November 22, 2023 • 63 mins
Draymond Green’s five-game suspension after his scuffle with Rudy Gobert has the Golden State Warriors in a tailspin. Can they recover from their rough start to the season?
DiDi offers her take on the drama surrounding the LSU Women’s Hoop team and the suspension of All-American, Angel Reese.
Kevin Durant is dealing with a bit of Déjà vu in his first year in Phoenix. The squad discusses if Kevin Durant has enough gas in the tank to carry this Suns team while his other two superstar teammates recover from injuries.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of the three
on three pod, where three hosts give you three unique
perspectives on three of the hottest topics in the basketball world.
And this is a special day because Tarika's in the house.
What's good girl? What's up? Baby? What up?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's going on? Y'all?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Nothing must is living bright, trying to be like you
and then hold up, we got DDI.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's a party.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's a party because literally we have never had this
happen before on the show where we have all three
of the main ingredients for this podcast. I just want
to say, and it's so fitting right because it's a
Thanksgiving holiday weekend or week coming up that we finally
have each other. Yeah to look at two but all
(01:00):
three of us. So I'm amotional. We bring it out.
The singing. We bring it out the singing. Eight a m.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
In the morning, Okay, one at night?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Am right here? Right, You're right, I'm always down to saying,
always down the.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Sing I just want to say, though, like your all
of y'all energies is just so infectious and really inspiring,
so that I can't say enough about how excited I
am to get this episode kicked off because we're gonna
(01:40):
have a whole lot of fun. And then I feel
like and one of those topics is gonna get get
a little spicy, Get a little spicy that y'all, black
spice ain't hurting us, but we bring up we want
the spice might be a little red hot, look a
little tabascar lachilula. Yep, you know, oh man Ato. Going
(02:07):
back to the Thanksgiving theme though, like DEDI, how are
you handling the holidays in Australia because I know that's
got to be a huge, huge adjustment for you.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Honestly, is it though?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
You guys? Because in college, you know, we ain't never
celebrated Thanksgiving, Like we didn't really get to go home.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We were always on like a trip.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Like my freshman year was Bahamas, sophomore year it was Vegas.
Junior year, I can't remember, but like we're always somewhere,
so I'm always I've been used to missing Thanksgivings. Now
the difference this year is all be missing Christmas. That's
gonna change it up a little bit. But I'm used
to missing Thanksgivings, which is super unfortunate. But this year,
(02:46):
like there we're doing like a huge friends giving thing,
Like it's not really huge out here, but I'm forcing
my team like, Okay, bring your food, pot luck.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We're gonna do it because I need to feel like home.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I that makes a lot of sense. And I think
you just made me feel like I played the wrong
sport in college because I played a spring sport. So
in my mind, I'm like, I wasn't in Vegas and
Bahamas and stuff, like I really get the wrong sport. Okay,
Like good holidays? Were we missing playing softball? It was
(03:18):
just we missed, yes, but we didn't missed no good holiday.
He's like when I missed Eastern God on my heart,
Like what we doing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
It's my first year, my first Thanksgiving missing, my first
Thanksgiving missing. I literally sat in the Bahamas and I
remember getting these watery I'm so sorry. I'm so grateful
for my food bimony because that's where I was staying,
but I got these watery mac and cheese and I
just sat there and I burst out in tears.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And my coach is like, Kim.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Was like, what's wrong?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And I'm like, I was so upset, but.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I learned food.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's hilarious. That is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's priceless right there?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And me?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Me?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Who I am?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Y'all? Now I can miss Thanksgiving and I'm okay. I
can see little pictures of people in their little cookout
knees and the plates on their knees. I can see
it and not getting my feelings I used to be wishing.
I wish it tastes disgusting. I hope that makes your
summer time.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Have you text you tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Now?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm okay. Have you Thanksgiving? Super grateful for you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I'm screaming christ hate it's the I'm screaming, well Thanksgiving
be having people in the choco speaking of choke ho
well show calt, guys.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Transition for the wind there is.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, it's so crazy because last week we were
talking about Draymond Green and him talking jump to Anthony Edwards.
So this week, y'all, we're still talking about dray margray
and the Temperwhopes, but only this time we're talking about him,
him and Rudy Gobert. Jesus. Okay. So for anybody who's
(05:30):
been living under a rock for the last week and
has no idea what's been happening, it was the second
game of a back to back Draymond gree He got
ejected like less than one hundred seconds into the basketball
game the score was still practically like zero zero for
his part in an altercation with Clay Thompson and Jada McDaniels. Okay,
(05:54):
now Clay, him and him, McDaniels, go bear. They were
all fine. Twenty five thousand dollars. Draymond got suspended for
five games because he decided to put Rudy Gobert in
a choke hole. So basically this whole thing started because
Clay and McDaniels, they were going back and forth. Low
key Clay was grabbing his jersey. Jaden was like, I
(06:15):
don't like that. Yeah. It was really like Clay really
wasn't the wrong, to be honest, but Jada held his all.
He started tonguing back. They get into a scuffle. Rudy
go Beart comes out of nowhere, grabs Clay. Draymond, being
the enforcer teammate that he is, came to Thompson's a
put Gobert in a sleeper hole, and here we are,
(06:36):
but to be out of yaw. My biggest issue isn't
even Draymond. My biggest issue is the lack of accountability
for Rudy Gobert. What made Draymond go there in the
first place. See, this is the stuff that I'll be
talking about. People always want to talk about the reaction,
but they never want to discuss what made me react
(06:57):
like that in the first place. What made me get
disrespectful in the first place. And it was absolutely Rudy Gobert.
Like I get that the choke hold was excessive because
it wasn't like the thing was It wasn't like he
just did it and like just let it go like
(07:17):
he did it, and then you drug Rudy for like
a good fifteenth Okay, Yeah, that's wearing God a little
out of hair. Like you ain't have to drag Rudy
across the court in a choke hold like that could
get dangerous, that could get deadly. Like that's where you
went too far. But the initial I'm coming to Clay's aid,
(07:37):
like that's how I want my teammate to respond in
that same scenario. This is the same Draymond Green who
punched the hell out of Jordan Pool in a practice.
I need you to keep that same energy if you
if you're beating up the whole team. I need you
to keep that same energy with folks for the opposite
on the opposite side. So I wasn't necessarily man at Zan,
(07:59):
but it was in the postgame presser y'all where Rudy
Gobert was like, oh, this is clown behavior, and that's
where I was like, Okay, no, we're not gonna do that,
because you're the same person who is out here touching
on the microphones that shut down the NBA in twenty
twenty making a joke of COVID. So we're really not
(08:20):
about to talk about clown behavior, Rudy, because.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Probably Hoda hold up, holda Oda, a clown with no
clown though.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right, I'm just saying that why you ain't the person
to be leading that conversation about clown behavior, Rudy, because
you've got a history adorn some clown shit yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that's that's.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Where my issue comes from. I know Draymond got a
five game suspension because he's Draymond. He's got the history,
he's got all of that. But Chris, when you heard
about this, like, what was your initial reaction?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
My initial reaction is Draymond, you wild? Draymond's been trying
to Draymond has been waiting for this moment because clearly
has no respect for Ridygob. He's been waiting to get
him in a choke hold or do something to him.
And he saw him put his arm around Clay, and
I was like, all right, this is my chance, and boom,
he sees on that motherfucker like no other. All right,
sees on that shit and then he's he I think
(09:15):
he wanted to pass out, like honestly, that's how I felt.
Now I disagree though, because Rudy Gobert he did punch
his teammate last year. I think it was, you know,
during the playoffs. But Rudy Gobert is not an instigator.
He's not somebody who's an aggressor. So I feel like
he was trying to, you know, break up McDaniels and Thompson.
(09:35):
And how you get fined twenty five thousand for being
put in a choke hold. That's what That's what got
me wrong. You getting fined twenty five grand and you're
the one who got your ass putting a choke hold
on national TV.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So fine.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
No no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
came on no no, he was not to he could
stop it, we can stop it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Play and rewatched that clip at least some times. My
man Clay was like, these up under, Rudy Gobri, I
don't care what your intentions was. What Draymond saw was
you got my.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Teammates under these your arms.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I was about to come and check that ship.
And it was like for half a second, right, I
just like it too long.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Rudy didn't have like you see how Draymond had, right,
I don't think Rudy had that. Like you could see drama,
whole bicep coming out. I'm like, yo, can you let
him out?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
What that was?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Dangerous?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Clay was not like about to die, like everybody was
concerned for Rudy's life, Like Rudy was getting light for
a second, Clay literally was being pulled away from the
altercation he started. And now Rudy is getting fine for
trying to break up something that Clay started.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No, I think I'm with Chris on this one, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What dray come on man, like he could know talk
about protecting your teammate. I'm off for it. He could
have shoved you know, Rudy Gobert, he could have done
anything else, right, he could have punched them. Now, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's a proper all turning up.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes it is, Yes, it is, yes, it is. You
know why slowed it down instead of would have slowed down?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And the headline he literally drug him from the free
throw line to the baseline back to the free.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
From punches too. People lose consciousness, they lose they get concussed.
That's not a proper The proper alternative would have for
all of them to just chill, separate and chill. However,
if I'm gonna be a gold go on in like
if I'm a go I'm gonna go there, go there.
(11:49):
I think y'all are being way too soft. I cannot
believe this for Draymond.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It's Draymond.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's why they've been surprised.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
You got excessive, very excessive.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I don't really I'm not really ever against Draymond's antics,
but like this one, I was like, okay, Draymond, like
you really pushing.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It, like you like this is a lot now.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Before honestly the punch, I was like, Jordan probably says
something crazy. This time we had too much proof, you know,
we was watching the game together, We're like, oh man,
how's he gonna get at this one?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like you had no right to put him in the
choco for that long.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Long Like okay, see now we now we're on the
same page for that long initial I'm about to hand
me up. I have no issue with that. I do
agree though that, like once you start dragging my man
across the floor, like that's you're doing, you're doing a
bit too much, like you went too far. But the
(12:51):
initial up, yeah, like you deserved it, you was. Don't
get all of that, you not?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, all right, all right, we gonna agree to disagree
on that one. Very good. But what we I think
the other aspect about this which is really fascinated is
how this is going to or it already has affected
the team, the Warriors. They beat the Rockets, you know,
Monday night, Steph Curry went off, Klay Thompson looked a
lot better with his shot. But they're tenth in the
(13:20):
West right now. They're tenth now. And before they beat
the Rockets, they lost six straight. So he's thrown himself
out of games. And we know how important he is
to this team as an emotional leader. But also as
a defensive specialist, and somebody has a really high IQ
and we're not sure, you know, how much longer Clay
(13:44):
is going to be able to play or get back
to his you know, regular rate that we're so used
to seeing before the acl and the Achilles. So my
thing is, you're doing a disservice to the team now
because remember last year they had issue now with stemming
from Jordan Poole and Draymond. This year you got to
miss five games. Steph Curry's been out sometime, and again,
(14:06):
some of these other players are not finding their groove
right away. So at what point does Draymond be like
or the coaching staff say, Draymond, I know this is
who you are, but you're really hampering us. You're putting
us in a disadvantaged position, and you gotta you gotta
(14:28):
pull back a little bit. I think that's fair to say, No,
Ded I do.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I do. I have like two sides of this, Like,
I agree that Draymond's presence is definitely felt when he's
not there. He's a huge defensive anchor ball movement. He
keeps the ball moving all the time, So I agree
with that. I think that him missing is not the
only reason that they're losing them. Like, I feel like
it's been way bigger than just Draymond not being there,
(14:55):
and now it's just being magnified. Like like you said,
Clay has not been the same play for quite some time. Now,
when is the front office gonna go and get you know,
younger players, get some fresh feet out there, Like it's
it's now time, Like father time calls on everybody, and
not everybody comes back from injury like that. So I think,
if anything, this should have opened the mind of the
front office and the coaching staff, Like I understand Draymond.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
We understand Draymond as a head case.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Like who's to say he come back after five game
and don't put somebody else in the headlock. So it's
like it's time to start doing being proactive instead of reactive.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm over it now, I'm over the excuses.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm over Clay saying he's gonna come back, He's gonna
figure it out. I'm over Draymond. He's going to turn
a new leap and find God. No, like I don't
even know what's going on, Like we need to figure
it out.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It needs to be something else, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, No, I'm I'm on that same train that. Honestly,
I think this is less about and this isn't me
being biased to Draymond, Like in all seriousness, it's really
not about Draymond at all, Like it's really about Clay.
