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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nine Genee with Jenny Garth and Tori spelling. So
we've decided you guys to do a special thing. It's
called nine oh to one on one. See how we
did that to one on one? Get it. And we're
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gonna do these from time to time where we interview
some of our guest stars that we've had over the years.
So today we are going to be talking with the
one and only Dean Kane, who you may remember as
reek may remember who is ever going to present Dean
Caine maybe remember, mrs and Tori is off. That's why
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Tori isn't here, and we didn't want to do a
recap episode without her. Can't do it without her. Yeah,
So we decided to do this special episode which I'm like,
I gotta get myself together because I'm so excited about this.
I don't I gotta, I gotta get some together. I'm
gonna like, sin you please pull yourself together, Amy, because
we're I apologizing in fance. I'm afraid of an embarrassing
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like I'm super excited to talk to him. All right,
let's do it. Hi, de Hi, Jenny, I'm wonderful. How
are you doing? I'm doing good? You look fantastic. Look
at you, Look at you? What you got? You got
me today we don't have Tori, but you have a
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bonus and Sugarman is with us today. Yeah, yeah, I
got I got the good day A big fan. I'm
not gonna lie. I was doing my research on you
last night, getting ready for this, and all of a sudden,
I'm like, I've been watching YouTube videos of Deep Cane
becoming Superman for an hour and a half, Like, yes,
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he's really people have really gone crazy with that, Like
there are compilations so that it's like here comes Clark
Ken turning into Superman. Here he goes again, Here it
goes again. And then I forgot that episod zone where
Martha makes your Superman costumes. The pilot episode, I mean
two hours went by. I was like, I'm so still watching.
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Nine year old still hasn't watched the whole series. Wait,
you are you have a twenty one year old daughter? Boy? Boy,
why I don't think you had a daughter. I'll tell
you why. I think you had a daughter because I
was watching a Christmas movie and daughter was perfect. And
you fell in love with the caw that ran the
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ski slopes there and that was Christie Swanson. Of course
I just watched that this year. Those are so much
fun to make, aren't they They are. They're wonderful to make,
They're wonderful to see. And when you have kids, your
kid can be on set, and my kid was on
that set. Between the two of you, how many have
you both done? Like I got about fifteen? No, you listen,
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let's just tell everyone for a second. I was a
little digging on you. And you've been working consistently since
nineteen seventy that's that's that's I was ten years old.
Now I've blown that on my parents though. My dad
was a filmmaker, so director, so I was just I was,
you know, throw his body in there, have him do this.
We need somebody to say this. I mean, you work.
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You've done something every single year since nineteen seventy six.
I've never met another actor that's every single year. Well,
it's not stopping now, that's for dang. Sure you're man,
You're it's great. I'm happy this can be. I'm in
Las Vegas at my parents house. It's so beautiful. They
have such a like actual mom's mom's fancy fancy Well,
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I think I love about you dinas you're also a host,
because so I booked K T l A also, and
you're literally like you might as well work there because
we have step in for a few and I was
hosting Today's show, and I was hosting Fox News as well.
So I'm comfortable doing all those things. There's no question.
It takes a little getting used to, for sure. But
you know now I still host like two things on
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three things on the c W, mash inclusion and other things.
And so listen, Jack of all trades masters, there's nothing
you can't do. You've played I was counting you've played
up about seven priests. I don't know if you know this.
How many I'll ask you hold on seven priests, one
archangel and one high priest, just to be clear. And
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then how many like detective cops? Do you think you've played?
Probably played eleven cops to tell less more? Yeah, keep going.
Twenty nineteen deeply smokes you know, real life, real life
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a sworn sheriff's deputy. No you are? Yeah? Oh so
you could arrest us right now? I could you have
to do something illegal? But are you superman? Well, I've
got some interesting moments where that's come up um, which
was kind of funny, you know, UM from some firefighters
on one thing. It wasn't even a call that I
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was on. I'm I'm a sheriff's deputy in Virginia, UH
in Frederick County, Virginia, and I'm a reserve police officer
in Pocatello, Idaho. But the stuff that I've done where
people have recognized me was stuff that I've done as
a citizen, where like things have gone wrong on the
road and I sort of stepped in and and had
to do stuff. And then with this one incident on
the one on one freeway where a guy was crashing
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into the center divider, stopped and everybody was just kind
of driving around him. He was having a seizure. Turned
out I I stopped and gut out of the car,
had like turn off his car and put it in
park and he was having a seizure. Had to keep
him back. And UM there was an E R nurse
that stopped and traffic going both ways, but people weren't
stopping for him. So we're in the middle lanes and
I'm jumping the divider because he finally starts coming to
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then he wants to get combative. Who wants to drive
his car away, and then I had to take his keys,
and then we ended up like wrestling on the ground
and then he cocked up and uh and on the
one oh one, on the one oh one, and then
the Papa Razzi show up. No, no, not a word. Lucky.
