Bobby & Eddie went to California to sit down with Hall of Fame QB, Steve Young for almost an hour. Steve talked about a former Hall of Famer baptizing teammates in the ocean during the Pro Bowl, the coach who didn't want him, his musical Mt. Rushmore, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is a podcast called twenty five Whist.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He was talking to Fall and they are whizz So yeah,
it's too bad, but what did you expect.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five Whist.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Souls Twyne, what's up? Everybody? Welcome to the show where
this one's gonna be cool because it's us with Steve
Young for an hour NFL Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Super nice guy. I met him, I guess a year
and a half maybe more than that now, met him
on a golf course and was nervous to go talk
to him and then want to talk to him and
he was like, oh, listen to your show and I
was like, yo, whatever, and then he like quoted back
a couple of segments and I was like, dang, that's crazy.
Then I was talking about him on the show one
day a year later as like one of the top
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five coolest people I've ever met. He happened to be listening.
He texted me and I was like, how'd you get
my number? And he was like, I called the golf
course and I was like that's cool. So then we
went to Oregon, and since we were a west already,
I was like, Hey, we're going to be out there.
Will you be around and he said, yeah, come on.
So we went to his office and he was in
the middle of working with us, and then he was
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going to do like a maybe like a Dallas Cowboys
documentary on the championships they won. But we had We
flew into Polo Alto and we're with him for an hour.
Longer than that. He signed my football card. It was
a whole thing. It was super awesome. So we're just
going to play the interview as is because it's it's
an hour, right guys, close close, yeah, close to an hour.
(01:31):
So here he is, I'll shut up. Here is one
of the greats of all time left handed. I say
that because him and Boomerasison were the only two left
handed quarterback, because I would ever watch and be like, dang,
that's why I'm a quarterback. But then I wasn't after
like fourth grade. All right, here he is Steve Young. First,
I'd like to explain how I ended up here. I
was playing a golf tournament I was invited to. It
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was it was super cool.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I was h end but high end golf, but I
was excited to just be invited elite golf tournament and me.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And so there's like seven people on a green and
I see somebody holding court and all the people are
like laughing, ha ha haa. This guy's holding court and
there's like a little crease and I see it's Steve
Young in the crease and everybody is listening to every word,
every breath he's saying. And I'm like, I love Steve Young.
I'm left handed. When I was a kid, I would
watch you play and think this is the roots.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm leaning closer now, yeah, this is the root because
it's very rare.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I was a left handed quarterback rare, and I was like,
Steve Young, if he can do it, I realize that.
So I walk up and I get into the crowd
of people and they're all laughing. I don't know what
you're saying, but I'm like, everybody fades away, and I say, hello,
mister Steve Young. My name is Bobby. I just want
to say I'm a big fan. And then I started
to walk away and you said I know who you are,
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and my life changed.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, no, because strangely, my two girls are in high
school that were still at that point where like eighth
and tenth grade, so I was driving them everywhere, and
every morning I'm carpool and by Bones Joe and they
they love country music and I always loved it kind
of quietly, but then when my kids, I'm like, oh,
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this is amazing, and so listen to you every morning,
and so I wanted. I went home and I.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Said, girls, guess who I met Bobby Bones? And then
it was and then I think you mentioned me somewhere
randomly on the show. Randomly we were driving and it's like,
my girls are like, he just said your name.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So it works in a strange circle. But finish the
story though, to really like people need to know this.
So it's an elite kind of golf invite to go
to the AT and T and Bobby was there and
it was all set to go, and it was like
you play Thursday and Friday and you make the cut
or not whatever. So it's Wednesday. This is when we
met on Wednesday, and like I go Thursday to kind
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of tell him. I told him I remember, you know
something I remembered the show. And he's gone like he
big time that I had to work. No no, no, no,
no no. The Grammy's called and it's like, oh, sorry,
elite people I'm out of here. I've never seen that
done by anybody who's ever been via the eighteen in
my life ever that you just show up and it's
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like see you, and like even people who have been
like presidential campaign, but nobody says see you to the
aten T except for the great body see you.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So then what happens is we're talking about Like for me,
it was like the fight.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
He's trying to back, don't let him go. I mean,
I see Steve from your perspective, he did big time
the at and T PLA.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I thought, and I want to sid it to everybody
at A D and T and Pebble Beach and every
pebble and every beach. But what really had love you all?
He had to go work, so regardless, I'm on the air.
And the question was because I have a job much
like yours. Well, we've been able to meet a lot
of cool people, a lot of famous people, and that
doesn't always mix. Some famous people are cool, some aren't.
Some cool people are famous, some are and they're like,
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who are like the coolest famous people you met? And
I had listed I loved County Crows, Adam Durret's cool.
I went through the list of my top five, and
you were my top five.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I couldn't believe that. My kids thought I honestly, they
don't know what I did before, and they think I'm
kind of like boring and like and when you said
my name is the top five, my kids like.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh, Dad, well that's very nice.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So Bobby, thank you for putting me on the pedestal
at home, I get.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And then I get a text him an unknown number,
and I'm like, oh, my stalker's back thinking, and it
was and it was Steve. And the first thing he
says is, I remember the bit I was talking about,
how did you get my number? I'm glad you did,
but that feels like you.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think you gave it to me that brief moment.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
No chance, because I would never afford I would never
have said I think you would want my number. There's
no chance. I would have been too insecure to even
offer my number.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well that's a really good point. When you said my
name top five, and I said, okay, I've got to
reach out to him, it's like anybody with I might
have gotten to Steve Johnathan out of Beach. I think
that's what I did.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Who I did, not big time. I love Steve John
out heroic to me, and that's how we're are here.
I do want to start though, because I have taken
a crash course and Forever Young, which is your I
appreciate that your charity, and there are a couple of
things that I would like to talk about. First of all,
I know your wife, Barb and the music component of it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, we did that. Yes, this weekend Monday, we opened
up our ninth one renowned children's hospital and a reno.
So it's a it's music. Would you explain music therapy?
Therapy is crazy, Like, I'm not a musician. I only
dream I would if you guys could. I wish I
could help the regime regime, so I wish I could
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do anything. If I could sing, I would give up everything.
I would give up all. But I love as everyone does,
they love music. My wife, when she was in college,
a friend of hers who gotten a terrible car accident,
terrible brain injury. She did the research, which is my
wife's way to kind of like and she figured out
that there's this thing called music music therapy. And she
went and played bon Jovi because I was her favorite band.
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Like over like this, all the time in the in
the room, and she believed it's changed. It helped, and
no one else is like, you know whatever, that doesn't
make any sense. So then twenty years later, a dear
friend of ours that I grew up with, daughter who
was seventeen a musician and she was down in La
recording she was going to be a star. She passed
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away like out of like this, on a hike at
a girls camp. And so it was a year anniversary
of that tragedy that Barb's like, wait a second, we
need to honor her because she had done to the
children's She would got to the children's hospital nearby and
play for the kids. As a seventh year old, you
know like this, I want to help, I want to
do things. So we started Sophie's Place, the name of
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Sophie for music therapy, and at the time, in two
thousand and six, music therapy in hospitals was starting. They
used to have a heart and the music therapists would
go around a room to room and it's like, no,
we need a space. And so we went to the
hospital and said, look, we'll we'll build the space and
what's funded with the music therapists music therapy is crazy
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because music is the only thing that crosses over the
both sides of the brain. Language doesn't do that, and
so the music is ends up to be a scientific medicine,
like there's specific things that you can do in motion
for beating a drum or pain or because pain and
music travel the same places and so if there's music,
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it can't be as much pain. And so there's all that.
There's hundreds of prescriptions written every day by doctors for
the music therapists for specific things for medicine for the
healing of kids in Schildn's Hospital. So that's that's that,
and I wish I was a musician. We had Dan
Reynolds came and the Imagine Dragons, we had Chester Bennington
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take a park Lincoln Park before. We've had a number
of people come through and play for the kids, and
so I encourage it. Page idiots pick up Trulln's Hospital.
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So I used to be on the board of a
similar group called Musicians on Call and we would go
and especially with older like eighties and nineties who were
in the hospital, and it was there we would learn
songs from when they were young and it would be
the only time that you would see them light up
like there would be and because if they didn't remember
whatever they didn't remember, what they would remember is how
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they felt when that music was played when they were
a kid, and it was like to see it even briefly.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So it's not we know that music has that effect,
but I think I just want to make sure that
people understand that there's a science to the specific things
that music, like brain injuries. They can't get kids to
move their arms, but if they can beat a drum
for some reason, so they beat a drum and they
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use that as they beat the drum to reteach them
how to eat. And so there's just music has this
strange power over and Chester Bennington's the one that told me.
He says they haven't figured out where where uh music
starts in the brain. And he says that's because that's
where God sits and no one will actually find it.
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So I said, I remember chester Ton.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I went and looked up the charity on the there's
a website and goes, you have a charity is legit?
