The Realities Behind Reality TV with Marlo Hampton

In this compelling episode of Across Generations, reality TV star, entrepreneur, and philanthropist Marlo Hampton takes center stage. Best known for her role on The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Marlo opens up about her journey from foster care to building a successful life in the spotlight. She shares her experiences navigating the world of reality TV, the challenges of overcoming stereotypes, and her mission to empower young girls in foster care through her nonprofit, Glam It Up. Host Tiffany Cross facilitates an honest, heartfelt conversation about resilience, sisterhood, and the impact of reality TV on Black culture.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to a Cross Generations where the voices of black
women unite. I'm your host, Tiffany Cross. Tiffany Cross. Tiffany,
We gather a season elder myself as the middle generation,
and a vibrant young soul for engaging intergenerational conversations, prepared
to engage or hear perspections that no one else is happy.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know how we do?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
We create magic, Cate magic. Hey everybody, I'm Tiffany Cross,
your host of Across Generations, and today we're discussing reality TV.
So I gotta be honest, it's not my thing. I
don't watch any of the franchises. I've never seen a
full episode of Basketball Wives, or Real Housewives, or Love
and Hip Hop, none of it. So I'm kind of

(00:49):
a virgin in this territory. And I say kind of
because I used to be obsessed with the Real World.
I remember when it launched in nineteen ninety one, and
I thought it was the coolest thing for all these
young people to be living in this house, and they
had assignments and cameras followed them and pursuit of their careers,
and of course there was drama. I still remember Kevin
Powell fighting with Julie. I remember Rachel and Puck. I

(01:10):
remember the Real World Miami and all that drama, and
then at some point, I don't know, I just kind
of fell off and I have my own drama to
deal with. That was a young woman navigating my own path.
But since then, America has become obsessed with reality TV,
so obsessed that they actually elected one of the genres
the President of the United States, despite that very important

(01:30):
job being that man's first job in government. Anyway, reality
TV has always pushed boundaries when it comes to privacy, drama,
and more. But when it comes to black folks, I
got some problems with it. With all of our glory
and beauty and swagger and intellect and desire and anguish,
it's rarely depicted. We're often reduced to feuding women or
philandering men or wealth and drama and mess. And I

(01:52):
know a lot of y'all watched it. Y'all might be
mad at me for talking about your favorite entertainment, but
this is why I'm really excited to have a comrace
with one of your favorite stars. And I am obsessed
with her already. So today we're joined by Marlow Hampton.
She's a reality TV star, entrepreneur, philanthropist. She's best known
for her presence on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Marlow

(02:13):
is the founder of La Archive, a luxury fashion showroom,
and she's passionate about giving back through her nonprofit glam
It Up, which mentors girls in foster care. Her story
is full of resilience and success and is truly inspiring,
and I'm so thrilled to have her join us here
on the Cross Generations. Marlowe, we have already been chatting,
so we are kind of birthday twins.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
We are we need to have a birthday party.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, we're the best. So she is February seventh. I'm
February sixth.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I love it. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, I'm so happy you're here. You have such an
interesting background. I've been reading about you since yesterday and
all morning, Like I'm like Google stalked you. I know
all your business.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, So, Marlow, how did you find your way to
reality TV?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
How did I my way to reality TV? One thing?
I was at my boutique. Do you have you ever
heard the permanent mall is well known mall here?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I grew up here in Atlanta, yet.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
So I was.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I had a boutique there and a lot of people.
I mean, I had the boutique there and at the time,
what's about mom names Teresa, She had an amazing boutique
too back then.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
This is what like twenty years ago, almost twenty years ago.
So one day I'm in the boutique and Princess this
a lady named Princess.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
The producer. She was one of the originals who start
House Atlanta. She originally started it. She came into the
boutique and she was like.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hey, you're the fabulous Marlow I've been hearing about and
you need to come over to this show I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
She really recruited me for the show. At the time,
I'm like, heck, no, I'm not doing that show. No, lady,
I barely even watched the show. I knew it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Does she look like us?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
She yeah, she looked just like us, really down there smart.
You'll love Princess. Okay, So long story short, that's how
came onto the show. And right before then, like a
year before I want to say season three, because I
came on season four, So two or three. Ninia and
Candy they even filmed this season. That might boutique style them.
So it was just like full circle. But that's how

(04:10):
I really got introduced, honestly from Princess.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, so forgive my ignorance. I know y'all gonna be
so mad at me, like they ain't give me. I
don't know anything. But my team was telling me this morning, like,
oh no, Marlowe got her peach.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh yeah, what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I can you in the bags and say marlow finally
got a peach? Then Marlo finally don't have it anymore?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But what did that even? Like, I guess what was
it before you had your peach? And what?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
So when I first came on, you had housewives and
then I don't even know you've probably had a I
think back then you had Lawrence as a friend in Dwayne,
but you don't even Dwight.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Okay, but you don't even know how the show goes.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
And it's mainly about housewives being on the show, okay,
and everyone back then everyone probably was a housewife just
about them. Okay, so I was not. But then you
bring me around this Nini's friend, and I have this
larger than life personality. Yes, que, So it's like, hey,
we got to keep this girl around. Yeah, so it
was really like a position made like I became a
friend up. So I was like, how are we going

(05:08):
to do this? Because I went on every trip, I
filmed most of the time as if I was a housewife,
but I just didn't have the title as a housewife.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I didn't get paid, but housewives got paid.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
But you were getting paid.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Oh I was getting paid not right away, okay, every
way I was not.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
He was disappearing for free.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I was just appearing for free. Well it was free
to some but not to me because I got a
lot of perks. I got a lot of gigs, I
got a lot of appearances, have a lot of doors
for me. So but at the time, I wasn't worried
about the money. I was in a billionaire at that time,
so he didn't even want me on the show. And
then when we kind of was breaking up and I
went on, you know, I did the show.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I'm like, you know what, they got to.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Do something for myself and I just got to get
out here and just got my comfort zone and try
something out. So after ten years, ten years, eight years,
I just got my peach with two years ago. So
I finally got my peach, and the world was happy
about me getting the peach. So, yeah, you fans of
Real Housewives of Atlanta, that was a big deal. And

