Bachelor Countdown Day 6: Bob Guiney

Oprah Winfrey is the queen of giving out good advice, so when Bob Guiney had the opportunity to call for some in regards to being "The Bachelor," it was kinda a no-brainer! He's joining Ben & Ashley to discuss the details of the reach out, why he was late for one of his son's births, and what his current wife really thinks about him working with his ex. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is that Ben and Nashley I Almost Famous Podcast
Bachelor Countdown.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. We are
continuing our Bachelor countdown. We're interviewing a whole bunch of
bachelors up until the premiere of Grant's season.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Today we have mister Bob Guiney.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Today's interview is one that makes me very happy. Now,
all of them have made me very happy. It's always
good to catch up with old friends, people who've lived
in similar places you, people that can relate with you.
But this one makes me extra happy because I love
this man very much and I know Ashley does as well.
Bob Guiney, Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Thanks guys, I love you both very much too. I'm
really happy to be here.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Bob.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Sometimes I still get starstruck by you because you are
you are like the original bachelor that people remember.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
You're the first bachelor that people remember.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
And thank you for being part of our Bachelor series
leading up to the premiere of Grant season. You are
amongst a number of bachelors that we are revisiting with.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
No, it's so sweet of you to say, Ashley, because
you're like a historian of this whole thing. I love you,
you know everything.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Our resident expert is what I call it.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Oh, your season, I'm gonna be honest, don't.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Know your well, you were probably still in diapers.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was a freshman in high school when your season
was on.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Your season was two thousand and three.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, I was right right after Trista's season, and
yeah it was.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
A long time ago for you, so sure.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
And my mom was a little low brow on the
Bachelor franchise at that point, So sometimes I would sneak
it in my room, just like have an episode on
the background on my little Purple TV.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Oh my gosh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I love Isn't it weird? I was in eighth grade
when Bob was the Bachelor.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Isn't that crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
And it's so strange because I feel like, I mean, Ben,
I feel like you're one of my favorite human beings
a live period, not even from this franchise, but I
feel like you and I are just like.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
When we hang out, I feel we're the same age.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's crazy because I really don't like you guys, don't
feel like you have a big age gap.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
No, it's because Bob is so.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Immature and Benison exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
There you go. That's really honestly, that is it.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, it's it's interesting as we get older. My some
of my best friends in the world are, you know,
in their later forties and fifties. Now you just kind of,
you know, life kind of comes together once kids come
into play, and once it's the only thing you can do,
you know, athletically is golf, Bob. I'm going to shower
you with compliments throughout the show. Oh and I hope

(02:31):
you give us some headline. So that's the only rule
you have, and I'll shower you with compliments the rest
of the time. So I mean this compliment because I
was talking about it a couple days ago, and I
won't mention with who, but it's another lead on this, okay.
And they're talking about career choices, like what if you've

(02:51):
been have any advice for what this looks like post
show or during show or whatever, like, how would you
have navigated differently, how did you feel like you it well,
et cetera. So we were talking through this and I said,
and I said this blanket comment without thinking through it first,
and then I stopped myself to think through it. I
said this. I said, you know, if you look at

(03:12):
the history of the leads on the show, the women
traditionally do really well, like the bachelorettes do really well
post show in entertainment or in you know, influencing now
would be a way to say that, or you know,
keeping some type of revenue stream going. I said, the
bachelors some have caught fire, but for the most part,

(03:33):
it's kind of this strategic switch from either keeping the
career you had before or enhancing that career a little bit,
using this whole platform for a few years, and then
really launching off into like whatever season's next for you
outside of entertainment. I said, you don't have I said,
you don't have many representatives that have made it an

(03:54):
entertainment post show. And then I stopped. I said, actually,
I would say that Bob Guiney has I mean you
two thousand and three, it was twenty two years ago. Yeah,
you're still on the almost famous OG so you're still
talking and people still want to listen to you for
a living.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
In addition to that, you obviously have a career that
you you know, put time into, but you were on
serious radio. You obviously a musician, we did the man
panel on the Today Show together for I think two
and all years you.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Did it one I didn't, yeah, ten years.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
But you you have made a career post show. So
I want to start this whole thing by we'll talk
about The Bachelor and your time there, and that's great,
But how do you think you made that happen? What
steps did you take or how did this kind of
fall into your lap to where that was such a
prevalent use of your time after show?

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well? Thanks, first of all, thanks for saying that. I mean,
you know, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I would say I would say probably Jesse is probably done.
You know some of the more you know, high end uh,
you know, entertainment. Yeah, yeah, But was it Matt Stork?
Is it?

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah? Travis Stork?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Travis Yeah, which, oddly enough, I'll never forget. Right before,
so I got a call from a producer and this
is uh and and you'll you'll appreciate this. This is
the highs and the lows, the thrill of victory in
the agony of defeat of the entertainment world for a
bachelor guy.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
I am on the set, so I was one of
my favorite jobs.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I did in entertainment was hosting the scene in music festival,
so I would go down, I'd be the guy that would,
you know, basically be like welcome back, you know. I
think that was you know, Rascal Flats, you know, next
up Keith Urban and the crowded go crazy, and I
was like, this is the coolest job ever.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
I did for seven years, and in the middle of
it, it was on.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was on, It was on CMT, it was before
it jumped over to being full time on ABC. But
I'll never forget. I get a call from these producers
from something and they're like, you know, we want you
to host one of our shows on CMT. And they're like,
we're gonna plug and play you right into this companion
show with it for our number one hit show. And
the number one hit show at the time was called
Trick My Truck. And I'm like, oh okay, and it's

(06:07):
like yeah, it's almost like a makeup like pimp my
Ride for semi trucks. I'm like, oh okay, I don't
really know anything about that stuff. Like no, no, no, that's
all we want you for. We're doing a like a
spinoff show and it's called Trick My Trucker and We're
just gonna plug.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
You into it. We're gonna plug you on it right now.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
And I'm like what And it wasn't. I don't have
a cluely why I said yes to it, but I did,
and in saying yes to it, I'm like okay. And
it was basically like a makeover show for truck drivers
and I'm like the host, yeah, yeah, they all sort.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Of out of my room, right.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
But I was doing like a bunch of homemakeover style
stuff like back then for AGTV and all that kind
of stuff, So I guess in a weird way, maybe
it fit. And while I'm doing it, I get a
phone call from a producer friend of mine and he's like, hey, man,
got this great idea for a show.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
And he's telling me the.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Show and I'm like, it's about doctors and we're gonna,
you know, we're gonna tell people how to solve know ailments.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
And I'm like, why does this guy call me?

