October 4, 2024 • 46 mins
We’re putting our Bachelor Nation OG Bob Guiney in the hot seat, when we reunite him with a former flame! Bachelorette #2 Meredith Phillips is here and ready to re-live some moments from her season, and get us caught up on her life!
She confronts Bob face to face and asks him WHY she was the 3rd person to be sent home on his season, and we have some conflicting memories to sort out.
Plus, Meredith reveals a MAJOR secret about the proposal from her season!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Trista Welcome. Let's welcome everyone back to Almost Famous the Ogs.
We are coming at you live and in technicolor today.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yes, good morning, Good.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Morning to you, Good morning to you. I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I know I'm excited. I think that we talked about this,
but it's been a trend lately to have some exes
of Bob's on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's already forgotten about that. We did. Yeah,
we literally have. We've just been lighting up the scoreboard
with all my exes lately. We got to start digging through.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The Bachelor annals and start bringing out some of Trista's
skeletons in the closet from the back in the day.
We recently, we recently had on my ex wife, Rebecca Budig,
and then we are not We've had on Estella Gardner
for my season. We've had on Kelly Joe Kaharski, and
(00:58):
now today we're going to interview Meredith Phillips. And Meredith
was the fourth runner up on my season of the
Bachelor and later went on to become the Bachelorette in
her own right, and and We've tried to set up
this set of you a couple of times now, and
we're hopeful that life is busy.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Works out today.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, very busy, very busy for everyone, absolutely, but yeah
not us, not us. Tea dog, tea, money, and I
are always available always. Yeah, I mean, you know, five
year old's, three year old's, sixteen year olds and fourteen
year olds?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Are those the ages of our respect very close? Fifteen
and seventeen. I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That the other day.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I almost have an eighteen year old son. Like July
next year, I will have an eight like a full
fledged adult. I will have an adult. Yeah, we have
a third adult in our house.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So when is Max's birthday? July Ony twenty six?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, Chris Harrison.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh that's right. I knew that was a special day. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So you know yet another thing that you haven't in
tune with, Chris Harrison there. Yeah, I was thinking because
my son Blake is July first, so I was wondering, Uh,
you know where that birthday was? But gosh, I do
I remember, like it was yesterday when you when you
guys had Max.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh me too, Yeah, I remember, well, I remember it
for a myriad of reasons.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
One, it's like all of a sudden, you start taking
stock of your own life and you're like, what am
I doing exactly when you have a kid. You know,
I'm sitting here flying solo at the time. I'm sure,
but you found a place.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I did. It just took me a little more time
than some that's all.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, yeah, a little more time, but we made it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know, we're done with the fiddle around the gold
Rush era.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, Bob was just talking before we started the show.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But it really makes me solid and I throw in
the fiddley f yeah, because you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do have to throw in the arms and you know, canation.
Like Ryan just went to North Dakota and he was
saying that it is like all it's like super old school,
like a like a black and white like cowboy movie film,
you know, and all these farms and everyone's wearing cowboy
(03:21):
hats and probably walking around like this.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, like gold Rush era.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, I think it's pretty crazy when you visit, you know,
some of those places like Montana's like that. You go
to Montana and it is just absolutely crazy, you know.
I mean, it's all like and I want to I
want to spend more time in those places myself personally.
But to know further ado or too much further ado?
What do I say too, without any further.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ado, without any further ado.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, without any further ado.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Let's bring in our guest, my ex girlfriend from the
Bachelor at season four.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And also what Bachelette was she?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
She was right after you, right, so we got to
bring her on. Then let's bring her on. Let's bring
on Meredith Phillips on to the Bacheorette or Therette the
almost famous anymore? Dude, No, we are not, So let's
bring her in. I'm very excited to get to talk
to her. I haven't seen her in many, many, many years.
(04:21):
Welcome to the show whenever we can bring her in.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Hi, Meredith Rye.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's a day all day here in the Northwest, so
it's raining, and I thought that you you know, I know.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But that's that's a normal fall day in the serving Northwest.
I was in Seattle for quite a few years. I
loved it.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, I mean the fall leaves and everything is so pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I love that. I love fall. I am just I'm
on it on track to go visit my family back
in the Midwest, and I cannot wait to see the
fall leaves. If it is, how is it in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's it's it's very fall. All the fall colors
are full in bloom.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Are you back in Michigan?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I am. Yeah. I moved back to right before COVID. Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm so happy that I did because I got to
spend time with my dad before he passed away, and
my kids got to meet him, and so that was
pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
But Meredith, welcome to the show. How's your family, how's
everyone doing well?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I lost both my parents. Oh within a two year period.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh, oh, my gosh, very very hard.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's brutal, brutal.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
My dad died of a heart attack in his sleep.
In his sleep. Yeah, he didn't know.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I mean obviously, I mean it's he didn't know.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That's a blessing. I contend that's a blessing, right, I guess.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
My mom said to me that she laid with him
for a little it before she called the ambulance.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ah, that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Uh. And then my brother and my mom didn't tell
me because I'm so emotional a lot of the time,
until a couple of days later.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I was living in La at the time.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Wow. Yeah, and then my mom had just you know,
not to put it lightly, but cancer.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, you know, so cancer sucks. That's what got my
dad too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Where are you now, Meredith?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
You're in I'm in the Northwest, okay, Yeah, you came
back from the South. I moved to the Carolinas, which lordie,
I mean, I feel for them right now right now.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I got out of it.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
But it's you know, I knew it was coming, and
I work for hospitals, so it's, oh you do you're.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Not in weren't you a chef? You are a chef
chef hospitals? Oh? No, kidding, that's an Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wow, my name on.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
My shirt and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Are you like, do you actually work in the hospital
or is this like a remote job where you just
set things up or I have.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
A base here in the Northwest and then I travel
to other hospitals that need me. So it's it works
for me.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Do people recognize you from the shell When I first got.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
To the hospital that is my base, Yes, they googled
me because because it's a bear hospital. Yeah, the tinier ones,
they're like, we don't care. You know, they're not They're
not going to look for me, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But how about you guys, I mean, Bob I didn't
know yet.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Two kids, Yeah, I got a five year old and
a three year old, both boys.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Wow wow yeah yeah, yeah they are they are.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Animals. I mean, it's a feral community over here. It's
like man, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My wife, she we've been together actually eight years this November,
and she she's she's an amazing mom.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, I'm I'm uh, you know, I'm always kind
of going all over the place and she has it
on lockdown, you know, which is.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Needed yang kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Very much, Yeah, very much. She gets it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
She gets all the heavy lifting and I get all
the light fun stuff. It seems yeah, but does seem
like a fair distribution to stuff. I love that. And
then Trista we were talking. Trista is going to have
she has a seventeen year old and a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
That's crazy, Trista, I do.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I was just saying that I cannot believe he's going
to be eighteen in July, Like I will have an adult. Yeah,
by definition in my house, as you know, in addition
to me and Ryan. But then he's got to.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Go like, yeah, he's got to fly away after eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know I have so many friends going through that
right now. Have you guys heard of the term soil
the nest?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, they have heard that term.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, so before kids leave for college, supposedly there's this
like phenomenon where kids actually become like pretty rude to
their parents and they like, you know, act like you know,
douchebags or whatever you want to say, because they're trying
to like soil the nest, so it's easier for them
(10:10):
to leave, like subconsciously.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I think that was the same way now that you're talking.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I was, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes I wasn't. I was like I loved my nest.
That was all about my nest.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, good, Well that gives me hope that he won't
want to soil the nest, and he'll he'll want to
be just perfectly lovely to his mind.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think, I think Canyon.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think my wife soils the nest every time I
leave town for a work because she's not like, she's
not like the one that's like, you know, oh.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
My god, call me, I'm gonna miss you so bad.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
She's always like get out, you know, take your bag.
