them. You know, when they're you know,
kind of the guard is down, is when you actually
learn the most.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Honest it is. That's why we're gonna be feeding them
cocktails tonight. We have already talked about. We got a
little game plan.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yep, there is a tequila luge that's a quarter mile long,
so we'll see what happens here.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
We're just gonna keep a steady poor going, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And but yeah, I've gotten to meet a couple of them,
not all of them met Joan and Chock. Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Joan of course was a golden bachelorette, and then Chock
was the man left standing at the end there. He
is a super cool guy. He and Joan just seem
like they fit right. It's kind of like the whole
trist and Ryan thing. You like, look at these two people,
You're like, yeah, they make perfect sense, right, And Joan
and Chak are like that. And I agree with you though.
It's a great evolution of the franchise that needed to
get back off the skids because there was a while
(04:09):
there where I kind of quit watching, really I did,
because I wanted to know enough about it when someone
would ask me. But I was also like, man, I
just don't want to see people fighting, right, I just
don't you know, that just doesn't do.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
It, no, I think, And that's what I think has
always been the like the magic of the Bachelors is
always like the desire to see somebody end up happy. Yeah,
I mean there's always going to be tears, there's always
going to be those moments that someone's heart broken, but
that's not that's that's a part of it. But I
think the reason that that it's that it's always had
its magic is because everyone's rooting for a happy ending, right,
(04:41):
and whether that's to first love or it might be
later on in life, Like, no matter what it is,
you're always rooting for love. And I think that's why
Bachelor Nation is so strong. I think that's why people
follow the show religiously, because everyone has the same kind
of commonality, which is like you want to see it
turn out well.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You're not hoping someone to fail.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Like like a lot of reality shows like American Idol
or whatever else, the most popular shows were always centered
around the biggest failures, the biggest flops. And I always
had this like pain, like I don't want to see
somebody embarrass themselves now. And I don't want to see
somebody laugh at somebody that's doing what they want to
do or believe they can do, and then get laughed at.
And that's the punchline of the show. I want the
(05:22):
not the punch on the show. I want like the
like the the climax of the show to be like, oh,
look at they're happy, right, And that's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And the show has had a lot of those success
stories over the years. I mean, not not as many
as as I'm sure they hoped for in the beginning,
you know, but people tried.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But in that I think there's this unrealistic expectation that
every relationship is going to end with that, you know,
that marriage and the babies and the and the happily
ever after like the Ryan and the Trista and whatever else.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, you can speak from experience. I can speak
from experience.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I don't think that my my you know, that my
experience in the Bachelor was a failure because I you know,
didn't have that happily ever after. I thought it was
an amazing experience and I learned so much about myself.
I think it made me a better person. I think
I was able to ask myself a lot of questions
about what I wanted in life, and it just was
answered with a different person, But the questions were the same,
(06:15):
and what I got out of it I think shape
me at least a little bit for the personality.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think it's great that you say that, because I
totally agree with you. I mean, we were both at
pivotal times in our life, you know. I mean, do
you think we were like at a different time though
it was a little more of a kinder, gentler I
think environment around this show, like people you know, were
still you know, chirping at you and everything else. But
social media didn't exist, so we didn't have a lot
of negative pressures coming from random people that didn't know us,
(06:41):
you know, and there was that kind of stuff that
that wasn't making us feel bad about ourselves and things.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But I mean, I think it's so experimental. I guess
that's the best way when people have asked me about it.
When I was on, it was experimental, like nobody quite
knew how it was going to end, and so everybody
was kind of hoping for the best, cautious for the worst.
But there was this like optimism around it, and not
only with people that were on the show, participants or
(07:08):
whatever you want to call them, but I think for
the outcome for people watching, it was just like this,
like enthusiasm and optimism for like, this is what could happen,
and I hope it does.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I remember rooting for you guys so much, and then
obviously when you didn't work out, I and you, you
and Havana got together. I was like, oh my god.