He what he's averaging thirteen point eight points a game,
shooting forty percent from the field, Like he's not playing well,
and if it was, like, it's not just oh, I'm
(16:01):
in a slump, Like it's feeling like he's mentally not there.
And I know, like coming back off injuries, there are
obviously some mental hurdles that you have to get over, right.
I don't know what that looks like, because that looks
different for everyone. What it is that you have to
overcome mentay in order to get back on the court.
But it just doesn't feel like he's there. And I
(16:21):
think at this point that it is worth a conversation
of whether or not you want to trade Clay. You're
in the last year, he's in the last year of
his conte right, so it really is certainly a conversation
that needs to be had. But I don't think that
this team, this team has proven that they know how
to win without one of their stars. They've done it
for so not having Draymond there. Yes, in this particular season,
(16:43):
given the way that the West is stacked. We've talked
about the West bean stack, for given the way that
you know, they've made some offseason moves. You see, they
shit Jordan Pool to Washington and that ain't working out neither.
With all of that being said, I think the issue
in Golden State is much larger than Draymond Green.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's definitely much larger than Draymond Green. I think it
just is heightened because of the issues and the weaknesses
that you know, Clay is showing sometimes, Steph is not
on you know, Andrew Wiggins, right, the addition of Chris
Paul and how he shot horribly right as a three
point shooter when it comes to how he comes off
(17:22):
different pick and rolls or spot up as opposed to
just catch and shoot right, he's much more prolific at
that rate. So it's like for me, you're you're just
being You're just adding on to all the other issues
that this team has. And people can say, oh, well,
they'll figure it out, you know, because they're the Warriors
and they you know, won all these championships. But we
(17:45):
said that last year. Yeah, what happened, what happened against
the Lakers? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Hell absolutely, yeah, yeah, now go ahead. I don't know
I could I can't agree more. I'm over Clay.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I know that right now, Like.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You said, this is last year and it's literally you
can see he's playing like I'm trying to get this
contract extension instead of playing like Golden State ball. And
it's that's like that right now is the problem that
Golden State can't fathom, like they can't accept that Clay
is not Clay, which is okay. I completely understand that
(18:21):
because like, at the end of the day, that's it. Great,
that's Klay Thompson. We've seen what he's capable of. We'
seeing that what he can do. Is just now, I
think it's time to turn a new leaf with that,
and maybe even Draymond at one point or at least
get somebody reliable like the Andrew Wiggins that came in
in and out for him. I feel like they're missing
all the pieces that they use. They had a really
(18:41):
good build of a team where they had like backups
for everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
They're missing all that this year.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, well, guys, you know what, n ain't the only
person that's sitting out games right now, missing some games.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We're talking.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You mentioned some games.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I don't y'all have been following, but you know, switching
gears a bit to same sport, different league become Angel
Reese been miss Dames till.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Poor shot. To say it again, poor baby. She's been
missing some games. So following what I think most of
us could say it very underwhelming first week of basketball,
especially last week against Kent State, Asia Reese. She was
bitched in the second half of that game and she
(19:41):
ain't been back on the court since. There has been
so much drama around LSU ever since then. Like I
feel like I am on social media watching an episode
of All My Children. That show has been out of
syndication for like ten years at this point. Okay, because
between parents bickering on social media, the fallout between Joyce
(20:07):
Edwards choosing South Carolina and the release of her offer,
then on the court stuff with LSU, all of that
is enough for you to really get your coffee and
tune in. But then when you had the headlines in
the speculation around why Angel Reese is benched, I think
that just kind of adds fuel to an already burning fire.
(20:31):
It feels like. So let me go back a second,
because when Kim Molk was first asked about why Angel
wasn't playing, she said it was a coach's decision. Later on,
she went on to say, hey, she's a part of
this team. We hope to have her back really soon.
Second time she was asked this question days later, she's like, Oh,
(20:57):
I think you guys think that you're entitled to an answer,
but I'm not gonna talk about it. I already said that.
So she's just pretty much avoiding the media questions around
Angel why Angel isn't playing, And honestly, I don't think
that that is what's helping in the way that she
thinks it is, because she followed up with saying, it's
my job to protect my players. It was a quote,
I'm going to protect my players. But I can't understand
(21:20):
in this moment how that's protecting Angel, because Angel is
now being spun a narrative about between her grades, between
our personal endorsements within ill between her off season endeavors,
all of these things are now being placed on Angel
as if this is part of the reason that she's
(21:41):
not playing, when that could or could not be true.
We don't know. And in terms of reporters being entitled, no,
it's called reporters doing a job. The job is to
report on the team, to know what the team is
doing and share that, and part of that means you
answering questions. So it's not about being entitled, simply about
doing my job, which is what this particular reporter was
(22:03):
trying to do before Kim started going off on this.
I'm sick, but I refuse to get a COVID test, ma'am.
I'll send account DDY, get your girlment what is.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Going on to go?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I just want to start out by saying, Kim thrives
in the villain roll.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, like this is what she likes.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
She enjoys this, like we've seen multiple times she's been
on this side of media.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It doesn't bother. I've been in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I've seen it all, and I'm just like, she's like Diddy,
I don't care about them. I'll let them think how
they want to think. That's how she says it, and
I'm like, all right, girl, But like I can't agree
more with the fact that there's no way so Kim
is really good about trying to protect her players keep
in locker room business, locker room business. But I don't
think she's understanding that this is a different era, Like
(22:59):
this is a social media driven area.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Your girl is one of.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
The most famous college basketball players ever, Like this isn't
protecting career by any means, Like this is actually like
really defacing her brand at this point. Like the things
that I see on Twitter when I open Twitter is like,
oh my gosh, Like Kim has got to say something,
like they're running with this, like running with the headlines
(23:24):
of what it could possibly be, or making stories and articles.
She has a million one point some million followers on Instagram,
Like Kim has to say something. This is her brand
at this point. So that's where I am in disagreeent
in disagreement to Kim. But like I was suspended from
it for a game or two and Kim never told anybody.
People still don't know why else suspend it for that game.
(23:44):
Like I know that I knew that she was never
gonna say anything, and she probably will never say anything,
Like it's gonna take probably Angel coming back and playing
for Angel to speak up for herself. But I don't know,
And like I don't even know what this can be,
but I want it, Like Angel, bless her heart, Like
it's that is so much pressure, that is so much
like it's just so much going on like this, The
(24:05):
kids these days have so much more to carry on
their shoulders than we ever did. Like that is the
whole world either against you or for you, and you
just got to ride the wave with it type like
you gotta be such a different type of mental animal
to kind of take in whatever the world is putting out.
And Angel, for her to be so calm and to
tweet something like don't believe everything you read, it's like
(24:26):
that's so that's growth for her, and I want to
give her her flowers on that because we've seen Angel
talk herself into a hole and she is just sitting.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
There closing her mouth, taking it on the chin.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
And I'm really happy for her, like she has grown
whatever coaching she has gotten, I'm I'm obsessed with it,
and I want to talk to the person because I
love it, Chrit, I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I was gonna say I got a question for you, Chris,
but go ahead, go ahead. Well, I mean, like we
well because Steedee brought up a good point and it
was something that I was thinking of while she was talking.
Is because I know you and I have even on
social media talked about relations between players and just in general,
like we're getting players in IO money, we're putting them
(25:08):
in front of the press all the time, Like there
comes a time where at some point you do need
some type of PR training and I don't know that
schools are offering that. And I've recently said I think
that coaches need PR training too, to be honest, because
the stuff that they say at the podium is crazy.
But with that being said, Chris, I was just wondering
your opinion on would this scenario still be happening if
(25:33):
there was like if players were allowed to have like
a PR firm or a PR rep other than the
schools SID or other than what the school is able
to provide, Like, could you see the same scenario happening,
Because then He's right, it is her brand that is
on the line like at this moment.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I do think that's a really good question, and
we wouldn't be seeing this because Angel would feel more
empowered to speak up about what the issue is. However,
there's still a power and balance where kim Okey is
the head coach, right, she is the face of that
program with all the money she makes national titles. Injuries
(26:14):
is a big part of that, and she has made
Kim very rich, you know, and successful. But still it's like,
do I do this because if you decide to speak
out right and say what the reason is, that might
come to hurt you. I might come back to hurt
you because kim Ochi's gonna say, well, why you? Why A?
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You're sharing our business. That's not how we roll. And
then she could get even in more trouble. So I
do think it would. When Diddy brought up the point
about how Angel tweeted out, don't believe everything you hear.
To me, yes, that was calm and measured, but it
also told me that she hates the narratives that are
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being put out there about her. You have so many
people who are clowning her about her grades, saying that, yeah,
when she needs to put her name down on a test,
she's struggling. They are all these memes and jokes about oh,
she wasn't you know working hard during the summer. Yeah,
she literally played on Team USA in the summer, and
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then the fame's going to her head. So that's what
really bothers me is she felt compelled, She felt she
had to say something to make sure that the narrative
was a little bit different. And then for Kim, you know,
to say to the reporter, Hey, it's like a family.
You know, if you discipline your child. Do you think
we're entitled to know? Well, that's a that's a false equivalency, right,
(27:45):
a false equivalent. The reporter family is not on public display.
They're not a national powerhouse. Kim Oki, Angel Reyes and
that squad they are. Yeah, so I didn't like that.
But I want to know, though, from your experience of
being coached by Kim Moki, how does something like this
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perhaps affect the locker room if at all? Because, as
you said, she don't care what the media says or
how they look at her. She's gonna do what she's
gonna do.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think this is what I think that this leads
to that question as well.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I feel like the gag is Angel and Kim are
on the same page because Kim is real, like she's
royal communicative, like she's gonna talk to you through everything,
Like whatever's going on, she's gonna come to the locker room,
it's gonna be a team meeting about it's gonna be
a single meeting by Especially if you're her leader, you
gotta think, but that's her lead, that's the person that
she's relied on. They probably incahoots the whole time. Like
there's times where people will be like, Dedie, what's going
(28:42):
on with your coach? And I knew exactly what she
was thinking, exactly how she was feeling. Like she just
is a walking controversy, like she just picks, doesn't know
what to say, how to say it, but it's how
she feels and that's unapologetically her, and essentially that's Angel,
unapologetically her.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So I feel like it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Doesn't do anything as of what's going on on social
media in the locker room. I feel like what's going
on in the locker room has everything to do with
whatever is going on in the locker room. Like I
don't think I has anything to do with this situation
or whatever we're reading about. I feel like if there's
something going on in the locker room, that is something
that's going on.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
In the locker room. I don't feel like it's connected
at all, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I feel like Kim does a really good job at
separating media and locker room. She's always done that, so
I don't really I don't believe that the media is
even crawling into the locker room making it uncomfortable. Now
could the NIL deals, could brands? Could all that be
a problem? I don't put that past any team, Like
this is a different era, Like I have no idea
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what's going on in these locker rooms and how these
people are getting these deals, and how players are feeling
jealousy or undermining about certain deals. Like it's so much
that can go on right now that we have no idea.
So like I just feel like whatever when she says
they feel like they're entitled, I completely agree with Gut
that that is their job. So it's like whenever she
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starts to figure that out, and this this new realm
of NIL and journalists, like you have the most famous
I don't know how many time we can say this,
you have the most famous college player in the world.
If you are being if your feathers literally are being
ruffled by a freaking reporter, you're gonna be You're I'm
(30:23):
shocked that they're not waiting outside they practiced them or
following her, Like this is the famous person at this
she's a celebrity, Like, what do you expect the people
to do? They're trying to figure out why this villa
isn't playing, what's going on with the LSU team?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So hey, LSU, I, y'all are my prayers for sure?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I just want y'all to know that if D thought
that we was just gonna let this slide, that I'm
about to rebring back up and she was totally wrong
because I totally covered d D in college. Why was
you suspending ground?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh he YoY a yo, hey, y know I was.
I was gonna ask the like, does I remember.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
This game when we was all meet girl? We was
all like, oh no, oh, what is what I told you?
I was at that twenty nineteen final four in Temple. Okay,
how's there? And I was like, listen, this is this
is great, this is amazing. Congratulations Kim, congratulations. Why did
he at the puffs going on?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It was yeah, I love the puff Yeah, the puffs
was the puffs.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It was pups was puffing. Okay, I'm saying we at
hindsight is twenty twenty. It's old now. You can't get
in trouble for it.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
She gonna slipper water right overhead. We ain't getting away
with that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That what you went you was out doing. Stop you
may have no business doing when you ain't make cuffew.