(06:04):
to be honest with you, I wasn't happy about it.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
You weren't.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I was not why because I loved being a friend.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I felt the show isn't a bad place, and don't
think I can come and just save this show. I
came on with the originals. It was a different type
of show. It's a different day and age, and I
feel the show just got dark all of a sudden,
like a lot of us didn't have respect for each other.
We went too far below the bell, including me, and
a lot of the girls have never respected me.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
They hated my story.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
They hated that I was sitting on the couch with them,
and maybe they went to Harvard or they went here,
and they went to this school, and hey, I'm just
from Saint Petersburg, Florida, and I've been to jail before.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I'm from five different foster homes. I'm from the hood.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And they probably felt you weren't supposed to be sitting
here with me. So we were upset with but God
had my story to.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Be well, They're not here, So I'll take your word
for it because I don't. I didn't see it, But
I think when I hear things like that, like if
somebody doesn't want you to be there, I think we
have so much trauma as a people, and so if
I'm looking at somebody, it's like if I need to
look down on you to feel better about myself, it

(07:10):
comes back to brokenness in me, not about your presence there.
And I think that's kind of my challenge with reality TV.
It is because like Marlowe, we've been talking since you
walked in, and I'm like fascinated by like you do
have this presence about you that feels very warm and sisterly,
and but then.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
On this show I understand at different right. And today
before I came, I was talking to my hairstylist star.
She's like, Marlowe, you're nothing like I thought. She said,
I did not want to do your hair. She said
when my friend called me to do your house, like,
do not leave me with that woman. I'm not going
to her house and she says something to me, I'm
leaving out.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
She's like, you're nothing. She's like, I want you to
talk to your shit more.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yes, absolutely. She's like, I want you to talk to
your shit more. I want you to teach your horn.
But I'm nothing.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I am like what you see. I'm a straight shoot,
I say what's on my mind. I'm authentic as can be.
But it's a it is it show? Yeah, I realized
right now we could be sitting here and everything I
said I did say they.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Could be taking out of context.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
They could be saying like, girl, yeah I'm tired of
this and I went over here and that's such and such.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
They're in that room. They're fat with editing.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
So I'm on a ten hour day of shooting. You
see one hour, you're able to see me twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, you don't know me, You don't.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
You don't really know more life.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Like they've made. But that's part of my challenge. They've
reduced you to this caricature and it just feels like
it's trafficking in mess when the reality is Black women
are such a tight knit community. Like when we see
each other, it's like I don't know you, but I
know you, you know, And when we see each other it's
like yes, shoes, yes out, yes here at all?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Really okay, So then let's talk about that because I
think I want.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
To go back to one thing to now go for it.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
A lot of people look down on me because of
Reality TV, and they feel the exact same way you feel.
It's awful. It brings the black woman down. I agree
with you on certain aspects.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
With me coming into.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
It, it was good for me, and I don't regret it.
It was good for me. It was good from where
I came from. I came from a mom's substance abuse,
I came from physical abuse, five different foster homes, on
the streets, drug dealers, thugs Like I told you, I
had a rough life growing up. It wasn't always just
Chanelle and looking fabulous.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
It was rough.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
So when I had that opportunity, I felt like, God,
I don't have to depend on a man for this.
I don't have to depend on anyone for this. This
is my I have a job, I made it. I'm
on TV. Mama look at me like you know. So
that was something so big for me. And then when
I do speak with you and I hear other people's opinions,
it does bother me, but it's truthful. As I've matured

(09:54):
and as I've grown now and as I have boys now, yeah, yeah,
those my nephews. Yeah, my nephews, my babies, yes, two.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Of them, Yes, well I saw pictures. They are so handsome,
high Bulaize. I hope I meet you, handsome me and
Michael and William. I'm wishing the best for you all.
I hope I meet them one day.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
So that's what I want people sometime to step out
and say, let me get to know her though, like
you did when I walked in here. If you were
to watch the show, you probably I don't know if
she coming out, but guess what I need.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You was so good. I'm glad you didn't watch the show. Yeah,
I'm glad you don't even know what was going on
and supt what you were.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh yeah, all right, because people really judge you from that,
and I want the world to know. It's my story,
it's my path, and I don't regret it. That's what
God had in store for me. And I'm not ashamed
of my johnty yeah, because I feel I've learned so
much from it and I'm still learning from it. And
I can also teach others, the young girls who look
up to me and who come behind them, like hey

(10:52):
and then all what you think it is? Ye girl,
watch what you say. Think before you speak on there.
People are going to judge you certain rooms I want
to go in, I can because they judge me from
reality TV serve rooms I belong in, Well, I won't
because if I did, got to have me.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Butoms you belong at any room you walk in, I
don't want to go into.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, it's a judgment thing.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like you're judging me off an hour show that
you see me twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, I do want to be clear about some of
the marloloe, and that is I don't look down on anybody.
I definitely don't look down on you, and I don't
look down on people who watch reality TV either. I
do look down on producers and the people who make
money off of these women. And I know because some
of my friends are telling me, like, no, girl, you
got to see how these white women act like it

(11:37):
might be bad with black one, but these white women
are unhands. I'm like, what has they community? Like they
need to talk amongst themselves about that. I'm concerned about
my community and I try to be someone who lives
in service to the culture. And when I see something
that doesn't serve our culture. I can't look at you
and be mad because you got something out of it,
but I can look at networks that make a profit
out of reducing us. The little bit that I've heard

(11:58):
about your story, I'm like, this is the fact. Your
story is fascinating how you grew up, and I want
to hear more about how you grew up, but just
that you were successful and that you you know from
Saint Pete, and that you built this life. And you
look and smell like money now you know, you look
like smell like it.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I looked like, man, I ain't had no money now.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
But either way, like you are thriving, you know, and
you're if you're thriving spiritually, then you're thriving. And so
I don't know that viewers got to see that aspect
on the franchise.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
They absolutely they did not get to see it all. Yeah,
and I do regret that. I remember one time, I'll
never forget this. Some producers and I went to my
mother's house when she lived over in with Ownia, and
it was finally like their story with me was just
dating men with money and show material stuff. That's the
character they wanted me to be or that's just how
it was edited off, because you know, I talked about

(12:50):
many I had nice things.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know. I know I'm coming out here like what
I'm on TV? Yeah, just so wild can and myself.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
So I remembers a couple of years in we went
over to my mother house.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
So my mom was like when in the producers came
in and we were sitting there here, Uh, we're sitting
right there in the kitchen and she went in refrigerating.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
And took a beer out drinking her beer. Motherfucker. I
tried to do the best I can with you and
this the producers left out crying. They're like, wow, wow,
yeah you don't understand this too. So see you just
see the Niguchi and Luis and you think that's what
my life is all about.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
So that time, like even they're sitting talking and I
was sad and like, ma, you're not getting it, Like
can you come down? Can you not drink? And yeah,
my mom was being my mom, which that's the mother
I know and I love. That's the only mom I know.
But guess what, you can't relate to that mom. That's
not the mom, you know. And can't relate to that
mom at all.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, the producers.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Can't relate to it. And I mean they left crying.
And to this day, you guys have never seen that, right,
Why I'm gonna no one has.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
How did they handle that moment?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You've never seen?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Then?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Why I'll have to.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
So you so you didn't ask them.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
To just knowing they just felt like that wasn't for them. Yeah,
that's not like, oh it was too deep. Yeah, but
I feel that they would have shown it. It would
have shown people more about me where I come from,
Why I am the way I am? Why do you
hold my card up? Why do just I'll jump off?
And while you know, like Marlowe is going to go
below the belt, you come and try and hurt me,