Then I was really rooting for you because I had
had a chance to meet her at something and thought
she was lovely. And then I met you of course already,
and you guys got and I didn't even know you
guys were together.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
At first, and then I was like, oh my, I
know where. I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh no another episode yah yah yeah, that that's another
show timely No, but it was.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It was one of those things where you know, I
think then I remember like meeting meeting up with the
two of you, we went out to dinner when when
I was in La with Warren and we went out
to dinner and just had a great time, and I'm like,
I love this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Like it was.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think the show's gotten back to that. I think
the golden I don't even know what you call it,
the golden Eric, golden era. I like it the golden
era of the show. I think it has gotten us
back to that, and it's like a feel good show again.
People are wanting to get along, like I remember being
a Trista's season The Bachelorette, which was a unique experience too,
loving the guys. I was on the show with absolutely
(08:29):
loving them, and then.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We're a little word that you loved them too much.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's there's a whole other
like kind of conversation we could have about whether you
were there for Trista or every other dude.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I was there for the buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I do remember Trista coming home one night and I
had not gone on a date with her that day.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
She comes home and say, no, I didn't. I didn't
turn her down. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I was like, you know, I'd rather stay here with
the boys now I was. I didn't get invited.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
On this one.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And she came back and the house is a mess
and people are falling apart, you know, drunk, and she's like, uh,
why is it When I go on a date when
you're on it. I come home everyone's reading the Bible.
I go on a date with you not on it.
I come home to a frat pop. I'm like, well,
what am I supposed to cry? These are my fifteen
new best friends. But yeah, it was such an awesome
(09:16):
experience and it kind of informed me when I when
I was the Bachelor, I wanted it to be, you know,
the way your show had been and the way that
Tristia's show had been, where it seemed like everyone actually
got along and liked each other. And I was like,
I need that, you know. I don't want it to
go down a path I can't manage.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But there's an inevitable part of I think the viewership
that wants to see behind the curtain of the locker room,
you know, whether that's the sorority house or the locker room.
They want to see kind of what, you know, what
happens when you know that person isn't there and that
group of guys or that group of women are you know,
are kind of backbiting and positioning, and so that's kind
(09:56):
of a necessary part of this to be able to
put the whole story together. Yeah, also to be able
to measure the authenticity of all the participants as well.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, you start realizing, you know, and I mean, it's
it's such an overused cliche term and it drives me
crazy that you know who's there for the right reasons
types of things, and people are always saying, you know,
what are the right reasons for going on a dating
game show?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'm like, it's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know who they are, but you start realizing
which people are actually there for that person and which
people are there to kind of springboard themselves. So all right, well, anyway,
we're here this week. What are you hoping to get
out of this whole thing? I mean, you drove a
long way, You've had a lot going on, you gave
up a lot of your time with your family to
be here. Obviously, I think it's to play golf with me.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, it's just to play golf with you. So, so
my wife was supposed to be here with us this weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
For this week.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
She got a job.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
She's been modeling, so she booked a job so couldn't
be here. And I remember I was I was very
anxious on Saturday or Sunday, and I called you and
I was like, Bob, I got a deal closing this week,
Vona's not going to be there, you know. And like
it's funny how like daily life can get you so
so ways and blind to like you just focus on
(11:03):
what's just right in front of you, and you just
kind of call me down. You're like, we're gonna go
play golf, We're gonna have some nice dinners. We're gonna
we're gonna hang out with like this cool group of people.
Amy's putting this whole thing together. And I was like,
wait one, am I yes, of course, like and these
core memories that I've had over the last couple of
years of this particular event are so important to me.
And so yeah, I did high tail it from Santa
(11:25):
Barbara shot up the one on one, probably a little
quicker than I should have. I may have had a
you know, a couple of quick breaks in the side
of the freeway to h before I got here. But
I'm I'm excited to go and kind of reconnect with
my experience year twenty one years ago something like that,
to be able to like hear somebody else's perspective of
(11:47):
it and a perspective that I really haven't heard, which
is this old this other generation that's also having this
same experience. I mean, the butterflies that you get when
you see somebody, the nervousness that you come out of
the limo, like all these things. I don't care if
you're you know, twenty one or eighty one. That feeling
doesn't change. It's a different perspective, but that feeling doesn't change.
