February 27, 2025 • 46 mins
With Hollywood’s biggest night almost here, Amy, T.J. and their team watched all of the Best Picture nominees for this year’s Oscars, so you don’t have to!
Hear their takes on each of the films, and whether or not they would recommend you watch them too! From the box office hits to the indie sensations, they are covering it all! Listen in for behind the scenes insights and top predictions you need to know before the show!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, they're focused in this episode. We watch them so
you don't have to. Welcome to part two of our
Best Picture of preview here on Naming and PJ. We
have watched all of these Haska movies, so you don't
have to do so. Because Robes, these are long movies,
very really long movies.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is a commitment of time and energy that I
don't think either one of us would have put into
it had it not been a self imposed work assignment.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
The single one of the ten Best Picture nominees are
under two hours. The shortest one is Conclave, which is
exactly two hours. Is this just where we are now?
Movies are just going to be longer?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't know. Because it's funny. You and I typically, well,
we do like our horror genre, and it just so
happens that most horror movies are about an hour and
thirty minutes. So we have just kind of gotten used
to that ninety minute thing, and I just feel like
that's so doable. Two hours. You're pushing it two and
a half hours. That's tough. Three hours plus, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, this is art, though, this is art. Rose look
full disclosure, everybody, we have not seen a single one
of the ten nominated films in the theater, but we
have seen just about all of them. If we haven't seen,
we have other folks in the room here with us.
We have our super producers, Andy, Emma and Sidney. If
you've listened to the podcast at all, you've heard their name.
So they joined us on this assignment of watching all
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of these movies so we could give you a review
so you don't have to. We are going to do
today Conclave, Doom two, I'm Still Here, The Substance, and Wicked.
We will start with Conclave, nominated for eight Oscars Best Picture,
Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Original Score, Adapted Screenplay among them,
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starring Ralph Fines, Stanley Tucci, John Lithgow, and Isabella Rosalini.
Directed by Edward Berger, this is based on a twenty
sixteen novel story that follows a cardinal task with running
the conclave to elect the next pope, and then secret
slies conspiracies are revealed that threatened the future of the church.
This one did well at the box office ninety eight
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point five million dollars. If you'd like to watch it,
it is available on Peacock and it's also available on
video on demand if you want to rent or buy it.
Runtime two hours, the shortest of the ten nominees, has
a ninety three percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and it
has picked up a very big award in the season,
the Best Film Award at the Baptist also Best Screenplay
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at the Golden Globes Robes Conclave. Your first impression riveting
and Lightning and Lightning from Sydney. Emma didn't watch? Sorry,
Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I knew that. It's at the
top of my notes. I know that, Emma.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Sorry, I'm gonna admit I failed you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I keep putting her in a position to say she failed.
She could never work for Elon Muss. What was Sure's handy?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I would say, modern classic, A.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Modern classic, I would My first impression was wow to
the ensemble cast. There is this crew of actors, is
the top of their game? That was my first impression.
Now we ropes have been covering for the past I
think several days a week plus. Now, what's happening with
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the Pope? Him being in the hospital, his illness, the
timing just as wild?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah? Is this art imitating life? Or is this life
imitating art? I don't know which it is, but certainly
I would imagine this has drawn a lot more folks
to watching this film because we're seeing potentially a conclave
playing out in front of us, or at least could
be happening in the next couple of weeks with Pope
Francis's deteriorating conditions. So you know, maybe perhaps a lot
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of new new members of viewing audience have never witnessed
or seen a conclave happen. We've reported on them over
the years. I was raised Catholic myself, so I found
this film to be fascinating about the politicking that goes
on behind the scenes, and it I just think it's
I mean, the filmmakers could never have known how timely
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it would be, but my goodness, it's worth a watch
given what's going on.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Uh Sydney Andy. I was struck by how much and
I guess we should know this, but I was struck
how much they nailed something that we find as sacred
as right church Catholics and these men who are at
the top, how just down and dirty. Yeah, and it's
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just nothing but politics. These are nothing but politics. That
kind of was jarring to me to a certain degree.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think like that's why I was enlightening to me,
just kind of that like inside look inside the Roman
Catholic Church. I didn't know anything about Conclave, anything about
it going into this movie, and just like seeing all
of those like little minute details like kept me entertained
the whole time.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was just like a bun. It was.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
It's like if you look at it all around, it's
like almost slow. But it was like all those little
petty things that they were doing. I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
This is crazy to see.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I don't know these leaders that you hold to such
a standard doing that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It felt like watching Catholic Survivor, where like I didn't
know what was going on, like the politicking involved the
alliances that are formed trying to get people's votes. I
found that to be so fascinating. I loved like the
humor in it. I like because there were very funny parts,
Like I feel like the ending Ralph Find's character. I
won't give it away, but like he just at that point,
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he just has a look on his face that I
just started laughing because I'm like, I feel so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
For this man. He's been put through the ringer.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, and Ralph finds as an actor can say so
much just with his face, yeah, without even using his
own words. But I think for me, it's a reminder
when you watch this film that cardinals, popes are men. Men,
They're humans, and there is still there are, there will
always be elements of greed and power and corruption, no
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matter what organization you're looking into or inside, whether it's
you know, even a church, still has those same elements.
Because these are men, they are not anything extraordinary in
terms of just their humanness was on full display. It
was a pretty cool potential look into what may be
going on actually right now.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was just so well acted these guys. Ray Fines
is just I don't think he's picked up any major
awards in this award season, but he is just He
carries the movie and I forgot about I think I
can remember which one of you said it, but there's
a scene at the end where it just all comes
out of him. Yeah, and you see it and like, god,
this poor guy. I also have.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Isabella Roslini too. She was amazing too. She had like
one scene that was it, but she nailed that scene
so well.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The cafeteria, right y, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I didn't recognize her at first it took me a
second say, wait, is that Isabella Rosselini?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And sure enough, and she was so good I thought, oh,
John Lithgow, Stanley Tucci. I just think it was such
a good cast. And these are men who you see
usually do very different characters, so it was cool to
see them all together in this setting.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And there is a twist twist at the end.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There's a big twist.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You will don't. I don't care who you are, you
will not guess it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
No, damn yeah, if you read about it, if you're
going in, you will never guess it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You will not guess it. So if you had to
recommend it, Andy, would you recommend it to a friend?
And what?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Absolutely? I think it is just again a modern classic.
I think you can go back and rewatch this. The
rewatchability is like through the roof. You can show it
to friends who you don't have to invest or feel like,
I don't know, the Brutalist. You just watch it and
you just started just like, oh that was heavy. This
one you can kind of just watch and it ends
and you're like, I really like that. And now it's
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nominated for Best Picture. So wow, it's easy for me
to died, So I.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Would one hundred percent recommend it. I think it's it's
just such an interesting watch. Like I think, no matter
who you are anything like, you'll be invested in this,
in this story and who comes out on top. And
I just think, yeah, I would definitely recommend it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We're recommending to you, Emma that you should watch it
in your free time. No, it's it's a it's a
great thriller. I think that's you know, it's just you're
you're waiting, and I don't think it disappoints the ending.
Whether you like it or not, it still was thrilling
at the end. So I would absolutely recommend this to anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's thrilling, that is, and it's so well acted. I
respect every in. Some of the names of the guy
when you see their faces, you're like, oh that guy
was the is just so good. So yes, absolutely recommend this.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
All Right, Okay, we'll move on now to Dune two,
nominated for five Oscars. Uh TJ, you're already giving away
how you feel about the movie. All right, five Oscars
Best Picture, Sound, Visual Effects, Production, Design, and Cinematography. It
stars oh a name we've heard before. Timothy Shallimey Zendeia,
Rebecca Ferguson, Josh Broland, Austin Butler, Florence Pew, Christopher walk In,
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Javier Bardem, Dave Bautista. It's it's really a who's who
in the acting world. Every time a new scene was coming,
I was like, wait, what, they're in it too. That's
how I felt when I was watching it. It's all
based on a nineteen sixty five novel by Frank Herbert
and the sequel to twenty twenty one's Dune Part one,
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So Dune Part two picks up where Dune Part one
left off. It follows Paul, who is a messiah like
figure who rallies a group of desert indigenous desert people
waging a war for the universe and seeking revenge on
those who destroyed his family. This was a box office juggernaut.
Seven hundred and fourteen point six million dollars. That's how
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much it grossed at the box office. The runtime is
a little daunting two hours and forty six minutes. It
definitely took us quite a while to watch this one.
Rotten Tomato score ninety two and so far. Best Picture
nominations BAFTA and Critics' Choice Awards Golden Globes as well.
So it's gotten a lot of nominations, and we'll go
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around and find out what you all thought about it.
First impressions, Andy, epic.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Great cast, stunning.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was not a fan amazing Okay, wow, not a
fan amazing wow. We were sitting next to each other
watching this, not a fan, an amazing movie. I get
what you're saying. You know what, We're gonna say the
same thing here. Imagine, folks, if today someone came to
you and said, go watch this Star Wars sequel to
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the original Star Wars, so you would go have to
watch episode five, The Empire Strikes Back, which is the
sequel to the original Star Wars. See how confusing that is.
What I'm saying is if you try to just jump
into Doom Part two, it is such an epic story
that you did. There's so much catching up to do
and the nuance and the understanding that it makes it
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difficult to watch if you're new to the story. I
say wow, and this thing was amazing is because it
is movie making on the grandest, most epic, biggest, most
beautiful scale that you look at and go wow. But
it was tough to follow if you're new to the game.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Correct, So the nominations actually mirror exactly what you're saying.
