August 16, 2023 • 46 mins
Our Bachelor Nation OGs Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter are back for a check in on the current Bachelorette season with Deanna Pappas!
We hear all about Deanna's pickle ball date with Gerry, the upcoming Golden Bachelor.
And Deanna tries to convince us to sympathize with Xavier, but how much can you get away with simply because you're "young"??
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are so excited to welcome Deanna to our podcast
today and for this podcast, we're going to chat all
about Charity's Men Tell all which uh Deanna and I
were lucky enough to be there for. That was so
much fun to see you and Doz obviously, but I
just I love our catch up sessions.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So I feel like it's always like a hard yes
anytime they asked me to come and record, because I'm like, oh,
I get to see my best friends, right right.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I mean, I'm just happy that they brought that they
brought back. I mean because Christa and I have talked
about this a bunch. She's always like, they never asked
me to come back. It's like, you know, so I'm
just really glad they brought you both back with Doz.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I know we were having this conversation because you know
we obviously, Bob, you know this.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We get there all day, we hang out, we have drinks,
we get ready whatever. And they were as soon as
I walked in, I was the first one there and
they were.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Like, okay, this is your room. This one's Trista's room.
And then this one's Desiree's room. I'm like, we're all
going to be in the same room all day may right,
that is.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Exactly what we did.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We hung out all day long because we haven't seen
each other and sometimes so we all literally sat in
my green room and chatted and got ready together all
day long. So it was like, I mean, for me,
I was like, I would have done it for free.
But you know she will tell them.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, so much fun. So welcome to the podcast. I'm
so excited to have you see you, at least see
you on the screen. And it was so much fun.
I don't know about you, but I just adore Charity, right.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, she's super sweet, really seems really sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I haven't watched I'm not the best Bachelorette fan in
the world because I do not spend my Monday nights
watching the show and I am not in several seasons,
so I was definitely playing catch up. But I just
thought she's just so sweet, and I would say after
meeting her in person, she is a true testament to
like who she was on television versus the same person
(02:06):
in person.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
She's just so tiny, so tiny, she is tiny. I
feel like everyone always says that because they see you
on television, and especially for me, they're always like, whoa,
I just thought you were so much taller.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Actually, every time I showed my friends pictures of me
and you, they're like, oh my gosh, Trista is so
much shorter than you.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And I was like, well, she's tiny too.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But yes, it was like, as Bob said, I have
mentioned it so many times on the podcast that I'm like,
did I do something wrong to somebody like executive producer, whatever?
And because I felt like they never asked me back,
and you know, usually it's like to give advice and listen,
(02:52):
I get it. The world has changed a whole lot
since Ryan and I got engaged and married and we
were on the show. But I'm like, you know, there
we have a little bit of knowledge I would hold
after almost twenty years of marriage. So I was really
thankful that they asked me back, and just so thankful
(03:13):
that they had you and does too, because they do
feel like, you know, on our little bachelorette group chat
text session sessions, it's like the three of us are
kind of the the ogs that are part of that.
I mean, I guess who was before you? Obviously Meredith
and Jen. So that billion you were the first. No,
(03:34):
Gillian was after me. I wasn't so you were the first,
and that it was, so it is you and then me.
So where they are legit the old gals, like the
old gus, original guys.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
We are before they started forking out a lot of
money to do the show and going to these exceptional
like cows.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Like we went to Cabo y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, hey, that would have been exotic for me.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I mean I always say, like we got on my
season of the Bachelor, we were at Snake River, oh Wyoming.
We went to Anchorage, Alaska, and then we did get
to go to Belize. But again, but all those trips
were like three days, you know, three.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Days a lot too, though, because the second I start
complaining about not going anywhere fun, She's like, girl, I
was in a hot tub in Seattle, and I was like, oh, yeah,
you got you got me.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And I was on a hot tub at the base
of a hill in Anchorage, Alaska with no heat.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh yeah, that sounds like worse.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh really, no bubbles but no heat, Like it wasn't
even a real hot tub. They fancied it out of
like a couple of inner tubes. I swear to.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Say this all the time because you guys know this.
On the show, a lot of people are always like,
oh my gosh, tell me how this person is, tell
me how trist it is.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Blah blah blahlah blah.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I always remember when I was the bachelorette, I
had never seen the show before, and so I of
course like asked about prior people. And again, because I
was season four, there were only a handful of people
before me.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
There was this one guy who was like the myth
and the legend, because everyone had a story about this one.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Guy, about how funny he was, about.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
How outgoing he was, and also about how they used
to find him in women's bed in the middle of
the night and they were like, we had to keep.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Him on a tight lea. And I was like, this man,
this man, how did he.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I don't know why Grandma was doing that. Oh I
thought you made Graham bun Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, no, he's a solid dude.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
No, Bob, we're referring to you in the metaphorical sense
that you you've got a pretty good, uh pretty good
uh story.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I don't I don't know if that's entirely true.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I think some of those details have gotten way better
with time, because I sure don't remember that stuff. I
don't remember getting a chance to see anybody throughout the
course of the season except the shell.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So I did kissing. He was the kissing bandit.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I was the kissing bandit.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But I do think some of that stuff has become
like folklore. Like I get asked about it sometimes and.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm like, we're that old, We're that old that we true,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I asked about it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Really funny you want to talk about folklore.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Okay, you guys also understand this because you're well married.
I'm no longer married. But children, you're doing the whole
parenting thing whatever. And Trista, I about died the other
day because I went to this fool party after school
with a bunch of moms from my kids elementary school.
Austin is in second grade and Addison is in fourth grade.
And so I am at this girl's house with a
(06:23):
couple of the other mom friends. We're all doing our
mom thing, you know, just being moms and stuff, and
none of them know who I am, you know what
I mean, Like I live just on the outside of
Los Angeles, and I feel like I live a pretty
like under the radar life. So I'm in full on
conversation with these women and in my normal pat no makeup,
they have no clue who I am. Right, So I'm
(06:44):
starting to get to know some of the other's moms.
The other moms sitting there, and this one lady's like, oh, so,
what did you do before you were a flight attendant?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I was like, oh, well, it's always weird to
say what I did. I totally agree. You don't want
to sound like you're bragging, but you also know they
might know the show you know. So I'm all, well,
I had a small stint on reality TV. And the
girl's like, oh, my gosh, no way, I worked in
production in reality TV. And I was like, oh, no joke,
because yeah, I worked on the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And I was like, how do we not know each other?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And she was like, yeah, I only worked on one season.
And I'm like, oh, which season? And she goes Brad
Womac's first season and I was like, oh, you literally
do not recognize me and she was like, no, no,
I don't. And I was like, she was like, did
you go home on like night one and I was like, girl,
I was the final one and she was like, show up?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So that is that is so crazy?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So I literally she's like Google a photo and I
pull up the one photo and it's the very last
screenshot from the final day where I'm standing on the
podium and I got dragoned here coming down my face,
Brad wal Mac is rejecting me in front of America.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And she was like, oh, I was there. I thought
that was so devastating. And I was like, because it
was of trauma and abandonment, is that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Why it shows you how much production truly cares about us, right,
like you're in the throes of all of this.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And she's like, no, you weren't there.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I didn't recognize you. She's the nicest lady, she was
super nice. We're friends now. She actually lives in a neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But she was like, you also had to write all
of the storylines for every day. And I was like,
how do you not remember me? How you not know
who I am?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
She was like, that's great photo of you somewhere on
my phone from fifteen years ago, and I was like
probably probably.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Wait, okay, so let's talk about mentell All. We were there,
but I have to say we were having so much fun,
like backstage, behind the scenes, getting ready, just catching up
and chatting and actually kind of getting filled in on
what we hadn't seen, because of course we're filming something
(08:48):
that would air later, and so we hadn't seen the
shows that had well, at least I hadn't because you
were watching, but.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I know, so we were.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We were backstage just having fun with Batman and some
of the producers, and so we didn't see anything. But
you've watched since, right, d well.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I in my defense, I did do a crash course
while I was getting ready to leave that day. I
kind of zipped through a few episodes and try to
hit some of the hot points so I could.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
At least, But have you seen the mentel All. I
did the same thing today and fast forwarded through some
of the pieces. But in my defense, I was also like,
which ones are hot, which ones are going to be
there to, which ones.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Are going to go on?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
How many roses will I receive tonight? You know what,
how this gonna work out for me totally?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So I just wanted to make sure because I'm pretty
sure Bob has not watched, So I'm just laying the groundwork.
I've watched mentel all. A couple of the things that
stood out were Xavier. So did you watch the Exavier part?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Remind me who Xavier is.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Xavier is the one who said he had been unfaced
ball in Fiji.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh yes, See, we have to figure out.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I'm one of those people that keep people in my
phone by like you know, like airport John, you know
what I mean. So we have to kind of describe
so like erring guy, I don't know his name, but
I know he was Braden Brady, and there was the
haughty firefighter and I only know him as the firefighter Darren.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, Ryan Suter. This is this is how we have
to work.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Okay, Xavier, I did watch, I did watch his bit. Yeah, okay, good.
So it was just frustrating to me that Xavier told
her about his infidelity in Fiji during the overnights and
he hadn't told her beforehand. And I'm like that totally
took away time from anybody else getting time with her
(10:51):
in Fiji. Like she completely could have asked another guy
to come with her to Fiji, knowing that it would
definitely not have worked out. With Xavier because is like
her deal breaker, and I'm glad that she pointed that out.
