November 16, 2020 • 64 mins
Tori and Jennie are watching the first episode and dishing on every juicy moment.
Joining Tori and Jennie are two special guest stars from the pilot episode.
Hunky, Maxwell Caulfield (Jason Croft) describes his character inappropriately dating "Brenda" and saving Shannen Doherty's life. Plus, his heartfelt memories of Tori's dad Aaron Spelling make Tori emotional.
Then, Leslie Bega joins in. Will Tori and Jennie admit their fascination with a certain body part?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi everybody, welcome back.
This is our our first real episode of Now Too.
And o MG, we've been having some some problems, so Tory,
can you hear me? I can? I can hear you?
Can you see me here? Can you hear me? Now?
Unfortunately I can hear you very clearly. Yes, Okay, do
(00:26):
you want me to stop talking? No? Not yet. But
but it's the podcasting is for the young. This is
stressful getting the microphone to work because we're not tech savvy.
But you know what, Pat on the back, we are
doing a really good job because it's happening like Donkey Kong. Well,
(00:47):
I mean it's a little hectic. Everywhere I think is
just like kicking all of our asses. Right. Are my alone? No,
You're definitely not alone. Yeah. I feel like it's been
a lot and everybody's stressed out. I'm really stressed out
all the time, and it's a lot. So I kind
of felt weird about starting a podcast, you know, in
(01:08):
this moment. I don't know if you felt that. Yes
and no, because I feel like people are really excited.
They want to go back to happier times, They want
to be comforted. They want to laugh and smile, and
that's so. I guess it's kind of like, we'll just
(01:29):
consider our shows self care. Then instead of TV. You
watch show that I like that, let's go that. Give
yourself an hour and listen to our show. Speaking of
listening to our show, they probably like to talk about
about the show. That's right. Yeah, we're here. We're here
to give you all the fields. We're jumping right into
(01:50):
the Yeah, the pilot. Why do they call it a pilot?
I don't know. Maybe that's something we should have googled
before we did a podcast, but I have no idea. Well,
sleep the first episode, first episode, okay, first episode? Yeah,
the first episode was was long, longer than the regular episodes, right,
(02:11):
it was like ninety minutes? Is that correct? No? I
was watching and I was like, oh my god, this
is the longest episode of TV I've ever seen. Or
did they divide it when they aired it into two episodes? Uh?
They we talked about that last week. You're right, they
divided it. I think the rest of them are going
to be like long. Yeah, I tell you what, Yeah,
(02:34):
we're going to talk about the show now. Yeah, let's
do it, all right, right, I watched the show back
and are you gonna talk or am I gonna talk?
What do you think? We watched it together? Go go
over zoom right? Well, okay, so we did. This is
the first time we have ever watched the show together,
and we did. I'm not gonna lie. I it took
(02:56):
me back to us being teenagers and literally like we
giggled and had commentary overclothes and boys and I don't know,
and it made me miss you wore because we're not
in the same city right now. I know I really
loved watching it with you too, and because I had
somebody to talk about everything with and maybe that understood, right,
(03:17):
they don't know all my jokes or whatever. So you
watched it? How how much did you love it? Though?
I love the way the show opens. It's like super colorful,
like beautiful things everywhere. It's creates right out of the gate,
a world you want to go to, you want to visit, right, Like,
I don't know. I love the cinematography on the pilot.
(03:40):
I agree. Like I'm getting the chills just hearing you
say that, because it's true, even though you know I
I grew up in that world. So for me to
be able to sit back and watch it as just
a viewer and be like, yeah, I'm transfixed. I want
to be with these people. You grew up in that world.
I grew up on a farm basically, and so that
(04:03):
was the whole new world to me and and they
It's still like I still want to be a part
of it when I look at it. I mean it's
definitely embellished for the sake of TV, you think, but
we'll get but we'll get to that. Should we start
at the beginning? Okay, okay, let's do it like the
way Brandon Walls wakes up with perfectly jelled hair, like
(04:24):
the mullet off. Oh my god, you just destroyed the
illusion of like we all want to believe that Jason
Priestley actually you know what, you guys, I'm gonna go
with he probably did wake up with care. I would
believe it too, back in back in the day. Yeah,
he always looked good, not that he doesn't now, but
(04:45):
like he's a handsome, distinguished man, you know, but that
moment he just turned fifty, has two kids. But then
he was just like, wait, can I say that? You
know what he was as a teen girl, He was
a dream boat. Can you say that? Were you worried
that was a bad word? Boat? Like a six year
(05:10):
old girl? He was eight year olds, don't they did
in the fifties. So hello, I'm like going back to
a different era. I'm just bringing it all back. Okay, okay,
But he was dreaming, he was dreaming. Absolutely, Yeah. I
thought the whole beginning was just so compelling and like,
(05:32):
I just wanted to spend my time with them. Can
you imagine like people watching it all over the country,
all over the world, and like that that image and
that lifestyle that was all of a sudden exposed to
them they had never seen. I don't think the audience
had ever seen like Beverly Hills like that, or you
know how teens live in Beverly Hills. No way, I'm
(05:55):
gonna just spel the myth. It doesn't. It's not like
that they're glad we have Valet park. There is no
valet parking, no, no. But it was it was a
nice add a touch, like, so you went to this school,
you went to like Beverly Hills High in real life,
I goes again, you guys, here's my best friend, has
(06:15):
no idea where I went to school. No, I love
this about you. Guys. Wait, I knew you went to school.
At least I knew that I didn't go to school.
Did you know that I did know that. M I'm
street smart, not books at all. Did you really not
go to school? Well, I went to my sophomore year
and I didn't like it, so I stopped going. You
(06:41):
start working? You started working so young that you then No, No,
that part I didn't know. I well, I just moved
here from Arizona. I shouldn't go off on a tangent.
People don't care about this, that this is what they
care about. They do care about I care. I want
to hear this. I'm super fascinated. Starting talk quick. Then
we we just moved here when I decided to be
(07:03):
an actress, and I was going to re enroll in
high school because I left between my freshman and sophomore
year and um or maybe a sophomore junior. I think
it was sophomore junior. So I went to tour school
in l A. And and this is this. You know,
it's a big city and there's a lot going on.
I was so overwhelmed and like scared that I said, Mom,
I can't do it. I can't. I can't go in there,
(07:24):
and I knew no one. I was too freaked out
by it. And she was so cool about it. She
um like, she said, it's okay, we'll get you a
G E D and you don't have to go. So
that's what I did. Wow, well you started when you
were like sixteen. Anyways, so yes, shortly after we moved
(07:45):
to town. But anyway, that's enough about me. You just
lived the rest of your hearme, do you mean enough
about you? This is literally a podcast about the two
of you. I thought about Melly. The podcast is over guys,
but no, the show is about Kelly and Donnon. What
was it like seeing your guys names in the credits
for the first time, even just rewatching it last time?
(08:07):
Go you say first? Every time I see my name,
I get excited, like, okay, I did it. We do
you do that too? I don't like when no one's watching,
and I hope. I try to get room to cheer,
but it doesn't really catch on. They're here with my wine.
(08:29):
I don't know what to do. You grab that wine,
get it, get it, go leave? You can are the
children bringing you to This is real life? Mom? Goals.
Is that a certain name? Oh, it's a beer. I
(08:50):
think it's a beer. Whatever it does, drink it. Are
you signing the check? Yes? This is so good. Um
Tories in a hotel room right now because she's filming
stuff something. Thank you so much for bringing that up.
We're filming something too, Hello, thank you so much. So
(09:12):
back to the show. So the credits they brought sharnay.
You know I don't drink shar Now that's the issue.
I get it. I get it. It's disappointing, but I
think you can handle handle. Just a switch for today
for tonight. Fine, and it fixed to day's tested and approved. Alright,
(09:34):
let's talk about the show. Were you excited to? You
were excited to when you saw your name in the lights?
You know what they in the credits? Well? Yes, considering. Um, so,
I have a question I wonder, like now that we
see it, and we we watched it together over Hulu,
my name was there, and I was I forget the
order like, but we all had numbers on the call sheet.
(09:58):
Do you remember your number? Three? Yeah? I think I
was eight. So there's Jason. I think so I came
right after Brian. Brian came after Luke Okay, so yeah,
but technically when we filmed this, I don't think I
was a series regular. It probably would have been like
(10:21):
co starring. But by the time it's on Hulu now
like my name's up there and I was like, oh, so,
I'm not sure if originally when it aired, probably not.
I don't know. M that's something to ask a super fan.
So the only bummer about streaming it and stuff that
I hadn't witnessed just by watching the pilot it is
(10:42):
it is the music, like what you brought up, because
all the soundtrack is completely changed. I feel sorry for
anybody that's watching it with the with a new soundtrack.
It's a lot. It's like there's so much music all
the time, and so much of you guys, let us
just day we were cutting edge, like we had all
(11:02):
of the great like brand new music that was just
infused in their right, like everything that was popular and well,
you can go in there's these websites. Do you have
You have dedicated fans that have created these websites that
show you exactly what songs were in each episode of
each season. I know, it's crazy. So it's really nice
because if you really didn't want to know. You can
(11:23):
go back and look at that. Well, I think it's
that's a good thing to do because the music in
in the new cut is horrid, But if some people
like it, then I'm happy about that because originally the
whole story was I mean, the whole story was told
with the music like it. It really set the tone
for the show. So I think we can get past it.
Did music and wardrobe, Oh the wardrobe, we were just
(11:46):
plu dispillers. Yeah, they gonna put that stuff on anybody.
So you can get to go back. Can I go
back to just as a fan because keep in mind,
like Jen never watched the show, but I want the
show with my friends weekly every Wednesday night. My actual
high school friends and I got together in a group
(12:06):
and we watched it as just like fans, just for
the first season and then and then it went on.
But um so, just seeing like the twins, seeing Brandon
and Brenda, like, oh my gosh, I don't know. Just
seeing seeing Shannon as Brenda just gave me all the
fields like that. I was like, oh my god, look
at them, Like first of all, they're dressed out of place.
(12:28):
There they drive. Jen and I were just talking about
this brown car. Let's just call a brown car. It
was the brown car. Why why that? Why did that
upset you? Because I'm a detailed persons and the details. Um,
but just seeing them like he's dreamy, she's beautiful. Yet
(12:50):
you relate to them because you're like, oh, I just
want them to win, you know, I want them to succeed.
So they were so great in the rules, like because
both of them were were just like they could play
any part. I mean, Shannon was in Heather's playing the
popular girl, and now all of a sudden, she was
like the newbie. So I thought such a testament to
their acting was really top not, Like, yeah, I was.
(13:13):
I was surprised because, like you said, I've never watched it,
and I was in instantly, Like their acting drawed me,
drew me in, and I really really thought they did
a good job too. Do you think, um, Jason in
the early episodes had almost a hint of a New
York accent. I don't know, I couldn't really hear himut like, yeah,
(13:39):
well where they were from? Them they were from the Midwest.
Where are they from again? From? No? They no, No,
she doesn't know where. It's it's definitely place Minnesota said hello,
thank you. So there's a twin there, right, isn't there?
I don't know where there is. That what he was doing,
(14:00):
he was really getting owning. He was owning it, So
I gotta be honest. I was telling Jen this last night, um,
and she's like, are you doing research? I'm like no.
It popped up on my Instagram, but it was an
interview on Instagram with Jason right when the show had
taken off first season on The Joan Rivers Show. And you, guys,
this is why I'm bringing it up. He seemed to
(14:21):
have a New York accent. It was so bizarre. And
I also told Jenn she was like, give a one
word answer for all of the cash. She said all
the cast names except for me. Um, but I still
loved Joe loved her and uh. And he described Jenny
as a he said teddy bear and then he said adorable.
(14:42):
Oh she was like a teddy bear. I'm not a
teddy bear. I'm like, I know, we're like about prickly pear, prickly,
that's so you love it. Look at she loves harassing me. Okay,
I'm not prickly, guys. I do um, I'm a teddy
(15:09):
bearr you guys, come on, don't you see it? But
that means it was probably really early on in the season.
