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March 5, 2025 • 24 mins

Minnesota Tim discusses the latest news surrounding the Minnesota Vikings and quarterback Sam Darnold, including contract negotiations and market dynamics. The conversation shifts to Trump's recent State of the Union address, highlighting the political divide and reactions from both parties. Finally, Tim reflects on Jared Allen's comments about the 2009 Vikings and the implications of hindsight in sports.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, lots to discuss, because there was some breaking
news yesterday revolving around the Minnesota Vikings and Sam Darnold,
and right now it's hard to decipher what's true and
what isn't because the big boys are stepping in. And

(00:59):
when I say big boys, we've got the Ian rap Reports,
the Tom Pelasaro's, the Adam Schefters, I heard Peter Schrager's
podcast yesterday because I had to produce it, And all
of these big boy reporters are saying and reporting the

(01:20):
exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
This from ian A Rappaport.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
The Vikings are not expected to franchise take QB sum
Donald by Tuesday's deadline, per me and Tom Pealisarow, but
all parties are working through options to potentially keep him
in Minnesota. Based on that tweet and report from Ian,

(01:50):
it appears that Donald and the Vikings are working together
to resign a multi year contract. Jordan Schultz, In's Enemy,
says this The Vikings and QB Sam Donald have been

(02:11):
in discussions about a short term deal to keep him
in Minnesota. There is mutual interest, mutual interest from both
sides following his resurgent season to keep this relationship going.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Though more work remains. Free agency is in under a.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Week, okay, So basically, taking these two reports from Schultz
and Palisaro and Rapaport, what we are seeing is that
the market is not what Donald thought it would be
or even the Vikings thought it would be. The Vikings

(02:52):
could not take Donald because there's not a team out
there that wanted to surrender a second or third round
pick to get the quarterback and have to pay him
a one year, forty one million dollar contract which goes
against the cap all of it forty one million.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Teams did not want to do that.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It seemed like too big of a risk because of
Donald's past and because of what he did the final
two weeks of the season versus the Lions and versus
the Rams when it mattered most, and also from Donald's perspective.
I said this a few weeks ago, when Donald experienced

(03:34):
what he experienced with the Jets and with the Panthers
and not so much with the forty nine ers. Is
only there for a year and it was a backup.
But what do you have experienced two horrific quarterback situations
like the Jets and Panthers, then you are gonna be

(03:57):
a little more hesitant to go back to a similar
situation like that. When there is an offer on the
deal to be in the most magnificent QB situation in
the entire NFL with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and
a TJ.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Hockinson. There is interest.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
From Donald to come back to Minnesota, and Jake said it,
I said it, and the number just has to be right.
I don't think Donald would come back to Minnesota for
ten million per year. But I also don't think that
if the Raiders offered him thirty five million a year

(04:41):
and the Vikings offered him thirty million a year, I
think he stays in Minnesota. The market is proving to
be and proving to show that they don't fully trust
Sam Darnold yet, So if Donald came back to Minnesota,
and proved it a second year.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Then the market would.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Explode even more than we thought it would this time around,
because those two.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Games at the end of the year costed.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Donald millions and millions and millions of dollars, because it
brought back everybody's fear of Sam Darnold and what he
did in the past with these two organizations. Now, someone
else that we need to point out because he is

(05:40):
the Vikings insider, is Alec Lewis.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Sorry, I got it running nose this morning.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Alec Lewis for the Athletic says this, The Vikings view
has remained consistent. They would prefer to bring him back
at a price that would not ham their attempts to
build the most well rounded roster. Essentially, Minnesota would be
opting for Donald and McCarthy at a price hovering just

(06:11):
a notch above where Daniel Jones's ask would likely land.
That would mean continuity, continuity for O'Connell, quarterbacks coach Josh
McCown and the Vikings skill group. It would mean insurance
for McCarthy in the form of a player the Vikings
know and respect, even if it extends the uncertainty at

(06:34):
the quarterback longer than anyone supporting this team might have liked.
So his report is indicating that the Vikings are not
interested in bringing Donald back at twenty twenty five to
thirty million, but more likely around.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Thirteen million, which.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Daniel Jones was projected to get this offseason based on
over the cap. And if it's thirteen million, Donald's as
good as gone. He's not signing a two year, thirteen
million dollar deal because there will be a team that
offers him at least twenty million, at least twenty five million.