She kind of put him in his place, and I'm
so glad she did. Like we were saying, especially you
were saying, you know you're strong, you are totally showing
(11:13):
that you're independent, you're a strong woman, and you stand
up for what you believe in. And I felt like
she totally did that. Like I was so proud of
her for saying, why didn't you say this earlier? Like
why did you waste my time? And I get it
that people make mistakes and he realizes that now he
actually went to therapy, he said, and is starting to
(11:37):
do the work that I feel like he should have
done after the infidelity before he came on the show.
But whatever, hindsight's twenty twenty. So I mean, people make mistakes,
understand that, But when you're in this arena and you
have all these other guys, like, you make mistakes. But
he didn't do anything to improve himself after he after
(11:59):
he did that, and.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I was just like, I want my devil's advocate. And
it'll be interesting hearing Bob's mail perspective on this too,
so we can all sympathize with the fact that he's young.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Okay, Right, we've all been there, we've all seen it,
we've all done it. The other piece that we can
And again, I'm all for Charity and the way she's
handled everything, and I'm all for everything that she has
to do with the show.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And about her.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I was twenty four when I went on The Bachelor. Yeah,
twenty four is young. And even at twenty four, I
had the wherewithal to know that you don't go on
a date and air all of your dirty laundry and
your baggage right off the bat, because anyone get scared
away from that, right, No, I get that. Then you
add the concept of being on a television show, so
then he has to vocalize that, not just in front
(12:49):
of the crew, the other guys then is vocalizing that
for the rest of America to watch. The other piece
is and I think that some that we can all
find some Grayson, he likely spent two hours with her, y'all,
from that point to the point he got to Fiji.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's not no, he had well, he had a one
on one date. So that's my problem is that those
dates Trista, you know those dates like you might have.
He had way more time than that. He had way more.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Hours on end with her. So there also was a
part of him too that like, he might not have
known where the relationship was heading. So why would he
be like, Hey, I'm a big old fat cheater and
I have a hard time.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Faithful, Like I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That. I think it's all in the delivery. And he
didn't deliver any of it, like I feel like he
could have very well, said listen. And they had talked
about infidelity before. It was not the first time they
had talked about it, so there was an end to
the conversation prior. So you hadn't watched the one on
one that they had been on, and it was it
was long. They had the entire day together in Fiji,
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even even before that, and and going into that date
in Fiji, the nighttime date, he knew that infidelity was
a problem for her and so it's all about your delivery,
like you can say so in Fiji. Did you see
the way that he delivered it too? I did so
(14:15):
essentially he was like, so I cheated multiple times on
this on my girlfriend in the span of five hours
and I didn't do anything to better myself afterwards five days.
Over five days, he cheated multiple times and then he
was like, I didn't do anything to better myself after
(14:38):
it happened. I know it's going to be hard for
me to not do that again. He didn't say I
will not do that again if we are together. In
the end, he was like, it's going to be really
hard for me. And then she was like, well, here's
the card, and he was like, well, I need to
be in the fantasy suite, and essentially she took that
(14:59):
to mean that he wanted to have sex with her
just to see if they would laugh, and it ends
up in the mentell all he says like, I didn't
he clarified it, and he was like, it wasn't about
sex to me, it was just having time with you
alone without the cameras. But he didn't specify that, and
so she was like, I'm sorry, but you want me
(15:19):
to have sex with you when you just told me
that you might cheat on me, Like, why would I
do that?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I think he did say that if he chose to
be with someone to marry someone, he would have the
intentions to be faithful, so I want to just comment
on something else that you said about him not choosing
therapy before he came on the show, and I would
say that that's definitely something that you have to be
completely emotionally aware about and speak emotional stability and maturity
(15:48):
and all of those things. You have to want those
things before you seek out therapy. But I just think
across the board, the show in general should have people
going into therapy beforehand and coming out of the also
a piece of that totally, Like the production company is
to blame here, you know what I mean, Like, why
not make sure that they're all, you know, mentally stable
(16:08):
before they come on the show, and then let's make
sure they're also often too the free world.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, it wasn't mentally stable. It wasn't about being mentally stable.
It was about how do I be in a committed
relationship and not be unfaithful. That's what she had a
problem with. It wasn't about like having a problem like
with his own mental health. It was about going to
therapy and working on commitment. The level of commitment. We're
(16:36):
all adults here, like, we're all over forty, Like I
feel like we have the wherewithal to understand that. Yeah,
but I'm putting myself in Charity's position, and I'm like,
if I'm Charity, then hell yes, I'm gonna be like,
what did you do? Like, you're on a show to
get married in the end. We're not on a show
to date each other at the end. We're on a
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show to possibly get engaged. Like that's the end, and
there are multiple other people. So if you had this
issue in a previous relationship and it broke it up,
and you know that this is a really important thing
to me to be faithful in a relationship, obviously he
didn't know that going onto the show. But if he's
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going on to it thinking he's going to be serious
and possibly get engaged to this woman, it's just like fine,
if you didn't do anything, then then maybe don't Maybe
don't like admit to that or something, or talk about
it when you're off camera or something. But I just
feel like he just he knew about this infidelity coming
(17:42):
into the show. He found out earlier that it was
a deal breaker for her or would be a really
really hard thing to get passed for her, and then
instead of like fessing up to it and being like,
I am so sorry that I did this to this woman.
I'm so remorseful. I want to be better. I want
(18:03):
to be committed to you. I am falling in love
with you. He was like, no, we're I really think
that we need time in the fantasy suite. And he
didn't justify that. He just wanted time alone with her,
not to just have sex, do you know what I mean?
Like it was all about the delivery.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I've got something to say. Do you want to get
a guy?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So I kind of.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Agree with both of you actually in that I think
what Dianna's trying to say, which which I actually do
agree with. This part of it is a lot of
people don't necessarily go on to the show realizing that
they're going to fall in love, right, so I think
they go on to the show and you never know
the timeline, by the way, unless that was mentioned, but
I don't think you ever know the timeline of when
this happened in his relationship and when someone or he
(18:57):
submitted himself to be on the show and next thing
you know, I mean I turned around.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Time could have been a month.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Right, yeah, so he could have had this relationship split
up and then a month later all of a sudden boom,
he's on national TV, so maybe he didn't have a
chance to kind of dig into himself a little bit
and see where he was at with that whole thing.
But I was going to say, too, Trisy, You're right.
She did bring up that, you know, being faithful in
relationship was of paramount importance to her. And so he
did have a couple opportunities, especially that date in Fiji
(19:21):
when they hung out all day, that he could have
brought it up right.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
He could have been like, look, I.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Got a kind of a complicated dating history or a
complicated relationship past. This happened in my relationship, and I
did this, and I did that. You know that that
would have been a much more opportunity time, because you're right,
he would have probably not ended up on the Fantasy suite.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And you know, but.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
But then again another thing to think about too, And
I mean, you can I'd love to take this out
of the show, but it just exists.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
It's a competition show.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And I know that I know that it's not, you know,
when we think about it, the grand scheme of things,
but it is.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You hear your perspective coming from a male's perspective, because
what I was the Christ was as a woman, Right,
I had the same train of thought when I went
into the show.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It was not about a competition. To me, it wasn't
about any other things other than the fact.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
That, like, maybe I will truly meet the person that
I'm meant to be with, get engaged and.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Live happily in for after.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But I would in the defense, and maybe Bob can
speak to this, I wouldn't say that most men go
on to the show thinking that. Like, I wouldn't say
that most men are like, oh my god, see mom,
I'm about to meet my bride. Like, I don't think
that twenty something.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You know, it's funny that you say that.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Twenty years ago it was different. I mean the show
is different. The reaction of the public to the show
is different. I mean, you hear about some of these guys,
which we'll get to you later down the road, you know,
talking about endorsements before they're every event on the show. Right,
it's like in their Instagram set for their tooth whitening
kits or whenever they're gonna be puddling everyone.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
So I mean, you know you hear about that. But yeah,
like when I remember when I went on the show,
I was open to falling in love.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I was open to, you know, meeting Tristan, and thankfully
I did, you know, and we fell in love.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And we're selling me.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's how the two of you know each other.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes, no, But.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
It's so funny because when I went on a show,
it was like, you know, we went on.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
With the mindset of you know, I was like, well,
I think she's really hot. I can't wait to meet her,
you know that, I mean her, I'm like, she's super cool.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I really like her.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
But it was like our vibe and I trust to
Will attest to this because we talked.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
About it for the last hundred years now.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Our vibe was always just like really great friendship vibe.
