April 11, 2025 • 54 mins
It has been 10 years since headlines broke that Brandi Glanville was shading Tori for her relationship with Dean. “What Goes Around Comes Around” she said and maybe it did, but it was time to sit down, clear the air, talk about it, and what transpired was two women who found out they had way more in common than they thought.
Not only do these women address the headlines that kept them at odds, they also compare notes as moms, dating Eddie Cibrian, and what being broke and famous really means in Hollywood. Brandi shares with Tori an update on her health struggles and how her Bravo scandal has basically made her un-employable. So perk up those ears (and not just because Brandi is also spilling on her new music single and video), but because you don’t want to miss a word of this conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I thought of a show for us on the way
over you did, Yeah, I want to hear it. Yeah, broken, famous, famous,
and broke.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I don't know if you're broken any more, but I'm broke,
honestly broke as fuck. It sucks. I would rather and
no one gets it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's so hard because if I go and work at CVS,
then everyone's gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You know, oh my god, Look, I don't know. I
don't know what I'm supposed to do anymore. And I
just you're not gonna go work at CVS.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I love CBS, though I got extra bags make me
so happy. But no, I was just thinking, it just
sucks to have people know who you are, and like
being famous is hard enough, but at least those most
people have money, I know, I mean you had money,
you know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I don't know what. I don't know what your situation
is like now. Yeah, yeah, this industry is just they're
so it's high, it's low. I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I haven't had filler or botox in two years because
of the muzation. Yeah no, and I'm miserable and my
neck is the thing that makes me the most miserable
because you know those lines. I never had them before.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No, wait, what lines? You know the things at pool?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I have one nail on. It's a really fun day
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I might have no I have. It's fine, I have
like nail glue.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But then I didn't bring my nails, and I've already
gotten like almost gotten like three accidents on the right
here because I was putting on a mask and then
make up over my mask so that I would look
not like I looked yesterday for Netflix. I'm just gonna
hide my hands. That's how I kind of normally do it.
James knows. I'm always glueing on nails because I have
no nail bed. It's like a little kid's nail bed,
(02:01):
and they grow like they arch up.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's not like a.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Deformity, but it it is kind of my mom our.
Nails just grow like a ski jump. So look like
I have a really short nail bed.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
One hair I don't want to grow. I got I
got all that shit in my car. Do you want
hair with at a lotto ticket attached to it? Like
this is my life. We're kind of the same.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it feels like it's scary. So I glued them
on yesterday for the for the reality show. I mean,
he's twenty one. I'm not the boss of him anymore.
I just don't want this life for him because because you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Know firsthand, but it could be different for him.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't think reality I mean right now reality TV
is the last two years has like completely.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Ruined my life. Yes, I understand, and.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I just don't want like, you know, why kiss say
stupid stuff and they don't realize. Even yesterday they the
kids are there's a girl, really pretty girl.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
She's a star. I mean, there's just no gutting around it.
I'm like, like she is a star or she's gonna
be a star.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
She she's gonna be a star. Like regard, she's like
the Christian cavalry.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I think, oh okay, but like.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
With blue eyes and like younger. But yes, so it's
like he went to see our canyon. So he has
all these friends, but on my time, he's seen the struggle,
like he we've moved thirteen times in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It seems that he had moved seventeen times.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Why do you have to one up me or two
up me? I mean too, are you on meds Now Mayan,
What are you on meds right now?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No? Why do you have any No? I do, but but.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We could talk about I was kidding the Ambien's kicking
in now. I'm so, I feel like I told James I,
I feel like we're gonna interview each other, because that's
how it always works out when I when I go
on someone else's podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh yeah, I just like to I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So, I'm like, we're going to talk. He's like, I
think she's just gonna ask you questions. I don't think
it works that way. He does my podcast with me.
I just yell at him.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So he's so handsome, he likes it. He's attractive, he's gay.
They're all gay. All the cute ones are good ones.
So what's going on with you? Where do I start?
I don't know. Should we go back to our beginning? Yeah,
let's do Okay, fine, okay. So I feel like the
(04:32):
first time I met you, you were a bit we
loved each other. Really the first time I Carlo, Yes,
oh my god, I came up to the tape. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You came up and said hi to Eddie and totally
ignored me, And you had that weird husband at the
time with the big eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh my god, that's so mean. I don't I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
No, he was nice, but you were like talking to
Eddie like I didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry because I'm not that
he But you know, I knew him through high school
on a date or some under your dated. I know
him through high school. He dated my best friend. Where
do you go to high school? Do you want Claire Prep? Okay,
so all of my best friends went to Montclair. My
brother went to Montclair. Oh doc, that was like a
fun school. You guys went on a couple of dates.
One date. But this is later on, right, So my
(05:21):
best friend still to this day, her name's Jenny. Different
Jenny dated him in high school or okay, I'm just kidding.
I think they went to one of like the dances
or proms. Like she totally was like all like goo
eyes over him, and he like broke her heart. And
then cut to years later. Do you remember do you
(05:44):
remember that club the.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Gem, the Gem? No, maybe I didn't left her at
oh wait, okay, yeah, yeah, so the Gem wasn't born yet. Okay,
I think we wait, we are.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The damage you're a year older. But other than that,
I thought you were younger than me. How old. I'm
fifty one. I'll be fifty two in May, so I'm
six months older than you. Yeah, but I thought you
were like for some reason and this is like a
good thing. And even like you're you don't have makeup
on today you're sitting here. I thought you were way
(06:20):
younger than me.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Just because I act like a child and I have
a high voice. Ever, I think it's my high voice
because everyone always thinks that I'm younger.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I'm straight. I mean, I'm thinking, and then I'm
just looking at your face from like since the moment
I met you have I'll show you what I'm not
looking at your face right now. I'll show you can
rarely see me.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Like we are the same person, Like I can't see ship.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think. Oh wait, wait, okay, wait, sorry, sorry, I'm
just excited. Okay, So Eddie and I like reconnected because
we had met through my friend in high school and
all our friends went to school together whatever. At this
like club on Melrose anyway, he was there and he
(07:09):
somehow asked me out, and I was like, I shouldn't work, Okay,
why why isn't Why am I the horror? Not?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What I'm talking about him? Okay? And my I just
remember saying yes because I was like, because I know
you went out with you. Then he was interesting, we're
bringing this together now.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well I told my kids that and they said absolutely
not true. And they don't believe things that I tell them.
I know are should be true because our dad doesn't
ever tell them the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Male, we like full transparency, like this is it? Yeah?
So I'm trying to put the pieces together. So what
it was? So I was scared to tell me about
friend because I was like, oh my god, she was
in love with him in high school and he broke
her heart. Am I supposed to be that dick friend?
(08:07):
And then like girl code not go out with them.
So I did end up telling her and I was like,
are you okay? And she's like, oh, I don't care.
Oh my god. We're in her twenties now, that was
in high school. So hot. Sorry I listen, So you
do really beautiful? Yeah exactly, And so we went on
a date. He was like, oh, I mean he came
(08:29):
and picked me up my apartment and he was like,
I'm gonna take you to Dre's. I remember telling my
friends like, I don't know, yeah I was. It was
like I was it on Sunset Boulevard. I just know
my friends were like, oh, that's really on a soap
opera already expensive? What soap was he on? About all
(08:49):
of them?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm like, I Young and the Restless and then Sunset.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Each Oh was he not on Nino two? And oh
maybe I know? Yeah, okay, okay. So I was so nervous,
hadn't eaten all day, and like, okay, nervously in front
of a guy at that age, like oh my god, yeah,
(09:15):
it's like it gives me anxiety. So we have like
a good table. We sat there, and the first thing
he says to me is he's like, I'm not really hungry,
are you do want to just get a drink? And
I'm like, ouck, I didn't eat all damn starving, okay,
but I didn't want to eat from of you. Anyway,
I'm a yes person, so I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. Anyway.
(09:36):
Cut to like three or four drinks later, I'm book
and shit faced, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm
not gonna lie. I felt like the combo wasn't great.
Oh really, okay, I felt like he's we didn't He
has a charm, very charming.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's like I always say to my my friends, like
go over and pick up the kids or drop them
off before when they were younger, and like, don't get
charmed because they all all my gay friends. Oh yeah,
for sure, and the kids have them too. So I'm like,
don't give me your dad's.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Face right now. I can. I like, I know, give
me PTSD. You know what living in Calabasas says.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm listening because I have goun in my mouth and
missing teeth.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's really fun to be me right now.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But no, I didn't think that going back to like
the scene of the crime, Calabasas was going to be
difficult because we've been getting along for years. I mean
it's not been an issue. As the kids get older,
they make their own decisions, right, I mean, we I
did fight when I I will pick my battles. I
(10:44):
tell the kids that's on you. But if it's something
I will go to war for and then I know
I will win. Like there was two things, and of
course I won, and they were like, oh shit, don't
mess with mom.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But it's just the little stuff that teach me your ways.
I'm just getting a check me a decade to fit
to Oh wait, can I finish the story? Wait? Sorry, sorry, sorry,
I get so easily distracted. I'll go from I'm trying
to like, yeah, so anyway, there were four drinks. I'm
totally wasted. He was charming, great, talked a lot about himself.
(11:16):
I listened and kept drinking and then I was like,
I have to go to the bathroom. And I walked
and couldn't find the bathroom, and then I was like,
I just remember. I ended up in the kitchen at
Drays and this lovely like waiter back there held my
hair and I puked in a pot. Oh my god,
and I was like, I'm wan to okay.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, our first state we had sex that it was
really good, and I.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Was that was one of the cards. Yeah. So I
came back to the table. We went home. He walked
me up, he put me in my bed. I think
he like literally kissed me on the list, which I
was like, don't even kiss anywhere because I just right, yeah,
total gentleman. He left. I did get that call like
a week later, being like I think I have an
(12:04):
audition for your dad, and I was wondering, word, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I met your brother.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He was really nice. I don't know if you guys
get along, but I mean he was like Eddy and
he got along really really well. Yeah yeah, And so
I'm like, okay, so just story.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's a bitch, Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I'm like no, I'm like, stand where I the juxtaposition
with like what I went through and what you went
through at the same time.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
We have to opposite side.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah wait, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So Eddie then did and being the person I am,
I was like, oh, I guess he is along on
a second date with me. But of course I was like, hey, dad,
I was like my friend Eddie like was Jenny's boyfriend
in high school. He went to Montclair where Randy when
it was all that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So any he's a good actor, like I mean, I will,
I'll just know. I'm just.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He's always been kind to me.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
He's kind and well, not to me always, but I
understand that he is handsome, Like you can't get around it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He's like one of the host guys I've ever. Yeah,
he was like destined to do something on camera. He
looks great, I.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Guess, but I just I'm not here for like mann Arexi.
