November 24, 2022 • 19 mins
Now that we’ve wrapped up this season of Bachelor in Paradise, it’s time to sit down with some of the success stories from the sand!
First up is Brandon Jones and Serene Russell! Find out their plans post-Paradise and if they truly experienced “love at first sight”.
And Ashley gets Brandon and Serene to spill their honest thoughts about the OTHER Paradise couples!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with i R Radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost
Famous podcast. Today. It is just me, but not really
because I'm joined by the happiest happy couple I think
I've ever seen in my life, Brandon and Serene. Oh
my gosh, welcome to the show, you guys. It's so
(00:21):
great to see you guys again. Jared and I had
absolutely no doubts that you were going to live happily
ever after and be the couple that had smooth sailing
the entire way. Um, congratulations, thank you, Oh my gosh, Okay,
good to see you again. It was so good to
see you. We have been telling everybody how like genuinely
(00:45):
sweet as pie you two are. It's like there's not
like any sort of there's like there's like no negativity
around you ever. And um, I can just yeah, I
can go on and on about just the bliss that
is around you. Now, let's kind of go what's funny
is that, Like usually we'd like to dive into Selesia stuff,
(01:06):
but like with you guys, there's absolutely no Sealsia stuff.
So I just want to like go like time by
time throughout paradise and talk about like the happiest moments
and like the biggest like heart flutters and all that. Yeah, okay,
so let's talk about the time you guys both first
laid eyes on each other. Who was down there first,
(01:28):
wasn't it? It It was Serene? Right? Yeah? So you're the
first girl, right, Yeah? I was the first girl, And honestly,
I was down there for like hours before anyone like
pulled me to talk like romantic Wait what Yeah, So
it was like probably like six five or six pm
(01:49):
by the time someone had pulled me to talk, and
I was there that morning. And so when I went
into this show, I was thinking, like, I just really
need someone intentional that is gonna show me that they
have interested in me, because usually it feels like I
have more interests in people than they have in me.
And so I just wanted someone to really like show
me that they were interested. And then this guy and
(02:14):
it's like you, I want to talk to you. Oh
that's so sweet. So Brendon was Serene on your list
of ladies you wanted to see in Paradise most definitely.
The funny part was like I kept seeing people go by,
like down to the beach, and I'm like, yo, like,
once I get down there, like everyone's talking to everyone,
(02:34):
everyone's probably coupled up, like I have to go just
like I have to bolt to the people who are
on my list, like I gotta talk to you. I
gotta talk to you that you and uh so a
little liquid courage and I came down the beach. I
was like, okay, I'm not wasting any time, like, hey,
let's go talk. He was almost like the last one though,
like and he was someone that I was like, okay,
(02:55):
like I really want to meet him. And so it
was just really tough. So there all day and then
like no one's talking to me, and then you just
came right up. And then what I'm being told, it's like,
oh yeah, everyone's making connections already, everyone's talking and I'm like,
all right, thanks Jesse, I appreciate you. So when you
(03:16):
saw her in real life, did you have a love
at first first site moments? Oh? She was. She was
way more gorgeous in person than you know what I
saw a TV. So yeah, I'm pretty sure life just
bumbled my words. I went, you know, back to my
old self. I just got super corny. And then somehow
it word Serene. You talked to the past episode about
(03:40):
how you felt he was intentional, and for you it
was always like a serious interest, but maybe not like love.
And you said that it grew with time, which I
know Brandon saw as a compliment and I know you
meant as a compliment. Um, But how does that kind
(04:01):
of love differ from the past kinds of love you've had? Yeah,
I think with Brandon early on we had a lot
of this serious talks to see like are we even compatible,
like do we want the same things in life? Obviously
we were attracted to each other and you know that
that came super naturally. But for me, what really stood
(04:24):
out was him opening his heart to me after kind
of going through something super tough, Like I wanted someone
that would be open with me and I've tried really
hard to remain open after you know, any field relationship,
and so for me, it felt like we were coming
from a place of understanding with each other. And like
(04:47):
I said, he was just so intentional with every little thing,
like every little opportunity he could show me that he cared,
he did, and you know, all the other stuff is
there too, But for me, that's what was different, and
that's what made it were of a gradual thing, because
it just felt like every day there was a little
bit more Brandon. You're also so emotional, and I can't
(05:10):
get over how sweet that is. How how did all
your friends and family what they think about you crying
on TV out of love so much roasted like because
I'm not like that, but I just really my dream
is that, like you get that emotional and passionate about everything.