I'll see it Sunday. She's soiling her nest, so to speak.
I know if that applies to adult relationships.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I have a.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Feeling that maybe she feels like there are three children
in her house and so getting rid of one of them.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You stole my joke. I swear to you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was going to say that earlier when you were
going to go when you were like, you know, we're
gonna have three adults in the house with Max, Ryan
and myself, and I was like, man, if your kid
was here, we'd still just have two.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But I understand, I understand where you're going with that.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Well, I do have to say something, Trista. If it
weren't for you actually marrying Ryan, I don't think that
this series would have gone on.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Oh I agree, I agree.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
So you know, I mean I appreciate, I mean, I
love the fact that you are still together, and you know,
it wouldn't have been a series at all.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, it's funny because people have said that over
the years, and it's not like we planned it or
no did that because we had any contention of like
keeping the show afloat and who knows if that's truly
you know, played a part. But that's very sweet of you,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, No, it's true, it's not sweet.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I agree with Meredith because you can only do do
that formula so many times and if it doesn't work
then it's like then it's like every other.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know, dating show out there.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Instead you guys, you guys found love, like real love
and it and it gave everyone enough.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think it like proved the concept enough. Yeah, exactly.
I agree with Meredith on that for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Did you watch the show, Meredith before you applied or
tell us your application story, like did you get nominated
or reply or how did that.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It's interesting because I was living in LA and modeling
at the time, and I was living with my roommate
that I decided to, you know, bring her from Portland
to LA and she was a talent agent and she
sent me up without me knowing.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Oh, I have zero clue that she signed me up up.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, So I got surprised by a friend of mine
at her house that said, Okay, You're gonna be on
the Bacherette or the Bachelor, And I'm like, what, like yeah,
(13:22):
but with the cameras.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And everything around and I'm like, okay, I mean, I
can do it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're so funny. You're similar to Ryan. I feel like
I've always said that he can't say no, and so
that's why he ended up on the show because this
a friend nominated him and a bunch of other guys
that she was friends with, and they picked him and
he couldn't say no. So are you the same like
you just you're like, okay, fine, yes.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
In that scenario.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Working in the industry that I'm working in now, I
am finding a way to say no. Personal good you know,
body wise, I'm getting older. I just turned fifty one.
It doesn't work the same.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, right, No, it doesn't fifty one. You're just a baby, Meredith. Oh,
I'm fifty three.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm the oldest person on this call right now. What
and the elder statesman? Yes, you know what, Meredith. I
actually remember that because our origin story was very similar,
because I didn't submit myself to be on the show either,
and I got kind of I thought it was a joke,
and trist has heard the story a million times.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
But Lacey Pemberton was the casting director who.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Was calling me, and I I thought it was a joke,
you know, because her name was Lacey from the Bachelor,
and I didn't submit my own information, so I'm like, oh, okay, Lacey,
if that's your real name, you know, I thought it
was really funny, right, And finally she finally she's just like, Okay,
I got guys begging to on the show to meet Trista,
and you don't seem to understand what's at stay here.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So I'm gonna fly you out because I can't get
you off my mind because you're like being funny about it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And then I just sort of you know that. Of
course I did meet Trista, and you know, she fell
in love, but I told her not enough, not Trista,
there's not enough of me to go around.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Wait, that's not how it went.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I mean, I love y'all's like correlation with each other.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I mean, it's never going to stop, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean, I know it's crazy. You know, it's funny, though, Trista, Trista,
I think, will she'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I remember Ryan and I were like bunk bed mates,
like our bunks were right next to.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Her, to each other.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And I would come back to the room man and
Ryan be he would be you know, working on the poetry,
and I'd be working on my seventeenth vodka soda.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It was just it was one of those things.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I was like, God, I love him, I love him
for her and I love her. And it was like,
but I mean, of course, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You're competitive and you're in this thing, and you don't
want to be a dude kicked to the curb, and
you want to find out if you have a love
connection too, especially when it's Trista, you.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Know, and I know it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
So let me ask you this, Why Bob was I
the fourth one to be let go?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I know in my mind, why, Well, there's a few
things you speak, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think part of me was, uh, you know, you're
you're so like in those moments, you're so kind of
like pulled in a million directions, right, I mean, you know,
after having done the show, it's such a different experience
when you're handing out the flower as opposed to the
one who was waiting for a flower, you know. And
I mean I think that's what really kind of galvanized
(17:06):
mine in Trista's friendship too, was after I had been
on her season and I knew. I was like, I
love this person, like we get along so great, you know,
and then I go on to be the baster guy,
and I now understood the burden of going through that,
you know, and you don't no one's done anything wrong,
and you're just trying to like put it all together
and be like, I don't know, I feel a connection here.
(17:26):
I don't feel I don't know what I'm feeling, but
part of it for me too. And if you remember,
I'm sure you remember. I'm sorry to even say that,
but your grandmother passed away during our season, and it
kind of it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Kind of rocked my world a little bit. I won't lie.
I was like, I need to go home.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, well, well in our date that date was actually
really kind of hysterical when you think about it. We
go on this date and Meredith is a total trooper.
She's like, no, I really want to be here, and
my grandma would want me to continue and stuff. So
we go on this date in and Meredith jump in
if I'm I never want the facts to get in
a way of a good story. So I may have
(18:07):
manipulated some of this in my head. But we go
to Seal Beat, we get on. We get on the
horseback right, and we're trotting down the beach. We're galloping
along in the in the in the and I looked
over like this, well, I'm like this because I'm hold
the reins. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like I'm cowboys.
(18:29):
I'm like, I'm like a badass rider in my mind. Again,
don't let the facts get in the way of the
real story here. I hadn't read, I hadn't ridden a
horse since boy Scout camp, and like, you know, I know,
no one would have guessed the way I was commanding
that thing. But as we're going down the beach, and
here's the story that I remember in my head. I
remember looking over at Meredith and she looks all lovely
(18:50):
and her hair is flowing in the wind and everything.
But I can tell she's got like a her eyes
are watering, you know, maybe like a little itchy throw.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
She's like, I'm like okay, and she's like, I don't know,
I might be mildly allergic to horses. This is this
is how I remember this.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I have my mic on and I know I'm miked,
and I'm like, you guys gotta be kidding me. I
think Meredith might be having like some type of allergies
or something. So we pull up to this sand castle
that I have to make Meredith think that I came
out there earlier and constructed this thing.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Out of sand.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, like I made us the sand castle, which I
totally did not, you know, And I think, I tell
you at the time, like I had nothing to do it.
And we go inside and now I pull out of
the sand under a piece of wood, a steaming like
a crawfish broil style, and this is what we're supposed
to have on our plates, which is like all this shellfish.
And Meredith goes, I am like deathly allergic shellfish. I am,
(19:43):
I right on this my idea. You're like, I'm allergic shelfish.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, all I remember is like yelling at the producers
in my like I step outside of the thing.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I'm like, guys, she's allergic shellfisch.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
What I remember is the horse ride and then us
just talking about everything. I don't remember the shellfish story
at all.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Are you allergic to shellfish?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
No, okay, do you like shelfish?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Tristes allergic to shellfish?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I'm allergic to the shellfish. I hate shellfish. I don't
like seafood.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You like seafood, not even well you never had Meredith.
Meredith's job.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
She can make something, it's the texture. She can't change
the texture.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Well, if it's cooked correctly, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It doesn't matter. Like the chewiness. I just and the
smell of fish, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What about like a light flaky Chilian sea bass that
I mean, have a.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Little bit like salmon or I know I've had sea bass. Whatever,
We'll have a little bit of it, catfish. I've tried to.