You guys got one hundred percent. I was worried. Honestly,
I was like, oh, man, do I ever want to
go look at this and I wait, could be scaled,
and I will say it with full authority. It is
not all the stars.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That was yeah, so uh charity navigator, we're one of
the ones. Thank goodness. No, we're we're a little we're
a little group. We're not big. We we peck away
every year. We trade in all this memorabilia for our
golf tournaments to raise the money. And uh, we just
we find like minded people and do our little our
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garden in our little corner of the world and try
to do something good.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Let's talk sports a little bit. Oh, I want to
show you because this to me. Let me sit in
my pocket.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You show me your MVP trophy from last week.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know I couldn't. I couldn't look my pocket as
a belt. It was a really nice belt. I couldn't
travel with it. But ipen to open these. But these
are cards from like nineteen ninety These are pro Line.
These are the weirdest.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, these.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Are the weirdest cards I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
These are the ones because.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Some guys have that don't have their shirt on. I
wanted to roll through some of these cards. Your card
actually wasn't that weird. I put this in. Do you
remember this? Do you remember this picture?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I do, But that's amazing that there's someone with those.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It's odd. So what I wanted to do was roll
through some of these cards that I have not opened yet.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This is magic trick.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I wish that'd be cool. You can't open it here?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Do want me to do it?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, I don't want to rip it. Here we go.
And if I pull up a player that you remember, yeah,
and if you have a story about that player.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I would like to hear it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, but there's a lot of stories I can't tell.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well, then don't tell those or tell that will pay
the micro right you'll Okay, let's start with Bobby. He
already k know who it was, Bobby Brister.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So some people like, it's what's fun the league? The
NFL is full of just characters right from everywhere. And
if I remember, Bobby was like not Cajun like, uh,
Bobby a Bear, because Bobby a Bear played for the Saints.
When you met Bobby Aber, he's like he would speak English,
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but Cajun English. And I'd be like, hey, bro, I
don't know you do I don't know and so then
I thought, Okay, you're in the Superdome and seventy thousand,
eighty thousand people are screaming, and you're in the huddle,
and Bobby Aber's gone to play. I'd be like, bro
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because this every else speak caging. No, no, they don't.
So there's all these good and Bubby Brister is that
kind of a character. He's My memory is that he
was from the South, and uh, he was a country like.
I can see Bubby growing up in a place where
you know, all the songs are with the dirt road
and the fish and uh, you know, and you know
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all the great lyrics. I'm just screwing up right now.
But uh, and that's what Bubby's a Bubby is a
country dude.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Do you recognize that guy? This would be a guy
Pierce Hold. Do you play with it?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
The pier hold. That's the most serious thing I've ever
seen a Pierce Hold. Oh my gosh. Look he's looking
up in the distance like weird like look of George
Washington cross into Delaware. Yes, you're looking for something really important.
He never he never found anything important. I can promise
you that here's a good dude. But that's the other
thing about guys in the NFL is that these good
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dudes that are like really kind hearted. Pierce is a
kind hearted guy, very soft spoken, but was like massive,
Like if you walked in the room, you're like, hey,
whoa stay there? And he was so big and strong,
and then you go play and you're like, holy crap.
There is like two sides to people. Are there two
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sides to you? Do you have a side that if
it's time to go, like turn it like it's time I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
On the quarterback and podcast now, thanks for asking, Steve.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, no, but is it because Pierce had two sides?
He was most of the time kind, peaceful, and then
you go play, You're like that dude is different.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think and you probably have a version of this
as well. For me, I'm on all the time if
I am performing on stage, doing a radio show or
a TV show. But when I'm not on, I'm off,
meaning I'm very quiet. I'm a wallflower. I don't have
much to say because all I do is say and
I know you have opinions.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Otherwise otherwise you could be you all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I would have no no energy, no.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Juice, no, it was just it would be I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, so I would say that would be like off
and or on.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I mean no, I'm kind of mean, you're always all
the time. No, I'm on. I mean, well, when Bobby's talking,
because when we're on Steve he's always talking, I know,
so he just let him talk. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Here, and you don't have to comment on this guy.
But see he has no shirt on in this picture.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh yeah, look at that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
These are like little bellies. Yeah, they're like glamour shots.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Who is that? Oh? Greg Town's okay, how about you're
a coach. Here there's another George Washington crossing the Delaware.
That's he's the he's the Cajun coach, right, Jim Mora. Yeah,
Saints playoffs? You know that's right? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, let's do one more? Did you have another one atdie?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
See Matt Millan in there also? Wait Matt Millon. Ye,
good friend of mine played for the Raiders for a
long time, joined the forty nine ers, and uh, he
would have us. Partner was we were roommates. So we
hung together and Matt would invite us because we're single,
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for dinner for the family and he'd say, look six
fifteen and so. But don't don't come later early, just
be there six fifteen. So we would kind of wait
around the corner until six fifteen because we didn't want
to mess up. So we pulled in and then he'd
open the door and he'd be in his underwear and
he'd be like, yeah, come in, and the kids would
be all around the table and we go in and
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eat eight and he's like eat, you know, and so
we would eat and then he would like we'd finish.
He's like, okay, now leave, so we would leave and
it was the greatest It was the greatest invite you
could ever have to come to somebody's house because you
don't have to say anything. You just got to be
on time. You don't look at the underwear, and just
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go in and eat and eat and leave, like literally
encouraged to leave as fast as you can. And we'd
be full. Pat would make tremendous food and we'd walk
out like it's amazing, Like this is the greatest thing ever.
And the first time I ever met Matt Mellon, he
was playing for the Raiders linebacker and I was a
rookie and I was in the league, like you know,
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and I'm playing the Raiders and and I'm you know,
you can imagine like you break the huddle and you're
like and Matt Mellon's like alert alert alert, Mormon in
the backfield, Moreman in the backfield, alert alert, look around?
What does he talk about? I I that threw me
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for a long time and that and I have laughed
about that forever. But he was the kind of guy
that would do stupid stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
When you when you leave BYU and you go to
the USFL, you put a year there? What was that even?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Like? Yeah, so it was amazing. It was like the
NFL has been around forever, this upstart league. Young most
of us were twenty one, twenty two years old. We
were living in la We were being coached by John
Hadl who was famous kind of a quarterback back in
the day. And Sid Gilman, one of the he was
old at that time, but he was the godfather of
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the forward passing like it was amazing. And I had
Gary Zimmerman who ended up being an Oregon where you
guys just just were he was ended up being a
Hall of Fame player. We had Jojo Townsell. We had
all these young players. That was a lot of fun.
We We had a great time, and the league was
legit football.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It was why why why did you go to the USFL?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Though? Because I could play right away and I was
gonna be drafted number one by the Bengals, and I
didn't This sounds a little weird, but I didn't know
anyone Cincinnati. You knew the people in LA. You know
what I mean. There's when you're young, you're like the
familiarity and uh, and playing like I didn't want to
sit and watch and I wanted to go play, and uh,
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sitting at you makes you talk like you. Did you
notice that? I don't know if I did.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I feel like I'm talking like you. So I think
there's some hybrid of conversation here where it's very weird.
We had we had talked to another player, peak quarterback
USC and he was drafting the top five same thing.
Went to Cincinnati and was like, I don't know what's
going on. Oh yeah, he never watched on TV. They
He was like, I don't know what happens in Cincinnati, right.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, it's like when you're a kid, there's all kind
of weird things are going through your head, and well,
things that do you think matter, don't matter. All of
a sudden, you're you know, you're getting paid to play
a game, Like if like I played football in high
school and now I'm getting paid to do it, it's weird.
And then everyone else that's paid for it, and then
it's like then you see the older guys who are like,
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this is my career, this is how I feed my family,
and like I'm going to kill you. You're like, oh,
that's a whole different thing. Like the NFL beats. It
runs people out and you if you are not careful
and you don't really love it and you're not willing
to kind of battle back. You've seen famous like high
draft picks come into the league and then three or
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four years they just disappear because they just it's not
their passion, it's they they're really good at it. They're amazing.
They're the best athletes in their town and they're county
and their state at college, best athletes anyone ever seen.
So you keep doing it and then finally the pro
game forces you to say, do I love this? And
a lot of times like I don't. And that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Did you realize in your first year with the USFL
that you probably weren't going to be there the next year.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, I believed it was a league that was going
to stick around. It was in now, and they might
have had to pair back, you know, there's some financial
things that would be careful. But it was done. It
was it was cooked, and then they wanted to go
to the fall and go up against the NFL and
into the ground. It was too bad because the football
I played for the La Express was better than the
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football that was in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that I
joined the next year, And so it's too bad. It
should be still here, should be played in the spring,
and they're still trying that. It's been thirty years later,
they're still trying to do what they had at the moment,
and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
When you go to Tampa, did you have expectation is
playing immediately? What was and do they redraft?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
How did you end up a stay when all of
us that you know, Herschel Walker and Reggie White and
Gary Zimmerman and all these guys, we all left undrafted
essentially because we went to the USFL. The league didn't
want to allow that, like, hey, wait a second, because
we all thought let's go to the USFL. Let's play
some ball and if something happens, we'll come back as
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free agents and we'll pick a team. And the league's like,
we're and so about a year in they said they
made a deal with the Players Association, which I'm still
pissed out about the Players Association allowing that, because you
think they would protect us. But they had what they
called a supplemental draft, and that's when I was number
one to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
How did you feel about going to Tampa? Not like
I mean, there wasn't a lot of success there.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I I'm you know, I'm not somebody that's going to go, oh,
I can only play here or there. I need this
or that. I was like, let's go. It was hard.