Like it wasn't a romantic vibe. And as much as
I care about her and did that and do now,
you know, I mean, I love her, but we didn't
fall in love in that relationship way.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
And I think that you go on a show like that.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I didn't go on there with the attention of not
falling in love, but I didn't go on there with
the like I wasn't sitting at home just pining for
the weeks leading up to it, going oh my god,
I can't wait to get the show and fall in month.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
You know, I was more like, I don't know what
the hell's going on.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I'm going to show up and have a good time
and hopefully this girl's gonna be awesome, and thankfully she
was and has become a dear friend of me. So
I think that the guys nowadays, and I can only
judge this from the ones that I've met, I think
they might go on there with a different mindset than
even what we had back then, which was a lot more.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You have to say, I totally agree with that. But
at the same time, he was going to tell he
told her when she walked her to the car, when
when she walked him to the car, that he was
in love with her. So he was already there, like yeah,
I totally get that, Like, wait, you know, you're you're
trying to gauge whether or not you even like this person,
(22:23):
if you're if you want to stick around, if you
think it's worth it to bring this up in front
of America, in front of the crew, like admit your deepest,
darkest secrets. Totally understand that. But he was there, he
was at the point where he was in love with her,
and I just feel like it's a big conversation. What
really was I don't know, but he said it when
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he when he went to the car. I don't know
if he was or not. I mean, obviously he was
heartbroken on the mentel all like he was. He was
visibly upset.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I pride myself on my brutal honesty, and it doesn't
always rub people the right way, but I like for
there to be no reading in between the lines. Right
when I left, when I was on The Bachelor, I
was so confused about what Brad had done to me
because he wasn't honest about the situation. So right on
my brutal honesty. So would I have handled it the
same way. Absolutely not. I just I'm just trying to
(23:24):
play devil's advocate and give him a little bit of
grace because we we the three of us here, have
been in that situation.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
We know how hard it be, we know what a
mind fuck it can totally be.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
There.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
No, I agree, I love as being like the maternal
person for this show. I obviously I don't. I'm not
beating him down saying you are so wrong and you like,
I feel like he was really remorseful at the Mental Hall.
He apologized. It seemed very heartfelt. You could tell that
(23:56):
he was so somber that entire time. Even when we
were on stage, he was just kind of like, take
me out of here. He was not laughing and joking around. No,
not at all vibe for him.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And I would imagine to like sitting on that stage
and sitting with Charity and having to explain where he
was at, there was probably a deep sense of regret, y'all, Like, right,
you probably realized And again, at the end of the day,
is this going to be the end of his story?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
No, He's likely going to do a lot. Oh no,
of course not.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
He's going to make someone a very wonderful husband and
fall in love and be really happy, we hope. And
I think he learned his lesson through this show. I
think he realized because he did say, you know, I
got a therapist, I want to I want to talk
through this with someone. And I think he actually matured
a lot because of the show. I'm not beating him down.
We're just discussing the like what I feel like should
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have happened earlier, because it I do I really wish
that more people and hopefully in the future they will
will take it seriously like this. Yes, of course people
are going to come on and they're gonna want be influencers,
and they're going to want to be you know, gaining
hundreds of thousands of followers, whatever. But I just feel
like it is a show. Ultimately. I still believe this
(25:09):
about love and finding the person that you're meant to
be with it. Maybe there's a few that are in
there because they want to get famous, whatever that's going
to happen because that's the day and age that we
live in. But I really would love for people, especially
for the people who do go farther like, just to
be honest, like you're saying, like, just be honest with
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who you are, and if you're falling for this person,
then tell them the things that you feel like are
going to be important in a relationship. And if they
have deal breakers, bring them up, like.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Have that get the testament as to who you are
as a person, like I would do.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I had a guy on my season who waited.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Until after the show was done to let me know
that he had a girlfriend up until hometown.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Dates, So like, yeah, I'm all with you, like, let's
all be.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Honest, let's all just like put it out home, stay
role all be hoes and decent human beings.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But at the end of the day, what everybody thinks
like us well, and and like you said, like show
him some grace. He's young, But like I said, I
think that he learned his lesson and I know he will,
he will find someone, he'll be happy. I loved him
throughout the show. I just I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
The people can make good people can make that decisions.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Also, maybe there are a few narcissest who walk into
a situation like that and they're like, oh, I can't.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Wait to hurt this person.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But he doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I mean, I can't imagine he spent those five days
being like, well, I can't wait to screw her over.
You know, he probably just made some bad choices. And
at the end of the day, the truth of the
matter is the relationship that he was in was probably
done anyway, if he was that tempted to be with
another human being anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I'm okay, So let's talk about our experience. So we
went out on the on stage. Is so much fun.
I loved being able to share kind of our our
wisdom and even see the packages that they put up
for each of our families. It's always so fun to
see our kids kids.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What they didn't even show my kids.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
They showed you what they did and desires, but they
didn't show No, they showed old clips of when I
was the bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So when we were on stage, they showed my pictures,
you know what I mean? Oh, yes, episode air, they
actually didn't show me with my kids. They showed old
clips of when I was a bachelorette and talking about
how it didn't work out for me.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And I was like, what is happening right now?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Because oh they did.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
They didn't show my ladies that what was happening right now.
They did the same thing for me. They showed the
clip of the wedding and then they showed just a
picture of our family. Same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, No, they didn't show any pictures of my family.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Oh they didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh I thought they did.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
They did on stage, Trista, That's what I'm saying. They
did on stage, but it did not make the cut
for the show.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's why I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
As does now I get to me as a failed
back threat? Oh it does take me a while old
gal right here anyway. So so after the show, you know,
after we're on stage, we come out and Gary comes on,
who we both freaking love. I love, I hate this, Bob,
(28:21):
let me just show you this right here. I was
willing to talk to new picture the attention that night.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I was like, all fine, specimen of men, look at
all these men, and then Gary here comes Garrety Trista
got the worst photo of me and Gary.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh my god, you look at what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You looked cute and I was about how you look.
It was totally a moment captured that he was laughing
hysterically because of something that you said. You were cracking
him up.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yes you are, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So No, I thought.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
It was that looks like.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He's pretty good looking.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
He's pretty good looking, looks like he has spent some
of his off time in Florida, so like his coloring
was off and he really blonde. But he was, like
he Bob, honestly interested will tell you the same thing.
He was the nicest guy, like he was so joyful
to be there. And if you see the mental episode
his segment, he totally is.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Just like a nice guy, like he's.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Out there jollie gee.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Guys like.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The cute and I waked. I'm blatantly flirting with him
in front of everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And I was.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Like, yes, Gary, let me know what time to be there.
I'll see you soon. I walked into the here and
makeup room and he was sitting there and I hadn't
(29:50):
met him yet, and I was like, Hi, Gary, how
are you? And I'm like, so, how is social media going?
Because as he's talked about like he doesn't know anything
about social media and he like totally over his head.
And I was like, how's it going? And he was like, oh,
it's fine. Are you from the social media crew? But
(30:12):
he had no clue who any of us were. He
literally was like, who are you? This is my show?
So I was like, no, I I was actually the
first bachelorette. And he jumped out of the hair and
makeup chair and came and gave me, gave me the
biggest hug. He was so freaking.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It is Gary. It's spelled Jerry, but it's pronounced Gary.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Yeah, Okay, he looks good.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
He does.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And you know what seventy one or something seventy one?
He like my word for him is wholesome. After meeting him,
and he's just so grounded, and I ended up going
and doing a date with him. Oh I just got back.
(31:02):
That's why I'm so tan. I went in spray tand
before I went, so, I flew to la on Friday
and flew back on Sunday and I was there for
a pickleball date with.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
All the ladies.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
It was so much fun and I got to like
have some time with him and just talk to him
about how he's feeling and everything. But I just my
word for him is wholesome. He is the grandpa that
everyone is going to be rooting for. And I have
said this, I'm sure I've said this on the show Bob,
on this podcast. I have always felt like they need
(31:38):
to pluck someone out of obscurity that we all can
fall in love with communally together as Bachelor Nation. And
thank goodness they're doing it with him because his story
is just so heartbreaking and I mean how he lost
his wife. And I just hope that everyone rallies around
(32:02):
this this season because he is so wholesome and so
everyone's deserving, but he's so deserving of a second chance
at love and just to share by somebody.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He's like West guy, Like he's like super nice and
you could tell he just sits around on eats cheese
curds and like lives.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
As best.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know what I mean. He's all around like great
nice guy and that came off.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That came off like the second you spoke to him,
like or was in his presence, like you could just
tell he was just as happy as can be, you
know what I mean. I see him people sit on
two different fences. Because I've been asking around if people
planning on watching the Golden Bachelor, you know what I mean,
because I'm super stoked for it. I would really love
to see the show go back to some of those
(32:49):
early days of the goodness genuine conversation where people were
for a social media following or or to not have
a real job in.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
So it's funny because I kind of got like a
fifty to fifty opinion from people, Like some people were
like no, heck no, I'm not really where's the drama
going to be? And also these how old are these
women going to be?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
And then the other portion, which were a lot of
people who have watched the show from you know, day one,
from Trista's days, or I don't remember the other guy's name,
but that we're saying like they were super excited to
see the show go back to its roots. That has
so off course, literally, you know, since Chris Harrison left
and some of these other I'm telling you, the older
I get, the younger they get, and it's becoming a
(33:32):
larger gap between me and any of these people on
the show.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But a lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Excited to see the show go back to hopefully some
of the basics, which was that there wasn't drama, but
just to see more wholesome content, more genuine connections between
people and not be so centered around like who's there
for the right reasons?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Right to sell T shirts? You know, just rap, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I've never seen the shows on it, so like it's
not like I'm moved home and like paparazzi were hanging
out in my bushes and noon and Georgia, like I
just are legit sometimes a little stupid saying I went
on the show for the right reasons, Like as stupid
as it sounds, a legit went on for the opportunity
to meet someone.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I don't think that's not stupid at all. That's what
the show is about, you know. So it's like I
think that's that's awesome. I mean, I think that takes
it back. And I think with Gary, I got I
wanted to say Jerry so bad, But with Gary, I
think it is going to be one of those things.
