February 13, 2024 • 34 mins
T.J. Holmes and Amy Robach are used to covering the story and interviewing the newsmakers. In a controversial twist, today, T.J. puts Amy in the hot seat.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast. Amen TJ. Here we
are going to chance to interview each other. Robot sitting
next to me now, and what I can't remember what
your answer was when you interviewed me. Are you someone
who prefers to ask the questions or do you like
being interviewed?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I always like asking the questions more than answering them.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, Well, with that said, I'm about to ask you
a series of questions and folks, just so you know,
we have not so we didn't. She has no idea
what I'm about to ask her, what direction any of
this is going to go? And with that, here we go.
Why haven't you done an interview before? Now, since all
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this went down, you haven't spoken? Haven't done an interview?
Why not?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Because I know as a journalist, when you give your
story to someone else, you then put your story in
their hands. They can edit it, they can change meanings,
they can change context. And after everything that I've experienced
being on the other side of the headlines, instead of
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reporting them, I became them, I knew what can happen
when you give your story or you give an interview
to someone else. It can be misconstrued and I was
not interested in doing that. I wanted to tell my
own story.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Was you do it live?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yes, I would have if I had been with someone
who I trusted. The problem is, and I don't mind
answering questions that I don't know ahead of time. Clearly
here we are right now doing it. But I wanted
it to be the right time, and it wasn't the
right time yet. I wanted things to quiet down. I
didn't want there to be all of the mayhem that
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was surrounding us be a part.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Of the question do you think you're ready now?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think that I would be ready.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I still believe that with everything that you and I
want to say, it's better to have our own platform
in our own home, because I do still feel a
massive distrust for the industry that I once worked.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You say everything you and you want to say it
was is you want to say.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've been saying it. I just want to set the
record straight. I think our narrative, I know, I don't think.
I know that our narrative was stolen from us, and
unfortunately many people still believe what they read. And so yes,
I would still and I'm going to and we're going
to still speak out and.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Speak up about it, but I'd prefer to do it
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do you have so you have at this point no
plans were doing an interview.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I don't have any plans right now, but I wouldn't.
I wouldn't at this point. I wouldn't say no. If
the right opportunity came up and the right person asked,
I would likely say yes.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Pick someone. Who would it be the one person to
do one interview with you?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Hoe to copy Savannah Go three.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I've known them, I love them, I worked with them.
I trust them probably more than any other two journalists
because I know them.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You might you're gonna do that on solo?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, you were just asking who I would pick. We
would obviously have to have a larger conversation about that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I mean, I'm cool. I mean, Savannah's fine with that. Oda,
that's sus I don't know. I'm kidding Oda. You know
I love you. What do you think the general consensus is?
What do you think people think of you?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Wow? The people who know me, That's not what.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm talking about. The people who general in general, general
consensus from the public. What do you think people think
of you? Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't know the answer to that, I think that
I mean, if they believe the tabloids, they think I'm
a cheater and a home wrecker.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And all these awful things.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And I think if they actually have followed my career
and have followed me in whatever I've chosen to share
on social media, I think that they get a fuller
picture and they know that I love my daughters, I
love running. I am a passionate person who lives life
to the fullest and uses her time to pursue joy.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Call comes from Disney today. They want you back in
the same capacity that you were in previously. How long
do you need to decide and call them back?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
The first person I would call would be you, and
it would Matt. It would I would need to know
what the job.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Was, same same thing, coming back to the exact same role.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But would you be there with me? No, then the
answer would be no. That wouldn't take me long at all.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I am with you. It's a different answer.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I would need to discuss it with you, and I
would need we would need at least twenty four hours
to think about that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Would you have ever left that job?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I would almost certainly have not chosen to leave the
job that I had because it was a dream job.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Did you ever, at any point your ABC career get
close to leaving voluntarily?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I considered it after the hot mic incident where I
was talking about my frustrations about not getting to air
a piece I had had and had worked on about
Jeffrey Epstein, and when I was taken off the air
for a bit or at least just not asked to
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be on the show for a month, I considered leaving.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, who is someone that stands out to you that
you are actually shocked that you have not heard from
still since all this happened.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Who have I not heard from since this all happened
that I'm shocked by? I don't know if I want
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But you do have something in mine? Yes, but you I.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Don't want to call this person out.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I give us Obviously you would be able to say
it to me but in private. But is there nothing
you can say about who this person was or where
they were in your life without actually given giving away
whould Actually I.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Would just say there are people who I worked with
every single day, who I thought I was close to,
who then showed me who they really were When They
didn't check in ever, not.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Once outside of me. What relationship in your life is
better after all this happened than it was before all
this happened?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
My mom and dad?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What relationship is worse after all this happened than it was?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Two friendships?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But those two friendships still exist?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, they're gone, so.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That doesn't count.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It was because of all of this.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, But that relationship is not worse, is non existent.
So what relationship do you still have that still exists
that is a struggle now versus what it was before?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Right now, in this moment, a relationship that is worse
because of all of this? I believe right now there
were ones that took hits along the way, But right now,
in this moment, there's no relationship that I currently have
that is worse because of what happened. I think, well,
I know all of them are now currently better than
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they were.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You spoke a moment ago about what people think. How
important is it to you what people think of you?
Not privately but on a larger public way.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It matters to me.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I have always and I wish that it didn't, but
it does. I have always wanted to.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Be liked, to be respected, to be someone that someone
looks up to. Yes, so it does.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Matter a lot. That's in all of us. I guess
you're not alone in that. I'm saying. Is there something
you can think of that you should or could say?