There were some bad boys down there. James Wilder was
a running back. He's the toughest human being I ever met.
There were some good players down there. It was just
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a bad situation. It was you ever been. It's like
any organization when when you know there's no accountability and
all those there's this mitigation and point you're, oh, I
would have been great if for you, and you know,
and that feeds on itself and pretty soon everyone's was
springing the corner and coach oh terrible and everyone's and
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you can't get out of it. It's like you can't.
And then there's fight, you know, a fight in the
locker room. I remember the first time I went in
the locker room in Tampa at the halftime. I go
into halftime and you're waiting for like tips from the coach,
you know, like, and half the team's like smoking, and
I'm like, you can't. You can't smoke in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What is this? I never forgot that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Man, How did you negotiate the trade to San Francisco?
Then did you let them know you wanted to go?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So we were so bad that I played one full year.
We were so bad that we were going to have
the first draft choice again, and they got a new coach,
Ray Perkins. And Ray Perkins shows up and says to me,
see one thing, I want you to know. I hate
scramblers and I hate lefties. And I'm like that is
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bad and uh. And they had a number one choice,
so they took Vinie Ti Saverni and I was like, okay,
we got to get rid of him. So they treated
me the Saint Louis Cardinals. It was equally bad. And
I had made a relationship with the owner, Hugh colver
House Like no one talked to mister colver Osse, but
I saw him and he's like over in the corner.
I'm like, I'll go talk to him like you would.
And so we made a real and that relationship was
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one where you know, he said, Steve, I really love
your style. I love what you're doing, and I want
you to be my quarterback for life. I remember telling
me that. So then when Ray Perkins said, bro, you're
out I and you're traded to the Saint Louis Cardinals.
I called mister Culversse. I said, mister culvers you told
me I was a quarterback for life. And he goes, oh,
I know, Steve. You know he's had a Southern draw.
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You know I love you and I bet the new
coach and I don't know. And I go, well, you
can't send me this like you gotta let me go
somewhere I can thrive. He goes, oh, let me think
about it, and he goes he calls me back. He says,
I cancel that trade, and now you have a week.
I want you to find a place that you like that?
Who would That's unheard of in sports? Right, And and
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Ray Perkins was pissed, and he was like like because
he had they had a number of draft toy they
got a number on Draft Show, whatever they got from him,
and he was dumping He couldn't wait to dump me around.
So then they nixed that. And I that's when Bill
Wats called and said that Joe Montana's had his second
back surgery. I think you're amazing. I was like, that's amazing, great,
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and uh, that's how that happened. How was the Joe
Montana situ? Come on, you want to spend up five minute?
It was awkward. It was always awkward and Joe, if
Joe walked in right now, he'd we will be like hey,
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because we didn't. I would tell you that we never fought,
We never had a crossword, never supported each other in
the ways that we had. The job was the job, right,
played golf together, laughed with Steve Bono and all the
guy like. But it was always awkward because in his mind,
I was brought in to take his job, and in
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my mind, I was brought in because he was hurt
and I didn't want to sit and watch. I wouldn't
have if he was gonna go be MVP when Super Bowls,
I'd be like, I love watching him, but I'm gonna
go play somewhere. So the whole thing was just and
Bill Walsh was the one was like, oh, it'll work out,
you know, it'll be fine, And we both hated him
for it, but loved him because we and I would
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say this at the end of the day, it got.
It got the most out of both of us being together.
And I watched him play football that is like most
amazing football I've ever seen, and then I hopefully played
football that it was the most. It was the best
I could ever be, you know. And so in that
way it was it sucked and it was great and
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it was awkward. And they eighteen someone did a commercial
recently that we did with Bo Jackson comeing to Bo's
house for the Super for the big game and and uh,
I'm there, and and Joe walks in and Bo says, oh, Joe,
good good, that's great. You came, Steve, It's okay, right,
And then I.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Said I'm okay, of course, And then there's this awkward
interchange where we try to high five and miss and
then finally we do this kind of claw shake, you know,
and it's like awkward.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then it's like perfectly, you know, exemplified what what the
relationship was like.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Did you feel like you were a bit ahead of
your time in the NFL then because you ran.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
A thousand percent, I was well, I got kicked out
of Tampa because I was weird and my game was
not the game. I believe that my game was the
best game you could have when you have lots of options,
you don't have to sit there and wait. I always
thought that Tom Brady and Peyton Manny and Dan Marino
were like super gods because they had to just stand
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there and they were amazing. That's like I would never
want to do that job. But now, twenty years later,
because of rule changes, the game is so wide open
you have to run. All the first round draft choices
for quarterbacks are all guys that can move around and run,
and so the game strangely is my game. It's like
the game that I like. I watch it, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh, the love, the love is there, let me please
let me in, you know, And I keep working out
and trying to throw in the backyard just in case
like you never know, like if thirty two guys got sick.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Maybe I throw a couple. Because he said in that look,
think about the game today, and Tom Brady said this,
So it makes it true to me that the game
today is uh, the middle of the field is unpatrolled
where it used to be like a death zone, like
there's there's people run around free. The flats are always open.
Just if you need a completion, you just take it
and you no one can hit you. Like it's a dream.
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It's a quarterbacks dream. Oh by the way, you get
paid sixty million dollars a year. It's like a dream.
Like you know. Anyway, go on, I'm not I'm not bitter.
It's not like it's not it's not a get off
my lawn kind of thing. I know you're thinking, hey,
oh man, get off my lawn. No, it's more of
an appreciation for the changes that have come to me
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that make me that resonate and make me want to
play again.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Who did you fear on the other side of the line.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I always say, the unblocked guy, you know what I mean,
Like that's where you could really get hurt. So it's
like I don't care if it's you, guys, and.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
What was that up to you guys? But was it
up to you define who was going to be the
unblock guy?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It was part of partly me, and part was just
mistakes and you get hit from you know, and and
and that. Back then, the job was to put you
out of the game. That was the job. And people
remember the bounty and all this stuff like there's that
was very common. And so you had the best athletes
in the world, not the smartest, but the best athletes
in the world paid lots of money to come kill you.
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And so I feared anyone that wasn't blocked. But if
you want to say who I didn't want to see,
it was REGGI White. And did you know you were
old enough to remember, you know, as football card said
Reggie White, Tennessee six six three twenty. And you guys
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have to know that when you're a rookie, you you list,
they give you a piece of paper card companies and
you say who you are, Steve Young b Yu six
two ten so forever more. If you look on the
card and it's going to say six to two ten,
because I wrote it down. Now, am I six two
might be slightly aspirational. But you know what I mean, Like,
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you write down what you feel you are, right, And
if I just thought about Reggie White, he wrote down
six six, three twenty. If you write down three twenty,
you're four hundred, you know you are. If you were
three twenty, you'd write down to eighty, right, do you
understand that? Probably? So Reggie was the biggest, most amazing
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athlete that ever lived. I never I didn't meet Biblical
you know, stone throwing gargantuan you know what I mean.
I didn't I didn't meet you know, but Reggie White
was if he walked in today, you'd be like, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
But he was a pastor. I wasn't full of love.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So one of the great athletes in the world because
he would he was loud, so when he played, he
would scream. So they're like, rah, you know what I mean,
Like you would so you could hear him. So you
like you drop back to pass and you're like, here's this.
We put three guys on him, like Reggie the three guys.
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Then he'd throw them out of the way, you know,
and then you'd hear him coming. You're like God, You're
like everyone's screaming. So then all of a sudden, he's there, right,
All of a sudden, he's there, and he's he's on you, right.
And the most amazing thing is he would grab me.
He would turn over and fall backwards and let me
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fall on top of him, and then he would hold
on and there was like this awkward moments, like you know,
and he'd be like, Steve, how you doing. I'm like,
not so good, Reggie, not so good. You put your
dad's here because my dad helped him find my dadil
worry fell when we went to the rookie and when
we were seniors in college, we went to the All
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Star Game together and we got to be friends. So
Reggie would play and he would want to catch up.
So he would like, ah, so like intense and I
got he'd have you and then he'd like, hey, so, uh,
you know, how's everything going? You know? I'm like are
you married? You know? Like like and I'm like, Reggie,
freaking let's just talk after right, talk later, Like let's don't.
(32:11):
I don't want to meet like this anymore. This is
not appropriate, you know. And that's Reggie. Reggie is the
greatest athlete because he was in a You appreciate this Bobby.
He was an emotional athlete. He could be an incredible
competitor and he could be an incredible friend like that.