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'm not a doctor, and he goes, do you know
how I can get a hold of Travis Stork?

Speaker 5 (07:07):
I really? And I'm like what, wait?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
What? And I will never forget it because I was like, yeah,
I can connect the dots and help. And in that moment,
I'm realizing the end of my career and the launching
pad for doctor Travis Stork's career. But you know, I'm
on a set of a you know, truck driver makeover
show and some weird you know, and some weird truck
stop and like, I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
I'm like, what is going on with my life?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
It makes fun show too. It was definitely coming off
of Queer Eye.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, probably, Yeah, they were just finding different ways to
spin it, you know. And but yeah, you know, it
was kind of interesting after after the Bachelorette, which you know,
my brother in law, I've told you this story many times, Ben,
and I think Ashley probably knows it too. But I
didn't shibmit myself to be on any of it, and
so and I actually thought it was a joke when
they were calling me because I was crouching around my

(07:54):
office after one of my many, you know, ailments, and
I had never been heavier, and they're calling me for
this show that I didn't submit myself for. And it's
Lacey Pemberton with a scratchy voice, and I think it's
a guy messing with me, sounding like a woman.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
And I'm like, okay, all right, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
So I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, boy meets
girl every day in Detroit and on in front of
a million viewers, you know, and they're like, why you
send in a demo tape. I'm like, not gonna be
the fat guy and you're blueper real, but thanks, and
I'm hanging up. I'm thinking it's like I'm gonna cutch
you around and everyone's gonna be laughing.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
No one's laughing. I'm like, what the hell? I know
that was funny. And my brother in law said it best.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
He was like, if I would have tried to make
any of it happen, I would have looked like a
complete idiot, you know. But instead I stepped in a
pile of dog poop and pulled a hundred dollars bill
off my shoe.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
He's like, it just sort of was one of those
times in your life. And the TV thing kind of
came as a result of that too. I went on
Trista's season of the Bachelorette and everybody there is ripped,
you know, and I'm like in the worst shape of
my life. And I would normally be one of those
guys who maybe isn't ripped, but at least would have been,
you know, in moderately decent shape.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
And I'm like, oh, I'm clearly going home pretty soon here,
you know. So I'm just gonna have fun.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
And I had a blast and just kept sticking around,
you know. And then you know, Interest and I are
still friends this day, obviously, and but it was one
of those things, and the Bachelor kind of came. You know,
Oprah thought I was funny, made me your man on
the street. Next thing you know, I'm hosting all these
segments for Oprah and she's like, this is where you belong,
you know. And then they call me to do The Bachelor.
I'm like, I don't think I want to do it.

(09:19):
I call Oprah. Oprah kind of talks what.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Lot.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I reached out to the Oprah for advice on becoming
the Bachelor.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah. I reached out to her executive assistant, who connected us,
and one day my phone rings back. I'm like, I'm like,
I know this is a weird request, but could Oprah?
I need to talk to Oprah. I want to, you know,
because she was the only only person I knew that
was I need to talk to Oprah. But at this
point I'd done her show like ten times, you know,
cooking with a chef. I'm doing all this cool stuff,

(09:50):
like they get firefighters in Chicago and then they bring
me in and I'm like, with a firefighter, I mean everything,
you know.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
It was just she just thought it was funny and
gave me a platform to I'm an idiot.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You got a phone call.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
So I get a phone call and tell us what
she said. Yeah, I legitimately said.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
I was like, I'm struggling that they're asking me to
be the Bachelor guy, and I just don't think I'm
the right guy for it.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
And she's like she was so.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I mean, she basically was the reason why they were
calling me, right, She's like, I want Bob to be
the next Bachelor.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
That was really all it took. But I was like,
I just don't think I'm the right guy for it.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know, I'm not really doing anything memorable in my life,
and I just came off a trist this season.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
That was a lot of fun. I'm the lovable loser,
and everywhere I go, people are like, you should have
been the guy. You know, I'm like, thanks, They needless
to say. They edited me nicely, and I was kind
of just like, I.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Don't think I'm I just don't think I'm that guy.
And she's like, oh my god, that's why you are
that guy. She's like, because you don't think you're that guy.
And she's like, just be you and be true to
who you are and it'll be the greatest season they've
ever had. And she's like, you know, you've got to
do this. And she really kind of made me, I guess,
feel like I could do it, you know. And so

(10:59):
I was like, Okay, what the heck, I'm going to
give it a.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Shot, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And and I just had to be open to the
fact that I could find love in that circumstance.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
And so that was kind of it, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I went ahead with it and and the entertainment world
as it was a very long way of getting to
the answer of Ben's question. But it kind of was
much the same like after The Bachelor, they'd call me,
they go, hey, do you want to do this?

Speaker 5 (11:20):
I'm like, yeah, why not? That sounds like fun. It
wasn't like I had my design on anything, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
And thankfully I never fully quit my day job, which
is always my advice to any of the new Bachelor guys.
I'm like, look, you're not Ben affleck Man. Stay in
your lane right and be you and have fun. But
you know, it's going to be really tough twenty five
years from now when you're going back to your very
first job interview, because you haven't done anything relevant other

(11:47):
than you know, celebrity bull riding in the last ten years.
It's going to be really tough to get a job,
you know. So don't quit what you do, like, stay
somehow with a business acumen, and don't think that you know,
se tooth whitening kids on Instagram is going to be
a really great career move for you in the long run,
because it's not, you know.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
And that's always been kind of my mindset.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think it's the best advice. How did you give
that advice? I think you maybe give that advice to me,
and it was something I didn't do for two more years.
I kept selling software, which was great, but then it
led into this, and then it led into the freedom
to create some other things. But I think it's the
best advice you can give a lead is you're going
to feel like king of the world and money's going
to flow into your bank account faster than you ever

(12:30):
thought it would. But it also stops faster than you ever.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yeah, yeah, sure it does. It's a humbling experience.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know, when do you think that changed for you? Like,
when do you think that switch happened? Because obviously now
entertainment isn't the main source of your income, So like,
when did that start to feel like, hey, I should
probably now invest even more time into my full time job.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, when did you start to feel your store fade?