I am sorry to your pan parents about for your
behavior from birth through college graduation, so essentially when you
were still under their care. There anything you would okay,
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I'm sorry or apologize to them for.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Sure, Mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I am sorry for my selfish attitude as a teenager.
I am sorry for sneaking out almost every weekend when
you grounded me. I am sorry for not understanding how
hard it is to be a parent and to not
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give them. I didn't give them the grace to just
be humans. I wanted them to be perfect, and I
was angry when they weren't. I am sorry for.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This is up until college, you said, Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I am sorry for all the back talking I did.
I think that doesn't come as a surprise to you.
And I'm sorry for all the doors I slammed. I
think we're good.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It was absolutely the most, the funniest and most tragic
story I've heard from anyone's childhood is that your dad
told me the story of it sounds crazy, all the
doors I slammed, but her dad actually, to punish her,
removed her door from the hinges and she did not
have a door your entire senior year of high school?
(10:26):
Do I have that story right?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That is correct? And I will give you the lead
up to that. So when I have a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Temper and when I get angry, I slammed doors when
I was younger. I don't do that anymore, obviously, but
when I was younger, it was my one thing I
could do, and I would just get upstairs and slam
my door. So my parents, as a punishment would make
me open and close the door nicely, quietly, fifty times
fifty This happened a couple of times, and on forty nine,
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when I got to fifty, on my fiftieth one, I
would slam it. And so I did that, I believe twice.
And that is it for my dad. He removed my door.
True story, And my dad told you it so, oh
yeah earlier.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He's actually really proud of it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So many things start to make sense, don't they. Amn
Are you were you nervous about the impression you were
going to make on my parents?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Oh? Absolutely, yes, I was nervous.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I was very nervous about what they would think of me,
And yeah, I definitely was.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Did you prepare in some way for it?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, I just I just leaned into my like, I
am who I am. I can't be anything other than
who I am, and so I'm just gonna be me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You didn't ask for advice from anyone. You didn't read
up on the civil rights movement or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Wait, you made fun of me. I was watching a
movie on a plane. I was coming back from something
right before I met them, this thing you made fun
of me.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yet, Wait, it was something. It was a really black movie.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You were with your parents already and I happened to watch.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It was some black movie that I hadn't seen before,
and I just saw it on the plane. It was
not timed in any way to meeting your parents, and
you called me out on it and were making fun
of me, as if I was doing that to prepare
to meet your parents.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It is.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I wish I can remember which movie it was.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I'm joking. It wasn't as bad as soul playing, y'all.
I'm kidding something it was.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It wasn't Boomerang because I've already seen that, but it
was something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It was like a heavy movie like it was. It
was a Spike Lee movie. I knew I was going
to come up with it. It was Do the Right Thing,
you know what. I had never seen it, and I got.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Worried, well, because you hadn't seen Do the Right Thing.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I've interviewed Spike before, and I was so nervous,
and I remember being mad at myself that I hadn't
watched it beforehand. I wasn't talking to him about that movie,
but I thought, my god, how can I interview Spike
Lee and not have seen that. So it was always
in the back of my mind. And when I was
on a plane, I saw it was not timing it
out with meeting her parents, and I happened to watch
it and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm okay, I'm going off my list here a little bit.
Have you seen Roots?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
No, I was young when it came out. What year
did that come out?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I was a young girl?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, we know, we know.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay, on my list, you know, I'm I'm gonna stop there,
but up next we are going to get a little
more personal, including about our relationship and the questioning is
going to start with a spelling bee. Stay here. Great,
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all right, we are back here with the Q and
a TJ interviewing Roebock. Right now, we left off talking
about roots, soul plaining, do the right thing, and some
watching we need to do over the weekend. Yes, but
I'll continue with the line of questioning here. Next question
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is can you spell lutilius?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'm going to write it out as I say it.
L o U t E l I o U s
what you had to spell it out?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I mean you had to write it.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
That made me feel more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, I do that with Roebock as well.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm a visual person.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
When was the first time you looked at me in
a non friend zone way?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I believe that we were walking back.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
From have dinner with friends, and on the walk back
you walk me back. I felt something different in the
way we were looking at each other.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I know that exact time you're talking about. I know
exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We didn't say anything. I didn't say anything, you didn't
say anything, but I felt something.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We had That was a fun night. That was I
remember that. Okay, we made a stop. Yes, given your experience,
your life experience, your love experience. What advice would you
give to someone regarding the reasons to get married again.
I don't want you to say, hey, don't get not
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reasons not to reasons to get married.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The reasons to get married when someone enhances your life,
you come to the union as a full, fully formed person.
I don't think people can plead each other. I think
they enhance each other. And so if you can find
that person. If you're looking for someone to complete you,
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I think it's the expectations end up killing so much
so if you can actually find someone who enhances who
you are, who brings out the best in you, and
who makes you want to be a better person, those
are all really good reasons to get married. And then
finding that person, of course, it's not going to be perfect.
You have to be willing to recognize that you're not
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always going to get along and not always you can't
have this rom com version of what you think a
marriage should look like. You have to go in with
real expectations. But once you realize that you want to
be with that person through the good times and through
the really tough times, is that the person you want
in the foxhole with you, is that the person you
can lean on when things aren't going well. And I
think when you can find a partnership like that, I
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want a partner in life. I have always wanted that.