I like when he's bigger, you know, I like, I
don't hope and they're super skinny. Oh really, oh I
bigger anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I never saw him whatever. It was okay, So then
came on one episode ended up doing your right senseit beach.
I was like forgetting and he and my brother now
it's all coming back right yeah, and it was all lovely.
Then the next time I saw him was at the
International TV and Film So I am so I apologize.
(13:53):
I was telling my producer Chrissy earlier, I was like
Brandy and I got along so well, like she was
so oh great. But honestly, I'm sorry if I came
across that way, because I'm anything but a bitch, Like
I'm I probably just I get nervous and like to
see people like, well, they know me, will remember me.
So I went up to him. Probably not even people
(14:15):
today that we were fifteen years ago. Whenever that was.
I wasn't even a bitch then.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'd never wanted to be. But I mean I choose,
I choose to do the right thing and be nice.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I could still see us talking sitting on that couch
though I didn't sit down with you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I was standing at the bar and no Eddie was
there sitting next to me. You came and said hi
to him. I turned to say hi to you, and
you completely ignored it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh I'm devastated. Yeah, okay, at least we're talking about it.
Could no.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I like this. I like this. And then the next
time I saw you was in the elevator going to
that Bruce Jenner thing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
In that moment, you were so nice.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm like, oh my god, I have to be nice
to her.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh see, And this is what's funny. I remembered when
we met. I was like, oh, I really like his wife. Good.
He has a nice one. She's full, she's kind. Great.
You thought I was a bitch, And then in the elevator,
in my mind, I was nice because I remembered our history,
thinking we liked each other, and I thought, oh, she
(15:13):
does not like them. So it was like, flip, it's
not I didn't. It's not that I don't like you.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You I didn't have a good experience with you before that,
but again, we all change. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't
like obviously the situations I was in, we were in
identical situations.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
On the literal. So we've never talked about this. But
and I'm friends with Mary Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I do know that, and I but I didn't know
if you guys were still friends, like, I know, since
Dean and I like, because she and I like came
around and everything was good and then it was it
just like flip flop.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You guys aren't good now though, I don't know. I
just moved to Canada, so I would. I would move
to Canada honestly, I want to be here, Yeah, because
of what's happening here.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh because yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Mean Canada everyone's just nice, are they?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, well they pretend to be nice.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I'll take it, pretend all day. But yeah, so we
should probably get into that, right, Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I mean you were first, so you were you were
the og.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, it's not a good thing to be first on.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So my husband cheated with a person on a movie set.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He met TV. Movie they did, right, okay, and then
you met TV exact same way, but the parallels were
like wild, I was.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
The wife at home and and he cheated with his
co star and Mary Joe was the wife at home. Yes,
and you cheated with her husband, who cheated with you?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean correct.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I don't blame one a man, a man or the woman,
but I blame both of them. I hate been like, oh,
she stole your man, Like you can't still a man
if he doesn't want to leave. Wait, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So there was a lot of that like yeah, yeah, homewrecker,
like like you stole my husband. Noah, I don't even
know she said that. Other people were like you stole
her husband. I mean it was the narrative for a
couple of years straight, a couple of yeah, everyone brings
(17:15):
it up and it's yeah. I was like, god, I'll
take accountability for everything, Like I could have said no
at any point, like you're married, you have kids, like oh,
and I didn't. It takes two people. I don't believe
you can steal a human. That's how everyone's like, don't
you hate her for that?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm like, I hate him because we had two beautiful
little kids and that was his choice.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I just got the hills same.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's hard to talk about it because it does like
bring I'm sorry, No, it's okay, because that's obviously a conversation.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We're going to have.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But you know, the man isn't forced into getting hard
and having.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Sex with you. So I mean that's on him and
it's in you. Yeah, yeah, it's that's on him. I
just got that. Oh you're funny.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It took me a second of process. Wow, I'm usually
quicker than that one. But wait, So, originally did Mary
Joe reach out to you? I believe so, I think so, right,
Please I read it. I don't know. We've never none
of us have talked about Mary Joe and I haven't
talked about it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
She was doing it. I think she was like the
original podcaster and she was having me on this a
long time ago. And I've had my podcast for fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Wait, I thought she was on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
She had interested, she had, she's had a podcast for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
She had it was one different incarnations, Yes, right, it
was this one in Canada.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't remember, Okay, but then I don't even remember
how we ended up meeting up. But she then hooked
me up with the skincare line to work for, and
so over the years we've just always like looked out
for each other, right, And so she's just been like, like,
I have to move, but I don't know where I'm moving.
She's trying to help me find a place. She's a
good she's a good.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Friend, and I love her.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And it sucks what happened. He sucks what happened to me.
But I don't think that it's your fault or it's leanceval.
I think it's every everyone's fault. How I was handled
after sucked because everything's in the public and it's hard
enough to go through it privately.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, and then I mean you got a lot of
hate as well. I mean, you know, people are mean,
and it was it was not fun.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And now you're divorced, right, that's crazy and you have
like twenty kids.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, goes around, comes around it, and you said that
I don't but I'm just kidding. But I don't believe
it happened to me.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I don't want that, but you have a lot that
for my kids, Like, I don't want them to have
to go through another ever, because I know, I mean,
divorce fox kids up.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It really does. Yeah can And I don't know what
your situation was like, but for us, like it got
to the point where it was worse for the kids
to see us together because we could no longer hide
what was happening and the fights, and for so long
I hit it from them the best I could. I
(20:20):
lost my voice for doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
If you have to leave a bad relationship, you have
to leave.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I was like, the kids are saying I had.
Some of my kids were like, mom, I just remember
my daughter Hattie and especially like with girls, like, I'm like, oh, man, also,
I don't even know how you do. She looked at
me and she goes, I'm scared to talk to you
about this if you're not ready. I go, what, baby?
And she's like, have you ever considered what it would
(20:46):
be like to be with someone else and not dad
and get treated right? And I was like oh, and
she was she loves her dad, it's not that, but
she just saw and grants it. Look at me, I'm
still covering, like I still have that thing protect me
because that's the father and my children. So I mean,
and he's an addict, so he was going through a
(21:08):
lot of stuff, but a lot of it was taken
down on me. And she saw that, and and I
didn't like the person I was because I'm trying to
raise strong humans and here I am just taking it
and being like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and it's like,
what am I doing? Right? So it was better for
us to yeah, no, I mean I think no, I mean,
(21:28):
but yes, he's cheated on me.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Really yeah, I didn't know that. Oh that sucks, but
I mean we kind of had to come in.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Sorry. That was on my show, True Torri. It was
like happening, and she and I had a conversation on
the show, which actually ended up being a good conversation,
and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I don't think she has any will towards you at all,
Like she doesn't say anything negative ever, and I and
I told her I was coming to do your podcast.
She's like, oh god, that's good, but then you have
to do mine. I'm like I've been saying I will
do her, but I'm moving and so I don't know
where I'm going. I'm just it's been a hectic time
with health issues and all the other shit on my plate.
Right now, I'm just like, yes, for sure. So, I mean,
(22:15):
you've been in Hollywood a long time now. I'm like,
for like, your iconic Beverly Hills was like it's still
like talked about and now you're here and you're like
you've been through it, would you do it all the
same again?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Do you want to say that question for your podcast?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
When I because I feel like we're just gonna I
feel like we're just interviewing each other kind of in
a way, but.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Not even interviewing, like like we get to talk like
this is an opportunity. It's like I've actually always wanted
to talk to you about this, and it's like, Okay,
here's a good excuse. I may more fun nowt like
having drinks and talking about it. But yeah, so I
forgot the question. Okay, would I do it all again?
Like just knowing the outcome? If you knew the outcome?
Which part?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, that's I guess the affair in the first place,
and marrying him.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I gotta say, I think about that all the time.
But if the journey had been different, I wouldn't have
my five kids, and those kids are my everything. So no,
I wouldn't change I wouldn't change the journey. I think
we could have gone back and handled it better.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, so there's that, but yeah, but the outcome, Yeah, listen,
I did not want to get a divorce. I found
out he cheated. I went to therapy with him, and
then I found out there was other people, and then
(23:47):
I'm like, okay, you're gone. I can't if it was
one time, one person. People make mistakes. I don't think
being an actor is natural, like to make out with people.
It's not a natural thing. Not to be attracted to
everyone's like, oh, there's lights and cameras and we're exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You have to hide like some sort of mystry.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
If you're attracted at all, that's got to be fun.
If you hate the person, not so fun, right, But
I mean, I just don't think it's natural. And of
course he's always the good looking guy who takes his
shirt off and makes that with everyone on camera.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
That couldn't have been easy for you. Oh it sucked
for years to see that. How long were you guys married?
Eight years?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Put together for thirteen?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, I mean, oh I was. I would look up.
I would this is like I.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Would go online and go to wire images. That's all
we have at the time, and just trying to find
out who this person was.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I still use it, but and just I'm like, okay,
is she tall? Is she short? And you know, at
the end of the day, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They're all like I found out about many and they
were all different shapes and sizes, and I had to
come to the realization it wasn't me, it's him, because
I mean I was doing I was being the best
wife I could be. It broke my heart, and I
think in a way, I still I'm still mad at
(25:05):
him for taking my kids away half the time because
I lost half their lives, right, and so I still
hold a little resentment. And I mean, we get along fine,
we spend holidays together, and it's I know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I see I mean obviously I'm a viewer as well,
so like I see you on Instagram and everything, and
it gave me hope. I know when we split, like
co parenting can work out. Why did you guys splat
June twenty twenty three. I was so soon. I took
my decade just hanging out. I was.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I was at war with them for ten years. I
just it was horrible, but I never let the kids
know it. I even went to therapy with them to
stop having them triangulate the kids because they were getting
caught in the middle. I'm like, this is our mess,
don't fuck with up my babies, and they're like, you
went and sat in therapy with Eddie and Leanne. I'm like, yeah,
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that's great. I sure they did, because at that point
my heart was broken and all I cared about was
my kids, and it was it was really fun therapy.
Actually I got to say so many things.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like cathartic, really like.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But then I kept changing the therapist because the therapists
kept agreeing with me. We had like three different therapists.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh no, so they didn't find it fair. We're going
to find someone else. Oh my god, Well, because you
were right. But it's wild, like all I know are
being really kind of with actors or people in the business.