He didn't know you yet and he just like, she's
so cute and sweet and giggles and hugs. No, I
think I used to be so much more like giggly
and like more. You know, we we're young, of course
we will all were. You are the one that you
(15:30):
just stay effer besant always and don't ever seem to mature,
I mean grow up. So now you call me ever
vescent forever. I love that word. Oh my god. I
usually like being called cute and quirky. Now I want
to be called ef Oh does that mean bubbly? Yeah,
you're like champagne. Oh I love you. You're like vodka.
(15:55):
Oh my god, this is horrible. Well we're getting This
is what makes up our dynamic. I don't want to
be Yang. Obviously you're amazing, or I wouldn't be best
friends with you. What are you talking about? Can I
be ying sometimes? Okay, it's yin and you're always yan?
I'm Yang? Did you forget how this goes? I don't
(16:18):
want to be in Jenny Tory you're yan, I'm yang.
Can we go back to the poop round car? So? Um? Oh?
(16:39):
Can we go back first of all to first seeing
Cindy Walsh Carol Potter. What a beauty m hm stunner.
How old do you think she was though when she
did the pilot? Oh? Good question. Oh geez, someone fact checked.
I think like in her mid thirties, maybe early thirties. Oh,
(17:00):
I was gonna say she was like mid forties. No way,
I mean someone fact checking. We should fact check this
because I want to talk about her versus us presently,
because we're probably about the same age as she was
playing the mom. Then. M oh interesting. Although Johnny thinks
she was like thirty one, she is seventy two. No,
(17:21):
I can't do math. Two. We just filmed with her
last summer. She looks great, you guys, thirty two, I
love you all. Could not do that math the voice.
I didn't even try. No, I didn't even try either. Math.
I can't. I don't do math. I don't math about that.
(17:45):
So think about the forty year old woman thirty years
ago as opposed to the forty year old woman today.
It's different, It's just portrayed differently. Well yeah, I mean
so many things throughout the show or portrayed differently in
today's world like our show. This episode had so many moments,
(18:07):
cringing moments for me, like where I was uncomfortable with
what they were saying. Wait, I want to go back
to like I feel like women in their forties are
allowed to look hot and young and sexy, but women
their forties then had to be the mom and it
was very like conservative and like don't you agree, no,
you're why are you getting so deep? This is like
(18:29):
this was Cindy Walsh. She was supposed to look like
that from Minnesota. I'm fascinated that they were the same,
like we're older, we're older than the mom, the parents. Okay,
well can we move on. I don't really like this game.
Okay fine. So the car, go to the car, go
to the car, the car, the ship, brown car. So
(18:52):
Jen said, the reason the car, how do you describe it?
They were setting the stage was supposed to be like
a clunker right right, and show like you know they
didn't have money. They had you know, they didn't get
new cars like the kids in Beverly Hills. They had
something news that they didn't work for they didn't fit in.
And my point to her was, though, but it didn't
(19:13):
have to be poop brown, like that's just taking it
too far. And Mondale was the car, right, Yes, the
car had a name. Why did it even have a name?
For the guys they must have named it Mondale? They mustn't,
probably the guys or or like, who's these guys they
speak up? I don't know, just the guys that made
(19:35):
all the decisions about everything. I wonder why it was Mondale.
There must be a reason, or if like Jason and
the guys just like named it that one day so
they wrote it in that's it. But it was easy
to be pooped brown because I've never seen a car,
even a clunker that's poop brown. And then you had
someone like Iron ZERI and like Steve Sanders car Ferrari.
(19:56):
His license plate even was personalized. I ate a for
are so good? You? All the cars? T shirts? Do
you have? You know? I'd like one he has? Oh
oh he has them. He'll give you one he has
market I sleep in it. I sleep in my hute.
You know. I saw also that the Nana two and
(20:17):
oh bro has um his license plate is not is
does he have it now, really yeah, on a vintage
car or something. I think I saw that in his feedom.
But other cars were so flashy and gorgeous and like
everything that was so even the teachers had crappier cars
in the students. That was that. That's when we're talking
(20:40):
about about a cringing moment, like portraying teachers like they
can't they have to park in a separate parking lot
with the with the shitty cars and the sign like
staff and facul faculty staff and faculty parking. It was
all like basting and batterned and dirty and like when
you were saying a teacher flew out of a van
(21:00):
that was straight out of like Fast Times at Richmond High.
It was like a coolie van, but the teacher was
like running like he was late. Like that was weird, weird.
I don't understand that. But when you said cringe e,
I was thinking more of like the Brenda scene where
she meets the guy at the club and like it
take her back. How do you know my cringing moments?
That is another one. When I talked about the feelings
(21:25):
about that, I get worked up. Okay, I think it's
because I have teenage daughters. But seeing wait, you're going forward,
Well can't we can't we go for Well, I think
we can because I think we actually have Maxwell ready
if we want to talk to him. Wait a second, Hi, Hi,
(21:49):
it's so good to see you. Wow, it's been a minute. Thanks,
still still ticking. So do you remember, I mean, of
course you remember being on the show and playing that character.
I have two distinct memories, um um. I. First off,
(22:11):
Tori's dad obviously gifted me the role, as he did
practically my whole career, and uh with his with his passing,
it practically ended. But at the same I double edged
sword working for Aaron because you got sort of categorized
as a spelling style actor. But it didn't mean it
(22:32):
just meant that you you know, you had a lot
of gusto and obviously you had your at the time
in that a peak of your youth. You had your
yeah yeah, my ten logs going yeah, And so that's
why that compliment means a lot, thank you, um uh.
But there was also, I think as the situation that
(22:54):
your work would be shallow, you know what I mean,
as opposed to and the best way to always tackle
work from the errand spelling uh for farm production line
was to really go at it with total gusto and
uh so. Funnily enough, my first scene was with with Shannon,
(23:15):
and she was such a trooper. It was a location.
It was some townhouse on the edge of Beverly Hills
where I guess my character owned an apartment and had
taken her back there. She was practically jail bait. Kind
of creepy. I know, of offense to you, but it
was kind of creepy to me. It kind of reminded
(23:36):
me of like American Psycho said that, which is a
huge compliment Christian sexy, but yeah, I feel super sexy.
It all made sense. But they always were tapping in,
even in the pilot, into things that teens were actually
going through. And at the time that happened, that's right.
(23:59):
I was playing a kind of uh a l a
slight attorney who had a yend for young women, and um,
Brenda came onto my radar and but as I say,
Shannon was amazing. I mean the first thing we had
to do was make out. We literally we didn't leave,
like there's almost no first I know it always happens
(24:21):
in your first scene is like always the love scene,
of the makeout scene. Why did they do Why do
they do that to actors? But in this instance they
were rushing. They were rushing because they they had already
moved location once that day and they wanted to grab
this shot at the end of the day. I literally
did not have time to say hello to the girl.
You know where I had to go into like the
(24:42):
full tongue sandwich routine. It was like, hilarious, But Maxwell
Coffee just said, tongue sandwich. I think I'm exaggerated. Did
you stick in Shannon Doherty's mouth? No? But I tell
you what I do. Recall I was in the very
(25:02):
last shot at the pilot too, and it was again
it was a night shot, and I was sitting on
a wall with her set up the lights somewhere, and
she was like going, listen, Okay, I'm not I'm knocking
off this pilot. She goes, but if if those guys,
and she was referring to her agents who happened to
be my agents too, a couple of guys called Scott
(25:23):
Harris and Howard Goldberg who went on to be partners
in Innovative Or certainly Scott did dear Howard lesters, but
she goes, if they haven't got me another gig by
next month, I'm out of there. She goes, because I
guess she wasn't convinced that the pilot was going to sell,
as she was just so so keen to work and
actual there were quite a few doubts. I think he
(25:46):
thought the show would go over it. It kind of
helped launch the Fox network. If I recall, it's thirty
years ago now, right years ago? Yes, I don't know,
but can you be on every episode of our show?
This is amazing. He's detail oriented like me, right, Jen.
He remembers everything he does. What a memory? You must
(26:07):
take your gingobaba? Yes? Yeah. And the other thing I
remember now but I only just cross my mind was
a sequence we shot, you know, the Bibly glenn Center.
They're at the top of Beverly Glennier with a little
restaurants and a little parade of shops there. There used
to be a really nice Italian restaurant. I think it
(26:28):
became a jazz club later, but we were sitting in
a scene around it. Garlic knots there. Yeah, and they
I hope you didn't need those No good point, but
this was this was my only other I think I
had three scenes totally in the pilot, and this one,
the lighting guys had rigged a lamp directly over this
(26:52):
table um in the trellis work overhead, and there was
sort of this ominous creaking sound, and the way I
recall it, I suddenly sort of pushed Channon back and
this huge lamp crashed out onto the table. But we
saved Shannon Doory's life. Well, I'd like to take take
like claim to that she she may, she may beg
(27:14):
to differ, but I saw myself as Prince Charming in
this show, even though I was playing Allege. But the
thing is is that I went ballistic. I sort of
like he started yelling at all the grips and stuff, like,
you know, what is this amateur night production with this
half baked script. I was really furious because one of
us could have And at this point, suddenly this young
(27:38):
man steps up and he goes, well, actually I wrote
the script, and I went, oh, oh, Mr Star, No, no, no,
it was it's just a heat of the moment, you know,
explosion of temper um. But I didn't get asked to
come back, so that may explain it. Already subsequent there
and started. That is like an example of what not
(27:59):
to do to come back. I really indeed myself to
the crew going off on them too. Yeah, watch them
let you nice. Ever again, we I have a question. Sorry,
timelines aren't gonna be right. But wait, were you you
were on Dynasty and the Colby's at this time, like
you would, I've done my stint. I've done a brief
(28:21):
Dynasty segue to the Colby's, the spinoff as it were,
with that great all star cast that your dad put together,
legends of the industry, Charlton Heston and Barbara Stanwick and
Catherine Ross and recaught a montle Bond and some really
spectacular people. And he was so sweet. He was such
a loyal producer. As you know, you've heard this countless times.
(28:43):
Tori he um he I think he put me on
his new edition of the Love Boat. Um not not
a member of the crew or anything, uh smarter than that,
but he gave me a nice turn playing some hysterical
French chef, I think, um, And I just uh, I
just can't say enough about the man. Really, he was
(29:05):
very good to him to to to myself of course,
but also to my wife, Juliette Mills. He employed her
any number of times. I think she did so many
guest shots on the Love Boats, playing the foil for
these great comic actors that your dad used to like
to cast her opposite because she's such a funny girl itself.
(29:26):
That they ended a Yeah, they ended up giving your
sake in the last episode she was working in the
gift shop. She had become a member of the crew. Well,
you're my knowledge. My dad adored you, and he always
said he's a star and thank you, so thank you
for those kind words. That makes me, Oh my god,
(29:47):
that warms my dad a lot. The whole industry, sorry,
the whole industry does. I feel like the new generation
people don't know my dad and that makes me sad.
You used to or you used to have to do you.
He used to have that meeting place with that bench,
I remember, and there was you know, any number of
people who worked his associates were around him. But he
(30:08):
would sit on that bench, pupping on his pipe. And
basically he didn't ask you to act. He just assumed
you could act. He just wanted to make sure you're
a decent guy, you know, and then you walk out
of the room having nailed the gig. I remember a
very similar story with him, like he was so sweet
during my audition that when I left your audition. Oh sorry,
(30:30):
but I just want to tell you this funny moment.
When I left the building that his offices were in
after my audition, I was walking across the parking lot
and I heard someone like call out for me, and
I looked back and he was hanging out of the
window on the second story of this building, second or
third story of this building, hanging out of the window
(30:51):
and waving at me, and he was like, good job.
He was like he good thumbs up that this huge Jenny.
You have no idea how he hated heights so he
loved you from from jump. Well, I he made me
feel special from the gate. Yeah, I'm very proud of
(31:11):
what you all went onto to do. I mean, Gabrielle
obviously are are our leader at the screen. Ash as
guilt Um not really well she is. She's been in
a position now for she since two thousand and twelve,
I think, and um third term she's serving. I got
(31:33):
to do a movie with Jason about three years later,
a fun movie that should have done better called calendar girl,
I just had a turn in that sweet well. And obviously,
without wanting to to to to bring you girls tears,
we've I've already been trying talking about dear daddy. Um
(31:55):
you know Luke Luke who really genuinely did have a
Jane in quality, which is frankly, in my book, the
highest praise you can pay pay to any uh young actor.