That's hard to do. Most of the friends that I
played against went the other way. It was worse right,
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they were I know you you know, they just don't
know how to handle the the athleticism. In the emotional
athleticism I let. Reggie was amazing. He was a he
was a pastor. He took We'd go to the Pro
Bowl in Hawaii and he would have a revival and
everyone was invited, and so you go down and then
he was like, who want to be baptized? And the
guys were quite well, and then they'd go out to
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the ocean. He baptize all these Pro Bowls. Like that's Reggie, man,
that's Reggie Steve.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Mid nineties, what was the team that you hated the most?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, it was a love hate because the Dallas Cowboys
had become very quickly in the early nineties like amazing,
like there was no weakness. They were and they've unfortunately
for them, they've never seen close to that since.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But he's a massive Cowboys fan, by the way, and.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Talk about underachievement to talent for thirty years. But that team,
that team was some bad boys, and they're doing a
Netflix thing on it right now that it's gonna come out.
I'm actually in an interviewing for it. That's why I
have to go anyway, The Cowboys were we were the best,
and they were the best, and that's how I always
felt like that's where you found out who you were.
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So in that way, I remember when true I remember
the Cowboys coming to play the Candlestick and as you know,
you warm up at the fifty and you go opposite
ways so you see each other, and I'm like, Troy, Man,
thanks for coming. You know, I'm on this quest to
see how good I could get, and the only way
I can see how good I could be is to
play the best. And you guys are the best, so
this is gonna be amazing. I almost hugged them because
I was in this this space where I just I
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wanted to find out, like I wanted to like, how
good could I be? And I remember Troy's like freaking weirdo.
But there was that, but that was the there was
the hatred of it because they were so good that
they got in the way, like super Bowls were like
the trophy is like oh, and then it went there.
You know, it was like one way or another, And
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that was super painful. I mean ninety two championship game
against the Cowboys that we got beat. I still throw
up in my mouth when I think about that game
like that, Like that's the people say to me, what's
the most memorable? My most memorable thing is losing that game.
Like you'd think it would be all the good stuff,
it was like, those were painful times.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I have final three questions. Let's go with which Super
Bowl was the sweetest?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, the one I started in was number one for sure,
because I felt like I dragged myself there over the
many years and the awkwardness and this strangeness, and there
was a the goal for nineteen ninety one broke out
in the Middle East and and uh it was October
and I was replacing Joe and it was it was
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it was awkward for the whole Bay area, right. It
was just odd and different and strange and everyone was struggling.
And the headline was the goal was above the fold
in the San Francis Carnal. You can go look at
them at microfiche. Uh. The goal for it's Steve Young's
fault because it was funny they thought would be funny,
like it was the funny thing, except that was it
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was me, Like it wasn't funny to me. Uh And
so yeah, there was. There were great times and hard
times and it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Did you have time after you finished playing football where
you had to kind of re discover who you were
because you had played you had been football your whole life?
Or were you pretty balance? I mean what you got?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What a lot of green? I was? I mean I
was you were totally imbalanced because you had to give
pour yourself into something to be great or good or great,
and you had to do it every day all day,
like that's all you did. And that way balance is
really hard to find. And I think that retiring was
like amazing in some ways because you could now recognize
(36:24):
that there's like wonderful things in your life that you
didn't they couldn't find a way in before.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And did I struggle at all?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Or h I think I think anyone who has a
dream that actually comes true and they can actually perform,
like you know, your but jobs that quit at young ages,
like you know, even acting, I think sometimes you can
go long time, but most of the times you get
you get a star goes and then it falls and
you know, sports is that way. You can be great
at something worldwide in a way like one of the greatest,
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and then that's it. There's a day it just stops
and the next day you wake up and you're like, wow, Okay,
that was amazing. I kind of want to keep doing that.
But now it's over. And so the great thing I'm good,
the thing I'm best at, maybe I'll be the best
at that. My whole life ever is gone and I'm
actually looking forward and I'm not even good at anything else.
(37:20):
And so it said, there's a death. I always tell
people when they're transitioning, it's a death, like treat it
that way, like it it died, and now you got
to warn it and now you have to go through
the pain of it all and all the twelve steps
and come out and then say, okay, then what's the future.
I'm going to go try to be great at something
else and I'm just gonna And my hero, Roger Shaubek,
(37:43):
I was asking for advice and you go, I'm retiring.
What should I do? He goes, run, I go run,
where you go just I don't know, Just run away
because the game will never leave you. They'll always want
to ask you questions about it. Don't worry about it,
but you need to run away from it because all
all you'll do is try to go back because it's
such an allure, because it was the time that you
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were the best. And it's been great advice because despite
the fact that my kids don't care, and the only
thing they care about is I'm number top five Bobby Bones,
Like literally, they talk about it all the time. It's
been a great advice because it is a death and
I and I treat it that way, like it died
and it was amazing and now I got a different life.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
What's your favorite picture in your house that has nothing
to do with sports?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
There's nothing. If you walked in my home, you would
not know that it was my home. I didn't want
to do that to the kids. They had enough problems
at school and especially with my boys. You know, just
Steve young skid, what do you do? You throw the
ball and like, no, I hate football, you know, yeah,
I like music, theater, you know, like so in our home,
nothing like that we have. I guess we don't have
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a ton of art. We have a lot of transitional art,
I'll call it. So like for Valentine's Day or Thanksgiving,
she draws a huge tree and then everyone has to
write what they're thankful for and put it on the tree.
So it's like that's the main thing in the house.
And then there's the during Halloween there's all the pictures
from all the years of Halloween. They go up and
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then come down. So a lot of transitional art in
our house. Uh. Look, I you know, there's there's a
little a small picture of a great picture of Jesus
that I love. That's like very to me, is very honest.
That is up on the on the on the we
love the fireplace. That's just small but just kind of
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reminder that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
And our final experiment, mount rushmore foreheads musically, who do
you put on that all time?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna go with like for me.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Only for you, It's only for you, it's your personal
mountain rush for me.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right all right? Strangely algreen, Uh can I have earth
wind fire like the whole group? Yes? Okay, these are
like some of like from the beginning, I think, uh
uh huh you too, Like I just you know, I'm
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just thinking influence. Well you have run out of places
because Bruce Wringston has to be there as well. But
now I have to have a space for Chris Stapleton,
Like I just move everyone move over this. This guy
needs a space.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
A fifth heady.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
But but I think that I I just dude is
amazing and I just I one day I want to
meet him. I want to meet him somehow. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Thanks for the time. Really, you guys are the best
ye could have done.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Like what I I love this. I uh, Now you're
gonna have to come on my little podcast and we're
gonna talk about quarterbacking.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
How you do it in fourth grade when I was
left handed.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
No, once you start thinking about it, about the metaphor,
you'll be like, oh, I know how I.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I wanted wanted Yeah, the chair. I was gonna say
a quarterback intil like tenth grade, just to kind of no,
I know, receiver. And I know you're not even.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Talking funny about it's funny last week or like we're
setting this up, Okay, when do you want to do it?
And I'm like, oh, let's say this is Wednesday, let's
do it early. Early is great, okay, great, and then
all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's like, oh,
by the way, here's a picture of me high fiving
does Bryant and the game. Then here's the m v
P troop.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Not true, like out of no work.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I didn't say, hey, have you done anything great lately?
You had something?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
What happened? It's like, I did you play?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
By the way, Steve, I just want you to know
that I was m VP somebody already. Golf was it charity?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Softball was not charity. First of all, I'm a little insulted.
Second of all, sometimes I will fill in for rich Eisen,
who I can come you do this thing? Yeah? I
feel I do. I feel yeah, And so I'll do
his show when he's gone. And I was gonna do
it this week and I was not able to do it.
And so I saw that you were on and you
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were talking about playing at the golf tournament, and so
a message and said, hey, how did golf tournament go?
Because I have other friends that were playing, and you were.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Like, it's funny. I was just joking, and you got
your little defensive I'm very defensive right now.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And he's like, I did blah blah, and I was like,
oh cool, well what I was doing?
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Well, you're right, there was not a nowhere. You're right,
it was only.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Kind out of nowhere. Look at my trophy. I'm also
good at sports.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Was the belt right? Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yes, it was ale and just actually the second a
little like wow, yeah, you were just done and I'm
an amazing athlete. Now to conclude what it was? The
Major League Baseball All Star Game. Yeah, it is happening.
That's where I was amazing. I know, no, no, I know.
You said it was like a church league, charity church
league with fourteen year old.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Do you see this? I was just kid there it was.
I just was having fun.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Very insulted, you're amasy, got to tease.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's fun.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Until we meet again, my friend.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Bobby awesome, Steve, the best, the best, the best. Maybe
we'll play the A, T and T one day.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, signed this old card for me. Hold on, let
me have a sharpy this that'd be fun. Yeah, record
him because these are my favorite cards because Steve kept
a shirt on for Joyce.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Joyce got Joyce, Joy's got everything.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Thank you, Joyce, Thank you, joy joy Joy thank you joy.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I said it funny.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I'm want to.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Know him about my previous life. She just know this life.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a he was a
punter for many years.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
The best.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Here, Bobby, I'm the greatest. Steve Young. Oh they're great.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh they're great. It's both ways, the greatest.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You're a hero.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
That's cool, all right, Steve Young, Thank you, Steve. Thank
you for having us and that's amazing. Thank you.