I don't I'm not a seafood girl. I just you know, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know it every day.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But so you remember a totally different story, Meredith than
Bob does.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And that's still horses, horses and sand castles are accurate.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, I do remember candles in there. Oh I remember
Jase Garbone was there.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Was Jason on your season two?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Meredith?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, sir. So I remember just feeling
kind of odd because like my friend just lived right
up the street. You know the scene or you know
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But it is a scene.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, you and my grandmother just died, and the way
they did it, I think with the phone call and
it was my first date with you, and all the
girls decided that it was going to be me, and
then the phone rang and I was getting ready and
(22:06):
then I got the news and I had to kind
of hide all of emotion. And I don't think that
was correct. I don't know if they do that anymore.
But you know, it wasn't fair to you, and it
wasn't fair to me.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Do you feel like, because I feel like lately on
the seasons, if something like that has happened, I actually,
as a viewer, love that it's like being discussed because
it's like a real life conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
None of us can avoid death, right, And so do
you when you look back at that, do you feel
like you wish you would have been more like in
tune with your emotions instead of saying, you know what,
I need to be like present on the state and
not think about the fact that I just lost my
grandmother and I'm really sad. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I do know what you mean.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And you know I spoke with my mom and my
brother was on the same line and they're like, you're there.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Just do what you need you know what you need to.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Do, and yeah, I said, you know, I want to
come home and like it's not it's not for you
to come home, and we'll deal with this when you
do come home. And that is how I process that,
and yeah, of course you know it's yeah, and that's
(23:37):
not wrong young that It was like, yeah, okay, when
I'm told to do something, yeah I'll stay and yeah,
it actually helped me out to not forget, but just
for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, totally, Yeah, I will say it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uh, it was hard for me on my end, not
nearly as hard as it was for you, but liked
tell you, they told me when and that's why. I
don't know if you remember this part either, but I
asked if we could talk for a little bit before
we went on this date, and you came out to
the limo.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We had a big g limo thing.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I was like, yeah, I remember, if you want
to go home, I think that's totally okay because I
think I would go home right now.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well, I remember because the cameras weren't on and they
were pissed.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Off about that because we actually talked, right.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, I had my makeup bag in there, and so
they were mad that we actually had a conversation without
them filming.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, but I didn't want Like I was like, I
felt like it was just such a violation, you know.
I was like, she needs a minute and not with me, guys,
like she hardly even knows me, Like this is not
fair to her. And then yeah, and then they were
you were like, you know, oh, man, I was so
annoyed by that. And then when they asked, you know,
and then I I wanted you to be able to
(24:56):
see your family too, and they were like, you know, well,
because I said, I go, I go, what happens if?
Because I was like trying to weigh out what to do.
Quite honestly, I was like, like, what happens if, Like
does she get to go home and see her family
if I don't give her a rose? And they're like, nope,
she'll be on she'll be sequestered, And I'm like, and
if I give her a.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Rose, does she get to see her family?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Like yeah, now, I was going to give you a
rose anyway, quite honestly, but but I was also at
that point where I was kind of like, because I
won't give her a flower, if she gets to go home,
cinner like, because I wanted you to do to get to
go home, you know. And and then I got to
meet your family and it was a sense at a
time for everyone, of course, and that was tough. And
I really, you know, I really love I remember your brother,
and I remember your mom and dad being such lovely people,
(25:38):
and you know, I remember being in your house in Portland.
And but there again, the thing I remembered, you know,
the most, was our first stop on that date was
to the cemetery, and I.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Remember thinking, this is just not right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
She should be here with her family, not with me,
like I remember I was, so I was struggling, man,
I was struggling with the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Well, yeah, I was too.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
And you know when the producers ask you, you know,
what do you want to do? What do you want
to do? And you know, I haven't seen my family
for so long.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah that's maybe what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
And it was probably incorrect, but you know, at least
I had people around me and helping me out.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I remember it well.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I remember thinking to myself, like, gosh, she should be here,
not with me in a camera crew like it should
be in her family, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, it was tough. That was tough because I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I didn't know the right thing to say, you know,
And normally I'm pretty good in those moments that you know,
but in that one, I was just like, I don't
even really know what to say.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Probably should have said something funny, which.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I think I did.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, like or at least part or something.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know. Yeah, that's just what that just doesn't happen.
I don't think I'm capable of that.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh yeah, no, I'm sure you're not. No, let's get
Jass on the phone.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah. Yeah, she'll be like, oh my god, don't get
my kids on the phone. They're the ones they'll tell
the truth.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So as a bachelor, then you get
asked to be bachelorette and what were your initial thoughts
on that and did you need a lot of convincing.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, this is.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Kind of a long but short story. Kelly Joe was
actually originally to be the bachelor.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We talked to her about that, did you Yeah, And
then she I.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Was living in LA and she met somebody and she
was like, no, I mean I'm not going to do it. Yeah,
I guess that was the second choice. So you know,
I mean it made I mean, Kelly Joe is awesome.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I mean I yeah, I mean she's awesome, a bundle
of energy and yeah, you know she's an entrepreneur and
leverage of that. But I remember being on the phone
with her in LA when it happened with her mom.
Her mom's awesome too, Yeah, And I said, are you
(28:24):
sure that you don't want to take this? Yeah, I
and the jobs, so to speak, and she's like, no's
like you take it. And then I asked my family
and they're like why not, you know, And I almost
(28:44):
said no, because I'd rather just remain you know, a
model and you know, work for hospitals.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
But yeah, uh do.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You because obviously you didn't end up with Ian. No,
that's another no, I know, But do you do you
look back on that and have any regrets?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I do have some regrets.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
When Ian came out of that limo of the last one,
I mean, that was on purpose. Let's be honest. That
was on purpose because you know, they say I fixed
this tie, but I just knew right then. So it
was like, oh, great, I have.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Two and a half and like maybe a month and
a half because I guess my show was.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Like the fastest that they shot, so I didn't really
have have a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
To consider anyone else, Like, I don't know how long.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Did you guys?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
How long you shat?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, okay, that's just what it was back then.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But that's what it was back then.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Now it's like, you know, that's why I think now
the casting is so different, because if you don't have
three months to go to the Netherlands or Thailand, you're
not that right.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I mean, okay, first of all, let's talk about that.
We don't have to talk about the money wise and
what we got paid, because obviously that's not okay, but
I didn't, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So, but it's just it's transpired into something that I
don't really want to watch it anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh you'll watch it at all.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't. I don't have TV.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh interesting, I would not survive without television. Let me
put that on record.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Considering the fact that I was on the phone with
my U, my internet provider and able provider right before
this call going my TV's not working.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Right, Honestly, I was just watching Max play hockey on
my television because we have happy YouTube app or whatever
on there and I get, you know, put it up
on my on my screen and watch him kind of.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Like he's right there skating in my living room.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, how's Ryan.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He's good. He's he's feeling good and he's happy to
not be commuting two hours to work, which was what
he was doing. We just moved to dinner. Yeah, so
he's good.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So going back, I feel like we got we got
highjuction for some reason. I don't know. But do you
have any regrets about the show and Bachelorette or Bachelor
or life after?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I do have some regrets from the Bachelorette, meaning that
I was kind of told what to do and instead
of me doing what I really wanted to do, got
it and you know, being you know, picking out like
(32:42):
the rings and all that and lied to about how much.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
They cost and what do you mean what do you
mean they lied to you about how much they cost?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah? I mean I was, I picked out three rings.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So you okay, you picked out three rings? Because I
don't know if I.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Did you get that?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
If I picked that rings? Did I went to her instant?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I got a choice.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I was gonna say. I thought they would make the
girls like choose.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
They liked and then the guys basically was to choose
from exactly yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So I mean I picked out the one that I liked.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I I regret.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I know, I don't really want to say this, I guess,
but I'm going to One of the producers said, if
you don't give her this ring.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Just do it for me. That's all I'm going to
say about that.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
What meaning like, if you don't want to propose, just
do it anyway type of thing.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh, Like, basically you're saying like they were give her
the ring purpose? Yeah yeah, is that what he told
you afterwards.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The producer did? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, Oh the producer actually told you that he said that, Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
That was kind of disappointing.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I mean it was kind of like a want like,
so you so you're engaged at this point and you
hear from the producer that he told Ian to propose
or else. Essentially, I'm sure if that was me, I
would be like, wait, what, I had no idea, like
(34:35):
if they.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Gave him a bunch of alcohol, probably, I mean the
producer or Ian, they gave Ian a bunch of alcohol
because he didn't see okay, I mean he didn't seem
right to me.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I mean I had nothing to drink.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
So I'm just waiting there, you know, who's going to
come through, And I'm waiting for him, and he's drunk
as a skunk and he gets down on one knee.
