April 17, 2025 • 58 mins
It's a Desperate Housewives and Glee mashup!
Jenna and Kevin welcome their bestie actress Andrea Bowen to the pod! The best buds swap stories about their experiences growing up in front of the camera on hit shows, what Kevin learned from Andrea about interacting with fans, the time Andrea's brother was Jenna's first date (yes, we get all the deets), and you won't gleeking believe it! Andrea reveals she auditioned for Glee! She breaks down her experience, including the tune she sang!
Plus, Andrea talks about her time on Desperate Housewives, including her relationship with on-screen mom Teri Hatcher and finding out about the show's cancellation with the rest of the world.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to you, and That's what You Really miss podcast.
Hello Kevin, Hello Jenna.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Today we have one of our best friends.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's crazy how we both know her separately and then
have come together in this way and still I don't know,
it's really crazy. We could talk for hours. She's amazing.
Andrea Bowen is here. She was, She's been a musical
theater girl since it's literally out of the womb. But
then you know, made her way to from the Broadway
(00:42):
to the screen as Julia and Desperate House has and
she's still just a gem of a human.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
She's just getting better, right every year?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, getting better.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
She's the best. So we have Andrea Bowen, one of
my favorite people in the entire world.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Also one of my favorite people in Kevin, what what
about It?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And Jenna and I. When we first started the show,
she was one of the like people we talked about, like,
at some point we have to get Andrea on here.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We know Andrea separately, separately, the thing, Yeah, separately, So
I guess I know Andrew longer.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Kevin, Yes, you have whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I feel like I've done, Andrew, since she like had
baby teeth, like baby teeth together.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You know, I was trying to remember when we first met,
and I was thinking, when did you do King?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And I ninety five?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Okay, so i've born I would have been five.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, okay, so this is around the time. Definitely a baby.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, you were both on Broadway as babies.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, yes, but Andrew was like, really baby, she was
like the youngest cosette you know Cosetta on Broadway ever?
And you had been yes today, thank you. You are
the tiniest little thing like you were five of you
looked even smaller. You were so tiny and so cute.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I actually fell into the bucket that young said is
supposed to push onto the stage because it was I
was so small that I fell into it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I was like, oh, the audience is going to feel
so sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm so helpless. Like this is crazy. Wait how old
were you when you did.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So? I I think I just turned six. Oh my god,
it is crazy. It is crazy, Like who allowed it?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And your parents seem so normal. I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
They are normal.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They are normal.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They're lovely and normal.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And they didn't help me better.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, we could talk forever. We literally have everything
to talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I met Andrea when I was seventeen yep, probably yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I was still five.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yes, still five. My friend Justin and I ran into
Andrea and Addison mm hmm at Walking Bookang Puck at
city Walk stop and we were like, they're cute, and
somehow we started talking to them and I did a
fake British accent for two hours, Kevin, because.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
We hung out after we were like hung out at
bookingg Puck and then went and got like fro Yo
or something as teens in la at city walk.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, And I don't know why I did that. I
don't know what out of my mind. And then I
didn't see you again for like a year or something.
And we ran and we ran into each other at
Ali and aj Sweet sixteen party.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well it joined sweet sixteen and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yes you're right, Okay, yes, you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And it was at oh.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
My god, Andrea, not being one to hold her tongue,
come sees me like ordering like something at the bar
and it's like, hmm, this is not like you have
a British accent anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I was like oh at that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Point I was very scared of confrontation and it's not
like I am.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now no, no, no. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So it also made me admire her, like like her
even more.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Because they were like each other. Yes, And was were
you on Desperate at that point, Andrew? Or are you
just having what you were out here?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was? I was, So I started. I started Desperate
Housewives when I was thirteen, and so by the time
I was sixteen maybe, so she.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Was a star by the time she met me. Oh,
just just she was very famous.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And yeah, so I'd probably been doing it for four
years at that point. I don't try to figure it
out by what color was my hair? Was my hair blonde?
When we met Kevin?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know either.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I don't know. That's how I tell time in my
career is like, what was I did that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We talked about up into seasons? Yeah, like, oh was
that during season two or season four?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Because we ate how many seasons?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Six? At? How many did you guys have?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We had eight?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And that was you know, and it was crazy too
because you guys probably were also you were on during
the first writer strike.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We came were a result of the writer strikes. So
we came right after.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Wow, okay, so we had our writer strike, but that
was like that affected our season five. I think, so
that was before, but it was when they did the
five year jump into the future.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We came back from the writer strike and we all
felt like five years had passed, but then five years.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Hair color change for me.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
They were like, she's fad redhead.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yes, fun, yeah, a full adult all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, yes, yeah, I think I dated a teacher. I
came back and then I was dating a teacher at college.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You know Scandalsh show was scandals.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean your show was gotten really yes, you so
you started that show at thirteen, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I was twenty when it started Glee, but like that's
very different. The thirteen to twenty or twenty three three
three is very different than thirteen and your show even
more than our show, like blew up from the get go.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I mean, I don't know if more. It was a
very big juggernaut success.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But like it got there. I remember Desperate, like everyone
remembers where they were Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, it was a wild experience too, because I had
done a series the year prior and another ABC show
that unfortunately nobody knows about, but it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Was a great show.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It was just it was called that was then, and
it was an ABC hour long show that was a
little bit ahead of its time. It dealt with time
travel and it was dark, dark comedy, and people weren't
really doing dark comedies at that time. And anyway, we
we shot the pilot, we got great feedback, it got
picked up.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
We shot eight episodes, they aired two episodes.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh my god, back then when they would just stop
airing the shows after.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, but anyway, and so that was like my I
had done that. And then the following pilot season, I
got Desperate Housewives and you know.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Rushing it by the way, do you know, like where
it is to just get one show?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Picked up?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean, I I am aware. It was a wild
I'm so grateful that that was my experience coming out
here from New York.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Like, yes, how are you when you moved here from
New York?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, I moved here for that first series, so.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was kind of a soft move.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So I was twelve, and then we went back to
work though I know, right I was workshopping a show
in New York. A musical.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
This I don't know if I mean, I was like,
I don't know if I can talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was what twenties years ago anyway, but it was
a really cool idea.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It was a Disney workshop, oh fun.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And it was a combination of a bunch of different
Disney shows woven stories, so the music all of these
different amazing iconic Disney songs, but forming its own story.
It was a very.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh my god, let's get that back.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I know, I know, which is really cool. So I
had to go back because I was doing that, and we.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Thought that was going to go to Broadway, and so
we were like, oh, let's stick with this.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And then and then when the show was canceled, I
was like, Okay, we're going to stay in New York.
And then we came back out for another.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Pilot of season, which was wow.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And Yeah, I happened fast, like we knew after the
first episode aired. I think we were number one.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That week, I think. So. I think I remember that
because I was obsessed with numbers and yeah, yeah, Nerd, Yeah,
that's why we're friends. I know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I can say that because I also am yes. And
then they told us I think week two that we had.