(14:29):
I'm taking you all the way to the ground.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
So I just I don't feel.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think I'm so happy you trusted us to share
that moment with us. I think you tell me if
I'm wrong. But what I've been told by people who
worked on reality TV before is they might come to
you and say, you know, marlow Tiffany was shit talking
you and she said that you think you aught at
And what's your response? You know, and then they go
to me and they're like, oh, Marlowe, was ship talking

(14:56):
to you like I would be a boring.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Gas member because, honest mess, I really like Marlo. I'm
sorry she feels that way, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So it is like they are using what you give them,
but it just feels like they're they're adding fuel.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
To a fire.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Absolutely that.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's just I don't like it. You brought up Andy Cohen.
I'm gonna just tell you what I gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Is it me?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
He might be nicey, but I find his behavior incredibly racist.
I think he this like cosplay black women speak that
he does. I feel like he's speaking down to the
cast sometimes, like Andy, for your own interest, don't ever
address me as boo, you know, like we it is
something magical that happens when black women gather.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a private experience. It's for us.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I think he does know that, and that's why he does.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
He really does love black women as in it's a
life that he probably never experienced as a little boy,
and it's like, Wow, I've created this and we're amazing.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
We agree amazing, especially when we sick together.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, but something about it we get on reality TV
and someone says, Okay, you're the star.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
So you think now you're better than me.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I feel that when people try and label who's the
star who's not, We're all the star. Yeah the star, baby,
don't tell me I'm a star coming from the hood.
I'm gonna start going through everything I've been through. I'm
still a star. And I feel it takes a.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Lot of.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Reminding yourself that, because there's been times I'm like, oh
my god, Timsy, I'm gonna like me, I can't come
in there circle. I'm not smart enough or I'm not
well spoken enough, and so I'm gonna tell you another story.
I don't really tell that many people. And my manager's
here in the audience with us today. One day she
was reaching out to different people for me to host

(16:37):
and this company, She's like, oh, I really want you
to host this TV show and Easter Ray was a
host on the show as well, and they emailed her
back and she was so sad, and I'm like, what's wrong.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
She's like, I'm just so tired.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Of people not knowing who you are and judging you
from this TV show and I'm like, what's wrong. She
was like, well, I had this hosting deal for you
out in La. And they responded back and they were like,
they don't think that you're there tight if you're not
for them. I'm like, well am I not for a
black TV show with black women?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Like? And it really hurt me.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, But long story short, I got out there. When
I got there, someone knocked on my door and she
came in and she said, you know what, Marla, I
just want.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
To apologize to you. I'm like why.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
She's like, I didn't want you to come, like I
didn't think and you're amazing, And I was like, thank
you so much, like it just tears came to my eyes,
and I had an amazing visit. It was a great show,
but just for her, and I love that she was
so honest and she came and apologized, and that's what
I get a lot. I get a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's like she's like, how am I not for you?
Especially if you're a black woman, if you're a black sister,
if you see it should be something you see in
me to week, Like Marlo, you know what, that girl?
You gotta do better than that. You got those boys. Now,
I'm gonna come out let you every other week or
you're gonna hop on the phone with me.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
But people, I feel black sisters, and I hate to
say it. I know how you love my black sisters.
I love the ones who love me.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I don't get a lot of love from I don't
since Reality TV. I really don't. And it's sad to
say that.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
So why do you think that is?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
If I'm too extra with five and chills on every
time I enter a room. Is it because the reality TV?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
They hate it? Like you hate it, but don't hate
it that much? Or you hate me?

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, something good than me, Yeah, don't hate it, because
that's where I came from. That was a job, a
job I had. It was a work for me, coming
from my hood in Saint Petersburgh. I made it. I
made it just like anyone else you know that came.
It's just it wasn't what you wanted for you. But
coming from my family. When I go back to my hood,

(18:43):
oh miss Marlowe, Oh marlow And they don't know all
the times I've cried about episodes, things people have said
about me, brought up in my past. So it's it's
I catch twenty twenty, and it's good that you're saying
how you feel, which I admire that and I respect it.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
But it's good too. You can see what I'm coming.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, because no matter how tough we act on there
and I'm oh, you this and you that, girl, I'd
be in the bathroom crying out to some minutes and
yeah coming back and bouncing back, Oh yeah, and don't
you come for me? And don't And it's like, I'm
tired of this. I'm tired of it. I came from this.
I came from my mom arguing, a fussing, and I'm
drinking and fighting. I came on Bravo Real Housewives at

(19:23):
Atlanta thinking we're gonna get together. We're gonna sit at
the table and we're gonna be like, okay, girl, now
what we're gonna do next scene?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
And we're going to eat and we're going to drink afterwards.
I'm like, oh, this ship is real. This is real. Yeah,
We're like going below the bell.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
We're trying to figure out if your husband's cheating on you,
if you didn't pay your light bill, if you old taxi.
It's like, this is real. We're trying to take each
other down.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
But what if everybody refused to do that. What if
everybody said, no, I'm like, I'm not talking about this
woman's married, Like.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Well you know all those girls on there and go
ask Candy Ken, you need to everybody would why would
they stop?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I wish they didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do it because I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Think new to it, so I get following, but always
what goes on and I just I didn't know how
to do a proper read as they say, she read you.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I'm not I'm authentic. Yeah, yeah, I'm not good with acting.
That's why I have an acting gift. Yeah I've done too,
but I'm just so real.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, I will tell you what something that you said
that's giving me a different perspective, and that is how
you said it was good for you and like your
self esteem and like you made it and looking at
your journey, and that does warm my heart. The part
that I find frustrating with the industry is why can't
there be other platforms for you to have that same
sense of pride and you know, come up with and