Well actually, if you remember, he actually stood instead of
got down on one knee.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Okay, proposed and the producer was like.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, and he's like, I mean he's Brazilian.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Mean coaching romance, right.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Have you had any contact with him after your breakup?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think he's back in Brazil, but no, no, they haven't.
I don't think for some reason, he doesn't want any
correlation with the show. Yeah, so some people are like
that after their experience on the show.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean Alex Rochelle's like that, right, I mean, the
original Bachelor, He's he's never wanted.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Anything to do with it. Yeah, Charlie Charlie Maher, who
was from Trista's season.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, yeah, he and I became really good buddies. Share
a birthday like every year, like it's up five eight,
you know, cause it's May eight. But yeah, he has,
he has no connection to it all. Well he did
for a little while after, remember he went to work.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
For it, did Yeah, he did. And some people are
like that, they just want to return back to normal life.
Totally understand that, Like it's all it's all good. I mean,
it's kind of a different beast these days with Bachelor Nation,
and you know, just how if you're on the show,
you were affiliated and it's kind of hard to break away.
But I totally understand that.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
I never had, I mean a bad experience, but it
was still new.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I mean we all went through I mean the newness
of it, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think I think the producers were learning as much
about it at that time as we were, you know
what I mean, because I mean I talk to him
now like I still, you know, randomly keep in touch
with Carbone every now and then, Sally Michael Charles. Yeah, Yeah,
their experiences were so new then too, they were, and
I mean I don't think they always feel so good
about Stuffy they had to do as producers sometimes when
(37:05):
it would really it was fun, fascinating.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, we had fun then I think it got dark
years later.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, Yeah, but I will say they do still have fun.
So I've been on a couple of the recent shows,
and I love the producers now too. I mean, obviously
I have very strong bond with the producers back in
our day, but but they do still have so much fun.
(37:32):
I just love that. I love the energy of the
people behind the scenes, all the all the crew, you know,
the producers, the director Ken Fuchs and you know for
the live shows and stuff. But I do still love
the energy, So I will say that they do still.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I mean, nothing was I mean everything was as it
is reality when it was TV. So I don't know,
if you know the Bachelor or about for rut now
a day, if it's are you supposed to say.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Something that you're not or you know, I think you
just like honestly, I feel like they probably prompt people still.
I know they do, you know, because they have interview
questions and stuff that they ask you in your itms,
and but they do. I I think I still believe,
(38:33):
because I've been on set for the last few shows,
that there are like dates where they take you and
then it's like they're just there as like a fly
on the wall. And I I there are people who
still believe that it's scripted, and I still will defend
the fact that it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's yeah, yeah, it wasn't for us. I mean it
wasn't on mine Inmeredith's season, so it wasn't from Tristan
my season either. So yeah, I can say, you know,
from having gone from the bachelright to the Bachelor, that
I was never told what to say or you know,
I was told, but I was I was told about
situations right, Like I was told on the first night.
(39:15):
These three girls are kind of mad at this girl.
Here's what we're thinking you did.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I don't think they get involved.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I asked for her.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I was like, I was like, if you want me
to go up there and grab somebody, I need to
know why, Like what are you.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Guys doing amazing?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I mean, so they said they'd be like, well, these
three girls seem to not like this girl, so we
want you to come up and ask this girl for
a moment ago you know, like the moment might have
been not scripted, but the moment might have been arranged
to a certain degree.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
But I understood why. I got well, but.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
You know, you know, I mean, you're asked to do
you know, the bio, all the paperwork, right, before you're
accepted to be this person in reality TV. Do you
remember filling all that stuff out and doing, yeah, the
psychologue work and all that.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
So it's a play like Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Well we're going to have her too. She's not gonna
like that one, but this one's probably going to get
together with this one, and then you know, I mean
it is an orchestra.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean you have to know the people who
are coming on the show. I think the psychological testing
and all of that is really important because it is important. Yeah,
you need to know. And honestly, I loved doing it
because I'm like, I want to I want to know
about myself, Like I don't need the results. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Doing it too exactly, you know, Yeah it was fun
for me.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I would love for you to just tell everyone how
life is now, Like are you are you happy that
you were on the show, and like, what were the
good good parts of being on the show and what
you've taken away to this stuff.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
I am definitely happy that I was on the show
for that many years and that I chose to actually
accept and be on it and be a part of
this family.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I don't I don't have any negativity towards d series
at all good? Not at all good.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I'm glad. I mean that's good. I think it's.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
You know, my experience, your experience. I can't say for others,
but it was really really good and it was learning experience,
I think for all of us because early. And yeah,
as far as my.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Job wise, it's great. I love working for hospitals.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
I love what I do, and I actually would just
like to meet somebody.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Finally, Yeah, I was just that was my next question.
So you're still single?
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, which are you actively dating? Like, are you on
apps or anything like that. I'm not on apps.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
I'm constantly working, but I would like to meet somebody
that's free.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, you know, I just well, hey, anyone listening out
there who has somebody in the Northwest who is around
their fifties. And I was going to say, give Meredith
a DM, but you're not on Instagram or any social
are you.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I do have Instagram?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
And I, oh, you do have Instagram. Okay, well I've
learned something new today, So yeah, give give Meredith a DM.
We're going to set you up on the show. I'm
going to play match maker.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Okay, interest, it's your job.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Now to find me a suitor.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Oh yes, I'm going to play matchmaker. Well you know. Okay,
So this podcast is basically we are kind of little
side group sidekicks or what do you call it when
there's a show that takes a different path, like has
a different cast? Uh what do you call it? X? Yeah,
(43:21):
spin off that's the word, thank you, Maddie. So it's
like a spin off. So Ashley and Ben have this podcast,
the almost Famous Podcast, and we came on Bob and
I to talk to the ogs. So yeah, I'm I
were part of this bigger, almost famous podcast world, and
(43:44):
we are super grateful. So if I if I don't
hear from people, it's not because people are not reaching out.
It's because I just don't. It's somebody else's podcast, do
you know what I mean? But yeah, no, oh I
love it. What is your Instagram handle? Let's put it
up here just in case.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Look, Oh she.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Doesn't know it.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
No, I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm always at work, so so you're on it a lot.
I take chef chef Merety jeff ah see, there we go.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Chef Chef Merety. That's my real name, not I changed
it to Meredith. But that's my real name.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Wait what tell me?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Wait, your real name is Meredy Meredy Yeah, m E
R E d y m hm. Oh my gosh, I
never knew that.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
That's so crazy. So you changed it right before the show?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
No, I changed it when I was sixteen because I
thought it sounded more official, you know, Meredith.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Sounds a little bit more like adult to tour.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah. Do you call yourself Meredina?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
No, Meredith, okay, chef.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I was like, did you go back to it?
Speaker 5 (45:14):
I might at some point.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I mean, hey, whatever, lot it.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
My friends here in the Northwest they just called me
Merity oor Mayor and yeah, of course of course.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, so I love that. I actually might. I'm gonna
call you Maridina. I've changing your.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Contact information, Meredith.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
It was so great to catch up again reconnect. Thank
you so much for taking the time to chat with
Bobby and I. I know, guys, goodbye. I'm sorry he
got disconnected, but now that's what.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
You so much. It was nice to catch up. Hopefully
we can do it again, of course.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Amazing, Thanks Meredith, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
M
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Trista Welcome. Let's welcome everyone back to Almost Famous the Ogs.