(12:07):
And you're vulnerable, you're optimistic, you're hopeful, all these things.
And so I'm I'm interested to get an account of
what these people have gone through in their perspective, and
it'll I think it would. It's going to shape my
opinion and my perspective my own experience.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Sure, Oh no, I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I think that's a great attitude to have in this
And I will tell you this, the one thing I've
really loved about getting to know the Golden Era people
is that they didn't have an agenda other than.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You know? It was really the truth. They're just like, oh,
what the hell?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
They've all gone through through some stuff and they've all
landed here for different reasons, but they're just kind of like,
you know, why wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I do it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So my my real question is this is someone that
has obviously has had life experience, isn't quite as you know,
kind of like you know, doe eyed about the world
and has has has experienced. Are they more optimistic about
this or are they more pessimistic about this? You know,
like going into it?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Are they going in because I was just.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know, whatever, it's something you know, fun to talk about,
or was it like, no, this, you know, this could
have a real outcome that would be interesting, whether it's
they have the happily ever after or otherwise. But what
is what, you know, going into it? What was their perspective?
What was their anticipation? And and I'm still I'm just
curious what were the what were the anxieties of it?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
You know?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, oh, I'm sure, yeah, and I and I know
a lot of them had them, because especially I think
the guys, the women you'll find, uh, the women, a
few of them in particular, are just they're just let's go,
you know, they're roll. The guys, I think are what
I've found anyways, to be a little bit more you know,
not all of them, but to be a little bit
more withdrawn. I guess a little bit more holding back
(13:56):
and so yeah, well, I'm excited to do this with you, buddy.
This is our first time hosting this thing together.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh, this is my first time hosting anything. Like I
don't know what's with his microphone sills wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's actually not true.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I've seen you do live auctions with absolute brilliance. I've
seen you do a lot of stuff, and that stuff
I cannot do. I don't know how you do it.
I mean, man alive, but you do such a great job.
You raise so much money for different charities with it,
and you know, I'm honored to have you here, my friend.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Let's have a great weekend. Let's get this whole party started.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I hope there's a great editing team there to get
us through. This would be a lot of a lot
of cussing, a lot of bad jokes. Please make me
sound wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They can do this. They do this with me every week,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Bob Giddy and Andrew Firestone are almost famous to ogs
Pebble Beach
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Almost famous the og podcast. We are coming to you
right now from Carmel by the Sea and it is
the third or fourth annual Almost Famous Golf Outing starring
and featuring Ben Higgins. Ben is not here. Ben is
too busy having children. He's in the midst of.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The byproduct of love.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It is. It is the Bachelor and amen, right, that's
what shoots for. So he's he's getting ready.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
To deliver any day. He and Jess are getting ready
to deliver any day. He's very, very excited about it.