I did my job. But then the firefighters were walking
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back and the fire cabinetors, hey, Superman. I was like, no, man,
you guys are Superman. It was great. Well, what's weird
is I was thinking about this. I think when I
picture Scott Peterson, I'm picturing you. It's great. I was
thinking about that because I'm like, I don't know, you know,
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like I haven't seen Scott Peterson that many times, but
I've seen that movie but me times so, especially when
you dyed the hair and you're like making the run
for the border. I think, in my mind, I think
I picture you, but I think it's him. It's like,
that's weird. I say that like if I ever meet
a woman and she's like, I love you, I Scott Peterson,
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I know, do not date that woman. Flags red flags,
red flags everywhere. Ye Like, that was amazing. You really
became him. That was like crazy, you know what's weird
is that I try to turn that down. I did
turn it down like four or five times, and Jenny,
you know this game, and like you turn it down
four times, they come back higher and higher, and the
more they want you, the more they want you. Finally,
my dad, who's a director, I was talking to him
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and I said, they keep offering me this perfect husband
thing and they play Scott Peterson and he's like yeah,
and I keep saying no, and he goes, well, could
you be good in it? Yeah? And I said, yeah,
I think I would be really good. You are super creepy. Yes?
Are you an actor? I was like, yes, sir. He's like,
didn't go to work? Shut up? Yeah? Why not? Because
Rob Low played that other one that I think I
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picture Rob Low. That was crazy too. Those were I've
watched this over and over there all all right, Well,
I grew up with Rob. I grew up with Rob
since we were little kids too, so who knew we'd
both be serial killers? But he's never been a superhero
we're supposed to be talking about. But I could go
for those on all the other things. I'll talk about
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anything that's a good thing about you. You're so like
down to earth and just personally I love that about you.
Thank you well. I don't understand how it could be
any different. I don't understand if only you were handsome,
If only you were handsome, you'd have it all work
on that. There's something about that, would you? Wait? So
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let's talk about so you popped onto the scene in
season three, as I like to call it Greek? Was
that season three? Yes? Wow? Three? And you were only
on for four episodes? Was it? I think? So we've
seen three, We've rewatched three of them, watching the one. No,
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not the video store one. Yet I still have a
problem with that one. I have a bone to pick
with it. We want to hear everything. Oh my gosh, okay,
so tell us what was it like when you when
you came on the show where you did you know
about before you started it? Or did you what happened?
How did you get the part? You know? For me?
Straight up? I mean I I was a fan of
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the show. It was like the biggest show in the
world at the time. Um, I had grown up, you know,
around the film industry, so I knew so many kids.
There goes my dad, my dad, he's ignoring So I
grew up in the film industry around you know, Chris Penn,
Sean Penn, Roblo, Charlie Sheen. These are all kids that
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I grew up with um and my dad's a director,
So I was you know, the idea of like a
show being too big for me was not a thing
because I was I knew it was a show, but
it was like sort of my first It was my
third guest starring role. It was so big and wonderful,
and I was super excited um to do it. But
my stuff for the first I think the first three
episodes was it we're in quote Paris. Yeah. First of all,
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I thought we were all excited, They're like, no Universal
back lot. I was like, what streets in Universal? Oh
the appointment. But it looked real good. It looked fantastic.
It looked fantastic. I remember Shannon hated having to do
the fake French accent. She did not like that at all.
And everybody still to this day, I kid you, not
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anybody who's a nine or two long fan calls me.
I was, That's that's true. But you know, it was
wonderful and I learned a lot of things on that show,
especially when I came in to like do the episode
where I was finally around all the rest of you
guys that's coming to watch, and I think about three weeks.
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Should I talk about that now or now? Of course? Yes. Well,
the thing I want to say about it is I
learned one of the most important lessons I've ever learned
in this business. And I learned it from Luke. So
I walked in and I hadn't worked with anybody else
except for Shannon, so everybody else was I hadn't been there, that,
the peach pit, all that. I hadn't seen those things.
I was like, oh my god, here it is. Here's
the stuff. And Luke comes in and I see him.
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He saw me, and he comes over. He just be
alignes to me and he comes over and he goes, hey, Dean,
I just want to say thank you so much for
being on the show. I love what you're doing. It's
so great. It's making a show better. I just really
appreciate you being here. And I was like, wow, that's
that's I feel very welcome. That's a very nice thing.
So I've done that on every show that I've ever had.
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Whenever there's a guest star, I go to them. I
thank them for being there and working with us and
doing that and I and I realized how important that
is for someone coming on, especially a new guest actor
who might be nervous or excited or whatever happens to be.
So I've done that every single time, and God bless me.
I love that. I love that you've carried that into
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your life. Now, who was mean to you? Just kidding this?