We had stronger numbers than Law and Order, and we
were all like, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
My ol, what a comparison was.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like, you guys came literally came in like a wrecking ball.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You just wow, Wow, what a time?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Could you do that? Because you were still shooting the season, yes,
and so we.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Could feel it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think it's it's interesting because it's like sometimes you
hear about shows that just kind of come out strong
and people, you know, cast or the crew says like, yeah,
we had no idea, like we were doing something, but
we had no idea people were going to re on
that way. And it's not that we knew that it
was going to be the success that it became. It's
we felt something magical when we were filming.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
The pilot, all of us did.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We were like, something's different happening here. And it was
like a bunch of pieces that came together to create
this magic. And then we were obviously very very happy
that people responded the way they did. I don't think
we knew it was going to do what it did,
for that was unprecedented.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Predict that going to be the biggest show immediately.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, so we knew it was special. We
knew it was really good. We we had hoped that
people would watch it, but I don't think we had.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Any and you hope just to like have enough viewers
to like keep going for a little Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Did you guys? Did you know that it was gonna
pop up?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But we had a very similar feeling of like we
just had so much fun the pilot and our sort
of gauge for the I guess specialness of it was
from the crew or a lot of them would tell
us like they were enjoying it just as much as
we were, and they would tell us like this isn't normal,
like this is so nice, but it was a musical
(11:17):
like those historically had terrible track record.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, so on the back of our.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Heads was like we're enjoying it. Yeah, Like so many
shows have talented people and talented writers and crews and
they just don't hold the media.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It is also like didn't have like we had nowhere
withal to know what, Like we didn't know a greenlight,
like getting greenlit mean men and like getting picked up
men and then early so I didn't but.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I didn't really Fox exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
All these Fox exacts would like show up on said,
and like we had like everybody showing up to our
pilot and our crew was like Fox execs don't show
up to a pilot and nless they know there's something happening,
you know what I mean. So we definitely had like
heard from people with experience that this was different than
(12:09):
the rest.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Curious because I was trying to remember what Ryan Murphy
had done before Glee, Like what were his bigger nip
tuk nip tuk?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Of course, you know, I did Niptok, what you did?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I did? I was cut out. I'm on, I'm on
Season one DVD bonus.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh my god, I was.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
It was the same period of time.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think it was between shooting a pilot of Housewives
and before our first season started and I did an
episode of Niptok. I was playing a very young girl
obviously who was getting a press reduction.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh my gosh, damn.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You just couldn't help it, get it. You walk into
an audition and we're like, yes, you miss remember auditions
like a month ago?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And no, was it weird and nerve wracking?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Or I didn't make eye contact with anybody else in.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The waiting room or in the room.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Both I can't get it. I don't know why. It
was refreshing to go in. Actually it was like it
was like two pages. It was like an easy thing, great,
and it was I had a really nice time, just
like chatting with the castic director. It was like, it's
nice to be out of the house. Yeah, this is nice.
(13:31):
But I wanted to ask you because how Jenna said,
when we were shooting the pilot, none of us knew
anything about anything except Jane. But we also weren't that
close with her yet, right, you were surrounded by like
TV veterans and also your TV mama yea Terry Hatcher
is a TV legend. Yes, and so I imagine obviously
(13:56):
you're still super close with her and she's very protective
of you. Yes, if like during that time, her or
you know, the other cast who had been doing this
for a while, could sort of give you the perspective
of like, this isn't normal, like this is crazy, yeah,
or you know, or what they said about what's happening.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think there was a lot of uh, this isn't
normal conversations happening, Like people were saying in our cast
was saying, this is unusual, and uh, these are good signs,
but like this is this is not not normal, Terry.
I think Terry and I we bonded so quickly. We
(14:41):
were it was it was really sweet. We met for
the first time, not until the table read. We met
at the table head wow, And which is kind of
crazy because ours, our characters really have so much togetherness
and you know, you feel like, right, no, I don't
know if anybody did, though, I don't think anybody did.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And uh, and so.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I yeah, I was just like I was really excited
to meet her, and within like by the end of
the table we were family, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And we all had one on ones with.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Mark Cherry, our creator, uh, while we were kind of
prepping to shoot the pilot, and so we had our
little one on one where we sat in you know,
a conference room with him and talked about our scenes
and talked about our relationship dynamic and things like that.
And he asked us, I think because one of us
asked Cherry probably said, you know, our last name is
it pronounced a Mayor or Meyer because it's spelled m
(15:40):
A y e r And and he said, what would
you like it to be? And we kind of thought
about it, and then we said Meyer, and he was like, okay,
interesting because that's usually with an E.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And then we were like, my baloney has a first name?
Was the second name?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, myer, like Oscar's so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yah, yah, so funny.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But I guess to answer your question, yeah, I know
exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
She she was aware that it was a typical and
it was also a typical for where she was at
in her career, because she's spoken a lot about the
fact that things were like kind of crazy in her
life at the time, and you know, like so many
actresses who hit a certain age, especially then I feel like, hopefully,
hopefully we're trending in a better direction. But you know,
(16:36):
she was like, there's nothing out there right now for me.
I can seem to figure out where things are going.
And you know, she had her daughter, Emerson was so
young at the time, she was four, I think, yeah,
and so uh so she was kind of bewildered that
things were that it happened so fast and that it.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Shot into the night. Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, wild.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, it's so good to help, I'm sure like also
for your parents too. I imagine like being surrounded by
people like that who have gone through it. The ups
and downs, because you always have the people who have
done that always have the like grounded perspective of being
present and thankful for the situation and then to protect
obviously any young cast around yea from the craziness.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
About that a lot about how fortunate I was obviously,
you know, we want to be as actors, like gainfully
employed on a consistent basis is not guaranteed ever, you know,
And and so we want to be on something consistently
right period. Then when you look at it and you're
a young person, even if you're a young person who's
(17:45):
been in the industry for a long time, like by
the time I started the show, I'd already been in
the industry.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
For so long, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But you know, how fortunate was I not to just
have a study a study job, which is so rare,
but to me for it to be a show led
by women, yeah, and women in forty plus, you know,
except for you, but you know, portraying.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That phase of life totally.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
And I just think I think about that all the time,
the ways in which that must have subliminally affected my
outlook on what was possible for me isn't And as
just a woman in general, and then the other thing
I think a lot about, which I think.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
You'll both appreciate. And I don't even know if many
people know.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
This, because why would they, But all of our scripts,
all every single script from Desperate Housewives was named after
Steven Somimon or something song. Yeah, which to me is
like literally everything that's crazy, like I was show.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Which also makes a lot of sense because weird connections
here where when we met Terry, Yes, independently of you,
I think right well through, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Emerson was a big facilitated, facilitated it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Way to cut me out, keV.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, I was like that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Andrea wasn't a part of that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's why I said.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
That's why I said. I was like, that can't be right.