I don't know if a male actor can ever be
not turned on. I know, no, I feel because it's
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also there's an ego that goes alongside it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Are athletes, actors and musicians are all.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Like they can't be with an athlete musician. Yes, I
haven't been with either. Should I add to my thelast
single don't You're No?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Wait? Like I just said, yeah, those three are off
the table. You need like a banker, like someone who
let you be. I have this theory there can only
be one star in the relationship.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh my god. My mom has said that before. See
she was because she was my dad for your you know,
and she was like, you got to know the Eddie
was a star.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I was happy to be at home make the food,
and he wanted me to stop modeling.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I did.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I raised the kids, and I feel that's why I
felt like.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Wait, why do he want you to stop modeling? Couldn't
you do both?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Because when you need to travel.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, and so like when I would be gone, he
would be like, what are you doing. I'm like, I'm
not doing what you were doing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But no, he just, you know, had she find out
about others, so she asking to know. I don't care. Oh,
I forgot about this. I watched this. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
After the thing came out, then sena thing came out
and she was like on Access Hollywood doing a sit
down about how Eddie cheated on her with Leanne and
I have a baby in diapers running around and I'm
sitting there on my couch.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's how you found out, yes, from watching Access Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And I was like is this I literally was like
I'm being punked.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
This cannot be raw. And that's when it was like
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then we Eddie and I had a conversation that
he still says he never had with me that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He said, it's not you, it's me.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I've always cheated from day one, and then it was
just us having that conversation.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
We wouldn't forget women never free.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And when I brought it back up, He's like, I
never said that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Of course, I'm like, okay, nothing against him, right, but
I'm just husband for me. Wait, I am sure this
has been out there, But how did you find out
about Lianne?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Or he told you it was No, it was on
Perez Hilton and what I'm in, like the drives, like
to drop off the kids at school we were leaving
that day, or my best friend was marrying Bruce was
and we're going to fly to Terce and Caicos or
the wedding and the two of you.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yes, and she only invited fecause okay, and so she
only invited four.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well yeah, it was like a private Oh okay, Demi
and Ashton, me and Eddie and then Kristin and Josh
are other friends.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So that was an anxiety, what's going to happen here? Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, no, I I went because and Perez it had
the cover of US Weekly. So I ran to the
store and she's on the cover, says Leann's affair was
a married man.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh it didn't say who, Well, yeah I did, No,
it did did How did he find out?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know how, you know how like.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
These taboys work, they reached out to you for a response.
So he knew, and he chose not to give me
any warning at all.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Oh wait, okay, Eddie knew. Eddie knew. But so like
how helplessis would say, like this is coming out.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He didn't give me any heads up. So I'm hearing
it from all the moms. And then I go home
and then I see it like Perez, and then I
go to the store. I get as quickly it's on
the cover like this hole and there's like pictures and
it's just.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know, I knew, I said pictures like someone
got pictures of them. Yes, the person released it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, someone got a picture of them making out.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
It's very suss.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I think she wanted it to come out so that
she could have her man, because I don't think that
he was trying to leave if he wasn't caught.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
If that makes sense, it makes sense. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, so I just said, listen, it's not about us,
it's about my best friend just getting married and we're
not talking about this. I don't know how I did it.
I was way stronger back then, and we didn't and
I had the time of my life at that wedding.
Did not give two fucks. I got sucked up.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I deserve a lot of things. I didn't have sex
with anyone. You have sex with him?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, because I mean you kept feeling like the last time.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I just I that and it was all that, like
that last weekend jen Anison. It wait what it wasn't No,
I can't. I forgot it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But because when we got back, he wouldn't move out
of the house, so he moved into the guest room,
and so then we would get in huge horrible fights.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Wouldn't have because it was his house? Okay yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Would he his? Was your house together? What was this thing?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I paid for it, it's my house, I'm not moving
But he did, okay all that to you? Oh okay? Yeah?
Was he like you can move out?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, he just went to the guest room and put
lock on the door. Because I did really want to
kill him a couple of times. I mean I was like, yeah,
you better lock that door, motherfucker. But then we get
in fights and then we'd have sex, and.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So I'm like, you have to leave, Oh my god,
but that yeah, God, I've been there, and that makeup
sex is really yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's not even makeup sex because you know, it's like
it's like torture sex, like yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
This is last time? Do I love you? You broke
my heart? Why am I here? What's happening it? It
almost feels like the first time sex again? No? Am
I wrong here? I'm only associating it because when Dean
cheated on me publicly, the only reason it came out
is because the girl it happened with sold a story.
It was coming out US Weekly. The week of Christmas.
(32:50):
My publicist called and was like, heads up, we can't
kill you. It's coming out. So I told him though,
and then we had to, like that nightgo and he
was like I don't remember that maybe, And we had
to go to the kids Christmas performance and I was
like knowing walking in, like people there were like, oh,
(33:12):
it's Torri and Dean. Oh their kids are so cute
and da da da da, And I was like him, No,
I was like in two days, like the world's gonna know,
because they were like, it's not going out for two days.
It came out two days before Christmas. Yeah, and then
I tried to get us into therapy because so the
(33:32):
night it happened and we went to the Christmas thing,
we came back, my best friend, who like gets paranoid
about everything is she's like, he's like, I'm going to
sleep in the other room. Obviously, like we weren't talking
about things, just going on, gonna celebrate Christmas, kids are home,
and she's like locked the bedroom door. I'm like, why
is he going to hurt me? And he's going to
(33:53):
kill me? And then she's just lock it. I don't know,
you don't know what's going to happen. So I tried
to get us into therapy and be like sos, doctor Waxler,
like we got a problem here, and yeah, that's when
he said he wanted to convince suicide. So we never
even talked about the affair. She had to put him
on a fifty one fifty and he's talked about I know, sorry,
(34:14):
I know it's not an easy way out there. I've
had so many friends that said that, and then we
never dealt with.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
They say that they're a sex addict. That that I'm like, okay,
well that isn't that, you know, convenient. I'm not saying
that Deane wasn't messed up. I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I don't know him. I don't know him at all.
I just remember that one time, like and then I
threw myself into like, oh my gosh, the holidays. I'm
here with the kids. Had you know, we just said dad's,
dad's off healing and they're like, my son was seven
at the time. He's like, oh, because of his anger issues.
I was like yeah, and he's I can read at
(34:49):
that point. That's why he was like, oh my gosh.
So he's at a hospital and I said, is it
uc that. I was like yeah, you know, I didn't
say what it was for. And he goes, I hope
they have surgery on him and they take out his
anger and I was like, oh my god, but yeah.
I remember going to visit him at UCLA and just like,
are you okay? I forgot like repressed everything that he
(35:12):
had just cheated on me. We had a fourteen month
old and I'm like, oh my god, and are you okay?
I'm here for you. Talk to all the doctors. But
we did have sex in the bathroom at his room
at UCLA and it was okay, and it was and
the sex was really good. And I thought about it
for a really long time, like what is wrong in me?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
You're punishing yourself that I yeah, I mean, that's just
it's part of when you're in love with someone. Yeah,
And like to this day, I haven't been in love
like I was with Eddie and I don't think I
will again. And hopefully no, No, I mean I've I've
loved people that haven't been Like maybe true love the
(35:57):
second time is totally different.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You closed your heart up, So look what happened the
first time. I mean I did.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I had I've had relationships like a couple of a
couple of years when I was like, I just I
don't let anyone get that close.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You know, it's who closed your heart up. It's hard to.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Also didn't trust people because of the TV situation, and
like guys that want to be on camera that scares me.
That would scare me, right, So I wouldn't want to
be on housewives ever. If I was a dude, I'd
be like, let the ladyes fight it out and.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They would want to when they when you were in
that situation? Interesting, okay, and.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That was always a red flag. Yeah, and that episode
do you like me? Or do you like the fact
that am I like a prize that you're like, Oh,
it's like a fun trick like trick pony. Oh yeah,
I'm dating that one girl and like I'm on TV
look and not really into me?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Or do you really like me? You know what I mean?
So it was just weird.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I have trust issues, yes him, Yeah, as you should.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Are you dating anyone now?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
With my health issues, I haven't. I want to do years. No,
it's like celibate for two years.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Not by choice, but yeah, because I just don't. I've
I've lost my security in my looks, I'm so insecure.
I isolate and god basses.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I don't leave my house. I don't do a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I did shoot a music video and they did touch
up my face with their digitizing thing because they were
so nice.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So can we talk about your face? Sure? So I
don't know what I read online, So I'm not sure
where you're at with it. So when did it start?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
So? I came back from Morocco in January two years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That was the Real Housewives Girls trip right that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Ruined my life. Six months later, I started to swell up.
My face was swelling up, and it would swell in
one sur oh no, and then go to the other side,
and then it was I have pictures and then it
would flip flop. So it seemed like there was something
alive and they're moving around, so I'm like, there's got
to be some parasite.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I got like there's something which can happen. It can,
but I.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Don't believe it's parasite now. But we still don't have answers.
It's been a lot of doctor's appointments and a lot
of money and unfortunately we don't have answers yet. And
I know there's a problem, Like my kids are, you know,
they were like my head sometimes feels like there's so
much pressure inside my head in my neck that it's
(38:34):
going to explode. I have to constantly chew gum. That's
why I'm cheating them now.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
It keeps my head from exploding because the pressure it
keeps it moving so that my limps actually drained because
my ted chairs like it's like bursting bubbles. It's disgusting.
But the problem is I have kaiser, that's my problem.
And I went to probably a dozen thirteen doctors there
and no well at all, and so I started, you know,
(39:03):
paying out of pocket and and the midst of all
of this, I'm not working. All my jobs canceled because
of because you couldn't work. Well wait, the Caroline stuff, Well,
the narrative when we got back from Morocco was I
was fired for being appropriate with Caroline Mansow and I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I was had I miss this one?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, well I don't know because it's ruined my life.
But I got six six months later. But those six
months I was in a feedt up position on my couch,
like contemplating suicide, being called horrible things by It's so
crazy that the press has so much power, like blogged
these bloggers they went, they went from gave her lap dance,
(39:44):
to kissed her unwantingly, to sexually harassed her, then to
rape like this is how and there's like two thousand articles.
And so I was supposed to go after Australia. I
had all these jobs like that, and everything canceled and
and it wasn't even I'm like, just wait for the
show to air at least like come.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
On, I'm sorry. Yeah, so like a hustling mom and like.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You're just like this right, And then I lost my
looks at the same time because I was I literally
at fifty one, started only fans because I did not.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Have are you on? Only fans? I am?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Because I didn't have income for six months and I
was like going through my savings and so I started
that I was making good money, and then my face
started being crazy. So then I couldn't really even do
that because they're like, Okay, we don't want any more
pictures of your feet or your mask with you with
a mask on, because I was trying to hide my face.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So it just fee fund Yeah, I just do you
have good feet? No, I have bunions, But people like them.