That's the nerdi lay that few.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Who I am.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't even know who that was back in the day.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't sorry this woman, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I will know what thing, Kim, go keep it under
the rug for me.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Let me go and find some old Baylor folks and
be like, at least you try what happened, Well, we
will be back.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah. I feel like we're getting a case of deja
vu from the Phoenix Suns, particularly surrounding Kevin Durant, because
he's been tearing up the league so far. However, his
boys I'm talking about Devin Booker and Bradley Beal have
(32:36):
not been able to stay on the floor together. We
have not seen this big three play together all year.
Durant has played thirteen games, Booker five and Bill three,
and Bill is going to be out for a few
weeks with a disc issue. Right, so there's some nerve
damage that sounds extremely serious. I say DejaVu because this
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is a man and Kevin Durant, who had the same
issues with Kyrie Irving and James Harden when they were
in Brooklyn, whether it was Kyrie was out because of
the COVID mandate or injuries going you know, birthday parties,
or James Harden getting injured KD getting injured. So it
seems to me this is really a case of bad
(33:25):
luck for Kevin Durant, and at his age, at thirty five,
I'm not sure how much of a load he's going
to be able to carry if he has to keep
this up where his teammates are not reliable, and even
with him, he may get injured at some point. Of course,
we hope that doesn't happen, but that is the nature
(33:47):
of the game. And at this current time, right now,
right the Suns are in seventh place. They're seven and six.
You know, they have looked good at times, even though
sometimes they blew, you know, lately to the Spurs with
Wimby that first game. But I don't know how to
feel about it, because I do know how to feel
(34:07):
about it. We are getting the appetizer and then when
the time when it's time for the entree, the chef
is nowhere to be found, right because we're getting Katie
and Booker, Katie and Beal, but when it's time for
Katie be on Booker nothing. So I just wonder if
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they're going to run into the same situation that the
next ran into, you know, a few years ago, where
they have this great cast, but the main guys are
not able to stay healthy. So, Tarika, where do you
stand on this matter? Because of course this is going
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to drag out probably the entire season, especially given the
injury that Bradley Beal has.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, but you know what, I agree with you that
this is definitely looking like Brooklyn Part two, like for sure,
because as you mentioned, you're once again in a situation
with two other guys who you came or who you
expect to help you carry the load, and those guys
haven't been able to play that part.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I think the difference is between what happened in Brooklyn
and what is possibly going to happen in Phoenix is
that you got two people who want to play. You
got two people who want to actually be in the lineup.
Bradley Beal isn't, you know, trying to prove some point
or anything. He's literally injured to where he can't play,
(35:34):
But I am of the belief that if he was
not injured, he would actually want to be out there
on the court. Same with Devin Booker, and you're even
starting to see the difference he's been, you know, reinserted
into this lineup, and it's really been a game changer.
As a matter of fact, they're on a three game
win streak right now, and part of that is because
Booker's back. He's averaging nine point three assists per game.
(35:55):
So you can see them starting to spread the ballmorere
They're shooting as a team fifty three percent from the
field now that he's back, and you got Eric Gorton
and Grayson Allen who have really stepped up heavily for
this team. So I think that there is light at
the end of the tunnel when Bradley Beal returns, and
it really can't put them in a promise in place.
But there are other issues that Phoenix need to figure out.
(36:17):
Number one, why y'all don't play no defense? Hello? I
mean hello, you still letting teams put up one hundred
and twenty points on you figure that out, Phoenix, figure
that out. But all in all, I would say that
I think we're I think Durant is in a better
place than he was when he was going through this
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similar situation in Brooklyn. It won't last as long, and
he definitely has people who want to play. Whereas you
don't know what was going on with James Harten, you
don't know what was going on with Kyrie Irvin. He
was too busy trying to prove a point set. Now,
mental health days, all this other stuff. I mean, listen,
I ain't hating on mental health, but you had a
(36:59):
lot out of days that you needed to take a break.
So yeah, I think that that's the difference. The teammates
who he's going through this with provide a different outlook
on basketball and their place in it than the teammates
that he had to go through this with in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
That's such a great point. That's such a great point.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
I literally was thinking that I don't know if I
agree if this is the same or if this isn't
like comparing the two, but I feel like, yes, I
feel like that's why I feel like it's not the same.
It's because he has a core group that really genuinely
is not really trying to go out of their way
to do something like they're not. This is not underlying
a bigger picture or anything. It's genuinely injuries. My only
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problem as to why I feel like it also is
not the same is because I feel like, at the
end of the day, Kevin Durant knew what he was
getting into by choosing to go to Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And I say that because d.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Book deals with soft tissue injuries all the time, like
it's unfortunate, but it's like I've done that as well.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I've been dealing with my hand freeings forever.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You can control the healing and the time frame of
a soft tissue injury. So d Book in his ability
to be in and out of a lineup has been
something that we've all seen. We've seen it since his
whole career. And then on top of that, Bradley Bill
what the past four years has played the total I
mean at most sixty games like three years ago, and
there's eighty two games in a season. So like, I'm
not shocked that I'm sorry, but Bradley Bill is hurt,
(38:23):
Like that's not shocking to me, or that wasn't shocking
to me that the Book was hurt. So I feel
like this is now more so self inflicted on Kevin Durant,
whereas with the Brooklyn Nets, it was you didn't expect
Carrier Ivering to go out his way to try to
prove a point. You got to support him because he's
definitely somebody that's gonna speak his mind. You know that
about Kyrie Evon, But you didn't think that he was
gonna do all that for when the COVID thing happened,
(38:43):
you know. So in James Harden, I still don't understand
that trade to get rid of all the young players
that you get rid of For James Harden, I don't
understand that infatuation with the big three whenever you can
have a big two and a great supporting cast.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's just me and that's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But they did much Twitter don't know what's hard to
a girl.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Girl like I don't know what they was thinking doing that,
But that has nothing to do with me. And then
on top of that, Phoenix, I feel like Brooklyn it's
they didn't like the front office.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
The front office was a huge problem in Brooklyn. Out
Here in Phoenix. That's why I feel like him.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Durance in a better place as well, is that your
front office is doing whatever they can for you. They're
figuring it out and they're all on the same page.
They're all on the court, whereas I feel like the
people on the court and the people in the front
office was going against each other in Brooklyn and I
was in that exact same building. I feel like it
was just tension. Well, and I will walk into practice
and see them practicing like it didn't even feel like
a home there. So I don't think the same thing
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is going on in Phoenix, And that's why I feel
like this will be a little different. And there is
light at the end of the tunnel with Phoenix and
Kevin Duran. So I don't really want to say it's
bad luck. More so as I want to say that
is he knew what he was getting himself into. You
want to go Devin Booker and then later go acts
for Bradley Bell. Come on, you wanted to play by yourself? Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, for real? In and to that point, it's like
we've been saying it all show. We've said it in
previous shows. The West is stacked, like there no room
for mediocrity in the West, so you gotta bring your
a game. And I think just even having Devin Booker
back in the Phoenix lineup, just done so much for
(40:20):
this Phoenix c like they were I want to say,
seventh or eighth the turnovers. Now that you've got d
book back, you got like a real point guard, someone
who knows how to control the ball, and they the
turnovers you've seen over these last couple of games have
started to decrease. So I think Kevin Durant is in
a better situation. But you're right, DD, like you knew
(40:40):
what you was doing when you came here. I actually
felt that way about KD for the last couple of
places that he's relocated. You knew that you what you
were doing, what you got there, You knew what was
at stake. You knew who you were playing with. It
certainly wasn't your first time playing with James Harden. You
knew what that train was.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Hold up, Hold up though, hold up, he played with
James Harden when they were babies in that beginning.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Your character trait. Sometimes character traits don't change. And the
problem with that is James Harten thinks that he's steal
that saying James Harten from Oklahoma City, and he's not.
So there's so that's neither your North there. But it's true,
so that's neither here North there. But listen, you have
got to essentially put yourself in a position to where
(41:27):
you don't I feel like as you get older as
a player, you want to put yourself in a position
to where you don't always have to be the guy.
And Kevinder continually puts themselves in a position where, regardless
of who he's playing with, he has to be the guy.
Even in Golden State. That's second championship. That was KD
bro like, like, it's what it is. So your third pictures,
(41:50):
I mean your mid thirties, you're now you balling.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
You want an MVP combo you ballin. Yeah, but at
some point, like you want to be able to put
yourself in a pot position to literally co play with
folks and not always feel like you have to be
the guy. And all Fortunately, Kevin Durant puts themselves in
these positions.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
So you know what you here, Yeah he knew he's doing,
but you know, or Chris.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Chris trying to find a way to stop tapping for
these me and Chris and he is what it is.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
It's not Kavin. What I'm gonna say, is I find
it hella ironic that ever since he left Golden State
he's running to these issues where when he went to
the Warriors, yes, he was the best player. The most
valuable player was probably Steph Curry because of all the
attention that they gave him in the playoffs. And then
(42:45):
you have to look at the injury situation with the
Warriors or with the teams that they went up against.
They were benefactors of a lot of teams getting injured,
whether it was k Love, you know, Kyrie Irving, or
whether it was Kawhi Leonard injury. They have been on
the right side of history in their run to becoming
(43:05):
a dynasty. The year they beat the Celtics, you know,
that was that was special that they just they were
flat out the better team. But my point is a
d leaving the Warriors has kind of put him on
this path where to your points, yeah, he's chosen to
be the guy when he could have stayed in Golden
(43:26):
State and they probably win a couple more titles. But
that old Draymond Green situation on the bench, like you
a bitch, we don't need you, we want that kind
of escalated.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Hold hold up, it ain't no bitch, I ain't saying that,
Like no, but I'm saying like they did win titles
without them, Like what's he wrong?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
No, no, don't talk about in front of Tito. She
gonna go off about.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's not Draymond is from Michigan. He is a Michigan
State spartan. That's two of two. I don't even need
a three. Were not doing it. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I feel. I feel whenever Tarika hears somebody talking about Draymond,
like her ears percuption, what do you say? What you
say about sagon ha, don't do that?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
What don't do that?
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I can't understand it though, I really it's so many
people that love Draymond. They're like, I'm so used to this.
Why do people love this man like this? But I
don't even want to get into no Draymond.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Talk someone, Yeah, we Draymond talk on this show on
this episode, Like my mats was about to be crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm playing y'all before y'all come ay on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Relax, they'll they'll get over it. They'll get over it.
But were about to we about to have to break.
On the other side, we got a nice little game
for y'all. And uh yeah, stay tuned, baby, we got greens, beans, potatoes, tomatoes,
your name, we got green potatoes, you name. God know
(45:04):
what it is. It is the Thanksgiving edition of Start,
bench and Cut. And here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna give different categories. We're gonna start benching cut. So
we got meats, veggies, the carbs, desserts, and the desserts
number two. We started off with the meats portion. This
(45:24):
ain't our beast, by the way, okay, turkey, ham, and
fried chicken. I'm just saying we have the meat for me.
I'm starting honey baked ham, I'm benching turkey, and then
cutting fried chicken.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Whoa wrong answer?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
We wait? Hold up, hold up, hold up, no, no, no,
let me let me run that back. Let me run
it back. I'm starting ham because I love some honey
baked ham. I'm benching fried chicken. Then we're gonna cut
turkey because sometimes the turk the turkey dry. So mm hmm, yeah,
that's what I'm doing. What you doing?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Okay, so I should the correct answer should go second.
I agree.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
So what I'm going to start is fried chicken, because
who's not starting fried chicken, and then I'm gonna bench. Hell,
they're both really if I could cut both, could I
would cut both.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I'm not eating the hambro the turkey. So like I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna say, bench the ham, cut the turkey.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Period, I'm starting my answer, cutting Deiti's answer and bench
the answer now. So I'm starting turkey. But here's the thing.