I'm like, I don't know a world in which we
would have met Terry without you. But you facilitated us
singing or lip singing, agony.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No singing.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We sang it.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I think so we Kevin did agony? Oh my god,
did I do agne with you?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think you did? Didn't you?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Maybe? Yeah? It was Emerson was Terry's daughter. Emerson was
a huge Clee fan at the time, and Andrea Texton
was like, look, Terry has a birthday party for Emerson
that's happening, and she just wants to know if you
guys are coming sing for her. So I, Kevin at
the time, like was not the most the biggest musical
theater fan or had. I didn't did not have the
(19:55):
wealth knowledge of Steven Sondheim. So He's like, what's into
the woods? What's the song? And I had to be like, Okay,
here's what's up. We were we were trying since we
had met, since I had met him. I was like,
welcome to my world, come on in and uh. And
so we went to Terry's house and you know, like yes, yeah,
of course she's very very Yeah. So we sang. Yeah,
(20:22):
I think we sang together, Kevin, And you're right. I
think you're right. I think we did sing to a
track or something, because I don't think we sang.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It was over the tracks, like she didn't really care. No,
you don't have to like sing, We'll just play it
and you guys just sing overtly.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Why wasn't I there? I mean I must have had
a reason why I wasn't there because to miss Emerson's
party is right, you guys performing.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
No way. I feel like you were out of town.
You have to be a something was happening.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Let me create it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You do now you know what? Now you know what.
Welcome to the world.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I know.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm sorry it was a little late.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
We didn't cover that. You and I also did Broadway
Kids together.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh my god. Yeah, so Andrew and I. Andrew's whole
family is like I had mentioned this before the reference
of the Montrapp family. It is because all of your
brothers and sisters are very, very, very talented, and many
of them were also be.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Family by the way, like just they're so nice, so cool,
so fun. I love your family.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Alice is the king and I though, and Alex and
I go way back. Also because Alex is my first
date ever, like in person, was was chaberoned by your
older sister Jessica. I was just encompassed by the Bowens
for many, many years. What did you guys do?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
We went to John's Pizzeria.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
See, that's a great first date.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Still I would still be I know, honestly, Like I
think about that now, I'm like, wow, what a great
first date, and Jessica came. She was working the merchant
hand at Lames I think at the time, and she
took us. And Alex is very chivalrous. He used to
bring me flowers to the stage door. He was like
very kind, very gentleman menlike it's like so sweet, oh
(22:23):
a little muffin. But then Andrew and I all so
all these Broadway kids. There was like a community of
us and we all came together and there was a
group called the Broadway Kids, which was started by Julius Shulman,
and it kind of we had like cast albums and
we did shows on the Wee Weapons Show, Jackets, my show,
(22:43):
Jacket walk around like in Jackets Kids on the Bad.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I thought they were Broadway Kids camp in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh wow? Was that? We was that like an all
cute of.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Knock.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It was called Kids.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Do you ever own.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
It?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Might have.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Jesse McCartney was in it, Matt Ballenger, right, Gregor Poso,
like just so many people, all the Bowens. And that's
where like Andrea was like the weeest one, the teeniest,
tiniest one. And we had a blast. I mean we did.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I went to Hershey Park. Do you remember going to
Hershey Park?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Do we go to Hershey Park? Wasn't there like a
big celebrity there at the time or something we do?
I don't know. There were just so many things we did.
We would tour like the US. We do have toured
together singing.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, my God.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wed our show we would put on with like blocks
and cues and things, and we would do all these
songs and like.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You'd think I ever saw you in the Yeah, did
you tour Dallas?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I didn't go that far.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I might have. I was like pure Illinois, like Alabama,
like maybe Dallas. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I have a quick funny, just like a little funny,
weird anecdote about doing The Brow Kids, which is that
because I was so small, we had an opening number
that was set to magic to do Fromip Pippen. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And we had to do this thing where it's like
pitch black on stage and then all the cat all
the cast, the kids come out and we're wearing white gloves.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
So all you see is like the white glove moment.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Right, I was so small, they ordered these kids style
child size gloves, but or like both by right, they
just got them book by. They put them on my
hands and the fingers were far too long for my fingers, right,
So they were like, I have an idea, We'll just
cut them. So they just cut them and stitched them together.
But that, of course made the glove look like the
(24:57):
little like they had the tiniest stubby put them on,
and then it'd be like pitch black and then you
just see like.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Like tiny disproportionate fingers.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, and I've always thought about what that must have
looked like from the audience, like what's wrong with that child?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I wish we had video of that. God took a
long show, like they were big shows, and there was
a girl one, Girl two, Girl three. We do them before.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We'd have two show dates, like we would do them
on Saturday morning, and then.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We go and do our Broadway show. Yeah that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I know, that's why you two are such hard workers.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
We don't know any other Way Bay shows today.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, exactly. When I think about it, that is pretty
wild crazy. And then we would record our albums in
the basement of the Artists Building on forty fourth Street
I think it was, and like yeah, yeah, right, they
had like a recording student underneath and we would.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do I had no idea this time.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh yeah really deep?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah whatever, Andrey and I were in love.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, what about that?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
We that she was my last girlfriend dish and he
was my her boyfriend Ish.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh look at this, look at all these things. My gosh, Okay, well,
our friendship does run deep. It's so fun. I have
a question about Desperate though, Like for a show that
for that many seasons, obviously like you're you guys had
an ensemble cast, but you're kind of in and out.