It's weird, that's the thing they like that they are.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
But so then it's just been a really tough tough time.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
And then now.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Still not having a diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I imagine that's the hardest. Is I fear the unknown and.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Just skidy frustration like something's But luckily some women have
reached out to me on social media and they've had
very very similar things happening to their face. And they've
helped me so much to know what tests to ask for,
know what, like you need to get a fungal panel
because we had black mold poisoning a long time ago,
(41:29):
so they think that could be part of this. Totally
a fungal infection. Because we had it so bad, we
got like a settlement from the landlord. And my son
had it the worst. But luckily for them, they got.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Money from it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Like you know, when Jake turns eighteen, ye'll have his
little nest egg that Mason had, so it's good.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
We were supposed to do that, and I couldn't deal
with the lawyers and going to all the doctors to
get the proof.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
No, I didn't have insurance. I was like just buying
everything on Amazon and sitting in my house like.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
It was.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's the worst. And I've never felt fully back from
that point. But then if there's a I had a
dental infection that no one knew about. It was under
a bridge, and I kept telling my dentist, I'm like,
there's something under there. It's really bothering me. He's like,
we can see through it on the extra you're fine.
And finally I took it out myself I got some
(42:22):
yarn and some super flasks and I pulled it down
and there was a completely rotted tooth. So and he
told you this fine, and that bridge had been there
for like ten years.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So I don't I still I have.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I think it was like a perfect storm of all
shit things that happened and we still are figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, my kids are still not okay, some worse than others. Yeah,
there took. It took. I don't know if you guys
had this with the black mold, but like neurologically, there
would be things well I can't I couldn't see. It
would just be like a delay or small And they
did this thing. We went to this not Easter medicine,
but like, yeah, they did all this the studies and
(43:07):
they'd deal with mold and it's for people, like they think.
I was like walking a straight line and count from
one to ten, and I'd be like, in my balance,
I couldn't walk and count at the same time because
my brain was trying to count. My other brain side
(43:27):
of my brain was trying to walk straight. And the
same thing were happening with my kids. Yeah, and it
was like we were all like my daughter would be like,
were where's this on the counter? And I was like,
I just told you, baby, And then it was right
in front of her and I'd be like, oh my god.
I'd be like She's like, oh, I didn't even I
can see it. Like every rental, I like, I'm still renting,
(43:48):
but I have it same. I have it checked for
black mold first, because we were so sick. Mason was
really like the worst. He had anaphylaxis almost every day
and or the school is like, oh, why are the
kids always so sick? Are you just not getting them
to school? That's that's how mine got checked out, is I.
One of the schools was like, we need to do
a zoom with the district and have like it was
(44:11):
wild and I said and a friend, actually, Jenny Garth,
said to me, you ever had your house check from Aldama?
It's just rental And she's like, yeah, you're good check
giving there. You have to check it. That's the reason
I checked it. And then the school still didn't care,
but like no, but it we got out like it's
I could have gone a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Like people don't understand you like I could. I had
the worst anxiety in my life. I didn't leave that
condo that we were living in. I couldn't see my
hair was falling out my I like, thank god. My
friend from Miami came over and he's like, there was
a leak in the ceiling. I ask the landlords to
fix it, like twenty times. They left it for four
months and he's like, you know what this game? Like,
(44:54):
I go, I don't know, but it smells horrible. He's like,
this is black mold. He's like, we have it everywhere
in Flora, like you need. He's like, this is why
you're feeling this way. This is why your skin is gray.
This is why you look this way. And I had
not felt one hundred since then. But we got out
of there, you know, and I got a lawyer because
(45:15):
we were all so sick.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, I should have gone forward with it. I didn't.
I didn't want to deal with more trust lawyers right now,
and it's lawyer than just like forget it and then
going through a divorce at the same time. I'm like, okay,
so I let that one go.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Sometimes just easier to say to get a lawyer do this.
I'm like I did for that, but I'm like, all.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
It doesn't stress me out. Why why not just.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Keep it moving and see what happened when I kept
it moving.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
You want to be well, you want to be happy.
You deserve that. But people online do tell you more.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Because they've gone through this woman. I don't even know
if it's the same thing. But would she say she
thought she's she sent me this. It's Tricka trica minosis.
I have a written down, but it's a fungal infection
that her and thirty other women have in Boulder, Colorado,
because they went to a doctor that gave them filler
(46:16):
that was not like some bogus as filla.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And so I'm like, well, even though everyone thought I
was doing too much filler and they always commented on it,
I wasn't like I had stopped, but my face I
looking back, it was still growing. So I think probably
the dental infection had a baby with the filler, you
know what I mean, Like the infection got into the
filler and now there's a fungle.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I don't know. I just honestly want someone to open
up my face and get rid of it. Oh my gosh.
And you're working with doctor Dubrow or no, yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
So he was speaking about me on TMC. So I
reached out to him because I said, if you're going
to talk about me, you might as well help me.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's fine, yeah, right, and like that's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Unfortunately we haven't we haven't come to any He thought
it was filler too.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
It's not filler.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's like it's not filler.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
And I'm like, you know, it's a fungle. How do
you find that?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Though, Well, they have to test for it. The test, well,
it's a culture they have to do.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
But he didn't.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I thought he had done that.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
But he did not, so so they'd have to open
up in your face to.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Go in or well he took three biopsies, okay, so
I thought we were testing for fungal.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Again.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I feel like it's so much more on the inside
of my like inside of my mouth because all drains
into my mouth, Like it might be better to go
inside my mouth.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
And do it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
So I'm seeing this new dentist and he's trying to
help me. So I'm I'm like explaining all avenues because.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
The pressure and neck it's makes sense, but it's all
adding up, like but it's getting worse.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
And like when when like an infectious disease doctor or
that kaiser, like you're fine, you're not getting antibiotics, and like,
I'm not here trying to get norco's. I need an
antibiotic because I do feel better on antibiotics. And the
one time I felt really good was that I had
IVY antibiotics and an IVY fungal treatment. But I couldn't
(48:17):
afford to keep it going because it was two thousand
dollars a week and I was paying out a pocket
and so I finished early, and because I looked normal again,
I'm like, fucky, I'll just finish and I should have
kept going. And now I just have to find a
doctor to put me back on that.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
And it's just so what do people do. I'm just asking, like,
if you don't have insurance or good insurance and you
don't get see good doctors, like.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
That's all they care about is good fucking money. I'm like,
I don't care what it costs. Like I had a rest,
like I rescued this dog. I had a rescue tuala
and that same vet for seven thousand dollars for a
rattlesnake bite which I didn't have. But of course I'll
find it. Yeah, I'll get another credit card to.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Have a lot. Yeah, for our babies, for our for babies.
Will do anything anything. I will pay for hair.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's like the one thing I cannot give up because
when my hair's out, I do not feel good, like
it's even It's like amplified by a hundred million.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
I yeah, so most girls got it that don't that
use have natural hair and use them a little bit
of fluff on.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Top of it. Mine's more than that. He's trying to
you have a single coming out? Talk about one second.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, so we have music coming out myself and two
Australian pop stars.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
They reached out to me.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Well, one is my manager and my friend James. He's
really famous in Australia.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
James, is this true? James is here on the.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Side and he's handsome. And they asked you to do
like a little a rap for the there a rap.
Yeah I don't sing so, but I like, yeah, sure,
So I wrote a up in it. It's actually really fun.
My kid and I let my kids listen to it
and they were mortified after they heard my first song
because I did a rap song. It was just a joke,
(50:10):
but they were like, not good, mom, but I still
put it out. I didn't care.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Our kids can be so judging, you know what. I
like it like, but yes, they like, Mom, that's dank.
That's all I hear now from teens means good. No
dank to us. Yeah, my eighteen said the other day
and I was like, oh, I'm still He's like, no, Mom,
Jane means awesome. I'm like, okay, if I.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Say anything that like with their lingo, they like. I'm like,
I'm like, that's she liked an out of pocket and like,
that's my lingo. But they're like, please do not say
out of pocket. I'm like, that was what we were
saying in ye say it if I want to say it, like,
but their lingo, they're like, I just I say it
in the wrong way on purpose to make them.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I'm like, why did it hit different? I don't like
who hit you?
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Like, no, it hit different?
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
But anyway, my daughter may we put pants on the
other day. I had like a slip dress on and
little like booty shorts underneath you couldn't see anything. And
she's like, I'm gonna say this in the nicest way, Mom,
can you put on pants. I'm like, I'm wearing pants
and she's like, no, like long pants, like those are shorts.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I'm so glad I don't have girls. I don't because
I walk around like this is a lot of clothes
for me. I walk around in simsuits I like have
and my stupid dogs. I love them because they're so
comfortable in my house and like the kids are so
used to seeing me, like with barely any clothes on.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
It doesn't FaZe them, thank god. But sorry I interrupt
you usually Australia, James.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
And it's called remedy. So it's yes, there's a little
teaser on my Instagram now.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
So people can go, okay, I have to go listen. Sorry,
sorry and listening okay, okay, yeah, it'll be fun. It's
a really fun like what are you wearing it? Oh
my god. I have the best clothes, like mostly James's clothes.
I like, the girl's got the best clothes.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
The boy's just the boy. He's handsome enough. He doesn't
need great though. He did look like a pirate and
I had to change it. I'm taking this off, and
don't you put those glasses on. But the girls, we
look good. We had a great stylist. Okay, that comes
out April ninth. Yes, okay, I'm really excited. I got
(52:28):
to tell you, and I know what it's like feeling
insecure and what anyone else says, we can't hear it
at all. I'm sitting right with you, and I know
you're going through so much physically and emotionally. I think
you look beautiful. Oh thank you. You really really When
you walked out of the room to talk to the bed,
I was telling my prodiser, I'm like, she's a fucking
(52:50):
gorgeous in person. You're very sweet, but you know, but
I know we have our own things that we feel.
But also if I took this, I like you without makeup.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, I have this like Peter Thomas Roth mask on
and it tightens everything up.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Wait, what's that? I want that one my purse. I'll
show you. But it lasts for about two hours, so
you're it's like Cinderella is I used to have something
like that.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
It lasts for two hours, and it's like it makes
it all smooth and then starts sinking in again and
turning different colors.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
So that's fun.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
But it's a great mask until I can figure this out.
That's what I'll be wearing.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
I want you to figure it out. I'm excited to
come on your podcast. We have more to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
I think I feel like we can day same.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I'm glad we got that all clear. I know. I'm so.
I'm so sorry you thought I was a bitch when
I first hit you. Okay, I mean, listen, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I feel like we're all allowed to change, right, I'm.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
No, I keep saying change. I promise you I wasn't
a bitch. No, I know, but I probably keep across
like you're.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Famous and Eddie, like you only talk to Eddie and
I you know what I mean, famous people. I think
that you're probably more scrutinized because because I don't know
if I was some random person in an ovator.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
That's my big thing, My entire life is because of who.
My dad was never wanting anyone to think, like, oh,
the rich girl, she's going to be a bitch, that
I was a bitch, so I was usually overly out
of the way. But I'm also always been super insecure,
so I probably it was probably an everything in me
to go up to him to say hi, because I
don't like seeing like seeing people I don't, I don't.