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you know like this is what.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I've survived and here's what I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Doing, and it just seems like an unfair landscape. You
know that the landscape. For some of us to succeed
in front of the camera has to traffic in mess
and I just look, we are participants in it. We're
not the architects of it. So that's why I get
upset at the platform itself.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And I don't know Marlow. I don't have like a
suggestion for it.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
But I do wonder what would happen on all these
franchises as black women if somebody, like, right now, somebody
can't come to me and tell me something negative about you,
and they can't come to me and tell me something
negative that you said about me. One I will not
honor being a sounding board for that. Right It's like,
you know, I don't need to hear that I had
a wonderful experience with Marlow.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Let me just yes.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
And they want me to say something, I'm gonna say no.
I don't have anything bad to say about Marlow. I'm
sorry that she felt differently, but I really like Marlow.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And that's it. That's the end of the scene.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's all you did is text me the other day.
He's like, what do you do on that show? Me
and my wife are at dinner. We're cursing people out
of about how great you are, how much of a
great aunt you are. I'm like, don't watch it.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yes, well let's talk about you being a great aunt.
Because we were talking about our nephews. I have two
boy nephews. I have more than two, but fourteen and
fifteen the Dayleen and Davy. So you're fifteen and seventeen
and you are literally they're in your home. You're raising them.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Now six years strong in April.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
How did that come to be?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Came to be with the phone call one day my
nephew is like, Auntie, can you come get us?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm like, yeah, you know, I just had foot surgery,
Bunyon surgery.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
And I was staying in the hotel and had a
couple of friends over and I was like, hey, I
can't drive. I was like, hey, come in, take me
overay to get my nephews. Something must be going on
in my crazy family as well as drama. Let me
just get the babies out of that environment for a
couple of days.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And now it's going six.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Years okay, and it looks like it might be definitely promise.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
How's that been going?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
The first year was tough at hell, no joke. I
just thought I was going to give up.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
I couldn't take it because think about it, I'm just
used to being Auntie. When you call, you get something
and go. I used to party in having fun. You said, girl,
let's hop on the plane. Where I was just my
house was immaculate, like a show room.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
It was just waking up when I wanted to just
for work. Yeah, and it just came about. God's like, no,
I got something else for your baby.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, I got something else. You're gonna be a full
time mommy. I'm like, no, no, but.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
You are a full time You move like a full
We knew he got three minutes.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Were like, let me tell you, my baby.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I know that that's love though, that's love is and
I would have loved to see that. I know you said.
They did do that.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Like that a little bit the last two years.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
They didn't really get too far, too deep into the sea,
so I wish they were. They came and saw while
I was from in Saint Pete, saw you know, my family,
like more deep into the family.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, but I will watch that like my mom. I
mean they saw a little bit, but yeah, it's so
much more to Marlow than with this.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
But I would watch a Marlowe series. I'm raising my nephews.
Here's where I come from. Like to me, that's more
uplifting to the culture of like man like, look at this,
and that's more inspirational to a young woman looking at
it's not you right round with people, but it's like, no,
I'm out here living realize life, raising raising black men.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
And she's like, I need a marlow show, a Monty show. Yes,
you and these boys.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I think that would be a much more interesting show
than watching women snipe at each other, like, cause that's
the show where I'm rooting for you. And it's like,
oh my god, look at it.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
You want to see like and we relate to it,
cause things and stuff that you really can relate to.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
We all have challenging family dynamics. You know.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I wasn't raised with a silver so I left home
at sixteen, you know, so I had Yeah, I had
my own story. So I truly want you to know
I understand you when you say like I'm I don't mind.
Well they say in the church, my story don't look
like my glory.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Glory like my story, and.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Bro, stop judging me from the way I dress or
this or that. Just get to know me. Yeah, and
then of course and me. You know, we're stubborn. It'll
be like screw you.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
But then you know where it goes. Cry because we're
really sensitive, very sensitive. Don't don't listen to me. We
are very sensitive, freaking sensitive. But we come all so
strong because I feel I have to protect Marlowe. I
have to at all means necessary. I don't know you're
protecting little Marley.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I am all the things you survive and the things
this is what this in my home process through therapy,
and you know, I say, my journey home to myself,
the journey we're all on what was denied little Marlowe,
you know. And a little bit I know about you
going up in foster care and having an alcoholic mother.
It's like, I'm not going to deny little Marlowe anymore.

(25:44):
So if somebody is putting down little Marlowe, I'm gonna
protect her with a sword and not open arms. If
somebody's coming from marlow I'm gonna protect her with this
acid tongue and not love.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
So I get there.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, you're gonna have to see through all that toughness.
You're gonna have to say, girl, come over, here, yeah,
or you need some love. Yeah, And I would say again,
thank God for the boys, because no I tyge out
my boys.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I'm like, Okay, I don't want them to see someone
say this about me. When I'm on the show and
I'm talking, I'm like, don't say this. Michael is looking,
and people in at high.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
School and school they're me and the teachers are looking,
and I'm going out here raising hell if they do
something to my baby. So I can't be on the
TV show looking the damn food. Yeah, So I just
said God, thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
How do you think reality TV has changed from I
think twenty eleven is when you came on the scene
and now we're fourteen, thirteen years later. How do you
think it's changed in that time.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I think it's changed tremendously. It's changed a lot is
and now you see a lot of us con burning
over to scripture shows and they're taking it serious because
reality TV is wearing them down and draining them and
breaking up their households, and some of them can't, you know,
handle it. I would even say for us with Broco,
I've seen a major difference New York Housewives and Beverly Hills,

(27:03):
those were all white women. You see a nice diverse
crowd of beautiful women now, so a lot of diversity,
definitely on Beverly Hills in New York.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Has it changed for the better or the worse or.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I think it's changed for I think it's fifty to fifty.
I love that you're seeing more of us now, which
I know you hate this. You see him more of
us Beverly Hills or New York. I feel that if
we get the opportunity do it, just be smart. You're
not right now. If you went on there, you're gonna

(27:39):
get them together. You're not going to be on there
just cursing, looking crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I would be boring. I would be a boring. Yeah,
I'm not gonna fight with anybody.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
You're not, and you would tell them that, And that's
what I feel.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
I was like girl Cynthia Bailey, she's just going to
ship a fight with us, but she didn't go as
crazy as that.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, so I just wish I knew like girl.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Okay, so you're upset, so you're a man, Yeah you
really bothered to day, Maybe don't be that bothered.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Don't mess up people to sha But it's classic shade though.
I would just approp you ain't gonna be able to
come up with would friends?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, I would not you if somebody through shape or
if they were mad at me, I was just like,
oh my god, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
You like to do. I just did a little uh say,
and I did a little Instagram thing. It was like,
I said, now, if someone come for you, what you're
gonna say? She said, oh what she said, I'm no,
don't mess with my friends. Yeah. So funny because it's
so me. I'm so protective. Yeah, friends and people I love.
So no, we're not gonna let you come on there