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah? Well, you know, I gotta be honest with you.
I didn't feel it.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't I think you
could have continued.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, it took a really good friend of mine to
help me feel it, to be honest. So I had
a buddy of mine from high school who he had
gone on he played, you know, college football, he played
professional football for a while and he became a hedge
fund manager and all this kind of stuff, And we'd
always had this really nice thing. And he called me
on my fortieth birthday to wish me a happy birthday.

(13:23):
So this was this was two years before I kind
of the same timeline has done two years when I
got this advice and I chose to heat it. But
he was like, hey, you know you and I had
just bought my second house in La. I'm thinking, I'm
just I think I got the world, you know, I
got it all figured out. And and he was like, well,

(13:43):
I just want to say this to you. He's like,
I know you got your celebrity band buddies, and he's like,
I know you're buying real estate and you're doing all
this kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
He's like, but pretty soon, you're not going to be
the flavor of the month. There's going to be a.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Younger, funnier, more handsome bachelor guy who's gonna come along,
and you're gonna be the guy that sort of like
keeps getting pushed down the thing.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
There's never been a funnier bachelor.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Oh Ashley, you so much, thank you.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
But I was like it kind of resonated with me
because I think because of who he was right who
he was saying it to me, no vested interest in
him saying it. It wasn't like he was competing with
me for anything or whatever. It was like just a
buddy who I love, who had the guts to tell
me like he saw it, you know. And I was
like he's right, like, pretty soon, I'm gonna be that
guy that I'm telling everyone else not to be, Like,

(14:33):
don't be the dude selling, you know, tooth whitening.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Kids.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I'm wondering why you can't get a job in finance again.
You haven't done it in a long time.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Jared has a tooth whitening ad coming up, guys, felt He's.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Also a business owner, and you know, there's a lot
going on, supplemental, supplemental tooth white. And he does have
a brilliant smile, and so therefore he should I I
have never had that much of it. I want to
have the ross from friend's teeth, and I just don't
have them.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Jared has bad byer too, so he he's got good.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
He's got bright though they're bright outside of teeth. Continue, Bob,
thank you, Yes, So he calls it.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
He gives me this advice, and it really I don't
know if it was because I was just turning forty.
I don't know what it was, but I had been
at that point. I was eight years off my season.
It was really like the ten year mark, I guess.
So it was ten years after I was a bachelor,
and that's when I was like, you know, I'm going
to start taking these opportunities that I have because I
was still doing a lot of a live event hosting

(15:27):
at the time, where I would go and do like
a Fortune five hundred company would hire me and I'd
go in to be their MC for their you know,
sales awards and stuff like that. I was like, I'm
gonna start and every time I would do it, they'd
offer me a job and I'd be like, no thanks,
you know, And I was like, I'm gonna quit just
saying no thanks. I'm gonna start thinking about these opportunities
and see if I can create something that I love
that's kind of a combination of my personality meets this

(15:50):
and where it's not just based off of you know,
because I was also you know, and we all kind of.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Go through it too.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
We get to that point where we're sort of you're
not tired of it, but you want to be known
as something else than bachelor Bob from twenty years ago, right,
and so you're thinking, like what else can I do?
And so that's when I started really thinking about it.
And so twenty fifteen, which would have been twelve years
after I was a bachelor, was when I finally was like, Okay,
now I'm gonna take advantage of these opportunities and turned

(16:18):
it into an opportunity. Left La moved to Seattle with
a company called Lincoln Financial, who you know, really took
a big chance with me, and they gave me an
opportunity to sort of grow and do some things that
I had been doing, but.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
You know, take it next level and really make a
career out of it.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
But they were also really supportive of me doing other
stuff and never once did they you know, make me,
you know, feel like I couldn't. In fact, that was
kind of part of it. Was they were like, we
want you to continue doing your stuff. That's what makes you,
makes you different.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
And so I I got doing the Today Show for
many years after that, which is how Ben and I
met in person, and then you know, it was like.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
All that kind of good stuff. So yeah, I was.
I was pretty happy about the way it kind of continued.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
And you know, I still get to dabble these days,
but now with the kids and everything else, the dabbling
has become you know, a little more selective.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Quick note, Ashley, because I know you have some questions
about almost famous ogs Bob and I still this day
people ask me, what's one of the coolest things you've
gotten to do since you were a bachelor, And I
always say, well, I get to host a show with Ashley,
and that to me is fantastic, and it has been
since we started. So the other thing is and Ashley.

(17:38):
I don't know if you know this. Bob and I
were on set filming on the Day show for Kathy
Lee Gifford's very final day on that on television.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Oh really, I hear that she's like the nicest person
in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, she's amazing. Hode is gone now, but we were
there and so it was a really like ear moment
for me because I think Bob was sitting next man
on the couch and I was like, I've watched her
my entire life, Like i watched her with my mom,
Regis and Kathy, like I watched that show with her
so much, and now I'm sitting here three foot from

(18:13):
her as she cries and says goodbye to TV. And
it was it was wild. It's one of those moments
you're like, how did this all happen?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Up here, Yeah, it's really But I know you have
some questions about the O G show that that Bob
hosts with his ex girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, first I wanted to talk about your ex wife.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh yes, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Rebecca Rebecca boot Egg?