(26:44):
What war like the arcs of your character like coming
in and out like that, And did you know kind
of if you were coming back or when? And how
did that all like work for you?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well, we never.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Really knew, like we we never knew what was going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, like descript we and everyone died all the time
on our show, right, so like all of us were
always kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Reading with one of you know, like is Winter.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I would always make the joke like I'm a I'm
a kid on the show, so I'm probably fine, Like
they're not going to kill off a kid, right, But
as like went further and further, I was like, I'm
not so sure anything, yeah, yeah, and then eventually I
was kind of an adult on the show, and I'm like, oh,
nobody says, but you know, it was kind of weird
because it felt like I was growing up at the
(27:33):
same time real time while my characters growing up. And
there's some similarities between Julie and I, you know, and
then there were differences and there was like me going
through my teenage weird years at the same time as
she was going through her teenage. And then so I
started the show though, and I was playing a character
(27:54):
a little bit younger than me, but when you're a kid,
like it matters, right, So I was like, yeah, I'm
fourteen now, but she's there, right. But when we come
to the show, I was playing a character older than me,
which is weird because this time jump thing, they like
aged my character more than five years. In the five years,
it was like a kind of like fudge, and so
I never knew what was going to happen with my character,
(28:17):
but I felt very protective. When you play a character
that long, you become their advocate as well. Right.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
When we would do storylines where she Julie would be
acting in a way that it was foreign to me,
you know, I'd always really think about it, like is.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
This does this track to me?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Does this feel like a natural sort of extension of
who she is? Or is this the whole point of
this is that it's so wildly different than she and
where do I marry those two worlds together? And you know,
then there are things that happened where like during the
last season.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I don't know, there's going to be spoilers here, but
I feel like it's been.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The feeling ye last season.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You know, my character shows up pregnant, and then there's
this big kind of questioning throughout the last season of
like who's the dad?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And I did not know. They did not tell me
who the dad was, And so.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's because they didn't know yet they were still deciding,
or they just didn't want to tell.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You totally fair question. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I don't know. Maybe maybe they did they did know,
and that they didn't because it was ultimately somebody who
was already on the show they didn't want to like,
not that they didn't trust me to not spill the beans,
but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Hit anybody off.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I don't know. I don't know, but I was horrified
when they told me. And I found out because I
was standing at Crafty and I was like getting a
cup of coffee or something, and I had my phone
like in my hand and the cup of coffee in
my hand, and one of our crew members said, did
you read the next script yet? And I hadn't got
We hadn't gotten them. I think they had like dropped
(29:58):
it off in our trailer and I was filming and
I was like, no, I haven't done yet.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And he was like, well, they reveal who.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Your baby daddy is. And I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
God, who is it?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
And then he told me, and I you know when
you like, I've never had a moment like this was
so dramatic on my part.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But I dropped what I was holding. But I but I.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Held the coffee cup and dropped my phone and cracked
my phone my coffee. But anyway, the thing was that
it was one of Felicity Huffman's twin boys, right. I
think it was Max, No, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It was it was either Max or Charlie Kerver. Yep, yes,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
And because I had been on the show since the beginning.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I knew those little boys, the original little boy, right,
Ssman twins, and they were so much younger than me,
right like when we shot the pilot, I was thirteen
and they were five or something, and I was like,
what what is my girl doing? No, yes, it is
a plot twist. Yes it is shogging, but is it appropriate?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, when you're an adult a mysteria lane.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I anything goes, anything goes.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But I remember like that was probably when I think
about what did I know was coming and what didn't
I know was coming? And that was a real I
was like, Okay, this is how we're marking marking her
off for the entirety.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Of the show.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yes, it connects, It connects Lynette Felicity's character with Terry forever.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know, there's like a sweetness there.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But I was.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It was just so that is weird, Like we would
have it in small doses where like different characters would
like get together or hook up, like what why, oh god,
we have to kiss? It's weird, Okay, now we have
to do this all right?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah? God? Wow, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Have you gone back to rewatch any of it?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I've never done it. I've never done a rewatch. I think,
I mean, I think it would be very fun. I
also think a lot of it still holds up in
my mind. I think a lot of it still holds up.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's also people watching it now.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
People are watching it, yeah, and people are really loving it,
and that is so awesome. So I do feel like
I do feel like it would be a really pleasurable
experience to rewatch it. Also, I am married, obviously, my
lovely husband Josh, who was on Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I wanted to get there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Oh my god, if we were ever, I'm like, oh,
that season I at least have to watch because watching
these people interact having zero idea that they would one
day marry each.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Other like that, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's so wild.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That's kids what Mark Desert Housewives has had all my life,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I mean, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
By the way, I was at Andrew's wedding and it
was just like the most beautiful, magical like on the
sea side and Spain. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Thank you, I love it, And it was really really
something in our efficient my wonderful friend Mollie tar Love
uh did reference the connection there in her efficient speech
about course, yeah, which is like, I mean, she killed it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It was the funny Ones unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, it was unreal, but it did make me think,
oh gosh, we should watch something. We should at least
watch that those.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Are This is my pitch to all those listening at
iHeart that Andrea should have a Desperate Housewives recap.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Podcast was very good podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, I have to figure out which is.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
My amazing co stars would do it with. Yeah, right,
you have a lot watched this show now?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, I know, I've actually been thinking about it too.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Maybe watching Brothers and Sisters, I know, anytime America's mother
Sally Field.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I know literally, I think that obviously the world is
a very scary place these days, and I think that
there is such a uh like a visceral need for
comfort in any for every form.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Right now, I don't even know what sparked it.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
There is something about that show that makes me think
of my family, even though we're not that family.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
It's just that there's so many of them.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, we have lived in a beautiful
Pasadena home instead of our butterartment in New York.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Right, yes, definitely I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I am forever grateful for to Greg Borlanti, for Everwood.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You and I we loved Everwood, I mean other people
to watch, but nobody loved it as much.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I remember talking about that early on.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
We had a camera. Our camera guy also worked on
it too, so Kevin would Billy speak out all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.
Brothers and Sisters, Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Brothers and Sisters is so good?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Did you watch Glee? I did watch Glee. I didn't
watch every season of Glee. I think at some point, I.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm so sorry, I don't think I watched the interstriate
Housewives here.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Well, then I spoiled it for you. I just spoiled
at least my storyline or.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I feel like I knew that because you also we
became friends and you were still on the show, right,
and then you would start texting me things.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, right, I did watch Glee first season. I did
watch Glee. I came to set once.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yes you did?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You did several years in yes, right.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And maybe it was like season It might have been
season two or three, just to say.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Hi, I think, yeah, I mean obviously why else? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
And Haley came yeah yeah, And I also auditioned for
you guys, which party do Then I'd have to go
back and look Oftentimes Glee would give like Finn size
or Rachel's sides to people and like they wouldn't know
what they were auditioning for.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
There would be rumors that they'd be like, oh, Kurt's
new boyfriend or whatever, girlfriends.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I think I had a character name.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I couldn't tell you what it was, but I think
I think I did.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, I remember us talking about this at the time too,
because like, I hope I know how fun.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, please come on.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It would have been like I got to go because
they don't stop talking to each other.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I would have been fired so quickly had I known,
had I felt more secure, I guess in my job.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
You would have been like, please hire my friends. But
isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Like you know people, I think people people who aren't
in the industry often think you have maybe more say
than you do. But like when you're on the show,
you're like, I can't, like I'm just trying to keep
my yes.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Like I am barely hanging on here. I would love
people are graduating left and right speaking, I know I can't.
I can't words an episode.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, you know, Kevin, I do.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I was thinking about this this morning. Do you remember
when you got the office and you called me, Yes,
I remember where I was driving at the time.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Same.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Oh, it was a big deal. I was so Kevin
is more famous from the Office and he is from Glazontimes.
Like people still are like, I bet the Office, Like.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeahs, that middle finger was gone it Pizza boy, Pizza Boy,
Pizza Boy.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's very weird.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, that's a cool thing that you were on that.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah. I also just like, I don't know how I
got here.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I mean that's us every day You're like, how did
I get here?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I was like the only kid. I was like, I
don't know, these are all adults.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I would I was so intimidated on that.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I was, but they were all so nice. So I
I don't know if I've ever told you this, Andrea,
but so like being on the office at learned so
much from all those people about how to operate with
guest stars, how to just pact. You know, they were
so lovely. But I had been around Andrea so many times.
(38:24):
She got recognized everywhere we went, and she was always
so cool about it and wouldn't make it weird afterwards,
you know, like her friends. And that was my only
that you see me like barometer of like my only
experience of like having a friend who was famous enough
(38:44):
to be stopped everywhere we'd go, right, And so I
remember the very beginning of Glee, when I would start
to get stopped, I'd be like, Okay, what would Andrea do?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I never knew, you know, I gosh, it's such an
uncomfortable It can be so uncomfortable for both parties, right,
And yet what I always would think.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Is like it took them.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
It took them some because I know, I like, I
don't go up to anybody because I was so nervous
and scared and like, I don't you know whatever we
make up in our minds, and so I would always think,
like they're braver than me.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
First date, and.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
All they wanted to do was come over and say
like they like what you're doing, or they like this
thing you're a part of, and that's so kind.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
And so you know, and it's weird when you're a
teenager because you just are so.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Awkward, right, you're like navigating so much older.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
An older woman come up to me in Ikea, and
she didn't she didn't speak I don't remember where she was.