Uh that the fact that he signed off with a
Quentin Tarantino movie once upon upon a time in Hollywood.
I just think it's just the neatest thing, you know. Uh,
And um, you know they say stars know how to
(32:16):
make exits and and and entrance this, you know. So uh,
you're all you're all doing great. And obviously we all
want Shannon to to push through and and and show
her resilience. As I say, she's a she's a feisty
broad she was back then. I'm sure she's never let now.
(32:38):
She's a fighter. She's a very strong woman. So I'm
lots of Shannon. If she's listening today, she'd love to
hear that you're you're amazing. Oh my gosh. I love
hearing you speak and hearing your stories. I would be
amiss if I didn't ask about Greece too, because this
is one my favorite. Wait, yeah, it's right. Tell us
(33:01):
what I don't want to hear about Michelle Phifer. I
want to talk about cool writer, oh my head, about
the kids, Okay, And no, I must say I would
honestly have to say now I've been I have been
blessed to make out with some very pretty women over
the years. Um. And but Michelle, Michelle, when she did
(33:24):
deliver in that department, really did I mean, I really
was seeing stars. She kept she kept me, she kept
me on lean raption throughout the shot the shoot, and
I don't mean in terms of an opportunity to get
ahold of her physically. I just mean in terms of
just our emotional connection. But when it came to to
(33:45):
the the crux in all the key scenes, the dyna scene,
um and obviously the scenes on the bike, and then
right at the end of the movie, uh frolling out
Tori's fan growing out right now, thanks freaking out right now,
keep talking? I mean, yeah, she said, she obviously absolutely
(34:05):
luminous a girl, uh woman, And one of the most
the most fun experience I ever had was making that movie.
Um and the second I would have to say, was
doing um in terms of film and TV, was doing um,
was doing the Colbys, the theories too, fantastic years, wearing
(34:26):
Italian suits, driving Ferrari's. You know, six ft tall girlfriends,
um and um. Although I'm married to a five ft
tall woman, so it's not necessarily my predilection. Is just
that sort Rod Stewart thing, you know, runway model type.
Jax we we canbouts agrees to in the night. We
(34:46):
have more questions about you and your wife. Sorry, um,
we did you have a crush on my Shelle Piper
during the movie? Like you know, actors, we all know
you kind of the lines blur, are you spending so
much time in an emotional connection? Think? Well, I tell you,
I tell you what we did? We both be both
were very cognizant of the fact that if the film clicked,
(35:07):
it could have really launched our careers in a major way,
right uh, And so there was a bit of a
focus on that for both of us. I don't mean
we were in our separate camps talking to our entourages
about our next move or anything, but um, my recollection
of it is is that Michelle actually seemed to get
(35:27):
on with She got on famously with everybody. Um, but
she had part of her mistique was that she did
have a reserve about it, which a lot of movie
stars do. They saved a part of themselves. So um.
To read between the lines, I would have to say,
I know that there was times when I would be like,
(35:49):
oh my god, she gets on better with the teamsters
than she does with the leading jelly. Yeah, I got
a little jelly. No we no listen. I had a
chorus line full of high school girls that that was
to keep me otherwise engaged. Say that again? So funny,
(36:11):
funny enough. My dad gave Michelle phife for her first job.
It was a serious or pilot didn't go, I don't
think called bad cats. Um, but he was like she's
And then he worked with you. So it's interesting that
you guys were both in greased just a little little yeah.
There you go. Listen, girls, you're doing a great job.
(36:31):
How many episodes this you gonna do? We don't know.
You're you're on our very first episode. How does that?
My hug in the air weights, I'll tell you what.
Um more? Can we ask them about your relationship with
your wife? How long have you guys been married. You're
not gonna believe this. We are going to be married
(36:54):
beginning of next month. It's gonna be our ruby wedding anniversary,
meaning what does that know? What what numbers? Ruby? Ruby
is four ug and you got forty years married to
the same Hollywood in Hollywood? Please what is the secret? Well,
(37:17):
two actors like, what is the secret? How do you know?
That's true? That's very tricky. There's usually some sacrifice involved,
and in so far as it's very tough for two
people to sustains the later please thank you? Okay, So
(37:38):
I would say, I would say, well, obviously you you
have to maintain great respect for one another. Uh, you
have to enjoy one another's company and be amused. Juliet
has been very good at getting me the lot, see
the funny you know, see the funny side of my
own personality, um and um. And then of course, the
(37:59):
other big trick is fidelity. It's the it's the number
one item of of keeping a marriage together, is you know.
And that's where actors are lucky because they get to
work out a lot of their emotions, negative and positive,
often on screen. As you know, they made you guys go,
you ladies go through the gamut during the course of
(38:21):
your years on the on the on the air, and
you just got to find a way to have a
release valve and just make sure that it's not with
your partner, you know what I mean. You don't You
can't and join this pandemic. It's very it's challenging because
we're all stuck together. Like, yeah, so you have to
(38:41):
be careful. I mean I have to. I suddenly found
myself suddenly just like losing the plot for no reason,
and it's just because of pent up fear. Really, you know,
are you ever gonna work again? Is? Uh? Is? Are
we all going to get through this? Are we gonna
survive this administration? You know, those kinds of things pressing
(39:02):
in on you before you realize it. You know, whatever
anger that has has been generated by fear, really is
there's only two real emotions at the end of the day,
love and fear. Right and um so practice you know,
make love not more. Okay, what a cliche. Well, I
have all the respect in the world for your wife.
(39:24):
I've watched her my whole life, and but but I
can but and you can tell her this. I'm crushing
on you, right now she's a lovely lady. Speak to
me more like, No, you're just you're so engaging. Sweet. Well,
I'm glad. Just your your your legal age. Now I
don't feel so bad. We've enjoyed talking to you so much. Maxwell.
(39:49):
Oh my gosh, thank you, great pleasure. Thank you. Still
you still both look fab absolutely fat. Thank you and
have fun with this. You're gonna get a lot a
lot of love back. I'm sure you've been receiving it
for years. But people want to feel feel positive feelings now,
not negative ones, and so you evoking the heyday of
(40:12):
their own news is is a wonderful thing. And stay
young and beautiful both of you, and hope to see
you see you before too long. Huh I do Oh wait,
he didn't ask me to marry him. I thought those
were his vows to me. Wow, I was at the
chapel with you. Okay, you're gonna have fun with this.
Thanks for having me on. Thanks. What a cool guy.
(40:39):
I'm speechless. You are. Yeah, he's like everything pretty much
rolled into the opposite of the character that he played.
Thank god. I was so worried he was going to
be creepy. Well, because he played that, we don't know
anything besides what he played. Wait you guys, how come
I do you hear a little bit of an act scent? Right,
(41:00):
but his wife is British but he's not. It's probably
rubbed off on him. You know how that works, like
when you it really has super sexy. Yeah, he's great.
He's very intelligent, charming, clever boy. He also is British
British Just kidding. Then wown's and he's a great actor
(41:20):
because I never knew that. No, he's also he was
so he was only in the pilot. He should have
been in more. I'm just going on record. No, he
had his little he had his diva moment and then
the crew didn't want him. I mean, but that'll get
you not invited back. But is that is that right? Though?
Like with with something like that really happened or do
(41:43):
or do the crew just deal with talent? So it's
so funny because remember Jen, before the show, I was like,
I feel like during that scene something happened with him
and Shannon and I wasn't sure what the thing was.
And now he told the story. So it was that
moment that he freaked out. Okay, so it's all coming
back together. I remember Shannon was like, something happened with
this actor? It was remember what it was? You thought
(42:08):
it was something much more scandalous, but I'm glad that
it was only did you want to take you on
a date? What happened? What happened? But no, no, no,
it was that he did that interesting good on him.
He's okay, Well, when we are next thing we produced,
we're gonna, uh, we're going to follow suit with my
dad that he loved, loved Maxwell call Field. We're gonna
put a minute. Okay, sounds good and we need to
(42:30):
take a break right now, so let's do that. Well,
we're back. You know. Another big moment from episode one
was the party Maryanne Moore's party. What a party? What
(42:54):
that was? Do you remember filming that night? That's the
night you say you remember most about. I can see
us standing there right now because it was the first
night that we you know, we literally had to stand
like in place. They cut to us like we're standing
off with Shannon, And now that we we re watched it,
there were two other girls, right, Yeah, we had friends
(43:17):
guy in the in the episode. Actually, you all drive
together in the car and then and then Tori is
not in the car when you come back, I left
the party. She has a different explanation. Donna just remember exactly,
but because it was an age thing and I could
only work a certain amount of hours, and the others
were I thought. I thought Brenda was in and Donna
(43:40):
was out, Like she got the front seat and everything.
It's crazy. Yeah, I think, yeah she did at the
front seat. I filmed as many hours because I was
a minor. You guys, whatever, Oh my goodness, So Brandon
Walsh and Marianne Moore kick it off played by Leslie Bayam,
Well it can we just roll back for one second.
(44:03):
I'm sorry, but that that that scene where I talked
about my nose job, and then you have the brochure
at the party. Did you notice that I had a brochure?
You remember that I did not have that. Oh my gosh,
you have the brochure the nose think gets brought up,
brought up to get at the party and then you're like, yeah,
so then like I got this and this. I totally
(44:25):
must have zoned out. I didn't see that part. Wow,
But as a sixteen or seventeen year old girl, I
had like major like mess me up in my head.
So for the rest of my life, I thought I
need a nose job, Like I didn't know what a
nose job was. Oh my gosh. And I was like
one of your first scenes. Yeah, yeah, clearly I was
(44:46):
taking notes because episode two I got a nose job
like the pilot is is the that's my real nose
in the pilot. Just it is beautiful, vintage. It's nage,
your vintage notes. It was a beautiful nose. I wouldn't
have done anything nowadays, like oh yeah, just Hollywood. And
(45:09):
Jenn said to me later because later Jen said to
me earlier when I brought this up, would you say, ah, well,
you can't go back now, Yeah, you can't go back.
And I feel better. So Marianne Moore, it gets teamy
with her, is Brandon Walsh so exciting because it is
(45:29):
the most legendary kissing scene. I think, like I think
boys and girls were losing their mind across the world,
losing their mind. It was so hot and heavy. The
whole show was hot and heavy, but just to come
out of the gate with the scene like that, she
was so so sexy. I remember just thinking she's a goddess,
(45:53):
like all her clothes. I love, the clothes she wore,
the earrings she wore, the way she talked. I was like,
I think I was in love and like a cool
girl in high school, like, oh MG, Like I am
happily married, but I want to be kissed by Marianne
Moore or Leslie Bega. I mean either or I'm just saying, well,
(46:13):
you can ask her yourself. Okay, Yes, this is so good.
This is so good. You're kidding. She's on the line,
Leslie goddess. We're so excited to have you here with
you are so beautiful. It's so see you, guys, Jenny,
I haven't seen you since the pilot. No, we are
really happy that you're with us, because I think all
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of America and the world wanted to really meet the
actress behind the beautiful body and face. Brandon had many
girlfriends and dates over the years of ten years, but
Marianne Moore is the one that everyone remembers. Members. Absolutely,
you were so memorable, and that character was so memorable.
(46:58):
I thought that rememberable memorable, well, but that character was
she never gets flustered, memorable, memorable. Thank you. So we
just rewatched the episode together the pilot and Jen was like, oh,
my gosh, her outfits were everything, and I was like, wow,
(47:20):
she was the coolest girl, like if like back in
high school, that was the girl you want to be
friends with. Did you love what you were wearing because
you look so comfortable in it? I did, you know?
I think, Um, for such a iconic pop culture kind
of show, one thing that I can say is they
(47:42):
really stayed um ahead with the times in terms of fashion,
because that really was the fashion of the time. We
were coming right out of the nineties, right, Yeah, baby
doll dresses and boots like you you pretty much created
that look. Yeah, those were my combats. Um. You know,
it's really interesting. I had the thing that really like
(48:05):
drew me to even auditioning for this. Not only was
because of Aaron and I hadn't met you guys, um,
but Tim Hunter was such a phenomenal director and really
I haven't his edge and my girlfriend I only got it,
of course, because she's just incredible in every way. And
(48:26):
I remember saying to Tim, I don't care what I do,
I want to work with you. And when I got
the auditions for this pilot and I saw who was
directing it, I was like, how can I not how
can I not? You know, we was happy to have
him because I knew that he was going to bring
something kind of edgy as well through in the way
(48:49):
he shoots, in the way his artistic and creative integrity works.