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Is that how you say her?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Last night?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
But okay, man, I remember this was like a big
thing because my mom was a big all my children's
children fan and she was all my children. So my
mom thought that you guys were a really cool celebrity couple.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And you guys were married for six.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Years six and a half half.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, again, you were kind of like a celebrity. You
were marrying another actress. This was all on the tabloid
covers and noybe you guys might be working on something together.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. You know they say never
burn your bridges, right, and it's kind of funny. I
I always we split up. Well, I guess whatever seven
years would have been after we got married. I can't
remember the year now, but.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Ok, thank you.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, and uh we it wasn't because of anything uh
you know, bad or anything toxic or anything anything.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
It was more that we were just two people who
had grown apart.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
You know, we're living on opposite coasts at the time,
and had been for a couple of years because of
her career and and I had moved with her when
she wanted to go to LA and so I had
started a career there and it was just really difficult
to figure out what was going to happen. And so
it was one of those things where, oh, we'll take
it every six months and see what you know, and
it's it's tough to do.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
And so it was never from a.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Lack of you know, love or caring for one another.
It was more from a just a grown apart and
and but we remained very friendly. And her husband when
she remarried, was a guy that I really liked and respected.
And it was one of those things where the long
and the short of it is he came up with

(20:21):
an idea and he presented it and it sounded pretty
interesting and and we still don't know what's going to
happen with.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
It, if anything.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
But this past year, you know, she returned back to
the soaps and went back to Bold and Beautiful, So
we actually had her Trista and I my ex girlfriend Trista,
and I had her one of the triangle Oh yeah,
what a lineage, and we had her on the show
to talk about her return to daytime television and kind
of teased this idea that was thrown out there, and

(20:52):
you know, we'll see what happens. I mean, it's one
of those things that's very early on in the development stages,
but I will tell you, and I think this is
an important part to talk about.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Is I went to my wife, who my wife and
I have been married, and I was.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Going to say, how does Kanyon feel about this?

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, and Kanyon's like, that's an awesome show. I think
you should totally do it. I'm like, really, he's like
super supportive of it, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
So Keanyon is one of the most fun people to
be around and also one of the most welcoming. She'll
always make sure. Yeah, my wife kind of was wrapped
up in some comfortable arms. Yeah, showing around. Kenyon is is.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
One when she likes you. When she likes you, she
can also be a pit bull when she doesn't. So, yeah,
she clearly likes you.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Can see that. But I always seem the good side
and I love the good me too, good side of Kanyon.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Me too.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I agree with you, buddy, And yeah, so my my
wife was very supportive of the idea. So if something
ever does come of it, which who knows, you know,
but if something ever did come of it, I'd be
more than happy to talk about it here first with you.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Kanyon has a lot of like jealousy concerns. You know,
you've really now with her. I think it's like, Bob,
you go do what you gotta do. But I know
she does.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
You know, it's so true.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I mean, that was that was the thing about her
when I you know, when I met her, I really
didn't ever think I was gonna get married again, you know,
when I met Canyon, and so I was sort of like,
you know, oh, we're gonna date and have fun whatever,
you know. And I was probably treating it in my
mind anyway, like it was a casual, you know, relationship.
And it was funny because all my buddies would be like, uh,

(22:27):
I'm like, well, yeah, we should go, you know, and uh,
you know, maybe I'll maybe I'll bring maybe I'll bring
a date or something.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
They're like, oh, you.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Mean the date the only person that you ever hang
out with, but you pretend like you're you know, not
dating can oh no, you know, we're.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Just so casual.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
And so it's funny because Canyon to this day. Like
people will say, you know, you know, so, what's going
on with you guys?

Speaker 5 (22:48):
You know what do you guys? She'll go, oh, we're keeping.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
It casual, two kids, casual, you know, you know, eight
years married, casual.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
And you know it's it's actually pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
But yeah, she's she's super cool about that stuff, and
you know, yeah, it's got nothing to worry about anyway,
So it's not like, you know, it's very comical. I'll
just tell you this when I leave to go do something,
like I'll be hosting something and she'll be like, you know,
the things that she says to me are not the
common things that a wife would say to a husband
who's leaving for a business trip.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
She'll say something and it'll.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Literally make me laugh until I get home, and it's
just like, you know, she'll say some pretty off colored
things which are part of our relationship, DNA.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
I suppose it's really funny to me.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Let's talk about the Ogs. That's our spinoff podcast that
you introduce us right now. You guys are doing the
recaps of Special Forces, of course because she's on it,
but you also do a lot with the Golden Bachelor
why does the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bachelor I prefer
you guys over us.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well, I mean people like to hang out with people
that are on their same age, you know, I think, and.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I am definitely that guy. Not trust this so much,
but me for sure.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, it's really crazy when you're talking like the Golden
Bachelor people and I'm like, I'm like five years younger
than this is really strange, Bob.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
That is actually almost a true fact. And I feel
about that for you, I know, I will know. I
don't know how old Joan and Shok are bisty or
sixty one and you're fifty.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Three, fifty three. I mean, it's like we're kind of
fifty three.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Oh thanks, I feel like the oldest uh lately with
my kids not sleeping through the night again, it's the
sleep aggression, guys. It even comes back at three. But yeah,
I think, uh, you know, we've loved it. And thank you, guys,
thank you for letting us, you know, be on your
stream and for being a part of the whole thing,
and thanks to Sugarman of course for even thinking of
the idea for us. It's one of those things. I mean,

(24:38):
it's really been a lot of fun. I didn't even
know what a podcast was five years ago, you know,
and it's like, ID hear people talking about it, I'm like,
why the hell would you listen to a podcast?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
I can, you know, listen to Pop Rocks, you.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Know, two thousand and five and I got all my
music I need, and you know, but it's so fun
to hear to get to know people and like to
hear their stories and really, you know, share with that,
and it makes you think of your own stuff too.
Like I don't know how many times I'll be done
interviewing somebody, especially from the Golden Series, and I'll like
hang up and.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Go, gosh, I kind of relate to that person. I
get it.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
I always feeling that way at one point, you know.
And so yeah, now we're onto the Special Forces thing.
Trista's on there. She's doing a really great job. First
episode I watched, I won't lie to you guys, I
actually got emotional watching it.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Like I was sitting there by myself because I had
to wait.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
You know, the kids are bed and everything, and I'm
watching this person I've known for twenty years, and Trista
push herself to such a place that was like I
knew how uncomfortable she had to be, and I knew
how hard it had to be. And then you start
thinking about it, like, I mean, I know Ben feels
this way too. Every guy I know always feels this way.
But you start thinking, man, can I do that? Like
should I push myself?