We are coming at you live and in technicolor today.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yes, good morning, Good.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Morning to you, Good morning to you. I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I know I'm excited. I think that we talked about this,
but it's been a trend lately to have some exes
of Bob's on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's already forgotten about that. We did. Yeah,
we literally have. We've just been lighting up the scoreboard
with all my exes lately. We got to start digging through.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The Bachelor annals and start bringing out some of Trista's
skeletons in the closet from the back in the day.
We recently, we recently had on my ex wife, Rebecca Budig,
and then we are not We've had on Estella Gardner
for my season. We've had on Kelly Joe Kaharski, and
(00:58):
now today we're going to interview Meredith Phillips. And Meredith
was the fourth runner up on my season of the
Bachelor and later went on to become the Bachelorette in
her own right, and and We've tried to set up
this set of you a couple of times now, and
we're hopeful that life is busy.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Works out today.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, very busy, very busy for everyone, absolutely, but yeah
not us, not us. Tea dog, tea, money, and I
are always available always. Yeah, I mean, you know, five
year old's, three year old's, sixteen year olds and fourteen
year olds?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Are those the ages of our respect very close? Fifteen
and seventeen. I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That the other day.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I almost have an eighteen year old son. Like July
next year, I will have an eight like a full
fledged adult. I will have an adult. Yeah, we have
a third adult in our house.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So when is Max's birthday? July Ony twenty six?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, Chris Harrison.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh that's right. I knew that was a special day. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So you know yet another thing that you haven't in
tune with, Chris Harrison there. Yeah, I was thinking because
my son Blake is July first, so I was wondering, Uh,
you know where that birthday was? But gosh, I do
I remember, like it was yesterday when you when you
guys had Max.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh me too, Yeah, I remember, well, I remember it
for a myriad of reasons.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
One, it's like all of a sudden, you start taking
stock of your own life and you're like, what am
I doing exactly when you have a kid. You know,
I'm sitting here flying solo at the time. I'm sure,
but you found a place.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I did. It just took me a little more time
than some that's all.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, yeah, a little more time, but we made it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know, we're done with the fiddle around the gold
Rush era.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, Bob was just talking before we started the show.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But it really makes me solid and I throw in
the fiddley f yeah, because you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do have to throw in the arms and you know, canation.
Like Ryan just went to North Dakota and he was
saying that it is like all it's like super old school,
like a like a black and white like cowboy movie film,
you know, and all these farms and everyone's wearing cowboy
(03:21):
hats and probably walking around like this.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, like gold Rush era.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, I think it's pretty crazy when you visit, you know,
some of those places like Montana's like that. You go
to Montana and it is just absolutely crazy, you know.
I mean, it's all like and I want to I
want to spend more time in those places myself personally.
But to know further ado or too much further ado?
What do I say too, without any further.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ado, without any further ado.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, without any further ado.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Let's bring in our guest, my ex girlfriend from the
Bachelor at season four.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And also what Bachelette was she?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
She was right after you, right, so we got to
bring her on. Then let's bring her on. Let's bring
on Meredith Phillips on to the Bacheorette or Therette the
almost famous anymore? Dude, No, we are not, So let's
bring her in. I'm very excited to get to talk
to her. I haven't seen her in many, many, many years.
(04:21):
Welcome to the show whenever we can bring her in.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Hi, Meredith Rye.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
It's a day all day here in the Northwest, so
it's raining, and I thought that you you know, I know.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But that's that's a normal fall day in the serving Northwest.
I was in Seattle for quite a few years. I
loved it.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, I mean the fall leaves and everything is so pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I love that. I love fall. I am just I'm
on it on track to go visit my family back
in the Midwest, and I cannot wait to see the
fall leaves. If it is, how is it in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, it's it's it's very fall. All the fall colors
are full in bloom.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Are you back in Michigan?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I am. Yeah. I moved back to right before COVID. Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm so happy that I did because I got to
spend time with my dad before he passed away, and
my kids got to meet him, and so that was
pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
But Meredith, welcome to the show. How's your family, how's
everyone doing well?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I lost both my parents. Oh within a two year period.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh, oh, my gosh, very very hard.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's brutal, brutal.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
My dad died of a heart attack in his sleep.
In his sleep. Yeah, he didn't know.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I mean obviously, I mean it's he didn't know.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That's a blessing. I contend that's a blessing, right, I guess.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
My mom said to me that she laid with him
for a little it before she called the ambulance.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ah, that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Uh. And then my brother and my mom didn't tell
me because I'm so emotional a lot of the time,
until a couple of days later.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I was living in La at the time.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Wow. Yeah, and then my mom had just you know,
not to put it lightly, but cancer.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, you know, so cancer sucks. That's what got my
dad too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Where are you now, Meredith?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
You're in I'm in the Northwest, okay, Yeah, you came
back from the South. I moved to the Carolinas, which lordie,
I mean, I feel for them right now right now.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I got out of it.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
But it's you know, I knew it was coming, and
I work for hospitals, so it's, oh you do you're.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Not in weren't you a chef? You are a chef
chef hospitals? Oh? No, kidding, that's an Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wow, my name on.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
My shirt and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Are you like, do you actually work in the hospital
or is this like a remote job where you just
set things up or I have.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
A base here in the Northwest and then I travel
to other hospitals that need me. So it's it works
for me.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Do people recognize you from the shell When I first got.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
To the hospital that is my base, Yes, they googled
me because because it's a bear hospital. Yeah, the tinier ones,
they're like, we don't care. You know, they're not They're
not going to look for me, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But how about you guys, I mean, Bob I didn't
know yet.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Two kids, Yeah, I got a five year old and
a three year old, both boys.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Wow wow yeah yeah, yeah they are they are.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Animals. I mean, it's a feral community over here. It's
like man, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My wife, she we've been together actually eight years this November,
and she she's she's an amazing mom.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, I'm I'm uh, you know, I'm always kind
of going all over the place and she has it
on lockdown, you know, which is.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Needed yang kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Very much, Yeah, very much. She gets it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
She gets all the heavy lifting and I get all
the light fun stuff. It seems yeah, but does seem
like a fair distribution to stuff. I love that. And
then Trista we were talking. Trista is going to have
she has a seventeen year old and a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
That's crazy, Trista, I do.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I was just saying that I cannot believe he's going
to be eighteen in July, Like I will have an adult. Yeah,
by definition in my house, as you know, in addition
to me and Ryan. But then he's got to.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Go like, yeah, he's got to fly away after eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know I have so many friends going through that
right now. Have you guys heard of the term soil
the nest?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, they have heard that term.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, so before kids leave for college, supposedly there's this
like phenomenon where kids actually become like pretty rude to
their parents and they like, you know, act like you know,
douchebags or whatever you want to say, because they're trying
to like soil the nest, so it's easier for them
(10:10):
to leave, like subconsciously.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I think that was the same way now that you're talking.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I was, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes I wasn't. I was like I loved my nest.
That was all about my nest.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, good, Well that gives me hope that he won't
want to soil the nest, and he'll he'll want to
be just perfectly lovely to his mind.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think, I think Canyon.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think my wife soils the nest every time I
leave town for a work because she's not like, she's
not like the one that's like, you know, oh.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
My god, call me, I'm gonna miss you so bad.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
She's always like get out, you know, take your bag.
I'll see it Sunday. She's soiling her nest, so to speak.
