January 30, 2025 • 56 mins
Trista Sutter is ready to recap season 3 episode 4 of Special Forces, and she brought fellow recruit Christy Carlson Romano along for the ride!
Christy shares what happens behind the scenes after a mentally and physically exhausting task, and we find out why she was hanging out with Dwayne “The Rock”.
Plus, we hear about why therapists are as important as medics on set, and Christy clears the air on how she looked in the final edit!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to Almost Famous Ogs.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's Trista.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Bob is playing in a pebble beach Carmel without me
at a golf tournament, which I'm having major fomo about.
But the only thing making it better is that Christy
Carlson Romano is here as my co host to talk
all the Special Forces recap and tee and all the things.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But when I was texting you last night, so a
little a little background, I was watching the show, of course,
and all of a sudden, like three quarters of the
way through, almost three quarters of the way through, the
plane and helicopter crash happened, which, oh my gosh, it
(00:53):
is such a horrible story, like I so awful. I
just I just can imagine and think about it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Our first episode was the fires, and the fire coverage
on the West coast got cut out due to fires.
So it's been a really wild I mean, just these
few weeks. January has still not ended. I just want
to point that out.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I want it to be done.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, we need to move on, Lordie.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We've had enough drama in chaos for the whole year,
so yes, So I got cut off and I didn't
get to watch it, and so I waited until this morning, yeah,
for it to come out on Hulu. I text you
and I'm like, I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You made it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And then like two seconds later on the show, she
gets her arm bandfold, so I'm like, I'm she and
you didn't respond to me, and I was like, oh crap,
what's happening. And you're usually so good about it, and
I was like, oh no, did I say something wrong?
And then I saw the show this morning and I
was like, well, hello, I totally said, well, you should
(02:03):
be so proud, and then it was like the moment
that you got pulled from the show. So I'm so
sorry that I was clearly obtuse and just an idiot.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I honestly thought, because you are so supportive that you
had seen it and you were already just being like, hey,
you made it that far and just to be proud,
because I don't think that the sentiment changes. And it's
been a really kind of very introspective twelve hours I think,
from you know, it hasn't probably even been twelve hours.
(02:34):
My daughter in the middle of the night got a
fever because flu's going around right now.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh yeah, Ryan's been sick for like a week.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And I think a hundred kids were out at the
school yesterday because of flu. Oh that's a lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Watch out for that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's the January flu. Let's just call it back. Yeah,
since this is this is what's happening. But she's she'll
be okay. It was just it's funny how I've seen
this meme or you know, funny reels that us moms
they send each other. I should start sending you some
to I'm yes, please, okay, good you're you're on the
short list now. But you know, we send send each
(03:17):
other stuff. And one of the funny things is when
you're having an emotional breakdown as a mom, but then
you stop because your child comes in and asks you
to open a bag of snacks. I'll send you that one.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So that's how it felt last night.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's how it felt last night when I was like,
you know, like a little emo or whatever, and then
like my daughter comes in and she's like, you know,
it's it's about four in the morning, and uh, we
wake up at six or so, you know, to get
ready for school, and there's something in you that just
hones in on, Okay, this is what my life is,
you know, like the reality and the purpose and and
(03:55):
and and it's it's it's a it's a service. You
know that moms have. We we activate and we take
care of our babies. So I think that that kind
of delayed any more grieving that I've had, you know,
on trying to think about what went down. So I'm
actually curious how you I mean, if do you want
to how we how do you do this? On your pod?
(04:15):
You go from the beginning of a show.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
From the from the beginning, but since you're here, like,
I want to know about how you're feeling to start
and and I will say, I mean, even though I
was only there for two days, you put it perfectly grieving,
Like I feel like you're grieving. You're not, Like my
decision was my decision. They obviously pulled your armband so
(04:41):
that it was very different. But tell me what you're grieving,
because if people normally think of grieving as a loss
or a death or you know, something like that, but
I feel like it's very similar. And I feel like
I've kind of gone through through the stages of grief
(05:02):
in a way like being you know, at Pea, I
was at peace to start. Maybe I went backwards. Maybe
I went through it backwards and then I was like
I got home and I'm like, wait, what did I
just do?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Kyla felt the same way, and Kyla spoiler alert, was
also eliminated, although she quit so I felt like she
had a very similar thing to you Trista, where you know,
she was this tiny girl and she had made it
so far. She actually, and I don't want to speak
for her, but she's very vocal about this. She kind
of wanted to quit that morning, but kind of got
(05:35):
rushed into the morning events of like get your pack,
get your this gate, and she was trying to find
a time to make it happen. She said she even
went to the rock like you did, and Q was
like we're busy, like go away, So it wasn't the
right time and then she essentially was just like I
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
She was trying, but then she's like no. And when
we went.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Through it the night before, right, yeah, you know, I
think they were really thinking one of us would break,
and clearly they didn't know that the Disney girls are
you know, we're pretty resilient Mickey Mouse, Like, you know,
we're tough, like that gang gang. But she's so great though,
(06:19):
because we also have a sense of humor, which I
think really brought you through the pain and your hypothermia
to still feel so good about your experience. And then
you know, her and I then had been making jokes
and trying to keep it light. And you know, this
is the episode that you see just how real this
show gets, just how serious the show actually is. For
(06:43):
like the next you know, this episode in the next
episode is even more serious.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, it's crazy. So tell me your thought process and
on why you think it's grieving and what you're grieving.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Absolutely, I will sometimes your audience is gonna have to
bear with your co host today because I do talk
around topics. Maybe they're nice though, maybe you have really
sweet and patient because they are they must because they
know you and they love you, so you have to
love me and listen.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We're if even if we had like a script of
what we're going to talk about, it does not have
to go by the script. That's the beauty of our podcast.
That's the beauty of most most podcasts. But for now, like, yeah,
let's we're just chatting. We're just chatting, chat.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
All right, So I I you're right, it's very hard
to put a word to what a contestant on the
show experience is after and I think that that's why
production allows for you to have mental health access afterwards.
They've checked in with us periodically, and I've commended Fox
as well as Minno to sort of allocate the budget
(07:49):
to make sure that we're all good and that they
don't have to really, I don't feel like they have
to do that, and certainly and other sets I've been in,
they they haven't thought that way. So it's kind of like, well,
this is a nice surprise that I have access to
this for the first time. That being said, I mean
the therapist wasn't really there. I think there was a
(08:11):
couple therapists that would watch us around the clock, right, Trisa, yep.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, Because when you finish your exit interview, when you
leave the show, you do an exit interview on camera,
and then you go and you talk to the psychologist
and you make sure that everything's okay if there's anything
you want to share. And when I was doing my
exit interview with the psychologist, I was sitting at her desk,
and she had like she had a whole all the
(08:36):
cameras were on, so she was watching what was happening.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
She had like a bunch of them shows a bunch
of times. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She was watching everything happened and listening to everything that
we were saying, not just to the DS but everything
that was recorded, so they know the psychologists are totally
tuned in to what's happening on the show in real time.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Of course, of course, and I think even just for
liability's sake, that makes a ton of sense. But then
the after care element of the show, I do think
is it. I actually think I will because I have
access to it, just reach out to the lady, because
why not, Like therapy is expensive and if I can
get some free therapy, Like I'm a good it, I'm got.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
To go call.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm going to give you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm going to give you one one little bit of
a learning lesson that I've learned from this, and that
is yes, one hundred percent, talk to the psychologist. But
after I interviewed Rudy and Billy, I was like, everyone
needs to talk to them to get some kind of closure.
(09:42):
So I don't know if there's a way that you
can reach out. I know Rudy is great, I know
you have your You've talked to Q, like, yeah, I
feel like just call them up honestly or DM them
and say, hey, could we have a conversation that's just
you know, me to you and meet all the cast,
like I feel like they need to build that into
(10:03):
the show is for all of us to like, each
person should have like a debriefing or whatever you want
to call it after you're finished with the show and
just connect with them, because it really, truly it felt
like closure to me. I don't know. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I love that. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And each of us had the person that came down
on us the hardest. For me, it happened to be
Billy and years was cute. And I know that you
guys connected on the pod in another episode which you
should go you should go listen to if you haven't
heard it. Thanks Kirstie. Yeah, and it must have been.
I wonder how it was Bob there when you talked
(10:43):
to Q, and was that cathartic.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It was very cathartic. Bob was there and we just
laughed a lot. And I feel like you know this
laughter just helps with healing. I don't know, it's just magic.
So I feel like it was a great way to
really see him as a human, you know, and not
just not I know they're directing staff, that's what d
(11:07):
S stands for, but everyone wants to call him drill sergeants.
And that's kind of what he was at me, like,
yelling at me, like a drill sergeant. So I could
see him as a human more than a drill sergeant.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay. So the one thing that I will say that
I felt like was a little tricky was that they
actually re edited. Am I even allowed to say this? Like,
I don't even know?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Okay, yes, base, And it's not disparaging the show.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's the it's a it's a choice cut. I mean,
they do the most beautiful edits on these shows to
keep people entertained. And you know, Day two, Kylo was
telling me, she's like, this is a TV show. This
isn't like we're not actually doing this, this is this
is a structured show for us, and so we and
so she was thinking of it in a different way,
and I was lost in the sauce I.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Was really thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I was like in it, I don't know what I
guess because my husband got to me. So when I
watched it back this last episode, it shocked me that,
you know, my interrogation was about day three or four.
I really don't remember, a lot of those days started
to blur together, but it was early on that I
had been interrogated, and so they had to re edit it.
(12:12):
And so I understand the flow and you know, just
production in general. But what I'll say is, you know,
I was struggling without an interrogation, and the way that
we had the edit delivered was such that it felt
like they really encouraged me at like the last hour
of my contribution in the show. And so that's cool, Like,
(12:34):
don't I don't take offense to it, but it is.
It is a lot of things really are out of sequence,
and it's for this, and it's for the plot. It's
for the storyline of like hey, Christy. Without Kyla, then
I would naturally be the weakest person. Also I think
oldest besides yeah, because Carrie's gone, so I was the
oldest at forty standing there.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Okay, So part of my reconciliation with how I left
was that I missed the fight. Like obviously I missed
all of this. But the next day is when you
guys did the fighting and the submersion in the boat,
and I thought, well, thank god I didn't fight, because
so many people broke noses, ribs, everything and had to leave,
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and that could have been me.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my god, we could have thought, we could have
thought each other.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Sad.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So what helps me reconcile my leaving also is that
I got to miss out on that is any part
of you thankful that you left when you did because
of what they did after you left.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'll tell you this, I think mentally okay, So speaking
of the therapy session out of you know, when you leave,
I was and maybe he was just telling me what
I wanted to hear, but I just don't think the
therapists need to do that to you. You know. At
that point, he was very sweet and he was like, look,
you know it was we were all kind of bummed
in the Truman Show whatever room with all the TVs
(14:14):
when he took your armband, and we really felt like,
if you could somehow make it through today, that you
would do really well with the mental stuff with interrogation.