And especially now with the feedback you guys are getting,
you know, so, so we're all excited. We figure all
excite from the Golden bashlud. But I have to hear
(34:36):
because I wasn't there with you all about Braiden.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I got to hear about Braiden. Yeah, that's a feather
aaring guy. Like, what was your impression? Was he putting
on his best front with you guys? Was he flirting
with you?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Like I could just see that dude like you guys walking,
He's like hello eighties, Like I get you to see
it in my.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Life because Trista and Desiree were like, all these boys
are flirting with you and I was like, I think
I'm must be blind as a bat because I'm not
seeing it, Like I'm not sitting there with my cocktail
and my beef chest suit, and I'm all like, hello, handsome,
Hello handsome, do you need to know how to spell
my first and last name? You're cute, You're nice and tall?
Like I literally was like just eating it up. But yeah,
(35:16):
he was sly learning and it was awesome. No, So
we were backstage just hanging out with you know, the
directors and producers and stuff, just kind of catching up
with people we haven't seen in a while. And the
show ends, the guys come out, and I do remember
Brandon was the first guy that came up to us,
(35:37):
And had I not ever seen him on any show,
I would say that guy is so sweet and he
was just very friendly and very respectful, like there was
there would have been no inclination about any kind of drama. None.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Right, I feel like I'm a pretty such aster.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Tore up on the show.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
The difference being Bob is like we didn't watch the show.
We literally were like three girls in our green room
just catching up about life and talking about our kids
and sharing pictures and just you know, being the friends
that we are. So when we went on stage, we
actually did not have the opportunity on stage to interact
with the guys.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
They sat off to our left, and you know, because
we're cheated looking at Jesse, we really didn't. You don't
even see them there, to be honest, So it wasn't
until afterwards when they all came out. And because I
watched the episode, I have an appreciation for him because
I have this skill to be so very honest. And
(36:45):
I actually thought, even when I watched the episode of
the Mental All, that he did a really good job
of explaining himself. Now, I think there were pieces of
the show where he likely got caught up. When you're
watching the season, he came off as a little bit
of a d bag, bragging about his all kinds of stuff,
and nobody likes a guy who kisses and tells. Just
so we're all on the same way, yeah, no one
likes that. Don't brag about how far you got. Don't
(37:06):
brag about how long. No one wants to hear that. Like,
be an adult about it, be an adult, a man,
a grown man. But I do think that when he
was on stage and discussing his persona and his personality
and who he is, I did a really good job
on stage of being like, hey, I didn't handle this
the best way. But like, I am me to my core,
(37:28):
and Tristan knows this because she's been walking alongside me
for several years now as I've gone through what has
been the most difficult time of my entire life. And
in the day, I am me to my core, and
I shouldn't apologize for that. We are meant in life
to have relationships, to refine us, to help us grow
(37:48):
to be better, we hope, right. But like, at the
end of the day, I can't apologize for being an
incredibly human being, right And I'm not a glass half
full kind of person. And it's not because I don't
want to beat It's because I was never given that opportunity.
I've had a very difficult life getting to this point.
But I am loyal and loyal to a fault to myself,
(38:09):
and I am kind and I am honest, and I
am willing to walk through the hard shit as deep
as it gets to drag him. Ever, I have to
to get out on the other side, and I will
not apologize for that. So there is this huge piece
of my heart that appreciated that even though he really
was getting beat down on stage, I'm already carrying him
(38:30):
apart down to his scarf ashrings, to his personality, to
everything that. I thought he did a really good job
of standing firm and who he is, and I appreciate
that one hundred.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I totally agree with everything you said. I think that
another person could have very well, gotten really frustrated and
gotten mad and was towarded, you know, and said mean
things back to the guys. But he was so calm,
cool and collected and not in a way that it
felt like it was disingenuous. It just felt like he's like,
(39:00):
you know what, I'm not going to be able to
change these guys' minds. I'm sorry for the way that
I treated Charity. I could have handled that better, and
you know, we're moving on and that's that. And he
even apologized to Charity you know too, like they're during
their conversation. I thought, actually the more disrespectful one was
when Sean was like, can I come up there? And
(39:26):
I'm like, okay, I get it. But if he had
something that he was like, I want to give you
a hug, or he didn't do anything like that, he
just wanted to be up there. That felt more disingenuine
to me. And he was further on in the show
that felt more disingenuine to me than some of the
other guys who really respectfully sat in their chairs and
(39:48):
owned up to some of their pieces on the show.
And maybe they're disrespected how they handled certain situations that
felt more disingenuine to me. And I'm not saying he
was trying to be. It just felt that way to me.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
And I was gonna ask you about that, because you know,
you need to the note of the way the.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Show went, and it's like he's got the most to say,
like you're not invited, Braden. It's like, but you don't
make the guest list, right, It's like everything I was
reading about it, I'm like, who is Sean?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
So I had to go back and actually figure out
who he was. So I was going to ask you
about him. So, so you guys felt like he kind
of just inserted himself to.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Get a streams watching the show back are interacting with him.
I think he was one of the ones that came
up and said hi after when you were back.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
That I was going to say was I'm a pretty
good judge of character, Like off the bat, I just
really can read people well. And Trista to your to
your sentiment. I think the same thing. When he walked up,
you get a really good vibe from him. He feels
very genuine. He the guys were being weird, Bob, I'm
joking around aout how much I was sporting with them.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they were all.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Respectful to their elders. None of them were weird or
rude in any way, none of them or inappropriate. Like
they all you could just tell, like if they didn't
know who we were, they knew then, and they were
all very kind in the way that they addressed us,
hugged us, said hello, that it was a pleasure to
the kids, told us we were beautiful. You know what
(41:08):
a bunch of three older women want to hear.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You know what I mean, Like, he was the first
one out of the gate, and I just thought he
seems like a warm outside of this, like a really
warm and genuine human being.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I got a really you mean Brandon, Yeah, I agree.
And then I also I want to say, Adam, I
don't remember him. I don't remember him walking up to me,
I don't remember hugging him. I don't remember him to
anybody else. So I know you do you remember. But
before I get to that, I want to say, Michael,
who's the yacht captain? He had like a gray a
green uh like over sports code on. He came up
(41:44):
to me and I don't know if he if he
came up to you too. He gave me the biggest hug,
but it like kind of took my breath away because
it was so strong. I was like, I mean, I
have not had any like physical in a very long time.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
So I was like taking all the hugs. I'm like,
possibly he too.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I'm like Christa is a lot smaller than me.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
She's cropful, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Like I was looking for a good bear hug to
just make sure I can remember what it feels like
a man.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Those guys, those captains.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So one of them came up to us and he
was talking to us, and it ended up being the firefighter.
I was talking to him a little bit about how
Ryan was a firefighter, and there was one guy on
my seat. Who's the firefighter? Guy, Bob, you can tell
me did I let go the first night? Oh? Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Hang on.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
He's a guy I met in at the Dirty.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Or something, right. I was trying to remember his name.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Billy Billy Bill, Billy Billy.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Polta, so I couldn't remember his name, and I feel
like they might have been at the same station at
one point. But anyway, so we were talking about that
and then he went and he brought roses for each
of us. He was handing all of us roses. But
I have a feeling I think this is the one
that and I even I think you said it earlier,
the hottie. I only remember the hottie that's what wearing
(43:13):
all white, and he had the he had I don't
want to call it audacity, but he had the uh
guts to like, like, the three of us haven't received
enough roses, and.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Could you be original, but also give me your phone number.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
He did.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Bobby totally went and found three red roses and started
handing them out to the three of us and we
were like, oh cute, but we've got a few things, Matt,
and then he ran away like a scared child.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
He was like, okay, by I see you all later.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Had this original idea.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, no, if there's if there's any if there's any
guy from the mentel all that, I feel like maybe
Gianna had a little a little uh vibe vibe wit.
It was definitely Aaron, though I was trying to make
eye contact. I was trying to look in his direction.
(44:11):
Scared scared him, He scared. He cannot handle this forty
one year old grown ass woman. He's what has not happened?
I'm not getting any of them sliding into my DM.
So I clearly made a big impression.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I want to thank you, guys. I feel like I
was at the episode with you. I feel like I
was there writing at a little bird's idea of what
it was like. First of all, I'm so glad they
brought you both back. I mean and as three of
my favorites of all time obviously from this show, but
I think in general two just three perfect personalities have
on that show and kind of help Charity a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
So great job, ladies.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Thank you yeah tomorrow, Trista. But let's do it again tomorrow.
I know, right every week, because I would love just
I don't know about you, guys, but it's it's just
good energy. I love the energy. When I returned to
the show, you know, it's it's just.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I was literally pitching everything because Ryan and Trista have
their twenty year anniversary coming up, and I'm all to
like Rob Mills, I'm like, listen, can you please do
like a vowel renewal so that we can all get
together again and have so much fun.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Core memories of fun weddings.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Of people where you all just get to be together
and have the best time ever. So I literally was
like pitching Tristan Ryan's vow renewal to be taped by ABC,
and I'm like, we really just need a good excuse
to like get together.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
On an island, somewhere.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
On an island, please ago, We're trying to go next
Trista some tropical island, Like, just just send me there,
pay for my flight whatever, I'll be there. Okay, thank
you for being here today and recapping the men tell all,
(45:59):
it was just such a pleasure to see you in
person obviously, always always makes me happy, and we do
get to have you for another episode, so I know,
two for one part two. Thanks everybody for tuning in
to Almost Famous Ogs with Me, Trista.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Setter and Me, Bob Getty and today with Jan Stage
as well. Okay,
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are so excited to welcome Deanna to our podcast
today and for this podcast, we're going to chat all
about Charity's Men Tell all which uh Deanna and I
were lucky enough to be there for. That was so
much fun to see you and Doz obviously, but I
just I love our catch up sessions.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So I feel like it's always like a hard yes
anytime they asked me to come and record, because I'm like, oh,
I get to see my best friends, right right.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I mean, I'm just happy that they brought that they
brought back. I mean because Christa and I have talked
about this a bunch. She's always like, they never asked
me to come back. It's like, you know, so I'm
just really glad they brought you both back with Doz.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I know we were having this conversation because you know
we obviously, Bob, you know this.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We get there all day, we hang out, we have drinks,
we get ready whatever. And they were as soon as
I walked in, I was the first one there and
they were.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Like, okay, this is your room. This one's Trista's room.