What this film is nominated for. I fully support sound,
visual effects, production design, cinematography. All of that absolutely makes sense. Look,
I'm someone who is a fan of sci fi and
I love all the Star Wars, we love Game of Thrones.
I like complicated, complex storytelling. However, unfortunately, maybe I because
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I tried to watch Dune Part one on a plane
and fell asleep. I already came into it thinking like,
how am I gonna catch up? And then I found
myself actually having to google the story while I was
watching it to make sense of it. And so I
maybe this is just my own ego, but I felt
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dumb watching it. I was having a hard time following
it and what they were saying. There's a lot of
language that doesn't exist, It's like ancient language. So I
just I felt mired in all of the complexities of
the story that I didn't fully grasp, and so that
is the only reason why it was just it took
too much effort for me to follow along.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Okay, Doom, we didn't see Doom one. I fell asleep
on a plane as well on Doing One. Not earlier
it happened. But did everybody over there see Doing One?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You did not, Okay, so you told us. Actually, Andy,
you say, hey, you'll be fine watching this movie if
you haven't seen Doing One. But you love this one.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I personally, I know I can't be given away how
I feel like until the end. But this is my
favorite movie of the year. I think it's epic. I
think it's amazing. I love the story, I love the music.
I think everything about it just works for me. I loved,
loved it. I think it just I don't know, it
just comes together perfectly. I saw it three times in
the theater. What way I know.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm sorry you saw it three times in the theater.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
With different people because it kept being like I need
to see this again. And on IMAX, let me tell
you something. That worm scene where he's on the worm
and ride in the worm. I was feeling things and
this man is writing a worm and I'm getting like,
damn you go.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Were the worms like adversaries or were they.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They are bad?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But yes, they contained the worm?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, it was part of my computer.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I really wish I got to see that in Imax
or whatever it is that I think would have changed
everything for me, because I already thought it was so
stunning just watching it on my TV.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, and I saw it and Imax that one, and
then they did like a special limited run with like
Imax seventy millimeters or something, which is like old. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I in theater three times to see a two hour
and forty six minute film.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
To me, the same way that you said the brutalist
friends told you that that like the three and a
half hour runtime didn't feel like that to me. Every
time I watch it, I'm just blown away the whole time,
where I don't even notice the runtime.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You spent eight hours and fifteen minutes of your life,
and I'll do it again, DJ happily in the theater,
Emma help us here.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Well, I didn't see doing part one, and so that
I think, agreeing with Amy, that kind of threw me
off because I also like sci fi, but I have
to know what's going on, and I should have seen
it before, even though I heard from many people, you
don't have to see the first one to understand it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So you talked to Andy too.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
He told you that everyone said you didn't have to
see the first and so I wish I would have
because I am a huge Star Wars fan as well.
But I think it's important to be able to have
the knowledge to follow correctly.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's a big story. Yeah, it's such a big story.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I love this story. I just that's like my type
of narrative, Like that's the movie I want to see.
And I think it's just it's so hard to pull
off sometimes and I think for it being a sequel,
they're just able to do it so well in my opinion, and.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
People should know they're is star after star after star
after star that keeps showing up in this movie. It's
not real.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I was so shocked.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
And there's like one random shot of like Anya Taylor Joy.
I was like, wait what.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I was so confused.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Oh yeah, well she had a few lines.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, but I was just like for her for such
a big star too.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
So she'll be in the next one for sure, because
that's the sister.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Rebecca Ferguson Bardam, you have Shala, may have Zendaia, we
have Josh Brolin. This movie was jam. Yes, Christopher Walken.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
It's yes, Austin Butler.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I had to start that I did have fun actually
just seeing the who's who in the cast, and I
appreciated all of the art that was involved in it.
I just the movie made me feel dumb.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, no, no, it's a complex story and okay, we
get put notes together for this podcast. This is the
one note on the synopsis of Doom Too that took
me the longest. I read and read and read, and
I couldn't just summarize what this movie was about. It
is big, it's complex, and at the end of this one,
I don't is he a good guy or bad guy?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
That's the thing. It's like he started in Uprising and
you don't know, like is he too far gone into
it and he's not like he he kind of forgot
who he was in the midst of all of it.
And I found that to me like amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Ki. Yeah, it was kind of Khalisi and we love
Game of Throne, so like we're into all of that storytelling.
But it was one of those questions where yes, he
was propped up as a messiah like figure, but I
don't know who's bad, who's good, who's right, who's wrong.
And I know that's part of the excitement of the movie,
but it also was frustrating me. I wanted to know
who to root for.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But it's gorgeous, though. If you had to friend comes
up to you, Hey, Sidney, should I see Done too?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You would say what, yes, even alone, just for the
cast and for how attractive Timothy Shallimey looks in that movie.
Aside from the visual aspects of Dune and whatnot, I.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Was just like, Yeah, his hair is so well conditioned
to be in the desert. He has some great product. Emma,
would you recommend this to a friend?
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I would recommend it to a certain friend, and I
would say, if they are invested in the story, to
watch both movies.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean I saw it three times already, so absolutely
y yeah to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Ask, yeah, I don't think I would recommend it to
anyone that I know.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I just don't, you know, that's a good point. I
don't know if I would. I respect it. I think
it's gorgeous. It's just not my lane, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I actually don't think it needs a recommendation because the
fans are the fans, and they're built in and they're huge,
and I don't need to convince anybody to see something.
If you didn't choose to go see it. I don't
know that you would want to go see it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I had never read the books, so for me, the
movies are what kind of made me a fan. Okay,
And I don't think I can read the book because
it is too big, and I have tried after watching
the movies. But yeah, no, no, the movies got me in.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh yeah, he'll go to the theater three times. No,
I'm not going to read that big book.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Ages and imagine all those characters but written out, I.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can't keep that. That's okay, good point, That's tough. All right.
Next one, We're going to get through quickly, and I'll
explain why here in a second. Next one, I'm still here.
Nominated for three Oscars Best Picture, Best Actress, and Best
International Feature Film. Fernanda Torres starring in This One. Directed
by Walter Salez, this is a foreign film about a
woman who tries to hold her family together after her
husband's disappearance at the hands of Brazil's a brutal dictatorship.
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This made twenty seven point three million dollars at the
box office worldwide. It is still in limited theatrical release
if you want to try to find it. Runtime of
two hours fifteen minutes. I believe this is the highest
Rotten Tomato score of all the films, ninety seven percent
Rotten Tomato score. It has gotten all the big major nominations,
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but no major wins. However, Fernanda Torres did receive the
Best Actress at the Golden Globes. We have to say here,
nobody was able to see this one. We can't find
it anywhere streaming, there's nowhere online, and it's limited release.
It's hard to find in a theater if you want
to check it out. But the word on it, I
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guess who I know? Andy, You're one that's very much
in the movies and know what's going on. But who
can speak on this for what have you heard about it?
And has it been recommended to anybody in this room.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I heard that she's really good in it, and so
I do want to see it for that reason. It's
just so hard to find anywhere because it's an international release,
so those things usually take like months and months to
get on video on demand. But I do want to
see it, so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Folks or take that need to remember that about the movie. Yes,
it is difficult to find right now. I cool detail though, Andy,
we were just talking about this. Fernanda Torres is nominated
for Best Actress and a very cool story here only two, right, Andy,
I'll let you speak to it. Only two Brazilian women
have ever been nominated in this category.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's Fernanda and her mom. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, that makes me want to watch the movie just
because of that cool, fun fact. And I think when
it is available to stream this I even like the
premise of it. This is a movie that I would see,
so I actually am looking forward to it. And it's
you know, I know everyone has their favorites for Best Actress,
but it'd be really cool that stories somehow she did
manage to pull out a win, and some people say
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that that could happen. Something to look for. All right,
we'll move on. I'm laughing, but you'll soon find out why.
For our next movie, The Substance five Oscars Best Picture,
Best Actress, Best Director, Makeup and Hairstyling, and Original Screenplay.
It stars Demi Moore, mar Great Quality and Dennis Quaid.
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Directed by Coraley. I don't want to say her name wrong,
Coraley far yet, does anyone know how to fier Jay? See?
I knew I was going to destroy that. This the
premise of this movie is super cool, and this is
what drew me into it and made me want to
see it from the beginning. It's an aged out celebrity
decides to take a mystery drug with the promise of
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a younger, better version of herself. Well, things go wild,
to say the least, and it gets It goes from
being wild to crazy to perhaps even surreal. At the end.
Box office gross on this movie seventy seven million. You
can watch it if you want to pay for it
video on demand now where you stream your shows. Two
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hours and twenty minutes is the runtime. Rotten Tomatoes score
was eighty nine percent. This one has several picture nominations
Best Picture nominations. Tom Moore already won the Golden Globe
for Best Actress. She certainly is. She's that acceptance speech
she gave at the Gold Globes. Some people have said
that was probably an acceptance speech that got a lot
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of miles to it because she talked about being called
a popcorn actress early on in her career, and now
she's been legitimized with this role. So a lot of
folks are this is the big thing. Whether Demi Moore
will win Best Actress or not at the Oscars this weekend,
So we'll go around and get everyone's take on their
first impressions of this movie. Andy, how about you?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Amazing?