And who's to say that that is the case, because
I look at it now, I'm like, oh man, Calorically,
I was starving. I was also stressed. So I don't
(14:35):
know if you're like me, but I was not eating
the little raw eggs and the whatever crap they were
given to us. I was like, yeah, I think I'm
just too nervous. I felt like a sitting duck. Regardless mentally,
I was in it to win it, So I do
think interrogation wise, I would have been like, do whatever
you want to me, you know what I mean, like,
I'll just push it, push it out of my mind
and keep going whatever. You know. I guess that's how
(14:58):
I'm feeling now. It was a finta pastic episode though,
right Like it was fantastic, Like, honestly, so I was
catching up on it right before this, and I had
it on the screen and Ryan was about to take
CODEA for a walk and he was just.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Standing there with his AirPods in with his coat on,
like he couldn't leave.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He's like, this is so riveting. Yeah, this show you
cannot look away from. You cannot look away from it
once it's on.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, And honestly, like, there are just little things that
that I'm always blown away by that. I'm like, oh,
that's funny. The bugs, did you see? I mean, how
could you not freaking see all of the bugs flying
all over Billy and anyone who was ready during the
breakman thing?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
No, I do. Oh, oh my god, Christy, they were
so bad.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So when we did the bridge the first day or
the second day or whatever, the bugs were bad, but
it hadn't just rained, and they weren't as bad as
last night. You need to go back and see, like
they are swarming all around them, and I'm like, oh
my god, they're at the bottom waiting for waiting to
(16:09):
break people and save their life essentially, and all these
bugs are all around and I was like.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I wouldn't have been able to do it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I would not have been able to focus on anything
except the fact that bugs are like eating me alive.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And I'm sure Billy didn't
even blink because he's tough. No, he's blink at all.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And Cam is like, you know, actually blinking and like
trying to keep.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Them out of his eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I don't know that was that was a freaky thing
to me. Okay, let's go back to the first part
of the episode. So the first part of the episode.
Your rock is not or your burkin is not burkin, bergen,
bergen whatever, it's yeah bergen.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Denise, Yeah, Denise called it a burkin.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I thought that it was hilarious. Let's call it a burgen.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So it is.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Not full.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So let's tell people what we had to what we
had to do with our Burgans to make sure that
they were ready.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So they gave us sandbags, and they gave us a
pile of sand, but that pile of sand was outside,
and so it would get wet and you would essentially
locate the sand, put it in the bag, and then
stuff your bag so that it wouldquote unquote make weight.
And that weight was I forget was it twenty twenty
pounds or no.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The entirety five? What is it thirty? It was like
thirty thirty five? Okay, so that's what we well, thirty
five pounds, not kilograms or whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
We Yeah, yeah, that also didn't help.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think it was fifteen. It was fifteen kilograms. I
think I think fifteen was the number. Oh and I
just saw I wore this in honor of you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You still have it. I still have it. I proposed
to you.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I know, so I told Christy I felt naked without
my ring. I didn't have my ring on because I
wear it every day. And Christy was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I have an extra one.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Do you want one? She's like do you want light
pink or whatever? And I was like, well, duh, Pink's
my color. So I have your ring on. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So they didn't get that because I remember being like,
will you take this ring? Because she was like a
bachelor throwback. I was trying to be cute. You got me, Yeah,
thank you. I was so so sweet. I totally forgot
about that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was so fun, right, Okay, so I think it
was fifteen we had we had there was like a
little hanging scale thing you had to hang your ruck
on there and weigh it.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yep, it was all chaotic that day.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I felt like, did you have a chance to weigh
it or were you guys still like on top of
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
At that point, I think we did start to worry
about our appearance more because they said we needed to
all be uniform. So in this episode you can actually
hear Carrie say jackets on because if one person was
going to have a jacket, everybody wanted a jacket, but
some of the guys were really hot in whatever they
had underneath, but we all decided for the women that
they would wear jackets. So on the last go we
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all have the jackets and the hats so that we
could stay because we were like, somebody's gonna get wet,
et cetera. So that became. You know, there's always so
many things that you have to think about in order
to not to evade the DS and sort of hope
that you don't get on their radar. And unfortunately, I
(19:43):
was probably one of the most screw I hate to
say anything definitive because then the internet is like, she's
so impressed with herself. But the truth is is that
I didn't bring the thera gun, and I didn't stow
like food or snacks, and I and Cam this is
not actually shown, but that's same day we got punished
again inside the barracks by Q, where we had to
(20:06):
stand against the wall, bend and knee and he was
checking our our racks to see if we were storing
anything that wasn't approved, and so a lot of people
had things and Q actually read Golden's diary and they
kind of had it back and forth with that because
(20:26):
he had said some mean things about DS and his diary.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm sorry, but he read the dot that doesn't seem well.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think at that point with day seven, Day eight,
they really are starting to it's a whole other level
of show. It's not even the same show. It's like
the first and sort of second part of it. And
so they it starts to get very personal. And from
what I know with the Hubsbyan who the vet of
the world, he's like they, if this was real, they'd
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be screaming in your face all day long until you
passed out, right. So this was nothing compared to what
would really happen. But Q really did give us a
taste of like you have to be to code, you know.
And so that same moment he hopped over to Cam,
he hopped over to me. And I had nothing in
that was not approved by production because I just didn't
(21:15):
want to be the one. And sometimes i'd suffer, Like
I'd look over at Alana and she had these beautiful
like face oils, and she'd be like rubbing her face
and I'm like, she looks so beautiful, and she'd like
put the same like a hoble oil or whatever like
on her hair and she looks pretty, and I was like,
and she's got this great butt, like if you look
at her Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh no, I literally I think right after we were
allowed to start following each other. Yeah, I went, I
went on everyone's you know thing, and started following. And
the first thing I said to her was, oh my god,
your ass is.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Her peach, her peach tush holes, her peach tush. Yeah,
and she just like she I remember us changing because
we had to change in front of each other, and
I was very shy, Like we're talking like I brought
like pea panties that literally went like down to almost
my knee, and I was just so nomous.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I'm very shy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
My husband was like, make sure you don't get into
any weird situations with any of these, Like, yeah, do.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You mean pea panties? What are pea plant got?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I literally, cause you know, we're moms. Like, I have
a little bit of a problem with this, and I'll
probably get it fixed or whatever, but it's been something
that I've always battled with, and you know, I was like,
I don't know what they're going to put us through,
but if I have any like leaks or anything, like
I don't want to be gross. Oh yeah, I also
had my period when we first got there. No, you
did not, Yep, I had my prien I thought about that.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So I have not had a period since my daughter
was born because I had to have an oblasion. But
I was wondering because you know how when women all
get together then they sync up, and I'm like, if
one person gets it, then probably everyone will. You had it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
A couple of us had it, and I won't say who,
but a couple of us had it, and I just
so happened to have all the things. Like I was
like ready to go because I knew like clockwork, but
what was going to happen and how long? I thought
maybe the stress of me training and just being being
in a different country and time zone would would make
it go away. I think I even spoke to the
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medical people prior and was like, hey, is there anything
we can take? And he's like, well, there is something
in the field that women take to make them not
have their period or something, and I was like really,
I said, no, I'll have it. It's fine, it is
what it is.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, true true story. Like what did you do though?
Because when can you freaking change a DAMPI I.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Know, tell me about it, Tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We all had to get very creative and then by
of course, in a couple of days it was over.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But yeah, that was not fun. I was like, I
was like hiding.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Tampons like in my bergen and in my pocket of
whatever I was wearing, and I was like handing them
to other people.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Like here, do you want this?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Because I also didn't want to like blow their spot
up in front of these cameras. It was my first
reality show, totally, I was I thought I knew.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I thought I knew what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You did, Obviously you were good, So back to you.
Guys got punished for people stowing snacks and contraband. Essentially,
it wasn't just that.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
My bag was overweight. It was also that he went
into the We were just messy all the way around.
And the other thing about I'll say about the sand,
And this isn't to justify the error that I committed,
so to speak, but you know, the sand when it's wet,
it weighs heavier. When it dries totally lighter. So I
actually do find it really interesting because I did fill
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my bag pretty consistently when Carrie would go out and
do it. I'm like, I'm gonna do what carry does
because he knew what to do, and I would just
follow him around sometimes like a puppy dog.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It was hard not to. I mean, the man just
knows what he's right.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He's a leader, He's a natural leader.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's a gem of a man. And it did break
my heart when when he got into it broke my.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Heart, I know, I literally was like, so when I
interviewed DS Rudy and DS Billy, they said, you know,
be proud of yourself. You left when you did. You
could have left like tripping over you know, like a chord,
just doing it one of the tasks, but just tripping
over something like not even related to the task. And
(25:20):
I remembered. I was like, oh my god, yes that's Carrie.
And it happened last night. I was like, Ryan, here
it comes. He's he's gonna fall, and he fell right then.
I felt horrible. And the fact that the four DS
walked into the medic room and said goodbye to him,
that just I mean, that shows everybody that he really
(25:42):
was so respected and looked up to during that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Man the DS just got so I feel like it
must have pissed them off so much that me and
Kyla didn't quit that night, and they were just like
God damn it, because then they're like, we lost Carrie
and now we still got these two buffoons, as they
like to call us. I'm like, duping. I'm like, I'm
not leaving. Are you leaving? And She's like, I'm not
leaving right now. I'll leave tomorrow, but I'm not leaving now.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
And I was like yeah, yeah, me too, Yeah yeah,
oh okay.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So we talked about the okay, okay, your your bag,
and then the fact that basically you guys were like,
you know, chaotic.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And there was other reasons that we were punished. I
just want to make it clear that it wasn't exclusively
my bergin. And also, I don't know if you can tell,
but nobody else saw me or even Kyla as the
weakest link. I mean, you got the strongest person there
cam talking to Kyla saying, baby, you got this, you
just keep going. And then you've got him trying to
support me. He was you didn't even see like he
took our bags and he did this, and especially when
(26:48):
I was dealing with that rock, because there was some
times when he's like this isn't right. He said that
to me, He's like, this isn't right, and so he
would help me with the bags. The day I had
the rock, there was actually a really funny moment it
did not get captured.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
When I had the rock in my bag and I looked.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
At Q before U gosh, it must have been once
we got up there for the.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
The line, the moving the line.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The Tyroullian something Tyrolean traverse is what it's called, I think.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
And I had the rock in my bag and I
looked at Q and I he's he's obviously such a
kidd and sometimes you'll catch them off guard because they're
so stoic and strong. But I'd like to I'd like
to try to catch them off guard at that point.
Uh And I said, uh I, uh, Staff, I have
a name for my my rock because I I know,
(27:39):
I knew that if they wanted to break me, I
wanted to show them I still had a sense of humor.