English was not her native language. And she was telling
me sort of with with more like gestures than words,
that she likes the show and you know, and then
she grabbed my face and she kissed me on the mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It was, And I thought, and I remember telling Terry
about it, because I was like, I had a crazy
experience at KIA over the weekend, you know, and it
pray all good stories exactly. It wasn't yeah, it wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I don't know. Anyway, he was like, you know, I
think that might be a difference between being an adult
on this show and being a kid on this show,
because I don't think an adult I don't think someone
would do that to one of us, right, And I
thought that was so interesting because you know, people felt
they feel differently about kids.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I think in a way they especially if he was
an older woman, and it was well meaning. It was
just like boundaries be gone.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh my god, kiss the stranger child on my mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I was like, no, well, yeah, we've had people like
give us their babies and like they were like, can
you sign my baby? And we were like, I'll sign
a shirt on your baby. I'm not signing your baby.
Like the baby's skin.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, I know, okay, and that was after just like
one episode, like we are really not worth that?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I imagine relegating Andrea. Yes, you
were a role model. Thanks, that's true.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I learned so much from watching those And it wasn't
like you would talk about it. I was just I
would just like observe, right, And you know, when you're
out with friends and you get stopped or like mobbed
a little bit, it can be a little awkward and funny.
You've just never made it a thing. It was. You
were always so nice to people, so it was and
(41:49):
good job. Yeah, I expect nothing less.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Do you feel like now because people are rewatching it again,
you feel like you're getting recognized again more like there
are phases where Kevin and I will be like, something's
happening in the Glee world because nobody notices where we are,
and then everybody notices where you are.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah. Yeah, you know it's interesting because we've had a
steady there hasn't been that like how do I say this,
There hasn't been a super long stretch of time where
there's nothing like there's always you know, I think it
depends obviously, like in La maybe not as much or
whatever when you're trying when you're abroad, like watching you know,
(42:30):
it's like the timeline is different over there that I'm.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Like, oh, wow, yeah the first time.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I don't really know, yes, but I do think maybe maybe,
like in the past year or so, there's it's found
a younger audience again, because I've noticed that the people
who have come up to me, they're trending younger. Or
maybe I'm obviously trending older, So like whos I don't
know how people just see younger.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Also, something's happening in like the gay world where all
of a sudden, like they're either rewatching it or watching
it for the first time.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Crazy, I'm like, you come on first time.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I know. Well they make those are the younger ones
because the rewatching people like around my age.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah okay, okay, yeah, but yesterday I was doing I
went to Wasteland and I was trying to sell my
clothes you know, spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
They didn't take anything. They never did. Don't you hate
that when you do that You wait in the line
and then they don't take any of it.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
So personal too, they like, look at your boot and.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
It's as good as that.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I know. I give it to Austin. I'm like, if
you want to go try to sell this. They took
one thing, like I told you, I know, they.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Like three dollars and then they try to give you
an explanation, which I'm sure they are supposed to, but
I'm like, I don't want to hear why you know
I'm worth this store like it's They're like, it's not
really in season. I'm like, I know, that's.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
But the season does come back.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I was like, hello, the nineties are back, so just
hold on for twenty years. They're like, you know, dish well,
They're like the condition of the stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
And I was like, woman und over and.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Was like, I'm sorry, I just have to ask are
you an actress?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And I was again she was like are you Julie?
And I was like, are you Julie? Yeah, and then
she goes, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, I should bring you out and who I'd be
really popular.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Oh yes, two of you together, forget it together.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Actually we'll just charging so charging.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
For a photo West Hollywood Cone at the Abbey.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
We just said m a con Julie Meyer bad idea
all of our favorite shows.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Very specific.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Actually everyone there'd be like, it's just Kevin, we see
him here every weekend.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, maybe, yeah, sure, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Bring both of you.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, So if you say a you auditioned for maybe
auditioned for Lee, or you don't remember which part did
you have to sing?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
What did you sing?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I think it was a self.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Tape probably, but like I wouldn't remember.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Saying it because I was working, and I do remember
singing something, and I want to say it was Sarah.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Burrellas choice, good choice. We didn't do enough. Soa show.
What if you got cast? What would you have wanted
to sing on our show? What do you want to pop?
Would you want to Broadway?
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Broadway Baby, Broadway Baby?
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah? Because you know, in my personal life, I don't
sing a lot of musical theater these days. Yeah, so
i've in the last few weeks I have. While I
went to Steven Sonheim's old friends for my birthday A
life like you guys.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It was one of the most Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
I went with my brother Cameron and Molly and we
were We just sat there and held hands and cried
and like rands, like we had a full new rebirth
of like what about it? Yes, lay as Langa Bernarda
Peters like, oh, come on, like are we It felt
like it was designed for me and and your Yeah.
(46:16):
But the amazing thing is that felt like everyone who
was there felt that way. No one who was there
was therese people don't just like buy that ticket specific,
so it was really transcendent and incredible. I also went
and saw a concert of Rent.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Weekend.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah brother performs in this cabaret thing, and I went
and saw that, which is all musical theater. So, like
I say, so, answer that question, I definitely would have
been Broadway. I mean ideally would have been Sondheim.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Because with Kevin, definitely Time, definitely definitely son.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Teim or or okay, because you know I'm a big
taped answer. Yes, I would have liked to tap her tune.
I don't even know if you guys ever did that,
but well.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Our choreographer pitched a tap number for Tina for me.
To our writers was like, give her a top hat,
give her a kinge, give her a big number. And
instead they gave They were like, yeah, we did it.
We gave her soft shoe and I was like, that's
not the same. It's not the same. Now, I will
say the episode was great and it was like one
(47:27):
of mine and Kevin's like big episodes, and it was like,
it was great. So it worked and his number was
he sang on it. It was great, but I was
a little disappointed that it didn't turn out to be
a tap number. But yes, and then we did Lindsay Peers,
who from the Glee Project. She did Anything Goes and
they did it top and that was I.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Would like maybe something I feel on I'm forty second Street.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yes, I feel that shoes.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Let me let me bring I have missed opportunity. I'm
so upset into it. I'm so upset.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It would have been fun.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Could you like it? We got to sing together, I mean,
or I would have done an n LT song.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Why didn't we do any Nobody knew who we were
because you were not like them, because you were not
like not like them, not the true successful.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
We are getting towards the end of the series, and
obviously things have happened outside of the show in real life,
things have happening in the show, and when you get
towards the end of the show, it's less popular. Normally
the maybe the storylines have gotten a little kookie or crazy.