And then this one's Desiree's room. I'm like, we're all
going to be in the same room all day may right,
that is.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Exactly what we did.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We hung out all day long because we haven't seen
each other and sometimes so we all literally sat in
my green room and chatted and got ready together all
day long. So it was like, I mean, for me,
I was like, I would have done it for free.
But you know she will tell them.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, so much fun. So welcome to the podcast. I'm
so excited to have you see you, at least see
you on the screen. And it was so much fun.
I don't know about you, but I just adore Charity, right.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, she's super sweet, really seems really sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I haven't watched I'm not the best Bachelorette fan in
the world because I do not spend my Monday nights
watching the show and I am not in several seasons,
so I was definitely playing catch up. But I just
thought she's just so sweet, and I would say after
meeting her in person, she is a true testament to
like who she was on television versus the same person
(02:06):
in person.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
She's just so tiny, so tiny, she is tiny. I
feel like everyone always says that because they see you
on television, and especially for me, they're always like, whoa,
I just thought you were so much taller.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Actually, every time I showed my friends pictures of me
and you, they're like, oh my gosh, Trista is so
much shorter than you.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And I was like, well, she's tiny too.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But yes, it was like, as Bob said, I have
mentioned it so many times on the podcast that I'm like,
did I do something wrong to somebody like executive producer, whatever?
And because I felt like they never asked me back,
and you know, usually it's like to give advice and listen,
(02:52):
I get it. The world has changed a whole lot
since Ryan and I got engaged and married and we
were on the show. But I'm like, you know, there
we have a little bit of knowledge I would hold
after almost twenty years of marriage. So I was really
thankful that they asked me back, and just so thankful
(03:13):
that they had you and does too, because they do
feel like, you know, on our little bachelorette group chat
text session sessions, it's like the three of us are
kind of the the ogs that are part of that.
I mean, I guess who was before you? Obviously Meredith
and Jen. So that billion you were the first. No,
(03:34):
Gillian was after me. I wasn't so you were the first,
and that it was, so it is you and then me.
So where they are legit the old gals, like the
old gus, original guys.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
We are before they started forking out a lot of
money to do the show and going to these exceptional
like cows.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Like we went to Cabo y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, hey, that would have been exotic for me.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I mean I always say, like we got on my
season of the Bachelor, we were at Snake River, oh Wyoming.
We went to Anchorage, Alaska, and then we did get
to go to Belize. But again, but all those trips
were like three days, you know, three.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Days a lot too, though, because the second I start
complaining about not going anywhere fun, She's like, girl, I
was in a hot tub in Seattle, and I was like, oh, yeah,
you got you got me.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And I was on a hot tub at the base
of a hill in Anchorage, Alaska with no heat.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh yeah, that sounds like worse.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh really, no bubbles but no heat, Like it wasn't
even a real hot tub. They fancied it out of
like a couple of inner tubes. I swear to.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Say this all the time because you guys know this.
On the show, a lot of people are always like,
oh my gosh, tell me how this person is, tell
me how trist it is.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Blah blah blahlah blah.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I always remember when I was the bachelorette, I
had never seen the show before, and so I of
course like asked about prior people. And again, because I
was season four, there were only a handful of people
before me.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
There was this one guy who was like the myth
and the legend, because everyone had a story about this one.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Guy, about how funny he was, about.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
How outgoing he was, and also about how they used
to find him in women's bed in the middle of
the night and they were like, we had to keep.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Him on a tight lea. And I was like, this man,
this man, how did he.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I don't know why Grandma was doing that. Oh I
thought you made Graham bun Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, no, he's a solid dude.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
No, Bob, we're referring to you in the metaphorical sense
that you you've got a pretty good, uh pretty good
uh story.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I don't I don't know if that's entirely true.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I think some of those details have gotten way better
with time, because I sure don't remember that stuff. I
don't remember getting a chance to see anybody throughout the
course of the season except the shell.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So I did kissing. He was the kissing bandit.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I was the kissing bandit.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But I do think some of that stuff has become
like folklore. Like I get asked about it sometimes and.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm like, we're that old, We're that old that we true,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I asked about it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Really funny you want to talk about folklore.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Okay, you guys also understand this because you're well married.
I'm no longer married. But children, you're doing the whole
parenting thing whatever. And Trista, I about died the other
day because I went to this fool party after school
with a bunch of moms from my kids elementary school.
Austin is in second grade and Addison is in fourth grade.
And so I am at this girl's house with a
(06:23):
couple of the other mom friends. We're all doing our
mom thing, you know, just being moms and stuff, and
none of them know who I am, you know what
I mean, Like I live just on the outside of
Los Angeles, and I feel like I live a pretty
like under the radar life. So I'm in full on
conversation with these women and in my normal pat no makeup,
they have no clue who I am. Right, So I'm
(06:44):
starting to get to know some of the other's moms.
The other moms sitting there, and this one lady's like, oh, so,
what did you do before you were a flight attendant?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I was like, oh, well, it's always weird to
say what I did. I totally agree. You don't want
to sound like you're bragging, but you also know they
might know the show you know. So I'm all, well,
I had a small stint on reality TV. And the
girl's like, oh, my gosh, no way, I worked in
production in reality TV. And I was like, oh, no joke,
because yeah, I worked on the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And I was like, how do we not know each other?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And she was like, yeah, I only worked on one season.
And I'm like, oh, which season? And she goes Brad
Womac's first season and I was like, oh, you literally
do not recognize me and she was like, no, no,
I don't. And I was like, she was like, did
you go home on like night one and I was like, girl,
I was the final one and she was like, show up?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So that is that is so crazy?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So I literally she's like Google a photo and I
pull up the one photo and it's the very last
screenshot from the final day where I'm standing on the
podium and I got dragoned here coming down my face,
Brad wal Mac is rejecting me in front of America.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And she was like, oh, I was there. I thought
that was so devastating. And I was like, because it
was of trauma and abandonment, is that.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Why it shows you how much production truly cares about us, right,
like you're in the throes of all of this.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And she's like, no, you weren't there.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I didn't recognize you. She's the nicest lady, she was
super nice. We're friends now. She actually lives in a neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But she was like, you also had to write all
of the storylines for every day. And I was like,
how do you not remember me? How you not know
who I am?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
She was like, that's great photo of you somewhere on
my phone from fifteen years ago, and I was like
probably probably.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Wait, okay, so let's talk about mentell All. We were there,
but I have to say we were having so much fun,
like backstage, behind the scenes, getting ready, just catching up
and chatting and actually kind of getting filled in on
what we hadn't seen, because of course we're filming something
(08:48):
that would air later, and so we hadn't seen the
shows that had well, at least I hadn't because you
were watching, but.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I know, so we were.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We were backstage just having fun with Batman and some
of the producers, and so we didn't see anything. But
you've watched since, right, d well.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I in my defense, I did do a crash course
while I was getting ready to leave that day. I
kind of zipped through a few episodes and try to
hit some of the hot points so I could.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
At least, But have you seen the mentel All. I
did the same thing today and fast forwarded through some
of the pieces. But in my defense, I was also like,
which ones are hot, which ones are going to be
there to, which ones.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Are going to go on?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
How many roses will I receive tonight? You know what,
how this gonna work out for me totally?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So I just wanted to make sure because I'm pretty
sure Bob has not watched, So I'm just laying the groundwork.
I've watched mentel all. A couple of the things that
stood out were Xavier. So did you watch the Exavier part?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Remind me who Xavier is.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Xavier is the one who said he had been unfaced
ball in Fiji.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh yes, See, we have to figure out.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I'm one of those people that keep people in my
phone by like you know, like airport John, you know
what I mean. So we have to kind of describe
so like erring guy, I don't know his name, but
I know he was Braden Brady, and there was the
haughty firefighter and I only know him as the firefighter Darren.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, Ryan Suter. This is this is how we have
to work.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Okay, Xavier, I did watch, I did watch his bit. Yeah, okay, good.
So it was just frustrating to me that Xavier told
her about his infidelity in Fiji during the overnights and
he hadn't told her beforehand. And I'm like that totally
took away time from anybody else getting time with her
(10:51):
in Fiji. Like she completely could have asked another guy
to come with her to Fiji, knowing that it would
definitely not have worked out. With Xavier because is like
her deal breaker, and I'm glad that she pointed that out.