I said, I have a name for my rock, Staff
and he was like, what is it? Recruit and I
was like, it's Dwayne the rock Bergen.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
No, I know what I'm getting you for your birthday
a little.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Or do you get me a rock with an eyebrow
on it?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh my gosh, that is awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I love the behind the scenes moments that we don't
get to see.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I think that's why it's fun to have the podcast
and for you to be the right person. And you know,
Golden also has his podcast where he's he's coming at
it from an athletic perspective and it is so interesting.
Each person's experience of it is reflective. I think of
the conversations they have with Dyes, the reason they even
took the contract. Like I see Marion Jones and she's
(28:35):
doing such a great job of, you know, proving why
she's her greatness is not questionable, you know, and how
she's survived through things and is on the other side,
and I really loved her. There were some people that
really like you were the first person that really kind
(28:56):
of messed with morale when you left. Marion was definitely
for the women, I would say when she left, I
think we all felt that, and then when Carrie did,
it was like Jesus, what are we all gonna do now?
We kind of like you. The air in the room
was sucked out as soon as Carrie was like shaking
(29:18):
a week. It was like seeing your dad, like shaking
a week.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yes, your mentor like someone you look up to. I
mean he was. I know, everyone went to him with
questions and tried to garner that support from him, and
you know, same thing I've talked about it, Cam was
that for me too. He was kind of like, I'm
going to carry your bag when he came back and
got me at the beach, when he was like, don't
(29:44):
you come and get her and he was like whatever,
I'm gonna go help her with her bag and get
her into this vehicle. So no, I'm so glad that
he continued to do that, and I assumed Golden too.
You know, I feel like it is such teamwork. That's
I love this part of the show and part of me.
(30:06):
Like before I went, I really wanted to make it
to the end, but also my I had little goals.
I wanted to get to an interrogation. I wanted to
get to the point where you're writing the death letters.
I wanted to, you know, get to those little increments.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, what made you want to get to interrogation? I'm curious,
just why does everyone I mean, then to connect.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Just to connect. So connection to me is what Leffett
life is all about, and connecting with the DS. In
watching the previous seasons, I felt like the interrogation, not
the interrogation, it's the mirror room, you know, interrogation to me.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You did get interrogated, did you not.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I did get a mirror room. Yeah, they didn't show it,
but I but I did get it. So I was
thankful for that because I know, like Ali didn't get one,
and I, well, I think everybody else did. But yeah,
I was thankful for that because of that connection with
the DS. They just get to know you on a
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personal level and not like where they're looking like you're
not looking up at them or they're not looking down
at you. You're looking just across the table at each other,
you know, as humans. So that's how I felt like
the mirror room was.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
That's great, and you.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Had I'm thankful that they did show your mirror room.
But you're right, like Kayla's mirror room was shown or
part of it was shown in the first episode. I
feel like, so the two hours, so I don't know
if it was actually the first or the second, but
when they show her coming back from her mirror room.
My cot was already gone. If you notice, my cot
(31:45):
was gone, So that was definitely after I had left.
She had her mirror room. So you're right, like, they
are definitely not showing you in order what's happening. So
I like that you clarified that the mirror room that
you that was shown for you was earlier on and
you didn't really have that.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Like support reportive dialogue. I did not.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
In fact, like I was shocked after the coffin that
they didn't try to pull me in and be like, hey.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like are you are you good? Because that was insane.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, you were crying the whole time, weren't you.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So here's the thing, Actually, I wasn't crying.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
They looped. They looped a lot of that because I
think I was singing the Bluey theme song pretty much.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Okay, do you want to see.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
What I did? Maybe we could make this an asset.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Okay, Oh my god, yes, I was like, mom oh
that's what I actually did.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So in Katrina, who was the producer, she said that
they were all texting each other and they're like, what
is she singing?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Because they don't have Bluey in the UK.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
In the UK and so so many goes. I think
it's the bluey theist.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh my god, you know what, I have a song,
a song story, so before the show in a way
to prepare, like I thought, if I got to the
(33:34):
torture end, like the end of it when they're torturing you,
I was like, there's only so much you can like
talk to yourself in positive terms, the mantras, you know,
the everything, And I was like, I need to have
a song that I can just sing on a loop
to myself over and over again. Yep. And my song
was uh American pie.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Ooh, that's a good one. Mine was because I.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Know every word and like song so long.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh that's so smart. That's so smart. And we're and
we're very aligned because mine was going to be, oh
my gosh, back to life, back to Reality. That was
gonna be mine in there, but it probably would have
ended up but it probably would have ended up being
the blue theme song again.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
No, no, you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Know how they asked us what our song would be
it like when we're entering the course, you know, like
exiting or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yours should have like back to life.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Back to reality, Like you should have used that on
a reel for for when you were finished with the show.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Exactly, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Exactly, And I posted, you know, I posted.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Our our back to life, back to reality with Kyla
and I are little Oh you did, yes, our little
fun thing. And I don't know if I'm jumping ahead,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Sure we could talk about but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
But yeah, I think, you know, I did think that
maybe they would check in with me after the coffin,
and so since they hadn't done that, and I don't
know what day that happened, but I think the day
before might have been the I don't even know honestly
what day that my teriation actually happened, but you know,
I was kind of kind of struggling. They were right
my head. My head might have been down. I can
(35:22):
see that. I was definitely kind of like when we
go on these missions, there's always an extra step that
they didn't explain to us, that's totally and so I
started to really try to process on the go and
my face has no filter, and so I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
At it and I'm like, oh, she's thinking hard.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yep, I could see it.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I could see it. I'm sure you were like, oh,
I know exactly what's going on in that girl's mind.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeap, yep, right, okay, So you have the rock, you
have to pick up the rock, you have to put
the rock in your backpack. And how much do you
you said it was probably like one hundred and fifty pounds.
Oh no, no, fifty or wait it was fifty pounds.
Fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I think the pound made my burgin fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
That is crazy, Yeah, that's crazy. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And I also picked up a rock that was too tiny,
and Q had me go get another rock that was
the right size. So they didn't show.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That party the right size. Okay, so all of the
girls in going back to the recap, all of the
girls didn't. It didn't pass. I cannot find my words today.
They didn't pass the Tyrolean like traverse thing. How are
(36:43):
you feeling doing that challenge? Like? Was it fun? Was
it scary? Was it something that you were excited to do?
I know that some of the things we've talked about,
like you know, the helicopter, like it was exhilarating in
a way. How are you feel with that challenge?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean I had a lot of wins and I
knew that, and then when they paired me up with Cam,
I thought that I was I thought I was in
good shape. Like I was like, Cam's got my back,
and he would talk to me and say, you know,
get out of your head and just do it. And
so that's where I was at with it. He was like,
get out of your head and let's just do this.
But the thing about this Trillian traverse or terrass, yeah,
(37:22):
what is it traverse? Was that youse, you don't hook
your feet as tightly as you think you need to.
So my leg got a massive bruise behind the knee
because I linked my my leg and I just because
I thought when I watched Rudy that that he kind
of crossed the feet. But you really got to be
(37:42):
so almost like a ballet dancer when you're like gently
and gracefully going. So that was something that you know,
experience would teach you. But uh, in terms of the
women not being able to hold themselves up right like that,
I truly don't think women are built too unless are
fitness focused folks. I don't know anyone, any female on
(38:06):
our on our recruit team that could have even I
know that Kayla is so so so so so so strong.
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But at that point, you know, you're you're pulling yourself
and I assume there's some pulling involved, so your.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Hands have already got to be like.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You know, so tired from pulling yourself across the rope.
And I was saying to Ryan because he did Fear
Factor back in the day and they did do like
a traverse like that. Oh they did, and they did,
and he was like, that's really hard, and he's like
they have to go a really long way. He's like,
on Fear Factor, we did like half of that or
(38:44):
a quarter of that. So I know that it's like
your hands like have got to be so tired and
then you have to hang afterwards. So yeah, I that
seemed really really hard to me, although from your couch,
I know for people it probably looked easier than it
(39:04):
actually is, which I think all of the things on
Special Forces everything looks easier.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Wild. I've been getting some dms that I have not
warranted and had to block because there are people that
are like you just were out of breath or you know,
you you it's just wild. I'm like, let's bury.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You in the sad and see.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
How you're yeah right, Like so I'm really, I really am.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm really starting to look at this and say, life is.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You look at it and at the tender age of
forty about to be forty one, I need to truly
practice that. And I was a reality show virgin and
this was such an eye opening experience. So there's so
many positives to take away from it. And it is
again like how you look at the experiences is how
(39:54):
you will be able. And I remember they kept I
don't know if they told us this when you were there,
but they were like, look around, like this is it's
a great experience, like this is You're not going to
get anything like this anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You're so right. I feel like that's spot on. What
have you learned? What have you taken away as your
favorite like lesson of it all?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Well, I actually think that the biggest lesson that I'm
learning is right now, it's you know, how to put
something behind you, you know. I think one of the
things that I talked more Okay, first of all, I
don't think I talked about being a child actor as
much as the interviews and whatnot. Let On, I spoke
much more about my husband than the past life of mine.
(40:40):
So it was really wild when it kept coming up,
because I was like, oh, no, people are going to
think this is all I talk about, But there is
something to say where it's like the focus in your
life should just be on the present and and and
staying focused on your journey and really taking it seriously
because you have one life and you can stay present
to do that, or even as challenging like in being sober,
(41:02):
which I don't mind talking about, it's like you have
to stay committed to that. That's a daily thing. But
it's not just enough to not do that. There's so
much more that you can commit to yourself to stay
present and to keep growing and keep pushing yourself. And
for a lot of people that's really hard, you know.
And so in some ways it's just great to do
(41:24):
crazy stuff like this to show us that we can
still do hard things even though we're like moms and
you know, getting older, and.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
It gives you such perspective. Like my favorite lesson out
of all of this is that I came back with
such a greater appreciation for my life, feeling like I'm
really lucky, you know, like I thankfully live in a
country where there are people who sacrifice their lives for
(41:54):
our freedom, and I can I can live kind of
in a state of bliss that maybe I wouldn't be
able to if I had been born in the Middle
East or something, you know. So I just kind I
came home with a greater appreciation for my life and
a perspective.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, look, that was that's dead on. I mean I think.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
That she definitely have a deeper appreciation.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
And the truth is, even when i've and it's been
since May, so there's been stages, like you said, of
the grief of like, you know, there's been times when
maybe I was too upset about something and my husband's like,
look that was like eight days of your life. I
did it for four years. There's people who do it
for so long. I mean, I remember Q saying that
he Bud's training was one hundred like a whole year,
(42:43):
he said. And so these people aren't getting paid a
lot of money. You know, we got paid very well
to be on the show. And it's like you got
to be so grateful, you got to be so grateful
for all of it, right, and so yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was totally.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Well, I still couldn't believe I did it.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I was watching it last night. I was like, what
did I do? Why did I do this? Why? Why
were we so crazy? I know, what the heck is
wrong with us? Yeah? I was looking at it like
at one point and I was just like, what, I
don't And it wasn't even the mud.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
It might have been like.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I think it was actually after I got eliminated, and
then I saw people fling each other over each other's bodies,
and then I was like, this is a crazy show.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Like the fact that Golden was collapsing with Cam on
his back. I was like, I was trying to think
if I had still been there, who they would have
made me, Carrie, because they totally would have made the
little people if you or me or Kyla or Denise
were still there or Ali, and Ali could have done
it because she freaking was a beast and was training
(43:54):
like up to you know, we left like crazy. But
I was like, who would they have made me carry?