Maybe no, maybe I want you to like reserve that
(05:33):
for the love of your life. Yeah, for that and
then never like like say the date that went on
when I teared up because I saw her like I've
never it was like soon. It's just like the show
was capturing all those moments, just like yeah, see. But
that's perfect for me though, because I've always like how
(05:54):
people try to play it so cool, and so the
fact that like you wear your heart on your sleeve,
and I always is know what you're feeling because I
know I'm not cool, and I just hope for the best.
You're like the perfect combination of cool and uncool to
any sense. You have swag, that's the thing. You have swag,
(06:19):
but you're also uncool, which is the perfect guy. It's
my swag, but dorky is out. Okay. So I want
to know the two moments Serene, When was the moment
that you were like, if this guy gets down on
one day, I'm saying yes, Oh gosh, it's so hard
to think of an exact moment, like it really is,
(06:42):
just because everything was so gradual and we had those
serious talks like very early on, like what are you
here for? Like no one wanted to leave the other
person on. I don't know, maybe I think for me
maybe in like my like in the moment whenever we
(07:03):
came back from the Beat or from the Vedanta when
we were split up, we had already said we were
falling in love and so we were both re frustrated
and we're like, yeah, this is kind of wasting our time,
Like we have a lot to talk about still and
want to just like continue the growth that we've had.
And so I don't think that you like fully see
(07:25):
it on the show, but like the embrace was like crazy,
and he like I saw it. It was adorable. He
like runs me down to the water and he's like,
did you go on any dates? And I was like, no,
did you? And he was like, I love you. But
it was just like in that moment where like we reconnected,
(07:46):
and I mean we both were secure in our relationship,
but in that moment, like there was a lot more
to the conversation than we got to see. And so
I think maybe for me the waves are crashing in
the background, we were like half in the water. It
was it was they cut it all out, but it
was like we were I was laughing and I was
(08:09):
holding her and we were laughing together, and I was like, oh,
I missed you. She's like I missed you too. And
I was like, wait, did you go on any dates?
She's like no, did you? I was like, no, I
love you. You see other people? Yeah? Right, Oh you guys,
that's adorable, Brandon. When did you know that you were
(08:31):
going to propose? When she drew exactly what rings she
wanted on the naption and said, if you see Neil,
let him know this is Oh that was kind of
like okay, yeah, like I get the hint. Now what
point was that? Oh? That was well that was after
(08:58):
after okay, and yeah, so we all got together and
she just like we were eating breakfast. It really wasn't
that ye and she was like she came up with
a napkin, she drew like it was like from the
left side, it looks like, yeah, and you got what
(09:21):
you wanted. I did perfect gorgeous. Well, Brandon, that's when
you knew that she was gonna say yes. But when
were you like, I gotta marry this woman. Oh when
I got to marry this woman. Oh when I saw
her coming from the date, like I teared up. I
was like, oh, I gotta there's no way, my heart,
my heart. You guys are seriously so sweet. So we
(09:54):
all saw your engagement coming for real, for real, you know,
like it was like the least surprising thing of Bachelor Nation,
like history basically. Um, and I have to say, I'm
not sure that I've ever seen a couple that I
felt so strong was going to not only get engaged,
but to be absolutely fine in real life. Then you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:20):
we're just we're just like, this is the day we're
like free. We can go out to dinner together, we
can like to walk in the park together, like you
want to walk down the street together. So today's the
first day you get to do that. What are the plans?
Step outside, literally, step outside, we'll just see where the
(10:44):
day goes. Now, we're gonna go on a date. We're
gonna we're gonna go to dinner together. Yeah, like walking,
I don't know. I don't know. We're just so excited
to just be I don't know anything. Okay, after your engagement,
Jesse walks up with a book and I go, oh god,
they're going to try to make them get married right now. No,
(11:05):
don't do this. As much as I want to see
them get married, I want them to enjoy an engagement period,
and I want these two to have their family and
friends at their wedding. This is so unfair. Don't pressure
them into this. Did you have any thought that you
might do it or were you just like, oh heck no,
Like I know Brendon News you mentioned that you called
your mom and she said I'll kill you if you
(11:26):
do this. Did you call her in the moment or
were you like, guess what funny thing they wanted us
to do? It was? It was? It was we both
were like, yeah, we won't get married, but like, we're
not getting married with you getting married without our period.