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I loved it, amazing, but very nauseous.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'm so glad I saw it.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I really enjoyed it and thought it was incredibly unique
and entertaining.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What the actual fuck.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Was my first impress You actually had a very visceral
emotional reaction to the movie, especially in the last part
of it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'm trying to and I get the first I was
hooked the premise, the idea Demi Moore that, oh, this
movie started out with a very original it was a
cool story. It just it went into an area in
the end. What this was for me, it was an
unpleasant viewing experience. I found myself actually uncomfortable or squirming
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or not wanting to look at the television. I found
myself finding the story or the events so absurd at
times that it then for me lost that great message
and story at the beginning. That's what it was for me,
And it is the exact opposite I know for a
lot of folks.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, no, and you are a big horror movie fan.
But you made a very big point to say, Robes,
I like horror movies, but I do not like body horror,
and that is exactly what this movie was for me.
It got a little hard to watch, funny enough, with
the audio up whoever did the sound that went along
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with the movie, it made what you were seeing even
more grotesque when you heard what you were seeing. Does
that make sense?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I also never thought that I was like squeamish of needles,
and then the amount of close ups of needles and like,
I just I was like, I guess the new fear
has been unlocked because I did not know that I
was that creeped out by it.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
I already had a developed fear of needles and up
close shots of blood and stitches, so I was well
prepared and I was okay during those scenes. Except it
was so well done with the prosthetics and the angles
to make you feel so disgusted that I completely appreciated
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the fact that I felt that way, but I could
not sit like I was actually like Gagnant, I.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Was so disturbed by a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I almost feel like the movie could have like ended
thirty minutes early, like it was so much with like
that whole end part where I was like, like it
like lost me on the original point of the movie
that I was so invested in and that I was like,
I'm so glad that they're like bringing attention to this
and like the pressure of women to like look a
specific way for so long forever.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I also thought it was.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Just like so interesting, like how physically disgusted I was
by Dennis Kuwait's character. I was literally repulsed when he
was eating that like lobster. I was like, or the
shrimp or whatever. Yeah, I was like, this is more
disgusting than the needles. And some of the body shots
to me is like the close up on your face,
Like I literally could not watch it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I was shocked he never got a Best Supporting Actor. No,
I feel like he shouldn't have been nominated.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Or market quality. I feel like she got no love.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I feel like she.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Was so good.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
She was she was excellent. So that was shocking to
me because I think both of them deserved They were
a huge part of making me like that movie.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, this Quaid's character did exactly what you He was
a filthy discuss. You just hated him, hated him, but
he played his role, so I wash, he nothing. I
haven't seen him anywhere good nominated for.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Em like mentioned it. I don't think it's fair.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't know how that stuff works. But he was
a very integral part of that movie being disgusting.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Agreed, And I completely think he got robbed on that one,
as so did Margaret. I completely agree with all of that. Yes,
you know it's funny, Sidney. You pointed this out, and
I know TJ believes this too. But it got to
the point where I loved some of the shocking parts
of the movie, even the gross parts of the movie,
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but at the end it just got silly, and I
like funny. I like, I'll take gross, I'll take shocking.
I don't really like silly, and it felt like it
got silly at the end. She's like, it's still me
like crying out of some body part that I don't
want to laugh like in that way at a horror movie.
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I love horror comedy, but when it's unintended humor, that
for me is where it slightly missed the mark.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But look, everybody's a lot of folks said this was
This movie got standing ovations in places. This is a
movie that people looked at and the shock of it
was supposed to be the draw of it, and the
beauty of it, to a certain degree was what they
were doing. It was just entirely too much for me.
So with that, I'll start with me when we go
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around and ask would you recommend this to her friend?
And why? Uh huh? Why would I not? Because I
want you to keep your food down after dinner.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I say that somewhat jokingly. It's just it was a hard,
hard watch. But to me more who she was incredible
in that.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Movie, so good the scene where she was like wiping
off her makeup that I would watch that scene, just
that scene again. I was just like, that was so
Also I saw us on TikTok Ray Liota was suposed
to play Dennis Quade's character and then he passed away.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh wow, okay, I could have seen that. That actually
made oh yeah, playing the Dennis Wade character. So I
totally can see that. That makes sense to me, I
just like too much.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I also saw this on TikTok that they made Margaret
Qualley or like had her where like some sort of
like fake boobs or something like that, which I just
thought was so interesting. Because she's like the perfect, you
know what I mean, Like she's supposed to be like
the perfect. It's like so interesting that even like what
everyone was like aspiring to look like, even that on
the behind the scenes, it's like, wasn't wasn't they still
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had to like do something irony.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, the irony exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I think that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We do have it tough, Yeah, we do, Sidney, would
you recommend it?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I honestly like, I feel like everyone says should see
this movie, Emma.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I think I love the underlining meaning behind it because
I feel like something like that is so in our future,
and so I.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Love the plot and I love the way I felt
during the movie, even though I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Want to feel that way.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
But I would totally recommend it.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Andy, one hundred percent. And just another little behind the
scenes thing. I work on a podcast and they interviewed
the producer of this movie and she said the original
cut that she flew out to Paris to watch with
Coraley was four and a half hours, and the last
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scene where it just goes off the rails was thirty
minutes longer. Oh, every single thing in that script was filmed,
and she just made a four and a half hour cut,
So there does exist a four and a half hour
cut at this movie.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I can't wait till that's released on streaming.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
For sure, we'll watch it together.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And I would absolutely recommend it as well, because yes,
I just I liked it. I just liked it from
a storytelling standpoint, but I think the women in this
room also know, and being the oldest woman and person
in this room, I related to it on another level
as well. You know, you start to see your peers,
people who might just be a little bit older than you,
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doing drastic things to try and look younger, and and
I always you know, I I've asked people to check me.
You know, I don't ever you want to look the
best you can, but you also don't want to be
desperate to look like something you can't ever fully attain.
And so I think the message in the movie I
definitely spoke to me.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, but it was like never enough to exactly that,
and that I feel like it's just so like with
ozembic plastic surgery fillers everything, it's like you're never going
to reach that perfect and people keep going like and
just as a woman, that movie just really absolutely and.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Some people do go to the point where I don't
want to say they look grotesque, but it's it's it's
not a better version of what they would have had
had they just left.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well enough, they certainly drove that home home that point, didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Can we just talk about it, okay.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I also think it's cool though, that horror got its moment,
because horror never gets its moment. At the Academy Awards,
it he was.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
We had this argument because he was like, that wasn't horror,
that was a horror movie.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Yet I actually have a point.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, Emma, you're not. We're gonna we're gonna be on
the same page. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
So actually I discussed this with my roommate Abby. We
broke it down into three parts, the first part being horror,
the second part being a thriller, in the third part
being a comedy.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh, I could get behind that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You tell me the end was supposed to be comedic.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well it was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, okay, it is supposed to be a dark comedy
at the end, like you're supposed to laugh at it.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I think Emma's earlier point about you you're going with
an expectation. I thought this was this, and that was this.
I think I didn't know it was a horror movie.
If I had known that, I think I might have
received it differently. I did not. This was a straight
up there was a monster in this movie. Yeah, I
didn't know that was happening. Yeah, I didn't know that
was happening. All right, last, let's then not a happy note,
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shall we? Well kind of I had issues with this
one at the end. All right, folks, Wicked, Wicked. Here
it is ten Oscars, and it's important to tell you
which ones they're nominated for Best Picture, Best Actress, Best
Supporting Actress, Visual Effects, sound Editing, original score, makeup, hair styling,
costume design, and production design. Of course, this star is
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Cynthia Orrivo, Ariana Grande, Jonathan Bailey, but you also got
Peter Dinklegen. Here, you got Jeff Goldblum, you got Michelle Yo.
Directed by John M. Chew. This was adapted, of course,
from the hit musical. It traces the origins of the
friendship and falling out between Alphaba and Glinda, the two
characters we came to know as the Wicked Witch of
the West and Glinda, the good Witch. This one seven
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hundred and twenty eight million dollars at the box office.
It is available to rent or buy on demand right now.
It'll be on Peacock on March twenty first, that has
been announced. Runtime two hours, forty minutes. Rotten Tomato score
eighty eight percent. It has been nominated for several awards,
but it's been getting beat out in all the major
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ones because of it's got stiff competition, of course, but
it did pick up the Cinematic and Box Office Achievement
Award at the Golden Globes. Andy first impression of Wicked.
I liked it.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Chills this delivered for me.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Cynthia Rivo is my hero, I think. Is my first
impression of this movie. I've seen everybody here seeing her
on stage seen Wicked? Yes, No, you haven't seen it
on stage?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Did anybody here did? I don't know if you did, Robes,
maybe you're the only one I should ask is did
you see the Chennaw? Did you ever see her on stage?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So I did. I actually saw it when it first
came out with Christian Chenawi as Glinda or Glinda. Yes,
and that was mind blowing to me. And then I
saw it a second time after they had already come
and gone. So I've seen it twice and I thought
this movie was incredible. I love the nod that they
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gave to the originals and that.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
But yeah, no, they're in there. Yeah, everybody knows that
it was.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It was I thought, just with what they can do,
uh with movies, and it just it brought it to
an even more colorful, beautiful life than the stage even
was able to know.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You said this, you said they create the worlds they
were able to create.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oh my god, the final scene defying gravity, I mean,
I had chills from head to toe. I wanted to
run to go see the second installment. In that moment,
I was ready for another two hours and forty minutes. Wow,
that's how much I loved it.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I agree, this is the only one I thought saw
in theaters and this is all which I'm so happy about.
But this is also the only one that made me
cry like I did cry at the Ozda Ballroom and
then also at the end Oh the movie.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, anybody else cry watching the I can watch movies,
this one.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Teary like yes, because I I just like the whole
concept of the movie. Slash. It was a Broadway show.