This is a podcast called twenty five Whist.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
He was talking to Fall and they are whizz So yeah,
it's too bad, but what did you expect.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five Whist.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Souls Twyne, what's up? Everybody? Welcome to the show where
this one's gonna be cool because it's us with Steve
Young for an hour NFL Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Super nice guy. I met him, I guess a year
and a half maybe more than that now, met him
on a golf course and was nervous to go talk
to him and then want to talk to him and
he was like, oh, listen to your show and I
was like, yo, whatever, and then he like quoted back
a couple of segments and I was like, dang, that's crazy.
Then I was talking about him on the show one
day a year later as like one of the top
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five coolest people I've ever met. He happened to be listening.
He texted me and I was like, how'd you get
my number? And he was like, I called the golf
course and I was like that's cool. So then we
went to Oregon, and since we were a west already,
I was like, Hey, we're going to be out there.
Will you be around and he said, yeah, come on.
So we went to his office and he was in
the middle of working with us, and then he was
(01:10):
going to do like a maybe like a Dallas Cowboys
documentary on the championships they won. But we had We
flew into Polo Alto and we're with him for an hour.
Longer than that. He signed my football card. It was
a whole thing. It was super awesome. So we're just
going to play the interview as is because it's it's
an hour, right guys, close close, yeah, close to an hour.
(01:31):
So here he is, I'll shut up. Here is one
of the greats of all time left handed. I say
that because him and Boomerasison were the only two left
handed quarterback, because I would ever watch and be like, dang,
that's why I'm a quarterback. But then I wasn't after
like fourth grade. All right, here he is Steve Young. First,
I'd like to explain how I ended up here. I
was playing a golf tournament I was invited to. It
(01:51):
was it was super cool.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I was h end but high end golf, but I
was excited to just be invited elite golf tournament and me.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And so there's like seven people on a green and
I see somebody holding court and all the people are
like laughing, ha ha haa. This guy's holding court and
there's like a little crease and I see it's Steve
Young in the crease and everybody is listening to every word,
every breath he's saying. And I'm like, I love Steve Young.
I'm left handed. When I was a kid, I would
watch you play and think this is the roots.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm leaning closer now, yeah, this is the root because
it's very rare.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I was a left handed quarterback rare, and I was like,
Steve Young, if he can do it, I realize that.
So I walk up and I get into the crowd
of people and they're all laughing. I don't know what
you're saying, but I'm like, everybody fades away, and I say, hello,
mister Steve Young. My name is Bobby. I just want
to say I'm a big fan. And then I started
to walk away and you said I know who you are,
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and my life changed.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, no, because strangely, my two girls are in high
school that were still at that point where like eighth
and tenth grade, so I was driving them everywhere, and
every morning I'm carpool and by Bones Joe and they
they love country music and I always loved it kind
of quietly, but then when my kids, I'm like, oh,
(03:10):
this is amazing, and so listen to you every morning,
and so I wanted. I went home and I.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Said, girls, guess who I met Bobby Bones? And then
it was and then I think you mentioned me somewhere
randomly on the show. Randomly we were driving and it's like,
my girls are like, he just said your name.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So it works in a strange circle. But finish the
story though, to really like people need to know this.
So it's an elite kind of golf invite to go
to the AT and T and Bobby was there and
it was all set to go, and it was like
you play Thursday and Friday and you make the cut
or not whatever. So it's Wednesday. This is when we
met on Wednesday, and like I go Thursday to kind
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of tell him. I told him I remember, you know
something I remembered the show. And he's gone like he
big time that I had to work. No no, no, no,
no no. The Grammy's called and it's like, oh, sorry,
elite people I'm out of here. I've never seen that
done by anybody who's ever been via the eighteen in
my life ever that you just show up and it's
(04:15):
like see you, and like even people who have been
like presidential campaign, but nobody says see you to the
aten T except for the great body see you.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So then what happens is we're talking about Like for me,
it was like the fight.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
He's trying to back, don't let him go. I mean,
I see Steve from your perspective, he did big time
the at and T PLA.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I thought, and I want to sid it to everybody
at A D and T and Pebble Beach and every
pebble and every beach. But what really had love you all?
He had to go work, so regardless, I'm on the air.
And the question was because I have a job much
like yours. Well, we've been able to meet a lot
of cool people, a lot of famous people, and that
doesn't always mix. Some famous people are cool, some aren't.
Some cool people are famous, some are and they're like,
(04:56):
who are like the coolest famous people you met? And
I had listed I loved County Crows, Adam Durret's cool.
I went through the list of my top five, and
you were my top five.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I couldn't believe that. My kids thought I honestly, they
don't know what I did before, and they think I'm
kind of like boring and like and when you said
my name is the top five, my kids like.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh, Dad, well that's very nice.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So Bobby, thank you for putting me on the pedestal
at home, I get.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And then I get a text him an unknown number,
and I'm like, oh, my stalker's back thinking, and it
was and it was Steve. And the first thing he
says is, I remember the bit I was talking about,
how did you get my number? I'm glad you did,
but that feels like you.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think you gave it to me that brief moment.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
No chance, because I would never afford I would never
have said I think you would want my number. There's
no chance. I would have been too insecure to even
offer my number.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well that's a really good point. When you said my
name top five, and I said, okay, I've got to
reach out to him, it's like anybody with I might
have gotten to Steve Johnathan out of Beach. I think
that's what I did.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Who I did, not big time. I love Steve John
out heroic to me, and that's how we're are here.
I do want to start though, because I have taken
a crash course and Forever Young, which is your I
appreciate that your charity, and there are a couple of
things that I would like to talk about. First of all,
I know your wife, Barb and the music component of it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, we did that. Yes, this weekend Monday, we opened
up our ninth one renowned children's hospital and a reno.
So it's a it's music. Would you explain music therapy?
Therapy is crazy, Like, I'm not a musician. I only
dream I would if you guys could. I wish I
could help the regime regime, so I wish I could
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do anything. If I could sing, I would give up everything.
I would give up all. But I love as everyone does,
they love music. My wife, when she was in college,
a friend of hers who gotten a terrible car accident,
terrible brain injury. She did the research, which is my
wife's way to kind of like and she figured out
that there's this thing called music music therapy. And she
went and played bon Jovi because I was her favorite band.
(07:08):
Like over like this, all the time in the in
the room, and she believed it's changed. It helped, and
no one else is like, you know whatever, that doesn't
make any sense. So then twenty years later, a dear
friend of ours that I grew up with, daughter who
was seventeen a musician and she was down in La
recording she was going to be a star. She passed
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away like out of like this, on a hike at
a girls camp. And so it was a year anniversary
of that tragedy that Barb's like, wait a second, we
need to honor her because she had done to the
children's She would got to the children's hospital nearby and
play for the kids. As a seventh year old, you
know like this, I want to help, I want to
do things. So we started Sophie's Place, the name of
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Sophie for music therapy, and at the time, in two
thousand and six, music therapy in hospitals was starting. They
used to have a heart and the music therapists would
go around a room to room and it's like, no,
we need a space. And so we went to the
hospital and said, look, we'll we'll build the space and
what's funded with the music therapists music therapy is crazy
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because music is the only thing that crosses over the
both sides of the brain. Language doesn't do that, and
so the music is ends up to be a scientific medicine,
like there's specific things that you can do in motion
for beating a drum or pain or because pain and
music travel the same places and so if there's music,
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it can't be as much pain. And so there's all that.
There's hundreds of prescriptions written every day by doctors for
the music therapists for specific things for medicine for the
healing of kids in Schildn's Hospital. So that's that's that,
and I wish I was a musician. We had Dan
Reynolds came and the Imagine Dragons, we had Chester Bennington
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take a park Lincoln Park before. We've had a number
of people come through and play for the kids, and
so I encourage it. Page idiots pick up Trulln's Hospital.
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So I used to be on the board of a
similar group called Musicians on Call and we would go
and especially with older like eighties and nineties who were
in the hospital, and it was there we would learn
songs from when they were young and it would be
the only time that you would see them light up
like there would be and because if they didn't remember
whatever they didn't remember, what they would remember is how
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they felt when that music was played when they were
a kid, and it was like to see it even briefly.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So it's not we know that music has that effect,
but I think I just want to make sure that
people understand that there's a science to the specific things
that music, like brain injuries. They can't get kids to
move their arms, but if they can beat a drum
for some reason, so they beat a drum and they
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use that as they beat the drum to reteach them
how to eat. And so there's just music has this
strange power over and Chester Bennington's the one that told me.
He says they haven't figured out where where uh music
starts in the brain. And he says that's because that's
where God sits and no one will actually find it.
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So I said, I remember chester Ton.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I went and looked up the charity on the there's
a website and goes, you have a charity is legit?
You guys got one hundred percent. I was worried. Honestly,
I was like, oh, man, do I ever want to
go look at this and I wait, could be scaled,
and I will say it with full authority. It is
not all the stars.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That was yeah, so uh charity navigator, we're one of
the ones. Thank goodness. No, we're we're a little we're
a little group. We're not big. We we peck away
every year. We trade in all this memorabilia for our
golf tournaments to raise the money. And uh, we just
we find like minded people and do our little our
(11:00):
garden in our little corner of the world and try
to do something good.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Let's talk sports a little bit. Oh, I want to
show you because this to me. Let me sit in
my pocket.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You show me your MVP trophy from last week.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know I couldn't. I couldn't look my pocket as
a belt. It was a really nice belt. I couldn't
travel with it. But ipen to open these. But these
are cards from like nineteen ninety These are pro Line.