Nobody was mean to me. Yeah, you go along with everyone. Yeah,
I got along with them. I tend to do that.
I don't really have I mean, I'm not there. I
don't I don't look to create waves. I mean, I'll
give my opinion. We know that's true on certain things,
whether it's politics or whatever happens to be. But I
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also can disagree with somebody and still have a great
time with them. And that's sort of sadly missing, I
think in in our society a little bit. Right now,
I think I just said a little just so, how
was your overall experience? Do you remember meeting Jenny? Of
course I do, and hello crush so um, Yes, I
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remember meeting her very much. So I remember meeting everybody.
It was wonderful and I just tried to, you know,
because I had grown up on sets. I just wanted
to get out of everybody's way, let everybody do their thing,
and I would sit there. But what they did to
me in that fourth episode, talk about it, I don't
have any idea what I do. I do. So I
was a guy who's supposed to me from Wisconsin, who
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was in college, and he runs and he thinks she's
a French girl. Channon's a French girl, and and uh
so he meets her and falls in love with his
French girl kind of the thing. And so that's all
wonderful and great, and we're doing all that stuff, and
then they like sort of want to have a finish
to it because she left, you know, and there was
nothing there, like, hey, we want to sort of wrap
this up. So well, they were gonna bring me in,
and the idea was I was my character was supposed
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to come in run into her. He's at U C
l A. And he runs into her and realizes she
lies and lie, had lied about everything, and he was
supposed to break up with her, and that's how it
was supposed to go. I remember, bless her. She goes,
she says she she didn't like that, and she goes,
I can't have I guess Dart can't come in and
break up with me, And so it had to be
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me who got dumped by her, all right. I still
tease her about that today. UM so if they instead
of me coming back having seeing her and figuring out
it was all line and then breaking up with her,
which was I was very comfortable with. Suddenly I get
this script and I was like, what I remember? My
eyes just popping open. My character decides he's gonna try
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to make a run at it with her, forgives her
for a line, goes over to her house with her
parents and just starts with dad sitting there playing and singing.
I don't sing, and he starts singing Great Balls of Fire,
and she read that I'm dating my dad, and so
she dumps me. I read that I went as white
as a ghost. That is harsh because I literally cannot sing,
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and I was just like, what are they doing to me?
And uh, I wasn't in a position to go, hey, listen, no,
we're gonna have to fix this. Let's work this around here,
let's change things up. They weren't. That wasn't happening. See
I want to know from both of you. Do you
think the story would have been better the original way?
I do? I do you mean if Rick broke up
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with Brenda? Yeah, Matt would have been kind of a
neat little come up and a little thing. Yeah you play.
I think that would have been better. That's me, But
that's also because I didn't want to sing. So we
definitely need to do a poll on that. We need
to you do you think that if if Dylan were
in the picture, that Reek would have stuck around with
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Brenda if he was in the picture. As far as
like a like a little threesome kind of situation going on,
I don't think. I don't love triangle. That's exactly what
we're interpreting the triangle, the love triangle for me, because yes,
I was incorrect, not a threesome. Yes, I love triangle.
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I don't think Rick would have gone for the love
triangle when you when you signed on, was it for
four episodes or was their potential for more? Well? I
think I think I only signed on for the three
episodes and the fourth one they added, Wow, So you
were really supposed to just be left in Paris? I
think so. As I recall Um. And it's funny because
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I've been Mr Spelling has his group of actors used
to have come in all the time, and I was
doing that. I was in his little stable of you know,
Spelling actors coming in. And right after that, probably that
same year, Um, I got cast of Superman. Was too
happy about that one I got you got out of
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the stable. One of his horses got out of the stable. Yeah,
and he was like, I heard there was a little
bit of hell to pay for that one. Really, Yeah,
I heard that, but I don't know if it's true.
It's one of those things you go. He was always
so gracious and wonderful to me. Um. So I have
nothing but the greatest things to say about him. So,
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so you're saying that the same year you went from
doing the biggest show being a Beverly Hills down went
out and then you got this role that changed your
life forever. And it really was the nine O, two
and O that did it. Um. It really was just
because the visibility on that show was so massive and
what had happened. I guess Melrose Place was starting to
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get cast as well. So there's all those things going on.
They were talking about me coming in from Melrose Place,
but I was saying I couldn't go in at the time.
I wasn't available when they wanted to do it. And
Andrew Shoe, who was a great friend of mine, who
became a great friend of mine. He went to Dartmouth,
I went to Princeton. We're ivy buddies, whatever you want.
But um, he got to you know, he did a
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role there, a bunch of people that I knew were
doing things. It was great. But I think somewhere in
there is about when what's what year was season three
of nine o two and oh it was either ninety
two or yeah, right about ninety two, because you're you've
got the timeline totally right. They were because they just
launched Melrose Place at this same time and then boom,
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I had Superman. And the funny thing about Superman is
that I was twenty six when I was cast. Um,
and you know, even when I was on nine two
and oh, I was, I was a lot older. I
was actually I might have been younger than some of
the people who are playing. Well we didn't know that
at the time, but yeah, now we know a little younger.