I know if that applies to adult relationships.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I have a.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Feeling that maybe she feels like there are three children
in her house and so getting rid of one of them.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You stole my joke. I swear to you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I was going to say that earlier when you were
going to go when you were like, you know, we're
gonna have three adults in the house with Max, Ryan
and myself, and I was like, man, if your kid
was here, we'd still just have two.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But I understand, I understand where you're going with that.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Well, I do have to say something, Trista. If it
weren't for you actually marrying Ryan, I don't think that
this series would have gone on.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Oh I agree, I agree.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
So you know, I mean I appreciate, I mean, I
love the fact that you are still together, and you know,
it wouldn't have been a series at all.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, it's funny because people have said that over
the years, and it's not like we planned it or
no did that because we had any contention of like
keeping the show afloat and who knows if that's truly
you know, played a part. But that's very sweet of you,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, No, it's true, it's not sweet.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I agree with Meredith because you can only do do
that formula so many times and if it doesn't work
then it's like then it's like every other.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know, dating show out there.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Instead you guys, you guys found love, like real love
and it and it gave everyone enough.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think it like proved the concept enough. Yeah, exactly.
I agree with Meredith on that for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Did you watch the show, Meredith before you applied or
tell us your application story, like did you get nominated
or reply or how did that.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It's interesting because I was living in LA and modeling
at the time, and I was living with my roommate
that I decided to, you know, bring her from Portland
to LA and she was a talent agent and she
sent me up without me knowing.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Oh, I have zero clue that she signed me up up.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, So I got surprised by a friend of mine
at her house that said, Okay, You're gonna be on
the Bacherette or the Bachelor, And I'm like, what, like yeah,
(13:22):
but with the cameras.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And everything around and I'm like, okay, I mean, I
can do it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're so funny. You're similar to Ryan. I feel like
I've always said that he can't say no, and so
that's why he ended up on the show because this
a friend nominated him and a bunch of other guys
that she was friends with, and they picked him and
he couldn't say no. So are you the same like
you just you're like, okay, fine, yes.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
In that scenario.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Working in the industry that I'm working in now, I
am finding a way to say no. Personal good you know,
body wise, I'm getting older. I just turned fifty one.
It doesn't work the same.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, right, No, it doesn't fifty one. You're just a baby, Meredith. Oh,
I'm fifty three.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm the oldest person on this call right now. What
and the elder statesman? Yes, you know what, Meredith. I
actually remember that because our origin story was very similar,
because I didn't submit myself to be on the show either,
and I got kind of I thought it was a joke,
and trist has heard the story a million times.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
But Lacey Pemberton was the casting director who.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Was calling me, and I I thought it was a joke,
you know, because her name was Lacey from the Bachelor,
and I didn't submit my own information, so I'm like, oh, okay, Lacey,
if that's your real name, you know, I thought it
was really funny, right, And finally she finally she's just like, Okay,
I got guys begging to on the show to meet Trista,
and you don't seem to understand what's at stay here.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So I'm gonna fly you out because I can't get
you off my mind because you're like being funny about it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And then I just sort of you know that. Of
course I did meet Trista, and you know, she fell
in love, but I told her not enough, not Trista,
there's not enough of me to go around.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Wait, that's not how it went.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I mean, I love y'all's like correlation with each other.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I mean, it's never going to stop, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean, I know it's crazy. You know, it's funny, though, Trista, Trista,
I think, will she'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I remember Ryan and I were like bunk bed mates,
like our bunks were right next to.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Her, to each other.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And I would come back to the room man and
Ryan be he would be you know, working on the poetry,
and I'd be working on my seventeenth vodka soda.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It was just it was one of those things.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I was like, God, I love him, I love him
for her and I love her. And it was like,
but I mean, of course, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You're competitive and you're in this thing, and you don't
want to be a dude kicked to the curb, and
you want to find out if you have a love
connection too, especially when it's Trista, you.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Know, and I know it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
So let me ask you this, Why Bob was I
the fourth one to be let go?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I know in my mind, why, Well, there's a few
things you speak, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think part of me was, uh, you know, you're
you're so like in those moments, you're so kind of
like pulled in a million directions, right, I mean, you know,
after having done the show, it's such a different experience
when you're handing out the flower as opposed to the
one who was waiting for a flower, you know. And
I mean I think that's what really kind of galvanized
(17:06):
mine in Trista's friendship too, was after I had been
on her season and I knew. I was like, I
love this person, like we get along so great, you know,
and then I go on to be the baster guy,
and I now understood the burden of going through that,
you know, and you don't no one's done anything wrong,
and you're just trying to like put it all together
and be like, I don't know, I feel a connection here.
(17:26):
I don't feel I don't know what I'm feeling, but
part of it for me too. And if you remember,
I'm sure you remember. I'm sorry to even say that,
but your grandmother passed away during our season, and it
kind of it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Kind of rocked my world a little bit. I won't lie.
I was like, I need to go home.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, well, well in our date that date was actually
really kind of hysterical when you think about it. We
go on this date and Meredith is a total trooper.
She's like, no, I really want to be here, and
my grandma would want me to continue and stuff. So
we go on this date in and Meredith jump in
if I'm I never want the facts to get in
a way of a good story. So I may have
(18:07):
manipulated some of this in my head. But we go
to Seal Beat, we get on. We get on the
horseback right, and we're trotting down the beach. We're galloping
along in the in the in the and I looked
over like this, well, I'm like this because I'm hold
the reins. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like I'm cowboys.
(18:29):
I'm like, I'm like a badass rider in my mind. Again,
don't let the facts get in the way of the
real story here. I hadn't read, I hadn't ridden a
horse since boy Scout camp, and like, you know, I know,
no one would have guessed the way I was commanding
that thing. But as we're going down the beach, and
here's the story that I remember in my head. I
remember looking over at Meredith and she looks all lovely
(18:50):
and her hair is flowing in the wind and everything.
But I can tell she's got like a her eyes
are watering, you know, maybe like a little itchy throw.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
She's like, I'm like okay, and she's like, I don't know,
I might be mildly allergic to horses. This is this
is how I remember this.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I have my mic on and I know I'm miked,
and I'm like, you guys gotta be kidding me. I
think Meredith might be having like some type of allergies
or something. So we pull up to this sand castle
that I have to make Meredith think that I came
out there earlier and constructed this thing.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Out of sand.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, like I made us the sand castle, which I
totally did not, you know, And I think, I tell
you at the time, like I had nothing to do it.
And we go inside and now I pull out of
the sand under a piece of wood, a steaming like
a crawfish broil style, and this is what we're supposed
to have on our plates, which is like all this shellfish.
And Meredith goes, I am like deathly allergic shellfish. I am,
(19:43):
I right on this my idea. You're like, I'm allergic shelfish.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, all I remember is like yelling at the producers
in my like I step outside of the thing.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I'm like, guys, she's allergic shellfisch.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
What I remember is the horse ride and then us
just talking about everything. I don't remember the shellfish story
at all.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Are you allergic to shellfish?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
No, okay, do you like shelfish?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Tristes allergic to shellfish?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I'm allergic to the shellfish. I hate shellfish. I don't
like seafood.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You like seafood, not even well you never had Meredith.
Meredith's job.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
She can make something, it's the texture. She can't change
the texture.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Well, if it's cooked correctly, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It doesn't matter. Like the chewiness. I just and the
smell of fish, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What about like a light flaky Chilian sea bass that
I mean, have a.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Little bit like salmon or I know I've had sea bass. Whatever,
We'll have a little bit of it, catfish. I've tried to.
I don't I'm not a seafood girl. I just you know, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know it every day.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But so you remember a totally different story, Meredith than
Bob does.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And that's still horses, horses and sand castles are accurate.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, I do remember candles in there. Oh I remember
Jase Garbone was there.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Was Jason on your season two?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Meredith?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, sir. So I remember just feeling
kind of odd because like my friend just lived right
up the street. You know the scene or you know
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But it is a scene.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, you and my grandmother just died, and the way
they did it, I think with the phone call and
it was my first date with you, and all the
girls decided that it was going to be me, and
then the phone rang and I was getting ready and
(22:06):
then I got the news and I had to kind
of hide all of emotion. And I don't think that
was correct. I don't know if they do that anymore.