These are the weirdest.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, these.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Are the weirdest cards I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
These are the ones because.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Some guys have that don't have their shirt on. I
wanted to roll through some of these cards. Your card
actually wasn't that weird. I put this in. Do you
remember this? Do you remember this picture?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I do, But that's amazing that there's someone with those.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It's odd. So what I wanted to do was roll
through some of these cards that I have not opened yet.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
This is magic trick.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I wish that'd be cool. You can't open it here?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Do want me to do it?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, I don't want to rip it. Here we go.
And if I pull up a player that you remember, yeah,
and if you have a story about that player.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I would like to hear it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, but there's a lot of stories I can't tell.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well, then don't tell those or tell that will pay
the micro right you'll Okay, let's start with Bobby. He
already k know who it was, Bobby Brister.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So some people like, it's what's fun the league? The
NFL is full of just characters right from everywhere. And
if I remember, Bobby was like not Cajun like, uh,
Bobby a Bear, because Bobby a Bear played for the Saints.
When you met Bobby Aber, he's like he would speak English,
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but Cajun English. And I'd be like, hey, bro, I
don't know you do I don't know and so then
I thought, Okay, you're in the Superdome and seventy thousand,
eighty thousand people are screaming, and you're in the huddle,
and Bobby Aber's gone to play. I'd be like, bro
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because this every else speak caging. No, no, they don't.
So there's all these good and Bubby Brister is that
kind of a character. He's My memory is that he
was from the South, and uh, he was a country like.
I can see Bubby growing up in a place where
you know, all the songs are with the dirt road
and the fish and uh, you know, and you know
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all the great lyrics. I'm just screwing up right now.
But uh, and that's what Bubby's a Bubby is a
country dude.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Do you recognize that guy? This would be a guy
Pierce Hold. Do you play with it?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
The pier hold. That's the most serious thing I've ever
seen a Pierce Hold. Oh my gosh. Look he's looking
up in the distance like weird like look of George
Washington cross into Delaware. Yes, you're looking for something really important.
He never he never found anything important. I can promise
you that here's a good dude. But that's the other
thing about guys in the NFL is that these good
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dudes that are like really kind hearted. Pierce is a
kind hearted guy, very soft spoken, but was like massive,
Like if you walked in the room, you're like, hey,
whoa stay there? And he was so big and strong,
and then you go play and you're like, holy crap.
There is like two sides to people. Are there two
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sides to you? Do you have a side that if
it's time to go, like turn it like it's time I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
On the quarterback and podcast now, thanks for asking, Steve.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, no, but is it because Pierce had two sides?
He was most of the time kind, peaceful, and then
you go play, You're like that dude is different.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I think and you probably have a version of this
as well. For me, I'm on all the time if
I am performing on stage, doing a radio show or
a TV show. But when I'm not on, I'm off,
meaning I'm very quiet. I'm a wallflower. I don't have
much to say because all I do is say and
I know you have opinions.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Otherwise otherwise you could be you all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I would have no no energy, no.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Juice, no, it was just it would be I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, so I would say that would be like off
and or on.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I mean no, I'm kind of mean, you're always all
the time. No, I'm on. I mean, well, when Bobby's talking,
because when we're on Steve he's always talking, I know,
so he just let him talk. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Here, and you don't have to comment on this guy.
But see he has no shirt on in this picture.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh yeah, look at that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
These are like little bellies. Yeah, they're like glamour shots.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Who is that? Oh? Greg Town's okay, how about you're
a coach. Here there's another George Washington crossing the Delaware.
That's he's the he's the Cajun coach, right, Jim Mora. Yeah,
Saints playoffs? You know that's right? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, let's do one more? Did you have another one atdie?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
See Matt Millan in there also? Wait Matt Millon. Ye,
good friend of mine played for the Raiders for a
long time, joined the forty nine ers, and uh, he
would have us. Partner was we were roommates. So we
hung together and Matt would invite us because we're single,
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for dinner for the family and he'd say, look six
fifteen and so. But don't don't come later early, just
be there six fifteen. So we would kind of wait
around the corner until six fifteen because we didn't want
to mess up. So we pulled in and then he'd
open the door and he'd be in his underwear and
he'd be like, yeah, come in, and the kids would
be all around the table and we go in and
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eat eight and he's like eat, you know, and so
we would eat and then he would like we'd finish.
He's like, okay, now leave, so we would leave and
it was the greatest It was the greatest invite you
could ever have to come to somebody's house because you
don't have to say anything. You just got to be
on time. You don't look at the underwear, and just
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go in and eat and eat and leave, like literally
encouraged to leave as fast as you can. And we'd
be full. Pat would make tremendous food and we'd walk
out like it's amazing, Like this is the greatest thing ever.
And the first time I ever met Matt Mellon, he
was playing for the Raiders linebacker and I was a
rookie and I was in the league, like you know,
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and I'm playing the Raiders and and I'm you know,
you can imagine like you break the huddle and you're
like and Matt Mellon's like alert alert alert, Mormon in
the backfield, Moreman in the backfield, alert alert, look around?
What does he talk about? I I that threw me
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for a long time and that and I have laughed
about that forever. But he was the kind of guy
that would do stupid stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
When you when you leave BYU and you go to
the USFL, you put a year there? What was that even?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Like? Yeah, so it was amazing. It was like the
NFL has been around forever, this upstart league. Young most
of us were twenty one, twenty two years old. We
were living in la We were being coached by John
Hadl who was famous kind of a quarterback back in
the day. And Sid Gilman, one of the he was
old at that time, but he was the godfather of
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the forward passing like it was amazing. And I had
Gary Zimmerman who ended up being an Oregon where you
guys just just were he was ended up being a
Hall of Fame player. We had Jojo Townsell. We had
all these young players. That was a lot of fun.
We We had a great time, and the league was
legit football.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It was why why why did you go to the USFL?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Though? Because I could play right away and I was
gonna be drafted number one by the Bengals, and I
didn't This sounds a little weird, but I didn't know
anyone Cincinnati. You knew the people in LA. You know
what I mean. There's when you're young, you're like the
familiarity and uh, and playing like I didn't want to
sit and watch and I wanted to go play, and uh,
(18:47):
sitting at you makes you talk like you. Did you
notice that? I don't know if I did.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I feel like I'm talking like you. So I think
there's some hybrid of conversation here where it's very weird.
We had we had talked to another player, peak quarterback
USC and he was drafting the top five same thing.
Went to Cincinnati and was like, I don't know what's
going on. Oh yeah, he never watched on TV. They
He was like, I don't know what happens in Cincinnati, right.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, it's like when you're a kid, there's all kind
of weird things are going through your head, and well,
things that do you think matter, don't matter. All of
a sudden, you're you know, you're getting paid to play
a game, Like if like I played football in high
school and now I'm getting paid to do it, it's weird.
And then everyone else that's paid for it, and then
it's like then you see the older guys who are like,
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this is my career, this is how I feed my family,
and like I'm going to kill you. You're like, oh,
that's a whole different thing. Like the NFL beats. It
runs people out and you if you are not careful
and you don't really love it and you're not willing
to kind of battle back. You've seen famous like high
draft picks come into the league and then three or
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four years they just disappear because they just it's not
their passion, it's they they're really good at it. They're amazing.
They're the best athletes in their town and they're county
and their state at college, best athletes anyone ever seen.
So you keep doing it and then finally the pro
game forces you to say, do I love this? And
a lot of times like I don't. And that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Did you realize in your first year with the USFL
that you probably weren't going to be there the next year.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, I believed it was a league that was going
to stick around. It was in now, and they might
have had to pair back, you know, there's some financial
things that would be careful. But it was done. It
was it was cooked, and then they wanted to go
to the fall and go up against the NFL and
into the ground. It was too bad because the football
I played for the La Express was better than the
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football that was in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that I
joined the next year, And so it's too bad. It
should be still here, should be played in the spring,
and they're still trying that. It's been thirty years later,
they're still trying to do what they had at the moment,
and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
When you go to Tampa, did you have expectation is
playing immediately? What was and do they redraft?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
How did you end up a stay when all of
us that you know, Herschel Walker and Reggie White and
Gary Zimmerman and all these guys, we all left undrafted
essentially because we went to the USFL. The league didn't
want to allow that, like, hey, wait a second, because
we all thought let's go to the USFL. Let's play
some ball and if something happens, we'll come back as
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free agents and we'll pick a team. And the league's like,
we're and so about a year in they said they
made a deal with the Players Association, which I'm still
pissed out about the Players Association allowing that, because you
think they would protect us. But they had what they
called a supplemental draft, and that's when I was number
one to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
How did you feel about going to Tampa? Not like
I mean, there wasn't a lot of success there.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I I'm you know, I'm not somebody that's going to go, oh,
I can only play here or there. I need this
or that. I was like, let's go. It was hard.