It's like, Jessie, I love you, but you're not my pops.
You know my mom like her family, and then yeah,
(11:49):
I called my mom. I was like, guess what they
just asked And I was like, Jesse came down with
an ordained book Like I was like, I think about
me getting married right now, and she's like, I'll kill you.
The boom boom room wasn't really used by anyone else
this year besides Jared and I, which makes me feel
incredibly awkward. But Bachelor data, the Instagram account has tracked
(12:13):
this and there's been no airing of boom boom room use.
Did you guys go the boom boom room? No, nobody did.
Did you really? And why is that with your cast?
Because usually it's very frequently used. Honestly, I think for
thee of the people want to love, like, I think
it was like very daunting and people were afraid of
like how it would like shift things in the relationship
(12:35):
or maybe how it would look. I think, for like
the whole cast, I think most people really just wanted
to focus on the important stuff, like just like really
getting to know each other and also not wanting to
add something else to the equation. I don't know, I
can't really speak to the people. Yeah, I think I
(12:56):
think it was like, also people we were the most
people don't concern to We're like, yeah, I'll do it,
But then does that help my chances if someone else
were to come down those steps but tryangle what I
get in, what I'd be in a deeper triangle. I
don't know. I think here we saw a lot of
like sticky situations in season seven that I'm sure sure yeah,
(13:19):
maybe people were like yeah, yeah, definitely last season it
was it was a complicated point of complication for sure. Okay,
now I got to ask you about the other couples.
What do you make of the whole Johnny in Victory situation?
How awkward was it to watch that showdown at the reunion?
(13:40):
So we actually didn't see it? You didn't you're aware
of it? Yeah, yeah, we're close to them. I think
ultimately we just want them both to be happy, and
if they're happier separately, like we just it is literally
coincidence that I was closest with Victoria of Beach and
(14:00):
then he was close with Johnny, and we haven't really doubles, um,
so I think just both of us looking at our
friends and seeing like okay, like if you're deciding this
isn't working for you, then you know, we want you
to be happy. We just want them happy. Um, I
don't think Greg should have been there. I think you
should have just been them too, yeah, working it out.
(14:22):
But other than that, yeah, we just want them happy.
We love them both. So yeah, why would you feel
specifically about Greg being there? I just I just I
think he's a great guy and everything. Awesome guy. But
I just I just think it was like a moment
for them to like kind of have stuff out. I
(14:43):
don't think he needed to be there necessarily, you know,
I can't speak on him. Maybe Victoria needed support or whatever. Sure,
that's why it was so um, but I just think,
you know, in that moment, you know, if if we
were you and you had a new guy and I
was there, it kind of hurt me even more than
what I'm going through. So yeah, I'm just for sure
(15:06):
it is a dagger. When you guys sat down at
that dinner with Victoria and Johnny before Fantasy Suites, did
you feel like they were ready for engagement? Did you
feel like they were on the same level as you guys. Um,
I thought that they were ready. Yeah. Really, yeah, I
think you know, they had some more stuff to work out.
(15:28):
There was a lot we didn't know about like during
that time, like what just like any any um like uncertainty.
Like I was like, oh my gosh, Johnny's like head
of reveals for her. He's gonna propose, Like I didn't
know that there was any like you know, you kind
of seen his interviews He's like, I don't know, there's
a big commitment. I know what she wants, but like,
(15:48):
am I ready for it? Like is it something that
you know anyone's ever ready for? Like do people just
you know, so you like watch these thoughts play out
in his interview, and you know it kind of like
makes a little more sin No. But I think at
the time, we thought that they were ready, and you know,
we spent time with him. That was really cool. We
got to spend time with him like as a couple
(16:09):
to after that and we thought, you know, we're gonna
be hanging out for years. M hmm. But yeah, I
thought I thought they were ready. And plus she was
changing Johnny for the best, Like because I hung out
with Johnny a lot and he was like, I don't
want to go home with daughter, And I was like you,
I mean you don't have to, So Shad, let's talk
(16:31):
about Rodney and Eliza. Everybody was so distraught about that breakup,
and then it looked like a lies. I kind of
wanted to get back with him. At the reunion, I
personally was glad that he was like I wish you
the best, which is kind of like a passive aggressive phrase.