Because I'm flashing back to Jojo Siwa, Oh yeah, hearing
was it Body Miller or Tom Sandivil? She was carrying
Tom Sandoval, Like, I was flashing back to that and
how much respect I gained just in that instant of
(44:16):
watching her for her, like, what how is she carrying
a full grown man on her back? You know?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Jojo was a very solidly built person with a lot
of gymnastic experience and yeah, and has the kind of
strength that like Kayla has. So I think that if look,
if I was to, if anybody would say, hey, what
advice would you give somebody that wants to be on
the show, I'd be like, if you want to be
on the show, start training now. If you know that
(44:47):
you have an agent, you're like, my agent's gonna pitch
me for this, But because I really want to be
in it, just start training now. Don't wait till you hear,
don't wait till anything like, because then at least you
know that you've committed from the moment that you decided.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
You know, people might be watching, and it can't hurt No, Like,
the training is not gonna hurt you. It's gonna help you.
You're gonna be healthy, healthy, healthier for it, So why
not just train? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I wish I wish I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Have my superstitious tendencies because I stopped working out.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I stopped freaking training.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Because I thought I wasn't gonna be on the show
because I was like, oh, I'm gonna test fate and
I'm gonna keep working out and they're gonna say no,
and I'm gonna be working out for no reason. I
mean not really, it's not no reason because I was
doing it for myself.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Your hypothermia would not have out. It didn't matter if
you would have oh you know what I mean, like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Temperature wise, there's yeah, definitely no way that would have
been well.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
But it wasn't for me. It wasn't just the hypothermia.
It was the in between tasks where we were running
everywhere with our packs on our back, and I just
couldn't handle it. Like I am watching the what did
you call it, the seals hike or the going where
you I think where they took your arm.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I think it was called the seals Hike. Seals Hike.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, So I kept watching that thinking that is my
worst nightmare, Like I and then carrying people like and
then throwing the bugs, I don't know, the bucks.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
I'm done, done, done, that's it done.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I would have handed it over. It's so funny. Again.
I have a funny story about my husband and when
he was when he was in he actually has a
now has a massive fear of spiders, which Alana mentions
when she's using the bathroom. My husband, I think he
was in twenty nine Palms or I was stationed and
they were digging in so they like dig into the
sand on an exercise. It was in Camp Pedalton. Okay,
(46:41):
he just said Camp Pedalton. He's my fact checker.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
He dug into the desert and they had to sleep
there overnight, but they dug into a tarantula breeding ground
which activated at night. So in the middle of the night,
all these marines, young marines start screaming because their body
parts are being nibbled and they all have to strip naked.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Tarantula's nonetheless like not to spiders, tarantulism chomping them and
then they have to strip naked just to get them off,
and they're screaming.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
So I was like he had there are some funny
stories that come out of that's not funny.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
That is not funny, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I think like these guys.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Have really dark senses of humor for that reason because
they go through it.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Oh well, no kidding, you have to, I mean and
the fact you said that Alana was scared of the spider,
I felt like she wasn't. If that spider had been
on my butt, I would have been screaming.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I would have run.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Out of that toilet without my clothes on. She was
just like, oh, there was a spider on my butt.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I'm like, what hell are you?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
So calm? She's really calm. She's a really lovely so
I love her.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I love her. I reached out to her after I
finished the episode and just said, you are freaking crushing it.
She is an inspiration to all of the moms out there,
like all of the moms who have young kids. Yep.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
She was freaking.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Carrying her both of her babies doing hikes like all
of us should just be like bowing down to her
as moms and being like, yeah, we're going to be
like you, or we're gonna try because that is such
an inspiration.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
She's just I mean, I didn't realize how strong she
was because no kids. When we did the gas thing,
and she she gets very scared, and so there was
times when I was like, girl, you're not leaving, You're
not leaving, like you gotta stay. But when it came
to the certain types of training things. She really nailed it.
And when I saw her going up, I was like,
that's why she's able to stay. She's meant to stay.
(48:47):
She's not ready to leave. Yeah, so we'll see, right, No.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Spoilers, Yeah, no spoilers. She's still there thanks to Kyla.
I feel like Kyla was like, don't you leave me.
You're not leaving me. I know.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Kayla didn't want to be the only girl. She was like,
don't leave me with these men, right, I just lost
to girls. I don't need you gone to.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, okay, so we have to wrap soon. But I
do want to touch on your mirror room interview and
how you talked about your mom and having to let
(49:27):
her go as you as your manager. How are things
now between do you know mom and your family?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
So, my mom has been obviously so supportive.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
My mom is my number one fan.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
She like, you know, I'm writing a memoir right now,
and yeah, there's a lot of things that I'd like
to kind of dig into, so I need to be
chronologically accurate. She always brings over too much stuff. She's
hoarded all this stuff, these playbills, these pictures, and she
brought a box of Kodak images last night for me
(49:57):
to like go through and I know that to put
the kids down and then we're gonna start watching this.
And I had texted her. I texted her before I said, Mom,
we talk about you in tonight's episode. She's like, Okay,
we'll deal with it when I get there, right, And
I'm looking through all the images and I realize, you know,
she's just always been there for me, even if we
(50:18):
had these hard times. As many people who grow up
in this business do a lot. Most people don't talk
about it. Most people don't talk about their stage parent
being you know, complex or complicated. I know, so meant actually,
three quarters, if not ninety five percent of stage parents
make mistakes in ways that can range from really super
(50:39):
abusive to just general mistakes like oh I financially didn't
set you up. I'm so sorry, but then you can't
get those years back right. So I felt like I
was very authentic in the mirror room. I felt like
I was very respectful of what happened between me and
my mom, and she sat there with me and we
watched the together, and I looked at her, and my
(50:59):
husband was nice enough to be taking care of the girls.
I said, Mom, what are you thinking right now? And
she was like, yeah, She's like, it's it's true. That
is what happened. That's true. And it's weird. It's almost
like my mom was there with me and going through
you know, she sees your little girl going through this
crazy experience and you can be rooting for her, but
(51:20):
you're really a piece of you is there. So it
was really it was really touching to see her take
accountability too and just be like, it's all good, and
maybe I'll check in with her.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
I'll call my mom after this. Okay, trist Die, see
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
You will, yes, you look, she lives here. She lives here.
She lives close to me in Texas, and I take
care of her and I love her and I take
her to her surgeries, and you know, it's like she
just wants to be a part of my life. And
it was really only one year that I hadn't take
the break, and I think that was the healthiest thing
for me. But there's a whole bunch of other stuff
(51:57):
you go through after you leave your parents house, right
like you become this adult. I just was a little
delayed and ended up just not not, and he you
know what, Foxy, God bless him.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
He was like this autonomy thing, you wanted it and
then you didn't know what.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
To do with it. And then I got really emotional.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, I mean that's really introspective. Like it's true, I
would assume and so hard. Like I feel like we
hear stories about child actors who just go down really
bad paths, you know, just for whatever reason. And thank God,
(52:40):
you know, you came out on the other side of
it and got to do special Forces and holy challenge
yourself and be crazy.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
There.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Yes, there's three dimensions to everyone.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
That is true. And I think that's why I did
the show, was just to kind of show people like, hey,
like I may have talked about this in the past
and this may be how you know me, but like
I'm a full other person too, And I still can't
believe I did this show. I know, it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Literally, Okay, I'm gonna end on this. But so the
almost famous podcast with Ben and Ashley is you know,
we're kind of the not the sidekick, the spinoff of that, Okay,
and well, I guess you could call us a sidekick,
and they just had Wells Adams who was on Traders.
He's part of Bachelor Nation and he was on Traders,
(53:32):
and they were talking about Special Forces because Ashley predicted
that I was going to be on this season. She
said it to me so long before they even asked me,
and so they started talking about how Ashley thinks that
Ben is going to be asked next, and Wells was like,
don't do it, dude, don't do it. Just do Traders.
(53:53):
That show is crazy, and I'm like, no kidding, it
really is. What were we thinking.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
That's so funny? Would you do Traders? Trista totally. I
love to do that show. You heard it, honestly, you know.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
I feel like the camaraderie that there was, and that's
kind of part of me is the fomo of missing
out on the bonding that you guys did after I
left and then what they're still doing like I love,
I love. Like I said in the beginning of this
podcast is connection. It just means everything to me. And
(54:30):
so for that reason, I would love to do Traders.
I love to travel. Why not go live in a
castle in Scotland and meet all kinds of fun people
that I never would have before. So yeah, sign me
up for Traders? Love it anyway?
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Would you do it? I don't know about reality. I
don't know if it's the best look for me. I
don't know you're done. I don't know I'm done. You
got to give me a few days, you know, we'll see.
I think I really love hosting. I will tell you
that much. I love hosting. And I'm pretty sure I
want to go back to doing theater. And because I
think I just want to, like re like, I want
(55:05):
to fall back in love with with with what I'm
good at, my skills, and kind of like the theater
is that and it always has been for me, so
I should do it. And maybe that's part of what
all this is is just what are you doing after this?
You know, rather than like, you know, book another movie,
book another whatever, shoot another campaign. It's like, no, like
(55:26):
meaningful amount of your life? What do you what are
you bringing meaning to it? Did that make sense? Yeah,
Jesus one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
I feel like that's part of why I went I
wanted to know what my purpose was other than being
a mom, Like I love being a mom. I will
continue to be a mom, but I think that's what
I went into it. For so I do have to wrap.
I'm so sorry. We could talk forever now and ever
will We'll keep texting me so much. Well, duh, and
(55:57):
thank you Christy for coming on the almost famous og pad.
I hope everyone will continue to watch Special Forces on
Fox on Wednesday nights. Next week will be I feel
like the finale and then it will air on Hulu afterwards,
and then they'll show our reunion.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
That's right, well, we'll be read.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
We should do something.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
You and I should do something on live, like we
could be live with each other.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
That would be kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh love, I love that. YT's do it. Let's text
the week chat. We're gonna text the group chat. You're
hearing it here. First text the group chat and try
to see how many people we could admit into the
live while doing it, and we'll host so fun. Okay, oh,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
All right, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
All right, bye, We'll love bye
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to Almost Famous Ogs.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's Trista.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Bob is playing in a pebble beach Carmel without me
at a golf tournament, which I'm having major fomo about.