(28:41):
because I'll be fighting the people. Yes, so yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
It's not like I'm like a pushover. But if it's
an environment that is toxic, it's like I think, yeah,
I'm not gonna absorb toxicity by osmosis and then add
to it. You know, it's like maybe I can introduce
a different level, but I don't. But I don't have
a desire like I me and Andy would fight like
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Like, lord, are you really gonna be off?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Not because I.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Would have to let Andy know, like I like, don't
talk to me like that, you know, like I don't,
and I hear you saying that. You know, No, he
loves black women. I think he loves a certain kind
of black women, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I feel everyone has what they love. He ain't never
say that Andy, I feel. But I got closer to
Andy the last two years of me having my p
I felt that I would say the network and whole
they weren't too fond of me of all the years
because when I first came on, like I told y'all

(29:37):
was well off.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I didn't need to show. No one could tell me
anything to do. They offered me a contract which a
lot of people don't know where they pretend they forgot
Ninnie Leek's and Greg's that he said in my living
room and he said, sign this deal. And I'm like,
I'm not signing this deal. I don't need them. Let peanuts.
Yeah that money, child, you know, I'm not going to
have anyone running me.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
So I didn't sign it, but they still I love
my personality. So I just wasted time going back and
forth with them with attorneys. I don't know why they
really don't, but I know for sure someone at Network
did not like me.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I don't know who it was, but they were not
philing Marlowe for years, but they kept me around because
I was looking the neck of the food. I guess
it was like, damn, she's bringing in numbers, but we
really don't mess with her. And eventually they got to
see more of me.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
I think, here more of my story as the years went,
and when I got the peach, that's when I really
met when I got closer to the end, talking to them more,
feeling more comfortable, meaning says in other women on the
network and other women.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Like and the And I was not trying to say
Bravo is the network in the production. That's she's truely original.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, and I got really close to Lauren and Lorraine,
so like we formed a relationship then, but in the
beginning they definitely I don't feel like people are living
for me the network.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Ravo wasn't do.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You mind saying how much you were paid?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
But you do mine?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
But I wasn't making Candy Birds money.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Now that's my next question. Is everybody paid the same amount?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Candy and Ninni and Kenya probably were our top three paid, Okay,
So I.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Won't ask you how much, But can you give me
a ballpark of like low end to high end how
much a reality star might make.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Well, now it's awful. Really, I don't hear they make
anything now think about it. That was ten years ago.
I was kind of like grandfather did okay? I got
in when my position was like just made. They weren't
paying friends. It was just you were excited to be
around TV. I was like, I'm not coming on every episode,
every trip, and you're not paying me.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, So I did.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Probably I probably didn't get paid probably two episodes episodes.
I didn't care. We went to Africa. I didn't get
paid before then, but from there on I was getting.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Paid so on the low and if somebody's a friend
now versus somebody.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Who's like a star or whatever, it's so different. I
literally have no concept the people have been.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I mean, they definitely make a million. You have people, okay,
million dollars a year, and is that the high end
that's I mean a million maybe a little over maybe
a little over a million two okay.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
And on the low end.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
The low end, they could be making probably ooh maybe.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Maybe fifteen In episode fifteen K fifteen k okay, maybe,
and how many episodes.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
You're trying to keep all the drama going so you
can keep them going.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, you're hoping we have fourteen episodes before eighteen?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay, yeah, okay, those.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Are something low, Like I would say something like that,
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
But six to seven figures, yeah, definitely, I'd be curious
because then you break that down.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
If you're shooting ten hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh you you because I'm like some people, if you're
the friend okay, and you're making fifteen k a episode,
it might sound like a lot of money, but when.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
You break down, right, like are you really gaining and whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
They pay y'all, and then you have network is going
to happen precise taxes, if you got a manager, if
you got a social media person, if all of that episode.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
That's my point, nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And whatever they're paying y'all, the network is making ten
times that.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
If you pay attention and you want on reality TV,
you don't see their life changing toil like their fourth episode.
You're not really making no money at season one, two
and three. Yeah, Like if you look at the ladies
on Raalhouse as a Potomac, you can tell they're making money.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Now you see the clothes, you see the lifestyle. So
that's even with us. If you go back to when
we first started with Needing Them season one, two, yeah, three,
and so after your third episode is where you really
start making it?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
And then are you really making money?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Because he said, we need to be making five million,
four million because you have to pay half uncle Sam. Yes,
and then you got to pay out so many people.
So that's why you have to have so many gigs.
And that's why I hate this snack Gota keep saying
the name. But that's even with Ken. You see she
keeps so many jobs.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, because you're making all this money, are you really
going to be working all these other jobs? I'm not. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I'm not. I want to solve life now.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So small old Todd and I worked at BT Together.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Production.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, so we I was uh an executive producer of
BT News and he was like our production guys the time.
I'm like, traveled together, like do all this stuff. So
it was so interesting seeing him become a character on
the show. And I, you know, of course, grew up
with Candy on Escape and the whole very talented, yes.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yes, so, but I haven't.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I only know her in that context, so I don't
know how she comes across from the show. But anytime
I've seen her personally like, she's been lovely. So I
do like it, But I feel like everybody is underpaid
on the show. Yeah, I would like to see it
looked a little different. Do you think that reality TV?

(34:54):
If it's not the drama, if it's not a fight,
is it still interesting to people?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Would you see you?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
It would be interesting.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Maybe I don't know know, but I mean you would
want to hear a failthy you were love here where
I came from.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Broun's house, I thought was so good exactly, but it
was cute.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
You don't have that. We need that back. The ratings
are on the trauma.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I will watch your show. I will watch you raising
your nephew. So that's something I think so many people
will find relatable. And it's that is such a common
story with black folks because sometimes you are the only
one who made it, you know, And so when you
the one who made it, it's like, well, nephew need
money for his tuxedo, and your niece need a prim dress,

(35:39):
and you know, And I just think there are so
many people across the country, and you're taking care of
mama and you're taking care of kids and family.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
People see and they're always like, oh, you're talking about money.
You're richard girl, I'm not rich. Yeah, I have good credit.
Boster grandmother taught me credit.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I really rich.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I have good credit and thank god, my home is
paid for it. Where I just knew what to do.
I was taught how to be smart and make some investments.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Do you have any regrets about like, is there one
incident that you think I would have done that differently
on camera?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
How many do you have?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Well, what's the biggest one?