(54:32):
We were like, you know them, go say hi. I'm like,
I don't know, I'm scared. I'm scared, and then like
I'm sorry, well you know what, I forgive you.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
It's fine and we'll do this again.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
This was fun.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, I'm sorry I was a little late. But the dog,
she is my Her name's Lady, Lady for lady
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Sorry for lady, persh for Lady.
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I thought of a show for us on the way
over you did, Yeah, I want to hear it. Yeah, broken, famous, famous,
and broke.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I don't know if you're broken any more, but I'm broke,
honestly broke as fuck. It sucks. I would rather and
no one gets it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's so hard because if I go and work at CVS,
then everyone's gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You know, oh my god, Look, I don't know. I
don't know what I'm supposed to do anymore. And I
just you're not gonna go work at CVS.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I love CBS, though I got extra bags make me
so happy. But no, I was just thinking, it just
sucks to have people know who you are, and like
being famous is hard enough, but at least those most
people have money, I know, I mean you had money,
you know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I don't know what. I don't know what your situation
is like now. Yeah, yeah, this industry is just they're
so it's high, it's low. I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I haven't had filler or botox in two years because
of the muzation. Yeah no, and I'm miserable and my
neck is the thing that makes me the most miserable
because you know those lines. I never had them before.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No, wait, what lines? You know the things at pool?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I have one nail on. It's a really fun day
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I might have no I have. It's fine, I have
like nail glue.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But then I didn't bring my nails, and I've already
gotten like almost gotten like three accidents on the right
here because I was putting on a mask and then
make up over my mask so that I would look
not like I looked yesterday for Netflix. I'm just gonna
hide my hands. That's how I kind of normally do it.
James knows. I'm always glueing on nails because I have
no nail bed. It's like a little kid's nail bed,
(02:01):
and they grow like they arch up.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's not like a.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Deformity, but it it is kind of my mom our.
Nails just grow like a ski jump. So look like
I have a really short nail bed.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
One hair I don't want to grow. I got I
got all that shit in my car. Do you want
hair with at a lotto ticket attached to it? Like
this is my life. We're kind of the same.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it feels like it's scary. So I glued them
on yesterday for the for the reality show. I mean,
he's twenty one. I'm not the boss of him anymore.
I just don't want this life for him because because you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Know firsthand, but it could be different for him.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't think reality I mean right now reality TV
is the last two years has like completely.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Ruined my life. Yes, I understand, and.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I just don't want like, you know, why kiss say
stupid stuff and they don't realize. Even yesterday they the
kids are there's a girl, really pretty girl.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
She's a star. I mean, there's just no gutting around it.
I'm like, like she is a star or she's gonna
be a star.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
She she's gonna be a star. Like regard, she's like
the Christian cavalry.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I think, oh okay, but like.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
With blue eyes and like younger. But yes, so it's
like he went to see our canyon. So he has
all these friends, but on my time, he's seen the struggle,
like he we've moved thirteen times in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It seems that he had moved seventeen times.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Why do you have to one up me or two
up me? I mean too, are you on meds Now Mayan,
What are you on meds right now?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No? Why do you have any No? I do, but but.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We could talk about I was kidding the Ambien's kicking
in now. I'm so, I feel like I told James I,
I feel like we're gonna interview each other, because that's
how it always works out when I when I go
on someone else's podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh yeah, I just like to I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So, I'm like, we're going to talk. He's like, I
think she's just gonna ask you questions. I don't think
it works that way. He does my podcast with me.
I just yell at him.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So he's so handsome, he likes it. He's attractive, he's gay.
They're all gay. All the cute ones are good ones.
So what's going on with you? Where do I start?
I don't know. Should we go back to our beginning? Yeah,
let's do Okay, fine, okay. So I feel like the
(04:32):
first time I met you, you were a bit we
loved each other. Really the first time I Carlo, Yes,
oh my god, I came up to the tape. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You came up and said hi to Eddie and totally
ignored me, And you had that weird husband at the
time with the big eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh my god, that's so mean. I don't I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
No, he was nice, but you were like talking to
Eddie like I didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry because I'm not that
he But you know, I knew him through high school
on a date or some under your dated. I know
him through high school. He dated my best friend. Where
do you go to high school? Do you want Claire Prep? Okay,
so all of my best friends went to Montclair. My
brother went to Montclair. Oh doc, that was like a
fun school. You guys went on a couple of dates.
One date. But this is later on, right, So my
(05:21):
best friend still to this day, her name's Jenny. Different
Jenny dated him in high school or okay, I'm just kidding.
I think they went to one of like the dances
or proms. Like she totally was like all like goo
eyes over him, and he like broke her heart. And
then cut to years later. Do you remember do you
(05:44):
remember that club the.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Gem, the Gem? No, maybe I didn't left her at
oh wait, okay, yeah, yeah, so the Gem wasn't born yet. Okay,
I think we wait, we are.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The damage you're a year older. But other than that,
I thought you were younger than me. How old. I'm
fifty one. I'll be fifty two in May, so I'm
six months older than you. Yeah, but I thought you
were like for some reason and this is like a
good thing. And even like you're you don't have makeup
on today you're sitting here. I thought you were way
(06:20):
younger than me.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Just because I act like a child and I have
a high voice. Ever, I think it's my high voice
because everyone always thinks that I'm younger.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I'm straight. I mean, I'm thinking, and then I'm
just looking at your face from like since the moment
I met you have I'll show you what I'm not
looking at your face right now. I'll show you can
rarely see me.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Like we are the same person, Like I can't see ship.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think. Oh wait, wait, okay, wait, sorry, sorry, I'm
just excited. Okay, So Eddie and I like reconnected because
we had met through my friend in high school and
all our friends went to school together whatever. At this
like club on Melrose anyway, he was there and he
(07:09):
somehow asked me out, and I was like, I shouldn't work, Okay,
why why isn't Why am I the horror? Not?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What I'm talking about him? Okay? And my I just
remember saying yes because I was like, because I know
you went out with you. Then he was interesting, we're
bringing this together now.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well I told my kids that and they said absolutely
not true. And they don't believe things that I tell them.
I know are should be true because our dad doesn't
ever tell them the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Male, we like full transparency, like this is it? Yeah?
So I'm trying to put the pieces together. So what
it was? So I was scared to tell me about
friend because I was like, oh my god, she was
in love with him in high school and he broke
her heart. Am I supposed to be that dick friend?
(08:07):
And then like girl code not go out with them.
So I did end up telling her and I was like,
are you okay? And she's like, oh, I don't care.
Oh my god. We're in her twenties now, that was
in high school. So hot. Sorry I listen, So you
do really beautiful? Yeah exactly, And so we went on
a date. He was like, oh, I mean he came
(08:29):
and picked me up my apartment and he was like,
I'm gonna take you to Dre's. I remember telling my
friends like, I don't know, yeah I was. It was
like I was it on Sunset Boulevard. I just know
my friends were like, oh, that's really on a soap
opera already expensive? What soap was he on? About all
(08:49):
of them?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm like, I Young and the Restless and then Sunset.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Each Oh was he not on Nino two? And oh
maybe I know? Yeah, okay, okay. So I was so nervous,
hadn't eaten all day, and like, okay, nervously in front
of a guy at that age, like oh my god, yeah,
(09:15):
it's like it gives me anxiety. So we have like
a good table. We sat there, and the first thing
he says to me is he's like, I'm not really hungry,
are you do want to just get a drink? And
I'm like, ouck, I didn't eat all damn starving, okay,
but I didn't want to eat from of you. Anyway,
I'm a yes person, so I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. Anyway.
(09:36):
Cut to like three or four drinks later, I'm book
and shit faced, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm
not gonna lie. I felt like the combo wasn't great.
Oh really, okay, I felt like he's we didn't He
has a charm, very charming.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's like I always say to my my friends, like
go over and pick up the kids or drop them
off before when they were younger, and like, don't get
charmed because they all all my gay friends. Oh yeah,
for sure, and the kids have them too. So I'm like,
don't give me your dad's.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Face right now. I can. I like, I know, give
me PTSD. You know what living in Calabasas says.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm listening because I have goun in my mouth and
missing teeth.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's really fun to be me right now.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But no, I didn't think that going back to like
the scene of the crime, Calabasas was going to be
difficult because we've been getting along for years. I mean
it's not been an issue. As the kids get older,
they make their own decisions, right, I mean, we I
did fight when I I will pick my battles. I
(10:44):
tell the kids that's on you. But if it's something
I will go to war for and then I know
I will win. Like there was two things, and of
course I won, and they were like, oh shit, don't
mess with mom.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But it's just the little stuff that teach me your ways.
I'm just getting a check me a decade to fit
to Oh wait, can I finish the story? Wait? Sorry, sorry, sorry,
I get so easily distracted. I'll go from I'm trying
to like, yeah, so anyway, there were four drinks. I'm
totally wasted. He was charming, great, talked a lot about himself.
(11:16):
I listened and kept drinking and then I was like,
I have to go to the bathroom. And I walked
and couldn't find the bathroom, and then I was like,
I just remember. I ended up in the kitchen at
Drays and this lovely like waiter back there held my
hair and I puked in a pot. Oh my god,
and I was like, I'm wan to okay.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, our first state we had sex that it was
really good, and I.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Was that was one of the cards. Yeah. So I
came back to the table. We went home. He walked
me up, he put me in my bed. I think
he like literally kissed me on the list, which I
was like, don't even kiss anywhere because I just right, yeah,
total gentleman. He left. I did get that call like
a week later, being like I think I have an
(12:04):
audition for your dad, and I was wondering, word, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I met your brother.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
He was really nice. I don't know if you guys
get along, but I mean he was like Eddy and
he got along really really well. Yeah yeah, And so
I'm like, okay, so just story.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's a bitch, Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I'm like no, I'm like, stand where I the juxtaposition
with like what I went through and what you went
through at the same time.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
We have to opposite side.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah wait, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So Eddie then did and being the person I am,
I was like, oh, I guess he is along on
a second date with me. But of course I was like, hey, dad,
I was like my friend Eddie like was Jenny's boyfriend
in high school. He went to Montclair where Randy when
it was all that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So any he's a good actor, like I mean, I will,
I'll just know. I'm just.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He's always been kind to me.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
He's kind and well, not to me always, but I
understand that he is handsome, Like you can't get around it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He's like one of the host guys I've ever. Yeah,
he was like destined to do something on camera. He
looks great, I.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Guess, but I just I'm not here for like mann Arexi.
I like when he's bigger, you know, I like, I
don't hope and they're super skinny. Oh really, oh I
bigger anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I never saw him whatever. It was okay, So then
came on one episode ended up doing your right senseit beach.
I was like forgetting and he and my brother now
it's all coming back right yeah, and it was all lovely.
Then the next time I saw him was at the
International TV and Film So I am so I apologize.