I think that's why I've kept trying. And I do
believe there is something so beautiful about coming together with
someone and choosing to be with someone and loving someone.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think, I think I've heard this.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If you like someone, it's because if you love someone,
it's in spite of But that idea of loving someone
as much as you love yourself, perhaps even greater than
you love yourself. That idea of sacrifice, that idea of
giving instead of getting, I love that, and it enhances
your life to have a partner. I mean, there's nothing
I want more, I think than that. I want that
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for my children. I want that for my daughters.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
All right, So, again, giving your experience, what advice would
you now give to someone regarding reasons to stay or
not stay in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Who you stay in a relationship, it's worth fighting for
if you have mutual respect for each other. I do
believe that love becomes a choice. It's not always just
this feeling where you're like, oh my god, I'm so
in love with him. And it's that that comes and goes,
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that that's cyclical. It's when you find someone who you
can respect and like and are friends with. If you
can go through life laughing with someone, friends with someone,
even if you're angry at them and you're mad at them,
and things may go and events may happen, and they
may do things that really upset you and anger you.
But I think if you have that mutual respect, you
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stay and you go if I think it's a really tough, tough,
tough call to make, But when there are more I
really think it comes down to when you lose respect
for someone, I don't know that you can get it back.
And if you don't like doing basic things with him,
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I think those are big red flags. But respect would
be the number one thing. When you lose respect for someone,
I think it's really hard to stay in a marriage.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Can you tell me a bad health habit that you
have right now that you'd like to break.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Bad health habit that I would like to break. I'm
working on it. French fries. I love French fries and
eating French fries and fried food, fried food.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm gonna go the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That is one of my biggest health habits that I
am working on getting rid of. There's nothing good that
comes from eating fried food.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Is there a bad health habit that I have that
you would like for me to break?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
M well, sleeping, lack thereof acting.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think you recognized it now, and you've come a
long way from when I first we're friends with you.
I think you I don't know. I feel like you
did not prioritize sleep, and so the more sleep you get,
the healthier you are. I want you to live as
long as possible, and so I would like you to
sleep even more than you do.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
When do you think race has shown up in our relationship?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It doesn't show up that often, but I'm trying to
think when it has. It In a recent fight, it has,
and we're still working through that.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
We've talked about how.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I react, how you react differently to things and people
based on experiences, and I think I have learned even
more than I ever could have seeing the world through
as much as you can show me.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Obviously, I can't walk into your body and know what
it's like. But I have seen seen things and heard
things differently because you've experienced them, and I'm standing by
your side. So in a week we've had these conversations
and it's been incredibly I opening to me in a
lot of ways. So it's been a part of our relationship.
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It doesn't take center stage, but it's something I think
we mostly I don't think we want to laugh at it,
but we keep it lighter. But there have been heavy moments.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Can you tell one You've said things you've learned, but
can you think of something you have learned regarding black
folks black experience dating a black man that you did
not know until you got into this with me.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I hear things that friends or family might say that
before I was dating you, I wouldn't have considered offensive
that Now I see r when people are trying to
when white people and I know who they are, and
I know they're not bad people, but are kind of
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desperate to connect make bad choices in making everything that
they say to you about black things, and it's embarrassing
now to hear it. I think you know most of
the time it comes from a good place, but it's
still so hard to listen to now that I know
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how you experience that where you're singled out and you're
treated differently.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do you think it matters to your family whether or
not we get married.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think they would like us to get married. That's
they are religious people. They are Catholic. And here's the thing.
My parents have an amazing marriage fifty five no, sorry,
fifty years, whoops, fifty years and because they have seen
all the good that comes out of that type of
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commitment and weathering storms, they want that from me.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So, yes, they do want us to get married.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But you said you think so, but they've stated so,
and not just a matter.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Of when I have said, this is the person I
want to spend the rest of my life with. I
don't know for sure if that means us legally getting married,
but it's on the table. My parents had a very
positive response, right, well, that's so good to hear they
want that for me and you and us.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Do you think about us missing out on having kids?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, And what do you think.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I see your parenting style and it's very similar to mine,
And that is a gift if any of you all
out there, any of you out there, have a shared
parenting style with your partner that makes life h so
much easier or at least a little bit easier, and
it feels good to have a similar mode of operation
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when it comes to what we want for our kids,
what we want to teach them. And what I love
about you is that you're willing to let your child
not like you in the moment to teach them a
lesson to do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So yes, I have multiple times been a little sad
that we did not come together at a time where
we could have had that option.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I asked you, do you think it matters to your
family if we get married? Do you think it matters
in any aspect publicly whether or not we get married.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I think people are always rooting for love, and in
this culture, in this society, that usually ends with a wedding.
So I do think that people who are rooting for
us are rooting for marriage. Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
All right, up next, folks, chapstick, tattoos, necklaces, cooking. When
we come back, I're back with the final installment here,
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Q and A with robes and TJ. I will pick
right up with these will be on just a variety
of things, and most of it lighter, fair, but thank god,
how long Have you had this chapstick addiction for.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
As long as I can remember, as long as I think?
It started for me when I was seven or eight
and for Christmas, Santa Claus brought me.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Do you all remember?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It came in a candy cane, clear candy cane case,
and there were soda chapsticks, so doctor pepper, Coca Cola
A and w root beer. Doctor pepper was my absolute favorite.
And I think that was the moment, probably at eight,
where I became addicted to chapstick.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you have any intention of getting any more tattoos?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
What are you getting?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I don't know yet, but I would only get a
tattoo at this point probably.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I mean, I never want to say never, but my thinking.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Is that I would get another tattoo with you, and
we have an idea and we're considering it, and I'm
considering it all right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Do you ever want to publicly reveal the significance of
that chain and pendent around you neck?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'm not hiding it and I have no problem revealing it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, Well, so hold on to that one at some point.