How could you bring something edgy to primetime television through
Aaron Spelling with teenagers involved? UM? And I remember coming in.
I was reading for Tony Shepard UM and Aaron was
there and Tim was there, and I was so nervous
and I looked at him and I was like, you know,
(49:09):
I gotta figure out a way. This seems like it's
just going to be such an incredible show. I've got
to figure out a way to to you know, navigate
and figure out how to how we can all work
together on this. And I remember auditioning and I remember leaving.
There's something that was so sentimental to me. And I
left and I was I was walking, I was walking
(49:31):
out and I started to cry, and I thought, this
is gonna be such an amazing I predicted that. I
knew it was going to be such an amazing show
some ways, somehow, just it was something iconic for that
era and it and it was a voice for that era. Yeah,
(49:52):
can you tell me my future, give me some lottery numbers.
And I remember working on working on the show, and
I remember some extra just coming up and talking and
talking about, uh you, Tori, And I said, you know,
this whole thing didn't happen because of Aaron, had happened
because of Tory. What do you mean, Well, Tony had
told me that you had found the script, you had
(50:15):
read the script and told your dad that you wanted
to do something with it. It was some kind of
story like that. And I was like, so this is
really toring. That's a true story. Well, I told him
it was good. I told him it totally mirrored what
was actually happened happening with teens. I mean I did
tell him that cast Chase appriseently Shane Doherty, But other
(50:35):
than that, I didn't get anything. Do you ever get
like stopped or people say, oh my god, I know
you from somewhere, what were you marrying? More people ever
freak out? I mean, they know you from so many things,
but from that specifically, right, I get it. And sometimes
I told them they saw me on a picture on
a park bench from Real Estate innch Wait, no, wait
(51:01):
that didn't come out right. Sorry, No, I had to
fly under the radar. I always have, even when I
was in college, I was a g D. I I
was always kind of like this incognitive person and I
navigate in and out of the entertainment industry. And I
was doing real estate at a very young age. Actually,
I used some of my entertainment earnings from nine or
(51:22):
two and oh and put towards the property I bought.
I've been buying properties with my entertainment money. So for me,
I was like, I don't see myself in this area
of the industry. For a very long time, I was
I was heading into something else so interesting. You, I
believe it. You're so much like Marianne Moore. I'm like
she was very under the radar and mysterious, and you're
(51:43):
super like you don't know what's going to happen with you. Next,
you were eating sushi at lunchtime, and at lunch time.
I want to know about the kiss. Yeah we okay,
So I want to know we're gonna go deep here. Well,
they already did that, but let's know about the kids.
We have to hear about the kiss. The kiss in
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the hot tub. H spilled the tea. You know again,
I think it's the way it was shot, and it
was so um there's something so ethereal about it because
that hot tub was in the middle of of like
the soliage and this yard. Do you know we shot
Do you know where that house was, right the mommy
(52:24):
dearest house in the hills? Did you know that that
was the mommy Oh my god? I ended up with
being part of that sale when it sold recently. Now
it's all it's on Middleton. It was on a million
dollar listening right right. But yeah, there was this hot
(52:45):
tub in the middle of of this stunning foliage. The
way they had built it into, like the trees and
the and the bush cologe um. The way Tim and
the cinematographer captured that made it so special, like very
beautiful special and um we can we I love hearing this.
(53:07):
Can we get to the kissing part? Though she doesn't
care about that. She wants to know the good stuff
well in profile and it was so close the way
it was shot. Jason is an awesome kisser there, it is.
This is true heart. He heard it here well you
know from the looks of it, he would probably say
(53:29):
the same thing about you back in the day because
that kiss that, like, how did you guys get into
that kiss? Because it's a very it's a major kiss,
like for TV back then, that was an open mouth,
lips sucking kiss. I don't know if I want my
teenager watching that, honestly, Like it made me a little uncomfortable.
(53:52):
You sucked Jason Priestley's bottom. We're just gonna put it
out there, and I was right there for it. I
speaking of the kiss, you to me how to kiss?
You did teach them how to kiss and your lips
specifically a topic of conversation just because of the beauty
(54:16):
of them. I cannot, Okay, So I have to ask,
can I hear first about you sucking on Jason Priestley's
bottom lip? It was like a slow, fine artistic It
was very artistic. But that was a choice. Clearly, Oh
(54:38):
you know, it takes it takes two, doesn't it. You
can't just you know, have one person kiss one person
and not about like that. Chemistry was there between you guys,
clearly and great kisser and he was gorgeous and he
still did I saw him, Um, I saw him, and
we hung out a couple of nights, we went to
(54:59):
dinner and hung out. When I was in New York
um when I was doing sopranos. I called him. I
was like, I'm in town, what are you doing? You
want to hang out? And you know, you guys have
never changed. It's like you guys never age you either,
I mean, look in the mirror. So during during the pilot,
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we all heard about the kiss, just just saying, we
all heard about this kiss. Uh for lack of a
better word. Lips were sealed, though, but we all speculated,
did they have a real life crush on each other?
Like there's so much chemistry and we've heard crush on him?
Didn't Jen? Did you have a crush on Jason? Did?
(55:42):
I did? I felt I appreciated everything about him, but
I never had a crush on it. Why you so fidgity,
fidgitty all of a sudden, We'll get to that. Brandon
and Kelly are way down the line. Brandon and Kelly
kissed so many times, and then Jason and Jenny on
b H nine two and O and there was it
was a different kiss. It was a different type type
(56:03):
of kiss with Brandon and Marianna. It just was And
I'm not kidding. I'm going to tell you right now,
Leslie Bega. I was sixteen years old, and I have
modeled my kissing efforts after you, and I know I'm
gonna be honest here. My whole life, I was always like,
here's how you get a boy. You slowly suck on
(56:24):
the bottom lip kissing tips right here, kissing tips with
Leslie Bega. Well, she was so mesmerized by your lips
that we um model, we want to have your lips?
Is that? Oh yeah? I feel weird saying that I
wanted your lips. So we were super nervous to like
bring this up with you, and we asked our friends
(56:45):
this here to bring it up. But I think we
could just go for it. We feel really comfortable. I
feel I feel comfortable with you. Now. It's good. We're good.
We were like when we were writing the b H
version of a couple of years ago, we were talking
about you and how much we both loved you and
how what an impression you made to us, and we
(57:08):
were like, what was the character's name? We can't remember,
and we knew it was an M name, right, I
know it was an M name, And we were racking
our brains and it was really really irritating and finally
almost like the lips Lips McGhee, she added a cuteness
to it. So now, like Lips McGhee, you to us,
you were lips Mage for a minute. It was like
(57:31):
we cherished it. We'll never forget those lips. And by
the way, you guys, I just saw her two years
ago in person. The lips are still just as beautiful
in person, and her face and her body, and she's
just as kind and funny and clever in person. We
were lucky to have you on our show. Oh, it's
so much fun. When you, guys reached out. I was
(57:53):
just so excited. It was really excited. Fun to catch up, right,
It's fun to go back this far. I do think
in those in that tenure run, it was a miss
not to bring Marianne Moore back at some point to
see what would happen. Like we know that later on
Chico and Brandon and Kelly were together that Emily Valentine
came back into the picture. That would have been great.
(58:19):
And if we were writing and producing it, we would
have brought you back then. Hell yeah, And it would
have been weird because there suddenly would have been like
a three way kissing scene with our characters and you
and it wouldn't have made sense, but it would have happened.
And uh, we were listening to our voice, going with
our gut. What's your Instagram? What's your it's at? Lusly
(58:42):
ray Vega? Okay, got that? Everybody lips McGee. You're officially
my spirit animal. We love Leslie Vega, Thank you, Leslie,
thank you much. Stay well well. I feel like we
covered everything on this first episode, ladies. That was so
(59:02):
like you guys, that right? And do you feel like
you were back in the moment? Like, it's pretty cool.
I like that. There's one thing that we haven't touched on, though,
what's that? Sissony fashion? Fashion? That huge part of the pilot.
How do we stop? How do we forget to talk
about that? I feel like the fashion was a little
(59:24):
bit different in the pilot than it was moving forward.
It was there were a lot of things that were different,
but that was one major thing. The character. You like
all your outfits Jen, no disrespect to the brilliant costume designer.
I didn't. I remember not being excited to wear that
(59:49):
jacket with the spandex polka dots and the blue type
that holds every I represent every color of the rainbow
with that one outfit right there. Everything outfit is iconic.
It is so epic. But you know what it's it's
it's leaving. It's like it's a little eighties and the
eighties were behind us this and you had like the
(01:00:13):
I love that they took a chance though, and they
were like, let's just it was like the kitchen sink.
Let's just put it all in there, put everything on them.
So so when we talk about the fashion, she always
brings up that outfit and I'm like, I think it's amazing.
I started me for years. I want to see you
and that outfit again. But I told her, I was like, wow,
we were talking about earlier and I was like those
(01:00:35):
polka dot shorts. Like honestly, I was like, you know
boys across the world that we're hitting paws and it
was a polar right at the time, and taking pictures
of your camel toe. I'm just saying there was no
pause back then. You couldn't pause it. Oh, I guess
if they recorded on VHS, you required on your VHS,
(01:00:58):
which we all did, which I did all the time
watching the same Spader movies. Um just saying they would
pause it. I'm sure they would zoom in and be like,
she is the hottest girl alive. And I don't even
know what to say right now. Now you're giving everyone
ideas that is a super tight outfit. I'm dead to you, man.
(01:01:20):
There's something about your the fashion and then also your bangs.
I mean, Kelly Taylor really had perfection bangs. I don't
know how they got them to be so like, oh, roleo, wingy,
dicky out. I don't know. They really project quite additions
from my actual head. I don't know what that is.
(01:01:41):
That's some impressive blow drawings right there, you guys. I
was there in person, and I'm telling you her hair
was like you wanted to lick it. It was edible.
It was so perfect in the perfect color blonde, natural
blonde by the way. And maybe because mine was died,
I envied that. I was like perfect tear. I like frizzy,
(01:02:01):
curly hair that I had to straightened. She had this
perfect bang. Um, it was everything like people talk about
Jennifer Aniston having the Rachel cut, like there was a
Taylor bang before Jennifer Aniston. There really was. Yeah. I've
told her for years she to bring the bang back.
She wants me to get bangs again. I'm like, babe,
my hair is different now I don't have enough hair
(01:02:22):
to have bangs anymore. Like things change, you could do
subtle ones like you did. Look that I have like
baby bangs right here, but I want I want fringe.
I'm just telling you right why because you, like you know,
have beautiful hair. I love you with bangs. Thank you?
Oh my goodness. Well, I think we've had quite the
(01:02:45):
quite the episode, ladies. It's time to assign her. It's
time to make our home homework assignment for yeah the
following week. And I'm really glad that we got to
talk to Leslie and Maxwell, And you know what I
want to just say? Can you say that without picking
your nose? I scratched, didn't pick up. You know what
I wanted to say. Thank you to everybody that's already
(01:03:06):
subscribed and like spreading the word. You guys are awesome.
We knew you would be there to support us, um
but yes, I know, and you would have as much
fun as we're having. Keep up, keep up the good work.
If you guys the reviews you like the reviews to
it because I happened to love them I'm a big yelper,
So when I see reviews for our podcast, it feel
(01:03:27):
it makes me feel the same, Like if you like something,
give it five stars because it helps the sisters out. Yes, yeah,
and it helps us to know what you guys want
to hear and everything. Like they I feel like everybody
was really irritated that I say, I don't remember what
you read that I read. Don't want just maybe a
(01:03:49):
couple of the reviews. They were annoyed. They were mad
about the fact that I don't remember things. And I'm
mad about the fact that I don't remember things. But yeah,
my memory loss is real, but I'm going to push
past it. I'm gonna dive in with you guys and
watch every episode and it's going to bring back all
these great memories. Go watch episode two. Everybody, watch the
(01:04:10):
episode two so we can talk about it. Yeah, and
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(01:04:32):
the episodes. Your memory is probably a lot better than
Jen's so has this questions and we are going to
answer them. Good idea, See you next week.