(13:53):
I was telling my producer Chrissy earlier, I was like
Brandy and I got along so well, like she was
so oh great. But honestly, I'm sorry if I came
across that way, because I'm anything but a bitch, Like
I'm I probably just I get nervous and like to
see people like, well, they know me, will remember me.
So I went up to him. Probably not even people
(14:15):
today that we were fifteen years ago. Whenever that was.
I wasn't even a bitch then.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'd never wanted to be. But I mean I choose,
I choose to do the right thing and be nice.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I could still see us talking sitting on that couch
though I didn't sit down with you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I was standing at the bar and no Eddie was
there sitting next to me. You came and said hi
to him. I turned to say hi to you, and
you completely ignored it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh I'm devastated. Yeah, okay, at least we're talking about it.
Could no.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I like this. I like this. And then the next
time I saw you was in the elevator going to
that Bruce Jenner thing.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
In that moment, you were so nice.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm like, oh my god, I have to be nice
to her.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh see, And this is what's funny. I remembered when
we met. I was like, oh, I really like his wife. Good.
He has a nice one. She's full, she's kind. Great.
You thought I was a bitch, And then in the elevator,
in my mind, I was nice because I remembered our history,
thinking we liked each other, and I thought, oh, she
(15:13):
does not like them. So it was like, flip, it's
not I didn't. It's not that I don't like you.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You I didn't have a good experience with you before that,
but again, we all change. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't
like obviously the situations I was in, we were in
identical situations.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
On the literal. So we've never talked about this. But
and I'm friends with Mary Joe.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I do know that, and I but I didn't know
if you guys were still friends, like, I know, since
Dean and I like, because she and I like came
around and everything was good and then it was it
just like flip flop.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You guys aren't good now though, I don't know. I
just moved to Canada, so I would. I would move
to Canada honestly, I want to be here, Yeah, because
of what's happening here.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh because yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Mean Canada everyone's just nice, are they?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, well they pretend to be nice.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I'll take it, pretend all day. But yeah, so we
should probably get into that, right, Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I mean you were first, so you were you were
the og.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, it's not a good thing to be first on.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So my husband cheated with a person on a movie set.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He met TV. Movie they did, right, okay, and then
you met TV exact same way, but the parallels were
like wild, I was.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
The wife at home and and he cheated with his
co star and Mary Joe was the wife at home. Yes,
and you cheated with her husband, who cheated with you?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean correct.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I don't blame one a man, a man or the woman,
but I blame both of them. I hate been like, oh,
she stole your man, Like you can't still a man
if he doesn't want to leave. Wait, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So there was a lot of that like yeah, yeah, homewrecker,
like like you stole my husband. Noah, I don't even
know she said that. Other people were like you stole
her husband. I mean it was the narrative for a
couple of years straight, a couple of yeah, everyone brings
(17:15):
it up and it's yeah. I was like, god, I'll
take accountability for everything, Like I could have said no
at any point, like you're married, you have kids, like oh,
and I didn't. It takes two people. I don't believe
you can steal a human. That's how everyone's like, don't
you hate her for that?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm like, I hate him because we had two beautiful
little kids and that was his choice.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I just got the hills same.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's hard to talk about it because it does like
bring I'm sorry, No, it's okay, because that's obviously a conversation.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We're going to have.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But you know, the man isn't forced into getting hard
and having.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Sex with you. So I mean that's on him and
it's in you. Yeah, yeah, it's that's on him. I
just got that. Oh you're funny.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It took me a second of process. Wow, I'm usually
quicker than that one. But wait, So, originally did Mary
Joe reach out to you? I believe so, I think so, right,
Please I read it. I don't know. We've never none
of us have talked about Mary Joe and I haven't
talked about it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
She was doing it. I think she was like the
original podcaster and she was having me on this a
long time ago. And I've had my podcast for fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Wait, I thought she was on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
She had interested, she had, she's had a podcast for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
She had it was one different incarnations, Yes, right, it
was this one in Canada.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't remember, Okay, but then I don't even remember
how we ended up meeting up. But she then hooked
me up with the skincare line to work for, and
so over the years we've just always like looked out
for each other, right, And so she's just been like, like,
I have to move, but I don't know where I'm moving.
She's trying to help me find a place. She's a
good she's a good.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Friend, and I love her.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And it sucks what happened. He sucks what happened to me.
But I don't think that it's your fault or it's leanceval.
I think it's every everyone's fault. How I was handled
after sucked because everything's in the public and it's hard
enough to go through it privately.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, and then I mean you got a lot of
hate as well. I mean, you know, people are mean,
and it was it was not fun.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And now you're divorced, right, that's crazy and you have
like twenty kids.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, goes around, comes around it, and you said that
I don't but I'm just kidding. But I don't believe
it happened to me.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I don't want that, but you have a lot that
for my kids, Like, I don't want them to have
to go through another ever, because I know, I mean,
divorce fox kids up.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It really does. Yeah can And I don't know what
your situation was like, but for us, like it got
to the point where it was worse for the kids
to see us together because we could no longer hide
what was happening and the fights, and for so long
I hit it from them the best I could. I
(20:20):
lost my voice for doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
If you have to leave a bad relationship, you have
to leave.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I was like, the kids are saying I had.
Some of my kids were like, mom, I just remember
my daughter Hattie and especially like with girls, like, I'm like, oh, man, also,
I don't even know how you do. She looked at
me and she goes, I'm scared to talk to you
about this if you're not ready. I go, what, baby?
And she's like, have you ever considered what it would
(20:46):
be like to be with someone else and not dad
and get treated right? And I was like oh, and
she was she loves her dad, it's not that, but
she just saw and grants it. Look at me, I'm
still covering, like I still have that thing protect me
because that's the father and my children. So I mean,
and he's an addict, so he was going through a
(21:08):
lot of stuff, but a lot of it was taken
down on me. And she saw that, and and I
didn't like the person I was because I'm trying to
raise strong humans and here I am just taking it
and being like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and it's like,
what am I doing? Right? So it was better for
us to yeah, no, I mean I think no, I mean,
(21:28):
but yes, he's cheated on me.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Really yeah, I didn't know that. Oh that sucks, but
I mean we kind of had to come in.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Sorry. That was on my show, True Torri. It was
like happening, and she and I had a conversation on
the show, which actually ended up being a good conversation,
and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I don't think she has any will towards you at all,
Like she doesn't say anything negative ever, and I and
I told her I was coming to do your podcast.
She's like, oh god, that's good, but then you have
to do mine. I'm like I've been saying I will
do her, but I'm moving and so I don't know
where I'm going. I'm just it's been a hectic time
with health issues and all the other shit on my plate.
Right now, I'm just like, yes, for sure. So, I mean,
(22:15):
you've been in Hollywood a long time now. I'm like,
for like, your iconic Beverly Hills was like it's still
like talked about and now you're here and you're like
you've been through it, would you do it all the
same again?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Do you want to say that question for your podcast?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
When I because I feel like we're just gonna I
feel like we're just interviewing each other kind of in
a way, but.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Not even interviewing, like like we get to talk like
this is an opportunity. It's like I've actually always wanted
to talk to you about this, and it's like, Okay,
here's a good excuse. I may more fun nowt like
having drinks and talking about it. But yeah, so I
forgot the question. Okay, would I do it all again?
Like just knowing the outcome? If you knew the outcome?
Which part?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, that's I guess the affair in the first place,
and marrying him.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I gotta say, I think about that all the time.
But if the journey had been different, I wouldn't have
my five kids, and those kids are my everything. So no,
I wouldn't change I wouldn't change the journey. I think
we could have gone back and handled it better.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, so there's that, but yeah, but the outcome, Yeah, listen,
I did not want to get a divorce. I found
out he cheated. I went to therapy with him, and
then I found out there was other people, and then
(23:47):
I'm like, okay, you're gone. I can't if it was
one time, one person. People make mistakes. I don't think
being an actor is natural, like to make out with people.
It's not a natural thing. Not to be attracted to
everyone's like, oh, there's lights and cameras and we're exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You have to hide like some sort of mystry.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
If you're attracted at all, that's got to be fun.
If you hate the person, not so fun, right, But
I mean, I just don't think it's natural. And of
course he's always the good looking guy who takes his
shirt off and makes that with everyone on camera.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
That couldn't have been easy for you. Oh it sucked
for years to see that. How long were you guys married?
Eight years?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Put together for thirteen?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, I mean, oh I was. I would look up.
I would this is like I.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Would go online and go to wire images. That's all
we have at the time, and just trying to find
out who this person was.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I still use it, but and just I'm like, okay,
is she tall? Is she short? And you know, at
the end of the day, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They're all like I found out about many and they
were all different shapes and sizes, and I had to
come to the realization it wasn't me, it's him, because
I mean I was doing I was being the best
wife I could be. It broke my heart, and I
think in a way, I still I'm still mad at
(25:05):
him for taking my kids away half the time because
I lost half their lives, right, and so I still
hold a little resentment. And I mean, we get along fine,
we spend holidays together, and it's I know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I see I mean obviously I'm a viewer as well,
so like I see you on Instagram and everything, and
it gave me hope. I know when we split, like
co parenting can work out. Why did you guys splat
June twenty twenty three. I was so soon. I took
my decade just hanging out. I was.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I was at war with them for ten years. I
just it was horrible, but I never let the kids
know it. I even went to therapy with them to
stop having them triangulate the kids because they were getting
caught in the middle. I'm like, this is our mess,
don't fuck with up my babies, and they're like, you
went and sat in therapy with Eddie and Leanne. I'm like, yeah,
(26:00):
that's great. I sure they did, because at that point
my heart was broken and all I cared about was
my kids, and it was it was really fun therapy.
Actually I got to say so many things.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like cathartic, really like.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But then I kept changing the therapist because the therapists
kept agreeing with me. We had like three different therapists.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh no, so they didn't find it fair. We're going
to find someone else. Oh my god, Well, because you
were right. But it's wild, like all I know are
being really kind of with actors or people in the business.