I was tossed around a lot this season. What's your take?
(16:55):
I think, first of all, I didn't even cry during
my own breakup on Bachelor, and I cried like when
all this, I was like, like, we all just love
Ronnie so much, so that was hard to watch. I
think ultimately we we understood from the start, like everyone
has a choice. I think what made it so heart
(17:17):
wrenching is that he thought he was in the clear,
like he had the rose, and yeah, I thought we
can move on from this, like two day's a new day,
and that's all he was talking about all day long.
So to just like watch that happen, it was really tough. Um,
that's part of the reunion I wish I got to see.
I think it's messy. I think Ronnie did an amazing
job holding standing to his ground. Yeah, I think it's messy.
(17:39):
I don't think, Hey, you leave Ronnie, go to Justin.
Justin ended up not wanting to be with you. Then
you try to come back to Rude. I think it's messy.
I think at that point you need to sit down,
you know, words, stuff out, heal yourself, and then you
know that person will ride. And I think that's what
Ronnie's doing. So, yeah, he's doing great, He's alright. The
(18:01):
final question that I want to ask you about is
Tyler and Brittany. I love Brittany. When I was there,
really like felt a kinship to her, and something just
seems to be missing from the explanation of her breakup
with Tyler. You guys have any insight. I think maybe
it's just that they live in different places and have
different lives. Like it's one of those things where you
(18:23):
know it was great in theory, but then you get
to the real world and there are all these obstacles
that you have to overcome as a couple. All right, Well,
thank you guys so much. Please go enjoy newlywed. Yeah,
I'm gonna call it newlywed bliss. All right, that's what
it feels like. Newly released from the Bachelor Vault bliss
(18:45):
and who's who's having Thanksgiving with? Who he's going to
my family? And okay, nice? All right, Well, I hope
you have the most magical Thanksgiving and family time and
you guys just live it up. Thank you so much.
We're so so thrilled for you. You have a good
Thanksgiving to Okay, we will tell Jared I listened to
(19:06):
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This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with i R Radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost
Famous podcast. Today. It is just me, but not really
because I'm joined by the happiest happy couple I think
I've ever seen in my life, Brandon and Serene. Oh
my gosh, welcome to the show, you guys. It's so
(00:21):
great to see you guys again. Jared and I had
absolutely no doubts that you were going to live happily
ever after and be the couple that had smooth sailing
the entire way. Um, congratulations, thank you, Oh my gosh, Okay,
good to see you again. It was so good to
see you. We have been telling everybody how like genuinely
(00:45):
sweet as pie you two are. It's like there's not
like any sort of there's like there's like no negativity
around you ever. And um, I can just yeah, I
can go on and on about just the bliss that
is around you. Now, let's kind of go what's funny
is that, Like usually we'd like to dive into Selesia stuff,
(01:06):
but like with you guys, there's absolutely no Sealsia stuff.
So I just want to like go like time by
time throughout paradise and talk about like the happiest moments
and like the biggest like heart flutters and all that. Yeah, okay,
so let's talk about the time you guys both first
laid eyes on each other. Who was down there first,
(01:28):
wasn't it? It It was Serene? Right? Yeah? So you're the
first girl, right, Yeah? I was the first girl, And honestly,
I was down there for like hours before anyone like
pulled me to talk like romantic Wait what Yeah, So
it was like probably like six five or six pm
(01:49):
by the time someone had pulled me to talk, and
I was there that morning. And so when I went
into this show, I was thinking, like, I just really
need someone intentional that is gonna show me that they
have interested in me, because usually it feels like I
have more interests in people than they have in me.
And so I just wanted someone to really like show
me that they were interested. And then this guy and
(02:14):
it's like you, I want to talk to you. Oh
that's so sweet. So Brendon was Serene on your list
of ladies you wanted to see in Paradise most definitely.