But the only thing making it better is that Christy
Carlson Romano is here as my co host to talk
all the Special Forces recap and tee and all the things.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But when I was texting you last night, so a
little a little background, I was watching the show, of course,
and all of a sudden, like three quarters of the
way through, almost three quarters of the way through, the
plane and helicopter crash happened, which, oh my gosh, it
(00:53):
is such a horrible story, like I so awful. I
just I just can imagine and think about it.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Our first episode was the fires, and the fire coverage
on the West coast got cut out due to fires.
So it's been a really wild I mean, just these
few weeks. January has still not ended. I just want
to point that out.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I want it to be done.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, we need to move on, Lordie.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We've had enough drama in chaos for the whole year,
so yes, So I got cut off and I didn't
get to watch it, and so I waited until this morning, yeah,
for it to come out on Hulu. I text you
and I'm like, I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You made it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And then like two seconds later on the show, she
gets her arm bandfold, so I'm like, I'm she and
you didn't respond to me, and I was like, oh crap,
what's happening. And you're usually so good about it, and
I was like, oh no, did I say something wrong?
And then I saw the show this morning and I
was like, well, hello, I totally said, well, you should
(02:03):
be so proud, and then it was like the moment
that you got pulled from the show. So I'm so
sorry that I was clearly obtuse and just an idiot.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I honestly thought, because you are so supportive that you
had seen it and you were already just being like, hey,
you made it that far and just to be proud,
because I don't think that the sentiment changes. And it's
been a really kind of very introspective twelve hours I think,
from you know, it hasn't probably even been twelve hours.
(02:34):
My daughter in the middle of the night got a
fever because flu's going around right now.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh yeah, Ryan's been sick for like a week.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And I think a hundred kids were out at the
school yesterday because of flu. Oh that's a lot of kids.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Watch out for that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's the January flu. Let's just call it back. Yeah,
since this is this is what's happening. But she's she'll
be okay. It was just it's funny how I've seen
this meme or you know, funny reels that us moms
they send each other. I should start sending you some
to I'm yes, please, okay, good you're you're on the
short list now. But you know, we send send each
(03:17):
other stuff. And one of the funny things is when
you're having an emotional breakdown as a mom, but then
you stop because your child comes in and asks you
to open a bag of snacks. I'll send you that one.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So that's how it felt last night.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's how it felt last night when I was like,
you know, like a little emo or whatever, and then
like my daughter comes in and she's like, you know,
it's it's about four in the morning, and uh, we
wake up at six or so, you know, to get
ready for school, and there's something in you that just
hones in on, Okay, this is what my life is,
you know, like the reality and the purpose and and
(03:55):
and and it's it's it's a it's a service. You
know that moms have. We we activate and we take
care of our babies. So I think that that kind
of delayed any more grieving that I've had, you know,
on trying to think about what went down. So I'm
actually curious how you I mean, if do you want
to how we how do you do this? On your pod?
(04:15):
You go from the beginning of a show.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
From the from the beginning, but since you're here, like,
I want to know about how you're feeling to start
and and I will say, I mean, even though I
was only there for two days, you put it perfectly grieving,
Like I feel like you're grieving. You're not, Like my
decision was my decision. They obviously pulled your armband so
(04:41):
that it was very different. But tell me what you're grieving,
because if people normally think of grieving as a loss
or a death or you know, something like that, but
I feel like it's very similar. And I feel like
I've kind of gone through through the stages of grief
(05:02):
in a way like being you know, at Pea, I
was at peace to start. Maybe I went backwards. Maybe
I went through it backwards and then I was like
I got home and I'm like, wait, what did I
just do?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Kyla felt the same way, and Kyla spoiler alert, was
also eliminated, although she quit so I felt like she
had a very similar thing to you Trista, where you know,
she was this tiny girl and she had made it
so far. She actually, and I don't want to speak
for her, but she's very vocal about this. She kind
of wanted to quit that morning, but kind of got
(05:35):
rushed into the morning events of like get your pack,
get your this gate, and she was trying to find
a time to make it happen. She said she even
went to the rock like you did, and Q was
like we're busy, like go away, So it wasn't the
right time and then she essentially was just like I
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
She was trying, but then she's like no. And when
we went.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Through it the night before, right, yeah, you know, I
think they were really thinking one of us would break,
and clearly they didn't know that the Disney girls are
you know, we're pretty resilient Mickey Mouse, Like, you know,
we're tough, like that gang gang. But she's so great though,
(06:19):
because we also have a sense of humor, which I
think really brought you through the pain and your hypothermia
to still feel so good about your experience. And then
you know, her and I then had been making jokes
and trying to keep it light. And you know, this
is the episode that you see just how real this
show gets, just how serious the show actually is. For
(06:43):
like the next you know, this episode in the next
episode is even more serious.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, it's crazy. So tell me your thought process and
on why you think it's grieving and what you're grieving.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Absolutely, I will sometimes your audience is gonna have to
bear with your co host today because I do talk
around topics. Maybe they're nice though, maybe you have really
sweet and patient because they are they must because they
know you and they love you, so you have to
love me and listen.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We're if even if we had like a script of
what we're going to talk about, it does not have
to go by the script. That's the beauty of our podcast.
That's the beauty of most most podcasts. But for now, like, yeah,
let's we're just chatting. We're just chatting, chat.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
All right, So I I you're right, it's very hard
to put a word to what a contestant on the
show experience is after and I think that that's why
production allows for you to have mental health access afterwards.
They've checked in with us periodically, and I've commended Fox
as well as Minno to sort of allocate the budget
(07:49):
to make sure that we're all good and that they
don't have to really, I don't feel like they have
to do that, and certainly and other sets I've been in,
they they haven't thought that way. So it's kind of like, well,
this is a nice surprise that I have access to
this for the first time. That being said, I mean
the therapist wasn't really there. I think there was a
(08:11):
couple therapists that would watch us around the clock, right, Trisa, yep.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, Because when you finish your exit interview, when you
leave the show, you do an exit interview on camera,
and then you go and you talk to the psychologist
and you make sure that everything's okay if there's anything
you want to share. And when I was doing my
exit interview with the psychologist, I was sitting at her desk,
and she had like she had a whole all the
(08:36):
cameras were on, so she was watching what was happening.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
She had like a bunch of them shows a bunch
of times. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She was watching everything happened and listening to everything that
we were saying, not just to the DS but everything
that was recorded, so they know the psychologists are totally
tuned in to what's happening on the show in real time.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Of course, of course, and I think even just for
liability's sake, that makes a ton of sense. But then
the after care element of the show, I do think
is it. I actually think I will because I have
access to it, just reach out to the lady, because
why not, Like therapy is expensive and if I can
get some free therapy, Like I'm a good it, I'm got.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
To go call.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm going to give you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm going to give you one one little bit of
a learning lesson that I've learned from this, and that
is yes, one hundred percent, talk to the psychologist. But
after I interviewed Rudy and Billy, I was like, everyone
needs to talk to them to get some kind of closure.
(09:42):
So I don't know if there's a way that you
can reach out. I know Rudy is great, I know
you have your You've talked to Q, like, yeah, I
feel like just call them up honestly or DM them
and say, hey, could we have a conversation that's just
you know, me to you and meet all the cast,
like I feel like they need to build that into
(10:03):
the show is for all of us to like, each
person should have like a debriefing or whatever you want
to call it after you're finished with the show and
just connect with them, because it really, truly it felt
like closure to me. I don't know. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I love that. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And each of us had the person that came down
on us the hardest. For me, it happened to be
Billy and years was cute. And I know that you
guys connected on the pod in another episode which you
should go you should go listen to if you haven't
heard it. Thanks Kirstie. Yeah, and it must have been.
I wonder how it was Bob there when you talked
(10:43):
to Q, and was that cathartic.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It was very cathartic. Bob was there and we just
laughed a lot. And I feel like you know this
laughter just helps with healing. I don't know, it's just magic.
So I feel like it was a great way to
really see him as a human, you know, and not
just not I know they're directing staff, that's what d
(11:07):
S stands for, but everyone wants to call him drill sergeants.
And that's kind of what he was at me, like,
yelling at me, like a drill sergeant. So I could
see him as a human more than a drill sergeant.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay. So the one thing that I will say that
I felt like was a little tricky was that they
actually re edited. Am I even allowed to say this? Like,
I don't even know?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Okay, yes, base, And it's not disparaging the show.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's the it's a it's a choice cut. I mean,
they do the most beautiful edits on these shows to
keep people entertained. And you know, Day two, Kylo was
telling me, she's like, this is a TV show. This
isn't like we're not actually doing this, this is this
is a structured show for us, and so we and
so she was thinking of it in a different way,
and I was lost in the sauce I.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Was really thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I was like in it, I don't know what I
guess because my husband got to me. So when I
watched it back this last episode, it shocked me that,
you know, my interrogation was about day three or four.
I really don't remember, a lot of those days started
to blur together, but it was early on that I
had been interrogated, and so they had to re edit it.
(12:12):
And so I understand the flow and you know, just
production in general. But what I'll say is, you know,
I was struggling without an interrogation, and the way that
we had the edit delivered was such that it felt
like they really encouraged me at like the last hour
of my contribution in the show. And so that's cool, Like,
(12:34):
don't I don't take offense to it, but it is.
It is a lot of things really are out of sequence,
and it's for this, and it's for the plot. It's
for the storyline of like hey, Christy. Without Kyla, then
I would naturally be the weakest person. Also I think
oldest besides yeah, because Carrie's gone, so I was the
oldest at forty standing there.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Okay, So part of my reconciliation with how I left
was that I missed the fight. Like obviously I missed
all of this. But the next day is when you
guys did the fighting and the submersion in the boat,
and I thought, well, thank god I didn't fight, because
so many people broke noses, ribs, everything and had to leave,
(13:28):
and that could have been me.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my god, we could have thought, we could have
thought each other.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Sad.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So what helps me reconcile my leaving also is that
I got to miss out on that is any part
of you thankful that you left when you did because
of what they did after you left.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I'll tell you this, I think mentally okay, So speaking
of the therapy session out of you know, when you leave,
I was and maybe he was just telling me what
I wanted to hear, but I just don't think the
therapists need to do that to you. You know. At
that point, he was very sweet and he was like, look,
you know it was we were all kind of bummed
in the Truman Show whatever room with all the TVs
(14:14):
when he took your armband, and we really felt like,
if you could somehow make it through today, that you
would do really well with the mental stuff with interrogation.