She kind of put him in his place, and I'm
so glad she did. Like we were saying, especially you
were saying, you know you're strong, you are totally showing
(11:13):
that you're independent, you're a strong woman, and you stand
up for what you believe in. And I felt like
she totally did that. Like I was so proud of
her for saying, why didn't you say this earlier? Like
why did you waste my time? And I get it
that people make mistakes and he realizes that now he
actually went to therapy, he said, and is starting to
(11:37):
do the work that I feel like he should have
done after the infidelity before he came on the show.
But whatever, hindsight's twenty twenty. So I mean, people make mistakes,
understand that, But when you're in this arena and you
have all these other guys, like, you make mistakes. But
he didn't do anything to improve himself after he after
(11:59):
he did that, and.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I was just like, I want my devil's advocate. And
it'll be interesting hearing Bob's mail perspective on this too,
so we can all sympathize with the fact that he's young.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Okay, Right, we've all been there, we've all seen it,
we've all done it. The other piece that we can
And again, I'm all for Charity and the way she's
handled everything, and I'm all for everything that she has
to do with the show.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And about her.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I was twenty four when I went on The Bachelor. Yeah,
twenty four is young. And even at twenty four, I
had the wherewithal to know that you don't go on
a date and air all of your dirty laundry and
your baggage right off the bat, because anyone get scared
away from that, right, No, I get that. Then you
add the concept of being on a television show, so
then he has to vocalize that, not just in front
(12:49):
of the crew, the other guys then is vocalizing that
for the rest of America to watch. The other piece
is and I think that some that we can all
find some Grayson, he likely spent two hours with her, y'all,
from that point to the point he got to Fiji.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's not no, he had well, he had a one
on one date. So that's my problem is that those
dates Trista, you know those dates like you might have.
He had way more time than that. He had way more.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Hours on end with her. So there also was a
part of him too that like, he might not have
known where the relationship was heading. So why would he
be like, Hey, I'm a big old fat cheater and
I have a hard time.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Faithful, Like I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That. I think it's all in the delivery. And he
didn't deliver any of it, like I feel like he
could have very well, said listen. And they had talked
about infidelity before. It was not the first time they
had talked about it, so there was an end to
the conversation prior. So you hadn't watched the one on
one that they had been on, and it was it
was long. They had the entire day together in Fiji,
(13:54):
even even before that, and and going into that date
in Fiji, the nighttime date, he knew that infidelity was
a problem for her and so it's all about your delivery,
like you can say so in Fiji. Did you see
the way that he delivered it too? I did so
(14:15):
essentially he was like, so I cheated multiple times on
this on my girlfriend in the span of five hours
and I didn't do anything to better myself afterwards five days.
Over five days, he cheated multiple times and then he
was like, I didn't do anything to better myself after
(14:38):
it happened. I know it's going to be hard for
me to not do that again. He didn't say I
will not do that again if we are together. In
the end, he was like, it's going to be really
hard for me. And then she was like, well, here's
the card, and he was like, well, I need to
be in the fantasy suite, and essentially she took that
(14:59):
to mean that he wanted to have sex with her
just to see if they would laugh, and it ends
up in the mentell all he says like, I didn't
he clarified it, and he was like, it wasn't about
sex to me, it was just having time with you
alone without the cameras. But he didn't specify that, and
so she was like, I'm sorry, but you want me
(15:19):
to have sex with you when you just told me
that you might cheat on me, Like, why would I
do that?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I think he did say that if he chose to
be with someone to marry someone, he would have the
intentions to be faithful, so I want to just comment
on something else that you said about him not choosing
therapy before he came on the show, and I would
say that that's definitely something that you have to be
completely emotionally aware about and speak emotional stability and maturity
(15:48):
and all of those things. You have to want those
things before you seek out therapy. But I just think
across the board, the show in general should have people
going into therapy beforehand and coming out of the also
a piece of that totally, Like the production company is
to blame here, you know what I mean, Like, why
not make sure that they're all, you know, mentally stable
(16:08):
before they come on the show, and then let's make
sure they're also often too the free world.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, it wasn't mentally stable. It wasn't about being mentally stable.
It was about how do I be in a committed
relationship and not be unfaithful. That's what she had a
problem with. It wasn't about like having a problem like
with his own mental health. It was about going to
therapy and working on commitment. The level of commitment. We're
(16:36):
all adults here, like, we're all over forty, Like I
feel like we have the wherewithal to understand that. Yeah,
but I'm putting myself in Charity's position, and I'm like,
if I'm Charity, then hell yes, I'm gonna be like,
what did you do? Like, you're on a show to
get married in the end. We're not on a show
to date each other at the end. We're on a
(16:57):
show to possibly get engaged. Like that's the end, and
there are multiple other people. So if you had this
issue in a previous relationship and it broke it up,
and you know that this is a really important thing
to me to be faithful in a relationship, obviously he
didn't know that going onto the show. But if he's
(17:18):
going on to it thinking he's going to be serious
and possibly get engaged to this woman, it's just like fine,
if you didn't do anything, then then maybe don't Maybe
don't like admit to that or something, or talk about
it when you're off camera or something. But I just
feel like he just he knew about this infidelity coming
(17:42):
into the show. He found out earlier that it was
a deal breaker for her or would be a really
really hard thing to get passed for her, and then
instead of like fessing up to it and being like,
I am so sorry that I did this to this woman.
I'm so remorseful. I want to be better. I want
(18:03):
to be committed to you. I am falling in love
with you. He was like, no, we're I really think
that we need time in the fantasy suite. And he
didn't justify that. He just wanted time alone with her,
not to just have sex, do you know what I mean?
Like it was all about the delivery.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I've got something to say. Do you want to get
a guy?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So I kind of.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Agree with both of you actually in that I think
what Dianna's trying to say, which which I actually do
agree with. This part of it is a lot of
people don't necessarily go on to the show realizing that
they're going to fall in love, right, so I think
they go on to the show and you never know
the timeline, by the way, unless that was mentioned, but
I don't think you ever know the timeline of when
this happened in his relationship and when someone or he
(18:57):
submitted himself to be on the show and next thing
you know, I mean I turned around.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Time could have been a month.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Right, yeah, so he could have had this relationship split
up and then a month later all of a sudden boom,
he's on national TV, so maybe he didn't have a
chance to kind of dig into himself a little bit
and see where he was at with that whole thing.
But I was going to say, too, Trisy, You're right.
She did bring up that, you know, being faithful in
relationship was of paramount importance to her. And so he
did have a couple opportunities, especially that date in Fiji
(19:21):
when they hung out all day, that he could have
brought it up right.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
He could have been like, look, I.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Got a kind of a complicated dating history or a
complicated relationship past. This happened in my relationship, and I
did this, and I did that. You know that that
would have been a much more opportunity time, because you're right,
he would have probably not ended up on the Fantasy suite.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And you know, but.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
But then again another thing to think about too, And
I mean, you can I'd love to take this out
of the show, but it just exists.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
It's a competition show.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And I know that I know that it's not, you know,
when we think about it, the grand scheme of things,
but it is.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You hear your perspective coming from a male's perspective, because
what I was the Christ was as a woman, Right,
I had the same train of thought when I went
into the show.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It was not about a competition. To me, it wasn't
about any other things other than the fact.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
That, like, maybe I will truly meet the person that
I'm meant to be with, get engaged and.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Live happily in for after.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But I would in the defense, and maybe Bob can
speak to this, I wouldn't say that most men go
on to the show thinking that. Like, I wouldn't say
that most men are like, oh my god, see mom,
I'm about to meet my bride. Like, I don't think
that twenty something.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You know, it's funny that you say that.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Twenty years ago it was different. I mean the show
is different. The reaction of the public to the show
is different. I mean, you hear about some of these guys,
which we'll get to you later down the road, you know,
talking about endorsements before they're every event on the show. Right,
it's like in their Instagram set for their tooth whitening
kits or whenever they're gonna be puddling everyone.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
So I mean, you know you hear about that. But yeah,
like when I remember when I went on the show,
I was open to falling in love.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I was open to, you know, meeting Tristan, and thankfully
I did, you know, and we fell in love.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And we're selling me.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's how the two of you know each other.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes, no, But.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
It's so funny because when I went on a show,
it was like, you know, we went on.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
With the mindset of you know, I was like, well,
I think she's really hot. I can't wait to meet her,
you know that, I mean her, I'm like, she's super cool.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I really like her.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
But it was like our vibe and I trust to
Will attest to this because we talked.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
About it for the last hundred years now.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Our vibe was always just like really great friendship vibe.