But yeah, like I loved a Dina Menzel and Christian
Chenna with right there next to Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande.
I just thought the acting, the singing, the way it looked,
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the way it felt, it just it held true to
its original but made it even better. And that's why
I just loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Was anybody else taken with I was? I thought Ariana
Grande had such a great cupmedic for for she was amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
So good and it was like her dream of life
to play this role.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And how many people could walk in the shoes of
Christian Chena with or in the shoes of a Dina Menzel.
They those are such big shoes to fill. It could
have gone so wrong if they didn't cast it correctly.
But those two were the perfect people to step in
and bring it to life and film. I thought I.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Would see it like passed on to this new generation
of people that that's going to be there. Glinda and Alphabet.
I think that's really nice.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I loved it so Amanda Siegfrid, Yes, I don't know
if I'm pronouncing her last same correct. She auditioned for Glinda,
And although I think she's amazing.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
She was amazing in Mama Mia.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
But knowing that, how you couldn't have casted it better
than Ariana.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I believe she.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Was the perfect And you know what, I don't know
how much I knew of Ariana Grande's acting abilities because
I just obviously she's got a phenomenal voice.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
But she have you seen her on SNL?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yes, you know what, and she is really good on SNL.
You're right, you're right. But I was really impressed with
her acting chops, like really impressed.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know it sounds great. I can't remember the name
of the show, but Sabine used to have me watching
the show she was on that was victorious. She used
to have me watching the show. Yeah, I could not
believe it.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
She was kind of had an airy voice, but she
was funny.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
But she was funny and she that had that hair
twirl she does throughout this movie. She was She was
the biggest surprise. I love Cynthia Rivo. There was something
about her character that's crazy as sounds I related to
to some degree, but just seeing how she was, she
brought a level of swagger I guess to Alphaba that
I didn't anticipate.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
She was.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I loved how she nailed Alphaba her Lock. Her singing
talent is we don't need to discuss. But she I loved, loved,
loved her in a way I didn't anticipate. I think,
I guess the two leads. I just I was kind
of blown away by the two of them. I would
not have gone to the theater. I would not have
come to use say hey, wickets coming out, you're gonna
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go see it. I would never have done that. If
you wanted me to go, I would have gone with you.
But this is not one I naturally would gravitate towards.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Do you want to see Part two in the theaters?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I mean, he will?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I think it's so good in theaters, Like, yeah, you're right.
I was like so in that world, like for that
amount of time, know how long it is, but like
I was like not even thinking about anything else, Like
I was just there, like it was so good.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
It was one of those things I would never elect,
even you saying wicked too, Like no, I would never say, hey,
it's coming out, let's go see it. It's not my lane.
I guess I'm not the who they're marketing towards. But
still there is not one issue I have with this movie.
It is wonderful from start to finish. Everybody should see it,
but still I wouldn't go to the theater to see it.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
It's the one, I just say one. But it kind
of is the one feel good movie of this sponge
I feel like it is. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Why was I pissed at the end? I was still mad?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Maybe because I was singing no, no, I want to
go to the movie theater where you can sing along.
That would be so fun.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Bring there was something about the ending and I can't
remember the story. Wait a minute, what do they do
with Wicket? They don't they This is all the stage.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Story, the first one. Now we're an intermission and we'll
wait for part two, which would be the second.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But they don't won't take new liberties with the story.
This is still the Wicked too, is going to be
what I've seen on stage? Correct? Okay? There was something
about this the way this one ended that I was upset.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Really, I thought it was incredibly powerful.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I wanted to ride off with Alphabet. There was something
about it. I was still upset, not at the movie, but.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I wanted more. You wanted to see where Alphabet was
going to take us next.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Okay, so there we have it. We've gone through the
ten movies now, so now we're going to get to
the point where we ask everybody in this room. Our
super producers Andy, Emma and Sydney as well as Robot
and I are going to tell you who we think
should be the winners of the major categories. We're only
going to do best Picture, and we're going to do
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what we say, best Active, Best Actress, and we leave
it that that worked for you, guys. That's what everybody's seen,
all right. I don't know who wants to start. Where
should we start? You know what, just because I know
she'll be annoyed by it, Let's start with Emma. Let's
start with Emma. Best Picture, Best Actor, Actor, and Best Actress.
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Who is your best actress?
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Best Actress?
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I I think I would go with Cynthia Rivo because
I didn't know who she was before and her performance
was stunning. I am so enthralled by her vocals. I'm
just all for singing and beautiful voices.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
She just deserves to win Best Actress.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
I think Best Actresses maybe the hardest category for me.
I feel like that's it's so there's so many good names,
but I would say Mikey Madison and Anora.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I'm gonna go with Demi Moore. I think it's her
best role and I think again it breaks boundaries for
the horror genre. It would be cool for that to
get the representation it deserves. And Demi Moore, I think
has had such a long career she earned it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I love that. I'm gonna have to go with Mikey
Madison because I was just blown away at her performance
and how authentic it was. But I wouldn't be upset
if to me one as well.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Mikey Madison. She's like, I will go campaign for her.
This was such a cool I just fell. I could
not believe what she did on screen. I thought it
was incredible. Best Actress Mikey Madison for me as well.
Best Actor? Who you got Andy?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
I really thought Adrian Brody was great. But I yeah,
I'm trying to think who else is nominated in that one.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Timothy Shallamy is the other big front runner.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, but maybe Ralph finds two. I really thought like
he's kind of has the deme of it all too
where he hasn't won an Oscar, and I think he's
due for one, and I think the performance was so nuanced,
so I wouldn't be mad if he got it, but
I'd also be totally fine with Adrian Brody getting it.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
I am so Timothy shallamet movies up there that's incredible,
and he in my eyes, he can do no wrong.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
I think mine is Ralph Findes because he made that
movie for me his acting, and I actually had never
seen him in anything before. I didn't know who that was,
and I just thought he was so, so, so amazing cool.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I'm gonna go with Adrian Brody, not only because I
think he was phenomenal what he did, but it'll make
me having seen the Brutalists, It just it makes it
feel all worth it. Having been able to see his
performance and then him winning, I can be like, yeah,
I watched that movie. I saw him.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I don't know how to go away. And in all fairness,
we didn't get a chance to see a completely unknown
so we can't compare it to what Timothy Shalamay has done.
He now is viewed as the only competition really for
Ray Fines after he excuse me, for Adrian Brody after
which was the Big Screen Actors Guild. Yeah, but I
just Adrian Brody is. You can't take your eyes off
of him, and I just don't know how people do that.
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He is an actor on a different scale. He is
just incredible, So yes, he has to be the guy.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
All right. Now we come to Best Picture, Andy, what
is your pick for Best Picture?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
With June too, but I wouldn't be mad if The
Substance or Nickel Boys also won, or Concleeve.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You just picked five movies, man, I picked four. Oh yeah,
he had a count.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Emma, how about you Best Picture?
Speaker 7 (43:26):
I don't think it's gonna win Best Picture, but I'm
going to go with a complete unknown because I just personally.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Loved it and you didn't see anything else. WHOA, I'm
just teasing you. That sounds like something I would say that,
So good, all right, Sidney, Best Picture?
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I just think overall, from like acting to directing, for me,
it's wicked.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh yeah, cool, all right? The best picture for me
is Anora. I just thought from the acting to the
storytelling and just my level of.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I was.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I was riveted. I didn't want the movie to end,
and a lot of the other movies I did want
them to end, So Anora for me is my for
Best Pictures?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Is that fair to say? Honora was my favorite movie?
But I think the Brutalist and Conclave might deserve.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
The Oscar me too. It was my favorite movie.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
NOA was the one that But it's not who I
think is going to win Best we will.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I will be rooting for Anora. I will be rooting
for Mikey Madison. But when they say Conclave and Brutalists,
I will stand up and cheer. Those movies are just
on a different there.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Just I agree, And you know what, thank you all
for agreeing to spend all of these hours watching all
of these movies. This is the first time I have
ever watched this many movies. And DJ and I have
both reported and covered the Oscars. We've been on the
red carpet, and I still in those years had not.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Wanted to never seen this movies that I have.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
This is my thing, Like I'm going to do this
every single year now, Like.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
It was so fun and I feel so cultured. I'm like, oh,
you haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
And how much fun is Sunday night going to be? Now? Oh?
Speaker 4 (45:14):
I'm throwing an Oscars party. I'm literally so.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
You know what, that is really good. Cool, but you
didn't want to jump in and correct you what you said.
You want to think all of them for watching all
the movies with us. You mean Andy and Sydney.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh right, she gets like a partial a partial bit
of my gratitude.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
A partying dig I'm okay with them again, folks, if
you want to go watch them, twenty five hobs and
twenty nine minutes of your life are waiting. But hope
you got something. It has some fun with us, because
we did have fun watching them. And congrats to all
of these movie makers. Look the matter. If you like
the movie, you don't like the movie, These are their lives.
The livelihoods is their arts, and they spend a whole
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lifetime putting this stuff together and getting to this point.