I don't know if a male actor can ever be
not turned on. I know, no, I feel because it's
(26:41):
also there's an ego that goes alongside it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Are athletes, actors and musicians are all.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Like they can't be with an athlete musician. Yes, I
haven't been with either. Should I add to my thelast
single don't You're No?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Wait? Like I just said, yeah, those three are off
the table. You need like a banker, like someone who
let you be. I have this theory there can only
be one star in the relationship.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Oh my god. My mom has said that before. See
she was because she was my dad for your you know,
and she was like, you got to know the Eddie
was a star.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I was happy to be at home make the food,
and he wanted me to stop modeling.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I did.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I raised the kids, and I feel that's why I
felt like.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Wait, why do he want you to stop modeling? Couldn't
you do both?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Because when you need to travel.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, and so like when I would be gone, he
would be like, what are you doing. I'm like, I'm
not doing what you were doing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But no, he just, you know, had she find out
about others, so she asking to know. I don't care. Oh,
I forgot about this. I watched this. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
After the thing came out, then sena thing came out
and she was like on Access Hollywood doing a sit
down about how Eddie cheated on her with Leanne and
I have a baby in diapers running around and I'm
sitting there on my couch.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's how you found out, yes, from watching Access Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And I was like is this I literally was like
I'm being punked.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
This cannot be raw. And that's when it was like
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And then we Eddie and I had a conversation that
he still says he never had with me that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He said, it's not you, it's me.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I've always cheated from day one, and then it was
just us having that conversation.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
We wouldn't forget women never free.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And when I brought it back up, He's like, I
never said that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Of course, I'm like, okay, nothing against him, right, but
I'm just husband for me. Wait, I am sure this
has been out there, But how did you find out
about Lianne?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Or he told you it was No, it was on
Perez Hilton and what I'm in, like the drives, like
to drop off the kids at school we were leaving
that day, or my best friend was marrying Bruce was
and we're going to fly to Terce and Caicos or
the wedding and the two of you.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yes, and she only invited fecause okay, and so she
only invited four.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well yeah, it was like a private Oh okay, Demi
and Ashton, me and Eddie and then Kristin and Josh
are other friends.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So that was an anxiety, what's going to happen here? Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, no, I I went because and Perez it had
the cover of US Weekly. So I ran to the
store and she's on the cover, says Leann's affair was
a married man.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh it didn't say who, Well, yeah I did, No,
it did did How did he find out?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know how, you know how like.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
These taboys work, they reached out to you for a response.
So he knew, and he chose not to give me
any warning at all.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Oh wait, okay, Eddie knew. Eddie knew. But so like
how helplessis would say, like this is coming out.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He didn't give me any heads up. So I'm hearing
it from all the moms. And then I go home
and then I see it like Perez, and then I
go to the store. I get as quickly it's on
the cover like this hole and there's like pictures and
it's just.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know, I knew, I said pictures like someone
got pictures of them. Yes, the person released it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, someone got a picture of them making out.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
It's very suss.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I think she wanted it to come out so that
she could have her man, because I don't think that
he was trying to leave if he wasn't caught.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
If that makes sense, it makes sense. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, so I just said, listen, it's not about us,
it's about my best friend just getting married and we're
not talking about this. I don't know how I did it.
I was way stronger back then, and we didn't and
I had the time of my life at that wedding.
Did not give two fucks. I got sucked up.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I deserve a lot of things. I didn't have sex
with anyone. You have sex with him?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, because I mean you kept feeling like the last time.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I just I that and it was all that, like
that last weekend jen Anison. It wait what it wasn't No,
I can't. I forgot it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But because when we got back, he wouldn't move out
of the house, so he moved into the guest room,
and so then we would get in huge horrible fights.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Wouldn't have because it was his house? Okay yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Would he his? Was your house together? What was this thing?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I paid for it, it's my house, I'm not moving
But he did, okay all that to you? Oh okay? Yeah?
Was he like you can move out?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, he just went to the guest room and put
lock on the door. Because I did really want to
kill him a couple of times. I mean I was like, yeah,
you better lock that door, motherfucker. But then we get
in fights and then we'd have sex, and.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So I'm like, you have to leave, Oh my god,
but that yeah, God, I've been there, and that makeup
sex is really yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
It's not even makeup sex because you know, it's like
it's like torture sex, like yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
This is last time? Do I love you? You broke
my heart? Why am I here? What's happening it? It
almost feels like the first time sex again? No? Am
I wrong here? I'm only associating it because when Dean
cheated on me publicly, the only reason it came out
is because the girl it happened with sold a story.
It was coming out US Weekly. The week of Christmas.
(32:50):
My publicist called and was like, heads up, we can't
kill you. It's coming out. So I told him though,
and then we had to, like that nightgo and he
was like I don't remember that maybe, And we had
to go to the kids Christmas performance and I was
like knowing walking in, like people there were like, oh,
(33:12):
it's Torri and Dean. Oh their kids are so cute
and da da da da, And I was like him, No,
I was like in two days, like the world's gonna know,
because they were like, it's not going out for two days.
It came out two days before Christmas. Yeah, and then
I tried to get us into therapy because so the
(33:32):
night it happened and we went to the Christmas thing,
we came back, my best friend, who like gets paranoid
about everything is she's like, he's like, I'm going to
sleep in the other room. Obviously, like we weren't talking
about things, just going on, gonna celebrate Christmas, kids are home,
and she's like locked the bedroom door. I'm like, why
is he going to hurt me? And he's going to
(33:53):
kill me? And then she's just lock it. I don't know,
you don't know what's going to happen. So I tried
to get us into therapy and be like sos, doctor Waxler,
like we got a problem here, and yeah, that's when
he said he wanted to convince suicide. So we never
even talked about the affair. She had to put him
on a fifty one fifty and he's talked about I know, sorry,
(34:14):
I know it's not an easy way out there. I've
had so many friends that said that, and then we
never dealt with.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
They say that they're a sex addict. That that I'm like, okay,
well that isn't that, you know, convenient. I'm not saying
that Deane wasn't messed up. I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I don't know him. I don't know him at all.
I just remember that one time, like and then I
threw myself into like, oh my gosh, the holidays. I'm
here with the kids. Had you know, we just said dad's,
dad's off healing and they're like, my son was seven
at the time. He's like, oh, because of his anger issues.
I was like yeah, and he's I can read at
(34:49):
that point. That's why he was like, oh my gosh.
So he's at a hospital and I said, is it
uc that. I was like yeah, you know, I didn't
say what it was for. And he goes, I hope
they have surgery on him and they take out his
anger and I was like, oh my god, but yeah.
I remember going to visit him at UCLA and just like,
are you okay? I forgot like repressed everything that he
(35:12):
had just cheated on me. We had a fourteen month
old and I'm like, oh my god, and are you okay?
I'm here for you. Talk to all the doctors. But
we did have sex in the bathroom at his room
at UCLA and it was okay, and it was and
the sex was really good. And I thought about it
for a really long time, like what is wrong in me?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
You're punishing yourself that I yeah, I mean, that's just
it's part of when you're in love with someone. Yeah,
And like to this day, I haven't been in love
like I was with Eddie and I don't think I
will again. And hopefully no, No, I mean I've I've
loved people that haven't been Like maybe true love the
(35:57):
second time is totally different.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You closed your heart up, So look what happened the
first time. I mean I did.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I had I've had relationships like a couple of a
couple of years when I was like, I just I
don't let anyone get that close.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You know, it's who closed your heart up. It's hard to.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Also didn't trust people because of the TV situation, and
like guys that want to be on camera that scares me.
That would scare me, right, So I wouldn't want to
be on housewives ever. If I was a dude, I'd
be like, let the ladyes fight it out and.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
They would want to when they when you were in
that situation? Interesting, okay, and.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That was always a red flag. Yeah, and that episode
do you like me? Or do you like the fact
that am I like a prize that you're like, Oh,
it's like a fun trick like trick pony. Oh yeah,
I'm dating that one girl and like I'm on TV
look and not really into me?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Or do you really like me? You know what I mean?
So it was just weird.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I have trust issues, yes him, Yeah, as you should.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Are you dating anyone now?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
With my health issues, I haven't. I want to do years. No,
it's like celibate for two years.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Not by choice, but yeah, because I just don't. I've
I've lost my security in my looks, I'm so insecure.
I isolate and god basses.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I don't leave my house. I don't do a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I did shoot a music video and they did touch
up my face with their digitizing thing because they were
so nice.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So can we talk about your face? Sure? So I
don't know what I read online, So I'm not sure
where you're at with it. So when did it start?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
So? I came back from Morocco in January two years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That was the Real Housewives Girls trip right that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Ruined my life. Six months later, I started to swell up.
My face was swelling up, and it would swell in
one sur oh no, and then go to the other side,
and then it was I have pictures and then it
would flip flop. So it seemed like there was something
alive and they're moving around, so I'm like, there's got
to be some parasite.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I got like there's something which can happen. It can,
but I.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Don't believe it's parasite now. But we still don't have answers.
It's been a lot of doctor's appointments and a lot
of money and unfortunately we don't have answers yet. And
I know there's a problem, Like my kids are, you know,
they were like my head sometimes feels like there's so
much pressure inside my head in my neck that it's
(38:34):
going to explode. I have to constantly chew gum. That's
why I'm cheating them now.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
It keeps my head from exploding because the pressure it
keeps it moving so that my limps actually drained because
my ted chairs like it's like bursting bubbles. It's disgusting.
But the problem is I have kaiser, that's my problem.
And I went to probably a dozen thirteen doctors there
and no well at all, and so I started, you know,
(39:03):
paying out of pocket and and the midst of all
of this, I'm not working. All my jobs canceled because
of because you couldn't work. Well wait, the Caroline stuff, Well,
the narrative when we got back from Morocco was I
was fired for being appropriate with Caroline Mansow and I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I was had I miss this one?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, well I don't know because it's ruined my life.
But I got six six months later. But those six
months I was in a feedt up position on my couch,
like contemplating suicide, being called horrible things by It's so
crazy that the press has so much power, like blogged
these bloggers they went, they went from gave her lap dance,
(39:44):
to kissed her unwantingly, to sexually harassed her, then to
rape like this is how and there's like two thousand articles.
And so I was supposed to go after Australia. I
had all these jobs like that, and everything canceled and
and it wasn't even I'm like, just wait for the
show to air at least like come.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
On, I'm sorry. Yeah, so like a hustling mom and like.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You're just like this right, And then I lost my
looks at the same time because I was I literally
at fifty one, started only fans because I did not.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Have are you on? Only fans? I am?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Because I didn't have income for six months and I
was like going through my savings and so I started
that I was making good money, and then my face
started being crazy. So then I couldn't really even do
that because they're like, Okay, we don't want any more
pictures of your feet or your mask with you with
a mask on, because I was trying to hide my face.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So it just fee fund Yeah, I just do you
have good feet? No, I have bunions, But people like them.
It's weird, that's the thing they like that they are.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
But so then it's just been a really tough tough time.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
And then now.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Still not having a diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I imagine that's the hardest. Is I fear the unknown and.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Just skidy frustration like something's But luckily some women have
reached out to me on social media and they've had
very very similar things happening to their face. And they've
helped me so much to know what tests to ask for,
know what, like you need to get a fungal panel
because we had black mold poisoning a long time ago,
(41:29):
so they think that could be part of this. Totally
a fungal infection. Because we had it so bad, we
got like a settlement from the landlord. And my son
had it the worst. But luckily for them, they got.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Money from it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Like you know, when Jake turns eighteen, ye'll have his
little nest egg that Mason had, so it's good.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
We were supposed to do that, and I couldn't deal
with the lawyers and going to all the doctors to
get the proof.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
No, I didn't have insurance. I was like just buying
everything on Amazon and sitting in my house like.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
It was.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
It's the worst. And I've never felt fully back from
that point. But then if there's a I had a
dental infection that no one knew about. It was under
a bridge, and I kept telling my dentist, I'm like,
there's something under there. It's really bothering me. He's like,
we can see through it on the extra you're fine.