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Should I just put myself in a situations uncomfortable like that?

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And you start wondering if you could do it, And
then you start hearing in the reasons that motivate these
people to go on this show because they ask, you know,
fifty people, I'm sure to get it down to these
sixteen or whatever, and to hear the reasons that they
are challenging themselves and it's not a competition show, so
they're not it doesn't matter who lasts to the end.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
You can, yeah, exactly. And it's like, man, that's just it.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Like you start wondering, you know, especially at my age,
right I'm fifty three, I think about it. You know,
did I peak at thirty two? I guess I did
when I was a bachelor, you know, and ever since then,
it's like, you know, twenty years later, it's like, am
I still like I played college football? Am I still
an athlete. Can I still get it done if I
train a little bit, you know, And or am I
just a dad you know, who's basically an uber for

(26:28):
my kids and you know, trying to keep all the
all the balls in the air of my family life.
And you know, it's it's one of those things you
do wonder, you know. And and so it's been a
lot of there's been a lot of interesting conversations with
everybody that's been on the show, but I think most
of it's been kind of hearing Trista's connection with these
people and how she feels such a bond with them
after going through it. And my dad was a marine,

(26:48):
so you know, I was the only I was the
one who didn't go into the Armed service arm forces,
and so I'm always like, you know, did I drop
the ball there? Like you know what, like should I
have done it then? And yeah, it just makes you
think a lot. But it's been pretty rewarding doing the podcast.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's interesting podcasts do that, but it's such a healthy
habit to get in the I think, get in the
practice of asking those questions, not always going to the
place of, oh I dropped the ball right? Life looks
different for everybody, different paths, different things happen. But it's
one of the things that this show always does for
me is it does give me time to reflect and
ask myself those questions, you know, where am I at?

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Like what am I?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know? Who am I? To the people around me?
And Bob we have a really great interview, a late
night interview that happened at the baby shower for Jessica
and I that I heartput on. It has all the
details of kind of how you decided to have kids,
how that all worked out the process of having kids,

(27:48):
what you've learned as a father. Anybody listening right now
that just wants a very raw, very authentic interview with Bob,
go back and the thread here and listen to that Evergreen.
I mean, it talks about Bob's story, you know, being
a father at what were you forty seven?

Speaker 5 (28:05):
I think forty seven, forty eight?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Grayson's six now, so I was
forty seven.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah yeah. It's a great interview or just a great conversation.
I think that a lot of people can learn a
lot from and the closing moments here I do want
to lean into your time as the Bachelor, because you
were the Bachelor. Do you my first question before we
even get going here, and I ask a bunch of
questions that you might not even have an answer to.
Do you even remember the season?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yeah, that's the one thing, you know, It's it's kind
of burned in my brain for the most part, I think.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because I don't. I don't remember a lot of my season.
Like you could say stuff and I'll be like, oh,
I remember that, yeah, but like I couldn't recall the moment,
the small moments, or all the things that happened very easily.
And I didn't mean that as like a dig like oh,
it's so long ago. I meant it as like a
it was such a flash, and it's such a blur
to me.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Now, right, Yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, yeah,
I remember the broad strokes, you know. I remember the
wide brush moments, I suppose, and the things that you know,
I carry with me, like you know, I remember the
moments of just like all out fatigue, right, Like you know,
I always reference one moment in particular where and it's
almost like I'm making fun of the show to a

(29:16):
certain degree, but I'm like, yeah, they want you to
make all these you know, life changing decisions, but you
know they've they've got a half gallon of Tito's down
your neck and they throw you on a private jet
to Vegas and then as you as you spend the
you know, the better part of an evening and into
the wee morning hours, they fly you back. And then
when you think you're going to go to bed, they
throw you in a new outfit and say, okay, sit

(29:36):
down and talk about the date, and then we're gonna
go hot air balloon riding at six am. You're like,
what I remember? I remember that in particular. It's like
a force turnaround time for me. That was like, wow,
you know, how am I supposed to you know, even
have conversations at that point, But strangely enough, I guess
I did it.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
But you know, yeah, I remember the big stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I think, you know, there's probably some moments that that
that if someone would have told me they happened, I'd
be like, oh, okay, maybe they did, you know, But yeah,
I remember it, and I definitely, you know, I say
I savor some of those moments too, because they were
I think I'm really bad at being in the moment
and realizing that I should really savor that moment, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
And and I'm one of those people that.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Just assumes I'll remember it all and it's going to
happen again next time, too, right, And so I'm definitely
not one of the people that pulls out my phone,
much to my wife's chagrin, Like I never am documenting
things which I should. I'm just a guy that's just
in it happened to Blast, and you know, assuming I'm
going to remember it all.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
But yeah, I do remember most of the big moments of.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
The show, and you know, really treasure the relationships I
made as a result of them.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Did either of you have Bachelor diaries?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
No?

Speaker 5 (30:48):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Oh my god, is the most embarrassing thing to reread?

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Is it? Really?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I have some stuff I wrote down. They're more like prayers.
I was kind of like Bob. I was tired of frustrated,
I was emotional, I was confused, and so a lot
of times it was just like, I need three minutes
to write so I can get some of these thoughts
out of my head onto paper, so I can like
come back tonight and revisit them because I'm not going

(31:14):
to remember why I was all sad today. It's a whirlwind.
In fact, you know, if I was thirty five and single,
I don't know if I could say yes to doing it.
I don't know if I have this, DaMina. There is
one person though that I know, Bob, I relate with that.
But there is one person I think that savored the moment,
and maybe the only lead that I know that really did.