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But uh, yeah, so it was twenty six got Superman
and uh and then it was a run from there's
fantastic and wonderful. But how did how did that without?
How did yeah? How did that time playing Clark Kent
of all the characters? How did that? Just like, I
don't know, impact your career. I mean, it's impacted my
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entire life. And I was just down with my parents,
grabbing a quick bite to eat down here, and there
was a somebody who's a young candidate running for Congress
here and we're in Las Vegas, um and I live
in California, but I'm here working and visiting my troop,
my folks in between, and there was a young candidate
running for Congress, and there was this whole gaggle of
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ladies who were there to help him run for Congress,
And they said, aren't you so and so? You're a
Superman guy. It never ever leaves you. It's always there.
It's there's when I'm a police officer, it's there when
I fight with a guy in the middle of the
one on one. It happens all the time. I play sports.
You imagine who playing basketball against somebody and somebody swatch
your shots? Take that Superman. I mean, well, Jenny has
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the same experience. It is so fast, sinating, and Jenny,
you can touch on that because even thirty years later,
you should see on our Instagram right now how pissed
people are that we're Team Kelly and not Team Brent.
And it's been I mean, she can probably relate. I mean,
you talk about that, like, but wait, but I have
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such a great appreciation for it. I'm sure you did too.
It sounds like you do like that character, that role.
That job changed the trajectory of your life and all
for the better. Like you are where you are today
because of that role, and I feel the same way,
and I don't try to run away from the role.
You hear all those things. People talk about that and
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people like you played Superman. Yeah, but it's not like
I haven't worked since. Yeah, you've played You've played like
a lot a lot of other roles. But yeah, that's
the thing. Maybe if I hadn't done anything else and
I couldn't escape it or whatever. But I mean, to
be associated with Superman, to be called Superman, I mean,
they called a lot of things, and Superman is not
the worst of it, right, So if I can call that,
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I mean, it's okay. I'll take it. I think it
was like some amazing casting. I love hearing how nine
O two and oh did you do? Give that show
some credit? What happened? Like? Did they see that? Did
it elevate you? Like what happened there? I'm sure it
elevated me a lot in the eyes of casting directors
and producers and stuff who are casting things, and they say,
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once they see you know, once you're on screen with
somebody who is of a certain popularity, and Shannon certainly was,
and the whole cast and nine O two and oh,
and the show was so visible that you become a
viable commodity in that sense. And so what it happened is,
um I came up to pilot season, which we used
to have, um I was I was offered to test
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for four different pilots or five different pilots. It all
came piling in right after nine O two and oh
Superman was six on the air, and it was the
biggest of the bunch. So I put it in first position.
They allowed me to test for other ones and second
and third possession position, which is they don't rarely do
that either. But they had to tell me we cast
it on a Wednesday. They had to tell me on
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a Thursday. We went to network on a Wednesday. They
had to tell me thursday whether I had the job
or not, or else I was gonna test or something else.
And they told me on Thursday, And uh, I was
beside myself, but um also terrified because now I have
to carry a show. What if people don't like me
a Superman? You know, all those things run through your head.
And it wasn't an ensemble. It was two people, and
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I'm a very very important character, and I thought, man,
you know, I hope I can pull this off. I
hope I'm likable as the character I caught. There were
things that after I was doing the show for a while, Um,
I'm a quarter Japanese and somebody was like, we wanted Superman,
not Sushi Man. No, my brother send that to me
and we laughed for we still laugh today. Don't have
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that stuff. None of that stuff hurts my feelings. You
were when you're on camera, you're just your your target.
People are gonna critique you and do that. And I
grew up knowing that. My dad would always tell me
that's gonna happen, So I kind of pushed that to
the side. But but playing that role was and you
were sort of the first Superman after Christopher Reeve, right,
So that really was like a really big shoes to tell. Well.
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It's also there were no superhero shows on television. It's
not not. Now you turned, every other channel's got a
superhero show. There was nothing on the on TV. I
even thought to myself, I'm like, how are they gonna
pull off the special effects on a TV budget? I mean,
you're not. It's gonna look terrible. When I read the
script and I realized it was a relationship show and
a romantic comedy in a sense, and the physicality of
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it great. You know, I was a pro football player.
I was like, let's go, let's be as physical whatever
we can do great And that was wonderful fun. It
was great that I was an athlete to play that
role because you needed to be. Um. It was a
very physically demanding role. But more than that, it's the
time spent on set and eighteen hours a day, five
days a week, nine and a half months a year.
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I try to tell people and they go, now, okay,
I'm like, yeah, is that what you guys were too, Jenny, Yeah,
I mean that those long days, especially episodic like that
twenty two episodes. I mean, it's a lot, it's a lot.