Like it wasn't a romantic vibe. And as much as
I care about her and did that and do now,
you know, I mean, I love her, but we didn't
fall in love in that relationship way.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
And I think that you go on a show like that.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I didn't go on there with the attention of not
falling in love, but I didn't go on there with
the like I wasn't sitting at home just pining for
the weeks leading up to it, going oh my god,
I can't wait to get the show and fall in month.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
You know, I was more like, I don't know what
the hell's going on.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I'm going to show up and have a good time
and hopefully this girl's gonna be awesome, and thankfully she
was and has become a dear friend of me. So
I think that the guys nowadays, and I can only
judge this from the ones that I've met, I think
they might go on there with a different mindset than
even what we had back then, which was a lot more.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You have to say, I totally agree with that. But
at the same time, he was going to tell he
told her when she walked her to the car, when
when she walked him to the car, that he was
in love with her. So he was already there, like yeah,
I totally get that, Like, wait, you know, you're you're
trying to gauge whether or not you even like this person,
(22:23):
if you're if you want to stick around, if you
think it's worth it to bring this up in front
of America, in front of the crew, like admit your deepest,
darkest secrets. Totally understand that. But he was there, he
was at the point where he was in love with her,
and I just feel like it's a big conversation. What
really was I don't know, but he said it when
(22:45):
he when he went to the car. I don't know
if he was or not. I mean, obviously he was
heartbroken on the mentel all like he was. He was
visibly upset.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I pride myself on my brutal honesty, and it doesn't
always rub people the right way, but I like for
there to be no reading in between the lines. Right
when I left, when I was on The Bachelor, I
was so confused about what Brad had done to me
because he wasn't honest about the situation. So right on
my brutal honesty. So would I have handled it the
same way. Absolutely not. I just I'm just trying to
(23:24):
play devil's advocate and give him a little bit of
grace because we we the three of us here, have
been in that situation.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
We know how hard it be, we know what a
mind fuck it can totally be.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
There.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
No, I agree, I love as being like the maternal
person for this show. I obviously I don't. I'm not
beating him down saying you are so wrong and you like,
I feel like he was really remorseful at the Mental Hall.
He apologized. It seemed very heartfelt. You could tell that
(23:56):
he was so somber that entire time. Even when we
were on stage, he was just kind of like, take
me out of here. He was not laughing and joking around. No,
not at all vibe for him.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And I would imagine to like sitting on that stage
and sitting with Charity and having to explain where he
was at, there was probably a deep sense of regret, y'all, Like, right,
you probably realized And again, at the end of the day,
is this going to be the end of his story?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
No, He's likely going to do a lot. Oh no,
of course not.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
He's going to make someone a very wonderful husband and
fall in love and be really happy, we hope. And
I think he learned his lesson through this show. I
think he realized because he did say, you know, I
got a therapist, I want to I want to talk
through this with someone. And I think he actually matured
a lot because of the show. I'm not beating him down.
We're just discussing the like what I feel like should
(24:47):
have happened earlier, because it I do I really wish
that more people and hopefully in the future they will
will take it seriously like this. Yes, of course people
are going to come on and they're gonna want be influencers,
and they're going to want to be you know, gaining
hundreds of thousands of followers, whatever. But I just feel
like it is a show. Ultimately. I still believe this
(25:09):
about love and finding the person that you're meant to
be with it. Maybe there's a few that are in
there because they want to get famous, whatever that's going
to happen because that's the day and age that we
live in. But I really would love for people, especially
for the people who do go farther like, just to
be honest, like you're saying, like, just be honest with
(25:30):
who you are, and if you're falling for this person,
then tell them the things that you feel like are
going to be important in a relationship. And if they
have deal breakers, bring them up, like.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Have that get the testament as to who you are
as a person, like I would do.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I had a guy on my season who waited.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Until after the show was done to let me know
that he had a girlfriend up until hometown.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Dates, So like, yeah, I'm all with you, like, let's
all be.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Honest, let's all just like put it out home, stay
role all be hoes and decent human beings.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But at the end of the day, what everybody thinks
like us well, and and like you said, like show
him some grace. He's young, But like I said, I
think that he learned his lesson and I know he will,
he will find someone, he'll be happy. I loved him
throughout the show. I just I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
The people can make good people can make that decisions.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Also, maybe there are a few narcissest who walk into
a situation like that and they're like, oh, I can't.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Wait to hurt this person.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But he doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I mean, I can't imagine he spent those five days
being like, well, I can't wait to screw her over.
You know, he probably just made some bad choices. And
at the end of the day, the truth of the
matter is the relationship that he was in was probably
done anyway, if he was that tempted to be with
another human being anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I'm okay, So let's talk about our experience. So we
went out on the on stage. Is so much fun.
I loved being able to share kind of our our
wisdom and even see the packages that they put up
for each of our families. It's always so fun to
see our kids kids.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What they didn't even show my kids.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
They showed you what they did and desires, but they
didn't show No, they showed old clips of when I
was the bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So when we were on stage, they showed my pictures,
you know what I mean? Oh, yes, episode air, they
actually didn't show me with my kids. They showed old
clips of when I was a bachelorette and talking about
how it didn't work out for me.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And I was like, what is happening right now?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Because oh they did.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
They didn't show my ladies that what was happening right now.
They did the same thing for me. They showed the
clip of the wedding and then they showed just a
picture of our family. Same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, No, they didn't show any pictures of my family.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Oh they didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh I thought they did.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
They did on stage, Trista, That's what I'm saying. They
did on stage, but it did not make the cut
for the show.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's why I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
As does now I get to me as a failed
back threat? Oh it does take me a while old
gal right here anyway. So so after the show, you know,
after we're on stage, we come out and Gary comes on,
who we both freaking love. I love, I hate this, Bob,
(28:21):
let me just show you this right here. I was
willing to talk to new picture the attention that night.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I was like, all fine, specimen of men, look at
all these men, and then Gary here comes Garrety Trista
got the worst photo of me and Gary.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh my god, you look at what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You looked cute and I was about how you look.
It was totally a moment captured that he was laughing
hysterically because of something that you said. You were cracking
him up.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yes you are, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So No, I thought.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
It was that looks like.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He's pretty good looking.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
He's pretty good looking, looks like he has spent some
of his off time in Florida, so like his coloring
was off and he really blonde. But he was, like
he Bob, honestly interested will tell you the same thing.
He was the nicest guy, like he was so joyful
to be there. And if you see the mental episode
his segment, he totally is.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Just like a nice guy, like he's.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Out there jollie gee.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Guys like.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The cute and I waked. I'm blatantly flirting with him
in front of everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And I was.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Like, yes, Gary, let me know what time to be there.
I'll see you soon. I walked into the here and
makeup room and he was sitting there and I hadn't
(29:50):
met him yet, and I was like, Hi, Gary, how
are you? And I'm like, so, how is social media going?
Because as he's talked about like he doesn't know anything
about social media and he like totally over his head.
And I was like, how's it going? And he was like, oh,
it's fine. Are you from the social media crew? But
(30:12):
he had no clue who any of us were. He
literally was like, who are you? This is my show?
So I was like, no, I I was actually the
first bachelorette. And he jumped out of the hair and
makeup chair and came and gave me, gave me the
biggest hug. He was so freaking.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It is Gary. It's spelled Jerry, but it's pronounced Gary.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Yeah, Okay, he looks good.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
He does.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And you know what seventy one or something seventy one?
He like my word for him is wholesome. After meeting him,
and he's just so grounded, and I ended up going
and doing a date with him. Oh I just got back.
(31:02):
That's why I'm so tan. I went in spray tand
before I went, so, I flew to la on Friday
and flew back on Sunday and I was there for
a pickleball date with.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
All the ladies.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
It was so much fun and I got to like
have some time with him and just talk to him
about how he's feeling and everything. But I just my
word for him is wholesome. He is the grandpa that
everyone is going to be rooting for. And I have
said this, I'm sure I've said this on the show Bob,
on this podcast. I have always felt like they need
(31:38):
to pluck someone out of obscurity that we all can
fall in love with communally together as Bachelor Nation. And
thank goodness they're doing it with him because his story
is just so heartbreaking and I mean how he lost
his wife. And I just hope that everyone rallies around
(32:02):
this this season because he is so wholesome and so
everyone's deserving, but he's so deserving of a second chance
at love and just to share by somebody.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He's like West guy, Like he's like super nice and
you could tell he just sits around on eats cheese
curds and like lives.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
As best.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know what I mean. He's all around like great
nice guy and that came off.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That came off like the second you spoke to him,
like or was in his presence, like you could just
tell he was just as happy as can be, you
know what I mean. I see him people sit on
two different fences. Because I've been asking around if people
planning on watching the Golden Bachelor, you know what I mean,
because I'm super stoked for it. I would really love
to see the show go back to some of those
(32:49):
early days of the goodness genuine conversation where people were
for a social media following or or to not have
a real job in.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
So it's funny because I kind of got like a
fifty to fifty opinion from people, Like some people were
like no, heck no, I'm not really where's the drama
going to be? And also these how old are these
women going to be?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
And then the other portion, which were a lot of
people who have watched the show from you know, day one,
from Trista's days, or I don't remember the other guy's name,
but that we're saying like they were super excited to
see the show go back to its roots. That has
so off course, literally, you know, since Chris Harrison left
and some of these other I'm telling you, the older
I get, the younger they get, and it's becoming a
(33:32):
larger gap between me and any of these people on
the show.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But a lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Excited to see the show go back to hopefully some
of the basics, which was that there wasn't drama, but
just to see more wholesome content, more genuine connections between
people and not be so centered around like who's there
for the right reasons?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Right to sell T shirts? You know, just rap, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I've never seen the shows on it, so like it's
not like I'm moved home and like paparazzi were hanging
out in my bushes and noon and Georgia, like I
just are legit sometimes a little stupid saying I went
on the show for the right reasons, Like as stupid
as it sounds, a legit went on for the opportunity
to meet someone.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I don't think that's not stupid at all. That's what
the show is about, you know. So it's like I
think that's that's awesome. I mean, I think that takes
it back. And I think with Gary, I got I
wanted to say Jerry so bad, But with Gary, I
think it is going to be one of those things.