But I thankfully am joined by, in my opinion, the
greatest Bachelor of the franchise has ever known, my main man,
Andrew Fires.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It is good to be here with you, Bob, to
be here to me and back again in Carmel.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This is actually my old stomping grounds.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I went to high school right down the road from here,
so this is like old home week for me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So last year we got to walk the course a
little bit together, and walking the course with you is
like nothing I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And you know, it's just you have this way.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Of delivering things that are just like mind blowing and
you're like, oh, yeah, well, I you know, my grandpa
used to own that those two houses right there, So
I spent a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Round across the street and playing.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I was like, we're walking Pebble Beach, Like this is amazing,
and uh, I mean having that kind of upbringing in
this beautiful town, of beautiful surroundings, you had to just
be Did you realize how lucky you were at that?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I mean probably not not really. I mean that hindsight,
you know, definitely clarifies things. But Carmel is such an
amazing little, you know town city right on the on
the water, you know, host to the the AT and T,
which is coming up here this weekend. But it's such
a great backdrop to have a reunion and to be
(01:51):
here with you and Amy. You know that has gotten
us together here. I mean you this is your third
or fourth I've been coming here for fifteen years. I
guess you just never getting invited or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, oh no, thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I when I said third and fourth, I didn't realize
that that many.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
All the time we're all here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, no, you know, I think this is my my
third annual. The first year I remember you. You guys
called me and I was in Mexico with my family
and I was so I had such fun you were here.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That was the best one that makes perfect me miss
a little bit, that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Makes perfect sense. Yeah, and then Harrison was here with
us last year as well. Of course, Ben, what I
do remember, uh, you know, pretty vividly of my first
year here was I was the youngest I'm sorry, the
oldest person here. In fact, I remember being I was
with like Kaylin and Dean Blake and Giannina and like
(02:45):
so and but I was like, wow, okay, so I
was clearly the you know, they brought me here to chaperon.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
They just needed someone to drive.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You can buy beer for the party, And I'm like,
I guess that's me. This year, however, completely opposite.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We are.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You and I are the Spring Chickens, and we are
bringing it up with the Golden after Dark Party.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Which is such a such a great evolution for you know,
the series and the and the and the the whole
like the Bachelor Family to to open it up, and
I'm actually really excited to get to know some of
these people that I've seen on TV and you read
about them, but to go and spend a little bit
of time with them. You know, when they're you know,
kind of the guard is down, is when you actually
learn the most.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Honest it is. That's why we're gonna be feeding them
cocktails tonight. We have already talked about. We got a
little game plan.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yep, there is a tequila luge that's a quarter mile long,
so we'll see what happens here.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
We're just gonna keep a steady poor going, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And but yeah, I've gotten to meet a couple of them,
not all of them met Joan and Chock. Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Joan of course was a golden bachelorette, and then Chock
was the man left standing at the end there. He
is a super cool guy. He and Joan just seem
like they fit right. It's kind of like the whole
trist and Ryan thing. You like, look at these two people,
You're like, yeah, they make perfect sense, right, And Joan
and Chak are like that. And I agree with you though.
It's a great evolution of the franchise that needed to
get back off the skids because there was a while
(04:09):
there where I kind of quit watching, really I did,
because I wanted to know enough about it when someone
would ask me. But I was also like, man, I
just don't want to see people fighting, right, I just
don't you know, that just doesn't do.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
It, no, I think, And that's what I think has
always been the like the magic of the Bachelors is
always like the desire to see somebody end up happy. Yeah,
I mean there's always going to be tears, there's always
going to be those moments that someone's heart broken, but
that's not that's that's a part of it. But I
think the reason that that it's that it's always had
its magic is because everyone's rooting for a happy ending, right,
(04:41):
and whether that's to first love or it might be
later on in life, Like, no matter what it is,
you're always rooting for love. And I think that's why
Bachelor Nation is so strong. I think that's why people
follow the show religiously, because everyone has the same kind
of commonality, which is like you want to see it
turn out well.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You're not hoping someone to fail.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Like like a lot of reality shows like American Idol
or whatever else, the most popular shows were always centered
around the biggest failures, the biggest flops. And I always
had this like pain, like I don't want to see
somebody embarrass themselves now. And I don't want to see
somebody laugh at somebody that's doing what they want to
do or believe they can do, and then get laughed at.
And that's the punchline of the show. I want the
(05:22):
not the punch on the show. I want like the
like the the climax of the show to be like, oh,
look at they're happy, right, And that's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And the show has had a lot of those success
stories over the years. I mean, not not as many
as as I'm sure they hoped for in the beginning,
you know, but people tried.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But in that I think there's this unrealistic expectation that
every relationship is going to end with that, you know,
that marriage and the babies and the and the happily
ever after like the Ryan and the Trista and whatever else.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, you can speak from experience. I can speak
from experience.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I don't think that my my you know, that my
experience in the Bachelor was a failure because I you know,
didn't have that happily ever after. I thought it was
an amazing experience and I learned so much about myself.