This is movie making on the grandest scale. Congratulations to
them all. But we will be rooting for them on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, we're gonna have an Oscar party, right.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be competing with Sydney's. Apparently we should
get our messages out to our friends.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Oscar party for all of us at Amy and TJ's house.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
That's a consideration. But thank you all for listening. Hope
you all had some fun, and yeah, if you have
some time, check out your favorites and we can all
talk about the Oscars. We'll definitely have a podcast talking
about what happened, who won, who didn't, and what we
think about it all, so stay tuned for that. But
in the meantime, I have a wonderful thing
Hey, they're focused in this episode. We watch them so
you don't have to. Welcome to part two of our
Best Picture of preview here on Naming and PJ. We
have watched all of these Haska movies, so you don't
have to do so. Because Robes, these are long movies,
very really long movies.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is a commitment of time and energy that I
don't think either one of us would have put into
it had it not been a self imposed work assignment.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
The single one of the ten Best Picture nominees are
under two hours. The shortest one is Conclave, which is
exactly two hours. Is this just where we are now?
Movies are just going to be longer?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't know. Because it's funny. You and I typically, well,
we do like our horror genre, and it just so
happens that most horror movies are about an hour and
thirty minutes. So we have just kind of gotten used
to that ninety minute thing, and I just feel like
that's so doable. Two hours. You're pushing it two and
a half hours. That's tough. Three hours plus, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, this is art, though, this is art. Rose look
full disclosure, everybody, we have not seen a single one
of the ten nominated films in the theater, but we
have seen just about all of them. If we haven't seen,
we have other folks in the room here with us.
We have our super producers, Andy, Emma and Sidney. If
you've listened to the podcast at all, you've heard their name.
So they joined us on this assignment of watching all
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of these movies so we could give you a review
so you don't have to. We are going to do
today Conclave, Doom two, I'm Still Here, The Substance, and Wicked.
We will start with Conclave, nominated for eight Oscars Best Picture,
Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Original Score, Adapted Screenplay among them,
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starring Ralph Fines, Stanley Tucci, John Lithgow, and Isabella Rosalini.
Directed by Edward Berger, this is based on a twenty
sixteen novel story that follows a cardinal task with running
the conclave to elect the next pope, and then secret
slies conspiracies are revealed that threatened the future of the church.
This one did well at the box office ninety eight
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point five million dollars. If you'd like to watch it,
it is available on Peacock and it's also available on
video on demand if you want to rent or buy it.
Runtime two hours, the shortest of the ten nominees, has
a ninety three percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and it
has picked up a very big award in the season,
the Best Film Award at the Baptist also Best Screenplay
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at the Golden Globes Robes Conclave. Your first impression riveting
and Lightning and Lightning from Sydney. Emma didn't watch? Sorry,
Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I knew that. It's at the
top of my notes. I know that, Emma.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Sorry, I'm gonna admit I failed you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I keep putting her in a position to say she failed.
She could never work for Elon Muss. What was Sure's handy?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I would say, modern classic, A.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Modern classic, I would My first impression was wow to
the ensemble cast. There is this crew of actors, is
the top of their game? That was my first impression.
Now we ropes have been covering for the past I
think several days a week plus. Now, what's happening with
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the Pope? Him being in the hospital, his illness, the
timing just as wild?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah? Is this art imitating life? Or is this life
imitating art? I don't know which it is, but certainly
I would imagine this has drawn a lot more folks
to watching this film because we're seeing potentially a conclave
playing out in front of us, or at least could
be happening in the next couple of weeks with Pope
Francis's deteriorating conditions. So you know, maybe perhaps a lot
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of new new members of viewing audience have never witnessed
or seen a conclave happen. We've reported on them over
the years. I was raised Catholic myself, so I found
this film to be fascinating about the politicking that goes
on behind the scenes, and it I just think it's
I mean, the filmmakers could never have known how timely
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it would be, but my goodness, it's worth a watch
given what's going on.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Uh Sydney Andy. I was struck by how much and
I guess we should know this, but I was struck
how much they nailed something that we find as sacred
as right church Catholics and these men who are at
the top, how just down and dirty. Yeah, and it's
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just nothing but politics. These are nothing but politics. That
kind of was jarring to me to a certain degree.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think like that's why I was enlightening to me,
just kind of that like inside look inside the Roman
Catholic Church. I didn't know anything about Conclave, anything about
it going into this movie, and just like seeing all
of those like little minute details like kept me entertained
the whole time.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was just like a bun. It was.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
It's like if you look at it all around, it's
like almost slow. But it was like all those little
petty things that they were doing. I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
This is crazy to see.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I don't know these leaders that you hold to such
a standard doing that.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It felt like watching Catholic Survivor, where like I didn't
know what was going on, like the politicking involved the
alliances that are formed trying to get people's votes. I
found that to be so fascinating. I loved like the
humor in it. I like because there were very funny parts,
Like I feel like the ending Ralph Find's character. I
won't give it away, but like he just at that point,
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he just has a look on his face that I
just started laughing because I'm like, I feel so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
For this man. He's been put through the ringer.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, and Ralph finds as an actor can say so
much just with his face, yeah, without even using his
own words. But I think for me, it's a reminder
when you watch this film that cardinals, popes are men. Men,
They're humans, and there is still there are, there will
always be elements of greed and power and corruption, no
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matter what organization you're looking into or inside, whether it's
you know, even a church, still has those same elements.
Because these are men, they are not anything extraordinary in
terms of just their humanness was on full display. It
was a pretty cool potential look into what may be
going on actually right now.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was just so well acted these guys. Ray Fines
is just I don't think he's picked up any major
awards in this award season, but he is just He
carries the movie and I forgot about I think I
can remember which one of you said it, but there's
a scene at the end where it just all comes
out of him. Yeah, and you see it and like, god,
this poor guy. I also have.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Isabella Roslini too. She was amazing too. She had like
one scene that was it, but she nailed that scene
so well.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The cafeteria, right y, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I didn't recognize her at first it took me a
second say, wait, is that Isabella Rosselini?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And sure enough, and she was so good I thought, oh,
John Lithgow, Stanley Tucci. I just think it was such
a good cast. And these are men who you see
usually do very different characters, so it was cool to
see them all together in this setting.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And there is a twist twist at the end.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There's a big twist.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You will don't. I don't care who you are, you
will not guess it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
No, damn yeah, if you read about it, if you're
going in, you will never guess it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You will not guess it. So if you had to
recommend it, Andy, would you recommend it to a friend?
And what?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Absolutely? I think it is just again a modern classic.
I think you can go back and rewatch this. The
rewatchability is like through the roof. You can show it
to friends who you don't have to invest or feel like,
I don't know, the Brutalist. You just watch it and
you just started just like, oh that was heavy. This
one you can kind of just watch and it ends
and you're like, I really like that. And now it's
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nominated for Best Picture. So wow, it's easy for me
to died, So I.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Would one hundred percent recommend it. I think it's it's
just such an interesting watch. Like I think, no matter
who you are anything like, you'll be invested in this,
in this story and who comes out on top. And
I just think, yeah, I would definitely recommend it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We're recommending to you, Emma that you should watch it
in your free time. No, it's it's a it's a
great thriller. I think that's you know, it's just you're
you're waiting, and I don't think it disappoints the ending.
Whether you like it or not, it still was thrilling
at the end. So I would absolutely recommend this to anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's thrilling, that is, and it's so well acted. I
respect every in. Some of the names of the guy
when you see their faces, you're like, oh that guy
was the is just so good. So yes, absolutely recommend this.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
All Right, Okay, we'll move on now to Dune two,
nominated for five Oscars. Uh TJ, you're already giving away
how you feel about the movie. All right, five Oscars
Best Picture, Sound, Visual Effects, Production, Design, and Cinematography. It
stars oh a name we've heard before. Timothy Shallimey Zendeia,
Rebecca Ferguson, Josh Broland, Austin Butler, Florence Pew, Christopher walk In,
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Javier Bardem, Dave Bautista. It's it's really a who's who
in the acting world. Every time a new scene was coming,
I was like, wait, what, they're in it too. That's
how I felt when I was watching it. It's all
based on a nineteen sixty five novel by Frank Herbert
and the sequel to twenty twenty one's Dune Part one,
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So Dune Part two picks up where Dune Part one
left off. It follows Paul, who is a messiah like
figure who rallies a group of desert indigenous desert people
waging a war for the universe and seeking revenge on
those who destroyed his family. This was a box office juggernaut.
Seven hundred and fourteen point six million dollars. That's how
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much it grossed at the box office. The runtime is
a little daunting two hours and forty six minutes. It
definitely took us quite a while to watch this one.
Rotten Tomato score ninety two and so far. Best Picture
nominations BAFTA and Critics' Choice Awards Golden Globes as well.
So it's gotten a lot of nominations, and we'll go
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around and find out what you all thought about it.
First impressions, Andy, epic.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Great cast, stunning.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was not a fan amazing Okay, wow, not a
fan amazing wow. We were sitting next to each other
watching this, not a fan, an amazing movie. I get
what you're saying. You know what, We're gonna say the
same thing here. Imagine, folks, if today someone came to
you and said, go watch this Star Wars sequel to
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the original Star Wars, so you would go have to
watch episode five, The Empire Strikes Back, which is the
sequel to the original Star Wars. See how confusing that is.
What I'm saying is if you try to just jump
into Doom Part two, it is such an epic story
that you did. There's so much catching up to do
and the nuance and the understanding that it makes it
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difficult to watch if you're new to the story. I
say wow, and this thing was amazing is because it
is movie making on the grandest, most epic, biggest, most
beautiful scale that you look at and go wow. But
it was tough to follow if you're new to the game.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Correct, So the nominations actually mirror exactly what you're saying.
What this film is nominated for. I fully support sound,
visual effects, production design, cinematography. All of that absolutely makes sense. Look,
I'm someone who is a fan of sci fi and
I love all the Star Wars, we love Game of Thrones.