It's sense did four four seasons. Wow, I love that show.
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Do you remember being on the cover of TV Guide
with me? Yes? Best Dress? Yes, something about the way
we were we had that, We had that the other day?
Did Randy have it? And a Randy uh pulled it
out of somewhere like that showed me I was psyched
again because I might have had one second long time. Yes,
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he's going to get it. I might have had a
little crushed instead of be able to be on the
Best Dressed cover with you. Was was loved. Why didn't
you ask her out? Or did she have a husband?
I think she had a husband. I think she might
have she's I think I've been married forever. I've been
married or having a baby my entire adult life. So
I feel like this is a great time to ask
this question for everyone listening. Do you have a wife? Oh, ladies?
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Oh no, And if I met the right woman, I'd
marry her tomorrow. Slide into the d M. Ladies like,
so you you want to get you want to get married.
I'd love to. I'd love to have a partner. You know,
I raised my son on my own. I did it
with more of an adversary, and when he was not,
I handed up with full custody everything. That was a nasty,
awful thing to have to go through fighting for joint custody.
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And I my son's mother calls me the best father
she's ever seen in her lifetime. Now in fact, I'm
godfather to her eleven year old. Yeah. Wow, there's hope.
There's hope for everyone out there. But I just, uh,
I just haven't met that woman at the right time.
And uh, you know, you've got some We've got some
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options for you if you want to quality set up
you know people, we'll discuss that Africa. I know people, Dene,
I've got these are I got quality ladies, excellent. So
other than looking for a lady to love, just look glancing.
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Did you like Rick? What did you think of Rick? Rick?
Up until he turned into a door? Until turned into
James Eckhouse. What's that he turned into? Yeah? What's his?
Jim James Eckert. And I saw those guys at a
comic con, Mom and dad, Jim Jim, Oh my god, yes,
he took a picture. It was lovely. It was wonderful,
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and uh, it was just it was just funny, you know,
And I said, I even said to them, I'm like, yeah,
until that episode where I had to turn into a
door because we've seen it. Yeah, we've seen the three
and Jenny's never seen any of this. So Jenny is
watching it all for the first time. I've seen it
like twenty times. But that's Rick is cool. Rick is cool.
He was way cool. He should have come back and
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broke up with her and walked away with his dignity
and tach no way, I thought he said from something
else in a different word when and got sweaty there.
I just felt the way when you're in the scenes
with Shannon, you're like twice the size of her, and
you can you just pick her up, like she's like
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a little Dolly. When I watched us walking through the
Parisian Garden one time I saw us walking through it,
I go I turned to I don't know who I
was watching, my parents or somebody, and I was like,
oh my god, I'm a giant. But Terry Hatcher was
also very small, so it was good for me a superman,
because I could just one hander pick her up in
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the carrier somewhere and I had to carry her all
the time. Um so that was a nice thing. Um
like as I also had to carry pen Gillette, who
at the time was two seventy pounds. I had to
hold him like this, and I literally felt my ankle
bones going like so uh. But next to Shannon, I
looked like a massive, gigantic person, um six ft. I mean,
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she's just She's just Lily Liliputian. Oh, Randy, here it
is here, it is there, it is. By the way,
I would say, this is one of the more beautiful
uh TV guide covers ever. It's absolutely you're biased. It's
because we're I'm biased. I think it's now that's true.
I liked I've always when I look at it, my
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eye doesn't immediately go to me. It might go to
the dress there there. I'm just saying to call it
a scoop back dress. Wait, this guy he even knows
his dress terminology. Guys, let's go God, is it hotel
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hot the people know? The TV guy used to be
the only thing that you would look at before you
would like to go in. That was on We're like,
what's coming up tonight? You how to open the TV guy. Now,
I wouldn't even know how to like read a TV
guy like It's so it existed for a while, it
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became like a thin, thin small now came in and bigger.
I don't. I mean, who's gonna pay for TV guy?
I mean just click click on your Nana Nana like
your magazines. I let you. Nana still has that one
we were on my parents I'm sure cheer in my
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house up my parents house. So do people. I mean,
obviously everyone's a superman and even Scott Peterson, But do
you get stopped for nine O two and oh or
like at the time what happened to when it was
when at the time of Dino two. No, I don't
really remember because that was too much of a thing
going on. But you know, comic cons and things. Now,
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if people want to tell me how long they've been
a fan, they're like week Greek and I'm like, okay,
I appreciate that. That's really nice. They're like, look, I'm
o g I'm back at the nine O two one night,
two o days. So that's that's where I started with you,
And I'm like, wow, you really are. Then if you
can go back there and it's it's very sweet. But yeah,
a lot of people. I mean, the show was the
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biggest thing in the world. So yeah, so I was
trying to figure out how to ask you this question
because I like know what I want to ask. It's
so confusing. So Jenny, obviously I know this is gonna
it's like a confusing questions. But so Jenny is Kelly,
you know, she is known for that and she well
on and you were the star, right, But Dean is
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in this group of people that started on nine o
two and Hilary Swank, Michael Cudlitz, Peter Krausa. What is
that like when because people always will probably pull that
random clip out there like this is where you gotta start.