There were some bad boys down there. James Wilder was
a running back. He's the toughest human being I ever met.
There were some good players down there. It was just
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a bad situation. It was you ever been. It's like
any organization when when you know there's no accountability and
all those there's this mitigation and point you're, oh, I
would have been great if for you, and you know,
and that feeds on itself and pretty soon everyone's was
springing the corner and coach oh terrible and everyone's and
(22:31):
you can't get out of it. It's like you can't.
And then there's fight, you know, a fight in the
locker room. I remember the first time I went in
the locker room in Tampa at the halftime. I go
into halftime and you're waiting for like tips from the coach,
you know, like, and half the team's like smoking, and
I'm like, you can't. You can't smoke in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What is this? I never forgot that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Man, How did you negotiate the trade to San Francisco?
Then did you let them know you wanted to go?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So we were so bad that I played one full year.
We were so bad that we were going to have
the first draft choice again, and they got a new coach,
Ray Perkins. And Ray Perkins shows up and says to me,
see one thing, I want you to know. I hate
scramblers and I hate lefties. And I'm like that is
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bad and uh. And they had a number one choice,
so they took Vinie Ti Saverni and I was like, okay,
we got to get rid of him. So they treated
me the Saint Louis Cardinals. It was equally bad. And
I had made a relationship with the owner, Hugh colver
House Like no one talked to mister colver Osse, but
I saw him and he's like over in the corner.
I'm like, I'll go talk to him like you would.
And so we made a real and that relationship was
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one where you know, he said, Steve, I really love
your style. I love what you're doing, and I want
you to be my quarterback for life. I remember telling
me that. So then when Ray Perkins said, bro, you're
out I and you're traded to the Saint Louis Cardinals.
I called mister Culversse. I said, mister culvers you told
me I was a quarterback for life. And he goes, oh,
I know, Steve. You know he's had a Southern draw.
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You know I love you and I bet the new
coach and I don't know. And I go, well, you
can't send me this like you gotta let me go
somewhere I can thrive. He goes, oh, let me think
about it, and he goes he calls me back. He says,
I cancel that trade, and now you have a week.
I want you to find a place that you like that?
Who would That's unheard of in sports? Right, And and
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Ray Perkins was pissed, and he was like like because
he had they had a number of draft toy they
got a number on Draft Show, whatever they got from him,
and he was dumping He couldn't wait to dump me around.
So then they nixed that. And I that's when Bill
Wats called and said that Joe Montana's had his second
back surgery. I think you're amazing. I was like, that's amazing, great,
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and uh, that's how that happened. How was the Joe
Montana situ? Come on, you want to spend up five minute?
It was awkward. It was always awkward and Joe, if
Joe walked in right now, he'd we will be like hey,
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because we didn't. I would tell you that we never fought,
We never had a crossword, never supported each other in
the ways that we had. The job was the job, right,
played golf together, laughed with Steve Bono and all the
guy like. But it was always awkward because in his mind,
I was brought in to take his job, and in
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my mind, I was brought in because he was hurt
and I didn't want to sit and watch. I wouldn't
have if he was gonna go be MVP when Super Bowls,
I'd be like, I love watching him, but I'm gonna
go play somewhere. So the whole thing was just and
Bill Walsh was the one was like, oh, it'll work out,
you know, it'll be fine, And we both hated him
for it, but loved him because we and I would
(25:58):
say this at the end of the day, it got.
It got the most out of both of us being together.
And I watched him play football that is like most
amazing football I've ever seen, and then I hopefully played
football that it was the most. It was the best
I could ever be, you know. And so in that
way it was it sucked and it was great and
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it was awkward. And they eighteen someone did a commercial
recently that we did with Bo Jackson comeing to Bo's
house for the Super for the big game and and uh,
I'm there, and and Joe walks in and Bo says, oh, Joe,
good good, that's great. You came, Steve, It's okay, right,
And then I.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Said I'm okay, of course, And then there's this awkward
interchange where we try to high five and miss and
then finally we do this kind of claw shake, you know,
and it's like awkward.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then it's like perfectly, you know, exemplified what what the
relationship was like.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Did you feel like you were a bit ahead of
your time in the NFL then because you ran.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
A thousand percent, I was well, I got kicked out
of Tampa because I was weird and my game was
not the game. I believe that my game was the
best game you could have when you have lots of options,
you don't have to sit there and wait. I always
thought that Tom Brady and Peyton Manny and Dan Marino
were like super gods because they had to just stand
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there and they were amazing. That's like I would never
want to do that job. But now, twenty years later,
because of rule changes, the game is so wide open
you have to run. All the first round draft choices
for quarterbacks are all guys that can move around and run,
and so the game strangely is my game. It's like
the game that I like. I watch it, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh, the love, the love is there, let me please
let me in, you know, And I keep working out
and trying to throw in the backyard just in case
like you never know, like if thirty two guys got sick.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Maybe I throw a couple. Because he said in that look,
think about the game today, and Tom Brady said this,
So it makes it true to me that the game
today is uh, the middle of the field is unpatrolled
where it used to be like a death zone, like
there's there's people run around free. The flats are always open.
Just if you need a completion, you just take it
and you no one can hit you. Like it's a dream.
(28:16):
It's a quarterbacks dream. Oh by the way, you get
paid sixty million dollars a year. It's like a dream.
Like you know. Anyway, go on, I'm not I'm not bitter.
It's not like it's not it's not a get off
my lawn kind of thing. I know you're thinking, hey,
oh man, get off my lawn. No, it's more of
an appreciation for the changes that have come to me
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that make me that resonate and make me want to
play again.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Who did you fear on the other side of the line.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I always say, the unblocked guy, you know what I mean,
Like that's where you could really get hurt. So it's
like I don't care if it's you, guys, and.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
What was that up to you guys? But was it
up to you define who was going to be the
unblock guy?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It was part of partly me, and part was just
mistakes and you get hit from you know, and and
and that. Back then, the job was to put you
out of the game. That was the job. And people
remember the bounty and all this stuff like there's that
was very common. And so you had the best athletes
in the world, not the smartest, but the best athletes
in the world paid lots of money to come kill you.
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And so I feared anyone that wasn't blocked. But if
you want to say who I didn't want to see,
it was REGGI White. And did you know you were
old enough to remember, you know, as football card said
Reggie White, Tennessee six six three twenty. And you guys
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have to know that when you're a rookie, you you list,
they give you a piece of paper card companies and
you say who you are, Steve Young b Yu six
two ten so forever more. If you look on the
card and it's going to say six to two ten,
because I wrote it down. Now, am I six two
might be slightly aspirational. But you know what I mean, Like,
(30:00):
you write down what you feel you are, right, And
if I just thought about Reggie White, he wrote down
six six, three twenty. If you write down three twenty,
you're four hundred, you know you are. If you were
three twenty, you'd write down to eighty, right, do you
understand that? Probably? So Reggie was the biggest, most amazing
(30:22):
athlete that ever lived. I never I didn't meet Biblical
you know, stone throwing gargantuan you know what I mean.
I didn't I didn't meet you know, but Reggie White
was if he walked in today, you'd be like, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
But he was a pastor. I wasn't full of love.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So one of the great athletes in the world because
he would he was loud, so when he played, he
would scream. So they're like, rah, you know what I mean,
Like you would so you could hear him. So you
like you drop back to pass and you're like, here's this.
We put three guys on him, like Reggie the three guys.
(31:05):
Then he'd throw them out of the way, you know,
and then you'd hear him coming. You're like God, You're
like everyone's screaming. So then all of a sudden, he's there, right,
All of a sudden, he's there, and he's he's on you, right.
And the most amazing thing is he would grab me.
He would turn over and fall backwards and let me
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fall on top of him, and then he would hold
on and there was like this awkward moments, like you know,
and he'd be like, Steve, how you doing. I'm like,
not so good, Reggie, not so good. You put your
dad's here because my dad helped him find my dadil
worry fell when we went to the rookie and when
we were seniors in college, we went to the All
(31:47):
Star Game together and we got to be friends. So
Reggie would play and he would want to catch up.
So he would like, ah, so like intense and I
got he'd have you and then he'd like, hey, so, uh,
you know, how's everything going? You know? I'm like are
you married? You know? Like like and I'm like, Reggie,
freaking let's just talk after right, talk later, Like let's don't.
(32:11):
I don't want to meet like this anymore. This is
not appropriate, you know. And that's Reggie. Reggie is the
greatest athlete because he was in a You appreciate this Bobby.
He was an emotional athlete. He could be an incredible
competitor and he could be an incredible friend like that.
That's hard to do. Most of the friends that I
played against went the other way. It was worse right,
(32:34):
they were I know you you know, they just don't
know how to handle the the athleticism. In the emotional
athleticism I let. Reggie was amazing. He was a he
was a pastor. He took We'd go to the Pro
Bowl in Hawaii and he would have a revival and
everyone was invited, and so you go down and then
he was like, who want to be baptized? And the
guys were quite well, and then they'd go out to
(32:56):
the ocean. He baptize all these Pro Bowls. Like that's Reggie, man,
that's Reggie Steve.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Mid nineties, what was the team that you hated the most?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, it was a love hate because the Dallas Cowboys
had become very quickly in the early nineties like amazing,
like there was no weakness. They were and they've unfortunately
for them, they've never seen close to that since.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But he's a massive Cowboys fan, by the way, and.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Talk about underachievement to talent for thirty years. But that team,
that team was some bad boys, and they're doing a
Netflix thing on it right now that it's gonna come out.