I like complicated, complex storytelling. However, unfortunately, maybe I because
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I tried to watch Dune Part one on a plane
and fell asleep. I already came into it thinking like,
how am I gonna catch up? And then I found
myself actually having to google the story while I was
watching it to make sense of it. And so I
maybe this is just my own ego, but I felt
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dumb watching it. I was having a hard time following
it and what they were saying. There's a lot of
language that doesn't exist, It's like ancient language. So I
just I felt mired in all of the complexities of
the story that I didn't fully grasp, and so that
is the only reason why it was just it took
too much effort for me to follow along.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Okay, Doom, we didn't see Doom one. I fell asleep
on a plane as well on Doing One. Not earlier
it happened. But did everybody over there see Doing One?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You did not, Okay, so you told us. Actually, Andy,
you say, hey, you'll be fine watching this movie if
you haven't seen Doing One. But you love this one.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I personally, I know I can't be given away how
I feel like until the end. But this is my
favorite movie of the year. I think it's epic. I
think it's amazing. I love the story, I love the music.
I think everything about it just works for me. I loved,
loved it. I think it just I don't know, it
just comes together perfectly. I saw it three times in
the theater. What way I know.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm sorry you saw it three times in the theater.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
With different people because it kept being like I need
to see this again. And on IMAX, let me tell
you something. That worm scene where he's on the worm
and ride in the worm. I was feeling things and
this man is writing a worm and I'm getting like,
damn you go.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Were the worms like adversaries or were they.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They are bad?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But yes, they contained the worm?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, it was part of my computer.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I really wish I got to see that in Imax
or whatever it is that I think would have changed
everything for me, because I already thought it was so
stunning just watching it on my TV.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, and I saw it and Imax that one, and
then they did like a special limited run with like
Imax seventy millimeters or something, which is like old. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I in theater three times to see a two hour
and forty six minute film.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
To me, the same way that you said the brutalist
friends told you that that like the three and a
half hour runtime didn't feel like that to me. Every
time I watch it, I'm just blown away the whole time,
where I don't even notice the runtime.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You spent eight hours and fifteen minutes of your life,
and I'll do it again, DJ happily in the theater,
Emma help us here.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Well, I didn't see doing part one, and so that
I think, agreeing with Amy, that kind of threw me
off because I also like sci fi, but I have
to know what's going on, and I should have seen
it before, even though I heard from many people, you
don't have to see the first one to understand it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So you talked to Andy too.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
He told you that everyone said you didn't have to
see the first and so I wish I would have
because I am a huge Star Wars fan as well.
But I think it's important to be able to have
the knowledge to follow correctly.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's a big story. Yeah, it's such a big story.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I love this story. I just that's like my type
of narrative, Like that's the movie I want to see.
And I think it's just it's so hard to pull
off sometimes and I think for it being a sequel,
they're just able to do it so well in my opinion, and.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
People should know they're is star after star after star
after star that keeps showing up in this movie. It's
not real.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I was so shocked.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
And there's like one random shot of like Anya Taylor Joy.
I was like, wait what.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I was so confused.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Oh yeah, well she had a few lines.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, but I was just like for her for such
a big star too.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
So she'll be in the next one for sure, because
that's the sister.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Rebecca Ferguson Bardam, you have Shala, may have Zendaia, we
have Josh Brolin. This movie was jam. Yes, Christopher Walken.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
It's yes, Austin Butler.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I had to start that I did have fun actually
just seeing the who's who in the cast, and I
appreciated all of the art that was involved in it.
I just the movie made me feel dumb.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, no, no, it's a complex story and okay, we
get put notes together for this podcast. This is the
one note on the synopsis of Doom Too that took
me the longest. I read and read and read, and
I couldn't just summarize what this movie was about. It
is big, it's complex, and at the end of this one,
I don't is he a good guy or bad guy?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
That's the thing. It's like he started in Uprising and
you don't know, like is he too far gone into
it and he's not like he he kind of forgot
who he was in the midst of all of it.
And I found that to me like amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Ki. Yeah, it was kind of Khalisi and we love
Game of Throne, so like we're into all of that storytelling.
But it was one of those questions where yes, he
was propped up as a messiah like figure, but I
don't know who's bad, who's good, who's right, who's wrong.
And I know that's part of the excitement of the movie,
but it also was frustrating me. I wanted to know
who to root for.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But it's gorgeous, though. If you had to friend comes
up to you, Hey, Sidney, should I see Done too?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You would say what, yes, even alone, just for the
cast and for how attractive Timothy Shallimey looks in that movie.
Aside from the visual aspects of Dune and whatnot, I.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Was just like, Yeah, his hair is so well conditioned
to be in the desert. He has some great product. Emma,
would you recommend this to a friend?
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I would recommend it to a certain friend, and I
would say, if they are invested in the story, to
watch both movies.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean I saw it three times already, so absolutely
y yeah to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Ask, yeah, I don't think I would recommend it to
anyone that I know.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I just don't, you know, that's a good point. I
don't know if I would. I respect it. I think
it's gorgeous. It's just not my lane, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I actually don't think it needs a recommendation because the
fans are the fans, and they're built in and they're huge,
and I don't need to convince anybody to see something.
If you didn't choose to go see it. I don't
know that you would want to go see it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I had never read the books, so for me, the
movies are what kind of made me a fan. Okay,
And I don't think I can read the book because
it is too big, and I have tried after watching
the movies. But yeah, no, no, the movies got me in.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh yeah, he'll go to the theater three times. No,
I'm not going to read that big book.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Ages and imagine all those characters but written out, I.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can't keep that. That's okay, good point, That's tough. All right.
Next one, We're going to get through quickly, and I'll
explain why here in a second. Next one, I'm still here.
Nominated for three Oscars Best Picture, Best Actress, and Best
International Feature Film. Fernanda Torres starring in This One. Directed
by Walter Salez, this is a foreign film about a
woman who tries to hold her family together after her
husband's disappearance at the hands of Brazil's a brutal dictatorship.
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This made twenty seven point three million dollars at the
box office worldwide. It is still in limited theatrical release
if you want to try to find it. Runtime of
two hours fifteen minutes. I believe this is the highest
Rotten Tomato score of all the films, ninety seven percent
Rotten Tomato score. It has gotten all the big major nominations,
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but no major wins. However, Fernanda Torres did receive the
Best Actress at the Golden Globes. We have to say here,
nobody was able to see this one. We can't find
it anywhere streaming, there's nowhere online, and it's limited release.
It's hard to find in a theater if you want
to check it out. But the word on it, I
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guess who I know? Andy, You're one that's very much
in the movies and know what's going on. But who
can speak on this for what have you heard about it?
And has it been recommended to anybody in this room.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I heard that she's really good in it, and so
I do want to see it for that reason. It's
just so hard to find anywhere because it's an international release,
so those things usually take like months and months to
get on video on demand. But I do want to
see it, so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Folks or take that need to remember that about the movie. Yes,
it is difficult to find right now. I cool detail though, Andy,
we were just talking about this. Fernanda Torres is nominated
for Best Actress and a very cool story here only two, right, Andy,
I'll let you speak to it. Only two Brazilian women
have ever been nominated in this category.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's Fernanda and her mom. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, that makes me want to watch the movie just
because of that cool, fun fact. And I think when
it is available to stream this I even like the
premise of it. This is a movie that I would see,
so I actually am looking forward to it. And it's
you know, I know everyone has their favorites for Best Actress,
but it'd be really cool that stories somehow she did
manage to pull out a win, and some people say
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that that could happen. Something to look for. All right,
we'll move on. I'm laughing, but you'll soon find out why.
For our next movie, The Substance five Oscars Best Picture,
Best Actress, Best Director, Makeup and Hairstyling, and Original Screenplay.
It stars Demi Moore, mar Great Quality and Dennis Quaid.
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Directed by Coraley. I don't want to say her name wrong,
Coraley far yet, does anyone know how to fier Jay? See?
I knew I was going to destroy that. This the
premise of this movie is super cool, and this is
what drew me into it and made me want to
see it from the beginning. It's an aged out celebrity
decides to take a mystery drug with the promise of
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a younger, better version of herself. Well, things go wild,
to say the least, and it gets It goes from
being wild to crazy to perhaps even surreal. At the end.
Box office gross on this movie seventy seven million. You
can watch it if you want to pay for it
video on demand now where you stream your shows. Two
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hours and twenty minutes is the runtime. Rotten Tomatoes score
was eighty nine percent. This one has several picture nominations
Best Picture nominations. Tom Moore already won the Golden Globe
for Best Actress. She certainly is. She's that acceptance speech
she gave at the Gold Globes. Some people have said
that was probably an acceptance speech that got a lot
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of miles to it because she talked about being called
a popcorn actress early on in her career, and now
she's been legitimized with this role. So a lot of
folks are this is the big thing. Whether Demi Moore
will win Best Actress or not at the Oscars this weekend,
So we'll go around and get everyone's take on their
first impressions of this movie. Andy, how about you?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Amazing?
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I loved it, amazing, but very nauseous.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'm so glad I saw it.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I really enjoyed it and thought it was incredibly unique
and entertaining.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What the actual fuck.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Was my first impress You actually had a very visceral
emotional reaction to the movie, especially in the last part
of it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'm trying to and I get the first I was
hooked the premise, the idea Demi Moore that, oh, this
movie started out with a very original it was a
cool story. It just it went into an area in
the end. What this was for me, it was an
unpleasant viewing experience. I found myself actually uncomfortable or squirming
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or not wanting to look at the television. I found
myself finding the story or the events so absurd at
times that it then for me lost that great message
and story at the beginning. That's what it was for me,
And it is the exact opposite I know for a
lot of folks.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, no, and you are a big horror movie fan.