You know, what is that like being in that group
of people, because there's a whole group of you. Of course, again,
biggest show in the world, everybody watched in worldwide, um
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so to be and I would imagine you get all
sorts of people who were on their on their way
up and and and passing through. I mean, that's it's
it's the it makes sense. It's sort of a stepping stone,
if you will, And it makes perfect sense to me
when you look at it when you look at I
love doing that with old shows, going back and watching
the show I was at seeing people guest starring on it.
Oh look, here's Brad Pitt playing the chifil a dog,
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you know, whatever Chick fil a chicken or whatever happens
to be. And that stuff is awesome, even like Thelma
and Louise. When it was Brad Pitt, that was a
big that was the big start. Well, Leo was on
Growing Pains, was Growing Pains. I didn't really watch Growing Pains,
so I missed that part. But that's awesome. I love
to see that. Everybody has to have a start. You
have to begin somewhere. And nine oh two one oh
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launched a zillion careers, including mine. Thank you very much. Well,
I think that's a good thing. I mean, what, look
what we gave the world. It's true, though, it really
is true. You did give the world something special. And
I just finished producing, directing, writing my own my first
feature that I ever directed and produced and started and everything.
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I just finished it and I feel like I'm delivering
a baby to the world. It's a living, breathing thing
and it's wonderful and I'm really super proud of it.
It's called Little Angels, and I'm just but it is
a living breathe thing. It's you know, nine o two
and oh, is a living breathing thing that everybody can experience.
And now with streaming and everybody experiencing it for the
first time, I think it's incredible. So wait, tell us
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about Little Angels. What is it and what's it about?
And where can we see it. I'm gonna sell it
in about two weeks. It's independently financed. It turned out wonderfully,
so I'm super excited about it. And it's the story
of a really you know, I played professional football, so
um it's the story about big time college football's coach
like Nick Saban, guy who makes five to ten million
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dollars a year and actually five in the movie Um
and he he makes a mistake, says some things that
aren't politically correct, and in trouble, doesn't get fired, gets
skewed in the media, but gets in trouble, and UM
has a new athletic director placed above him, who says
that he has to do a hundred hours of community
service in a hundred hours of a sensitivity seminar. The
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seminar turns out to be something he hates, of course.
And the community service is even worse because it's coaching
girl roles under thirteen year old soccer and so it's
basically like The Mighty Ducks or the Backs. Um, but
it's got all kinds of heart. It's super fun. Helena
Mattson plays the girl opposite Um, and she is wonderful.
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I pulled favors from so many of my actor friends,
uh to come in and give me a couple of days,
and it's it's turned out wonderfully, wonderfully, wonderfully. My stole
some of my dad's big time post guys. Great editor,
great composer, you know. So it really it's it's beautiful.
It's a lovely film. I think we're in really good shape.
I cannot wait until we get to show it to
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some of these distributors, and we're doing we're only showing
it to a few because I'm that confident it's gonna
sell it right away. Oh that's so exciting, very exciting
to to well, because so getting my son, when we
go back to that, it was like, you know, I
had to find a nasty custody battle and in that
period of time, UM, the amount you work, where you go,
whether you leave town. It's all under the microscope. If
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I took a series, I would have lost custi to
my son. If I took up a lead in any
series gone, it's over. If I took a movie that
was gone for longer than three weeks, I was gonna
lose custody my son. All these things had to be
worked out. So I turned down. It was after Lewis
and Clark. It was the year two thousand. I turned down.
What would have been would have made me the highest
paid or one of the highest paid actors in television.
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Um the show ended up going six years. What was it?
I can't say, because they did it. Okay, okay, maybe
just tell me later, you just tell me they I
turned it down because my son's mother wouldn't participate and
I would have to find a move away case. And
my attorney said, I can't guarantee you're gonna win it.
So I said, you have. You're making me choose between
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being a father and and doing this show and making
all this money. And he said, that's your choice. I said,
not even a question. Very interesting kind of role reversal there,
because many women would experience this I think it's wrong
all the way around. And I think are our family
court system in California specifically, because that's the only one
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I've been through, is handled in correctly. I think it's
made to make the party's adversarial as opposed to working
together and really what's in the children's best interest, And
I don't think that really happens. Mom's making an appearance.
There's Mom. They are so cute. We're gonna go up
because we're in Las Vegas and it's March Madness starting today.
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A couple of basketball bets on. I know, what about
Tom Brady coming back? Why does that irritate me so much?