Does it are you comfortable? Does it make you uneasy?
I know you like the food, but is there any
issue with me doing all the cooking?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I love when you cook.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's a strange thing for me because I spent the
first I don't know up until last year doing all
the cooking. So I'm actually relieved and happy that you
love to cook. Cooking was always obligatory for me, and
I did it because I had to, and it was
more of a chore than something that I love to do.
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And I see the love you have for it, so
I'm more than happy to abdicate. But I do feel
a little guilty about it because I'm used to doing it,
So there's like a guilty part of me that feels
like he shouldn't be doing it all.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I should be I should be stepping up.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Do you fear that breast cancer or something related to
it will be the thing that gets you in the end.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yes, I do. I fear that I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, I hate to admit this, but I don't think
a day goes by or I don't think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
What was the funniest or most absurd thing you read
about yourself the past year?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh? Wow, where do I begin?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh my gosh, this is hard because I'm trying to
think about all the barbs that were thrown my way.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I don't know if it was funny or absurd.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That I basically had like an open bar in my
dressing room. That was absurd and completely not true. That
made me I did actually laugh at that, because I
had a couple bottles of wine in my refrigerator that
were given to me by my bosses, So that actually
made me laugh. I just thought that was hilarious. And gosh,
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there have been so many. I'd have to think about
what some of the silly things were. Can you remember
any See you look at me trying to interview you.
All right, Well, if something else comes to my mind,
I'll bring it up. But that one stands out.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
How many sets about air pods have you lost?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Okay? So it doesn't lie.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
When I look at my Bluetooth and it says my
current AirPods, it says Amy AirPod six.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay. Why does your brother keep getting goats?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He is really enjoying farm life in Athens, Georgia. He
is a doctor, and I think it's just such a
high stress job. Coming back home and being a gentleman
farmer of sorts gives him just the peace of being
one with the land, and he really likes goats. He
keeps getting more and then they keep having babies.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
They're really cute, as cute as a goat can be.
What is the thing I do that annoys you most.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Oh, that's easy. You pop your right elbow.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's it a lot? Oh my god, I'm doing any great.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's multiple times a day, three tops. Okay, fine, it's
three times a day.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
That annoys you most well.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay, that's on the silly side, on the deeper side,
on the deeper side.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And you already know this. I think you already know
the answer. When you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Don't talk to me when you're quiet, I like to talk,
but maybe I should like to listen more, and then
you'd talk more. Why are you doing that not talking thing?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Waiting for you to fill the void?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Because you know I will, yes, because silence makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Is do you find that in order to live out
your life with someone, it's necessary for those two people
to live together.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't think it's necessary, but I would prefer it.
But I've seen plenty of people who love having a
partner and having their own apartment and it works for them.
I crave connection. I don't need a lot of alone time,
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but I respect someone who does. And I do think
it's possible to have a life partner who you don't
live with, but I wouldn't prefer it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
What are you concerned after this Q and A that
is going to be manipulated for a negative headline to
attack you or me?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I actually try not to overthink about what I mean.
I know it's there and it's in the back of
my mind, and it makes me nervous generally that anything
I say kenan will be used against me in a twisted,
out of context way, because it's happened time and time again,
and I found it to be kind of fascinating that
I won't even know the things that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
They'll pull out. Like I do look at the headlines.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I don't necessarily read the body, but sometimes it's a
head scratcher, like that's.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
What they jumped on, that's what they said. So I
honestly don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm kind of surprised every time I do see headlines
and see how they twist them, and so I kind
of don't want to think about it too much because
I don't want to edit who I am or me
being honest and open.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Last two things here. One, what do you want for
your birthday?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I want?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I want my friends around me. I want there to
be a celebration of life. I have always been a
big believer that birthdays are important, and I love when
people are loud and proud about how old they are,
because that is something to be grateful for. Every single
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year you get is a gift. So I really do
think it's nice to be able to take a day
and celebrate, not necessarily yourself, but just that you get
to be here, and you get to live another life,
and you get another year, hopefully on this planet. So
I just I like to mark time like that. So
what I want for my birthday is joy. I want celebration,
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I want friends, and oh my gosh, I'll be able
to have a glass of champagne.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I meant. More so, like, what do I need to
go buy?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know that you don't want me to tell you
what to get me. You know what, You're a really
good gift giver if even if.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You told me, I wouldn't go get it. Actually, that's right.
And last question, where do you want your third wedding
to be?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Justice of the piece Vegas.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Wait, which one?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Either one? Maybe super.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That's where you want to have it?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Mmm, my third wedding, I really would want it to
be a very intimate gathering, and I would absolutely run
off an envelope somewhere. I think that's probably if I
had to pick, I'd pick eloping and going to Fiji
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or somewhere really nice and far away.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, you really want to get away?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And ma'm is there anything we didn't talk about that
you wish you had gotten an opportunity to say?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I think you covered everything well.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Thank you so much for your time, ma'am, and good
luck for you down the road. We wish you well.
Bye bye now, folks, Oh that wasn't too bad for you?
What threw you?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
It was good? Yeah, that's the first time you've ever
interviewed me.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Won't be the last. Folks. You can find us, we've said.
We are now officially on TikTok. The show is. You
could find Robot and I individually. Also you can find
us on Instagram at Amy and TJ podcast, but we
have our individual Instagram pages as well. So thanks for listening.
Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast. Amen TJ. Here we
are going to chance to interview each other. Robot sitting
next to me now, and what I can't remember what
your answer was when you interviewed me. Are you someone
who prefers to ask the questions or do you like
being interviewed?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I always like asking the questions more than answering them.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, Well, with that said, I'm about to ask you
a series of questions and folks, just so you know,
we have not so we didn't. She has no idea
what I'm about to ask her, what direction any of
this is going to go? And with that, here we go.
Why haven't you done an interview before? Now, since all
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this went down, you haven't spoken? Haven't done an interview?
Why not?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Because I know as a journalist, when you give your
story to someone else, you then put your story in
their hands. They can edit it, they can change meanings,
they can change context. And after everything that I've experienced
being on the other side of the headlines, instead of
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reporting them, I became them, I knew what can happen
when you give your story or you give an interview
to someone else. It can be misconstrued and I was
not interested in doing that. I wanted to tell my
own story.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Was you do it live?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yes, I would have if I had been with someone
who I trusted. The problem is, and I don't mind
answering questions that I don't know ahead of time. Clearly
here we are right now doing it. But I wanted
it to be the right time, and it wasn't the
right time yet. I wanted things to quiet down. I
didn't want there to be all of the mayhem that
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was surrounding us be a part.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Of the question do you think you're ready now?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think that I would be ready.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I still believe that with everything that you and I
want to say, it's better to have our own platform
in our own home, because I do still feel a
massive distrust for the industry that I once worked.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You say everything you and you want to say it
was is you want to say.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've been saying it. I just want to set the
record straight. I think our narrative, I know, I don't think.
I know that our narrative was stolen from us, and
unfortunately many people still believe what they read. And so yes,
I would still and I'm going to and we're going
to still speak out and.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Speak up about it, but I'd prefer to do it
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Do you have so you have at this point no
plans were doing an interview.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I don't have any plans right now, but I wouldn't.
I wouldn't at this point. I wouldn't say no. If
the right opportunity came up and the right person asked,
I would likely say yes.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Pick someone. Who would it be the one person to
do one interview with you?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Hoe to copy Savannah Go three.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I've known them, I love them, I worked with them.
I trust them probably more than any other two journalists
because I know them.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You might you're gonna do that on solo?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, you were just asking who I would pick. We
would obviously have to have a larger conversation about that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I mean, I'm cool. I mean, Savannah's fine with that. Oda,
that's sus I don't know. I'm kidding Oda. You know
I love you. What do you think the general consensus is?
What do you think people think of you?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Wow? The people who know me, That's not what.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm talking about. The people who general in general, general
consensus from the public. What do you think people think
of you? Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't know the answer to that, I think that
I mean, if they believe the tabloids, they think I'm
a cheater and a home wrecker.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And all these awful things.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And I think if they actually have followed my career
and have followed me in whatever I've chosen to share
on social media, I think that they get a fuller
picture and they know that I love my daughters, I
love running. I am a passionate person who lives life
to the fullest and uses her time to pursue joy.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Call comes from Disney today. They want you back in
the same capacity that you were in previously. How long
do you need to decide and call them back?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
The first person I would call would be you, and
it would Matt. It would I would need to know
what the job.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Was, same same thing, coming back to the exact same role.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But would you be there with me? No, then the
answer would be no. That wouldn't take me long at all.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I am with you. It's a different answer.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I would need to discuss it with you, and I
would need we would need at least twenty four hours
to think about that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Would you have ever left that job?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I would almost certainly have not chosen to leave the
job that I had because it was a dream job.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Did you ever, at any point your ABC career get
close to leaving voluntarily?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I considered it after the hot mic incident where I
was talking about my frustrations about not getting to air
a piece I had had and had worked on about
Jeffrey Epstein, and when I was taken off the air
for a bit or at least just not asked to
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be on the show for a month, I considered leaving.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, who is someone that stands out to you that
you are actually shocked that you have not heard from
still since all this happened.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Who have I not heard from since this all happened
that I'm shocked by? I don't know if I want
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But you do have something in mine? Yes, but you I.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Don't want to call this person out.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I give us Obviously you would be able to say
it to me but in private. But is there nothing
you can say about who this person was or where
they were in your life without actually given giving away
whould Actually I.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Would just say there are people who I worked with
every single day, who I thought I was close to,
who then showed me who they really were When They
didn't check in ever, not.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Once outside of me. What relationship in your life is
better after all this happened than it was before all
this happened?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
My mom and dad?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What relationship is worse after all this happened than it was?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Two friendships?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But those two friendships still exist?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, they're gone, so.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That doesn't count.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It was because of all of this.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, But that relationship is not worse, is non existent.
So what relationship do you still have that still exists
that is a struggle now versus what it was before?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Right now, in this moment, a relationship that is worse
because of all of this? I believe right now there
were ones that took hits along the way, But right now,
in this moment, there's no relationship that I currently have
that is worse because of what happened. I think, well,
I know all of them are now currently better than
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they were.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You spoke a moment ago about what people think. How
important is it to you what people think of you?
Not privately but on a larger public way.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It matters to me.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I have always and I wish that it didn't, but
it does. I have always wanted to.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Be liked, to be respected, to be someone that someone
looks up to. Yes, so it does.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Matter a lot. That's in all of us. I guess
you're not alone in that. I'm saying. Is there something
you can think of that you should or could say?