With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi everybody, welcome back.
This is our our first real episode of Now Too.
And o MG, we've been having some some problems, so Tory,
can you hear me? I can? I can hear you?
Can you see me here? Can you hear me? Now?
Unfortunately I can hear you very clearly. Yes, Okay, do
(00:26):
you want me to stop talking? No? Not yet. But
but it's the podcasting is for the young. This is
stressful getting the microphone to work because we're not tech savvy.
But you know what, Pat on the back, we are
doing a really good job because it's happening like Donkey Kong. Well,
(00:47):
I mean it's a little hectic. Everywhere I think is
just like kicking all of our asses. Right. Are my alone? No,
You're definitely not alone. Yeah. I feel like it's been
a lot and everybody's stressed out. I'm really stressed out
all the time, and it's a lot. So I kind
of felt weird about starting a podcast, you know, in
(01:08):
this moment. I don't know if you felt that. Yes
and no, because I feel like people are really excited.
They want to go back to happier times, They want
to be comforted. They want to laugh and smile, and
that's so. I guess it's kind of like, we'll just
(01:29):
consider our shows self care. Then instead of TV. You
watch show that I like that, let's go that. Give
yourself an hour and listen to our show. Speaking of
listening to our show, they probably like to talk about
about the show. That's right. Yeah, we're here. We're here
to give you all the fields. We're jumping right into
(01:50):
the Yeah, the pilot. Why do they call it a pilot?
I don't know. Maybe that's something we should have googled
before we did a podcast, but I have no idea. Well,
sleep the first episode, first episode, okay, first episode? Yeah,
the first episode was was long, longer than the regular episodes, right,
(02:11):
it was like ninety minutes? Is that correct? No? I
was watching and I was like, oh my god, this
is the longest episode of TV I've ever seen. Or
did they divide it when they aired it into two episodes? Uh?
They we talked about that last week. You're right, they
divided it. I think the rest of them are going
to be like long. Yeah, I tell you what, Yeah,
(02:34):
we're going to talk about the show now. Yeah, let's
do it, all right, right, I watched the show back
and are you gonna talk or am I gonna talk?
What do you think? We watched it together? Go go
over zoom right? Well, okay, so we did. This is
the first time we have ever watched the show together,
and we did. I'm not gonna lie. I it took
(02:56):
me back to us being teenagers and literally like we
giggled and had commentary overclothes and boys and I don't know,
and it made me miss you wore because we're not
in the same city right now. I know I really
loved watching it with you too, and because I had
somebody to talk about everything with and maybe that understood, right,
(03:17):
they don't know all my jokes or whatever. So you
watched it? How how much did you love it? Though?
I love the way the show opens. It's like super colorful,
like beautiful things everywhere. It's creates right out of the gate,
a world you want to go to, you want to visit, right, Like,
I don't know. I love the cinematography on the pilot.
(03:40):
I agree. Like I'm getting the chills just hearing you
say that, because it's true, even though you know I
I grew up in that world. So for me to
be able to sit back and watch it as just
a viewer and be like, yeah, I'm transfixed. I want
to be with these people. You grew up in that world.
I grew up on a farm basically, and so that
(04:03):
was the whole new world to me and and they
It's still like I still want to be a part
of it when I look at it. I mean it's
definitely embellished for the sake of TV, you think, but
we'll get but we'll get to that. Should we start
at the beginning? Okay, okay, let's do it like the
way Brandon Walls wakes up with perfectly jelled hair, like
(04:24):
the mullet off. Oh my god, you just destroyed the
illusion of like we all want to believe that Jason
Priestley actually you know what, you guys, I'm gonna go
with he probably did wake up with care. I would
believe it too, back in back in the day. Yeah,
he always looked good, not that he doesn't now, but
(04:45):
like he's a handsome, distinguished man, you know, but that
moment he just turned fifty, has two kids. But then
he was just like, wait, can I say that? You
know what he was as a teen girl, He was
a dream boat. Can you say that? Were you worried
that was a bad word? Boat? Like a six year
(05:10):
old girl? He was eight year olds, don't they did
in the fifties. So hello, I'm like going back to
a different era. I'm just bringing it all back. Okay, okay,
But he was dreaming, he was dreaming. Absolutely, Yeah. I
thought the whole beginning was just so compelling and like,
(05:32):
I just wanted to spend my time with them. Can
you imagine like people watching it all over the country,
all over the world, and like that that image and
that lifestyle that was all of a sudden exposed to
them they had never seen. I don't think the audience
had ever seen like Beverly Hills like that, or you
know how teens live in Beverly Hills. No way, I'm
(05:55):
gonna just spel the myth. It doesn't. It's not like
that they're glad we have Valet park. There is no
valet parking, no, no. But it was it was a
nice add a touch, like, so you went to this school,
you went to like Beverly Hills High in real life,
I goes again, you guys, here's my best friend, has
(06:15):
no idea where I went to school. No, I love
this about you. Guys. Wait, I knew you went to school.
At least I knew that I didn't go to school.
Did you know that I did know that. M I'm
street smart, not books at all. Did you really not
go to school? Well, I went to my sophomore year
and I didn't like it, so I stopped going. You
(06:41):
start working? You started working so young that you then No, No,
that part I didn't know. I well, I just moved
here from Arizona. I shouldn't go off on a tangent.
People don't care about this, that this is what they
care about. They do care about I care. I want
to hear this. I'm super fascinated. Starting talk quick. Then
we we just moved here when I decided to be
(07:03):
an actress, and I was going to re enroll in
high school because I left between my freshman and sophomore
year and um or maybe a sophomore junior. I think
it was sophomore junior. So I went to tour school
in l A. And and this is this. You know,
it's a big city and there's a lot going on.
I was so overwhelmed and like scared that I said, Mom,
I can't do it. I can't. I can't go in there,
(07:24):
and I knew no one. I was too freaked out
by it. And she was so cool about it. She
um like, she said, it's okay, we'll get you a
G E D and you don't have to go. So
that's what I did. Wow, well you started when you
were like sixteen. Anyways, so yes, shortly after we moved
(07:45):
to town. But anyway, that's enough about me. You just
lived the rest of your hearme, do you mean enough
about you? This is literally a podcast about the two
of you. I thought about Melly. The podcast is over guys,
but no, the show is about Kelly and Donnon. What
was it like seeing your guys names in the credits
for the first time, even just rewatching it last time?
(08:07):
Go you say first? Every time I see my name,
I get excited, like, okay, I did it. We do
you do that too? I don't like when no one's watching,
and I hope. I try to get room to cheer,
but it doesn't really catch on. They're here with my wine.
(08:29):
I don't know what to do. You grab that wine,
get it, get it, go leave? You can are the
children bringing you to This is real life? Mom? Goals.
Is that a certain name? Oh, it's a beer. I
(08:50):
think it's a beer. Whatever it does, drink it. Are
you signing the check? Yes? This is so good. Um
Tories in a hotel room right now because she's filming
stuff something. Thank you so much for bringing that up.
We're filming something too, Hello, thank you so much. So
(09:12):
back to the show. So the credits they brought sharnay.
You know I don't drink shar Now that's the issue.
I get it. I get it. It's disappointing, but I
think you can handle handle. Just a switch for today
for tonight. Fine, and it fixed to day's tested and approved. Alright,
(09:34):
let's talk about the show. Were you excited to? You
were excited to when you saw your name in the lights?
You know what they in the credits? Well? Yes, considering. Um, so,
I have a question I wonder, like now that we
see it, and we we watched it together over Hulu,
my name was there, and I was I forget the
order like, but we all had numbers on the call sheet.
(09:58):
Do you remember your number? Three? Yeah? I think I
was eight. So there's Jason. I think so I came
right after Brian. Brian came after Luke Okay, so yeah,
but technically when we filmed this, I don't think I
was a series regular. It probably would have been like
(10:21):
co starring. But by the time it's on Hulu now
like my name's up there and I was like, oh, so,
I'm not sure if originally when it aired, probably not.
I don't know. M that's something to ask a super fan.
So the only bummer about streaming it and stuff that
I hadn't witnessed just by watching the pilot it is
(10:42):
it is the music, like what you brought up, because
all the soundtrack is completely changed. I feel sorry for
anybody that's watching it with the with a new soundtrack.
It's a lot. It's like there's so much music all
the time, and so much of you guys, let us
just day we were cutting edge, like we had all
(11:02):
of the great like brand new music that was just
infused in their right, like everything that was popular and well,
you can go in there's these websites. Do you have
You have dedicated fans that have created these websites that
show you exactly what songs were in each episode of
each season. I know, it's crazy. So it's really nice
because if you really didn't want to know. You can
(11:23):
go back and look at that. Well, I think it's
that's a good thing to do because the music in
in the new cut is horrid, But if some people
like it, then I'm happy about that because originally the
whole story was I mean, the whole story was told
with the music like it. It really set the tone
for the show. So I think we can get past it.
Did music and wardrobe, Oh the wardrobe, we were just
(11:46):
plu dispillers. Yeah, they gonna put that stuff on anybody.
So you can get to go back. Can I go
back to just as a fan because keep in mind,
like Jen never watched the show, but I want the
show with my friends weekly every Wednesday night. My actual
high school friends and I got together in a group
(12:06):
and we watched it as just like fans, just for
the first season and then and then it went on.
But um so, just seeing like the twins, seeing Brandon
and Brenda, like, oh my gosh, I don't know. Just
seeing seeing Shannon as Brenda just gave me all the
fields like that. I was like, oh my god, look
at them, Like first of all, they're dressed out of place.
(12:28):
There they drive. Jen and I were just talking about
this brown car. Let's just call a brown car. It
was the brown car. Why why that? Why did that
upset you? Because I'm a detailed persons and the details. Um,
but just seeing them like he's dreamy, she's beautiful. Yet
(12:50):
you relate to them because you're like, oh, I just
want them to win, you know, I want them to succeed.
So they were so great in the rules, like because
both of them were were just like they could play
any part. I mean, Shannon was in Heather's playing the
popular girl, and now all of a sudden, she was
like the newbie. So I thought such a testament to
their acting was really top not, Like, yeah, I was.
(13:13):
I was surprised because, like you said, I've never watched it,
and I was in instantly, Like their acting drawed me,
drew me in, and I really really thought they did
a good job too. Do you think, um, Jason in
the early episodes had almost a hint of a New
York accent. I don't know, I couldn't really hear himut like, yeah,
(13:39):
well where they were from? Them they were from the Midwest.
Where are they from again? From? No? They no, No,
she doesn't know where. It's it's definitely place Minnesota said hello,
thank you. So there's a twin there, right, isn't there?
I don't know where there is. That what he was doing,
(14:00):
he was really getting owning. He was owning it, So
I gotta be honest. I was telling Jen this last night, um,
and she's like, are you doing research? I'm like no.
It popped up on my Instagram, but it was an
interview on Instagram with Jason right when the show had
taken off first season on The Joan Rivers Show. And you, guys,
this is why I'm bringing it up. He seemed to
(14:21):
have a New York accent. It was so bizarre. And
I also told Jenn she was like, give a one
word answer for all of the cash. She said all
the cast names except for me. Um, but I still
loved Joe loved her and uh. And he described Jenny
as a he said teddy bear and then he said adorable.
(14:42):
Oh she was like a teddy bear. I'm not a
teddy bear. I'm like, I know, we're like about prickly pear, prickly,
that's so you love it. Look at she loves harassing me. Okay,
I'm not prickly, guys. I do um, I'm a teddy
(15:09):
bearr you guys, come on, don't you see it? But
that means it was probably really early on in the season.
He didn't know you yet and he just like, she's
so cute and sweet and giggles and hugs. No, I
think I used to be so much more like giggly
and like more. You know, we we're young, of course
we will all were. You are the one that you
(15:30):
just stay effer besant always and don't ever seem to mature,
I mean grow up. So now you call me ever
vescent forever. I love that word. Oh my god. I
usually like being called cute and quirky. Now I want
to be called ef Oh does that mean bubbly? Yeah,
you're like champagne. Oh I love you. You're like vodka.