And who's to say that that is the case, because
I look at it now, I'm like, oh man, Calorically,
I was starving. I was also stressed. So I don't
(14:35):
know if you're like me, but I was not eating
the little raw eggs and the whatever crap they were
given to us. I was like, yeah, I think I'm
just too nervous. I felt like a sitting duck. Regardless mentally,
I was in it to win it, So I do
think interrogation wise, I would have been like, do whatever
you want to me, you know what I mean, like,
I'll just push it, push it out of my mind
and keep going whatever. You know. I guess that's how
(14:58):
I'm feeling now. It was a finta pastic episode though,
right Like it was fantastic, Like, honestly, so I was
catching up on it right before this, and I had
it on the screen and Ryan was about to take
CODEA for a walk and he was just.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Standing there with his AirPods in with his coat on,
like he couldn't leave.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He's like, this is so riveting. Yeah, this show you
cannot look away from. You cannot look away from it
once it's on.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, And honestly, like, there are just little things that
that I'm always blown away by that. I'm like, oh,
that's funny. The bugs, did you see? I mean, how
could you not freaking see all of the bugs flying
all over Billy and anyone who was ready during the
breakman thing?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
No, I do. Oh, oh my god, Christy, they were
so bad.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So when we did the bridge the first day or
the second day or whatever, the bugs were bad, but
it hadn't just rained, and they weren't as bad as
last night. You need to go back and see, like
they are swarming all around them, and I'm like, oh
my god, they're at the bottom waiting for waiting to
(16:09):
break people and save their life essentially, and all these
bugs are all around and I was like.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I wouldn't have been able to do it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I would not have been able to focus on anything
except the fact that bugs are like eating me alive.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And I'm sure Billy didn't
even blink because he's tough. No, he's blink at all.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And Cam is like, you know, actually blinking and like
trying to keep.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Them out of his eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I don't know that was that was a freaky thing
to me. Okay, let's go back to the first part
of the episode. So the first part of the episode.
Your rock is not or your burkin is not burkin, bergen,
bergen whatever, it's yeah bergen.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Denise, Yeah, Denise called it a burkin.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I thought that it was hilarious. Let's call it a burgen.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So it is.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Not full.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So let's tell people what we had to what we
had to do with our Burgans to make sure that
they were ready.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So they gave us sandbags, and they gave us a
pile of sand, but that pile of sand was outside,
and so it would get wet and you would essentially
locate the sand, put it in the bag, and then
stuff your bag so that it wouldquote unquote make weight.
And that weight was I forget was it twenty twenty
pounds or no.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The entirety five? What is it thirty? It was like
thirty thirty five? Okay, so that's what we well, thirty
five pounds, not kilograms or whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
We Yeah, yeah, that also didn't help.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think it was fifteen. It was fifteen kilograms. I
think I think fifteen was the number. Oh and I
just saw I wore this in honor of you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You still have it. I still have it. I proposed
to you.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I know, so I told Christy I felt naked without
my ring. I didn't have my ring on because I
wear it every day. And Christy was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I have an extra one.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Do you want one? She's like do you want light
pink or whatever? And I was like, well, duh, Pink's
my color. So I have your ring on. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So they didn't get that because I remember being like,
will you take this ring? Because she was like a
bachelor throwback. I was trying to be cute. You got me, Yeah,
thank you. I was so so sweet. I totally forgot
about that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was so fun, right, Okay, so I think it
was fifteen we had we had there was like a
little hanging scale thing you had to hang your ruck
on there and weigh it.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yep, it was all chaotic that day.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I felt like, did you have a chance to weigh
it or were you guys still like on top of
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
At that point, I think we did start to worry
about our appearance more because they said we needed to
all be uniform. So in this episode you can actually
hear Carrie say jackets on because if one person was
going to have a jacket, everybody wanted a jacket, but
some of the guys were really hot in whatever they
had underneath, but we all decided for the women that
they would wear jackets. So on the last go we
(19:23):
all have the jackets and the hats so that we
could stay because we were like, somebody's gonna get wet,
et cetera. So that became. You know, there's always so
many things that you have to think about in order
to not to evade the DS and sort of hope
that you don't get on their radar. And unfortunately, I
(19:43):
was probably one of the most screw I hate to
say anything definitive because then the internet is like, she's
so impressed with herself. But the truth is is that
I didn't bring the thera gun, and I didn't stow
like food or snacks, and I and Cam this is
not actually shown, but that's same day we got punished
again inside the barracks by Q, where we had to
(20:06):
stand against the wall, bend and knee and he was
checking our our racks to see if we were storing
anything that wasn't approved, and so a lot of people
had things and Q actually read Golden's diary and they
kind of had it back and forth with that because
(20:26):
he had said some mean things about DS and his diary.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm sorry, but he read the dot that doesn't seem well.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think at that point with day seven, Day eight,
they really are starting to it's a whole other level
of show. It's not even the same show. It's like
the first and sort of second part of it. And
so they it starts to get very personal. And from
what I know with the Hubsbyan who the vet of
the world, he's like they, if this was real, they'd
(20:54):
be screaming in your face all day long until you
passed out, right. So this was nothing compared to what
would really happen. But Q really did give us a
taste of like you have to be to code, you know.
And so that same moment he hopped over to Cam,
he hopped over to me. And I had nothing in
that was not approved by production because I just didn't
(21:15):
want to be the one. And sometimes i'd suffer, Like
I'd look over at Alana and she had these beautiful
like face oils, and she'd be like rubbing her face
and I'm like, she looks so beautiful, and she'd like
put the same like a hoble oil or whatever like
on her hair and she looks pretty, and I was like,
and she's got this great butt, like if you look
at her Instagram.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh no, I literally I think right after we were
allowed to start following each other. Yeah, I went, I
went on everyone's you know thing, and started following. And
the first thing I said to her was, oh my god,
your ass is.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Her peach, her peach tush holes, her peach tush. Yeah,
and she just like she I remember us changing because
we had to change in front of each other, and
I was very shy, Like we're talking like I brought
like pea panties that literally went like down to almost
my knee, and I was just so nomous.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I'm very shy.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
My husband was like, make sure you don't get into
any weird situations with any of these, Like, yeah, do.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You mean pea panties? What are pea plant got?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I literally, cause you know, we're moms. Like, I have
a little bit of a problem with this, and I'll
probably get it fixed or whatever, but it's been something
that I've always battled with, and you know, I was like,
I don't know what they're going to put us through,
but if I have any like leaks or anything, like
I don't want to be gross. Oh yeah, I also
had my period when we first got there. No, you
did not, Yep, I had my prien I thought about that.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So I have not had a period since my daughter
was born because I had to have an oblasion. But
I was wondering because you know how when women all
get together then they sync up, and I'm like, if
one person gets it, then probably everyone will. You had it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
A couple of us had it, and I won't say who,
but a couple of us had it, and I just
so happened to have all the things. Like I was
like ready to go because I knew like clockwork, but
what was going to happen and how long? I thought
maybe the stress of me training and just being being
in a different country and time zone would would make
it go away. I think I even spoke to the
(23:11):
medical people prior and was like, hey, is there anything
we can take? And he's like, well, there is something
in the field that women take to make them not
have their period or something, and I was like really,
I said, no, I'll have it. It's fine, it is
what it is.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, true true story. Like what did you do though?
Because when can you freaking change a DAMPI I.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Know, tell me about it, Tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We all had to get very creative and then by
of course, in a couple of days it was over.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But yeah, that was not fun. I was like, I
was like hiding.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Tampons like in my bergen and in my pocket of
whatever I was wearing, and I was like handing them
to other people.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Like here, do you want this?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Because I also didn't want to like blow their spot
up in front of these cameras. It was my first
reality show, totally, I was I thought I knew.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I thought I knew what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You did, Obviously you were good, So back to you.
Guys got punished for people stowing snacks and contraband. Essentially,
it wasn't just that.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
My bag was overweight. It was also that he went
into the We were just messy all the way around.
And the other thing about I'll say about the sand,
And this isn't to justify the error that I committed,
so to speak, but you know, the sand when it's wet,
it weighs heavier. When it dries totally lighter. So I
actually do find it really interesting because I did fill
(24:32):
my bag pretty consistently when Carrie would go out and
do it. I'm like, I'm gonna do what carry does
because he knew what to do, and I would just
follow him around sometimes like a puppy dog.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It was hard not to. I mean, the man just
knows what he's right.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He's a leader, He's a natural leader.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's a gem of a man. And it did break
my heart when when he got into it broke my.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Heart, I know, I literally was like, so when I
interviewed DS Rudy and DS Billy, they said, you know,
be proud of yourself. You left when you did. You
could have left like tripping over you know, like a chord,
just doing it one of the tasks, but just tripping
over something like not even related to the task. And
(25:20):
I remembered. I was like, oh my god, yes that's Carrie.
And it happened last night. I was like, Ryan, here
it comes. He's he's gonna fall, and he fell right then.
I felt horrible. And the fact that the four DS
walked into the medic room and said goodbye to him,
that just I mean, that shows everybody that he really
(25:42):
was so respected and looked up to during that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Man the DS just got so I feel like it
must have pissed them off so much that me and
Kyla didn't quit that night, and they were just like
God damn it, because then they're like, we lost Carrie
and now we still got these two buffoons, as they
like to call us. I'm like, duping. I'm like, I'm
not leaving. Are you leaving? And She's like, I'm not
leaving right now. I'll leave tomorrow, but I'm not leaving now.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
And I was like yeah, yeah, me too, Yeah yeah,
oh okay.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So we talked about the okay, okay, your your bag,
and then the fact that basically you guys were like,
you know, chaotic.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And there was other reasons that we were punished. I
just want to make it clear that it wasn't exclusively
my bergin. And also, I don't know if you can tell,
but nobody else saw me or even Kyla as the
weakest link. I mean, you got the strongest person there
cam talking to Kyla saying, baby, you got this, you
just keep going. And then you've got him trying to
support me. He was you didn't even see like he
took our bags and he did this, and especially when
(26:48):
I was dealing with that rock, because there was some
times when he's like this isn't right. He said that
to me, He's like, this isn't right, and so he
would help me with the bags. The day I had
the rock, there was actually a really funny moment it
did not get captured.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
When I had the rock in my bag and I looked.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
At Q before U gosh, it must have been once
we got up there for the.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
The line, the moving the line.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The Tyroullian something Tyrolean traverse is what it's called, I think.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
And I had the rock in my bag and I
looked at Q and I he's he's obviously such a
kidd and sometimes you'll catch them off guard because they're
so stoic and strong. But I'd like to I'd like
to try to catch them off guard at that point.
Uh And I said, uh I, uh, Staff, I have
a name for my my rock because I I know,
(27:39):
I knew that if they wanted to break me, I
wanted to show them I still had a sense of humor.