Turkey doesn't necessarily mean like the actual bird because we
eat turkey, weings, turkey wings, Turkey drives with the gravy
on it.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
So I just saw that on TikTok. I said, I
can probably get into that.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yes, we don't necessarily have like turkey turkey. So I'm
starting a turkey. I'm benching the ham. I love honey
baked ham. We gonna we might bring it later. I'm
definitely cutting fried chicken on Thanksgiving, fried chicken every other
day of the week. So on Thanksgiving, you're not the
star today. Well that's that's me.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
I just really don't like turkey nor ham. So I'm
always the girl that has no meat on her plate
during Thanksgiving. It's a whole bunch of sides and bread.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Sometimes that's all you need. All Chris we got veggie,
so we got greens. Green bean castle on broccoli now
Tarika's face. So I'm starting greens for sure. Leve me
some collar greens if it's done right, kids, Okay, thank you,
(47:48):
d you better agree here too. We cutting the hell
out of green bean castle. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Nobody got time for that. Okay, and then we bench
and brock I love me some broccoli, so we got
we all agreement there on an agreement with the veggies.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Honestly, I wanted like broccoli and rice casserole instead of broccoli.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
I love you some broccoli and rice cancer.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I hear the actually coming out. I love me some
right broccoli. Yeah, my daddy, this is.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
My favorite part, y'all. This next category is my favorite
period carb side.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
This is what everybody came to see. This is these
are the m v p s right, yes, mac and cheese,
stuffing or dressing, however you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's not whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
They are not the same.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Stopping and stopping.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's what our producer y'all said. So this is our okay,
candy yams, hey man, he'll be all right, y'all gonna
be all right or candy yams right. So for me,
it's starting mac and cheese and then we're gonna bench
(49:17):
candy yams. I love me some yams. It's getting feisty
and cutting stuffy. I don't. I don't miss stuffing whatsoever. Yeah,
don't care for it.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
I don't hate this lineup, Chris Man, I don't hate
the lineup, Okay. I think I go back and forth
between yams and mac depending upon which untea make the
mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
So like if my aunt Tydanca make the mac and
cheese first, okay, period, I'm just starting mac and cheese.
It don't make it.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
The candy jam is first, aus b Nana makes it
every time, and she gonna put her foot in there
every time. So I'm gonna just say, because my nanna
ain't never fell off, start candy ms, bench mac and
cheese and cut the stuff in puree.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I want to put tree and that ddy on, Okay,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I don't want the same train that dy on. Except
if this was dressing overtop it, we might had a
different out come. Because see, for those who don't know
stocking is what you actually pull out of the turkey.
So when people put the turkey, the dressing in the
turkey and you pull the then you pull the breaded
(50:35):
stuff out. That's that's where the name comes from. Dressing
is made in the oven. So you make that in
the bowl. You mix all with your bread, your sage,
your salt, pepper, your onion, break up your corn bread
and all that. Know that you ain't got your little gravy,
little salt, little little woo, little boil water, little chicken broth,
all of that up in there because your girl can cook. Okay,
(50:57):
add all that up in there, and you put that
in the it. And when you pull that out and
it's all nice and readed in the little pan and
the little in it's all brown. At the top dash dressing. Baby,
that right there is top tiars.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
That's the one you put cranberry sauce on.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
That is come out.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
You would put some cranberry sauce and some gravy on
that thing. Let me tell you, I don't know if
I could cut that, So I had to make sure
we had to differentiate.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
If this.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Or stuffing, that's where I would wanted to go. Then
we cutting that thing that's the pout of there. I'm
going to say mac and cheese is gonna start for me,
although depending on who makes the mac and cheese, some
people mac and cheese ain't starting in nobody's lineup, So
there's that. So I mean, I need to know who's
(51:46):
making the mac and cheese. But I'm gonna go on
the wheel and say we start the mac bench the
ms cut the stuffing.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Do you like your mac and cheese like five cheese?
I need all the cheeses you like to be brown
and crispy.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Right, it's got to be crispy like the top could
be christy. Yes, when you cut into wheat got.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
My mouth is watering And I'm.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Telling you I want mac and cheese right now.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
Hey, I ain't gonna lie if y'all cooking, and y'all
want to shift some over to Sitdney, austral I just
sent my address.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
I gotcha.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah that x.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
You say your auntie right Deanka?
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Oh my gosh, yes, she just got married all on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Shout out married grad Congratulations. Why are you celebrated? Could
you bless us with some of that maca cheese?
Speaker 5 (52:40):
I see you can make the mac and cheese. The
whole family be run into the kitchen. Yes, but she
would have put something for me on the side, because
I am the family's favorite.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
But no one wants to say that.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I can believe that you would say that. You would
say that. Okay, next that we got breads, Hawaiian rolls.
Shoot men, do it again, all right? Next up, we
got the breads, Hawaiian rolls, biscuits, corn bread. Now for me,
(53:16):
I love me some good ass Hawaiian rolls, So I'm
may I'm going to start that and then corn bread.
I'm going to bingch Yeah, biscuits they're gonna have to
get cut. I don't think about biscuits for Thanksgiving. Really,
(53:37):
it's just not something that comes to mind. But give
me some good corn bread and those Hawaiian rolls. I
would eat those for breakfast for like her whole meal
if I could. But I'm trying to watch my you know,
my weight and get my body right. So you know
that's the.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Literally, I'm a bread girl, y'all. I'm a bread gal.
And I said all the time, like anything, tortilla, peter, bread, anything,
I'm gonna eat it. So this is another one of
my favorite sections of this part. So I'm seriously but
because we have Hawaiian rolls year round and I eat
(54:16):
those all the time, I'm gonna bench them for now.
But I feel so disrespectful to the high and row guidance. Okay,
Hawaiian row, I am sorry, but I'm gonna have to
start my memo. Cornbread.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh, y'all.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
I'm getting so excited about Thanksgiving and I'm not even
gonna be there, but I gonna have to bench biscuits
because that's not like a breakfast food to me, like
I want to put some syrup on it.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
I don't know why, butter and syrup. I don't want
that for Thanksgiving. But mommilged cornbread, y'all. I just can't
stop thinking about that. I can't believe you'll are doing
this to me. I'm not even gonna beat everything giving
you now. I have to talk about the food that
I want to start.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Because our producers are cruel. Our producers are yes, cool,
they are cool, Okay, if it makes you feel any better.
My husband's a chef. He has to work on Thanksgiving,
so I will be spending Thanksgiving for twelve hours alone
because I live in Connecticut, and I ain't got no
family here. Oh no, I'm gonna eat though, I'm gonna
eat tho.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
I just gotta year round. You got a chef for
a husband.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
He don't cook me ship because he worked so dash?
Will we all die any anything up? And yeah, this stoven,
this kitchen is quick. Do you hear me?
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yo he yo?
Speaker 1 (55:42):
In my mind I saw that going differently, yo.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Mind you No, that's how you get That's how you
get you. He cooked you, the fool when he gets you.
And then once he got you, when he gotta work
twelve hours a day, you're ordering door dance. So all
y'all folks are talking about cheesecake back three? Will we
eating the ship out some cheese apat three year? Okay?
Because I ain't no nobody good? But to your back
to the back to the bitch starting bench cutting, we
(56:06):
starting cornbread, We are benching biscuits, and I am cutting
Hawaiian rolls. But it's to the point you made. I
can get Haryan rolls anytime, like you know, but and
it's got to be homemade biscuits, like it can't be
like you know, some random popped out of the thing,
biscuits like my mom. My mom makes like homemade yeast
(56:27):
biscuits at the bar.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Okay, all right, that's because I was thinking Pillsbury for show.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yes, Pillsbury, or give me some shaar Bay biscuits, red lobster. Right, Yeah,
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
It's my favorite partners.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
She's talking about desserts. People starting off with number one
dessert pecan, apple or sweet potato. So for me, I
me some apple pie with some caramel sauce in the
whipped cream. Oh my goodness is just so suckulent. Right ah,
(57:08):
So we're gonna start that. Then let me some pecan.
You gotta have the pecan if it's done right, not
too It's not overly sweet, but just enough, and it's sweet.
Potato is cool. But again I'm not I'm not too
excited about it. So that's gonna be cut. So yeah,
(57:30):
start apple bench, pecan, sweet potato, see you later.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
I just broke my heart. I can't lie.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
I literally I'm gonna put pecan pie. I'm starting it
because my Dana, she puts her foot in that too.
It's the canny answer, the pecan pie and nana guy
have it.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Pecan pie.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
One second sweet potato pie because my memm is gonna
do it. Okay, She's gonna do some sweet potato pie.
Everybody that comes to the house be like, is me
whon cooking? Is me whal making the sweet potato pies?
Making the corn bread?
Speaker 3 (58:07):
They got that, they got that for them. But I'm
gonna have to cut apple pie.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
And never been an apple pie unless it's the one
from Popeye's or McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
In the little thing.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
What Jesus look the look for the first to say
apple pie from McDonald's. I used to kill that amazing
in high school. But compared to the homemait, well, I
just don't.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Think I've ever tried it either.
Speaker 5 (58:34):
If I'm being completely honest, I have never just that
slice of apple pie and eaten.
Speaker 3 (58:40):
And it's like I've always gotten it for McDonald's or Popeyes.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
I cannot believe I'm hearing this. This is a revelation, folks.
We will have to get some real apple pie because
this is is that what we're gonna do. We're gonna
get ds some real apple pie. This is tough for me, guys.
I love the desserts, okay, but there are two things
(59:04):
that I noticed I noticed one. I clearly am from
Detroit because y'all say pecan, I say pecan.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
So there, I knew somebody's gonna say. I knew somebody gonna.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Say, folks. Okay, So here's the thing. The thing for
me is and I'm gonna try to make this quick. Okay.
Apple pie is my third favorite dessert ever, so like
in a hierarchy of desserts, it's kilan pie, cheesecake, apple pie,
like those are my top three ever. Like ever, however,
(59:37):
Thanksgiving is its own season, so there are certain things
that I can allow Thanksgiving that I probably wouldn't any
other time. Thanksgiving, I'm saying I would probably start sweet
but seta pie, I would probably bench pecan pie, and
(59:59):
I would have to to cut unwillingly apple pie only
because it's Thanksgiving. Other like, like, this is the only
season where I'm really gonna eat sweet potato pie and
pecan pie like any other season of the world. Apple
pie is third. Don't ask me, don't question, like this
is with it this period and it is what it is.
(01:00:22):
But in this season, I'm starting sleep potato, I'm benching pecan,
and I'm cutting apple.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Okay, Now I was about to ride you there and
give you a lot of hell for that. But you
got what you needed to do because I said it's
for Thanksgiving only, Thanksgiving only, Thanksgiving only, so you're good
in my book. Now that's it, all right. We got
one more dessert category, carrot cake, pumpkin pie, banana pudding,
and let me tell y'all, banana pudding. My sister in
(01:00:50):
law makes some of the best banana pudding I've ever had,
So that's number one. We start in that joint. Carrot cake.
I know a lot of people hate it. They think
it's disgusting. I'm gonna those weirdos who enjoys it. So
we're going to bench it and then pumpkin pie. Again,
it doesn't move the needle for me. It does not
move the needle for me. It doesn't matter who makes it.
(01:01:11):
So pumpkin pie, you can get your ass out of there.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, honestly, I can keep this one short. I'm cutting
all three.
Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I don't want either one of them. I do not
want neither one of them. Well, apparently makes really good
banana pudding, so I hear, but I'm allergic to bananas
by choice. I forget to tell people that I don't
like bananas allergic by choice.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I wish you Chris. I wish you Chris to clear
the air about pumpkin pie. I actually don't think pumpkin
pie is gross. I think pumpkin pie is okay, but
I'm not picking it first like all these other folks,
like they're like, oh, it's pumpkin plot. No, it's not
like it's the bottom tier of pies, like it's edible. Sure, yeah,
they are, sure, but like, I ain't choosing pumpkin pie
(01:01:57):
over the Sweet Tata pie apple pie pee. Like, no way,
there's no way anyone's doing that. Is not truly a
dessert tear. I don't know if that's a word, but
I've made it up.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
It sounds great. It needs to be at the urban
diction should be.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I am a dessert tear and we are not eating
I first.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I'm sorry, you say key lime pie and I'm not
here for it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Hold up, now, let's not disrespect pie. That's how we
know we need to end this episode because you don't
lost your mind. Need Richard respect lost pie? Yes, key
line pie.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
And when I see it, it just gives mint chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Okay, all right, Okay, so what you know. I was
gonna wish both of y'all Happy Thanksgiving, but now I'm
only going to wish to Rika Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Happy Chris.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Hey, this is what happened with you don't get her nap.