But you know, it wasn't fair to you, and it
wasn't fair to me.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Do you feel like, because I feel like lately on
the seasons, if something like that has happened, I actually,
as a viewer, love that it's like being discussed because
it's like a real life conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
None of us can avoid death, right, And so do
you when you look back at that, do you feel
like you wish you would have been more like in
tune with your emotions instead of saying, you know what,
I need to be like present on the state and
not think about the fact that I just lost my
grandmother and I'm really sad. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I do know what you mean.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And you know I spoke with my mom and my
brother was on the same line and they're like, you're there.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Just do what you need you know what you need to.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Do, and yeah, I said, you know, I want to
come home and like it's not it's not for you
to come home, and we'll deal with this when you
do come home. And that is how I process that,
and yeah, of course you know it's yeah, and that's
(23:37):
not wrong young that It was like, yeah, okay, when
I'm told to do something, yeah I'll stay and yeah,
it actually helped me out to not forget, but just
for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, totally, Yeah, I will say it was. It was.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uh, it was hard for me on my end, not
nearly as hard as it was for you, but liked
tell you, they told me when and that's why. I
don't know if you remember this part either, but I
asked if we could talk for a little bit before
we went on this date, and you came out to
the limo.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We had a big g limo thing.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I was like, yeah, I remember, if you want
to go home, I think that's totally okay because I
think I would go home right now.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well, I remember because the cameras weren't on and they
were pissed.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Off about that because we actually talked, right.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, I had my makeup bag in there, and so
they were mad that we actually had a conversation without
them filming.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, but I didn't want Like I was like, I
felt like it was just such a violation, you know.
I was like, she needs a minute and not with me, guys,
like she hardly even knows me, Like this is not
fair to her. And then yeah, and then they were
you were like, you know, oh, man, I was so
annoyed by that. And then when they asked, you know,
and then I I wanted you to be able to
(24:56):
see your family too, and they were like, you know, well,
because I said, I go, I go, what happens if?
Because I was like trying to weigh out what to do.
Quite honestly, I was like, like, what happens if, Like
does she get to go home and see her family
if I don't give her a rose? And they're like, nope,
she'll be on she'll be sequestered, And I'm like, and
if I give her a.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Rose, does she get to see her family?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Like yeah, now, I was going to give you a
rose anyway, quite honestly, but but I was also at
that point where I was kind of like, because I
won't give her a flower, if she gets to go home,
cinner like, because I wanted you to do to get to
go home, you know. And and then I got to
meet your family and it was a sense at a
time for everyone, of course, and that was tough. And
I really, you know, I really love I remember your brother,
and I remember your mom and dad being such lovely people,
(25:38):
and you know, I remember being in your house in Portland.
And but there again, the thing I remembered, you know,
the most, was our first stop on that date was
to the cemetery, and I.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Remember thinking, this is just not right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
She should be here with her family, not with me,
like I remember I was, so I was struggling, man,
I was struggling with the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Well, yeah, I was too.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
And you know when the producers ask you, you know,
what do you want to do? What do you want
to do? And you know, I haven't seen my family
for so long.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah that's maybe what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
And it was probably incorrect, but you know, at least
I had people around me and helping me out.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I remember it well.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I remember thinking to myself, like, gosh, she should be here,
not with me in a camera crew like it should
be in her family, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, it was tough. That was tough because I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I didn't know the right thing to say, you know,
And normally I'm pretty good in those moments that you know,
but in that one, I was just like, I don't
even really know what to say.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Probably should have said something funny, which.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I think I did.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, like or at least part or something.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know. Yeah, that's just what that just doesn't happen.
I don't think I'm capable of that.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh yeah, no, I'm sure you're not. No, let's get
Jass on the phone.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah. Yeah, she'll be like, oh my god, don't get
my kids on the phone. They're the ones they'll tell
the truth.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So as a bachelor, then you get
asked to be bachelorette and what were your initial thoughts
on that and did you need a lot of convincing.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, this is.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Kind of a long but short story. Kelly Joe was
actually originally to be the bachelor.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We talked to her about that, did you Yeah, And
then she I.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Was living in LA and she met somebody and she
was like, no, I mean I'm not going to do it. Yeah,
I guess that was the second choice. So you know,
I mean it made I mean, Kelly Joe is awesome.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I mean I yeah, I mean she's awesome, a bundle
of energy and yeah, you know she's an entrepreneur and
leverage of that. But I remember being on the phone
with her in LA when it happened with her mom.
Her mom's awesome too, Yeah, And I said, are you
(28:24):
sure that you don't want to take this? Yeah, I
and the jobs, so to speak, and she's like, no's
like you take it. And then I asked my family
and they're like why not, you know, And I almost
(28:44):
said no, because I'd rather just remain you know, a
model and you know, work for hospitals.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
But yeah, uh do.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You because obviously you didn't end up with Ian. No,
that's another no, I know, But do you do you
look back on that and have any regrets?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I do have some regrets.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
When Ian came out of that limo of the last one,
I mean, that was on purpose. Let's be honest. That
was on purpose because you know, they say I fixed
this tie, but I just knew right then. So it
was like, oh, great, I have.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Two and a half and like maybe a month and
a half because I guess my show was.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Like the fastest that they shot, so I didn't really
have have a lot of time.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
To consider anyone else, Like, I don't know how long.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Did you guys?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
How long you shat?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, okay, that's just what it was back then.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But that's what it was back then.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Now it's like, you know, that's why I think now
the casting is so different, because if you don't have
three months to go to the Netherlands or Thailand, you're
not that right.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I mean, okay, first of all, let's talk about that.
We don't have to talk about the money wise and
what we got paid, because obviously that's not okay, but
I didn't, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So, but it's just it's transpired into something that I
don't really want to watch it anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Oh you'll watch it at all.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't. I don't have TV.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh interesting, I would not survive without television. Let me
put that on record.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Considering the fact that I was on the phone with
my U, my internet provider and able provider right before
this call going my TV's not working.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Right, Honestly, I was just watching Max play hockey on
my television because we have happy YouTube app or whatever
on there and I get, you know, put it up
on my on my screen and watch him kind of.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Like he's right there skating in my living room.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, how's Ryan.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He's good. He's he's feeling good and he's happy to
not be commuting two hours to work, which was what
he was doing. We just moved to dinner. Yeah, so
he's good.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So going back, I feel like we got we got
highjuction for some reason. I don't know. But do you
have any regrets about the show and Bachelorette or Bachelor
or life after?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I do have some regrets from the Bachelorette, meaning that
I was kind of told what to do and instead
of me doing what I really wanted to do, got
it and you know, being you know, picking out like
(32:42):
the rings and all that and lied to about how much.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
They cost and what do you mean what do you
mean they lied to you about how much they cost?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah? I mean I was, I picked out three rings.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So you okay, you picked out three rings? Because I
don't know if I.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Did you get that?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
If I picked that rings? Did I went to her instant?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I got a choice.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I was gonna say. I thought they would make the
girls like choose.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
They liked and then the guys basically was to choose
from exactly yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So I mean I picked out the one that I liked.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I I regret.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
I know, I don't really want to say this, I guess,
but I'm going to One of the producers said, if
you don't give her this ring.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Just do it for me. That's all I'm going to
say about that.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
What meaning like, if you don't want to propose, just
do it anyway type of thing.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh, Like, basically you're saying like they were give her
the ring purpose? Yeah yeah, is that what he told
you afterwards.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The producer did? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, Oh the producer actually told you that he said that, Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
That was kind of disappointing.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I mean it was kind of like a want like,
so you so you're engaged at this point and you
hear from the producer that he told Ian to propose
or else. Essentially, I'm sure if that was me, I
would be like, wait, what, I had no idea, like
(34:35):
if they.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Gave him a bunch of alcohol, probably, I mean the
producer or Ian, they gave Ian a bunch of alcohol
because he didn't see okay, I mean he didn't seem
right to me.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I mean I had nothing to drink.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
So I'm just waiting there, you know, who's going to
come through, And I'm waiting for him, and he's drunk
as a skunk and he gets down on one knee.