And finally I took it out myself I got some
(42:22):
yarn and some super flasks and I pulled it down
and there was a completely rotted tooth. So and he
told you this fine, and that bridge had been there
for like ten years.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So I don't I still I have.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I think it was like a perfect storm of all
shit things that happened and we still are figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, my kids are still not okay, some worse than others. Yeah,
there took. It took. I don't know if you guys
had this with the black mold, but like neurologically, there
would be things well I can't I couldn't see. It
would just be like a delay or small And they
did this thing. We went to this not Easter medicine,
but like, yeah, they did all this the studies and
(43:07):
they'd deal with mold and it's for people, like they think.
I was like walking a straight line and count from
one to ten, and I'd be like, in my balance,
I couldn't walk and count at the same time because
my brain was trying to count. My other brain side
(43:27):
of my brain was trying to walk straight. And the
same thing were happening with my kids. Yeah, and it
was like we were all like my daughter would be like,
were where's this on the counter? And I was like,
I just told you, baby, And then it was right
in front of her and I'd be like, oh my god.
I'd be like She's like, oh, I didn't even I
can see it. Like every rental, I like, I'm still renting,
(43:48):
but I have it same. I have it checked for
black mold first, because we were so sick. Mason was
really like the worst. He had anaphylaxis almost every day
and or the school is like, oh, why are the
kids always so sick? Are you just not getting them
to school? That's that's how mine got checked out, is I.
One of the schools was like, we need to do
a zoom with the district and have like it was
(44:11):
wild and I said and a friend, actually, Jenny Garth,
said to me, you ever had your house check from Aldama?
It's just rental And she's like, yeah, you're good check
giving there. You have to check it. That's the reason
I checked it. And then the school still didn't care,
but like no, but it we got out like it's
I could have gone a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Like people don't understand you like I could. I had
the worst anxiety in my life. I didn't leave that
condo that we were living in. I couldn't see my
hair was falling out my I like, thank god. My
friend from Miami came over and he's like, there was
a leak in the ceiling. I ask the landlords to
fix it, like twenty times. They left it for four
months and he's like, you know what this game? Like,
(44:54):
I go, I don't know, but it smells horrible. He's like,
this is black mold. He's like, we have it everywhere
in Flora, like you need. He's like, this is why
you're feeling this way. This is why your skin is gray.
This is why you look this way. And I had
not felt one hundred since then. But we got out
of there, you know, and I got a lawyer because
(45:15):
we were all so sick.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, I should have gone forward with it. I didn't.
I didn't want to deal with more trust lawyers right now,
and it's lawyer than just like forget it and then
going through a divorce at the same time. I'm like, okay,
so I let that one go.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Sometimes just easier to say to get a lawyer do this.
I'm like I did for that, but I'm like, all.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
It doesn't stress me out. Why why not just.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Keep it moving and see what happened when I kept
it moving.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
You want to be well, you want to be happy.
You deserve that. But people online do tell you more.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Because they've gone through this woman. I don't even know
if it's the same thing. But would she say she
thought she's she sent me this. It's Tricka trica minosis.
I have a written down, but it's a fungal infection
that her and thirty other women have in Boulder, Colorado,
because they went to a doctor that gave them filler
(46:16):
that was not like some bogus as filla.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And so I'm like, well, even though everyone thought I
was doing too much filler and they always commented on it,
I wasn't like I had stopped, but my face I
looking back, it was still growing. So I think probably
the dental infection had a baby with the filler, you
know what I mean, Like the infection got into the
filler and now there's a fungle.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I don't know. I just honestly want someone to open
up my face and get rid of it. Oh my gosh.
And you're working with doctor Dubrow or no, yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
So he was speaking about me on TMC. So I
reached out to him because I said, if you're going
to talk about me, you might as well help me.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's fine, yeah, right, and like that's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Unfortunately we haven't we haven't come to any He thought
it was filler too.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
It's not filler.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's like it's not filler.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
And I'm like, you know, it's a fungle. How do
you find that?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Though, Well, they have to test for it. The test, well,
it's a culture they have to do.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
But he didn't.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I thought he had done that.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
But he did not, so so they'd have to open
up in your face to.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Go in or well he took three biopsies, okay, so
I thought we were testing for fungal.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Again.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I feel like it's so much more on the inside
of my like inside of my mouth because all drains
into my mouth, Like it might be better to go
inside my mouth.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
And do it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
So I'm seeing this new dentist and he's trying to
help me. So I'm I'm like explaining all avenues because.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
The pressure and neck it's makes sense, but it's all
adding up, like but it's getting worse.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
And like when when like an infectious disease doctor or
that kaiser, like you're fine, you're not getting antibiotics, and like,
I'm not here trying to get norco's. I need an
antibiotic because I do feel better on antibiotics. And the
one time I felt really good was that I had
IVY antibiotics and an IVY fungal treatment. But I couldn't
(48:17):
afford to keep it going because it was two thousand
dollars a week and I was paying out a pocket
and so I finished early, and because I looked normal again,
I'm like, fucky, I'll just finish and I should have
kept going. And now I just have to find a
doctor to put me back on that.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
And it's just so what do people do. I'm just asking, like,
if you don't have insurance or good insurance and you
don't get see good doctors, like.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
That's all they care about is good fucking money. I'm like,
I don't care what it costs. Like I had a rest,
like I rescued this dog. I had a rescue tuala
and that same vet for seven thousand dollars for a
rattlesnake bite which I didn't have. But of course I'll
find it. Yeah, I'll get another credit card to.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Have a lot. Yeah, for our babies, for our for babies.
Will do anything anything. I will pay for hair.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's like the one thing I cannot give up because
when my hair's out, I do not feel good, like
it's even It's like amplified by a hundred million.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
I yeah, so most girls got it that don't that
use have natural hair and use them a little bit
of fluff on.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Top of it. Mine's more than that. He's trying to
you have a single coming out? Talk about one second.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, so we have music coming out myself and two
Australian pop stars.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
They reached out to me.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Well, one is my manager and my friend James. He's
really famous in Australia.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
James, is this true? James is here on the.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Side and he's handsome. And they asked you to do
like a little a rap for the there a rap.
Yeah I don't sing so, but I like, yeah, sure,
So I wrote a up in it. It's actually really fun.
My kid and I let my kids listen to it
and they were mortified after they heard my first song
because I did a rap song. It was just a joke,
(50:10):
but they were like, not good, mom, but I still
put it out. I didn't care.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Our kids can be so judging, you know what. I
like it like, but yes, they like, Mom, that's dank.
That's all I hear now from teens means good. No
dank to us. Yeah, my eighteen said the other day
and I was like, oh, I'm still He's like, no, Mom,
Jane means awesome. I'm like, okay, if I.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Say anything that like with their lingo, they like. I'm like,
I'm like, that's she liked an out of pocket and like,
that's my lingo. But they're like, please do not say
out of pocket. I'm like, that was what we were
saying in ye say it if I want to say it, like,
but their lingo, they're like, I just I say it
in the wrong way on purpose to make them.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I'm like, why did it hit different? I don't like
who hit you?
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Like, no, it hit different?
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
But anyway, my daughter may we put pants on the
other day. I had like a slip dress on and
little like booty shorts underneath you couldn't see anything. And
she's like, I'm gonna say this in the nicest way, Mom,
can you put on pants. I'm like, I'm wearing pants
and she's like, no, like long pants, like those are shorts.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I'm so glad I don't have girls. I don't because
I walk around like this is a lot of clothes
for me. I walk around in simsuits I like have
and my stupid dogs. I love them because they're so
comfortable in my house and like the kids are so
used to seeing me, like with barely any clothes on.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
It doesn't FaZe them, thank god. But sorry I interrupt
you usually Australia, James.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
And it's called remedy. So it's yes, there's a little
teaser on my Instagram now.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
So people can go, okay, I have to go listen. Sorry,
sorry and listening okay, okay, yeah, it'll be fun. It's
a really fun like what are you wearing it? Oh
my god. I have the best clothes, like mostly James's clothes.
I like, the girl's got the best clothes.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
The boy's just the boy. He's handsome enough. He doesn't
need great though. He did look like a pirate and
I had to change it. I'm taking this off, and
don't you put those glasses on. But the girls, we
look good. We had a great stylist. Okay, that comes
out April ninth. Yes, okay, I'm really excited. I got
(52:28):
to tell you, and I know what it's like feeling
insecure and what anyone else says, we can't hear it
at all. I'm sitting right with you, and I know
you're going through so much physically and emotionally. I think
you look beautiful. Oh thank you. You really really When
you walked out of the room to talk to the bed,
I was telling my prodiser, I'm like, she's a fucking
(52:50):
gorgeous in person. You're very sweet, but you know, but
I know we have our own things that we feel.
But also if I took this, I like you without makeup.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, I have this like Peter Thomas Roth mask on
and it tightens everything up.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Wait, what's that? I want that one my purse. I'll
show you. But it lasts for about two hours, so
you're it's like Cinderella is I used to have something
like that.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
It lasts for two hours, and it's like it makes
it all smooth and then starts sinking in again and
turning different colors.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
So that's fun.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
But it's a great mask until I can figure this out.
That's what I'll be wearing.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
I want you to figure it out. I'm excited to
come on your podcast. We have more to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
I think I feel like we can day same.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I'm glad we got that all clear. I know. I'm so.
I'm so sorry you thought I was a bitch when
I first hit you. Okay, I mean, listen, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I feel like we're all allowed to change, right, I'm.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
No, I keep saying change. I promise you I wasn't
a bitch. No, I know, but I probably keep across
like you're.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
Famous and Eddie, like you only talk to Eddie and
I you know what I mean, famous people. I think
that you're probably more scrutinized because because I don't know
if I was some random person in an ovator.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
That's my big thing, My entire life is because of who.
My dad was never wanting anyone to think, like, oh,
the rich girl, she's going to be a bitch, that
I was a bitch, so I was usually overly out
of the way. But I'm also always been super insecure,
so I probably it was probably an everything in me
to go up to him to say hi, because I
don't like seeing like seeing people I don't, I don't.
(54:32):
We were like, you know them, go say hi. I'm like,
I don't know, I'm scared. I'm scared, and then like
I'm sorry, well you know what, I forgive you.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
It's fine and we'll do this again.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
This was fun.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, I'm sorry I was a little late. But the dog,
she is my Her name's Lady, Lady for lady
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Sorry for lady, persh for Lady.
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