(48:53):
It feels like for us it felt different, like yeah, yeah,
it feels as Darren poetically once said, it feels like
hat with a broken leg trying to cross the road.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I wonder you know, for you towards the end of
the show, did you feel that difference.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yes, I think it did feel different. I think it
felt different the last the last season. It was a
surprise that we were ending. That was that came a
surprise to us. We we kind of all thought we'd
go I think we thought we were gonna have three
more seasons.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh wow, that's a huge change.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, that was kind of it was.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
It was a shock and and.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
And I think that we didn't have tons of time
to process that we were actively filming the last year.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
So we find out in the middle of the season
that it was going to be your last.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Now that's a good question of when it was we
found out. Okay, Well I want to say this, and
then I feel like I need to be able to
back this up, so I should say that I'm don't
take it with a grayish of salt, like a like
a bigger one though, like a Malden. Yes, I think
I think I found out in the trades. Oh man, Yeah,
(50:13):
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure we found out when
everyone found out, And so I don't know if we were.
It must have been before we started our last season,
I don't know, but but I remember that table read
after it had been announced and what that felt like,
and it felt it felt definitely sad and and and
(50:38):
maybe unfinished a little which is kind of different than
like feeling like it's going like this totally, you guys,
there was more to do. I mean, look, we had
eight wonderful seasons and we had covered the ground of
what could happen, what catastrophes could happen on one single
neighborhood street. So you know, it's fine. I think it
(50:59):
was good that we went out when it was still
going well. Yeah, but I definitely felt a shift. And
also we had had some we had had some stuff
going on personally, you know on the show where there
were you know, media frenzy coverage of things happening that
(51:21):
was happening simultaneously, which definitely affected.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
I think the way it felt a little bit of
the morale a little bit.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
And so there's this there's a there was footage shot
though of our I'm sure there was of you guys too.
Did they shoot like what it was like on the
last episode? And yeah, yes, and I haven't though I
haven't done a rewatch, I did see that at one
point over the past ten years or whatever, and that
was so emotional, Yes, so emotional and watching how emotional
(51:54):
we all were, Yes, forgotten.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
The show ends with Terry and I driving down the
street like in our car with my baby in the
back seat and my little brother, you know in the car,
and she asks like should I should I take one
more drive down the lane? And you know, I think,
I say, like go for it or something, and she
drives down and the street is lined with everybody who
(52:21):
has passed away, like all the characters that have passed away,
dressed in white, and we're like driving down and they're
just standing there kind of guiding us as we leave
Wasteria Lane forever, you know, And that like that was
not the last day of everybody filming. That was Terry
in my last day. And there was the last day
I believe of filming on Wasteria Lane, like interiors on
(52:44):
a stage.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
More on location.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
So Oh my god, it was. It was a magnitude
of what we were feeling was so big and for
me just personally, like it did feel I was I
started the show thirty we wrapped, I was either just
turned twenty three because of the gap, so like eight
years was kind of ten years of my life right crazy,
(53:08):
And it felt like, I guess I felt the way
that some people feel when they are done with college
or something, you know what I mean, right, big collaborative
recognition of something ending and a chapter that's over and
you're and and it was mimicked by what we were filming.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
And it was just like it was.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
It was really heavy and.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Charged and you know, it was sweet and sad and
so many different things.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
So yeah, Wow, I love that you and Terry are
still close like that, Like what a special bond you've
been able to. It's also so much you guys were
a big ensemble like we were. Yeah, And so to
have strengthened numbers like emotionally, yeah, show through these sorts
of things, the highs and lows are made so much
(53:57):
better being able to share that with other people.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Yeah. And I am so grateful to Terry for so
many years of mentorship and friendship and support and laughter
and experiences. And you know, it's one thing to go
through a show with somebody by your side, and it's
(54:20):
another thing to grow up on a show with knowing,
you know, to feel safe and secure because.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Someone has your back.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
And I mean, yeah, our friendship has only grown as
we've as we've both gotten older. And we were laughing
because my birthday just passed and she was saying, you know,
we were talking on my birthday about how like I
was like, can we believe I'm thirty five? It's weird?
Speaker 4 (54:46):
And she was like no, because I like I'm sixty
and I was like, I know.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I was at her forty, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
It's weird, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
And you know, she's just and she's an incredible and
incredible person and I am so lucky that I got
to be her daughter. You know, for all those you.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Turned out iconic normal. Well, you know, I mean that's fine. Yeah, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
Know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
We always ask all of our cast members and crew members,
what is the feeling that Glee leaves you with? But
I think I'll just ask you, like, what's the feeling
that Desperate House Eyes like leaves you with. Wow hmmm,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (55:38):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Pride.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
I guess I feel really proud to have been a
part of that show. I think it struck at just
a perfect time. You know, Network television, as you guys know,
has changed so much. It changed so much while we
were all on our shows, and it was a really
(56:01):
cool time to be in people's houses every week. And
and so I'm super proud. I'm super proud to have
been among those storytellers and to have gotten to uh.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
To entertain people for that long. So yeah, I think that. Yeah,
that's a really good answer. And I wish part of
you guys, I really do. I missed opportunity truly. No,
I know, Andrew, thank you so much for being We
could literally talk for three hours.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
But yeah, I know it's true.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Somewhere the sun will just move.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'm honored.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
I'm honored to get to hang out with you guys, and.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
I knowsional capacity. It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
It was a very good at your jobs, by the way,
keep it you keep it moving in give Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
So it's easy when it's do yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Super easy. It was it was so fun. Oh thanks,
thanks for coming on. Love you guys, bye, love you bye.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
What a joy, And like the experiences are obviously very.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Different but also similar, Like there's the same sentiment about
like being on a show for that long and like
growing up on a show and so fully yeah you.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Know, And honestly like her answer for what do de
house I leave you with? I think that would probably
be my answer for Yeah, Glee, No, for sure, Yeah
it does. She's just one of my favorite people. Like
I said, thank you Andrea for coming on. Everyone go
do it is her Housewives rewatch?
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh my god, I'm about to.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
That's what you're miss.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
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And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna and Kevin
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to you, and That's what You Really miss podcast.
Hello Kevin, Hello Jenna.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Today we have one of our best friends.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's crazy how we both know her separately and then
have come together in this way and still I don't know,
it's really crazy. We could talk for hours. She's amazing.
Andrea Bowen is here. She was, She's been a musical
theater girl since it's literally out of the womb. But
then you know, made her way to from the Broadway
(00:42):
to the screen as Julia and Desperate House has and
she's still just a gem of a human.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
She's just getting better, right every year?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, getting better.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
She's the best. So we have Andrea Bowen, one of
my favorite people in the entire world.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Also one of my favorite people in Kevin, what what
about It?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And Jenna and I. When we first started the show,
she was one of the like people we talked about, like,
at some point we have to get Andrea on here.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We know Andrea separately, separately, the thing, Yeah, separately, So
I guess I know Andrew longer.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Kevin, Yes, you have whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I feel like I've done, Andrew, since she like had
baby teeth, like baby teeth together.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You know, I was trying to remember when we first met,
and I was thinking, when did you do King?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And I ninety five?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Okay, so i've born I would have been five.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, okay, so this is around the time. Definitely a baby.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, you were both on Broadway as babies.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, yes, but Andrew was like, really baby, she was
like the youngest cosette you know Cosetta on Broadway ever?