I can't get her nap.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I need the happy Thanksgiving. Please, I don't even celebrate
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Okay, Happy Thanksgiving. D There you go, and we want
to wish everybody out there who's listening or watching this
episode happy Thanksgiving. Hope you're able to spend it with
your loved ones and able to soak up those moments
and not take them for granted. And make sure y'all
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for this episode of the three on three Pod. Baby
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of the three
on three pod, where three hosts give you three unique
perspectives on three of the hottest topics in the basketball world.
And this is a special day because Tarika's in the house.
What's good girl? What's up? Baby? What up?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's going on? Y'all?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Nothing must is living bright, trying to be like you
and then hold up, we got DDI.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's a party.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's a party because literally we have never had this
happen before on the show where we have all three
of the main ingredients for this podcast. I just want
to say, and it's so fitting right because it's a
Thanksgiving holiday weekend or week coming up that we finally
have each other. Yeah to look at two but all
(01:00):
three of us. So I'm amotional. We bring it out.
The singing. We bring it out the singing. Eight a m.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
In the morning, Okay, one at night?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Am right here? Right, You're right, I'm always down to saying,
always down the.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Sing I just want to say, though, like your all
of y'all energies is just so infectious and really inspiring,
so that I can't say enough about how excited I
am to get this episode kicked off because we're gonna
(01:40):
have a whole lot of fun. And then I feel
like and one of those topics is gonna get get
a little spicy, Get a little spicy that y'all, black
spice ain't hurting us, but we bring up we want
the spice might be a little red hot, look a
little tabascar lachilula. Yep, you know, oh man Ato. Going
(02:07):
back to the Thanksgiving theme though, like DEDI, how are
you handling the holidays in Australia because I know that's
got to be a huge, huge adjustment for you.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Honestly, is it though?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
You guys? Because in college, you know, we ain't never
celebrated Thanksgiving, Like we didn't really get to go home.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We were always on like a trip.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Like my freshman year was Bahamas, sophomore year it was Vegas.
Junior year, I can't remember, but like we're always somewhere,
so I'm always I've been used to missing Thanksgivings. Now
the difference this year is all be missing Christmas. That's
gonna change it up a little bit. But I'm used
to missing Thanksgivings, which is super unfortunate. But this year,
(02:46):
like there we're doing like a huge friends giving thing,
Like it's not really huge out here, but I'm forcing
my team like, Okay, bring your food, pot luck.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We're gonna do it because I need to feel like home.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I that makes a lot of sense. And I think
you just made me feel like I played the wrong
sport in college because I played a spring sport. So
in my mind, I'm like, I wasn't in Vegas and
Bahamas and stuff, like I really get the wrong sport. Okay,
Like good holidays? Were we missing playing softball? It was
(03:18):
just we missed, yes, but we didn't missed no good holiday.
He's like when I missed Eastern God on my heart,
Like what we doing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
It's my first year, my first Thanksgiving missing, my first
Thanksgiving missing. I literally sat in the Bahamas and I
remember getting these watery I'm so sorry. I'm so grateful
for my food bimony because that's where I was staying,
but I got these watery mac and cheese and I
just sat there and I burst out in tears.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And my coach is like, Kim.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Was like, what's wrong?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And I'm like, I was so upset, but.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I learned food.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's hilarious. That is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's priceless right there?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And me?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Me?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Who I am?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Y'all? Now I can miss Thanksgiving and I'm okay. I
can see little pictures of people in their little cookout
knees and the plates on their knees. I can see
it and not getting my feelings I used to be wishing.
I wish it tastes disgusting. I hope that makes your
summer time.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Have you text you tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Now?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm okay. Have you Thanksgiving? Super grateful for you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I'm screaming christ hate it's the I'm screaming, well Thanksgiving
be having people in the choco speaking of choke ho
well show calt, guys.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Transition for the wind there is.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, it's so crazy because last week we were
talking about Draymond Green and him talking jump to Anthony Edwards.
So this week, y'all, we're still talking about dray margray
and the Temperwhopes, but only this time we're talking about him,
him and Rudy Gobert. Jesus. Okay. So for anybody who's
(05:30):
been living under a rock for the last week and
has no idea what's been happening, it was the second
game of a back to back Draymond gree He got
ejected like less than one hundred seconds into the basketball
game the score was still practically like zero zero for
his part in an altercation with Clay Thompson and Jada McDaniels. Okay,
(05:54):
now Clay, him and him, McDaniels, go bear. They were
all fine. Twenty five thousand dollars. Draymond got suspended for
five games because he decided to put Rudy Gobert in
a choke hole. So basically this whole thing started because
Clay and McDaniels, they were going back and forth. Low
key Clay was grabbing his jersey. Jaden was like, I
(06:15):
don't like that. Yeah. It was really like Clay really
wasn't the wrong, to be honest, but Jada held his all.
He started tonguing back. They get into a scuffle. Rudy
go Beart comes out of nowhere, grabs Clay. Draymond, being
the enforcer teammate that he is, came to Thompson's a
put Gobert in a sleeper hole, and here we are,
(06:36):
but to be out of yaw. My biggest issue isn't
even Draymond. My biggest issue is the lack of accountability
for Rudy Gobert. What made Draymond go there in the
first place. See, this is the stuff that I'll be
talking about. People always want to talk about the reaction,
but they never want to discuss what made me react
(06:57):
like that in the first place. What made me get
disrespectful in the first place. And it was absolutely Rudy Gobert.
Like I get that the choke hold was excessive because
it wasn't like the thing was It wasn't like he
just did it and like just let it go like
(07:17):
he did it, and then you drug Rudy for like
a good fifteenth Okay, Yeah, that's wearing God a little
out of hair. Like you ain't have to drag Rudy
across the court in a choke hold like that could
get dangerous, that could get deadly. Like that's where you
went too far. But the initial I'm coming to Clay's aid,
(07:37):
like that's how I want my teammate to respond in
that same scenario. This is the same Draymond Green who
punched the hell out of Jordan Pool in a practice.
I need you to keep that same energy if you
if you're beating up the whole team. I need you
to keep that same energy with folks for the opposite
on the opposite side. So I wasn't necessarily man at Zan,
(07:59):
but it was in the postgame presser y'all where Rudy
Gobert was like, oh, this is clown behavior, and that's
where I was like, Okay, no, we're not gonna do that,
because you're the same person who is out here touching
on the microphones that shut down the NBA in twenty
twenty making a joke of COVID. So we're really not
(08:20):
about to talk about clown behavior, Rudy, because.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Probably Hoda hold up, holda Oda, a clown with no
clown though.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right, I'm just saying that why you ain't the person
to be leading that conversation about clown behavior, Rudy, because
you've got a history adorn some clown shit yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that's that's.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Where my issue comes from. I know Draymond got a
five game suspension because he's Draymond. He's got the history,
he's got all of that. But Chris, when you heard
about this, like, what was your initial reaction?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
My initial reaction is Draymond, you wild? Draymond's been trying
to Draymond has been waiting for this moment because clearly
has no respect for Ridygob. He's been waiting to get
him in a choke hold or do something to him.
And he saw him put his arm around Clay, and
I was like, all right, this is my chance, and boom,
he sees on that motherfucker like no other. All right,
sees on that shit and then he's he I think
(09:15):
he wanted to pass out, like honestly, that's how I felt.
Now I disagree though, because Rudy Gobert he did punch
his teammate last year. I think it was, you know,
during the playoffs. But Rudy Gobert is not an instigator.
He's not somebody who's an aggressor. So I feel like
he was trying to, you know, break up McDaniels and Thompson.
(09:35):
And how you get fined twenty five thousand for being
put in a choke hold. That's what That's what got
me wrong. You getting fined twenty five grand and you're
the one who got your ass putting a choke hold
on national TV.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So fine.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
No no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
came on no no, he was not to he could
stop it, we can stop it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Play and rewatched that clip at least some times. My
man Clay was like, these up under, Rudy Gobri, I
don't care what your intentions was. What Draymond saw was
you got my.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Teammates under these your arms.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I was about to come and check that ship.
And it was like for half a second, right, I
just like it too long.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Rudy didn't have like you see how Draymond had, right,
I don't think Rudy had that. Like you could see drama,
whole bicep coming out. I'm like, yo, can you let
him out?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
What that was?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Dangerous?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Clay was not like about to die, like everybody was
concerned for Rudy's life, Like Rudy was getting light for
a second, Clay literally was being pulled away from the
altercation he started. And now Rudy is getting fine for
trying to break up something that Clay started.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No, I think I'm with Chris on this one, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What dray come on man, like he could know talk
about protecting your teammate. I'm off for it. He could
have shoved you know, Rudy Gobert, he could have done
anything else, right, he could have punched them. Now, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's a proper all turning up.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes it is, Yes, it is, yes, it is. You
know why slowed it down instead of would have slowed down?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And the headline he literally drug him from the free
throw line to the baseline back to the free.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
From punches too. People lose consciousness, they lose they get concussed.
That's not a proper The proper alternative would have for
all of them to just chill, separate and chill. However,
if I'm gonna be a gold go on in like
if I'm a go I'm gonna go there, go there.
(11:49):
I think y'all are being way too soft. I cannot
believe this for Draymond.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It's Draymond.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's why they've been surprised.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
You got excessive, very excessive.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I don't really I'm not really ever against Draymond's antics,
but like this one, I was like, okay, Draymond, like
you really pushing.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It, like you like this is a lot now.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Before honestly the punch, I was like, Jordan probably says
something crazy. This time we had too much proof, you know,
we was watching the game together, We're like, oh man,
how's he gonna get at this one?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like you had no right to put him in the
choco for that long.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Long Like okay, see now we now we're on the
same page for that long initial I'm about to hand
me up. I have no issue with that. I do
agree though that, like once you start dragging my man
across the floor, like that's you're doing, you're doing a
bit too much, like you went too far. But the
(12:51):
initial up, yeah, like you deserved it, you was. Don't
get all of that, you not?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, all right, all right, we gonna agree to disagree
on that one. Very good. But what we I think
the other aspect about this which is really fascinated is
how this is going to or it already has affected
the team, the Warriors. They beat the Rockets, you know,
Monday night, Steph Curry went off, Klay Thompson looked a
lot better with his shot. But they're tenth in the
(13:20):
West right now. They're tenth now. And before they beat
the Rockets, they lost six straight. So he's thrown himself
out of games. And we know how important he is
to this team as an emotional leader. But also as
a defensive specialist, and somebody has a really high IQ
and we're not sure, you know, how much longer Clay
(13:44):
is going to be able to play or get back
to his you know, regular rate that we're so used
to seeing before the acl and the Achilles. So my
thing is, you're doing a disservice to the team now
because remember last year they had issue now with stemming
from Jordan Poole and Draymond. This year you got to
miss five games. Steph Curry's been out sometime, and again,
(14:06):
some of these other players are not finding their groove
right away. So at what point does Draymond be like
or the coaching staff say, Draymond, I know this is
who you are, but you're really hampering us. You're putting
us in a disadvantaged position, and you gotta you gotta
(14:28):
pull back a little bit. I think that's fair to say, No,
Ded I do.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I do. I have like two sides of this, Like,
I agree that Draymond's presence is definitely felt when he's
not there. He's a huge defensive anchor ball movement. He
keeps the ball moving all the time, So I agree
with that. I think that him missing is not the
only reason that they're losing them. Like, I feel like
it's been way bigger than just Draymond not being there,
(14:55):
and now it's just being magnified. Like like you said,
Clay has not been the same play for quite some time. Now,
when is the front office gonna go and get you know,
younger players, get some fresh feet out there, Like it's
it's now time, Like father time calls on everybody, and
not everybody comes back from injury like that. So I think,
if anything, this should have opened the mind of the
front office and the coaching staff, Like I understand Draymond.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
We understand Draymond as a head case.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Like who's to say he come back after five game
and don't put somebody else in the headlock. So it's
like it's time to start doing being proactive instead of reactive.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm over it now, I'm over the excuses.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm over Clay saying he's gonna come back, He's gonna
figure it out. I'm over Draymond. He's going to turn
a new leap and find God. No, like I don't
even know what's going on, Like we need to figure
it out.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It needs to be something else, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, No, I'm I'm on that same train that. Honestly,
I think this is less about and this isn't me
being biased to Draymond, Like in all seriousness, it's really
not about Draymond at all, Like it's really about Clay.
He what he's averaging thirteen point eight points a game,
shooting forty percent from the field, Like he's not playing well,
and if it was, like, it's not just oh, I'm
(16:01):
in a slump, Like it's feeling like he's mentally not there.