(15:55):
Oh my god, this is horrible. Well we're getting This
is what makes up our dynamic. I don't want to
be Yang. Obviously you're amazing, or I wouldn't be best
friends with you. What are you talking about? Can I
be ying sometimes? Okay, it's yin and you're always yan?
I'm Yang? Did you forget how this goes? I don't
(16:18):
want to be in Jenny Tory you're yan, I'm yang.
Can we go back to the poop round car? So? Um? Oh?
(16:39):
Can we go back first of all to first seeing
Cindy Walsh Carol Potter. What a beauty m hm stunner.
How old do you think she was though when she
did the pilot? Oh? Good question. Oh geez, someone fact checked.
I think like in her mid thirties, maybe early thirties. Oh,
(17:00):
I was gonna say she was like mid forties. No way,
I mean someone fact checking. We should fact check this
because I want to talk about her versus us presently,
because we're probably about the same age as she was
playing the mom. Then. M oh interesting. Although Johnny thinks
she was like thirty one, she is seventy two. No,
(17:21):
I can't do math. Two. We just filmed with her
last summer. She looks great, you guys, thirty two, I
love you all. Could not do that math the voice.
I didn't even try. No, I didn't even try either. Math.
I can't. I don't do math. I don't math about that.
(17:45):
So think about the forty year old woman thirty years
ago as opposed to the forty year old woman today.
It's different, It's just portrayed differently. Well yeah, I mean
so many things throughout the show or portrayed differently in
today's world like our show. This episode had so many moments,
(18:07):
cringing moments for me, like where I was uncomfortable with
what they were saying. Wait, I want to go back
to like I feel like women in their forties are
allowed to look hot and young and sexy, but women
their forties then had to be the mom and it
was very like conservative and like don't you agree, no,
you're why are you getting so deep? This is like
(18:29):
this was Cindy Walsh. She was supposed to look like
that from Minnesota. I'm fascinated that they were the same,
like we're older, we're older than the mom, the parents. Okay,
well can we move on. I don't really like this game.
Okay fine. So the car, go to the car, go
to the car, the car, the ship, brown car. So
(18:52):
Jen said, the reason the car, how do you describe it?
They were setting the stage was supposed to be like
a clunker right right, and show like you know they
didn't have money. They had you know, they didn't get
new cars like the kids in Beverly Hills. They had
something news that they didn't work for they didn't fit in.
And my point to her was, though, but it didn't
(19:13):
have to be poop brown, like that's just taking it
too far. And Mondale was the car, right, Yes, the
car had a name. Why did it even have a name?
For the guys they must have named it Mondale? They mustn't,
probably the guys or or like, who's these guys they
speak up? I don't know, just the guys that made
(19:35):
all the decisions about everything. I wonder why it was Mondale.
There must be a reason, or if like Jason and
the guys just like named it that one day so
they wrote it in that's it. But it was easy
to be pooped brown because I've never seen a car,
even a clunker that's poop brown. And then you had
someone like Iron ZERI and like Steve Sanders car Ferrari.
(19:56):
His license plate even was personalized. I ate a for
are so good? You? All the cars? T shirts? Do
you have? You know? I'd like one he has? Oh
oh he has them. He'll give you one he has
market I sleep in it. I sleep in my hute.
You know. I saw also that the Nana two and
(20:17):
oh bro has um his license plate is not is
does he have it now, really yeah, on a vintage
car or something. I think I saw that in his feedom.
But other cars were so flashy and gorgeous and like
everything that was so even the teachers had crappier cars
in the students. That was that. That's when we're talking
(20:40):
about about a cringing moment, like portraying teachers like they
can't they have to park in a separate parking lot
with the with the shitty cars and the sign like
staff and facul faculty staff and faculty parking. It was
all like basting and batterned and dirty and like when
you were saying a teacher flew out of a van
(21:00):
that was straight out of like Fast Times at Richmond High.
It was like a coolie van, but the teacher was
like running like he was late. Like that was weird, weird.
I don't understand that. But when you said cringe e,
I was thinking more of like the Brenda scene where
she meets the guy at the club and like it
take her back. How do you know my cringing moments?
That is another one. When I talked about the feelings
(21:25):
about that, I get worked up. Okay, I think it's
because I have teenage daughters. But seeing wait, you're going forward,
Well can't we can't we go for Well, I think
we can because I think we actually have Maxwell ready
if we want to talk to him. Wait a second, Hi, Hi,
(21:49):
it's so good to see you. Wow, it's been a minute. Thanks,
still still ticking. So do you remember, I mean, of
course you remember being on the show and playing that character.
I have two distinct memories, um um. I. First off,
(22:11):
Tori's dad obviously gifted me the role, as he did
practically my whole career, and uh with his with his passing,
it practically ended. But at the same I double edged
sword working for Aaron because you got sort of categorized
as a spelling style actor. But it didn't mean it
(22:32):
just meant that you you know, you had a lot
of gusto and obviously you had your at the time
in that a peak of your youth. You had your
yeah yeah, my ten logs going yeah, And so that's
why that compliment means a lot, thank you, um uh.
But there was also, I think as the situation that
(22:54):
your work would be shallow, you know what I mean,
as opposed to and the best way to always tackle
work from the errand spelling uh for farm production line
was to really go at it with total gusto and
uh so. Funnily enough, my first scene was with with Shannon,
(23:15):
and she was such a trooper. It was a location.
It was some townhouse on the edge of Beverly Hills
where I guess my character owned an apartment and had
taken her back there. She was practically jail bait. Kind
of creepy. I know, of offense to you, but it
was kind of creepy to me. It kind of reminded
(23:36):
me of like American Psycho said that, which is a
huge compliment Christian sexy, but yeah, I feel super sexy.
It all made sense. But they always were tapping in,
even in the pilot, into things that teens were actually
going through. And at the time that happened, that's right.
(23:59):
I was playing a kind of uh a l a
slight attorney who had a yend for young women, and um,
Brenda came onto my radar and but as I say,
Shannon was amazing. I mean the first thing we had
to do was make out. We literally we didn't leave,
like there's almost no first I know it always happens
(24:21):
in your first scene is like always the love scene,
of the makeout scene. Why did they do Why do
they do that to actors? But in this instance they
were rushing. They were rushing because they they had already
moved location once that day and they wanted to grab
this shot at the end of the day. I literally
did not have time to say hello to the girl.
You know where I had to go into like the
(24:42):
full tongue sandwich routine. It was like, hilarious, But Maxwell
Coffee just said, tongue sandwich. I think I'm exaggerated. Did
you stick in Shannon Doherty's mouth? No? But I tell
you what I do. Recall I was in the very
(25:02):
last shot at the pilot too, and it was again
it was a night shot, and I was sitting on
a wall with her set up the lights somewhere, and
she was like going, listen, Okay, I'm not I'm knocking
off this pilot. She goes, but if if those guys,
and she was referring to her agents who happened to
be my agents too, a couple of guys called Scott
(25:23):
Harris and Howard Goldberg who went on to be partners
in Innovative Or certainly Scott did dear Howard lesters, but
she goes, if they haven't got me another gig by
next month, I'm out of there. She goes, because I
guess she wasn't convinced that the pilot was going to sell,
as she was just so so keen to work and
actual there were quite a few doubts. I think he
(25:46):
thought the show would go over it. It kind of
helped launch the Fox network. If I recall, it's thirty
years ago now, right years ago? Yes, I don't know,
but can you be on every episode of our show?
This is amazing. He's detail oriented like me, right, Jen.
He remembers everything he does. What a memory? You must
(26:07):
take your gingobaba? Yes? Yeah. And the other thing I
remember now but I only just cross my mind was
a sequence we shot, you know, the Bibly glenn Center.
They're at the top of Beverly Glennier with a little
restaurants and a little parade of shops there. There used
to be a really nice Italian restaurant. I think it
(26:28):
became a jazz club later, but we were sitting in
a scene around it. Garlic knots there. Yeah, and they
I hope you didn't need those No good point, but
this was this was my only other I think I
had three scenes totally in the pilot, and this one,
the lighting guys had rigged a lamp directly over this
(26:52):
table um in the trellis work overhead, and there was
sort of this ominous creaking sound, and the way I
recall it, I suddenly sort of pushed Channon back and
this huge lamp crashed out onto the table. But we
saved Shannon Doory's life. Well, I'd like to take take
like claim to that she she may, she may beg
(27:14):
to differ, but I saw myself as Prince Charming in
this show, even though I was playing Allege. But the
thing is is that I went ballistic. I sort of
like he started yelling at all the grips and stuff, like,
you know, what is this amateur night production with this
half baked script. I was really furious because one of
us could have And at this point, suddenly this young
(27:38):
man steps up and he goes, well, actually I wrote
the script, and I went, oh, oh, Mr Star, No, no, no,
it was it's just a heat of the moment, you know,
explosion of temper um. But I didn't get asked to
come back, so that may explain it. Already subsequent there
and started. That is like an example of what not
(27:59):
to do to come back. I really indeed myself to
the crew going off on them too. Yeah, watch them
let you nice. Ever again, we I have a question. Sorry,
timelines aren't gonna be right. But wait, were you you
were on Dynasty and the Colby's at this time, like
you would, I've done my stint. I've done a brief
(28:21):
Dynasty segue to the Colby's, the spinoff as it were,
with that great all star cast that your dad put together,
legends of the industry, Charlton Heston and Barbara Stanwick and
Catherine Ross and recaught a montle Bond and some really
spectacular people. And he was so sweet. He was such
a loyal producer. As you know, you've heard this countless times.
(28:43):
Tori he um he I think he put me on
his new edition of the Love Boat. Um not not
a member of the crew or anything, uh smarter than that,
but he gave me a nice turn playing some hysterical
French chef, I think, um, And I just uh, I
just can't say enough about the man. Really, he was
(29:05):
very good to him to to to myself of course,
but also to my wife, Juliette Mills. He employed her
any number of times. I think she did so many
guest shots on the Love Boats, playing the foil for
these great comic actors that your dad used to like
to cast her opposite because she's such a funny girl itself.
(29:26):
That they ended a Yeah, they ended up giving your
sake in the last episode she was working in the
gift shop. She had become a member of the crew. Well,
you're my knowledge. My dad adored you, and he always
said he's a star and thank you, so thank you
for those kind words. That makes me, Oh my god,
(29:47):
that warms my dad a lot. The whole industry, sorry,
the whole industry does. I feel like the new generation
people don't know my dad and that makes me sad.
You used to or you used to have to do you.
He used to have that meeting place with that bench,
I remember, and there was you know, any number of
people who worked his associates were around him. But he
(30:08):
would sit on that bench, pupping on his pipe. And
basically he didn't ask you to act. He just assumed
you could act. He just wanted to make sure you're
a decent guy, you know, and then you walk out
of the room having nailed the gig. I remember a
very similar story with him, like he was so sweet
during my audition that when I left your audition. Oh sorry,
(30:30):
but I just want to tell you this funny moment.
When I left the building that his offices were in
after my audition, I was walking across the parking lot
and I heard someone like call out for me, and
I looked back and he was hanging out of the
window on the second story of this building, second or
third story of this building, hanging out of the window
(30:51):
and waving at me, and he was like, good job.
He was like he good thumbs up that this huge Jenny.
You have no idea how he hated heights so he
loved you from from jump. Well, I he made me
feel special from the gate. Yeah, I'm very proud of
(31:11):
what you all went onto to do. I mean, Gabrielle
obviously are are our leader at the screen. Ash as
guilt Um not really well she is. She's been in
a position now for she since two thousand and twelve,
I think, and um third term she's serving. I got
(31:33):
to do a movie with Jason about three years later,
a fun movie that should have done better called calendar girl,
I just had a turn in that sweet well. And obviously,
without wanting to to to to bring you girls tears,
we've I've already been trying talking about dear daddy. Um
(31:55):
you know Luke Luke who really genuinely did have a
Jane in quality, which is frankly, in my book, the
highest praise you can pay pay to any uh young actor.
Uh that the fact that he signed off with a
Quentin Tarantino movie once upon upon a time in Hollywood.