(07:16):
So when I read this report, it brings me back
to the Vikings offer to Kirk Cousins. Yeah, we would
love to have Kirk Cousins back. We'd love having a
discussion with Kirk cousins agent, and we'd love to have
him back in.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
A Vikings uniform.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
We're only going to offer him a one or two
year deal with an option, but we'd.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Love to have him back. That was never happening.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
The Vikings low balled Kirk Cousins, and it was a
fair low ball because he was coming off a ruptured
achilles and look what he did in Atlanta last year.
The Vikings proved to be right in that situation and
the Atlanta Falcons gave him like a ninety million dollar
guaranteed contract, which was going to come from somewhere because

(08:08):
at least Kirk Cousins had more of a consistent NFL
resume than Sam Donald. So there was going to be
a team that paid a ton of money thinking that
they were a quarterback away from being the team that
was going to go all the way. So the Falcons

(08:29):
did that and it backfired in their faces. Sam Donald
would not return on a thirteen million dollar contract, and
it would be it's going to be interesting this next
week or so because Donald wants to come back to Minnesota.
The Vikings want Donald back, but at a specific number,

(08:52):
not at twenty five or thirty million dollars a year
based on Alec Lewis's report.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
What's going to happen, But if I was going to
guess on what was going to happen, Donald signs somewhere
else for twenty five to thirty million dollars a season
and leaves the Vikings. Because the Vikings still place such
an importance on signing guys in their specific spots that

(09:28):
they want, like a defensive tackle, secondary offensive line. So
when you factor those spots that are severe weaknesses right now.
From the Viking standpoint, they are going to let Donald
walk if that asking price gets too high.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
And that's what we're seeing from Alec Lewis.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Although there's interest based on the reporting and based on
Donald's fluctuating career of being in bad organizations and now
landing finally in a good one wanting to stay, I
think eventually the dollars amount will be too far away
from both sides to come to an agreement. Okay, second

(10:11):
topic this morning, Trump's State of the Union speech.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's basically what it was.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
He addressed the Democrats and Republicans last night at the
US Capitol, and I don't know how Trump has as
much energy as he does. The guy is wild, and
I think he lost a lot of weight too recently.
He does not look as big as he used to.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Last night.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
The speech ended right around like ten oh six, that's
eleven o'clock in Washington, d C. People from the Blue
were falling of sleep in their seats because it wasn't
their guy. But watching that speech, it makes me think
of something because Republicans are standing up and down every

(11:07):
five minutes based on what Trump said, and it's the
exact same thing every four years. When the Democrats guy wins,
they're standing up every five seconds. When the Republicans guys wins,
they stand up every five seconds to applaud their guy,
applaud and support their president that they wanted to support

(11:29):
in the first place.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And then the other side, I always just sits there.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Arms crossed, blah blah blah, this is stupid. I hate
being here, the president's stinks, whatever. But seeing those people
stand up and down, it always brings me back to
this thought, that is the greatest form of exercise that
these senators, that these people in politics have gotten.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
In their entire life.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Stand up, up and down, up and down, up and down,
up and down, up and down, and it's all we go.
It always goes a little too far from both sides,
Like do you really need to clap every ten seconds
and stand up roughly every thirty seconds to give a
standing ovation. It seems a little bit too much for me.

(12:23):
But when Trump was running through the people that he
was honoring at the event and talking about it, it
was he went through a college volleyball player, a high
school volleyball player that received a severe brain injury because

(12:44):
a man playing volleyball pretending to be a woman got
whacked in the face. And Republicans stand up, and the
Democrats don't, of course, because they are pro trans and
they're all about the rights and.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Blah blah blah blah blah. And then he went through
a couple of them. More.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
There is a thirteen year old boy that was dressed
in a police officer's uniform and at eight years old,
he was diagnosed with brain cancer. Doctors gave him a
five percent chance to live, and Trump honored the boy
and put him in this US Secret Service. The boy

(13:28):
gave the US Secret Service guy a hug, and it
was a touching moment and a heartfelt moment, and it
was awesome and incredible. Of course, Republicans are standing up.
This boy overcame all the odds and is miraculously still
alive at thirteen years old.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
And his dad and the boy, they're.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Pomped, they're excited as they should be. Democrats sent over
their hands folded, not standing. It's like when that sits you,
suation happens. That is not about Trump, that's not about
taking sides.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's not about if.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
You're left or right, it's not some policy that Trump
is enforcing that Democrats, Hey, whether it be a tax
cut or signing an executive order to slow down illegal immigration,
it's not about any of that.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
What it's about.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Is a boy overcoming cancer when he had a five
percent chance to live and is now being honored because
of how he's battled against brain cancer. Like, that's not
a left or right wing thing, that's not a policy.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
What are you doing.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
With your hands folded, sitting in your chair when there's
a thirteen year old kid being honored for something incredible
And it was the most touching moment of the night.
And because of Trump being the guy, Democrats wouldn't stand.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
And that's the problem with politics.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
When it's Biden, everything's great, everything's fantastic. He can do
nothing wrong. He's intelligent, he's totally with it.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
He's not slow. He's the smartest person in the room.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
And then as soon as Biden looks terrible in a
debate versus Trump, and all flips on its head. Oh yeah,
he slowly declined. You've seen it for years, Like what
how can he not tell? Like you can tell this
guy's off, Like, let's get this guy out of here.
And bring in his VP. It's the problem with politics

(15:59):
is because these and it's probably true about both sides,
but last night it is true about the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Regardless of what happened.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
The Democrats were not standing and applauding heroes at the
State of the Union, whether that be a kid that
overcame brain cancer at eight and had a five percent
chance of.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Surviving, whether that be.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
They had some other people being honored to the wife
and two daughters of the guy that died from the Butler,
Pennsylvania assassination attempt of Trump. Trump honored those guys last night,
whether that be the guy that Trump got out of