I am sorry to your pan parents about for your
behavior from birth through college graduation, so essentially when you
were still under their care. There anything you would okay,
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I'm sorry or apologize to them for.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Sure, Mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I am sorry for my selfish attitude as a teenager.
I am sorry for sneaking out almost every weekend when
you grounded me. I am sorry for not understanding how
hard it is to be a parent and to not
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give them. I didn't give them the grace to just
be humans. I wanted them to be perfect, and I
was angry when they weren't. I am sorry for.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This is up until college, you said, Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I am sorry for all the back talking I did.
I think that doesn't come as a surprise to you.
And I'm sorry for all the doors I slammed. I
think we're good.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It was absolutely the most, the funniest and most tragic
story I've heard from anyone's childhood is that your dad
told me the story of it sounds crazy, all the
doors I slammed, but her dad actually, to punish her,
removed her door from the hinges and she did not
have a door your entire senior year of high school?
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Do I have that story right?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That is correct? And I will give you the lead
up to that. So when I have a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Temper and when I get angry, I slammed doors when
I was younger. I don't do that anymore, obviously, but
when I was younger, it was my one thing I
could do, and I would just get upstairs and slam
my door. So my parents, as a punishment would make
me open and close the door nicely, quietly, fifty times
fifty This happened a couple of times, and on forty nine,
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when I got to fifty, on my fiftieth one, I
would slam it. And so I did that, I believe twice.
And that is it for my dad. He removed my door.
True story, And my dad told you it so, oh
yeah earlier.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He's actually really proud of it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So many things start to make sense, don't they. Amn
Are you were you nervous about the impression you were
going to make on my parents?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Oh? Absolutely, yes, I was nervous.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I was very nervous about what they would think of me,
And yeah, I definitely was.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Did you prepare in some way for it?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, I just I just leaned into my like, I
am who I am. I can't be anything other than
who I am, and so I'm just gonna be me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You didn't ask for advice from anyone. You didn't read
up on the civil rights movement or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Wait, you made fun of me. I was watching a
movie on a plane. I was coming back from something
right before I met them, this thing you made fun
of me.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yet, Wait, it was something. It was a really black movie.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You were with your parents already and I happened to watch.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It was some black movie that I hadn't seen before,
and I just saw it on the plane. It was
not timed in any way to meeting your parents, and
you called me out on it and were making fun
of me, as if I was doing that to prepare
to meet your parents.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It is.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I wish I can remember which movie it was.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I'm joking. It wasn't as bad as soul playing, y'all.
I'm kidding something it was.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It wasn't Boomerang because I've already seen that, but it
was something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It was like a heavy movie like it was. It
was a Spike Lee movie. I knew I was going
to come up with it. It was Do the Right Thing,
you know what. I had never seen it, and I got.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Worried, well, because you hadn't seen Do the Right Thing.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I've interviewed Spike before, and I was so nervous,
and I remember being mad at myself that I hadn't
watched it beforehand. I wasn't talking to him about that movie,
but I thought, my god, how can I interview Spike
Lee and not have seen that. So it was always
in the back of my mind. And when I was
on a plane, I saw it was not timing it
out with meeting her parents, and I happened to watch
it and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm okay, I'm going off my list here a little bit.
Have you seen Roots?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
No, I was young when it came out. What year
did that come out?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I was a young girl?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, we know, we know.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay, on my list, you know, I'm I'm gonna stop there,
but up next we are going to get a little
more personal, including about our relationship and the questioning is
going to start with a spelling bee. Stay here. Great,
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all right, we are back here with the Q and
a TJ interviewing Roebock. Right now, we left off talking
about roots, soul plaining, do the right thing, and some
watching we need to do over the weekend. Yes, but
I'll continue with the line of questioning here. Next question
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is can you spell lutilius?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'm going to write it out as I say it.
L o U t E l I o U s
what you had to spell it out?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I mean you had to write it.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
That made me feel more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, I do that with Roebock as well.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm a visual person.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
When was the first time you looked at me in
a non friend zone way?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I believe that we were walking back.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
From have dinner with friends, and on the walk back
you walk me back. I felt something different in the
way we were looking at each other.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I know that exact time you're talking about. I know
exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We didn't say anything. I didn't say anything, you didn't
say anything, but I felt something.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We had That was a fun night. That was I
remember that. Okay, we made a stop. Yes, given your experience,
your life experience, your love experience. What advice would you
give to someone regarding the reasons to get married again.
I don't want you to say, hey, don't get not
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reasons not to reasons to get married.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The reasons to get married when someone enhances your life,
you come to the union as a full, fully formed person.
I don't think people can plead each other. I think
they enhance each other. And so if you can find
that person. If you're looking for someone to complete you,
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I think it's the expectations end up killing so much
so if you can actually find someone who enhances who
you are, who brings out the best in you, and
who makes you want to be a better person, those
are all really good reasons to get married. And then
finding that person, of course, it's not going to be perfect.
You have to be willing to recognize that you're not
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always going to get along and not always you can't
have this rom com version of what you think a
marriage should look like. You have to go in with
real expectations. But once you realize that you want to
be with that person through the good times and through
the really tough times, is that the person you want
in the foxhole with you, is that the person you
can lean on when things aren't going well. And I
think when you can find a partnership like that, I
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want a partner in life. I have always wanted that.