And you had been yes today, thank you. You are
the tiniest little thing like you were five of you
looked even smaller. You were so tiny and so cute.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I actually fell into the bucket that young said is
supposed to push onto the stage because it was I
was so small that I fell into it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I was like, oh, the audience is going to feel
so sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm so helpless. Like this is crazy. Wait how old
were you when you did.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So? I I think I just turned six. Oh my god,
it is crazy. It is crazy, Like who allowed it?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And your parents seem so normal. I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
They are normal.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They are normal.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They're lovely and normal.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And they didn't help me better.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, we could talk forever. We literally have everything
to talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I met Andrea when I was seventeen yep, probably yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I was still five.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yes, still five. My friend Justin and I ran into
Andrea and Addison mm hmm at Walking Bookang Puck at
city Walk stop and we were like, they're cute, and
somehow we started talking to them and I did a
fake British accent for two hours, Kevin, because.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
We hung out after we were like hung out at
bookingg Puck and then went and got like fro Yo
or something as teens in la at city walk.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, And I don't know why I did that. I
don't know what out of my mind. And then I
didn't see you again for like a year or something.
And we ran and we ran into each other at
Ali and aj Sweet sixteen party.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well it joined sweet sixteen and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yes you're right, Okay, yes, you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And it was at oh.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
My god, Andrea, not being one to hold her tongue,
come sees me like ordering like something at the bar
and it's like, hmm, this is not like you have
a British accent anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I was like oh at that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Point I was very scared of confrontation and it's not
like I am.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now no, no, no. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So it also made me admire her, like like her
even more.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Because they were like each other. Yes, And was were
you on Desperate at that point, Andrew? Or are you
just having what you were out here?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was? I was, So I started. I started Desperate
Housewives when I was thirteen, and so by the time
I was sixteen maybe, so she.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Was a star by the time she met me. Oh,
just just she was very famous.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And yeah, so I'd probably been doing it for four
years at that point. I don't try to figure it
out by what color was my hair? Was my hair blonde?
When we met Kevin?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know either.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I don't know. That's how I tell time in my
career is like, what was I did that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We talked about up into seasons? Yeah, like, oh was
that during season two or season four?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Because we ate how many seasons?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Six? At? How many did you guys have?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We had eight?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And that was you know, and it was crazy too
because you guys probably were also you were on during
the first writer strike.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We came were a result of the writer strikes. So
we came right after.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Wow, okay, so we had our writer strike, but that
was like that affected our season five. I think, so
that was before, but it was when they did the
five year jump into the future.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We came back from the writer strike and we all
felt like five years had passed, but then five years.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Hair color change for me.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
They were like, she's fad redhead.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yes, fun, yeah, a full adult all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, yes, yeah, I think I dated a teacher. I
came back and then I was dating a teacher at college.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You know Scandalsh show was scandals.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean your show was gotten really yes, you so
you started that show at thirteen, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I was twenty when it started Glee, but like that's
very different. The thirteen to twenty or twenty three three
three is very different than thirteen and your show even
more than our show, like blew up from the get go.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I mean, I don't know if more. It was a
very big juggernaut success.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But like it got there. I remember Desperate, like everyone
remembers where they were Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, it was a wild experience too, because I had
done a series the year prior and another ABC show
that unfortunately nobody knows about, but it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Was a great show.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It was just it was called that was then, and
it was an ABC hour long show that was a
little bit ahead of its time. It dealt with time
travel and it was dark, dark comedy, and people weren't
really doing dark comedies at that time. And anyway, we
we shot the pilot, we got great feedback, it got
picked up.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
We shot eight episodes, they aired two episodes.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh my god, back then when they would just stop
airing the shows after.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, but anyway, and so that was like my I
had done that. And then the following pilot season, I
got Desperate Housewives and you know.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Rushing it by the way, do you know, like where
it is to just get one show?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Picked up?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean, I I am aware. It was a wild
I'm so grateful that that was my experience coming out
here from New York.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Like, yes, how are you when you moved here from
New York?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, I moved here for that first series, so.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was kind of a soft move.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So I was twelve, and then we went back to
work though I know, right I was workshopping a show
in New York. A musical.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
This I don't know if I mean, I was like,
I don't know if I can talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was what twenties years ago anyway, but it was
a really cool idea.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It was a Disney workshop, oh fun.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And it was a combination of a bunch of different
Disney shows woven stories, so the music all of these
different amazing iconic Disney songs, but forming its own story.
It was a very.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh my god, let's get that back.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I know, I know, which is really cool. So I
had to go back because I was doing that, and we.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Thought that was going to go to Broadway, and so
we were like, oh, let's stick with this.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And then and then when the show was canceled, I
was like, Okay, we're going to stay in New York.
And then we came back out for another.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Pilot of season, which was wow.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And Yeah, I happened fast, like we knew after the
first episode aired. I think we were number one.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That week, I think. So. I think I remember that
because I was obsessed with numbers and yeah, yeah, Nerd, Yeah,
that's why we're friends. I know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I can say that because I also am yes. And
then they told us I think week two that we had.
We had stronger numbers than Law and Order, and we
were all like, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
My ol, what a comparison was.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like, you guys came literally came in like a wrecking ball.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You just wow, Wow, what a time?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Could you do that? Because you were still shooting the season, yes,
and so we.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Could feel it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think it's it's interesting because it's like sometimes you
hear about shows that just kind of come out strong
and people, you know, cast or the crew says like, yeah,
we had no idea, like we were doing something, but
we had no idea people were going to re on
that way. And it's not that we knew that it
was going to be the success that it became. It's
we felt something magical when we were filming.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
The pilot, all of us did.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We were like, something's different happening here. And it was
like a bunch of pieces that came together to create
this magic. And then we were obviously very very happy
that people responded the way they did. I don't think
we knew it was going to do what it did,
for that was unprecedented.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Predict that going to be the biggest show immediately.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, so we knew it was special. We
knew it was really good. We we had hoped that
people would watch it, but I don't think we had.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Any and you hope just to like have enough viewers
to like keep going for a little Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Did you guys? Did you know that it was gonna
pop up?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But we had a very similar feeling of like we
just had so much fun the pilot and our sort
of gauge for the I guess specialness of it was
from the crew or a lot of them would tell
us like they were enjoying it just as much as
we were, and they would tell us like this isn't normal,
like this is so nice, but it was a musical
(11:17):
like those historically had terrible track record.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, so on the back of our.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Heads was like we're enjoying it. Yeah, Like so many
shows have talented people and talented writers and crews and
they just don't hold the media.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It is also like didn't have like we had nowhere
withal to know what, Like we didn't know a greenlight,
like getting greenlit mean men and like getting picked up
men and then early so I didn't but.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I didn't really Fox exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
All these Fox exacts would like show up on said,
and like we had like everybody showing up to our
pilot and our crew was like Fox execs don't show
up to a pilot and nless they know there's something happening,
you know what I mean. So we definitely had like
heard from people with experience that this was different than
(12:09):
the rest.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Curious because I was trying to remember what Ryan Murphy
had done before Glee, Like what were his bigger nip
tuk nip tuk?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Of course, you know, I did Niptok, what you did?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I did? I was cut out. I'm on, I'm on
Season one DVD bonus.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh my god, I was.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
It was the same period of time.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think it was between shooting a pilot of Housewives
and before our first season started and I did an
episode of Niptok. I was playing a very young girl
obviously who was getting a press reduction.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh my gosh, damn.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You just couldn't help it, get it. You walk into
an audition and we're like, yes, you miss remember auditions
like a month ago?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And no, was it weird and nerve wracking?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Or I didn't make eye contact with anybody else in.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The waiting room or in the room.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Both I can't get it. I don't know why. It
was refreshing to go in. Actually it was like it
was like two pages. It was like an easy thing, great,
and it was I had a really nice time, just
like chatting with the castic director. It was like, it's
nice to be out of the house. Yeah, this is nice.