But you made a very big point to say, Robes,
I like horror movies, but I do not like body horror,
and that is exactly what this movie was for me.
It got a little hard to watch, funny enough, with
the audio up whoever did the sound that went along
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with the movie, it made what you were seeing even
more grotesque when you heard what you were seeing. Does
that make sense?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I also never thought that I was like squeamish of needles,
and then the amount of close ups of needles and like,
I just I was like, I guess the new fear
has been unlocked because I did not know that I
was that creeped out by it.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
I already had a developed fear of needles and up
close shots of blood and stitches, so I was well
prepared and I was okay during those scenes. Except it
was so well done with the prosthetics and the angles
to make you feel so disgusted that I completely appreciated
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the fact that I felt that way, but I could
not sit like I was actually like Gagnant, I.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Was so disturbed by a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I almost feel like the movie could have like ended
thirty minutes early, like it was so much with like
that whole end part where I was like, like it
like lost me on the original point of the movie
that I was so invested in and that I was like,
I'm so glad that they're like bringing attention to this
and like the pressure of women to like look a
specific way for so long forever.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I also thought it was.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Just like so interesting, like how physically disgusted I was
by Dennis Kuwait's character. I was literally repulsed when he
was eating that like lobster. I was like, or the
shrimp or whatever. Yeah, I was like, this is more
disgusting than the needles. And some of the body shots
to me is like the close up on your face,
Like I literally could not watch it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I was shocked he never got a Best Supporting Actor. No,
I feel like he shouldn't have been nominated.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Or market quality. I feel like she got no love.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I feel like she.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Was so good.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
She was she was excellent. So that was shocking to
me because I think both of them deserved They were
a huge part of making me like that movie.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, this Quaid's character did exactly what you He was
a filthy discuss. You just hated him, hated him, but
he played his role, so I wash, he nothing. I
haven't seen him anywhere good nominated for.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Em like mentioned it. I don't think it's fair.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I don't know how that stuff works. But he was
a very integral part of that movie being disgusting.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Agreed, And I completely think he got robbed on that one,
as so did Margaret. I completely agree with all of that. Yes,
you know it's funny, Sidney. You pointed this out, and
I know TJ believes this too. But it got to
the point where I loved some of the shocking parts
of the movie, even the gross parts of the movie,
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but at the end it just got silly, and I
like funny. I like, I'll take gross, I'll take shocking.
I don't really like silly, and it felt like it
got silly at the end. She's like, it's still me
like crying out of some body part that I don't
want to laugh like in that way at a horror movie.
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I love horror comedy, but when it's unintended humor, that
for me is where it slightly missed the mark.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But look, everybody's a lot of folks said this was
This movie got standing ovations in places. This is a
movie that people looked at and the shock of it
was supposed to be the draw of it, and the
beauty of it, to a certain degree was what they
were doing. It was just entirely too much for me.
So with that, I'll start with me when we go
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around and ask would you recommend this to her friend?
And why? Uh huh? Why would I not? Because I
want you to keep your food down after dinner.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I say that somewhat jokingly. It's just it was a hard,
hard watch. But to me more who she was incredible
in that.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Movie, so good the scene where she was like wiping
off her makeup that I would watch that scene, just
that scene again. I was just like, that was so
Also I saw us on TikTok Ray Liota was suposed
to play Dennis Quade's character and then he passed away.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh wow, okay, I could have seen that. That actually
made oh yeah, playing the Dennis Wade character. So I
totally can see that. That makes sense to me, I
just like too much.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I also saw this on TikTok that they made Margaret
Qualley or like had her where like some sort of
like fake boobs or something like that, which I just
thought was so interesting. Because she's like the perfect, you
know what I mean, Like she's supposed to be like
the perfect. It's like so interesting that even like what
everyone was like aspiring to look like, even that on
the behind the scenes, it's like, wasn't wasn't they still
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had to like do something irony.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, the irony exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I think that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We do have it tough, Yeah, we do, Sidney, would
you recommend it?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I honestly like, I feel like everyone says should see
this movie, Emma.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
I think I love the underlining meaning behind it because
I feel like something like that is so in our future,
and so I.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Love the plot and I love the way I felt
during the movie, even though I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Want to feel that way.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
But I would totally recommend it.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Andy, one hundred percent. And just another little behind the
scenes thing. I work on a podcast and they interviewed
the producer of this movie and she said the original
cut that she flew out to Paris to watch with
Coraley was four and a half hours, and the last
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scene where it just goes off the rails was thirty
minutes longer. Oh, every single thing in that script was filmed,
and she just made a four and a half hour cut,
So there does exist a four and a half hour
cut at this movie.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I can't wait till that's released on streaming.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
For sure, we'll watch it together.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And I would absolutely recommend it as well, because yes,
I just I liked it. I just liked it from
a storytelling standpoint, but I think the women in this
room also know, and being the oldest woman and person
in this room, I related to it on another level
as well. You know, you start to see your peers,
people who might just be a little bit older than you,
(30:12):
doing drastic things to try and look younger, and and
I always you know, I I've asked people to check me.
You know, I don't ever you want to look the
best you can, but you also don't want to be
desperate to look like something you can't ever fully attain.
And so I think the message in the movie I
definitely spoke to me.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, but it was like never enough to exactly that,
and that I feel like it's just so like with
ozembic plastic surgery fillers everything, it's like you're never going
to reach that perfect and people keep going like and
just as a woman, that movie just really absolutely and.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Some people do go to the point where I don't
want to say they look grotesque, but it's it's it's
not a better version of what they would have had
had they just left.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well enough, they certainly drove that home home that point, didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Can we just talk about it, okay.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I also think it's cool though, that horror got its moment,
because horror never gets its moment. At the Academy Awards,
it he was.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
We had this argument because he was like, that wasn't horror,
that was a horror movie.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Yet I actually have a point.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, Emma, you're not. We're gonna we're gonna be on
the same page. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
So actually I discussed this with my roommate Abby. We
broke it down into three parts, the first part being horror,
the second part being a thriller, in the third part
being a comedy.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh, I could get behind that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You tell me the end was supposed to be comedic.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well it was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, okay, it is supposed to be a dark comedy
at the end, like you're supposed to laugh at it.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I think Emma's earlier point about you you're going with
an expectation. I thought this was this, and that was this.
I think I didn't know it was a horror movie.
If I had known that, I think I might have
received it differently. I did not. This was a straight
up there was a monster in this movie. Yeah, I
didn't know that was happening. Yeah, I didn't know that
was happening. All right, last, let's then not a happy note,
(32:02):
shall we? Well kind of I had issues with this
one at the end. All right, folks, Wicked, Wicked. Here
it is ten Oscars, and it's important to tell you
which ones they're nominated for Best Picture, Best Actress, Best
Supporting Actress, Visual Effects, sound Editing, original score, makeup, hair styling,
costume design, and production design. Of course, this star is
(32:26):
Cynthia Orrivo, Ariana Grande, Jonathan Bailey, but you also got
Peter Dinklegen. Here, you got Jeff Goldblum, you got Michelle Yo.
Directed by John M. Chew. This was adapted, of course,
from the hit musical. It traces the origins of the
friendship and falling out between Alphaba and Glinda, the two
characters we came to know as the Wicked Witch of
the West and Glinda, the good Witch. This one seven
(32:48):
hundred and twenty eight million dollars at the box office.
It is available to rent or buy on demand right now.
It'll be on Peacock on March twenty first, that has
been announced. Runtime two hours, forty minutes. Rotten Tomato score
eighty eight percent. It has been nominated for several awards,
but it's been getting beat out in all the major
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ones because of it's got stiff competition, of course, but
it did pick up the Cinematic and Box Office Achievement
Award at the Golden Globes. Andy first impression of Wicked.
I liked it.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Chills this delivered for me.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Cynthia Rivo is my hero, I think. Is my first
impression of this movie. I've seen everybody here seeing her
on stage seen Wicked? Yes, No, you haven't seen it
on stage?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Did anybody here did? I don't know if you did, Robes,
maybe you're the only one I should ask is did
you see the Chennaw? Did you ever see her on stage?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So I did. I actually saw it when it first
came out with Christian Chenawi as Glinda or Glinda. Yes,
and that was mind blowing to me. And then I
saw it a second time after they had already come
and gone. So I've seen it twice and I thought
this movie was incredible. I love the nod that they
(34:12):
gave to the originals and that.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
But yeah, no, they're in there. Yeah, everybody knows that
it was.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It was I thought, just with what they can do,
uh with movies, and it just it brought it to
an even more colorful, beautiful life than the stage even
was able to know.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You said this, you said they create the worlds they
were able to create.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oh my god, the final scene defying gravity, I mean,
I had chills from head to toe. I wanted to
run to go see the second installment. In that moment,
I was ready for another two hours and forty minutes. Wow,
that's how much I loved it.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I agree, this is the only one I thought saw
in theaters and this is all which I'm so happy about.
But this is also the only one that made me
cry like I did cry at the Ozda Ballroom and
then also at the end Oh the movie.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, anybody else cry watching the I can watch movies,
this one.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Teary like yes, because I I just like the whole
concept of the movie. Slash. It was a Broadway show.
But yeah, like I loved a Dina Menzel and Christian
Chenna with right there next to Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande.