I said, I have a name for my rock, Staff
and he was like, what is it? Recruit and I
was like, it's Dwayne the rock Bergen.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
No, I know what I'm getting you for your birthday
a little.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Or do you get me a rock with an eyebrow
on it?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh my gosh, that is awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I love the behind the scenes moments that we don't
get to see.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I think that's why it's fun to have the podcast
and for you to be the right person. And you know,
Golden also has his podcast where he's he's coming at
it from an athletic perspective and it is so interesting.
Each person's experience of it is reflective. I think of
the conversations they have with Dyes, the reason they even
took the contract. Like I see Marion Jones and she's
(28:35):
doing such a great job of, you know, proving why
she's her greatness is not questionable, you know, and how
she's survived through things and is on the other side,
and I really loved her. There were some people that
really like you were the first person that really kind
(28:56):
of messed with morale when you left. Marion was definitely
for the women, I would say when she left, I
think we all felt that, and then when Carrie did,
it was like Jesus, what are we all gonna do now?
We kind of like you. The air in the room
was sucked out as soon as Carrie was like shaking
(29:18):
a week. It was like seeing your dad, like shaking
a week.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yes, your mentor like someone you look up to. I
mean he was. I know, everyone went to him with
questions and tried to garner that support from him, and
you know, same thing I've talked about it, Cam was
that for me too. He was kind of like, I'm
going to carry your bag when he came back and
got me at the beach, when he was like, don't
(29:44):
you come and get her and he was like whatever,
I'm gonna go help her with her bag and get
her into this vehicle. So no, I'm so glad that
he continued to do that, and I assumed Golden too.
You know, I feel like it is such teamwork. That's
I love this part of the show and part of me.
(30:06):
Like before I went, I really wanted to make it
to the end, but also my I had little goals.
I wanted to get to an interrogation. I wanted to
get to the point where you're writing the death letters.
I wanted to, you know, get to those little increments.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, what made you want to get to interrogation? I'm curious,
just why does everyone I mean, then to connect.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Just to connect. So connection to me is what Leffett
life is all about, and connecting with the DS. In
watching the previous seasons, I felt like the interrogation, not
the interrogation, it's the mirror room, you know, interrogation to me.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
You did get interrogated, did you not.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I did get a mirror room. Yeah, they didn't show it,
but I but I did get it. So I was
thankful for that because I know, like Ali didn't get one,
and I, well, I think everybody else did. But yeah,
I was thankful for that because of that connection with
the DS. They just get to know you on a
(31:06):
personal level and not like where they're looking like you're
not looking up at them or they're not looking down
at you. You're looking just across the table at each other,
you know, as humans. So that's how I felt like
the mirror room was.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
That's great, and you.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Had I'm thankful that they did show your mirror room.
But you're right, like Kayla's mirror room was shown or
part of it was shown in the first episode. I
feel like, so the two hours, so I don't know
if it was actually the first or the second, but
when they show her coming back from her mirror room.
My cot was already gone. If you notice, my cot
(31:45):
was gone, So that was definitely after I had left.
She had her mirror room. So you're right, like, they
are definitely not showing you in order what's happening. So
I like that you clarified that the mirror room that
you that was shown for you was earlier on and
you didn't really have that.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Like support reportive dialogue. I did not.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
In fact, like I was shocked after the coffin that
they didn't try to pull me in and be like, hey.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like are you are you good? Because that was insane.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, you were crying the whole time, weren't you.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So here's the thing, Actually, I wasn't crying.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
They looped. They looped a lot of that because I
think I was singing the Bluey theme song pretty much.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Okay, do you want to see.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
What I did? Maybe we could make this an asset.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Okay, Oh my god, yes, I was like, mom oh
that's what I actually did.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So in Katrina, who was the producer, she said that
they were all texting each other and they're like, what
is she singing?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Because they don't have Bluey in the UK.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
In the UK and so so many goes. I think
it's the bluey theist.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh my god, you know what, I have a song,
a song story, so before the show in a way
to prepare, like I thought, if I got to the
(33:34):
torture end, like the end of it when they're torturing you,
I was like, there's only so much you can like
talk to yourself in positive terms, the mantras, you know,
the everything, And I was like, I need to have
a song that I can just sing on a loop
to myself over and over again. Yep. And my song
was uh American pie.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Ooh, that's a good one. Mine was because I.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Know every word and like song so long.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh that's so smart. That's so smart. And we're and
we're very aligned because mine was going to be, oh
my gosh, back to life, back to Reality. That was
gonna be mine in there, but it probably would have
ended up but it probably would have ended up being
the blue theme song again.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
No, no, you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Know how they asked us what our song would be
it like when we're entering the course, you know, like
exiting or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yours should have like back to life.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Back to reality, Like you should have used that on
a reel for for when you were finished with the show.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Exactly, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Exactly, And I posted, you know, I posted.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Our our back to life, back to reality with Kyla
and I are little Oh you did, yes, our little
fun thing. And I don't know if I'm jumping ahead,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Sure we could talk about but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
But yeah, I think, you know, I did think that
maybe they would check in with me after the coffin,
and so since they hadn't done that, and I don't
know what day that happened, but I think the day
before might have been the I don't even know honestly
what day that my teriation actually happened, but you know,
I was kind of kind of struggling. They were right
my head. My head might have been down. I can
(35:22):
see that. I was definitely kind of like when we
go on these missions, there's always an extra step that
they didn't explain to us, that's totally and so I
started to really try to process on the go and
my face has no filter, and so I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
At it and I'm like, oh, she's thinking hard.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yep, I could see it.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I could see it. I'm sure you were like, oh,
I know exactly what's going on in that girl's mind.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeap, yep, right, okay, So you have the rock, you
have to pick up the rock, you have to put
the rock in your backpack. And how much do you
you said it was probably like one hundred and fifty pounds.
Oh no, no, fifty or wait it was fifty pounds.
Fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I think the pound made my burgin fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
That is crazy, Yeah, that's crazy. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And I also picked up a rock that was too tiny,
and Q had me go get another rock that was
the right size. So they didn't show.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That party the right size. Okay, so all of the
girls in going back to the recap, all of the
girls didn't. It didn't pass. I cannot find my words today.
They didn't pass the Tyrolean like traverse thing. How are
(36:43):
you feeling doing that challenge? Like? Was it fun? Was
it scary? Was it something that you were excited to do?
I know that some of the things we've talked about,
like you know, the helicopter, like it was exhilarating in
a way. How are you feel with that challenge?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean I had a lot of wins and I
knew that, and then when they paired me up with Cam,
I thought that I was I thought I was in
good shape. Like I was like, Cam's got my back,
and he would talk to me and say, you know,
get out of your head and just do it. And
so that's where I was at with it. He was like,
get out of your head and let's just do this.
But the thing about this Trillian traverse or terrass, yeah,
(37:22):
what is it traverse? Was that youse, you don't hook
your feet as tightly as you think you need to.
So my leg got a massive bruise behind the knee
because I linked my my leg and I just because
I thought when I watched Rudy that that he kind
of crossed the feet. But you really got to be
(37:42):
so almost like a ballet dancer when you're like gently
and gracefully going. So that was something that you know,
experience would teach you. But uh, in terms of the
women not being able to hold themselves up right like that,
I truly don't think women are built too unless are
fitness focused folks. I don't know anyone, any female on
(38:06):
our on our recruit team that could have even I
know that Kayla is so so so so so so strong.
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But at that point, you know, you're you're pulling yourself
and I assume there's some pulling involved, so your.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Hands have already got to be like.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You know, so tired from pulling yourself across the rope.
And I was saying to Ryan because he did Fear
Factor back in the day and they did do like
a traverse like that. Oh they did, and they did,
and he was like, that's really hard, and he's like
they have to go a really long way. He's like,
on Fear Factor, we did like half of that or
(38:44):
a quarter of that. So I know that it's like
your hands like have got to be so tired and
then you have to hang afterwards. So yeah, I that
seemed really really hard to me, although from your couch,
I know for people it probably looked easier than it
(39:04):
actually is, which I think all of the things on
Special Forces everything looks easier.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Wild. I've been getting some dms that I have not
warranted and had to block because there are people that
are like you just were out of breath or you know,
you you it's just wild. I'm like, let's bury.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
You in the sad and see.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
How you're yeah right, Like so I'm really, I really am.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm really starting to look at this and say, life is.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You look at it and at the tender age of
forty about to be forty one, I need to truly
practice that. And I was a reality show virgin and
this was such an eye opening experience. So there's so
many positives to take away from it. And it is
again like how you look at the experiences is how
(39:54):
you will be able. And I remember they kept I
don't know if they told us this when you were there,
but they were like, look around, like this is it's
a great experience, like this is You're not going to
get anything like this anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You're so right. I feel like that's spot on. What
have you learned? What have you taken away as your
favorite like lesson of it all?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Well, I actually think that the biggest lesson that I'm
learning is right now, it's you know, how to put
something behind you, you know. I think one of the
things that I talked more Okay, first of all, I
don't think I talked about being a child actor as
much as the interviews and whatnot. Let On, I spoke
much more about my husband than the past life of mine.
(40:40):
So it was really wild when it kept coming up,
because I was like, oh, no, people are going to
think this is all I talk about, But there is
something to say where it's like the focus in your
life should just be on the present and and and
staying focused on your journey and really taking it seriously
because you have one life and you can stay present
to do that, or even as challenging like in being sober,
(41:02):
which I don't mind talking about, it's like you have
to stay committed to that. That's a daily thing. But
it's not just enough to not do that. There's so
much more that you can commit to yourself to stay
present and to keep growing and keep pushing yourself. And
for a lot of people that's really hard, you know.
And so in some ways it's just great to do
(41:24):
crazy stuff like this to show us that we can
still do hard things even though we're like moms and
you know, getting older, and.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
It gives you such perspective. Like my favorite lesson out
of all of this is that I came back with
such a greater appreciation for my life, feeling like I'm
really lucky, you know, like I thankfully live in a
country where there are people who sacrifice their lives for
(41:54):
our freedom, and I can I can live kind of
in a state of bliss that maybe I wouldn't be
able to if I had been born in the Middle
East or something, you know. So I just kind I
came home with a greater appreciation for my life and
a perspective.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, look, that was that's dead on. I mean I think.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
That she definitely have a deeper appreciation.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
And the truth is, even when i've and it's been
since May, so there's been stages, like you said, of
the grief of like, you know, there's been times when
maybe I was too upset about something and my husband's like,
look that was like eight days of your life. I
did it for four years. There's people who do it
for so long. I mean, I remember Q saying that
he Bud's training was one hundred like a whole year,
(42:43):
he said. And so these people aren't getting paid a
lot of money. You know, we got paid very well
to be on the show. And it's like you got
to be so grateful, you got to be so grateful
for all of it, right, and so yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was totally.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Well, I still couldn't believe I did it.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I was watching it last night. I was like, what
did I do? Why did I do this? Why? Why
were we so crazy? I know, what the heck is
wrong with us? Yeah? I was looking at it like
at one point and I was just like, what, I
don't And it wasn't even the mud.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
It might have been like.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I think it was actually after I got eliminated, and
then I saw people fling each other over each other's bodies,
and then I was like, this is a crazy show.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Like the fact that Golden was collapsing with Cam on
his back. I was like, I was trying to think
if I had still been there, who they would have
made me, Carrie, because they totally would have made the
little people if you or me or Kyla or Denise
were still there or Ali, and Ali could have done
it because she freaking was a beast and was training
(43:54):
like up to you know, we left like crazy. But
I was like, who would they have made me carry?