(31:37):
Jojo talks about like how much fun she had and
how enjoyable the experience was. I wish I would have
had more of that mentality. I wish I would enjoyed
it more because it was more like a work, like
I'm going I'm here intentionally to do one thing to
find somebody, and it's going to be hard. The rest
of the way you did have.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I was a hybrid.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
I think I was a hybridween you guys, because I
really like, I really enjoyed the moments until they got
really real at the end, and then I felt Then
I felt like it was grueling to try and figure
out the right thing.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
I was always weary of hurting people feelings. Yeah, that
was my big thing, Bob.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
We are going to dive into the season. There is
a moment that people still talk about Uh, that became
a very big moment for you. During the season. There's
a moment with Kelly Joe where you told her she
isn't the one, and the reaction I think brought in
the audience's attention. Can you tell us more about what
was actually happening?

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah, well, you know it was she was of my
final two, and it came down to that moment, you know,
the big the big reveal, when you're standing there surrounded
by flowers and you're in a tuxedo and they're in
they're beautiful gowns, and I mean, truth be told.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Uh. I.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
You know, I've often thought about this when people will say,
you know, oh, I don't know how you could be
even confused at that moment.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
You know, you either know or you don't.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
And and I was still very confused. I was still
kind of trying to put it together, the emotions and
what I was going to do?

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Am I going to propose? Am I not? What am
I doing here? You know?

Speaker 4 (33:18):
And and back back then the show was a lot
more formulaic in the way that they presented it. You know,
so if if you know when they're cutting the show
together and they know you're choosing girl number two, Well,
then girl number one is going to be for sure
head and shoulders above everyone as the clear favorite, right,
And so it almost was a disservice to the to

(33:39):
the to the woman that you did select, because then
you'd start your relationship and everyone's like, well man, I
mean it looked like you were going to totally be
with you know, this girl, and it almost created this
like weirdness that was really difficult I think for people
to maintain a relationship after that too, because it played
into all your fears and all your you know, your
trepidation about being on the show and was he going

(33:59):
to choose.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Her until just came down the hill or whatever?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
But anyway, Yeah, Kelly Joe comes down the hill, and
she's a very bubbly personality, and we definitely.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Cold acted throughout the whole season.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
I mean, there was no question Kelly Joe and Estella
who I ended up ultimately choosing or they were the
clear you know, final two, given the way that I
had reacted to them and vice versa. And Kelly Joe
was very spunky to this day, like we've remained friendly.
She's been on almost famous Dogs actually, Yeah, and and

(34:31):
she comes down and.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
I you know, they didn't know which order they were
coming down.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
They didn't know that Estella hadn't already come down, so
she assumes that she's the one. And when I say,
you know, I'm telling her how great she is, and
I'm like butt, and oh my god. When I say
the word you know, but or however or whatever I said,
she's holding my hands and I remember her just whipping
them down and just looking at me like she was

(34:58):
gonna punch me in the face. And the look was legit,
Like I mean, I was like there was some fear
I'm not gonna lie because she was that spunky and
that fiery, and I was like, oh my god, she's
gonna she's gonna totally punch me out. And she didn't, thankfully.
But then when I said, she like turned around to
walk away, and I'm like, hold on, you know, may
I walk you back to the car and she's like fine,

(35:19):
you know, And you know, that was the first time
I think that the that the reaction was such on
the show, because I was still early on, and I
think up until that point people were sad when they
didn't get the final rows, but they weren't mad. And man,
she was mad, and I'll never forget it because I
was talking about that even when we're going on the

(35:39):
tour to parade around, you know, Estella and I to
talk about our relationship and where we're at with things,
and they're asking about Kelly Joe and why she was
you know, she was all pissed off, and you know,
it was crazy. It was a crazy experience for sure,
and it definitely set the tone for you know, a
lot of things to come after that.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, have you talked to Escella at all in the
past twenty years?

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, Stella, I we we had coffee a
few times and you know, definitely had a nice closure.
I guess it would be too our relationship and she's
been a gust on almost famous the ogs too, because
there was a period of time where we were having
like every ex I've ever had in my life on
the show.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I'm like, Hey, Trista, when are we gonna have Charlie
on What the hell? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I still I had I have still yet to do that.
We've had Jojo.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, it was a long time coming, Jojo, it's coming.
You want to do that too.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Remember Nick did that where he had like all of
his season of girls. Come on, do you want to
do that?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Do you want to have all your girls?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
We can surprise you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, personally, I for your season and because you have
a Bachelor episode as well, for recapping your season.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
So maybe we should just surprise you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
There's nothing that would stop me now. I mean I
think I think initially Bob and I sit in the
same place where this experience is very real us, and
I think it is. I think everybody wants it to
be and hopes it is. It isn't always that way.
Some people get out of this and they're like, I,
you know, I don't mind talking all because like nothing
was like actually ever real next, nothing ever was felt,

(37:14):
And so I think when you feel it, it's harder
to then even get to a place where you're like,
I would love to talk to you again, Like that's
not a normal human response to like talking to people
that you've dated. At this point in my life, I
would have no issues because you know, life has moved
on for everybody in beautiful ways, and so now it's like, yeah,

(37:35):
that could be fun, especially people would listen. I would
love to do that.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Well, I think that's a part of it too, though.
You're in a great place, right. It's like when you're
in a great place and they're in a great place,
you know. Like one of the things I loved about
talking to Estella when we did was, you know, she
had gotten engaged and now she's married, and it was like, okay,
you know now and I've got I'm happily married with kids.
It's like, okay, now we can all kumbaya, right, and
we can reminisce and you know, and you keep it

(38:02):
light right. You don't have to you don't have to
go down the rabbit hole on anything because no one,
you know, cares anymore. You don't care, but no reason to,
you know. But yeah, I actually didn't mind it. I
actually was was kind of excited about it, to be honest,
because I knew I was in a good place with
both of them.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
So they have them on the show, you know, made.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Me feel i don't know, some some sort of like
you know, accomplishment and some sort of closure. That was
a was a positive thing all the way around, because
we were all in such great places personally.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, it's great with me. I mean, I've said it
many times in the show. But you know, Chris Lane
and I text about golf all the time. I think
he's an awesome dude, So like, why not then go
one step further bring him on too. Let's all chat
like it would.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Be fun, It would be.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Great, Bob. This is kind of coming off of our
conversation though, has Kanyon watched your season?