I think it made me a better person. I think
I was able to ask myself a lot of questions
about what I wanted in life, and it just was
answered with a different person, But the questions were the same,
(06:15):
and what I got out of it I think shape
me at least a little bit for the personality.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think it's great that you say that, because I
totally agree with you. I mean, we were both at
pivotal times in our life, you know. I mean, do
you think we were like at a different time though
it was a little more of a kinder, gentler I
think environment around this show, like people you know, were
still you know, chirping at you and everything else. But
social media didn't exist, so we didn't have a lot
of negative pressures coming from random people that didn't know us,
(06:41):
you know, and there was that kind of stuff that
that wasn't making us feel bad about ourselves and things.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But I mean, I think it's so experimental. I guess
that's the best way when people have asked me about it.
When I was on, it was experimental, like nobody quite
knew how it was going to end, and so everybody
was kind of hoping for the best, cautious for the worst.
But there was this like optimism around it, and not
only with people that were on the show, participants or
(07:08):
whatever you want to call them, but I think for
the outcome for people watching, it was just like this,
like enthusiasm and optimism for like, this is what could happen,
and I hope it does.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I remember rooting for you guys so much, and then
obviously when you didn't work out, I and you, you
and Havana got together. I was like, oh my god.
Then I was really rooting for you because I had
had a chance to meet her at something and thought
she was lovely. And then I met you of course already,
and you guys got and I didn't even know you
guys were together.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
At first, and then I was like, oh my, I
know where. I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh no another episode yah yah yeah, that that's another
show timely No, but it was.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It was one of those things where you know, I
think then I remember like meeting meeting up with the
two of you, we went out to dinner when when
I was in La with Warren and we went out
to dinner and just had a great time, and I'm like,
I love this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Like it was.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think the show's gotten back to that. I think
the golden I don't even know what you call it,
the golden Eric, golden era. I like it the golden
era of the show. I think it has gotten us
back to that, and it's like a feel good show again.
People are wanting to get along, like I remember being
a Trista's season The Bachelorette, which was a unique experience too,
loving the guys. I was on the show with absolutely
(08:29):
loving them, and then.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We're a little word that you loved them too much.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's there's a whole other
like kind of conversation we could have about whether you
were there for Trista or every other dude.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I was there for the buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I do remember Trista coming home one night and I
had not gone on a date with her that day.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
She comes home and say, no, I didn't. I didn't
turn her down. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I was like, you know, I'd rather stay here with
the boys now I was. I didn't get invited.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
On this one.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And she came back and the house is a mess
and people are falling apart, you know, drunk, and she's like, uh,
why is it When I go on a date when
you're on it. I come home everyone's reading the Bible.
I go on a date with you not on it.
I come home to a frat pop. I'm like, well,
what am I supposed to cry? These are my fifteen
new best friends. But yeah, it was such an awesome
(09:16):
experience and it kind of informed me when I when
I was the Bachelor, I wanted it to be, you know,
the way your show had been and the way that
Tristia's show had been, where it seemed like everyone actually
got along and liked each other. And I was like,
I need that, you know. I don't want it to
go down a path I can't manage.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But there's an inevitable part of I think the viewership
that wants to see behind the curtain of the locker room,
you know, whether that's the sorority house or the locker room.