And I know, like coming back off injuries, there are
obviously some mental hurdles that you have to get over, right.
I don't know what that looks like, because that looks
different for everyone. What it is that you have to
overcome mentay in order to get back on the court.
But it just doesn't feel like he's there. And I
(16:21):
think at this point that it is worth a conversation
of whether or not you want to trade Clay. You're
in the last year, he's in the last year of
his conte right, so it really is certainly a conversation
that needs to be had. But I don't think that
this team, this team has proven that they know how
to win without one of their stars. They've done it
for so not having Draymond there. Yes, in this particular season,
(16:43):
given the way that the West is stacked. We've talked
about the West bean stack, for given the way that
you know, they've made some offseason moves. You see, they
shit Jordan Pool to Washington and that ain't working out neither.
With all of that being said, I think the issue
in Golden State is much larger than Draymond Green.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's definitely much larger than Draymond Green. I think it
just is heightened because of the issues and the weaknesses
that you know, Clay is showing sometimes, Steph is not
on you know, Andrew Wiggins, right, the addition of Chris
Paul and how he shot horribly right as a three
point shooter when it comes to how he comes off
(17:22):
different pick and rolls or spot up as opposed to
just catch and shoot right, he's much more prolific at
that rate. So it's like for me, you're you're just
being You're just adding on to all the other issues
that this team has. And people can say, oh, well,
they'll figure it out, you know, because they're the Warriors
and they you know, won all these championships. But we
(17:45):
said that last year. Yeah, what happened, what happened against
the Lakers? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Hell absolutely, yeah, yeah, now go ahead. I don't know
I could I can't agree more. I'm over Clay.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I know that right now, Like.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You said, this is last year and it's literally you
can see he's playing like I'm trying to get this
contract extension instead of playing like Golden State ball. And
it's that's like that right now is the problem that
Golden State can't fathom, like they can't accept that Clay
is not Clay, which is okay. I completely understand that
(18:21):
because like, at the end of the day, that's it. Great,
that's Klay Thompson. We've seen what he's capable of. We'
seeing that what he can do. Is just now, I
think it's time to turn a new leaf with that,
and maybe even Draymond at one point or at least
get somebody reliable like the Andrew Wiggins that came in
in and out for him. I feel like they're missing
all the pieces that they use. They had a really
(18:41):
good build of a team where they had like backups
for everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
They're missing all that this year.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, well, guys, you know what, n ain't the only
person that's sitting out games right now, missing some games.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
We're talking.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You mentioned some games.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I don't y'all have been following, but you know, switching
gears a bit to same sport, different league become Angel
Reese been miss Dames till.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Poor shot. To say it again, poor baby. She's been
missing some games. So following what I think most of
us could say it very underwhelming first week of basketball,
especially last week against Kent State, Asia Reese. She was
bitched in the second half of that game and she
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ain't been back on the court since. There has been
so much drama around LSU ever since then. Like I
feel like I am on social media watching an episode
of All My Children. That show has been out of
syndication for like ten years at this point. Okay, because
between parents bickering on social media, the fallout between Joyce
(20:07):
Edwards choosing South Carolina and the release of her offer,
then on the court stuff with LSU, all of that
is enough for you to really get your coffee and
tune in. But then when you had the headlines in
the speculation around why Angel Reese is benched, I think
that just kind of adds fuel to an already burning fire.
(20:31):
It feels like. So let me go back a second,
because when Kim Molk was first asked about why Angel
wasn't playing, she said it was a coach's decision. Later on,
she went on to say, hey, she's a part of
this team. We hope to have her back really soon.
Second time she was asked this question days later, she's like, Oh,
(20:57):
I think you guys think that you're entitled to an answer,
but I'm not gonna talk about it. I already said that.
So she's just pretty much avoiding the media questions around
Angel why Angel isn't playing, And honestly, I don't think
that that is what's helping in the way that she
thinks it is, because she followed up with saying, it's
my job to protect my players. It was a quote,
I'm going to protect my players. But I can't understand
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in this moment how that's protecting Angel, because Angel is
now being spun a narrative about between her grades, between
our personal endorsements within ill between her off season endeavors,
all of these things are now being placed on Angel
as if this is part of the reason that she's
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not playing, when that could or could not be true.
We don't know. And in terms of reporters being entitled, no,
it's called reporters doing a job. The job is to
report on the team, to know what the team is
doing and share that, and part of that means you
answering questions. So it's not about being entitled, simply about
doing my job, which is what this particular reporter was
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trying to do before Kim started going off on this.
I'm sick, but I refuse to get a COVID test, ma'am.
I'll send account DDY, get your girlment what is.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Going on to go?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I just want to start out by saying, Kim thrives
in the villain roll.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, like this is what she likes.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
She enjoys this, like we've seen multiple times she's been
on this side of media.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It doesn't bother. I've been in the locker room.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I've seen it all, and I'm just like, she's like Diddy,
I don't care about them. I'll let them think how
they want to think. That's how she says it, and
I'm like, all right, girl, But like I can't agree
more with the fact that there's no way so Kim
is really good about trying to protect her players keep
in locker room business, locker room business. But I don't
think she's understanding that this is a different era, Like
(22:59):
this is a social media driven area.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Your girl is one of.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
The most famous college basketball players ever, Like this isn't
protecting career by any means, Like this is actually like
really defacing her brand at this point. Like the things
that I see on Twitter when I open Twitter is like,
oh my gosh, Like Kim has got to say something,
like they're running with this, like running with the headlines
(23:24):
of what it could possibly be, or making stories and articles.
She has a million one point some million followers on Instagram,
Like Kim has to say something. This is her brand
at this point. So that's where I am in disagreeent
in disagreement to Kim. But like I was suspended from
it for a game or two and Kim never told anybody.
People still don't know why else suspend it for that game.
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Like I know that I knew that she was never
gonna say anything, and she probably will never say anything,
Like it's gonna take probably Angel coming back and playing
for Angel to speak up for herself. But I don't know,
And like I don't even know what this can be,
but I want it, Like Angel, bless her heart, Like
it's that is so much pressure, that is so much
like it's just so much going on like this, The
(24:05):
kids these days have so much more to carry on
their shoulders than we ever did. Like that is the
whole world either against you or for you, and you
just got to ride the wave with it type like
you gotta be such a different type of mental animal
to kind of take in whatever the world is putting out.
And Angel, for her to be so calm and to
tweet something like don't believe everything you read, it's like
(24:26):
that's so that's growth for her, and I want to
give her her flowers on that because we've seen Angel
talk herself into a hole and she is just sitting.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
There closing her mouth, taking it on the chin.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
And I'm really happy for her, like she has grown
whatever coaching she has gotten, I'm I'm obsessed with it,
and I want to talk to the person because I
love it, Chrit, I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I was gonna say I got a question for you, Chris,
but go ahead, go ahead. Well, I mean, like we
well because Steedee brought up a good point and it
was something that I was thinking of while she was talking.
Is because I know you and I have even on
social media talked about relations between players and just in general,
like we're getting players in IO money, we're putting them
(25:08):
in front of the press all the time, Like there
comes a time where at some point you do need
some type of PR training and I don't know that
schools are offering that. And I've recently said I think
that coaches need PR training too, to be honest, because
the stuff that they say at the podium is crazy.
But with that being said, Chris, I was just wondering
your opinion on would this scenario still be happening if
(25:33):
there was like if players were allowed to have like
a PR firm or a PR rep other than the
schools SID or other than what the school is able
to provide, Like, could you see the same scenario happening,
Because then He's right, it is her brand that is
on the line like at this moment.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I do think that's a really good question, and
we wouldn't be seeing this because Angel would feel more
empowered to speak up about what the issue is. However,
there's still a power and balance where kim Okey is
the head coach, right, she is the face of that
program with all the money she makes national titles. Injuries
(26:14):
is a big part of that, and she has made
Kim very rich, you know, and successful. But still it's like,
do I do this because if you decide to speak
out right and say what the reason is, that might
come to hurt you. I might come back to hurt
you because kim Ochi's gonna say, well, why you? Why A?
(26:38):
You're sharing our business. That's not how we roll. And
then she could get even in more trouble. So I
do think it would. When Diddy brought up the point
about how Angel tweeted out, don't believe everything you hear.
To me, yes, that was calm and measured, but it
also told me that she hates the narratives that are
(27:01):
being put out there about her. You have so many
people who are clowning her about her grades, saying that, yeah,
when she needs to put her name down on a test,
she's struggling. They are all these memes and jokes about oh,
she wasn't you know working hard during the summer. Yeah,
she literally played on Team USA in the summer, and
(27:22):
then the fame's going to her head. So that's what
really bothers me is she felt compelled, She felt she
had to say something to make sure that the narrative
was a little bit different. And then for Kim, you know,
to say to the reporter, Hey, it's like a family.
You know, if you discipline your child. Do you think
we're entitled to know? Well, that's a that's a false equivalency, right,
(27:45):
a false equivalent. The reporter family is not on public display.
They're not a national powerhouse. Kim Oki, Angel Reyes and
that squad they are. Yeah, so I didn't like that.
But I want to know, though, from your experience of
being coached by Kim Moki, how does something like this
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perhaps affect the locker room if at all? Because, as
you said, she don't care what the media says or
how they look at her. She's gonna do what she's
gonna do.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think this is what I think that this leads
to that question as well.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I feel like the gag is Angel and Kim are
on the same page because Kim is real, like she's
royal communicative, like she's gonna talk to you through everything,
Like whatever's going on, she's gonna come to the locker room,
it's gonna be a team meeting about it's gonna be
a single meeting by Especially if you're her leader, you
gotta think, but that's her lead, that's the person that
she's relied on. They probably incahoots the whole time. Like
there's times where people will be like, Dedie, what's going
(28:42):
on with your coach? And I knew exactly what she
was thinking, exactly how she was feeling. Like she just
is a walking controversy, like she just picks, doesn't know
what to say, how to say it, but it's how
she feels and that's unapologetically her, and essentially that's Angel,
unapologetically her.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So I feel like it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Doesn't do anything as of what's going on on social
media in the locker room. I feel like what's going
on in the locker room has everything to do with
whatever is going on in the locker room. Like I
don't think I has anything to do with this situation
or whatever we're reading about. I feel like if there's
something going on in the locker room, that is something
that's going on.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
In the locker room. I don't feel like it's connected
at all, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I feel like Kim does a really good job at
separating media and locker room. She's always done that, so
I don't really I don't believe that the media is
even crawling into the locker room making it uncomfortable. Now
could the NIL deals, could brands? Could all that be
a problem? I don't put that past any team, Like
this is a different era, Like I have no idea
(29:41):
what's going on in these locker rooms and how these
people are getting these deals, and how players are feeling
jealousy or undermining about certain deals. Like it's so much
that can go on right now that we have no idea.
So like I just feel like whatever when she says
they feel like they're entitled, I completely agree with Gut
that that is their job. So it's like whenever she
(30:01):
starts to figure that out, and this this new realm
of NIL and journalists, like you have the most famous
I don't know how many time we can say this,
you have the most famous college player in the world.
If you are being if your feathers literally are being
ruffled by a freaking reporter, you're gonna be You're I'm
(30:23):
shocked that they're not waiting outside they practiced them or
following her, Like this is the famous person at this
she's a celebrity, Like, what do you expect the people
to do? They're trying to figure out why this villa
isn't playing, what's going on with the LSU team?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So hey, LSU, I, y'all are my prayers for sure?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I just want y'all to know that if D thought
that we was just gonna let this slide, that I'm
about to rebring back up and she was totally wrong
because I totally covered d D in college. Why was
you suspending ground?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh he YoY a yo, hey, y know I was.
I was gonna ask the like, does I remember.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
This game when we was all meet girl? We was
all like, oh no, oh, what is what I told you?
I was at that twenty nineteen final four in Temple. Okay,
how's there? And I was like, listen, this is this
is great, this is amazing. Congratulations Kim, congratulations. Why did
he at the puffs going on?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It was yeah, I love the puff Yeah, the puffs
was the puffs.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It was pups was puffing. Okay, I'm saying we at
hindsight is twenty twenty. It's old now. You can't get
in trouble for it.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
She gonna slipper water right overhead. We ain't getting away
with that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That what you went you was out doing. Stop you
may have no business doing when you ain't make cuffew.