Speaker 4 (38:55):
So again, Kenyon was Kenyon's much younger than me. Obviously
she's she's your jelling me. So she just turned forty
one this year, so I think she was a senior
in high school.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Would that be right math wise? Yeah, she was born
in eighty four.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
She been freshman in college.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Maybe a freshman college. Okay, So you know, the big
joke always.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Between Canyon and I was that her mom was the
fan of the show and knew who I was.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
But Canyon, you know, Kenye didn't care.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
So needs to say, I unearthed a few different times
when I caught her actually having some knowledge of things
that she shouldn't have known had she not watched any
of my season.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
But yeah, she had never watched it.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
So my brother in law and my sister had of
course taped every episode or whatever, but they did it
on TVO. Back in the day that was supposed to
be the new cutting edge technology. It would be around forever.
So we had to dig the TVO out of the
attic and like plug it into a TV because she's like,
I really want to see this. I was super uncomfortable.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, oh my god, are you.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Sure you want to see this?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I'm not sure that this is a good idea. And
thankfully and much too like she loves this part. When
we plugged it into the back of the TV, the
connections weren't the same and so it was actually black
and white.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Oh my god. That just fed her narrative.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
You know, she's like, oh my, and why don't we
get eight millimeter? I was like, you know, okay on
the show, is there is there solid on this or
was this you know, silent silent Bachelor Day?

Speaker 5 (40:14):
But it was, you know, it was pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
And she watched the first like fifteen minutes of it
and she was like, okay, I'm good because it was like,
you know, they do the this season I'm the Bachelor,
and it's like, you know, the whole thing, and you know,
she got to see me like make out with fifty people,
and so she was over it, you know, but I
think it was one of those.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Things where it was it was definitely.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I'm glad she got a little synopsis because she hears
about it all the time from people, and she can
at least say I watched all I needed to watch
of that season or whatever.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Her favorite thing to say is, yeah, it's all fun
and games until you live with it, so that's probably
pretty accurate. But no, to answer your question, no, she's
never actually watched my season, but like she says, she's
she's heard enough about it for a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
So you're telling me that you can't find your season anywhere,
because this is what Prince Lorenzo.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Told us as well.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
And Prince Lorenzo bergheasy, I love this.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
He came on our podcast and he was like, you
can't find my season anywhere, and I haven't been able to.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
And I had no idea that if you have an
old TiVo around you could put it in and kick
start that thing.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
He's got to like put some gas in it and
fire it up. Yeah, my I've been told from some
people that was on that were on my season that
you can find it on like you know, the Hulu
annals or something.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Of that nature.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
But what's a Hulu annal?

Speaker 5 (41:33):
I don't know, like.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
You can go somewhere and find it like on old
seasons past. I've never I've never spent too much time
going to look for it. If I'm being really honest,
I know there's some VHS tapes somewhere in my parents'
basement that's uh, you know, got all documented for me
when it's time to show the kids. But actually, to
be really funny, you guys, you got so my son Grayson,
who's six. I I know Ben probably has heard me

(41:57):
talk about this before, but my son is really he's
he's a big personality.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
And I don't know where he gets it from.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
And we were literally like we'll be at McDonald's at
the playland and they'll be playing and I'll order, like,
you know, a coffee and a couple of happy meals, right,
and the woman will come over with the tray, you know,
with the coffee and the happy meals, and he'll be
on the playscape and he'll go.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
It's him. Yeah, you can get a picture with him
if you want.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
It's it's Bachelor Bob, or he'll or he'll call me
Bob the Builder.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
He'll go, it's Bob the Builder.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
He'll interchange them all the time, and I'm just like,
oh my gosh. And I'm like, honey, he's dropping off
a coffee, she's dropping off the happy meal.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
She doesn't she's twelve. She doesn't know who I am,
you know. But it's like, he loves it. If anyone
stops to talk to me, like to ask for directions,
like I swear to you, he'll go, he'll take a
picture with you.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, he'll do it.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Hey that they want to, I'm like, buddy, they're asking
if you know seven eleven's up here on the corner.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
They're good.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
So it's become comical to me because my wife like
loves it. And I think he gets some of his
sense of humor from his mom because she likes to
put me in uncomfortable spots. But yeah, I think it'll
be fun someday, you know, to let them see some
of that stuff. I hope I can hang.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
On to mind it. I've been trying to search right
now while you've been telling the story. And that's a
hilarious story and I'm obsessed with it. And yeah, if
you want to download illegal things. We could definitely get it.
Why can't just ABC give us these things? I want
the full series on DVD as well.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Well, no, you think they would like they'd want it
out there.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't know what I want is all the footage
from Jared and My Paradise that never made air, Like
I want to see all the embarrassing the.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Cutting room floor. I bet there were so many great moments.
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
You know, we didn't know each other then, obviously, but
I remember feeling such a I was so happy for
you when you guys finally and you knew it all along,
and I was always like, God, I was like, I
felt like we were such good friends then.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
And it's funny.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I see why people like gravitate to certain people from
the show, because I would the same way. I was
like fangirling all over you.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
I was like, oh my god, I love it. You know,
this is so great that they're together. Yeah, I thank you.
You're very welcome.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Bob Gott to end with this fun questions about the
delivery room, because that, of course, is going to be
in that room within the next thirty days.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I want to know.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
I'm so excited for you.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Ben let's get a little dad perspective.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, what was something in the delivery room that you
didn't expect, something about getting to the hospital or anything
like that.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
Yeah, well, you know, we had been given so much advice.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
We were living in Seattle at the time, and Kenyon
is a tough chick, and so like, you know, she
wouldn't even really let on that she was, you know,
having minor contractions and everything, because we were told, like,
the last thing you want to do is be early
to the hospital. They'll send you home, make sure you're
you know, you make sure you're in the right place.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
When you get there.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
And so we might have waited a little too long
because the Lions were playing and I was you know,
it was it was December. It was December second technically,
but she didn't deliver till a third.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
But I was like, oh no, you know, they said
we can wait. You know, I was trying to be casual.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
I had my go bag, was ready, I was good
to go, you know, and but I was trying to
like prolong it a little because we actually lived relatively
close to the hospital too. So I will say this,
when we got to the hospital, it got real fast,
you know, like even though she hadn't delivered, she didn't
deliver for a while, and I was just all of