Why am I not like? I'm so like what? Dude?
I love it? I love it for so many reasons.
First of all, he's the greatest of all time. He
really is the goat um. He is such a gentleman,
(34:43):
such a great guy. And his wife, gells amazing and fantastic,
and I got to interview her on the Today Show
when I was hosting, and she's just lovely and Tom
is a sweetheart of a guy. There's a lot of
things that play there when you really think about what
he did. So he retired. That changes the whole dynamic
with what they're gonna do free agency wise, what people
are thinking, what's going on and then coming back. I
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mean all the jokes are, hey, the guy spent forty
days at home with the wife and kids, just like nope,
I'm going back on. I get the jokes. I don't
think that's the case at all, and they support him.
It's a finite period of time where you can play
this game. He's done it longer and better than anybody.
God bless him for that. And if he's got a
couple more years in him, do it, buddy. Just some
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gamesmanship in the free agency there really could have been
and I think that's important, you know, because they get
him back. That changes the entire Yeah, it really does everything.
The whole world is different because Brady's back. I feel like,
do you think he just went home and was like
it was like he was hemming and highing and then
he like went one win and he's like, I don't
want to do that. Why did I do that? I
don't think Tom does that. I don't think Tom does that.
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I think Tom had it in his mind. He's like, look,
I'll just retire and take my my money and the
things and so on and so forth, and then I'll
make a decision. When I to make a decision. Look
at all the news it made when he retired. What
if he didn't say anything? What if he didn't retire?
And then here he goes going, Yeah, I'm gonna come
back for another year. Okay, right right right? Why not
make all the news? Why not making a big deal.
They were already talking about the movies he's gonna produce
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and things like that. So I think he's did I
just I think he's working on a movie. I don't
want to, like speak out of school, but I think
I just heard like he's working. I got. I don't
want to I think he's as an actor or as Yes,
I might have misheard it, so I don't want to
like he might be producing it. Yeah, oh my goodness,
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I can't move whatever. You that so far? Sounding a
little bit like you? That's what I was gonna say.
How do you stay so handsome? Like? How come you
don't look one day older than Rick? I got lucky
with the hair man. I'll tell you what. All my
friends from Prince didn't like. I just cut my hair
there like hair You're like, why is it not gray?
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I'm like, I don't know. You know who? We had
Andrews shoe on and his hair was impressive also was it? Yeah,
he looks good. He's a good dude. He's a he's
a smart guy, a good guy. You have like, yeah, no,
great in a full head. Yeah, I cut it. I
got they didn't do. I'm not really happy with my
hair cut. But we won't get into that. You got
to thank your mom for that. My mom's blonde. Other
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exact same jeans. He's got grey. He's got a lot
of great He worries more than I do, att more
stress in his life. He doesn't self. Where do you
think Rick? Where do you think Rake? His today? Oh?
Rick's doing well. He's married with six kids, the CFO
some big giant company. And at night when he's alone,
(37:43):
having like a nice tequila by himself, he sits at
the piano and he plays great balk of Fire and
he thinks of Brenda. Brenda Dubois is what he knew.
I can't remember the last name, but it's impressive. God, Okay,
we're packing my life Jenny rapid fire game with them,
(38:05):
and then I need to come I need to call
Dean to do the Lois and Clark rewatch podcast. When's
that happening? That was so much fun. I'll do that
while I'm setting me up with your wife and the
whole thing. I'm just gonna make it a service. I
accept m h Okay, We're gonna ask you some questions,
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all right, favorite character from nine two one man, it's
gotta be there, Luca, Luca, Jason, saw Brandon, give me Brandon.
I'll give it to Jason. Okay, good, Okay. So that
that that leads me to what are you team Dylan
or team Brandon? Well, you know the answered that team
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Brandon of course. All right, uh, favorite cast member, not character,
favorite cast member Luke. He was just so cool, he
was so sweet. Good dude. Yeah, And you're gonna have
to ask them this next one because you know I
hate this part is this kiss? Mary kicked to the curb? Okay,
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So I'm down. All right. So you've got like, now
are we doing Kelly or Jenny? Let's do characters? Character character? Brenda, Kelly, Donna, Andrea?
Who do you want to kiss? Who do you want
to marry? Which means like do it? And then who
do you want to forever get rid of and nobody
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gets upset. No, we don't care. I don't care. You
can kick me your right type of curb. There's zero
chance you're getting kicked to the current. I'm just deciding
whether I want to say I want to kiss you.
Were married you, so I was gonna go there. I
would say, Mary Kelly, I love it. Nice kiss Brenda
because you did. And I guess I'd have to kick
Andrea to the curb. All right, good solid answers, really good.
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Tory was just too damn young in jail. You'll get
in trouble for that. You'll have to arrest yourself. It's
so great to catch up with your dean. It's awesome.