The funny part was like I kept seeing people go by,
like down to the beach, and I'm like, yo, like,
once I get down there, like everyone's talking to everyone,
(02:34):
everyone's probably coupled up, like I have to go just
like I have to bolt to the people who are
on my list, like I gotta talk to you. I
gotta talk to you that you and uh so a
little liquid courage and I came down the beach. I
was like, okay, I'm not wasting any time, like, hey,
let's go talk. He was almost like the last one though,
like and he was someone that I was like, okay,
(02:55):
like I really want to meet him. And so it
was just really tough. So there all day and then
like no one's talking to me, and then you just
came right up. And then what I'm being told, it's like,
oh yeah, everyone's making connections already, everyone's talking and I'm like,
all right, thanks Jesse, I appreciate you. So when you
(03:16):
saw her in real life, did you have a love
at first first site moments? Oh? She was. She was
way more gorgeous in person than you know what I
saw a TV. So yeah, I'm pretty sure life just
bumbled my words. I went, you know, back to my
old self. I just got super corny. And then somehow
it word Serene. You talked to the past episode about
(03:40):
how you felt he was intentional, and for you it
was always like a serious interest, but maybe not like love.
And you said that it grew with time, which I
know Brandon saw as a compliment and I know you
meant as a compliment. Um, But how does that kind
(04:01):
of love differ from the past kinds of love you've had? Yeah,
I think with Brandon early on we had a lot
of this serious talks to see like are we even compatible,
like do we want the same things in life? Obviously
we were attracted to each other and you know that
that came super naturally. But for me, what really stood
(04:24):
out was him opening his heart to me after kind
of going through something super tough, Like I wanted someone
that would be open with me and I've tried really
hard to remain open after you know, any field relationship,
and so for me, it felt like we were coming
from a place of understanding with each other. And like
(04:47):
I said, he was just so intentional with every little thing,
like every little opportunity he could show me that he cared,
he did, and you know, all the other stuff is
there too, But for me, that's what was different, and
that's what made it were of a gradual thing, because
it just felt like every day there was a little
bit more Brandon. You're also so emotional, and I can't
(05:10):
get over how sweet that is. How how did all
your friends and family what they think about you crying
on TV out of love so much roasted like because
I'm not like that, but I just really my dream
is that, like you get that emotional and passionate about everything.
Maybe no, maybe I want you to like reserve that
(05:33):
for the love of your life. Yeah, for that and
then never like like say the date that went on
when I teared up because I saw her like I've
never it was like soon. It's just like the show
was capturing all those moments, just like yeah, see. But
that's perfect for me though, because I've always like how
(05:54):
people try to play it so cool, and so the
fact that like you wear your heart on your sleeve,
and I always is know what you're feeling because I
know I'm not cool, and I just hope for the best.
You're like the perfect combination of cool and uncool to
any sense. You have swag, that's the thing. You have swag,
(06:19):
but you're also uncool, which is the perfect guy. It's
my swag, but dorky is out. Okay. So I want
to know the two moments Serene, When was the moment
that you were like, if this guy gets down on
one day, I'm saying yes, Oh gosh, it's so hard
to think of an exact moment, like it really is,
(06:42):
just because everything was so gradual and we had those
serious talks like very early on, like what are you
here for? Like no one wanted to leave the other
person on. I don't know, maybe I think for me
maybe in like my like in the moment whenever we
(07:03):
came back from the Beat or from the Vedanta when
we were split up, we had already said we were
falling in love and so we were both re frustrated
and we're like, yeah, this is kind of wasting our time,
Like we have a lot to talk about still and
want to just like continue the growth that we've had.
And so I don't think that you like fully see
(07:25):
it on the show, but like the embrace was like crazy,
and he like I saw it. It was adorable. He
like runs me down to the water and he's like,
did you go on any dates? And I was like, no,
did you? And he was like, I love you. But
it was just like in that moment where like we reconnected,
(07:46):
and I mean we both were secure in our relationship,
but in that moment, like there was a lot more
to the conversation than we got to see. And so
I think maybe for me the waves are crashing in
the background, we were like half in the water. It
was it was they cut it all out, but it
was like we were I was laughing and I was
(08:09):
holding her and we were laughing together, and I was like, oh,
I missed you. She's like I missed you too. And
I was like, wait, did you go on any dates?