That's the nerdi lay that few.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Who I am.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't even know who that was back in the day.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't sorry this woman, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I will know what thing, Kim, go keep it under
the rug for me.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Let me go and find some old Baylor folks and
be like, at least you try what happened, Well, we
will be back.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah. I feel like we're getting a case of deja
vu from the Phoenix Suns, particularly surrounding Kevin Durant, because
he's been tearing up the league so far. However, his
boys I'm talking about Devin Booker and Bradley Beal have
(32:36):
not been able to stay on the floor together. We
have not seen this big three play together all year.
Durant has played thirteen games, Booker five and Bill three,
and Bill is going to be out for a few
weeks with a disc issue. Right, so there's some nerve
damage that sounds extremely serious. I say DejaVu because this
(33:03):
is a man and Kevin Durant, who had the same
issues with Kyrie Irving and James Harden when they were
in Brooklyn, whether it was Kyrie was out because of
the COVID mandate or injuries going you know, birthday parties,
or James Harden getting injured KD getting injured. So it
seems to me this is really a case of bad
(33:25):
luck for Kevin Durant, and at his age, at thirty five,
I'm not sure how much of a load he's going
to be able to carry if he has to keep
this up where his teammates are not reliable, and even
with him, he may get injured at some point. Of course,
we hope that doesn't happen, but that is the nature
(33:47):
of the game. And at this current time, right now,
right the Suns are in seventh place. They're seven and six.
You know, they have looked good at times, even though
sometimes they blew, you know, lately to the Spurs with
Wimby that first game. But I don't know how to
feel about it, because I do know how to feel
(34:07):
about it. We are getting the appetizer and then when
the time when it's time for the entree, the chef
is nowhere to be found, right because we're getting Katie
and Booker, Katie and Beal, but when it's time for
Katie be on Booker nothing. So I just wonder if
(34:28):
they're going to run into the same situation that the
next ran into, you know, a few years ago, where
they have this great cast, but the main guys are
not able to stay healthy. So, Tarika, where do you
stand on this matter? Because of course this is going
(34:49):
to drag out probably the entire season, especially given the
injury that Bradley Beal has.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, but you know what, I agree with you that
this is definitely looking like Brooklyn Part two, like for sure,
because as you mentioned, you're once again in a situation
with two other guys who you came or who you
expect to help you carry the load, and those guys
haven't been able to play that part.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I think the difference is between what happened in Brooklyn
and what is possibly going to happen in Phoenix is
that you got two people who want to play. You
got two people who want to actually be in the lineup.
Bradley Beal isn't, you know, trying to prove some point
or anything. He's literally injured to where he can't play,
(35:34):
But I am of the belief that if he was
not injured, he would actually want to be out there
on the court. Same with Devin Booker, and you're even
starting to see the difference he's been, you know, reinserted
into this lineup, and it's really been a game changer.
As a matter of fact, they're on a three game
win streak right now, and part of that is because
Booker's back. He's averaging nine point three assists per game.
(35:55):
So you can see them starting to spread the ballmorere
They're shooting as a team fifty three percent from the
field now that he's back, and you got Eric Gorton
and Grayson Allen who have really stepped up heavily for
this team. So I think that there is light at
the end of the tunnel when Bradley Beal returns, and
it really can't put them in a promise in place.
But there are other issues that Phoenix need to figure out.
(36:17):
Number one, why y'all don't play no defense? Hello? I
mean hello, you still letting teams put up one hundred
and twenty points on you figure that out, Phoenix, figure
that out. But all in all, I would say that
I think we're I think Durant is in a better
place than he was when he was going through this
(36:37):
similar situation in Brooklyn. It won't last as long, and
he definitely has people who want to play. Whereas you
don't know what was going on with James Harten, you
don't know what was going on with Kyrie Irvin. He
was too busy trying to prove a point set. Now,
mental health days, all this other stuff. I mean, listen,
I ain't hating on mental health, but you had a
(36:59):
lot out of days that you needed to take a break.
So yeah, I think that that's the difference. The teammates
who he's going through this with provide a different outlook
on basketball and their place in it than the teammates
that he had to go through this with in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
That's such a great point. That's such a great point.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
I literally was thinking that I don't know if I
agree if this is the same or if this isn't
like comparing the two, but I feel like, yes, I
feel like that's why I feel like it's not the same.
It's because he has a core group that really genuinely
is not really trying to go out of their way
to do something like they're not. This is not underlying
a bigger picture or anything. It's genuinely injuries. My only
(37:42):
problem as to why I feel like it also is
not the same is because I feel like, at the
end of the day, Kevin Durant knew what he was
getting into by choosing to go to Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And I say that because d.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Book deals with soft tissue injuries all the time, like
it's unfortunate, but it's like I've done that as well.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I've been dealing with my hand freeings forever.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You can control the healing and the time frame of
a soft tissue injury. So d Book in his ability
to be in and out of a lineup has been
something that we've all seen. We've seen it since his
whole career. And then on top of that, Bradley Bill
what the past four years has played the total I
mean at most sixty games like three years ago, and
there's eighty two games in a season. So like, I'm
not shocked that I'm sorry, but Bradley Bill is hurt,
(38:23):
Like that's not shocking to me, or that wasn't shocking
to me that the Book was hurt. So I feel
like this is now more so self inflicted on Kevin Durant,
whereas with the Brooklyn Nets, it was you didn't expect
Carrier Ivering to go out his way to try to
prove a point. You got to support him because he's
definitely somebody that's gonna speak his mind. You know that
about Kyrie Evon, But you didn't think that he was
gonna do all that for when the COVID thing happened,
(38:43):
you know. So in James Harden, I still don't understand
that trade to get rid of all the young players
that you get rid of For James Harden, I don't
understand that infatuation with the big three whenever you can
have a big two and a great supporting cast.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's just me and that's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But they did much Twitter don't know what's hard to
a girl.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Girl like I don't know what they was thinking doing that,
But that has nothing to do with me. And then
on top of that, Phoenix, I feel like Brooklyn it's
they didn't like the front office.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
The front office was a huge problem in Brooklyn. Out
Here in Phoenix. That's why I feel like him.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Durance in a better place as well, is that your
front office is doing whatever they can for you. They're
figuring it out and they're all on the same page.
They're all on the court, whereas I feel like the
people on the court and the people in the front
office was going against each other in Brooklyn and I
was in that exact same building. I feel like it
was just tension. Well, and I will walk into practice
and see them practicing like it didn't even feel like
a home there. So I don't think the same thing
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is going on in Phoenix, And that's why I feel
like this will be a little different. And there is
light at the end of the tunnel with Phoenix and
Kevin Duran. So I don't really want to say it's
bad luck. More so as I want to say that
is he knew what he was getting himself into. You
want to go Devin Booker and then later go acts
for Bradley Bell. Come on, you wanted to play by yourself? Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, for real? In and to that point, it's like
we've been saying it all show. We've said it in
previous shows. The West is stacked, like there no room
for mediocrity in the West, so you gotta bring your
a game. And I think just even having Devin Booker
back in the Phoenix lineup, just done so much for
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this Phoenix c like they were I want to say,
seventh or eighth the turnovers. Now that you've got d
book back, you got like a real point guard, someone
who knows how to control the ball, and they the
turnovers you've seen over these last couple of games have
started to decrease. So I think Kevin Durant is in
a better situation. But you're right, DD, like you knew
(40:40):
what you was doing when you came here. I actually
felt that way about KD for the last couple of
places that he's relocated. You knew that you what you
were doing, what you got there, You knew what was
at stake. You knew who you were playing with. It
certainly wasn't your first time playing with James Harden. You
knew what that train was.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Hold up, Hold up though, hold up, he played with
James Harden when they were babies in that beginning.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Your character trait. Sometimes character traits don't change. And the
problem with that is James Harten thinks that he's steal
that saying James Harten from Oklahoma City, and he's not.
So there's so that's neither your North there. But it's true,
so that's neither here North there. But listen, you have
got to essentially put yourself in a position to where
(41:27):
you don't I feel like as you get older as
a player, you want to put yourself in a position
to where you don't always have to be the guy.
And Kevinder continually puts themselves in a position where, regardless
of who he's playing with, he has to be the guy.
Even in Golden State. That's second championship. That was KD
bro like, like, it's what it is. So your third pictures,
(41:50):
I mean your mid thirties, you're now you balling.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
You want an MVP combo you ballin. Yeah, but at
some point, like you want to be able to put
yourself in a pot position to literally co play with
folks and not always feel like you have to be
the guy. And all Fortunately, Kevin Durant puts themselves in
these positions.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
So you know what you here, Yeah he knew he's doing,
but you know, or Chris.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Chris trying to find a way to stop tapping for
these me and Chris and he is what it is.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
It's not Kavin. What I'm gonna say, is I find
it hella ironic that ever since he left Golden State
he's running to these issues where when he went to
the Warriors, yes, he was the best player. The most
valuable player was probably Steph Curry because of all the
attention that they gave him in the playoffs. And then
(42:45):
you have to look at the injury situation with the
Warriors or with the teams that they went up against.
They were benefactors of a lot of teams getting injured,
whether it was k Love, you know, Kyrie Irving, or
whether it was Kawhi Leonard injury. They have been on
the right side of history in their run to becoming
(43:05):
a dynasty. The year they beat the Celtics, you know,
that was that was special that they just they were
flat out the better team. But my point is a
d leaving the Warriors has kind of put him on
this path where to your points, yeah, he's chosen to
be the guy when he could have stayed in Golden
(43:26):
State and they probably win a couple more titles. But
that old Draymond Green situation on the bench, like you
a bitch, we don't need you, we want that kind
of escalated.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Hold hold up, it ain't no bitch, I ain't saying that,
Like no, but I'm saying like they did win titles
without them, Like what's he wrong?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
No, no, don't talk about in front of Tito. She
gonna go off about.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's not Draymond is from Michigan. He is a Michigan
State spartan. That's two of two. I don't even need
a three. Were not doing it. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I feel. I feel whenever Tarika hears somebody talking about Draymond,
like her ears percuption, what do you say? What you
say about sagon ha, don't do that?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
What don't do that?
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I can't understand it though, I really it's so many
people that love Draymond. They're like, I'm so used to this.
Why do people love this man like this? But I
don't even want to get into no Draymond.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Talk someone, Yeah, we Draymond talk on this show on
this episode, Like my mats was about to be crazy.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I'm playing y'all before y'all come ay on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Relax, they'll they'll get over it. They'll get over it.
But were about to we about to have to break.
On the other side, we got a nice little game
for y'all. And uh yeah, stay tuned, baby, we got greens, beans, potatoes, tomatoes,
your name, we got green potatoes, you name. God know
(45:04):
what it is. It is the Thanksgiving edition of Start,
bench and Cut. And here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna give different categories. We're gonna start benching cut. So
we got meats, veggies, the carbs, desserts, and the desserts
number two. We started off with the meats portion. This
(45:24):
ain't our beast, by the way, okay, turkey, ham, and
fried chicken. I'm just saying we have the meat for me.
I'm starting honey baked ham, I'm benching turkey, and then
cutting fried chicken.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Whoa wrong answer?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
We wait? Hold up, hold up, hold up, no, no, no,
let me let me run that back. Let me run
it back. I'm starting ham because I love some honey
baked ham. I'm benching fried chicken. Then we're gonna cut
turkey because sometimes the turk the turkey dry. So mm hmm, yeah,
that's what I'm doing. What you doing?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Okay, so I should the correct answer should go second.
I agree.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
So what I'm going to start is fried chicken, because
who's not starting fried chicken, and then I'm gonna bench. Hell,
they're both really if I could cut both, could I
would cut both.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I'm not eating the hambro the turkey. So like I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna say, bench the ham, cut the turkey.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Period, I'm starting my answer, cutting Deiti's answer and bench
the answer now. So I'm starting turkey. But here's the thing.