Because I'm flashing back to Jojo Siwa, Oh yeah, hearing
was it Body Miller or Tom Sandivil? She was carrying
Tom Sandoval, Like, I was flashing back to that and
how much respect I gained just in that instant of
(44:16):
watching her for her, like, what how is she carrying
a full grown man on her back? You know?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Jojo was a very solidly built person with a lot
of gymnastic experience and yeah, and has the kind of
strength that like Kayla has. So I think that if look,
if I was to, if anybody would say, hey, what
advice would you give somebody that wants to be on
the show, I'd be like, if you want to be
on the show, start training now. If you know that
(44:47):
you have an agent, you're like, my agent's gonna pitch
me for this, But because I really want to be
in it, just start training now. Don't wait till you hear,
don't wait till anything like, because then at least you
know that you've committed from the moment that you decided.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
You know, people might be watching, and it can't hurt No, Like,
the training is not gonna hurt you. It's gonna help you.
You're gonna be healthy, healthy, healthier for it, So why
not just train? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I wish I wish I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Have my superstitious tendencies because I stopped working out.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I stopped freaking training.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Because I thought I wasn't gonna be on the show
because I was like, oh, I'm gonna test fate and
I'm gonna keep working out and they're gonna say no,
and I'm gonna be working out for no reason. I
mean not really, it's not no reason because I was
doing it for myself.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Your hypothermia would not have out. It didn't matter if
you would have oh you know what I mean, like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Temperature wise, there's yeah, definitely no way that would have
been well.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
But it wasn't for me. It wasn't just the hypothermia.
It was the in between tasks where we were running
everywhere with our packs on our back, and I just
couldn't handle it. Like I am watching the what did
you call it, the seals hike or the going where
you I think where they took your arm.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I think it was called the seals Hike. Seals Hike.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, So I kept watching that thinking that is my
worst nightmare, Like I and then carrying people like and
then throwing the bugs, I don't know, the bucks.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
I'm done, done, done, that's it done.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I would have handed it over. It's so funny. Again.
I have a funny story about my husband and when
he was when he was in he actually has a
now has a massive fear of spiders, which Alana mentions
when she's using the bathroom. My husband, I think he
was in twenty nine Palms or I was stationed and
they were digging in so they like dig into the
sand on an exercise. It was in Camp Pedalton. Okay,
(46:41):
he just said Camp Pedalton. He's my fact checker.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
He dug into the desert and they had to sleep
there overnight, but they dug into a tarantula breeding ground
which activated at night. So in the middle of the night,
all these marines, young marines start screaming because their body
parts are being nibbled and they all have to strip naked.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Tarantula's nonetheless like not to spiders, tarantulism chomping them and
then they have to strip naked just to get them off,
and they're screaming.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
So I was like he had there are some funny
stories that come out of that's not funny.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
That is not funny, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I think like these guys.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Have really dark senses of humor for that reason because
they go through it.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Oh well, no kidding, you have to, I mean and
the fact you said that Alana was scared of the spider,
I felt like she wasn't. If that spider had been
on my butt, I would have been screaming.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I would have run.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Out of that toilet without my clothes on. She was
just like, oh, there was a spider on my butt.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
I'm like, what hell are you?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
So calm? She's really calm. She's a really lovely so
I love her.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I love her. I reached out to her after I
finished the episode and just said, you are freaking crushing it.
She is an inspiration to all of the moms out there,
like all of the moms who have young kids. Yep.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
She was freaking.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Carrying her both of her babies doing hikes like all
of us should just be like bowing down to her
as moms and being like, yeah, we're going to be
like you, or we're gonna try because that is such
an inspiration.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
She's just I mean, I didn't realize how strong she
was because no kids. When we did the gas thing,
and she she gets very scared, and so there was
times when I was like, girl, you're not leaving, You're
not leaving, like you gotta stay. But when it came
to the certain types of training things. She really nailed it.
And when I saw her going up, I was like,
that's why she's able to stay. She's meant to stay.
(48:47):
She's not ready to leave. Yeah, so we'll see, right, No.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Spoilers, Yeah, no spoilers. She's still there thanks to Kyla.
I feel like Kyla was like, don't you leave me.
You're not leaving me. I know.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Kayla didn't want to be the only girl. She was like,
don't leave me with these men, right, I just lost
to girls. I don't need you gone to.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, okay, so we have to wrap soon. But I
do want to touch on your mirror room interview and
how you talked about your mom and having to let
(49:27):
her go as you as your manager. How are things
now between do you know mom and your family?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
So, my mom has been obviously so supportive.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
My mom is my number one fan.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
She like, you know, I'm writing a memoir right now,
and yeah, there's a lot of things that I'd like
to kind of dig into, so I need to be
chronologically accurate. She always brings over too much stuff. She's
hoarded all this stuff, these playbills, these pictures, and she
brought a box of Kodak images last night for me
(49:57):
to like go through and I know that to put
the kids down and then we're gonna start watching this.
And I had texted her. I texted her before I said, Mom,
we talk about you in tonight's episode. She's like, Okay,
we'll deal with it when I get there, right, And
I'm looking through all the images and I realize, you know,
she's just always been there for me, even if we
(50:18):
had these hard times. As many people who grow up
in this business do a lot. Most people don't talk
about it. Most people don't talk about their stage parent
being you know, complex or complicated. I know, so meant actually,
three quarters, if not ninety five percent of stage parents
make mistakes in ways that can range from really super
(50:39):
abusive to just general mistakes like oh I financially didn't
set you up. I'm so sorry, but then you can't
get those years back right. So I felt like I
was very authentic in the mirror room. I felt like
I was very respectful of what happened between me and
my mom, and she sat there with me and we
watched the together, and I looked at her, and my
(50:59):
husband was nice enough to be taking care of the girls.
I said, Mom, what are you thinking right now? And
she was like, yeah, She's like, it's it's true. That
is what happened. That's true. And it's weird. It's almost
like my mom was there with me and going through
you know, she sees your little girl going through this
crazy experience and you can be rooting for her, but
(51:20):
you're really a piece of you is there. So it
was really it was really touching to see her take
accountability too and just be like, it's all good, and
maybe I'll check in with her.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
I'll call my mom after this. Okay, trist Die, see
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
You will, yes, you look, she lives here. She lives here.
She lives close to me in Texas, and I take
care of her and I love her and I take
her to her surgeries, and you know, it's like she
just wants to be a part of my life. And
it was really only one year that I hadn't take
the break, and I think that was the healthiest thing
for me. But there's a whole bunch of other stuff
(51:57):
you go through after you leave your parents house, right
like you become this adult. I just was a little
delayed and ended up just not not, and he you
know what, Foxy, God bless him.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
He was like this autonomy thing, you wanted it and
then you didn't know what.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
To do with it. And then I got really emotional.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, I mean that's really introspective. Like it's true, I
would assume and so hard. Like I feel like we
hear stories about child actors who just go down really
bad paths, you know, just for whatever reason. And thank God,
(52:40):
you know, you came out on the other side of
it and got to do special Forces and holy challenge
yourself and be crazy.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
There.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Yes, there's three dimensions to everyone.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
That is true. And I think that's why I did
the show, was just to kind of show people like, hey,
like I may have talked about this in the past
and this may be how you know me, but like
I'm a full other person too, And I still can't
believe I did this show. I know, it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Literally, Okay, I'm gonna end on this. But so the
almost famous podcast with Ben and Ashley is you know,
we're kind of the not the sidekick, the spinoff of that, Okay,
and well, I guess you could call us a sidekick,
and they just had Wells Adams who was on Traders.
He's part of Bachelor Nation and he was on Traders,
(53:32):
and they were talking about Special Forces because Ashley predicted
that I was going to be on this season. She
said it to me so long before they even asked me,
and so they started talking about how Ashley thinks that
Ben is going to be asked next, and Wells was like,
don't do it, dude, don't do it. Just do Traders.
(53:53):
That show is crazy, and I'm like, no kidding, it
really is. What were we thinking.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
That's so funny? Would you do Traders? Trista totally. I
love to do that show. You heard it, honestly, you know.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
I feel like the camaraderie that there was, and that's
kind of part of me is the fomo of missing
out on the bonding that you guys did after I
left and then what they're still doing like I love,
I love. Like I said in the beginning of this
podcast is connection. It just means everything to me. And
(54:30):
so for that reason, I would love to do Traders.
I love to travel. Why not go live in a
castle in Scotland and meet all kinds of fun people
that I never would have before. So yeah, sign me
up for Traders? Love it anyway?
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Would you do it? I don't know about reality. I
don't know if it's the best look for me. I
don't know you're done. I don't know I'm done. You
got to give me a few days, you know, we'll see.
I think I really love hosting. I will tell you
that much. I love hosting. And I'm pretty sure I
want to go back to doing theater. And because I
think I just want to, like re like, I want
(55:05):
to fall back in love with with with what I'm
good at, my skills, and kind of like the theater
is that and it always has been for me, so
I should do it. And maybe that's part of what
all this is is just what are you doing after this?
You know, rather than like, you know, book another movie,
book another whatever, shoot another campaign. It's like, no, like
(55:26):
meaningful amount of your life? What do you what are
you bringing meaning to it? Did that make sense? Yeah,
Jesus one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
I feel like that's part of why I went I
wanted to know what my purpose was other than being
a mom, Like I love being a mom. I will
continue to be a mom, but I think that's what
I went into it. For so I do have to wrap.
I'm so sorry. We could talk forever now and ever
will We'll keep texting me so much. Well, duh, and
(55:57):
thank you Christy for coming on the almost famous og pad.
I hope everyone will continue to watch Special Forces on
Fox on Wednesday nights. Next week will be I feel
like the finale and then it will air on Hulu afterwards,
and then they'll show our reunion.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
That's right, well, we'll be read.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
We should do something.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
You and I should do something on live, like we
could be live with each other.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
That would be kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh love, I love that. YT's do it. Let's text
the week chat. We're gonna text the group chat. You're
hearing it here. First text the group chat and try
to see how many people we could admit into the
live while doing it, and we'll host so fun. Okay, oh,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
All right, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
All right, bye, We'll love bye
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Ben Higgins
Ashley Iaconetti
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