I'm actually in an interviewing for it. That's why I
have to go anyway, The Cowboys were we were the best,
and they were the best, and that's how I always
felt like that's where you found out who you were.
(33:50):
So in that way, I remember when true I remember
the Cowboys coming to play the Candlestick and as you know,
you warm up at the fifty and you go opposite
ways so you see each other, and I'm like, Troy, Man,
thanks for coming. You know, I'm on this quest to
see how good I could get, and the only way
I can see how good I could be is to
play the best. And you guys are the best, so
this is gonna be amazing. I almost hugged them because
I was in this this space where I just I
(34:11):
wanted to find out, like I wanted to like, how
good could I be? And I remember Troy's like freaking weirdo.
But there was that, but that was the there was
the hatred of it because they were so good that
they got in the way, like super Bowls were like
the trophy is like oh, and then it went there.
You know, it was like one way or another, And
(34:33):
that was super painful. I mean ninety two championship game
against the Cowboys that we got beat. I still throw
up in my mouth when I think about that game
like that, Like that's the people say to me, what's
the most memorable? My most memorable thing is losing that game.
Like you'd think it would be all the good stuff,
it was like, those were painful times.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I have final three questions. Let's go with which Super
Bowl was the sweetest?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, the one I started in was number one for sure,
because I felt like I dragged myself there over the
many years and the awkwardness and this strangeness, and there
was a the goal for nineteen ninety one broke out
in the Middle East and and uh it was October
and I was replacing Joe and it was it was
(35:18):
it was awkward for the whole Bay area, right. It
was just odd and different and strange and everyone was struggling.
And the headline was the goal was above the fold
in the San Francis Carnal. You can go look at
them at microfiche. Uh. The goal for it's Steve Young's
fault because it was funny they thought would be funny,
like it was the funny thing, except that was it
(35:39):
was me, Like it wasn't funny to me. Uh And
so yeah, there was. There were great times and hard
times and it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Did you have time after you finished playing football where
you had to kind of re discover who you were
because you had played you had been football your whole life?
Or were you pretty balance? I mean what you got?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What a lot of green? I was? I mean I
was you were totally imbalanced because you had to give
pour yourself into something to be great or good or great,
and you had to do it every day all day,
like that's all you did. And that way balance is
really hard to find. And I think that retiring was
like amazing in some ways because you could now recognize
(36:24):
that there's like wonderful things in your life that you
didn't they couldn't find a way in before.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And did I struggle at all?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Or h I think I think anyone who has a
dream that actually comes true and they can actually perform,
like you know, your but jobs that quit at young ages,
like you know, even acting, I think sometimes you can
go long time, but most of the times you get
you get a star goes and then it falls and
you know, sports is that way. You can be great
at something worldwide in a way like one of the greatest,
(36:58):
and then that's it. There's a day it just stops
and the next day you wake up and you're like, wow, Okay,
that was amazing. I kind of want to keep doing that.
But now it's over. And so the great thing I'm good,
the thing I'm best at, maybe I'll be the best
at that. My whole life ever is gone and I'm
actually looking forward and I'm not even good at anything else.
(37:20):
And so it said, there's a death. I always tell
people when they're transitioning, it's a death, like treat it
that way, like it it died, and now you got
to warn it and now you have to go through
the pain of it all and all the twelve steps
and come out and then say, okay, then what's the future.
I'm going to go try to be great at something
else and I'm just gonna And my hero, Roger Shaubek,
(37:43):
I was asking for advice and you go, I'm retiring.
What should I do? He goes, run, I go run,
where you go just I don't know, Just run away
because the game will never leave you. They'll always want
to ask you questions about it. Don't worry about it,
but you need to run away from it because all
all you'll do is try to go back because it's
such an allure, because it was the time that you
(38:04):
were the best. And it's been great advice because despite
the fact that my kids don't care, and the only
thing they care about is I'm number top five Bobby Bones,
Like literally, they talk about it all the time. It's
been a great advice because it is a death and
I and I treat it that way, like it died
and it was amazing and now I got a different life.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
What's your favorite picture in your house that has nothing
to do with sports?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
There's nothing. If you walked in my home, you would
not know that it was my home. I didn't want
to do that to the kids. They had enough problems
at school and especially with my boys. You know, just
Steve young skid, what do you do? You throw the
ball and like, no, I hate football, you know, yeah,
I like music, theater, you know, like so in our home,
nothing like that we have. I guess we don't have
(38:56):
a ton of art. We have a lot of transitional art,
I'll call it. So like for Valentine's Day or Thanksgiving,
she draws a huge tree and then everyone has to
write what they're thankful for and put it on the tree.
So it's like that's the main thing in the house.
And then there's the during Halloween there's all the pictures
from all the years of Halloween. They go up and
(39:16):
then come down. So a lot of transitional art in
our house. Uh. Look, I you know, there's there's a
little a small picture of a great picture of Jesus
that I love. That's like very to me, is very honest.
That is up on the on the on the we
love the fireplace. That's just small but just kind of
(39:39):
reminder that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
And our final experiment, mount rushmore foreheads musically, who do
you put on that all time?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh my gosh, I'm just gonna go with like for me.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Only for you, It's only for you, it's your personal
mountain rush for me.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right all right? Strangely algreen, Uh can I have earth
wind fire like the whole group? Yes? Okay, these are
like some of like from the beginning, I think, uh
uh huh you too, Like I just you know, I'm
(40:22):
just thinking influence. Well you have run out of places
because Bruce Wringston has to be there as well. But
now I have to have a space for Chris Stapleton,
Like I just move everyone move over this. This guy
needs a space.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
A fifth heady.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
But but I think that I I just dude is
amazing and I just I one day I want to
meet him. I want to meet him somehow. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Thanks for the time. Really, you guys are the best
ye could have done.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Like what I I love this. I uh, Now you're
gonna have to come on my little podcast and we're
gonna talk about quarterbacking.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
How you do it in fourth grade when I was
left handed.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
No, once you start thinking about it, about the metaphor,
you'll be like, oh, I know how I.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I wanted wanted Yeah, the chair. I was gonna say
a quarterback intil like tenth grade, just to kind of no,
I know, receiver. And I know you're not even.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Talking funny about it's funny last week or like we're
setting this up, Okay, when do you want to do it?
And I'm like, oh, let's say this is Wednesday, let's
do it early. Early is great, okay, great, and then
all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's like, oh,
by the way, here's a picture of me high fiving
does Bryant and the game. Then here's the m v
P troop.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Not true, like out of no work.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I didn't say, hey, have you done anything great lately?
You had something?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
What happened? It's like, I did you play?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
By the way, Steve, I just want you to know
that I was m VP somebody already. Golf was it charity?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Softball was not charity. First of all, I'm a little insulted.
Second of all, sometimes I will fill in for rich Eisen,
who I can come you do this thing? Yeah? I
feel I do. I feel yeah, And so I'll do
his show when he's gone. And I was gonna do
it this week and I was not able to do it.
And so I saw that you were on and you
(42:05):
were talking about playing at the golf tournament, and so
a message and said, hey, how did golf tournament go?
Because I have other friends that were playing, and you were.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Like, it's funny. I was just joking, and you got
your little defensive I'm very defensive right now.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And he's like, I did blah blah, and I was like,
oh cool, well what I was doing?
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Well, you're right, there was not a nowhere. You're right,
it was only.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Kind out of nowhere. Look at my trophy. I'm also
good at sports.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Was the belt right? Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yes, it was ale and just actually the second a
little like wow, yeah, you were just done and I'm
an amazing athlete. Now to conclude what it was? The
Major League Baseball All Star Game. Yeah, it is happening.
That's where I was amazing. I know, no, no, I know.
You said it was like a church league, charity church
league with fourteen year old.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Do you see this? I was just kid there it was.
I just was having fun.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Very insulted, you're amasy, got to tease.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's fun.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Until we meet again, my friend.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Bobby awesome, Steve, the best, the best, the best. Maybe
we'll play the A, T and T one day.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, signed this old card for me. Hold on, let
me have a sharpy this that'd be fun. Yeah, record
him because these are my favorite cards because Steve kept
a shirt on for Joyce.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Joyce got Joyce, Joy's got everything.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Thank you, Joyce, Thank you, joy joy Joy thank you joy.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I said it funny.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I'm want to.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Know him about my previous life. She just know this life.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a he was a
punter for many years.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
The best.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Here, Bobby, I'm the greatest. Steve Young. Oh they're great.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh they're great. It's both ways, the greatest.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You're a hero.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
That's cool, all right, Steve Young, Thank you, Steve. Thank
you for having us and that's amazing. Thank you.
Host
Bobby Bones
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