She's like no, did you? I was like, no, I
love you. You see other people? Yeah? Right, Oh you guys,
that's adorable, Brandon. When did you know that you were
(08:31):
going to propose? When she drew exactly what rings she
wanted on the naption and said, if you see Neil,
let him know this is Oh that was kind of
like okay, yeah, like I get the hint. Now what
point was that? Oh? That was well that was after
(08:58):
after okay, and yeah, so we all got together and
she just like we were eating breakfast. It really wasn't
that ye and she was like she came up with
a napkin, she drew like it was like from the
left side, it looks like, yeah, and you got what
(09:21):
you wanted. I did perfect gorgeous. Well, Brandon, that's when
you knew that she was gonna say yes. But when
were you like, I gotta marry this woman. Oh when
I got to marry this woman. Oh when I saw
her coming from the date, like I teared up. I
was like, oh, I gotta there's no way, my heart,
my heart. You guys are seriously so sweet. So we
(09:54):
all saw your engagement coming for real, for real, you know,
like it was like the least surprising thing of Bachelor Nation,
like history basically. Um, and I have to say, I'm
not sure that I've ever seen a couple that I
felt so strong was going to not only get engaged,
but to be absolutely fine in real life. Then you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:20):
we're just we're just like, this is the day we're
like free. We can go out to dinner together, we
can like to walk in the park together, like you
want to walk down the street together. So today's the
first day you get to do that. What are the plans?
Step outside, literally, step outside, we'll just see where the
(10:44):
day goes. Now, we're gonna go on a date. We're
gonna we're gonna go to dinner together. Yeah, like walking,
I don't know. I don't know. We're just so excited
to just be I don't know anything. Okay, after your engagement,
Jesse walks up with a book and I go, oh god,
they're going to try to make them get married right now. No,
(11:05):
don't do this. As much as I want to see
them get married, I want them to enjoy an engagement period,
and I want these two to have their family and
friends at their wedding. This is so unfair. Don't pressure
them into this. Did you have any thought that you
might do it or were you just like, oh heck no,
Like I know Brendon News you mentioned that you called
your mom and she said I'll kill you if you
(11:26):
do this. Did you call her in the moment or
were you like, guess what funny thing they wanted us
to do? It was? It was? It was we both
were like, yeah, we won't get married, but like, we're
not getting married with you getting married without our period.
It's like, Jessie, I love you, but you're not my pops.
You know my mom like her family, and then yeah,
(11:49):
I called my mom. I was like, guess what they
just asked And I was like, Jesse came down with
an ordained book Like I was like, I think about
me getting married right now, and she's like, I'll kill you.
The boom boom room wasn't really used by anyone else
this year besides Jared and I, which makes me feel
incredibly awkward. But Bachelor data, the Instagram account has tracked
(12:13):
this and there's been no airing of boom boom room use.
Did you guys go the boom boom room? No, nobody did.
Did you really? And why is that with your cast?
Because usually it's very frequently used. Honestly, I think for
thee of the people want to love, like, I think
it was like very daunting and people were afraid of
like how it would like shift things in the relationship
(12:35):
or maybe how it would look. I think, for like
the whole cast, I think most people really just wanted
to focus on the important stuff, like just like really
getting to know each other and also not wanting to
add something else to the equation. I don't know, I
can't really speak to the people. Yeah, I think I
(12:56):
think it was like, also people we were the most
people don't concern to We're like, yeah, I'll do it,
But then does that help my chances if someone else
were to come down those steps but tryangle what I
get in, what I'd be in a deeper triangle. I
don't know. I think here we saw a lot of
like sticky situations in season seven that I'm sure sure yeah,
(13:19):
maybe people were like yeah, yeah, definitely last season it
was it was a complicated point of complication for sure. Okay,
now I got to ask you about the other couples.
What do you make of the whole Johnny in Victory situation?
How awkward was it to watch that showdown at the reunion?
(13:40):
So we actually didn't see it? You didn't you're aware
of it? Yeah, yeah, we're close to them. I think
ultimately we just want them both to be happy, and
if they're happier separately, like we just it is literally
coincidence that I was closest with Victoria of Beach and
(14:00):
then he was close with Johnny, and we haven't really doubles, um,
so I think just both of us looking at our
friends and seeing like okay, like if you're deciding this
isn't working for you, then you know, we want you
to be happy. We just want them happy. Um, I
don't think Greg should have been there. I think you
should have just been them too, yeah, working it out.