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Just thinking before I need to think before I speed.
I would say that, just thinking before I speak, because
it's really only about what you say.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I never hit anyone. I never had the physical altercation.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Were their physical altercation got?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yes? Who got? Because drug? Can you off the couch?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh my god, we have a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
We have a couple go to Google on and make
it seem.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Like okay, no, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
But that was the major one. When drug.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Charges, pregnant charges, I was so this ship out of
Bravo like that is.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
So they're friends now, so they all around.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, praise the Lord, and I guess for it in peace.
Would you would you go back?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Would I go back? If I go back, I want
to go back as a.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Friend, really, not a full time You don't want your peach.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I want the money. I want the money. But I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
I'm not big on a title. I'm just I'm not yeah,
And I don't know if that's because my upbringing. I'm
big on getting a job done and being the best
at my job and getting paid. I don't give it down,
which the title could be a janitor, as long as
I'm getting paid the money, that.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Money, I want what I need to I'm okay with it.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
And it's like when I leave there, I go home
to my real family, I go home to really matters,
because this isn't a job where where we were at
the last two years, it wasn't a job that I
was happy with.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
We were arguing, refussing. It was so below the belt,
so it was miserable. You would get off and I'd
be wanting to drink. I'm like, oh, why would coming down?

Speaker 4 (37:51):
I'm back always you know, or you're crying or you're
stressed out, and I don't want that feeling.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
But I was a friend.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I didn't really have to I was involved, but I
didn't have to go as hard. I could have just
left and say, y'all, I'm leaving for the day now, Okay,
I'm a friend. But if you're a house right there
in your house when you wake up and you're yourn
and and they're here, and they're there, so it's a
lot beer full.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Time, yeah, and they need very more money there.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
So you mentioned and forgive me if you talked, if
you told this story one hundred times, forgive me.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
But you mentioned going to jail. What happened? How did
that happen?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Young, dumb and stupid, hanging with their own crowd. I was.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I went to University of South Floord. I was a
graduate of University South Florida. I was hanging out with
a girl in the nightclub. We got in the fight,
had an altercation that was really bad. Thank god I
was in college because all my professors wrote letters. I
have the letters to this day.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Wow. And they came to court.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
For me and spoke on behalf. So I went to
county jail and they go to prison. But I did
six months county jail.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Six months, six months how old were you.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I was in college, so my twenties. How was that
twenty years ago? I don't know. I think I was
in this belief.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I went in there being a diva, so I was like,
I want this uniform.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I want this yeah, staying on it, and then I
knew people. The people there knew me and loved me
because they was like, what are you in for? Credit card?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Probably yeah, that's when in college that was the thing
they like, were you heah?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I'm like, no fighting, yeah, yeah, the deadly weapon. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
But the young lady I got in a fight with,
she had the extensive record, and it was just it
was really bad.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
I got released and I was supposed to be there
for a year, and the young lady came and spoke
on my behalf.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So that's how.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Really even that though, I just feel like that's a
testimony so many people can relate to and understand.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, it's different. I don't know if they can relate
to it. Don't ever relate to it.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Sadly, I think people can though, because when we young,
we make life is attracts and you don't even understand
the consequences of your decisions. I did so much dumb
stuff in college, it just felt like this ain't real.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I wore I have a T shirt that has let's
just sit. On the front of my T shirt.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
It has a picture of my mugshot and on the
back you see me today just clammed up, beautiful.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Oh, my nephew came downstairs. Were on Live when day
I was making breakfast. It's like, who is that?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm like, Lord, yeah, you don't ever have a BITCHU
like this.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
But they need to know those real story.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
And it's funny because them now going to school, the
environment I have them in now, I'm like, don't ever
forget where you come, where you came from. Don't ever
judge anyone because your aunt had a rocky road, buddy,
So don't be ashamed of it. Don't be ashamed of
your mom with substance abuse or her mental health issues. Yeah,
when people say I saw were one person here, one
of the students.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Like, well, why do you live with your aunt? And
let them know because my mom has mental ficials and
sistance abuse. And I said, you.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Don't have to go into details, but the own who
you are. That's a part of your story. Yeah, And
I feel like a lot of people are so ashamed
of their story. Yes, and I'm not ashamed of my story.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
That's what the evidence that you exude though, Like you,
you're not pretending to be anybody but yourself, and you're
telling us this is what happened.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Get over here and pretend to be Yeah, pretend to
know everything in politics or whatever. Yeah, you know, I
don't know what I'm learning. I'm watching the news and
I'm I'm adhd.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Most of the time.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
I'm turning it off because it drains me and it's
mental me too, stresses me.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
So I'm like, I don't want this right now.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, understandable.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
It's so important just to raise kids and for us
as adults to be who we truly are.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
And you are a superwoman.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Like these boys, where would they be without you? You know?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
No? And I'm mad, I ask them. Then I'm like,
where would you be as you right here?