I think that's why I've kept trying. And I do
believe there is something so beautiful about coming together with
someone and choosing to be with someone and loving someone.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think, I think I've heard this.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If you like someone, it's because if you love someone,
it's in spite of But that idea of loving someone
as much as you love yourself, perhaps even greater than
you love yourself. That idea of sacrifice, that idea of
giving instead of getting, I love that, and it enhances
your life to have a partner. I mean, there's nothing
I want more, I think than that. I want that
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for my children. I want that for my daughters.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
All right, So, again, giving your experience, what advice would
you now give to someone regarding reasons to stay or
not stay in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Who you stay in a relationship, it's worth fighting for
if you have mutual respect for each other. I do
believe that love becomes a choice. It's not always just
this feeling where you're like, oh my god, I'm so
in love with him. And it's that that comes and goes,
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that that's cyclical. It's when you find someone who you
can respect and like and are friends with. If you
can go through life laughing with someone, friends with someone,
even if you're angry at them and you're mad at them,
and things may go and events may happen, and they
may do things that really upset you and anger you.
But I think if you have that mutual respect, you
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stay and you go if I think it's a really tough, tough,
tough call to make, But when there are more I
really think it comes down to when you lose respect
for someone, I don't know that you can get it back.
And if you don't like doing basic things with him,
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I think those are big red flags. But respect would
be the number one thing. When you lose respect for someone,
I think it's really hard to stay in a marriage.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Can you tell me a bad health habit that you
have right now that you'd like to break.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Bad health habit that I would like to break. I'm
working on it. French fries. I love French fries and
eating French fries and fried food, fried food.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm gonna go the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That is one of my biggest health habits that I
am working on getting rid of. There's nothing good that
comes from eating fried food.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Is there a bad health habit that I have that
you would like for me to break?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
M well, sleeping, lack thereof acting.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think you recognized it now, and you've come a
long way from when I first we're friends with you.
I think you I don't know. I feel like you
did not prioritize sleep, and so the more sleep you get,
the healthier you are. I want you to live as
long as possible, and so I would like you to
sleep even more than you do.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
When do you think race has shown up in our relationship?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It doesn't show up that often, but I'm trying to
think when it has. It In a recent fight, it has,
and we're still working through that.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
We've talked about how.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I react, how you react differently to things and people
based on experiences, and I think I have learned even
more than I ever could have seeing the world through
as much as you can show me.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Obviously, I can't walk into your body and know what
it's like. But I have seen seen things and heard
things differently because you've experienced them, and I'm standing by
your side. So in a week we've had these conversations
and it's been incredibly I opening to me in a
lot of ways. So it's been a part of our relationship.
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It doesn't take center stage, but it's something I think
we mostly I don't think we want to laugh at it,
but we keep it lighter. But there have been heavy moments.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Can you tell one You've said things you've learned, but
can you think of something you have learned regarding black
folks black experience dating a black man that you did
not know until you got into this with me.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I hear things that friends or family might say that
before I was dating you, I wouldn't have considered offensive
that Now I see r when people are trying to
when white people and I know who they are, and
I know they're not bad people, but are kind of
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desperate to connect make bad choices in making everything that
they say to you about black things, and it's embarrassing
now to hear it. I think you know most of
the time it comes from a good place, but it's
still so hard to listen to now that I know
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how you experience that where you're singled out and you're
treated differently.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do you think it matters to your family whether or
not we get married.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think they would like us to get married. That's
they are religious people. They are Catholic. And here's the thing.
My parents have an amazing marriage fifty five no, sorry,
fifty years, whoops, fifty years and because they have seen
all the good that comes out of that type of
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commitment and weathering storms, they want that from me.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So, yes, they do want us to get married.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But you said you think so, but they've stated so,
and not just a matter.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Of when I have said, this is the person I
want to spend the rest of my life with. I
don't know for sure if that means us legally getting married,
but it's on the table. My parents had a very
positive response, right, well, that's so good to hear they
want that for me and you and us.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Do you think about us missing out on having kids?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, And what do you think.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I see your parenting style and it's very similar to mine,
And that is a gift if any of you all
out there, any of you out there, have a shared
parenting style with your partner that makes life h so
much easier or at least a little bit easier, and
it feels good to have a similar mode of operation
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when it comes to what we want for our kids,
what we want to teach them. And what I love
about you is that you're willing to let your child
not like you in the moment to teach them a
lesson to do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So yes, I have multiple times been a little sad
that we did not come together at a time where
we could have had that option.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I asked you, do you think it matters to your
family if we get married? Do you think it matters
in any aspect publicly whether or not we get married.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I think people are always rooting for love, and in
this culture, in this society, that usually ends with a wedding.
So I do think that people who are rooting for
us are rooting for marriage. Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
All right, up next, folks, chapstick, tattoos, necklaces, cooking. When
we come back, I're back with the final installment here,
(25:13):
Q and A with robes and TJ. I will pick
right up with these will be on just a variety
of things, and most of it lighter, fair, but thank god,
how long Have you had this chapstick addiction for.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
As long as I can remember, as long as I think?
It started for me when I was seven or eight
and for Christmas, Santa Claus brought me.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Do you all remember?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It came in a candy cane, clear candy cane case,
and there were soda chapsticks, so doctor pepper, Coca Cola
A and w root beer. Doctor pepper was my absolute favorite.
And I think that was the moment, probably at eight,
where I became addicted to chapstick.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you have any intention of getting any more tattoos?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
What are you getting?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I don't know yet, but I would only get a
tattoo at this point probably.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I mean, I never want to say never, but my thinking.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Is that I would get another tattoo with you, and
we have an idea and we're considering it, and I'm
considering it all right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Do you ever want to publicly reveal the significance of
that chain and pendent around you neck?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I'm not hiding it and I have no problem revealing it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, Well, so hold on to that one at some point.