(14:22):
But other than that, yeah, we just want them happy.
We love them both. So yeah, why would you feel
specifically about Greg being there? I just I just I
think he's a great guy and everything. Awesome guy. But
I just I just think it was like a moment
for them to like kind of have stuff out. I
(14:43):
don't think he needed to be there necessarily, you know,
I can't speak on him. Maybe Victoria needed support or whatever. Sure,
that's why it was so um, but I just think,
you know, in that moment, you know, if if we
were you and you had a new guy and I
was there, it kind of hurt me even more than
what I'm going through. So yeah, I'm just for sure
(15:06):
it is a dagger. When you guys sat down at
that dinner with Victoria and Johnny before Fantasy Suites, did
you feel like they were ready for engagement? Did you
feel like they were on the same level as you guys. Um,
I thought that they were ready. Yeah. Really, yeah, I
think you know, they had some more stuff to work out.
(15:28):
There was a lot we didn't know about like during
that time, like what just like any any um like uncertainty.
Like I was like, oh my gosh, Johnny's like head
of reveals for her. He's gonna propose, Like I didn't
know that there was any like you know, you kind
of seen his interviews He's like, I don't know, there's
a big commitment. I know what she wants, but like,
(15:48):
am I ready for it? Like is it something that
you know anyone's ever ready for? Like do people just
you know, so you like watch these thoughts play out
in his interview, and you know it kind of like
makes a little more sin No. But I think at
the time, we thought that they were ready, and you know,
we spent time with him. That was really cool. We
got to spend time with him like as a couple
(16:09):
to after that and we thought, you know, we're gonna
be hanging out for years. M hmm. But yeah, I
thought I thought they were ready. And plus she was
changing Johnny for the best, Like because I hung out
with Johnny a lot and he was like, I don't
want to go home with daughter, And I was like you,
I mean you don't have to, So Shad, let's talk
(16:31):
about Rodney and Eliza. Everybody was so distraught about that breakup,
and then it looked like a lies. I kind of
wanted to get back with him. At the reunion, I
personally was glad that he was like I wish you
the best, which is kind of like a passive aggressive phrase.
I was tossed around a lot this season. What's your take?
(16:55):
I think, first of all, I didn't even cry during
my own breakup on Bachelor, and I cried like when
all this, I was like, like, we all just love
Ronnie so much, so that was hard to watch. I
think ultimately we we understood from the start, like everyone
has a choice. I think what made it so heart
(17:17):
wrenching is that he thought he was in the clear,
like he had the rose, and yeah, I thought we
can move on from this, like two day's a new day,
and that's all he was talking about all day long.
So to just like watch that happen, it was really tough. Um,
that's part of the reunion I wish I got to see.
I think it's messy. I think Ronnie did an amazing
job holding standing to his ground. Yeah, I think it's messy.
(17:39):
I don't think, Hey, you leave Ronnie, go to Justin.
Justin ended up not wanting to be with you. Then
you try to come back to Rude. I think it's messy.
I think at that point you need to sit down,
you know, words, stuff out, heal yourself, and then you
know that person will ride. And I think that's what
Ronnie's doing. So, yeah, he's doing great, He's alright. The
(18:01):
final question that I want to ask you about is
Tyler and Brittany. I love Brittany. When I was there,
really like felt a kinship to her, and something just
seems to be missing from the explanation of her breakup
with Tyler. You guys have any insight. I think maybe
it's just that they live in different places and have
different lives. Like it's one of those things where you
(18:23):
know it was great in theory, but then you get
to the real world and there are all these obstacles
that you have to overcome as a couple. All right, Well,
thank you guys so much. Please go enjoy newlywed. Yeah,
I'm gonna call it newlywed bliss. All right, that's what
it feels like. Newly released from the Bachelor Vault bliss
(18:45):
and who's who's having Thanksgiving with? Who he's going to
my family? And okay, nice? All right, Well, I hope
you have the most magical Thanksgiving and family time and
you guys just live it up. Thank you so much.
We're so so thrilled for you. You have a good
Thanksgiving to Okay, we will tell Jared I listened to
(19:06):
Oh we will, we will, we all tell him they Hey.
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