Speaker 1 (41:37):
They're so lucky to have you in their life, your
whole story, your whole Like I said, I haven't seen
the show, but the real Marlowe who was in front
of me, is a goddamn superwoman of everything you serve,
your superwoman, Thank you, thank you, But we all are
and we have to like fix each.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Other and each other that And yes, I don't receive that.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Full of black friends, black women who I know love
me and support me.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Good because I'm hearing foster care, I'm hearing about your mother.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
I'm all of it.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I didn't grow up in foster care, but I had
addiction issues in my family. Like it's not your story
is not so foreign to many of us. And when
I hear that, and I think, whatever, if you were
the hostess at Fridays, I'm like, you are a superhero.
Like you have survived not only what you survived in
your family, but you have survived this four hundred year
nightmare that we as black women have had to navigate.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
And not even just to say, I sit and I
see some of the women who I do admire and
I look.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Up to, like, oh, she's so smart. Oh I would
love to spend a weekend with her, or just to
see where her life is like, or you know, just
to be with them in love. Yeah, And I'm like,
they wasn't even survive a day in my shoes. Yeah
it came from Yeah, they wouldn't even survive a day.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
But then you feel that you're better than me, and
I don't feel I'm better than you. Right, admire you, sis, right,
my sis as a VP of the company she works.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
One of my closest friends.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
And I'm like, wow, And guess what people tell us
there were like, oh, how does Marto and you connect?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
How do you guys? Because we connect because we're real people.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, because she really has set here in this chair
and got to know me and know my sorrows and
know my hurts and know what you know, my heart,
I'm such a giver.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I give you my last.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
So that's important, just to find people that really love you. Yeah,
it's okay for the ones who don't get you.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Screat exactly and I you know, look, we could talk
about the you know, I could.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I love you because how you look. I love all
of this, but you take all that, right.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I'm not going to know it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I can sense that from you here is beautiful and
just what you've overcome all of it. I just that
is the person that matters. And it's not the.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Degrees, the income, the bags. I don't really care.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I don't own no Chanel bag, like I tell y'all
right now, And if I'm spending that kind of money,
I want to put my money in the hands of
black designers, black business owners, all of that. So I
think a lot of that too. Is my challenge on
reality TV. We glorify white man's capitalism when we does.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
We have different kind of people, you know, we heard different.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
We have yeah for each other.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
But still when you do want by the Chanelle environs, okay,
because it turns faster than the stock.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
You approachase that five thousand dollars bag, You're gonna walk
out that swing's worth ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Get out of here, even though she can buy her
mez bag for thirteen thousand and it'll be worth thirty
thousand when you leave office.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
That's another thing.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
People are like, Oh, she's so materialistic, She's this sweetie.
I'm a hustle at all different.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Why does it appreciate?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
It does not. It's just it's sought out there. It's
limited and looking to her mess and Chanel.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, I live so in my neighborhood. I live like
two blocks from an hermez store, Okay, and.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I go in there, I tell there.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
And buy our mess telling Marlowe said, byrus because it'll
be worth you have passed down to your kids, kids, grandparents. Oh. Interesting,
it's worth more than st They won't even turn this fast.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
So I appreciate them because I go in there and
I tell them I can't afford anything in here. Oh
they's so like a little square scarf is like two thousand.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
It's so ridiculous. But what I love is they'll say, oh,
let us show you. Let us take you in this
and show you. They showed me all that.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
They're so kind to me, like they're always nice, like okay,
run along a little broke girl.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
But they let me see all the things.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
But that's an interesting I literally never knew that back
appreciated value. I had no idea you appreciate Wow. Okay,
what do you see as the future for reality?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Te people? What do you see it as? And what
would you like to see it?

Speaker 3 (45:33):
What do I says the future? I kind of see,
you know what I see.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
I see that a lot of women are going to
start doing content and filming their own stuff and showing
what their fans really want to see. I see a
lot on social media because people are attention span.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
It's just yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
I mean they go to social media for the news, Yes,
what's happening?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Go to Instagram, go to TikTok.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It's not appointment viewing any it's going to steal.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
But I do feel a lot of people are getting
away to what we're doing right now a podcasts.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
They're getting away to doing their own content and letting
people know who they really are.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, so that's what I said. Would you ever like
produce or executive?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I would produce. I would be on the stage. I
would be on the show.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I like to work, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
I don't like accing for anything, not like asking for anything.
One thing about Marlowe. I will work when you work
with me. Usc wow, should get a hand sturdy.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
But the image you all have a mess. I can't
afford her. Oh she's a diva. I am a diva twisted.
But I will work. Yeah, and I'm a diva at
my expense. Everyone on my team. If we go eat
today lobster and crab, you're going to eat lobstran crab
with me. I don't treat you no different. I don't
see you as the help my grandmother is like the
janitor is.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Just as equal. As you. Yeah, it's just as equal
as the CEO. And you never know you could win
the lottery tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, you don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
You just got to treat people right, treat people well,
I'm gonna feed you.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I'm gonna treat you right. Mike Glham loves me. Love
my glam Yeah. I love my Glamb team.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
I love my production team, I love my management team.
I love any of my assistants and I want them
to be real with me. I just told the girls today,
I'm like, hey, if it's something i'm saying that, you
don't help me.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, this just because I'm nosy. What happened with the billionaire?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
He's dead and gone? Head? Can you pass away?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I'm so sorry while y'all were dating. No, okay, yeah bro,
but still just so sorry for like, what's he black?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I know he is not Ted Turner. I finally everyone
thought it was Ted Turner. I'm like, lord, all these years.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
That is okay, So he was not black? Yeah when
you say that, I was like, thumbtag, I got it.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
He watched me for you, but he watched me for
almost a year.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh wow? Yeah, yeah, are you dating anyone.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Now, I'm not you have someone you want to hook
me up with, a lot.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Of man would love to be with you. Let me
go through my head.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I always get the wrong ones. Really, I'm too strong
for a black men, and I love a black man.
He's a two black men, so that's yeah. But I'm
I I.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Bet there are sons of black men out there who
are strong enough for you.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Well I haven't bumped into them, and they haven't bumped
into me. Yeah, well I do meet them to oh,
you this, and you want to buy this and you this?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Okay, go ahead on.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, let me be me.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I want to be me. Yeah, I want to be me.
I'm gonna work. I'm going to take care of me regardless.
I take care of me now. And two boys with
no man.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, So if I'm going to bring a man over here,
I do need you not to be a bomb and
not be a group. You're a fan to think you're coming.
I'm going to take care of you because I'm not
taking care of no man.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Yeah, I'm neither have to build a relationship or something
with you and know that you harmed yourself or you
got unemployed. And but nowadays the men coming over on
the women to take care of them.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Certain kind of the boys are looking for that men
maybe not? Okay, maybe, So last question for you, if
you could go back and talk to I'm just picking
this moment because you talked about it. But maybe it's
a younger version. But that young girl all who you know,
got into a fight and had to spend some time

(49:04):
and you're just coming out and like the rest of
your life is ahead of you.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
What would you say to that young girl?

Speaker 4 (49:08):
What would I say to that young girl? Black then
before it happened, you're saying right without no, you're.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Just coming out and trying to come out here. Yeah,
and it's like you can your life go this way?
This waitest way, this way?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
What would you say?