I just thought the acting, the singing, the way it looked,
(35:32):
the way it felt, it just it held true to
its original but made it even better. And that's why
I just loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Was anybody else taken with I was? I thought Ariana
Grande had such a great cupmedic for for she was amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
So good and it was like her dream of life
to play this role.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And how many people could walk in the shoes of
Christian Chena with or in the shoes of a Dina Menzel.
They those are such big shoes to fill. It could
have gone so wrong if they didn't cast it correctly.
But those two were the perfect people to step in
and bring it to life and film. I thought I.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Would see it like passed on to this new generation
of people that that's going to be there. Glinda and Alphabet.
I think that's really nice.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I loved it so Amanda Siegfrid, Yes, I don't know
if I'm pronouncing her last same correct. She auditioned for Glinda,
And although I think she's amazing.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
She was amazing in Mama Mia.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
But knowing that, how you couldn't have casted it better
than Ariana.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I believe she.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Was the perfect And you know what, I don't know
how much I knew of Ariana Grande's acting abilities because
I just obviously she's got a phenomenal voice.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
But she have you seen her on SNL?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yes, you know what, and she is really good on SNL.
You're right, you're right. But I was really impressed with
her acting chops, like really impressed.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know it sounds great. I can't remember the name
of the show, but Sabine used to have me watching
the show she was on that was victorious. She used
to have me watching the show. Yeah, I could not
believe it.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
She was kind of had an airy voice, but she
was funny.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
But she was funny and she that had that hair
twirl she does throughout this movie. She was She was
the biggest surprise. I love Cynthia Rivo. There was something
about her character that's crazy as sounds I related to
to some degree, but just seeing how she was, she
brought a level of swagger I guess to Alphaba that
I didn't anticipate.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
She was.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I loved how she nailed Alphaba her Lock. Her singing
talent is we don't need to discuss. But she I loved, loved,
loved her in a way I didn't anticipate. I think,
I guess the two leads. I just I was kind
of blown away by the two of them. I would
not have gone to the theater. I would not have
come to use say hey, wickets coming out, you're gonna
(37:45):
go see it. I would never have done that. If
you wanted me to go, I would have gone with you.
But this is not one I naturally would gravitate towards.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Do you want to see Part two in the theaters?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I mean, he will?
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I think it's so good in theaters, Like, yeah, you're right.
I was like so in that world, like for that
amount of time, know how long it is, but like
I was like not even thinking about anything else, Like
I was just there, like it was so good.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
It was one of those things I would never elect,
even you saying wicked too, Like no, I would never say, hey,
it's coming out, let's go see it. It's not my lane.
I guess I'm not the who they're marketing towards. But
still there is not one issue I have with this movie.
It is wonderful from start to finish. Everybody should see it,
but still I wouldn't go to the theater to see it.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
It's the one, I just say one. But it kind
of is the one feel good movie of this sponge
I feel like it is. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Why was I pissed at the end? I was still mad?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Maybe because I was singing no, no, I want to
go to the movie theater where you can sing along.
That would be so fun.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Bring there was something about the ending and I can't
remember the story. Wait a minute, what do they do
with Wicket? They don't they This is all the stage.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Story, the first one. Now we're an intermission and we'll
wait for part two, which would be the second.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But they don't won't take new liberties with the story.
This is still the Wicked too, is going to be
what I've seen on stage? Correct? Okay? There was something
about this the way this one ended that I was upset.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Really, I thought it was incredibly powerful.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I wanted to ride off with Alphabet. There was something
about it. I was still upset, not at the movie, but.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
I wanted more. You wanted to see where Alphabet was
going to take us next.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Okay, so there we have it. We've gone through the
ten movies now, so now we're going to get to
the point where we ask everybody in this room. Our
super producers Andy, Emma and Sydney as well as Robot
and I are going to tell you who we think
should be the winners of the major categories. We're only
going to do best Picture, and we're going to do
(39:45):
what we say, best Active, Best Actress, and we leave
it that that worked for you, guys. That's what everybody's seen,
all right. I don't know who wants to start. Where
should we start? You know what, just because I know
she'll be annoyed by it, Let's start with Emma. Let's
start with Emma. Best Picture, Best Actor, Actor, and Best Actress.
(40:07):
Who is your best actress?
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Best Actress?
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I I think I would go with Cynthia Rivo because
I didn't know who she was before and her performance
was stunning. I am so enthralled by her vocals. I'm
just all for singing and beautiful voices.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
She just deserves to win Best Actress.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
I think Best Actresses maybe the hardest category for me.
I feel like that's it's so there's so many good names,
but I would say Mikey Madison and Anora.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I'm gonna go with Demi Moore. I think it's her
best role and I think again it breaks boundaries for
the horror genre. It would be cool for that to
get the representation it deserves. And Demi Moore, I think
has had such a long career she earned it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I love that. I'm gonna have to go with Mikey
Madison because I was just blown away at her performance
and how authentic it was. But I wouldn't be upset
if to me one as well.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Mikey Madison. She's like, I will go campaign for her.
This was such a cool I just fell. I could
not believe what she did on screen. I thought it
was incredible. Best Actress Mikey Madison for me as well.
Best Actor? Who you got Andy?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
I really thought Adrian Brody was great. But I yeah,
I'm trying to think who else is nominated in that one.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Timothy Shallamy is the other big front runner.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, but maybe Ralph finds two. I really thought like
he's kind of has the deme of it all too
where he hasn't won an Oscar, and I think he's
due for one, and I think the performance was so nuanced,
so I wouldn't be mad if he got it, but
I'd also be totally fine with Adrian Brody getting it.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
I am so Timothy shallamet movies up there that's incredible,
and he in my eyes, he can do no wrong.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
I think mine is Ralph Findes because he made that
movie for me his acting, and I actually had never
seen him in anything before. I didn't know who that was,
and I just thought he was so, so, so amazing cool.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I'm gonna go with Adrian Brody, not only because I
think he was phenomenal what he did, but it'll make
me having seen the Brutalists, It just it makes it
feel all worth it. Having been able to see his
performance and then him winning, I can be like, yeah,
I watched that movie. I saw him.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I don't know how to go away. And in all fairness,
we didn't get a chance to see a completely unknown
so we can't compare it to what Timothy Shalamay has done.
He now is viewed as the only competition really for
Ray Fines after he excuse me, for Adrian Brody after
which was the Big Screen Actors Guild. Yeah, but I
just Adrian Brody is. You can't take your eyes off
of him, and I just don't know how people do that.
(43:00):
He is an actor on a different scale. He is
just incredible, So yes, he has to be the guy.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
All right. Now we come to Best Picture, Andy, what
is your pick for Best Picture?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
With June too, but I wouldn't be mad if The
Substance or Nickel Boys also won, or Concleeve.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
You just picked five movies, man, I picked four. Oh yeah,
he had a count.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Emma, how about you Best Picture?
Speaker 7 (43:26):
I don't think it's gonna win Best Picture, but I'm
going to go with a complete unknown because I just personally.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Loved it and you didn't see anything else. WHOA, I'm
just teasing you. That sounds like something I would say that,
So good, all right, Sidney, Best Picture?
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I just think overall, from like acting to directing, for me,
it's wicked.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh yeah, cool, all right? The best picture for me
is Anora. I just thought from the acting to the
storytelling and just my level of.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
I was.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I was riveted. I didn't want the movie to end,
and a lot of the other movies I did want
them to end, So Anora for me is my for
Best Pictures?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Is that fair to say? Honora was my favorite movie?
But I think the Brutalist and Conclave might deserve.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
The Oscar me too. It was my favorite movie.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
NOA was the one that But it's not who I
think is going to win Best we will.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I will be rooting for Anora. I will be rooting
for Mikey Madison. But when they say Conclave and Brutalists,
I will stand up and cheer. Those movies are just
on a different there.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Just I agree, And you know what, thank you all
for agreeing to spend all of these hours watching all
of these movies. This is the first time I have
ever watched this many movies. And DJ and I have
both reported and covered the Oscars. We've been on the
red carpet, and I still in those years had not.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Wanted to never seen this movies that I have.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
This is my thing, Like I'm going to do this
every single year now, Like.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
It was so fun and I feel so cultured. I'm like, oh,
you haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
And how much fun is Sunday night going to be? Now? Oh?
Speaker 4 (45:14):
I'm throwing an Oscars party. I'm literally so.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
You know what, that is really good. Cool, but you
didn't want to jump in and correct you what you said.
You want to think all of them for watching all
the movies with us. You mean Andy and Sydney.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh right, she gets like a partial a partial bit
of my gratitude.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
A partying dig I'm okay with them again, folks, if
you want to go watch them, twenty five hobs and
twenty nine minutes of your life are waiting. But hope
you got something. It has some fun with us, because
we did have fun watching them. And congrats to all
of these movie makers. Look the matter. If you like
the movie, you don't like the movie, These are their lives.
The livelihoods is their arts, and they spend a whole
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lifetime putting this stuff together and getting to this point.
This is movie making on the grandest scale. Congratulations to
them all. But we will be rooting for them on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, we're gonna have an Oscar party, right.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be competing with Sydney's. Apparently we should
get our messages out to our friends.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Oscar party for all of us at Amy and TJ's house.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
That's a consideration. But thank you all for listening. Hope
you all had some fun, and yeah, if you have
some time, check out your favorites and we can all
talk about the Oscars. We'll definitely have a podcast talking
about what happened, who won, who didn't, and what we
think about it all, so stay tuned for that. But
in the meantime, I have a wonderful thing
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