Well actually, if you remember, he actually stood instead of
got down on one knee.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Okay, proposed and the producer was like.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, and he's like, I mean he's Brazilian.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Mean coaching romance, right.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Have you had any contact with him after your breakup?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think he's back in Brazil, but no, no, they haven't.
I don't think for some reason, he doesn't want any
correlation with the show. Yeah, so some people are like
that after their experience on the show.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean Alex Rochelle's like that, right, I mean, the
original Bachelor, He's he's never wanted.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Anything to do with it. Yeah, Charlie Charlie Maher, who
was from Trista's season.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, yeah, he and I became really good buddies. Share
a birthday like every year, like it's up five eight,
you know, cause it's May eight. But yeah, he has,
he has no connection to it all. Well he did
for a little while after, remember he went to work.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
For it, did Yeah, he did. And some people are
like that, they just want to return back to normal life.
Totally understand that, Like it's all it's all good. I mean,
it's kind of a different beast these days with Bachelor Nation,
and you know, just how if you're on the show,
you were affiliated and it's kind of hard to break away.
But I totally understand that.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
I never had, I mean a bad experience, but it
was still new.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I mean we all went through I mean the newness
of it, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think I think the producers were learning as much
about it at that time as we were, you know
what I mean, because I mean I talk to him
now like I still, you know, randomly keep in touch
with Carbone every now and then, Sally Michael Charles. Yeah, Yeah,
their experiences were so new then too, they were, and
I mean I don't think they always feel so good
about Stuffy they had to do as producers sometimes when
(37:05):
it would really it was fun, fascinating.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, we had fun then I think it got dark
years later.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, Yeah, but I will say they do still have fun.
So I've been on a couple of the recent shows,
and I love the producers now too. I mean, obviously
I have very strong bond with the producers back in
our day, but but they do still have so much fun.
(37:32):
I just love that. I love the energy of the
people behind the scenes, all the all the crew, you know,
the producers, the director Ken Fuchs and you know for
the live shows and stuff. But I do still love
the energy, So I will say that they do still.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I mean, nothing was I mean everything was as it
is reality when it was TV. So I don't know,
if you know the Bachelor or about for rut now
a day, if it's are you supposed to say.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Something that you're not or you know, I think you
just like honestly, I feel like they probably prompt people still.
I know they do, you know, because they have interview
questions and stuff that they ask you in your itms,
and but they do. I I think I still believe,
(38:33):
because I've been on set for the last few shows,
that there are like dates where they take you and
then it's like they're just there as like a fly
on the wall. And I I there are people who
still believe that it's scripted, and I still will defend
the fact that it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's yeah, yeah, it wasn't for us. I mean it
wasn't on mine Inmeredith's season, so it wasn't from Tristan
my season either. So yeah, I can say, you know,
from having gone from the bachelright to the Bachelor, that
I was never told what to say or you know,
I was told, but I was I was told about
situations right, Like I was told on the first night.
(39:15):
These three girls are kind of mad at this girl.
Here's what we're thinking you did.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I don't think they get involved.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I asked for her.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I was like, I was like, if you want me
to go up there and grab somebody, I need to
know why, Like what are you.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Guys doing amazing?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I mean, so they said they'd be like, well, these
three girls seem to not like this girl, so we
want you to come up and ask this girl for
a moment ago you know, like the moment might have
been not scripted, but the moment might have been arranged
to a certain degree.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
But I understood why. I got well, but.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
You know, you know, I mean, you're asked to do
you know, the bio, all the paperwork, right, before you're
accepted to be this person in reality TV. Do you
remember filling all that stuff out and doing, yeah, the
psychologue work and all that.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
So it's a play like Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Well we're going to have her too. She's not gonna
like that one, but this one's probably going to get
together with this one, and then you know, I mean
it is an orchestra.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean you have to know the people who
are coming on the show. I think the psychological testing
and all of that is really important because it is important. Yeah,
you need to know. And honestly, I loved doing it
because I'm like, I want to I want to know
about myself, Like I don't need the results. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Doing it too exactly, you know, Yeah it was fun
for me.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I would love for you to just tell everyone how
life is now, Like are you are you happy that
you were on the show, and like, what were the
good good parts of being on the show and what
you've taken away to this stuff.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
I am definitely happy that I was on the show
for that many years and that I chose to actually
accept and be on it and be a part of
this family.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I don't I don't have any negativity towards d series
at all good? Not at all good.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I'm glad. I mean that's good. I think it's.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
You know, my experience, your experience. I can't say for others,
but it was really really good and it was learning experience,
I think for all of us because early. And yeah,
as far as my.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Job wise, it's great. I love working for hospitals.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
I love what I do, and I actually would just
like to meet somebody.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Finally, Yeah, I was just that was my next question.
So you're still single?
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, which are you actively dating? Like, are you on
apps or anything like that. I'm not on apps.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
I'm constantly working, but I would like to meet somebody
that's free.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, you know, I just well, hey, anyone listening out
there who has somebody in the Northwest who is around
their fifties. And I was going to say, give Meredith
a DM, but you're not on Instagram or any social
are you.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I do have Instagram?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
And I, oh, you do have Instagram. Okay, well I've
learned something new today, So yeah, give give Meredith a DM.
We're going to set you up on the show. I'm
going to play match maker.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Okay, interest, it's your job.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Now to find me a suitor.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Oh yes, I'm going to play matchmaker. Well you know. Okay,
So this podcast is basically we are kind of little
side group sidekicks or what do you call it when
there's a show that takes a different path, like has
a different cast? Uh what do you call it? X? Yeah,
(43:21):
spin off that's the word, thank you, Maddie. So it's
like a spin off. So Ashley and Ben have this podcast,
the almost Famous Podcast, and we came on Bob and
I to talk to the ogs. So yeah, I'm I
were part of this bigger, almost famous podcast world, and
(43:44):
we are super grateful. So if I if I don't
hear from people, it's not because people are not reaching out.
It's because I just don't. It's somebody else's podcast, do
you know what I mean? But yeah, no, oh I
love it. What is your Instagram handle? Let's put it
up here just in case.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Look, Oh she.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Doesn't know it.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
No, I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm always at work, so so you're on it a lot.
I take chef chef Merety jeff ah see, there we go.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Chef Chef Merety. That's my real name, not I changed
it to Meredith. But that's my real name.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Wait what tell me?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Wait, your real name is Meredy Meredy Yeah, m E
R E d y m hm. Oh my gosh, I
never knew that.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
That's so crazy. So you changed it right before the show?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
No, I changed it when I was sixteen because I
thought it sounded more official, you know, Meredith.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Sounds a little bit more like adult to tour.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah. Do you call yourself Meredina?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
No, Meredith, okay, chef.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I was like, did you go back to it?
Speaker 5 (45:14):
I might at some point.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I mean, hey, whatever, lot it.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
My friends here in the Northwest they just called me
Merity oor Mayor and yeah, of course of course.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, so I love that. I actually might. I'm gonna
call you Maridina. I've changing your.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Contact information, Meredith.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
It was so great to catch up again reconnect. Thank
you so much for taking the time to chat with
Bobby and I. I know, guys, goodbye. I'm sorry he
got disconnected, but now that's what.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
You so much. It was nice to catch up. Hopefully
we can do it again, of course.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Amazing, Thanks Meredith, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
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