Speaker 4 (49:20):
I would say to her what my grandmother has said
to me. My grandmother, Ari Holmes is my fifth foster home,
and she said to me, look, we ain't making no
more excuses. Your mama did this, your daddy did this.
Now what the hell are you going to do?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
She said, Because I'm not going back to the jail,
I'm not answering another call, and I'm not sending the
canteen or you know money or your books. And I
went right to the judge and say, can I move
to Atlanta? And that's why I'm here too. What yah?
I love that.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Praise God for a priying grandmama.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yes, your blood or not. Like black women, Mother Earth incarnates.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I'm gonna tell you I'm worth there still last question
Homes from Saint Petersburg, Florida.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Mildred Mildred Green from.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Saint Petersburg, Florida was my godmother and both of them
went to heaven, both of world quarriers. Wow, I tell
you I love them. They love me and no one
else gets me like them, And I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I realized I'm at the point of my life where
I'm okay with no one else give me. But those
two got men always they were strong black women.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
My grandmother passed at one hundred and three, so she's
seen some things like I could have took that.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
White man home. My grandma, Yeah, sorry, she just she
can be prejudiced. Hundred three, she was a slave.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
She's a white man and white you know this, it's
just being real. But I feel this day and age,
I can't relate.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I can.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
I know the story and I know the history. But
I feel it's so much opportunities out there and we
just got to get to know people and love people
and stop back and like we lived in those dates, right, But.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Her Mildred and Ari Holmes, I don't know where I'd
be without them.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Well, I'm grateful from them, and my stubborn is from them.
It is what it is, and my heart working from
them because they were baby.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, praise God for black women. They have been our
saviors so many We've saved this country, but they've been
our personal saviors so many times.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
So thankful, thankful to them. Thank Yes, what do you do?
I want I'm rooting for you, Marlowe. I want you
to win. So what do you what are you doing now?
How can people support you doing that?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
So what we didn't talk about, well you did mention archive. Yes,
So for anyone in entertainment, if you get style for
a red car, you're like, girl, I want to wear
Chanelle for the Chanel bag. Next time you go on
the red cap.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Let you just carry one, save you because a lot
of time one time to.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Bring it back. But the thing is, that's what a
lot of people don't know either.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
It's like on those car, I don't own those clothes,
like these are girl holes that I'm returning.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
A lot of people don't, a lot of ceviews don't. Yeah,
so I definitely have.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
To take you up for that.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Archives who you are IOUs? I know, but no, I
mean it.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
So you come over there and get your chanel, get
whatever you want to wear, and it's on me. And
just like fabulists, but I really wanted targeted main towards
people in the entertainment.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Industry, like TV shows.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
I just was a couple of things from the archive
was shown on what is the show?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Lord? Lord? I can I think of the show Family Up?
Their family up there on? Was it?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Was?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
It on?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
But just Nicole Kitman was on it in the closet
scene when you see that scene.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
A lot of things they rented from the archive. I
love it on the chanel, the DOJ glasses so well,
will will backer ye will help you want to bother you?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
But yeah, I would be a janitor race what you've seen. Okay,
you don't will Yes, we have archive and also.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Anything definitely will or anyone who has set once from
the show that's a no brain that's like family and
also glaming Up is near me. We didn't talk about
my nonprofit.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, so what's the point do you need to blam
it up?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Any support that when I do an event, any money
to help make sure these girls continue to have great Christmases,
great back to schools. Whenever they call me, they're like, hey,
I need back to school clothes last week or money.
I don't like taking anything use for them.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Okay. I hate to say it, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That's okay.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I like use items me and my family will. I
grew up in foster care, so I'm not giving them
anything used. I'm not giving them a bag. I need
suitcases for them. When I grew up in foster care,
I went place to place with a garbage bag.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
So I don't want that. So that's something. This Christmas website.
I'll give you the website clamb it up.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Or if you just go on my Instagram to Marlow
Hampton you click on that, everything's there, glamed up is
there and the archive is there.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Okay, so brand new items.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Brand new items. The main thing. I want to give
them all suitcases this year.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Lug it because you're always changing place to place, shuring
out to different luggage companies. Tax them for suitcases, because
that's just think about it. You're getting all these US
clothing toys. You have a garbage bag, you're going home
to home.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
My Christmas is I make sure the boys don't have
a Christmas, to make sure my glamor up girls have
an amazing Christmas.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And are they all in Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
They are major, They're not that far from Atlanta, but
ody are at Land.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
And how many girls do you have?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Usually it's like twenty twenty five girls like you just did.
When you have to look it up, you're gonna love it.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Bloomingdale's okay, and me thought a manager from Bloomingdale's she
had no ideal like I do this.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
You had a nonprofit. She was in tears as well.
My girls had an amazing dinner lunch on Bloomingdale's floor.
I love it. They shot Bloomingdale's. They're like, oh my god,
I never in my life even been in a store
like this. We can go upstairs, you can come down,
so just to see these girls be so excited. Yeah,
and Bloomingdale's they gave one of the girls a stroller.

(54:47):
It went from them having Bloomingdale Bloomingdale's bucks. So whatever
they picked out they left out of Bloomingdale's.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
They deserved that. They really did. Black girls deserve it.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
When you see me, you just see these kids are
so appreciative and they've never experienced It's like, Wow, we
could be so freaking ungrateful.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
And that's why I tell my nephews, no, be grateful. Yeah,
there are the kids who would love to be where
you are.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, and I also want to thank Nieman's Beindy so
many more.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
But when I tell you, they go in from my
glamor of girls, my nonprofit, and they just make these
girls smile. And I love it because they go above
and beyond.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I love that. I love that.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Well, I you didn't mention it, but your team told
me you have a podcast.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I'm out.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I know. I'm executive producing on it.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
This is nice.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
I'm super excited about it. But I'm the type I
like to wait until it happen. Okay, I mean it
has happened.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
We've signed the.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Paperwork, but it's in the making and we should see
it any day now.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
So stay tuned, stay tuned, follow up any day now.
You'll be singing it out. Okay, You're gonna love it.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I imagine I'll have you. I would love to please invite me.
I would love to show up. It's been such a
delight getting to know you, Marlowe. I really appreciate you
taking the time.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Come on our little pod podcast. Stop. We got to
stop our big fabulous pot.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yes, yes, I'm so thrilled to have gotten to know
you here.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
And I know all y'all talking about me because I
don't watch reality TV, but all y'all watch it.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Y'all can tell me what happens.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
But my only advice I would say to people is, however,
whatever perception that you had of Marlowe, I hope that
you got a more realistic perception here.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
And I hope for anyone who.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Thinks that that you're not their brand, or anyone who's
like looks down on you.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yes, because yes, yes, like we we we all we
got so we gotta love each other. We don't have time.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I think classism is rooted in white supremacy, and we'll
have time to look at each other in a negative light.
So I would encourage other people to have conversations with
people outside of our norm right, Yes, we gotta do
a way with exactly exactly. And you've been a wonderful
example of that today. I knew I was gonna love you,

(56:56):
and I do already. So thanks for joining us and
we'll do photos after with dumba post on my Instagram.
So thank you and thank you guys for tuning in.
We'll be back next week with a whole new episode
of Across Generations. I'm Tiffany Cross. Across Generations is brought
to you by wolf Packer and Wolfpacker Media in partnership
with iHeart Podcast I'm Your host and executive producer Tiffany D.

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