I just think it's just the neatest thing, you know. Uh,
And um, you know they say stars know how to
(32:16):
make exits and and and entrance this, you know. So uh,
you're all you're all doing great. And obviously we all
want Shannon to to push through and and and show
her resilience. As I say, she's a she's a feisty
broad she was back then. I'm sure she's never let now.
(32:38):
She's a fighter. She's a very strong woman. So I'm
lots of Shannon. If she's listening today, she'd love to
hear that you're you're amazing. Oh my gosh. I love
hearing you speak and hearing your stories. I would be
amiss if I didn't ask about Greece too, because this
is one my favorite. Wait, yeah, it's right. Tell us
(33:01):
what I don't want to hear about Michelle Phifer. I
want to talk about cool writer, oh my head, about
the kids, Okay, And no, I must say I would
honestly have to say now I've been I have been
blessed to make out with some very pretty women over
the years. Um. And but Michelle, Michelle, when she did
(33:24):
deliver in that department, really did I mean, I really
was seeing stars. She kept she kept me, she kept
me on lean raption throughout the shot the shoot, and
I don't mean in terms of an opportunity to get
ahold of her physically. I just mean in terms of
just our emotional connection. But when it came to to
(33:45):
the the crux in all the key scenes, the dyna scene,
um and obviously the scenes on the bike, and then
right at the end of the movie, uh frolling out
Tori's fan growing out right now, thanks freaking out right now,
keep talking? I mean, yeah, she said, she obviously absolutely
(34:05):
luminous a girl, uh woman, And one of the most
the most fun experience I ever had was making that movie.
Um and the second I would have to say, was
doing um in terms of film and TV, was doing um,
was doing the Colbys, the theories too, fantastic years, wearing
(34:26):
Italian suits, driving Ferrari's. You know, six ft tall girlfriends,
um and um. Although I'm married to a five ft
tall woman, so it's not necessarily my predilection. Is just
that sort Rod Stewart thing, you know, runway model type.
Jax we we canbouts agrees to in the night. We
(34:46):
have more questions about you and your wife. Sorry, um,
we did you have a crush on my Shelle Piper
during the movie? Like you know, actors, we all know
you kind of the lines blur, are you spending so
much time in an emotional connection? Think? Well, I tell you,
I tell you what we did? We both be both
were very cognizant of the fact that if the film clicked,
(35:07):
it could have really launched our careers in a major way,
right uh, And so there was a bit of a
focus on that for both of us. I don't mean
we were in our separate camps talking to our entourages
about our next move or anything, but um, my recollection
of it is is that Michelle actually seemed to get
(35:27):
on with She got on famously with everybody. Um, but
she had part of her mistique was that she did
have a reserve about it, which a lot of movie
stars do. They saved a part of themselves. So um.
To read between the lines, I would have to say,
I know that there was times when I would be like,
(35:49):
oh my god, she gets on better with the teamsters
than she does with the leading jelly. Yeah, I got
a little jelly. No we no listen. I had a
chorus line full of high school girls that that was
to keep me otherwise engaged. Say that again? So funny,
(36:11):
funny enough. My dad gave Michelle phife for her first job.
It was a serious or pilot didn't go, I don't
think called bad cats. Um, but he was like she's
And then he worked with you. So it's interesting that
you guys were both in greased just a little little yeah.
There you go. Listen, girls, you're doing a great job.
(36:31):
How many episodes this you gonna do? We don't know.
You're you're on our very first episode. How does that?
My hug in the air weights, I'll tell you what.
Um more? Can we ask them about your relationship with
your wife? How long have you guys been married. You're
not gonna believe this. We are going to be married
(36:54):
beginning of next month. It's gonna be our ruby wedding anniversary,
meaning what does that know? What what numbers? Ruby? Ruby
is four ug and you got forty years married to
the same Hollywood in Hollywood? Please what is the secret? Well,
(37:17):
two actors like, what is the secret? How do you know?
That's true? That's very tricky. There's usually some sacrifice involved,
and in so far as it's very tough for two
people to sustains the later please thank you? Okay, So
(37:38):
I would say, I would say, well, obviously you you
have to maintain great respect for one another. Uh, you
have to enjoy one another's company and be amused. Juliet
has been very good at getting me the lot, see
the funny you know, see the funny side of my
own personality, um and um. And then of course, the
(37:59):
other big trick is fidelity. It's the it's the number
one item of of keeping a marriage together, is you know.
And that's where actors are lucky because they get to
work out a lot of their emotions, negative and positive,
often on screen. As you know, they made you guys go,
you ladies go through the gamut during the course of
(38:21):
your years on the on the on the air, and
you just got to find a way to have a
release valve and just make sure that it's not with
your partner, you know what I mean. You don't You
can't and join this pandemic. It's very it's challenging because
we're all stuck together. Like, yeah, so you have to
(38:41):
be careful. I mean I have to. I suddenly found
myself suddenly just like losing the plot for no reason,
and it's just because of pent up fear. Really, you know,
are you ever gonna work again? Is? Uh? Is? Are
we all going to get through this? Are we gonna
survive this administration? You know, those kinds of things pressing
(39:02):
in on you before you realize it. You know, whatever
anger that has has been generated by fear, really is
there's only two real emotions at the end of the day,
love and fear. Right and um so practice you know,
make love not more. Okay, what a cliche. Well, I
have all the respect in the world for your wife.
(39:24):
I've watched her my whole life, and but but I
can but and you can tell her this. I'm crushing
on you, right now she's a lovely lady. Speak to
me more like, No, you're just you're so engaging. Sweet. Well,
I'm glad. Just your your your legal age. Now I
don't feel so bad. We've enjoyed talking to you so much. Maxwell.
(39:49):
Oh my gosh, thank you, great pleasure. Thank you. Still
you still both look fab absolutely fat. Thank you and
have fun with this. You're gonna get a lot a
lot of love back. I'm sure you've been receiving it
for years. But people want to feel feel positive feelings now,
not negative ones, and so you evoking the heyday of
(40:12):
their own news is is a wonderful thing. And stay
young and beautiful both of you, and hope to see
you see you before too long. Huh I do Oh wait,
he didn't ask me to marry him. I thought those
were his vows to me. Wow, I was at the
chapel with you. Okay, you're gonna have fun with this.
Thanks for having me on. Thanks. What a cool guy.
(40:39):
I'm speechless. You are. Yeah, he's like everything pretty much
rolled into the opposite of the character that he played.
Thank god. I was so worried he was going to
be creepy. Well, because he played that, we don't know
anything besides what he played. Wait you guys, how come
I do you hear a little bit of an act scent? Right,
(41:00):
but his wife is British but he's not. It's probably
rubbed off on him. You know how that works, like
when you it really has super sexy. Yeah, he's great.
He's very intelligent, charming, clever boy. He also is British
British Just kidding. Then wown's and he's a great actor
(41:20):
because I never knew that. No, he's also he was
so he was only in the pilot. He should have
been in more. I'm just going on record. No, he
had his little he had his diva moment and then
the crew didn't want him. I mean, but that'll get
you not invited back. But is that is that right? Though?
Like with with something like that really happened or do
(41:43):
or do the crew just deal with talent? So it's
so funny because remember Jen, before the show, I was like,
I feel like during that scene something happened with him
and Shannon and I wasn't sure what the thing was.
And now he told the story. So it was that
moment that he freaked out. Okay, so it's all coming
back together. I remember Shannon was like, something happened with
this actor? It was remember what it was? You thought
(42:08):
it was something much more scandalous, but I'm glad that
it was only did you want to take you on
a date? What happened? What happened? But no, no, no,
it was that he did that interesting good on him.
He's okay, Well, when we are next thing we produced,
we're gonna, uh, we're going to follow suit with my
dad that he loved, loved Maxwell call Field. We're gonna
put a minute. Okay, sounds good and we need to
(42:30):
take a break right now, so let's do that. Well,
we're back. You know. Another big moment from episode one
was the party Maryanne Moore's party. What a party? What
(42:54):
that was? Do you remember filming that night? That's the
night you say you remember most about. I can see
us standing there right now because it was the first
night that we you know, we literally had to stand
like in place. They cut to us like we're standing
off with Shannon, And now that we we re watched it,
there were two other girls, right, Yeah, we had friends
(43:17):
guy in the in the episode. Actually, you all drive
together in the car and then and then Tori is
not in the car when you come back, I left
the party. She has a different explanation. Donna just remember exactly,
but because it was an age thing and I could
only work a certain amount of hours, and the others
were I thought. I thought Brenda was in and Donna
(43:40):
was out, Like she got the front seat and everything.
It's crazy. Yeah, I think, yeah she did at the
front seat. I filmed as many hours because I was
a minor. You guys, whatever, Oh my goodness, So Brandon
Walsh and Marianne Moore kick it off played by Leslie Bayam,
Well it can we just roll back for one second.
(44:03):
I'm sorry, but that that that scene where I talked
about my nose job, and then you have the brochure
at the party. Did you notice that I had a brochure?
You remember that I did not have that. Oh my gosh,
you have the brochure the nose think gets brought up,
brought up to get at the party and then you're like, yeah,
so then like I got this and this. I totally
(44:25):
must have zoned out. I didn't see that part. Wow,
But as a sixteen or seventeen year old girl, I
had like major like mess me up in my head.
So for the rest of my life, I thought I
need a nose job, Like I didn't know what a
nose job was. Oh my gosh. And I was like
one of your first scenes. Yeah, yeah, clearly I was
(44:46):
taking notes because episode two I got a nose job
like the pilot is is the that's my real nose
in the pilot. Just it is beautiful, vintage. It's nage,
your vintage notes. It was a beautiful nose. I wouldn't
have done anything nowadays, like oh yeah, just Hollywood. And
(45:09):
Jenn said to me later because later Jen said to
me earlier when I brought this up, would you say, ah, well,
you can't go back now, Yeah, you can't go back.
And I feel better. So Marianne Moore, it gets teamy
with her, is Brandon Walsh so exciting because it is
(45:29):
the most legendary kissing scene. I think, like I think
boys and girls were losing their mind across the world,
losing their mind. It was so hot and heavy. The
whole show was hot and heavy, but just to come
out of the gate with the scene like that, she
was so so sexy. I remember just thinking she's a goddess,
(45:53):
like all her clothes. I love, the clothes she wore,
the earrings she wore, the way she talked. I was like,
I think I was in love and like a cool
girl in high school, like, oh MG, Like I am
happily married, but I want to be kissed by Marianne
Moore or Leslie Bega. I mean either or I'm just saying, well,
(46:13):
you can ask her yourself. Okay, Yes, this is so good.
This is so good. You're kidding. She's on the line,
Leslie goddess. We're so excited to have you here with
you are so beautiful. It's so see you, guys, Jenny,
I haven't seen you since the pilot. No, we are
really happy that you're with us, because I think all
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of America and the world wanted to really meet the
actress behind the beautiful body and face. Brandon had many
girlfriends and dates over the years of ten years, but
Marianne Moore is the one that everyone remembers. Members. Absolutely,
you were so memorable, and that character was so memorable.
(46:58):
I thought that rememberable memorable, well, but that character was
she never gets flustered, memorable, memorable. Thank you. So we
just rewatched the episode together the pilot and Jen was like, oh,
my gosh, her outfits were everything, and I was like, wow,
(47:20):
she was the coolest girl, like if like back in
high school, that was the girl you want to be
friends with. Did you love what you were wearing because
you look so comfortable in it? I did, you know?
I think, Um, for such a iconic pop culture kind
of show, one thing that I can say is they
(47:42):
really stayed um ahead with the times in terms of fashion,
because that really was the fashion of the time. We
were coming right out of the nineties, right, Yeah, baby
doll dresses and boots like you you pretty much created
that look. Yeah, those were my combats. Um. You know,
it's really interesting. I had the thing that really like
(48:05):
drew me to even auditioning for this. Not only was
because of Aaron and I hadn't met you guys, um,
but Tim Hunter was such a phenomenal director and really
I haven't his edge and my girlfriend I only got it,
of course, because she's just incredible in every way. And
(48:26):
I remember saying to Tim, I don't care what I do,
I want to work with you. And when I got
the auditions for this pilot and I saw who was
directing it, I was like, how can I not how
can I not? You know, we was happy to have
him because I knew that he was going to bring
something kind of edgy as well through in the way
(48:49):
he shoots, in the way his artistic and creative integrity works.