(45:43):
a sudden, I mean, don't you know, and Ben, there
is no one and Ashley and I have talked about
this before. There is no one born to be a
dad more Higgins. I mean, there's no one more more
and I and I think of myself as this is
my calling too, and I think you're like HEAs and
shoulders above me. So I feel like, no matter what,

(46:03):
you're not ready for it. Okay, So let's just get
that out of the way. Then you get there, and
you'll you'll never love your wife more than in that moment,
and then you'll never love anyone more than that baby
from that point on in your life. It's like it
changed my life, honestly, God cry. Then you'll be a

(46:24):
mess like me, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I know I will. That's the part I'm holding on too.
I'm doing every like masculine, non emotional.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Thing up until yeah, because because then your life's over.
Then you're a total puddle like me every time I
talk about my kids.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
But yeah, I'm just going to be a mess.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
But I'll say this, you know.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
So Canyon was going to try and deliver naturally, and
so she went through all of it and then all
of a sudden they're like, nope, uh, we're gonna have
to go see section right.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
So we go in. I'm expecting.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
I'm super stoked because now I'm going to get scrubs
and so this, for whatever reason, was my primary thing.
I'm like, wait, can I you know, so my scrubbing in,
am I you know, am I getting the blue hat?

Speaker 5 (47:05):
And and I don't. I don't get any of that.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
They threw me like this yellow plastic shirt, and I,
you know, I wasn't in the greatest shape, and they're like,
you know, you got to take off your shirt cause
you're gonna be the skin on skin.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
I'm like what. And I wasn't prepared for any of that.
And so we go in. I'm in this horrible clown outfit.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
And I feel like I'm really feeling like I got
shafted on that regard. But I'm right up there and
they're like, you know, well, where do you want to be.
I'm like, I'm a shoulders guy. I'm up here, you know.
And so that was number one. But then Kenyon, I'll
never forget it. Kanyon started having like almost like she
was in shock, like she started shaking really bad.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
That's very common.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Is that common?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yes, my sister in law just had one and she goes.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I was shivering while being caught open. Yeah, convulsing, she
said it revulsing, So be prepared if she needs a
sea section.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
When they pulled Grace making him out right now, oh yeah,
they pulled Grayceon out and they take him over to
this warming station and they're cleaning them up and they're
like okay Dad, and I am crazy wanting to be there,
but I can't leave canyon.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
So I'm just like I'm just staying here.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
And I'm like, okay, you know, all the fingers, all talls,
you everything good. They're like yeah, I'm like you got that.
I'll be there as soon as she's okay. I just
don't want to leave her because someone come over and
help her. And because I was, I was all of
a sudden like I don't want to leave her alone.
And she's looking at me like you know, don't go,
and I'm like, oh, you know. I was like is
torn And it was like I wasn't expecting. No one
coaches you on that part either. And but the second

(48:35):
I could, I went raced over to Grayson and was
just like, you know, oh, I know, laid down and
he was on my chest and I realized, now why
I'm in this giant zipperd clown out that I guess,
But it was one of those moments where it's like,
you know, all of a sudden everything makes sense.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
It's like, Okay, now I know why I was in
love with this person and wanted to marry her. And
now now I get. If I didn't know before, I
sure know now you know.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
And it's like this is it, this is what we're
supposed to do, and and uh yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
That's so sweet.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Oh my god, I'm so excited for you, dude, I'm
so excited for you.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
She did.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
When we had the second one, well, first of all,
Blake's you know, Blake.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Came out with like a Marty gras head.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
So it's kind of like you know, your kids, like
he's like, is.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
That a giant balloon? The way?

Speaker 4 (49:25):
You know, he's finally growing into it a little, but uh,
you know, no, it's one of those things like there's
no way, there's no way.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
That Blake was going to come out naturally, but you know,
that's just it. That's just it.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
But yeah, I mean I will say this, man, it
is I'm excited for you guys. I mean, Jess is
such a beautiful and wonderful soul and so are you,
and your kid is going to be.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
So incredibly special. I mean, it's it's just.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
And I love how I really do love this, Ashley,
how you and Jared have you know, really kind of
brought Dawson along for the ride in some of those moments,
and it's like, I love that you guys do that,
and it's it's always to me, like, that's been so
much fun for me with our boys, is when we
can stop them from being the hell out of each
other and actually seeing them hug each other once in
a while, which does happen too. You know, I'm so

(50:15):
thankful that it's all worked out the way that it has.
So I always say this when people are like, you know,
would you do it all over again if they ask
you to be the Bachelor? And I'm like, because of
the way my life has turned out, my answer is
absolutely yes, because I believe firmly that we go through
all this stuff to end up where we end up, right,
and so had I had I it's a butterfly effect
that I've done anything differently, I wouldn't be sitting where

(50:35):
I'm sitting.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I wouldn't be talking to you guys.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I wouldn't have these two beautiful kids and a beautiful
wife and a life that I'm so thankful to have.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
And so it's like, you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I think I think the I think uh, you know,
Lacey Pemberton every day for staying on that casting call
when I basically had said, I'm I'm good, thanks, don't
want to do anything with you guys, And and I'm
so thankful because I I have had the best ride
as a result of it.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
One of the one of the most recognizable bachelors of
all time. Bob Guiney, thank you for coming on the
Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for being here again. Go and
listen to Almost Famous Ogs. It's within our feed, It's
wherever you can listen to podcasts. It's they do an
incredible job. Yet Bob and his ex girlfriend Trista. Trista
right now is on special Forces. They're breaking down every episode,

(51:24):
getting the behind the scenes and the raw emotion of
what is actually happening, which I mean, I think that
show does a great job at capturing anyways. But you're
gonna get it through The Almost Famous OG's podcast. Bob Guiney,
thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I love you guys, Thank you, I love you such
a fun time.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Bye.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
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