(16:56):
Russia only twenty two days in to his presidency with
his ninety five year old mom sitting by his side.
Does none of that matter? Is it not about the
American people? Or is it about your prideful egos. That's

(17:17):
the problem with politics. They are so prideful and so
power hungry that even though there are guys not in
office right now, they cannot recognize that there have been
good things happening, and the American people have sided with

(17:38):
Trump more than not. When the Democrats push against Trump,
they are pushing against the American people because Trump flipped
every swing state. Trump got more votes from Blacks, Latinos,
Hispanics than he did four years ago.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So when the Democrats sit.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Like this through the entire speech, they are actually disagreeing
with what the American people want because they think they
are supposed to do that based on their pride, their ego,
and where they stand politically, when it has nothing to
do with politics.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Some of the stories that he ran.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Of course, you know, we talked about the task because
he's talking about his policies. Okay, I get why you're
not gonna stand because it's not your policy, and of
course you're not gonna agree with it.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
But when you're talking about people that have overcome.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Odds or are dealing with massive affliction, whether the death
of a loved one or or whatever the case may be,
and you stand down there, shrug your shoulders and cross
your arms and don't give arets you know what about
the situation?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Why what is happening inside your mind that you cannot stand.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
And give a round.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Of applause to a thirteen year old kid who overcame
brain cancer, who just now got honored with being a
member of the US Secret Service. This is the boys moment.
This is not a Republican or Democrat moment. This is stupid.
I just can't believe it. Can't believe it. And these

(19:34):
are the same people asking for your vote every two
or every four years. Talk about how I care about
the American people, how I know what's best for you,
how I know what you need and I'm going to
be the one that delivers it. Yet you can't stand
for the most heroic thing that we saw all night.

(19:58):
It's just I just gi I just can't believe it.
All Right, one more story to talk about Jared Allen.
This gonna be a quick story. He's got elected into
the Hall of Fame. He was at TCO Performance Center
answering questions and he said this about the twenty nineteen
It kills me that we didn't get to a super

(20:19):
Bowl because I really do feel like in two thousand
and nine, if we go to the super Bowl, we're
hands down winning it.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
That was a special year. Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
These are statements, and I've talked about this before. These
are statements that so many professional athletes say after they retired.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Or once they're on a new team.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
You know, if we just stayed together, we would have
been NBA or Super Bowl champions. But the money got
in the way. There are empty statements that sounds so
authoritative and so convincing. You know, if we just beat
the Saints in nine, we would have owned the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
How can he say that if we just stuck together and.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Didn't leave or or money didn't get in the way
of us being together, we would have won the Super Bowl.
We don't even know if Brett Favre would have played
in the two thousand and nine Super Bowl. Remember those
pictures that he posted online of his ankle. I'm sure
you would have taken every single painkiller in the world
so that he would have played, because that's just who

(21:38):
Brett Favre was. But he wouldn't have been one hundred
percent for that game, even after a two week break.
Brett Farr's ankle was swollen, beat beaten, and bruised because
of the bounty the Saints put on him in that game.
So we don't know if the Vikings would have won

(22:00):
the Super Bowl because one they didn't make it there,
and two we wouldn't have known just how healthy Brett
farv would have been to get to the Super Bowl,
And at that point in time, Brett Favre had an
incredible season, but Drew Brees was the better quarterback and

(22:23):
Sean Peyton was a much better head coach than Brad Childress.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I would think.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
That the Saints with Drew Brees and Sean Payton have
a better chance to win a Super Bowl than Brad
Childress and Brett Favre. So just because the Saints beat
the Colts in two thousand and nine does not mean
the Vikings would have beaten the Colts in two thousand

(22:51):
and nine. The stars don't necessarily always align like that.
It's not just because they beat them, well, we would
have beat them too, And because we played them close
to beat the Colts doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So just because.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Jared Allen said it post retirement and it sounds convincing
and authoritative and every people and everyone wants to believe it. Oh,
if we just got past the Saints, Jared Allen would
have said, we won the Super Bowl. What does it matter.
Didn't make it to the Super Bowl anyways, And even if
they made it to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
There's no guaranteeing that the Vikings would have done it.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Tracy Porter had to pick right then he picked six
Payne Manning. In that game, the Saints had the on
side kick coming out of halftime.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
We have no idea how.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That game would have shaped up, no idea, so just
wanted a quick rant on that one.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
All right, everyone, thank you for watching this.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
My podcasts have been longer recently, and I hope you've
been enjoying the different touch of topics that I've been delivering.
It's been fun and it re energizes me to touch
on the world of sports. This is a Vikings podcast predominantly,
and I open every podcast with that, but it's fun
to go through the range of politics and different things
that are said. So thanks for sticking with me and

(24:06):
making this podcast a part of your day.
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