Turkey doesn't necessarily mean like the actual bird because we
eat turkey, weings, turkey wings, Turkey drives with the gravy
on it.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
So I just saw that on TikTok. I said, I
can probably get into that.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yes, we don't necessarily have like turkey turkey. So I'm
starting a turkey. I'm benching the ham. I love honey
baked ham. We gonna we might bring it later. I'm
definitely cutting fried chicken on Thanksgiving, fried chicken every other
day of the week. So on Thanksgiving, you're not the
star today. Well that's that's me.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
I just really don't like turkey nor ham. So I'm
always the girl that has no meat on her plate
during Thanksgiving. It's a whole bunch of sides and bread.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Sometimes that's all you need. All Chris we got veggie,
so we got greens. Green bean castle on broccoli now
Tarika's face. So I'm starting greens for sure. Leve me
some collar greens if it's done right, kids, Okay, thank you,
(47:48):
d you better agree here too. We cutting the hell
out of green bean castle. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Nobody got time for that. Okay, and then we bench
and brock I love me some broccoli, so we got
we all agreement there on an agreement with the veggies.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Honestly, I wanted like broccoli and rice casserole instead of broccoli.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
I love you some broccoli and rice cancer.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I hear the actually coming out. I love me some
right broccoli. Yeah, my daddy, this is.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
My favorite part, y'all. This next category is my favorite
period carb side.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
This is what everybody came to see. This is these
are the m v p s right, yes, mac and cheese,
stuffing or dressing, however you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's not whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
They are not the same.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Stopping and stopping.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's what our producer y'all said. So this is our okay,
candy yams, hey man, he'll be all right, y'all gonna
be all right or candy yams right. So for me,
it's starting mac and cheese and then we're gonna bench
(49:17):
candy yams. I love me some yams. It's getting feisty
and cutting stuffy. I don't. I don't miss stuffing whatsoever. Yeah,
don't care for it.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
I don't hate this lineup, Chris Man, I don't hate
the lineup, Okay. I think I go back and forth
between yams and mac depending upon which untea make the
mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
So like if my aunt Tydanca make the mac and
cheese first, okay, period, I'm just starting mac and cheese.
It don't make it.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
The candy jam is first, aus b Nana makes it
every time, and she gonna put her foot in there
every time. So I'm gonna just say, because my nanna
ain't never fell off, start candy ms, bench mac and
cheese and cut the stuff in puree.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I want to put tree and that ddy on, Okay,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I don't want the same train that dy on. Except
if this was dressing overtop it, we might had a
different out come. Because see, for those who don't know
stocking is what you actually pull out of the turkey.
So when people put the turkey, the dressing in the
turkey and you pull the then you pull the breaded
(50:35):
stuff out. That's that's where the name comes from. Dressing
is made in the oven. So you make that in
the bowl. You mix all with your bread, your sage,
your salt, pepper, your onion, break up your corn bread
and all that. Know that you ain't got your little gravy,
little salt, little little woo, little boil water, little chicken broth,
all of that up in there because your girl can cook. Okay,
(50:57):
add all that up in there, and you put that
in the it. And when you pull that out and
it's all nice and readed in the little pan and
the little in it's all brown. At the top dash dressing. Baby,
that right there is top tiars.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
That's the one you put cranberry sauce on.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
That is come out.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
You would put some cranberry sauce and some gravy on
that thing. Let me tell you, I don't know if
I could cut that, So I had to make sure
we had to differentiate.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
If this.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Or stuffing, that's where I would wanted to go. Then
we cutting that thing that's the pout of there. I'm
going to say mac and cheese is gonna start for me,
although depending on who makes the mac and cheese, some
people mac and cheese ain't starting in nobody's lineup, So
there's that. So I mean, I need to know who's
(51:46):
making the mac and cheese. But I'm gonna go on
the wheel and say we start the mac bench the
ms cut the stuffing.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Do you like your mac and cheese like five cheese?
I need all the cheeses you like to be brown
and crispy.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Right, it's got to be crispy like the top could
be christy. Yes, when you cut into wheat got.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
My mouth is watering And I'm.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Telling you I want mac and cheese right now.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
Hey, I ain't gonna lie if y'all cooking, and y'all
want to shift some over to Sitdney, austral I just
sent my address.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
I gotcha.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah that x.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
You say your auntie right Deanka?
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Oh my gosh, yes, she just got married all on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Shout out married grad Congratulations. Why are you celebrated? Could
you bless us with some of that maca cheese?
Speaker 5 (52:40):
I see you can make the mac and cheese. The
whole family be run into the kitchen. Yes, but she
would have put something for me on the side, because
I am the family's favorite.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
But no one wants to say that.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I can believe that you would say that. You would
say that. Okay, next that we got breads, Hawaiian rolls.
Shoot men, do it again, all right? Next up, we
got the breads, Hawaiian rolls, biscuits, corn bread. Now for me,
(53:16):
I love me some good ass Hawaiian rolls, So I'm
may I'm going to start that and then corn bread.
I'm going to bingch Yeah, biscuits they're gonna have to
get cut. I don't think about biscuits for Thanksgiving. Really,
(53:37):
it's just not something that comes to mind. But give
me some good corn bread and those Hawaiian rolls. I
would eat those for breakfast for like her whole meal
if I could. But I'm trying to watch my you know,
my weight and get my body right. So you know
that's the.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Literally, I'm a bread girl, y'all. I'm a bread gal.
And I said all the time, like anything, tortilla, peter, bread, anything,
I'm gonna eat it. So this is another one of
my favorite sections of this part. So I'm seriously but
because we have Hawaiian rolls year round and I eat
(54:16):
those all the time, I'm gonna bench them for now.
But I feel so disrespectful to the high and row guidance. Okay,
Hawaiian row, I am sorry, but I'm gonna have to
start my memo. Cornbread.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh, y'all.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
I'm getting so excited about Thanksgiving and I'm not even
gonna be there, but I gonna have to bench biscuits
because that's not like a breakfast food to me, like
I want to put some syrup on it.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
I don't know why, butter and syrup. I don't want
that for Thanksgiving. But mommilged cornbread, y'all. I just can't
stop thinking about that. I can't believe you'll are doing
this to me. I'm not even gonna beat everything giving
you now. I have to talk about the food that
I want to start.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Because our producers are cruel. Our producers are yes, cool,
they are cool, Okay, if it makes you feel any better.
My husband's a chef. He has to work on Thanksgiving,
so I will be spending Thanksgiving for twelve hours alone
because I live in Connecticut, and I ain't got no
family here. Oh no, I'm gonna eat though, I'm gonna
eat tho.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
I just gotta year round. You got a chef for
a husband.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
He don't cook me ship because he worked so dash?
Will we all die any anything up? And yeah, this stoven,
this kitchen is quick. Do you hear me?
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yo he yo?
Speaker 1 (55:42):
In my mind I saw that going differently, yo.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Mind you No, that's how you get That's how you
get you. He cooked you, the fool when he gets you.
And then once he got you, when he gotta work
twelve hours a day, you're ordering door dance. So all
y'all folks are talking about cheesecake back three? Will we
eating the ship out some cheese apat three year? Okay?
Because I ain't no nobody good? But to your back
to the back to the bitch starting bench cutting, we
(56:06):
starting cornbread, We are benching biscuits, and I am cutting
Hawaiian rolls. But it's to the point you made. I
can get Haryan rolls anytime, like you know, but and
it's got to be homemade biscuits, like it can't be
like you know, some random popped out of the thing,
biscuits like my mom. My mom makes like homemade yeast
(56:27):
biscuits at the bar.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Okay, all right, that's because I was thinking Pillsbury for show.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yes, Pillsbury, or give me some shaar Bay biscuits, red lobster. Right, Yeah,
that's my favorite part.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
It's my favorite partners.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
She's talking about desserts. People starting off with number one
dessert pecan, apple or sweet potato. So for me, I
me some apple pie with some caramel sauce in the
whipped cream. Oh my goodness is just so suckulent. Right ah,
(57:08):
So we're gonna start that. Then let me some pecan.
You gotta have the pecan if it's done right, not
too It's not overly sweet, but just enough, and it's sweet.
Potato is cool. But again I'm not I'm not too
excited about it. So that's gonna be cut. So yeah,
(57:30):
start apple bench, pecan, sweet potato, see you later.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
I just broke my heart. I can't lie.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
I literally I'm gonna put pecan pie. I'm starting it
because my Dana, she puts her foot in that too.
It's the canny answer, the pecan pie and nana guy
have it.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Pecan pie.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
One second sweet potato pie because my memm is gonna
do it. Okay, She's gonna do some sweet potato pie.
Everybody that comes to the house be like, is me
whon cooking? Is me whal making the sweet potato pies?
Making the corn bread?
Speaker 3 (58:07):
They got that, they got that for them. But I'm
gonna have to cut apple pie.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
And never been an apple pie unless it's the one
from Popeye's or McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
In the little thing.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
What Jesus look the look for the first to say
apple pie from McDonald's. I used to kill that amazing
in high school. But compared to the homemait, well, I
just don't.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
Think I've ever tried it either.
Speaker 5 (58:34):
If I'm being completely honest, I have never just that
slice of apple pie and eaten.
Speaker 3 (58:40):
And it's like I've always gotten it for McDonald's or Popeyes.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
I cannot believe I'm hearing this. This is a revelation, folks.
We will have to get some real apple pie because
this is is that what we're gonna do. We're gonna
get ds some real apple pie. This is tough for me, guys.
I love the desserts, okay, but there are two things
(59:04):
that I noticed I noticed one. I clearly am from
Detroit because y'all say pecan, I say pecan.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
So there, I knew somebody's gonna say. I knew somebody gonna.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Say, folks. Okay, So here's the thing. The thing for
me is and I'm gonna try to make this quick. Okay.
Apple pie is my third favorite dessert ever, so like
in a hierarchy of desserts, it's kilan pie, cheesecake, apple pie,
like those are my top three ever. Like ever, however,
(59:37):
Thanksgiving is its own season, so there are certain things
that I can allow Thanksgiving that I probably wouldn't any
other time. Thanksgiving, I'm saying I would probably start sweet
but seta pie, I would probably bench pecan pie, and
(59:59):
I would have to to cut unwillingly apple pie only
because it's Thanksgiving. Other like, like, this is the only
season where I'm really gonna eat sweet potato pie and
pecan pie like any other season of the world. Apple
pie is third. Don't ask me, don't question, like this
is with it this period and it is what it is.
(01:00:22):
But in this season, I'm starting sleep potato, I'm benching pecan,
and I'm cutting apple.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Okay, Now I was about to ride you there and
give you a lot of hell for that. But you
got what you needed to do because I said it's
for Thanksgiving only, Thanksgiving only, Thanksgiving only, so you're good
in my book. Now that's it, all right. We got
one more dessert category, carrot cake, pumpkin pie, banana pudding,
and let me tell y'all, banana pudding. My sister in
(01:00:50):
law makes some of the best banana pudding I've ever had,
So that's number one. We start in that joint. Carrot cake.
I know a lot of people hate it. They think
it's disgusting. I'm gonna those weirdos who enjoys it. So
we're going to bench it and then pumpkin pie. Again,
it doesn't move the needle for me. It does not
move the needle for me. It doesn't matter who makes it.
(01:01:11):
So pumpkin pie, you can get your ass out of there.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, honestly, I can keep this one short. I'm cutting
all three.
Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I don't want either one of them. I do not
want neither one of them. Well, apparently makes really good
banana pudding, so I hear, but I'm allergic to bananas
by choice. I forget to tell people that I don't
like bananas allergic by choice.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I wish you Chris. I wish you Chris to clear
the air about pumpkin pie. I actually don't think pumpkin
pie is gross. I think pumpkin pie is okay, but
I'm not picking it first like all these other folks,
like they're like, oh, it's pumpkin plot. No, it's not
like it's the bottom tier of pies, like it's edible. Sure, yeah,
they are, sure, but like, I ain't choosing pumpkin pie
(01:01:57):
over the Sweet Tata pie apple pie pee. Like, no way,
there's no way anyone's doing that. Is not truly a
dessert tear. I don't know if that's a word, but
I've made it up.
Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
It sounds great. It needs to be at the urban
diction should be.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I am a dessert tear and we are not eating
I first.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I'm sorry, you say key lime pie and I'm not
here for it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Hold up, now, let's not disrespect pie. That's how we
know we need to end this episode because you don't
lost your mind. Need Richard respect lost pie? Yes, key
line pie.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
And when I see it, it just gives mint chocolate chip.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Okay, all right, Okay, so what you know. I was
gonna wish both of y'all Happy Thanksgiving, but now I'm
only going to wish to Rika Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Happy Chris.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Hey, this is what happened with you don't get her nap.
I can't get her nap.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I need the happy Thanksgiving. Please, I don't even celebrate
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Okay, Happy Thanksgiving. D There you go, and we want
to wish everybody out there who's listening or watching this
episode happy Thanksgiving. Hope you're able to spend it with
your loved ones and able to soak up those moments
and not take them for granted. And make sure y'all
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