I'm glad I was able to get on here and
yes and speak with you. And it's just fun to reminisce.
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And I think it's a wonderful thing to celebrate and
reminisce about. I do too, and I hope that our
paths cross on a Christmas movie set here amazing. Recreate
the TV guide. Well, then you can pick like former
something or others that back in the day that was
the thing they did, and you know, start figuring out
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right now, right down right down right that ship right now.
You're a big producer. Now come on, yeah, Dean, I
can get it made. I promise you that scoop back
dress is coming at you. That's the whole thing. Decades.
That's a lot like work back Mountains. I don't know, yes,
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but no, Oh my god, you guys are the best.
I would love to have a Hallmark or a Lifetime
movie with Jenny and Dean. Oh my gosh, Well, good
luck with your march madness what. I don't know what's
going to happen, but it sounds it's gonna be crazy
with mom and dad downstairs. You know it's that it's
because you can bet here in Vegas so easily. And
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my dad's a huge basketball fan, so you know, I
love to spend time with my dad and hang out
with him and my son. Fortunately, my twenty one year
old son loves to spend time with his dad. So
that's the kind of thing that the three of us
would go over there if my son wasn't in college
being a good boy. Well he's in college. I'm not
sure he's been a good boy. There school in North
Carolina at High Point University and he's doing great, and
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I'm going to go see him there next week. Good
for you that I teach at his school. I'm what
they call an innovator in residence. I teach filmmaking and
acting and hosting and all right, are you real? Are
you real? God? Straight up superman? Darn rights, Thank god,
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thank you guys are the best. Thank you so much, Dean.
I enjoyed it tremendously. Jenny's wonderful to see you, Amy,
Thank you for all your compliments. Man, have a glass
of one of those things behind you, because I'm about
it's audio book all day. I think it is time
for the Lewis and Clark rewatch. I'm down. I'm gonna
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be calling. I'm not calling up. You know the number,
darn right. Alright, Dean, have a good day. Good to
see you, cheers. Oh my god, Jenny, I'm so sorry.
I got so excited. I didn't even know what to
do with myself, Like, oh my god, stop talking. I'd
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like Diarry of the mouth. I don't know what's wrong
with me. You a hot guy comes on to our
zoom here and you lose your shoe? What happened to me?
Like you guys, I have to apologize everyone listening. I
literally just was I talking like so crazy. It's easy
to tell. He's very easy to talk to me. He's
very charismatic and and well he's handsome. He's so dreamy.
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He's very knowledgeable, Like he's very intelligent. He is like
in company Andrew Shoe for dreamiest guest of all time.
I think that's what we need to just focus on
moving forward, is just continuing to have dreamy guys that
we interviewed, like Job was unashamed, like I am fully
sweating in the face, like I don't know, just in
(43:42):
your face, Like my face is so flushed and hot.
Yeah I'm not like gross sweat. But it was like,
I hope everyone long time like I did. I think
they do. I think he has a really strong but
I must apologize I cut you off like forty two
times because I was so I was so excited that
I don't know what came up because it was so
(44:02):
cool right from the start. Yeah, he's a cool dude.
Like his parents walking around behind him. That's the best
part of the whole fad, you guys his I wanted
to be like, is your mom making your bent to
like his parents were so freaking cute, and the mom
was full in the laundry, and then the mom and
dad were like back and forth shuffling in the backgrounds.
(44:22):
There's must be so proud of him, a Princeton football player,
sametime movie actor and worships them. He's like, I just
like to be with my parents and my kid. I'm like,
excuse me, what, like, jeez, what the sounds crazy? I
hope you liked it. Oh yeah, yeah, wait, so I
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should explain I loved it. But okay, so we did
that because Tori's off this week, so Tori will be back.
We have not forgotten the Brenda Kelly debate, and then
we'll get back on track rewatching these episodes. Yes, I
feel very I'm all twitter because we've been doing all
these nine o two one on ones, which was our
(45:04):
new idea, nine O two one on one. But it's like, yeah,
so we got a little off track. So everybody listening,
We're gonna do the debate Brenda versus Kelly. We want
all the Brenda people to explain how dumb I am,
and then we'll be back rewatching. We want to hear it.
We want to hear from all the sides. Also, you guys,
Jenny looks so perfect today and Dean looked so hot,
(45:26):
and then Randy had the TV guide and I was
just like, is this just like Supermodel City? Like that
was crazy, ridiculous. Do you want to see what I'm
wearing on my lower half? Okay, We're just it's a
really expensive red hoodie, perfect Amazon. You can't see it.
(45:51):
White shorts, Eagles shorts. Can you see it? Oh my god,
They're not dissimilar to the same shorts that a one
um Steve Sanders might have worn back in the day. Really,
they're just two inches shorter. Those would be full Steve Sanders.
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I got the liner in there and everything. Oh my god,
I had the best time today. Crap. Okay,