They want to see kind of what, you know, what
happens when you know that person isn't there and that
group of guys or that group of women are you know,
are kind of backbiting and positioning, and so that's kind
(09:56):
of a necessary part of this to be able to
put the whole story together. Yeah, also to be able
to measure the authenticity of all the participants as well.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, you start realizing, you know, and I mean, it's
it's such an overused cliche term and it drives me
crazy that you know who's there for the right reasons
types of things, and people are always saying, you know,
what are the right reasons for going on a dating
game show?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'm like, it's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know who they are, but you start realizing
which people are actually there for that person and which
people are there to kind of springboard themselves. So all right, well, anyway,
we're here this week. What are you hoping to get
out of this whole thing? I mean, you drove a
long way, You've had a lot going on, you gave
up a lot of your time with your family to
be here. Obviously, I think it's to play golf with me.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, it's just to play golf with you. So, so
my wife was supposed to be here with us this weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
For this week.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
She got a job.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
She's been modeling, so she booked a job so couldn't
be here. And I remember I was I was very
anxious on Saturday or Sunday, and I called you and
I was like, Bob, I got a deal closing this week,
Vona's not going to be there, you know. And like
it's funny how like daily life can get you so
so ways and blind to like you just focus on
(11:03):
what's just right in front of you, and you just
kind of call me down. You're like, we're gonna go
play golf, We're gonna have some nice dinners. We're gonna
we're gonna hang out with like this cool group of people.
Amy's putting this whole thing together. And I was like,
wait one, am I yes, of course, like and these
core memories that I've had over the last couple of
years of this particular event are so important to me.
And so yeah, I did high tail it from Santa
(11:25):
Barbara shot up the one on one, probably a little
quicker than I should have. I may have had a
you know, a couple of quick breaks in the side
of the freeway to h before I got here. But
I'm I'm excited to go and kind of reconnect with
my experience year twenty one years ago something like that,
to be able to like hear somebody else's perspective of
(11:47):
it and a perspective that I really haven't heard, which
is this old this other generation that's also having this
same experience. I mean, the butterflies that you get when
you see somebody, the nervousness that you come out of
the limo, like all these things. I don't care if
you're you know, twenty one or eighty one. That feeling
doesn't change. It's a different perspective, but that feeling doesn't change.
(12:07):
And you're vulnerable, you're optimistic, you're hopeful, all these things.
And so I'm I'm interested to get an account of
what these people have gone through in their perspective, and
it'll I think it would. It's going to shape my
opinion and my perspective my own experience.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Sure, Oh no, I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I think that's a great attitude to have in this
And I will tell you this, the one thing I've
really loved about getting to know the Golden Era people
is that they didn't have an agenda other than.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You know? It was really the truth. They're just like, oh,
what the hell?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
They've all gone through through some stuff and they've all
landed here for different reasons, but they're just kind of like,
you know, why wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I do it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So my my real question is this is someone that
has obviously has had life experience, isn't quite as you know,
kind of like you know, doe eyed about the world
and has has has experienced. Are they more optimistic about
this or are they more pessimistic about this? You know,
like going into it?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Are they going in because I was just.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know, whatever, it's something you know, fun to talk about,
or was it like, no, this, you know, this could
have a real outcome that would be interesting, whether it's
they have the happily ever after or otherwise. But what
is what, you know, going into it? What was their perspective?
What was their anticipation? And and I'm still I'm just
curious what were the what were the anxieties of it?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
You know?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, oh, I'm sure, yeah, and I and I know
a lot of them had them, because especially I think
the guys, the women you'll find, uh, the women, a
few of them in particular, are just they're just let's go,
you know, they're roll. The guys, I think are what
I've found anyways, to be a little bit more you know,
not all of them, but to be a little bit
more withdrawn. I guess a little bit more holding back
(13:56):
and so yeah, well, I'm excited to do this with you, buddy.
This is our first time hosting this thing together.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh, this is my first time hosting anything. Like I
don't know what's with his microphone sills wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's actually not true.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I've seen you do live auctions with absolute brilliance. I've
seen you do a lot of stuff, and that stuff
I cannot do. I don't know how you do it.
I mean, man alive, but you do such a great job.
You raise so much money for different charities with it,
and you know, I'm honored to have you here, my friend.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Let's have a great weekend. Let's get this whole party started.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I hope there's a great editing team there to get
us through. This would be a lot of a lot
of cussing, a lot of bad jokes. Please make me
sound wonderful.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They can do this. They do this with me every week,
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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