And especially now with the feedback you guys are getting,
you know, so, so we're all excited. We figure all
excite from the Golden bashlud. But I have to hear
(34:36):
because I wasn't there with you all about Braiden.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I got to hear about Braiden. Yeah, that's a feather
aaring guy. Like, what was your impression? Was he putting
on his best front with you guys? Was he flirting
with you?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Like I could just see that dude like you guys walking,
He's like hello eighties, Like I get you to see
it in my.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Life because Trista and Desiree were like, all these boys
are flirting with you and I was like, I think
I'm must be blind as a bat because I'm not
seeing it, Like I'm not sitting there with my cocktail
and my beef chest suit, and I'm all like, hello, handsome,
Hello handsome, do you need to know how to spell
my first and last name? You're cute, You're nice and tall?
Like I literally was like just eating it up. But yeah,
(35:16):
he was sly learning and it was awesome. No, So
we were backstage just hanging out with you know, the
directors and producers and stuff, just kind of catching up
with people we haven't seen in a while. And the
show ends, the guys come out, and I do remember
Brandon was the first guy that came up to us,
(35:37):
And had I not ever seen him on any show,
I would say that guy is so sweet and he
was just very friendly and very respectful, like there was
there would have been no inclination about any kind of drama. None.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Right, I feel like I'm a pretty such aster.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Tore up on the show.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
The difference being Bob is like we didn't watch the show.
We literally were like three girls in our green room
just catching up about life and talking about our kids
and sharing pictures and just you know, being the friends
that we are. So when we went on stage, we
actually did not have the opportunity on stage to interact
with the guys.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
They sat off to our left, and you know, because
we're cheated looking at Jesse, we really didn't. You don't
even see them there, to be honest, So it wasn't
until afterwards when they all came out. And because I
watched the episode, I have an appreciation for him because
I have this skill to be so very honest. And
(36:45):
I actually thought, even when I watched the episode of
the Mental All, that he did a really good job
of explaining himself. Now, I think there were pieces of
the show where he likely got caught up. When you're
watching the season, he came off as a little bit
of a d bag, bragging about his all kinds of stuff,
and nobody likes a guy who kisses and tells. Just
so we're all on the same way, yeah, no one
likes that. Don't brag about how far you got. Don't
(37:06):
brag about how long. No one wants to hear that. Like,
be an adult about it, be an adult, a man,
a grown man. But I do think that when he
was on stage and discussing his persona and his personality
and who he is, I did a really good job
on stage of being like, hey, I didn't handle this
the best way. But like, I am me to my core,
(37:28):
and Tristan knows this because she's been walking alongside me
for several years now as I've gone through what has
been the most difficult time of my entire life. And
in the day, I am me to my core, and
I shouldn't apologize for that. We are meant in life
to have relationships, to refine us, to help us grow
(37:48):
to be better, we hope, right. But like, at the
end of the day, I can't apologize for being an
incredibly human being, right And I'm not a glass half
full kind of person. And it's not because I don't
want to beat It's because I was never given that opportunity.
I've had a very difficult life getting to this point.
But I am loyal and loyal to a fault to myself,
(38:09):
and I am kind and I am honest, and I
am willing to walk through the hard shit as deep
as it gets to drag him. Ever, I have to
to get out on the other side, and I will
not apologize for that. So there is this huge piece
of my heart that appreciated that even though he really
was getting beat down on stage, I'm already carrying him
(38:30):
apart down to his scarf ashrings, to his personality, to
everything that. I thought he did a really good job
of standing firm and who he is, and I appreciate
that one hundred.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I totally agree with everything you said. I think that
another person could have very well, gotten really frustrated and
gotten mad and was towarded, you know, and said mean
things back to the guys. But he was so calm,
cool and collected and not in a way that it
felt like it was disingenuous. It just felt like he's like,
(39:00):
you know what, I'm not going to be able to
change these guys' minds. I'm sorry for the way that
I treated Charity. I could have handled that better, and
you know, we're moving on and that's that. And he
even apologized to Charity you know too, like they're during
their conversation. I thought, actually the more disrespectful one was
when Sean was like, can I come up there? And
(39:26):
I'm like, okay, I get it. But if he had
something that he was like, I want to give you
a hug, or he didn't do anything like that, he
just wanted to be up there. That felt more disingenuine
to me. And he was further on in the show
that felt more disingenuine to me than some of the
other guys who really respectfully sat in their chairs and
(39:48):
owned up to some of their pieces on the show.
And maybe they're disrespected how they handled certain situations that
felt more disingenuine to me. And I'm not saying he
was trying to be. It just felt that way to me.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
And I was gonna ask you about that, because you know,
you need to the note of the way the.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Show went, and it's like he's got the most to say,
like you're not invited, Braden. It's like, but you don't
make the guest list, right, It's like everything I was
reading about it, I'm like, who is Sean?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
So I had to go back and actually figure out
who he was. So I was going to ask you
about him. So, so you guys felt like he kind
of just inserted himself to.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Get a streams watching the show back are interacting with him.
I think he was one of the ones that came
up and said hi after when you were back.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
That I was going to say was I'm a pretty
good judge of character, Like off the bat, I just
really can read people well. And Trista to your to
your sentiment. I think the same thing. When he walked up,
you get a really good vibe from him. He feels
very genuine. He the guys were being weird, Bob, I'm
joking around aout how much I was sporting with them.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they were all.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Respectful to their elders. None of them were weird or
rude in any way, none of them or inappropriate. Like
they all you could just tell, like if they didn't
know who we were, they knew then, and they were
all very kind in the way that they addressed us,
hugged us, said hello, that it was a pleasure to
the kids, told us we were beautiful. You know what
(41:08):
a bunch of three older women want to hear.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You know what I mean, Like, he was the first
one out of the gate, and I just thought he
seems like a warm outside of this, like a really
warm and genuine human being.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I got a really you mean Brandon, Yeah, I agree.
And then I also I want to say, Adam, I
don't remember him. I don't remember him walking up to me,
I don't remember hugging him. I don't remember him to
anybody else. So I know you do you remember. But
before I get to that, I want to say, Michael,
who's the yacht captain? He had like a gray a
green uh like over sports code on. He came up
(41:44):
to me and I don't know if he if he
came up to you too. He gave me the biggest hug,
but it like kind of took my breath away because
it was so strong. I was like, I mean, I
have not had any like physical in a very long time.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
So I was like taking all the hugs. I'm like,
possibly he too.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I'm like Christa is a lot smaller than me.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
She's cropful, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Like I was looking for a good bear hug to
just make sure I can remember what it feels like
a man.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Those guys, those captains.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So one of them came up to us and he
was talking to us, and it ended up being the firefighter.
I was talking to him a little bit about how
Ryan was a firefighter, and there was one guy on
my seat. Who's the firefighter? Guy, Bob, you can tell
me did I let go the first night? Oh? Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Hang on.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
He's a guy I met in at the Dirty.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Or something, right. I was trying to remember his name.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Billy Billy Bill, Billy Billy.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Polta, so I couldn't remember his name, and I feel
like they might have been at the same station at
one point. But anyway, so we were talking about that
and then he went and he brought roses for each
of us. He was handing all of us roses. But
I have a feeling I think this is the one
that and I even I think you said it earlier,
the hottie. I only remember the hottie that's what wearing
(43:13):
all white, and he had the he had I don't
want to call it audacity, but he had the uh
guts to like, like, the three of us haven't received
enough roses, and.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Could you be original, but also give me your phone number.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
He did.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Bobby totally went and found three red roses and started
handing them out to the three of us and we
were like, oh cute, but we've got a few things, Matt,
and then he ran away like a scared child.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
He was like, okay, by I see you all later.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Had this original idea.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, no, if there's if there's any if there's any
guy from the mentel all that, I feel like maybe
Gianna had a little a little uh vibe vibe wit.
It was definitely Aaron, though I was trying to make
eye contact. I was trying to look in his direction.
(44:11):
Scared scared him, He scared. He cannot handle this forty
one year old grown ass woman. He's what has not happened?
I'm not getting any of them sliding into my DM.
So I clearly made a big impression.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I want to thank you, guys. I feel like I
was at the episode with you. I feel like I
was there writing at a little bird's idea of what
it was like. First of all, I'm so glad they
brought you both back. I mean and as three of
my favorites of all time obviously from this show, but
I think in general two just three perfect personalities have
on that show and kind of help Charity a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
So great job, ladies.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Thank you yeah tomorrow, Trista. But let's do it again tomorrow.
I know, right every week, because I would love just
I don't know about you, guys, but it's it's just
good energy. I love the energy. When I returned to
the show, you know, it's it's just.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I was literally pitching everything because Ryan and Trista have
their twenty year anniversary coming up, and I'm all to
like Rob Mills, I'm like, listen, can you please do
like a vowel renewal so that we can all get
together again and have so much fun.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Core memories of fun weddings.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Of people where you all just get to be together
and have the best time ever. So I literally was
like pitching Tristan Ryan's vow renewal to be taped by ABC,
and I'm like, we really just need a good excuse
to like get together.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
On an island, somewhere.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
On an island, please ago, We're trying to go next
Trista some tropical island, Like, just just send me there,
pay for my flight whatever, I'll be there. Okay, thank
you for being here today and recapping the men tell all,
(45:59):
it was just such a pleasure to see you in
person obviously, always always makes me happy, and we do
get to have you for another episode, so I know,
two for one part two. Thanks everybody for tuning in
to Almost Famous Ogs with Me, Trista.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
Setter and Me, Bob Getty and today with Jan Stage
as well. Okay,
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