How could you bring something edgy to primetime television through
Aaron Spelling with teenagers involved? UM? And I remember coming in.
I was reading for Tony Shepard UM and Aaron was
there and Tim was there, and I was so nervous
and I looked at him and I was like, you know,
(49:09):
I gotta figure out a way. This seems like it's
just going to be such an incredible show. I've got
to figure out a way to to you know, navigate
and figure out how to how we can all work
together on this. And I remember auditioning and I remember leaving.
There's something that was so sentimental to me. And I
left and I was I was walking, I was walking
(49:31):
out and I started to cry, and I thought, this
is gonna be such an amazing I predicted that. I
knew it was going to be such an amazing show
some ways, somehow, just it was something iconic for that
era and it and it was a voice for that era. Yeah,
(49:52):
can you tell me my future, give me some lottery numbers.
And I remember working on working on the show, and
I remember some extra just coming up and talking and
talking about, uh you, Tori, And I said, you know,
this whole thing didn't happen because of Aaron, had happened
because of Tory. What do you mean, Well, Tony had
told me that you had found the script, you had
(50:15):
read the script and told your dad that you wanted
to do something with it. It was some kind of
story like that. And I was like, so this is
really toring. That's a true story. Well, I told him
it was good. I told him it totally mirrored what
was actually happened happening with teens. I mean I did
tell him that cast Chase appriseently Shane Doherty, But other
(50:35):
than that, I didn't get anything. Do you ever get
like stopped or people say, oh my god, I know
you from somewhere, what were you marrying? More people ever
freak out? I mean, they know you from so many things,
but from that specifically, right, I get it. And sometimes
I told them they saw me on a picture on
a park bench from Real Estate innch Wait, no, wait
(51:01):
that didn't come out right. Sorry, No, I had to
fly under the radar. I always have, even when I
was in college, I was a g D. I I
was always kind of like this incognitive person and I
navigate in and out of the entertainment industry. And I
was doing real estate at a very young age. Actually,
I used some of my entertainment earnings from nine or
(51:22):
two and oh and put towards the property I bought.
I've been buying properties with my entertainment money. So for me,
I was like, I don't see myself in this area
of the industry. For a very long time, I was
I was heading into something else so interesting. You, I
believe it. You're so much like Marianne Moore. I'm like
she was very under the radar and mysterious, and you're
(51:43):
super like you don't know what's going to happen with you. Next,
you were eating sushi at lunchtime, and at lunch time.
I want to know about the kiss. Yeah we okay,
So I want to know we're gonna go deep here. Well,
they already did that, but let's know about the kids.
We have to hear about the kiss. The kiss in
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the hot tub. H spilled the tea. You know again,
I think it's the way it was shot, and it
was so um there's something so ethereal about it because
that hot tub was in the middle of of like
the soliage and this yard. Do you know we shot
Do you know where that house was, right the mommy
(52:24):
dearest house in the hills? Did you know that that
was the mommy Oh my god? I ended up with
being part of that sale when it sold recently. Now
it's all it's on Middleton. It was on a million
dollar listening right right. But yeah, there was this hot
(52:45):
tub in the middle of of this stunning foliage. The
way they had built it into, like the trees and
the and the bush cologe um. The way Tim and
the cinematographer captured that made it so special, like very
beautiful special and um we can we I love hearing this.
(53:07):
Can we get to the kissing part? Though she doesn't
care about that. She wants to know the good stuff
well in profile and it was so close the way
it was shot. Jason is an awesome kisser there, it is.
This is true heart. He heard it here well you
know from the looks of it, he would probably say
(53:29):
the same thing about you back in the day because
that kiss that, like, how did you guys get into
that kiss? Because it's a very it's a major kiss,
like for TV back then, that was an open mouth,
lips sucking kiss. I don't know if I want my
teenager watching that, honestly, Like it made me a little uncomfortable.
(53:52):
You sucked Jason Priestley's bottom. We're just gonna put it
out there, and I was right there for it. I
speaking of the kiss, you to me how to kiss?
You did teach them how to kiss and your lips
specifically a topic of conversation just because of the beauty
(54:16):
of them. I cannot, Okay, So I have to ask,
can I hear first about you sucking on Jason Priestley's
bottom lip? It was like a slow, fine artistic It
was very artistic. But that was a choice. Clearly, Oh
(54:38):
you know, it takes it takes two, doesn't it. You
can't just you know, have one person kiss one person
and not about like that. Chemistry was there between you guys,
clearly and great kisser and he was gorgeous and he
still did I saw him, Um, I saw him, and
we hung out a couple of nights, we went to
(54:59):
dinner and hung out. When I was in New York
um when I was doing sopranos. I called him. I
was like, I'm in town, what are you doing? You
want to hang out? And you know, you guys have
never changed. It's like you guys never age you either,
I mean, look in the mirror. So during during the pilot,
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we all heard about the kiss, just just saying, we
all heard about this kiss. Uh for lack of a
better word. Lips were sealed, though, but we all speculated,
did they have a real life crush on each other?
Like there's so much chemistry and we've heard crush on him?
Didn't Jen? Did you have a crush on Jason? Did?
(55:42):
I did? I felt I appreciated everything about him, but
I never had a crush on it. Why you so fidgity,
fidgitty all of a sudden, We'll get to that. Brandon
and Kelly are way down the line. Brandon and Kelly
kissed so many times, and then Jason and Jenny on
b H nine two and O and there was it
was a different kiss. It was a different type type
(56:03):
of kiss with Brandon and Marianna. It just was And
I'm not kidding. I'm going to tell you right now,
Leslie Bega. I was sixteen years old, and I have
modeled my kissing efforts after you, and I know I'm
gonna be honest here. My whole life, I was always like,
here's how you get a boy. You slowly suck on
(56:24):
the bottom lip kissing tips right here, kissing tips with
Leslie Bega. Well, she was so mesmerized by your lips
that we um model, we want to have your lips?
Is that? Oh yeah? I feel weird saying that I
wanted your lips. So we were super nervous to like
bring this up with you, and we asked our friends
(56:45):
this here to bring it up. But I think we
could just go for it. We feel really comfortable. I
feel I feel comfortable with you. Now. It's good. We're good.
We were like when we were writing the b H
version of a couple of years ago, we were talking
about you and how much we both loved you and
how what an impression you made to us, and we
(57:08):
were like, what was the character's name? We can't remember,
and we knew it was an M name, right, I
know it was an M name, And we were racking
our brains and it was really really irritating and finally
almost like the lips Lips McGhee, she added a cuteness
to it. So now, like Lips McGhee, you to us,
you were lips Mage for a minute. It was like
(57:31):
we cherished it. We'll never forget those lips. And by
the way, you guys, I just saw her two years
ago in person. The lips are still just as beautiful
in person, and her face and her body, and she's
just as kind and funny and clever in person. We
were lucky to have you on our show. Oh, it's
so much fun. When you, guys reached out. I was
(57:53):
just so excited. It was really excited. Fun to catch up, right,
It's fun to go back this far. I do think
in those in that tenure run, it was a miss
not to bring Marianne Moore back at some point to
see what would happen. Like we know that later on
Chico and Brandon and Kelly were together that Emily Valentine
came back into the picture. That would have been great.
(58:19):
And if we were writing and producing it, we would
have brought you back then. Hell yeah, And it would
have been weird because there suddenly would have been like
a three way kissing scene with our characters and you
and it wouldn't have made sense, but it would have happened.
And uh, we were listening to our voice, going with
our gut. What's your Instagram? What's your it's at? Lusly
(58:42):
ray Vega? Okay, got that? Everybody lips McGee. You're officially
my spirit animal. We love Leslie Vega, Thank you, Leslie,
thank you much. Stay well well. I feel like we
covered everything on this first episode, ladies. That was so
(59:02):
like you guys, that right? And do you feel like
you were back in the moment? Like, it's pretty cool.
I like that. There's one thing that we haven't touched on, though,
what's that? Sissony fashion? Fashion? That huge part of the pilot.
How do we stop? How do we forget to talk
about that? I feel like the fashion was a little
(59:24):
bit different in the pilot than it was moving forward.
It was there were a lot of things that were different,
but that was one major thing. The character. You like
all your outfits Jen, no disrespect to the brilliant costume designer.
I didn't. I remember not being excited to wear that
(59:49):
jacket with the spandex polka dots and the blue type
that holds every I represent every color of the rainbow
with that one outfit right there. Everything outfit is iconic.
It is so epic. But you know what it's it's
it's leaving. It's like it's a little eighties and the
eighties were behind us this and you had like the
(01:00:13):
I love that they took a chance though, and they
were like, let's just it was like the kitchen sink.
Let's just put it all in there, put everything on them.
So so when we talk about the fashion, she always
brings up that outfit and I'm like, I think it's amazing.
I started me for years. I want to see you
and that outfit again. But I told her, I was like, wow,
we were talking about earlier and I was like those
(01:00:35):
polka dot shorts. Like honestly, I was like, you know
boys across the world that we're hitting paws and it
was a polar right at the time, and taking pictures
of your camel toe. I'm just saying there was no
pause back then. You couldn't pause it. Oh, I guess
if they recorded on VHS, you required on your VHS,
(01:00:58):
which we all did, which I did all the time
watching the same Spader movies. Um just saying they would
pause it. I'm sure they would zoom in and be like,
she is the hottest girl alive. And I don't even
know what to say right now. Now you're giving everyone
ideas that is a super tight outfit. I'm dead to you, man.
(01:01:20):
There's something about your the fashion and then also your bangs.
I mean, Kelly Taylor really had perfection bangs. I don't
know how they got them to be so like, oh, roleo, wingy,
dicky out. I don't know. They really project quite additions
from my actual head. I don't know what that is.
(01:01:41):
That's some impressive blow drawings right there, you guys. I
was there in person, and I'm telling you her hair
was like you wanted to lick it. It was edible.
It was so perfect in the perfect color blonde, natural
blonde by the way. And maybe because mine was died,
I envied that. I was like perfect tear. I like frizzy,
(01:02:01):
curly hair that I had to straightened. She had this
perfect bang. Um, it was everything like people talk about
Jennifer Aniston having the Rachel cut, like there was a
Taylor bang before Jennifer Aniston. There really was. Yeah. I've
told her for years she to bring the bang back.
She wants me to get bangs again. I'm like, babe,
my hair is different now I don't have enough hair
(01:02:22):
to have bangs anymore. Like things change, you could do
subtle ones like you did. Look that I have like
baby bangs right here, but I want I want fringe.
I'm just telling you right why because you, like you know,
have beautiful hair. I love you with bangs. Thank you?
Oh my goodness. Well, I think we've had quite the
(01:02:45):
quite the episode, ladies. It's time to assign her. It's
time to make our home homework assignment for yeah the
following week. And I'm really glad that we got to
talk to Leslie and Maxwell, And you know what I
want to just say? Can you say that without picking
your nose? I scratched, didn't pick up. You know what
I wanted to say. Thank you to everybody that's already
(01:03:06):
subscribed and like spreading the word. You guys are awesome.
We knew you would be there to support us, um
but yes, I know, and you would have as much
fun as we're having. Keep up, keep up the good work.
If you guys the reviews you like the reviews to
it because I happened to love them I'm a big yelper,
So when I see reviews for our podcast, it feel
(01:03:27):
it makes me feel the same, Like if you like something,
give it five stars because it helps the sisters out. Yes, yeah,
and it helps us to know what you guys want
to hear and everything. Like they I feel like everybody
was really irritated that I say, I don't remember what
you read that I read. Don't want just maybe a
(01:03:49):
couple of the reviews. They were annoyed. They were mad
about the fact that I don't remember things. And I'm
mad about the fact that I don't remember things. But yeah,
my memory loss is real, but I'm going to push
past it. I'm gonna dive in with you guys and
watch every episode and it's going to bring back all
these great memories. Go watch episode two. Everybody, watch the
(01:04:10):
episode two so we can talk about it. Yeah, and
follow us on Instagram if you want to or don't,
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(01:04:32):
the episodes. Your memory is probably a lot better than
Jen's so has this questions and we are going to
answer them. Good idea, See you next week.
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