Does it are you comfortable? Does it make you uneasy?
I know you like the food, but is there any
issue with me doing all the cooking?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I love when you cook.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's a strange thing for me because I spent the
first I don't know up until last year doing all
the cooking. So I'm actually relieved and happy that you
love to cook. Cooking was always obligatory for me, and
I did it because I had to, and it was
more of a chore than something that I love to do.
(27:08):
And I see the love you have for it, so
I'm more than happy to abdicate. But I do feel
a little guilty about it because I'm used to doing it,
So there's like a guilty part of me that feels
like he shouldn't be doing it all.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I should be I should be stepping up.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Do you fear that breast cancer or something related to
it will be the thing that gets you in the end.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yes, I do. I fear that I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, I hate to admit this, but I don't think
a day goes by or I don't think about that.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
What was the funniest or most absurd thing you read
about yourself the past year?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh? Wow, where do I begin?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh my gosh, this is hard because I'm trying to
think about all the barbs that were thrown my way.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I don't know if it was funny or absurd.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
That I basically had like an open bar in my
dressing room. That was absurd and completely not true. That
made me I did actually laugh at that, because I
had a couple bottles of wine in my refrigerator that
were given to me by my bosses, So that actually
made me laugh. I just thought that was hilarious. And gosh,
(28:26):
there have been so many. I'd have to think about
what some of the silly things were. Can you remember
any See you look at me trying to interview you.
All right, Well, if something else comes to my mind,
I'll bring it up. But that one stands out.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
How many sets about air pods have you lost?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Okay? So it doesn't lie.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
When I look at my Bluetooth and it says my
current AirPods, it says Amy AirPod six.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay. Why does your brother keep getting goats?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He is really enjoying farm life in Athens, Georgia. He
is a doctor, and I think it's just such a
high stress job. Coming back home and being a gentleman
farmer of sorts gives him just the peace of being
one with the land, and he really likes goats. He
keeps getting more and then they keep having babies.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
They're really cute, as cute as a goat can be.
What is the thing I do that annoys you most.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Oh, that's easy. You pop your right elbow.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's it a lot? Oh my god, I'm doing any great.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's multiple times a day, three tops. Okay, fine, it's
three times a day.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
That annoys you most well.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay, that's on the silly side, on the deeper side,
on the deeper side.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And you already know this. I think you already know
the answer. When you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Don't talk to me when you're quiet, I like to talk,
but maybe I should like to listen more, and then
you'd talk more. Why are you doing that not talking thing?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Waiting for you to fill the void?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Because you know I will, yes, because silence makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Is do you find that in order to live out
your life with someone, it's necessary for those two people
to live together.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't think it's necessary, but I would prefer it.
But I've seen plenty of people who love having a
partner and having their own apartment and it works for them.
I crave connection. I don't need a lot of alone time,
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but I respect someone who does. And I do think
it's possible to have a life partner who you don't
live with, but I wouldn't prefer it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
What are you concerned after this Q and A that
is going to be manipulated for a negative headline to
attack you or me?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I actually try not to overthink about what I mean.
I know it's there and it's in the back of
my mind, and it makes me nervous generally that anything
I say kenan will be used against me in a twisted,
out of context way, because it's happened time and time again,
and I found it to be kind of fascinating that
I won't even know the things that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
They'll pull out. Like I do look at the headlines.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I don't necessarily read the body, but sometimes it's a
head scratcher, like that's.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
What they jumped on, that's what they said. So I
honestly don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm kind of surprised every time I do see headlines
and see how they twist them, and so I kind
of don't want to think about it too much because
I don't want to edit who I am or me
being honest and open.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Last two things here. One, what do you want for
your birthday?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I want?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I want my friends around me. I want there to
be a celebration of life. I have always been a
big believer that birthdays are important, and I love when
people are loud and proud about how old they are,
because that is something to be grateful for. Every single
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year you get is a gift. So I really do
think it's nice to be able to take a day
and celebrate, not necessarily yourself, but just that you get
to be here, and you get to live another life,
and you get another year, hopefully on this planet. So
I just I like to mark time like that. So
what I want for my birthday is joy. I want celebration,
(32:56):
I want friends, and oh my gosh, I'll be able
to have a glass of champagne.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I meant. More so, like, what do I need to
go buy?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know that you don't want me to tell you
what to get me. You know what, You're a really
good gift giver if even if.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You told me, I wouldn't go get it. Actually, that's right.
And last question, where do you want your third wedding
to be?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Justice of the piece Vegas.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Wait, which one?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Either one? Maybe super.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That's where you want to have it?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Mmm, my third wedding, I really would want it to
be a very intimate gathering, and I would absolutely run
off an envelope somewhere. I think that's probably if I
had to pick, I'd pick eloping and going to Fiji
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or somewhere really nice and far away.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, you really want to get away?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And ma'm is there anything we didn't talk about that
you wish you had gotten an opportunity to say?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I think you covered everything well.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Thank you so much for your time, ma'am, and good
luck for you down the road. We wish you well.
Bye bye now, folks, Oh that wasn't too bad for you?
What threw you?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
It was good? Yeah, that's the first time you've ever
interviewed me.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Won't be the last. Folks. You can find us, we've said.
We are now officially on TikTok. The show is. You
could find Robot and I individually. Also you can find
us on Instagram at Amy and TJ podcast, but we
have our individual Instagram pages as well. So thanks for listening.
Hosts And Creators
Amy Robach
T.J. Holmes
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