(13:31):
But I wanted to ask you because how Jenna said,
when we were shooting the pilot, none of us knew
anything about anything except Jane. But we also weren't that
close with her yet, right, you were surrounded by like
TV veterans and also your TV mama yea Terry Hatcher
is a TV legend. Yes, and so I imagine obviously
(13:56):
you're still super close with her and she's very protective
of you. Yes, if like during that time, her or
you know, the other cast who had been doing this
for a while, could sort of give you the perspective
of like, this isn't normal, like this is crazy, yeah,
or you know, or what they said about what's happening.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think there was a lot of uh, this isn't
normal conversations happening, Like people were saying in our cast
was saying, this is unusual, and uh, these are good signs,
but like this is this is not not normal, Terry.
I think Terry and I we bonded so quickly. We
(14:41):
were it was it was really sweet. We met for
the first time, not until the table read. We met
at the table head wow, And which is kind of
crazy because ours, our characters really have so much togetherness
and you know, you feel like, right, no, I don't
know if anybody did, though, I don't think anybody did.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And uh, and so.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I yeah, I was just like I was really excited
to meet her, and within like by the end of
the table we were family, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And we all had one on ones with.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Mark Cherry, our creator, uh, while we were kind of
prepping to shoot the pilot, and so we had our
little one on one where we sat in you know,
a conference room with him and talked about our scenes
and talked about our relationship dynamic and things like that.
And he asked us, I think because one of us
asked Cherry probably said, you know, our last name is
it pronounced a Mayor or Meyer because it's spelled m
(15:40):
A y e r And and he said, what would
you like it to be? And we kind of thought
about it, and then we said Meyer, and he was like, okay,
interesting because that's usually with an E.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And then we were like, my baloney has a first name?
Was the second name?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, myer, like Oscar's so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yah, yah, so funny.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But I guess to answer your question, yeah, I know
exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
She she was aware that it was a typical and
it was also a typical for where she was at
in her career, because she's spoken a lot about the
fact that things were like kind of crazy in her
life at the time, and you know, like so many
actresses who hit a certain age, especially then I feel like, hopefully,
hopefully we're trending in a better direction. But you know,
(16:36):
she was like, there's nothing out there right now for me.
I can seem to figure out where things are going.
And you know, she had her daughter, Emerson was so
young at the time, she was four, I think, yeah,
and so uh so she was kind of bewildered that
things were that it happened so fast and that it.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Shot into the night. Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, wild.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, it's so good to help, I'm sure like also
for your parents too. I imagine like being surrounded by
people like that who have gone through it. The ups
and downs, because you always have the people who have
done that always have the like grounded perspective of being
present and thankful for the situation and then to protect
obviously any young cast around yea from the craziness.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
About that a lot about how fortunate I was obviously,
you know, we want to be as actors, like gainfully
employed on a consistent basis is not guaranteed ever, you know,
And and so we want to be on something consistently
right period. Then when you look at it and you're
a young person, even if you're a young person who's
(17:45):
been in the industry for a long time, like by
the time I started the show, I'd already been in
the industry.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
For so long, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
But you know, how fortunate was I not to just
have a study a study job, which is so rare,
but to me for it to be a show led
by women, yeah, and women in forty plus, you know,
except for you, but you know, portraying.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That phase of life totally.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
And I just think I think about that all the time,
the ways in which that must have subliminally affected my
outlook on what was possible for me isn't And as
just a woman in general, and then the other thing
I think a lot about, which I think.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
You'll both appreciate. And I don't even know if many
people know.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
This, because why would they, But all of our scripts,
all every single script from Desperate Housewives was named after
Steven Somimon or something song. Yeah, which to me is
like literally everything that's crazy, like I was show.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Which also makes a lot of sense because weird connections
here where when we met Terry, Yes, independently of you,
I think right well through, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Emerson was a big facilitated, facilitated it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Way to cut me out, keV.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, I was like that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Andrea wasn't a part of that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That's why I said.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
That's why I said. I was like, that can't be right.
I'm like, I don't know a world in which we
would have met Terry without you. But you facilitated us
singing or lip singing, agony.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
No singing.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
We sang it.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I think so we Kevin did agony? Oh my god,
did I do agne with you?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think you did? Didn't you?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Maybe? Yeah? It was Emerson was Terry's daughter. Emerson was
a huge Clee fan at the time, and Andrea Texton
was like, look, Terry has a birthday party for Emerson
that's happening, and she just wants to know if you
guys are coming sing for her. So I, Kevin at
the time, like was not the most the biggest musical
theater fan or had. I didn't did not have the
(19:55):
wealth knowledge of Steven Sondheim. So He's like, what's into
the woods? What's the song? And I had to be like, Okay,
here's what's up. We were we were trying since we
had met, since I had met him. I was like,
welcome to my world, come on in and uh. And
so we went to Terry's house and you know, like yes, yeah,
of course she's very very Yeah. So we sang. Yeah,
(20:22):
I think we sang together, Kevin, And you're right. I
think you're right. I think we did sing to a
track or something, because I don't think we sang.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It was over the tracks, like she didn't really care. No,
you don't have to like sing, We'll just play it
and you guys just sing overtly.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Why wasn't I there? I mean I must have had
a reason why I wasn't there because to miss Emerson's
party is right, you guys performing.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
No way. I feel like you were out of town.
You have to be a something was happening.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Let me create it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You do now you know what? Now you know what.
Welcome to the world.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I know.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm sorry it was a little late.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
We didn't cover that. You and I also did Broadway
Kids together.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh my god. Yeah, so Andrew and I. Andrew's whole
family is like I had mentioned this before the reference
of the Montrapp family. It is because all of your
brothers and sisters are very, very, very talented, and many
of them were also be.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Family by the way, like just they're so nice, so cool,
so fun. I love your family.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Alice is the king and I though, and Alex and
I go way back. Also because Alex is my first
date ever, like in person, was was chaberoned by your
older sister Jessica. I was just encompassed by the Bowens
for many, many years. What did you guys do?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
We went to John's Pizzeria.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
See, that's a great first date.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Still I would still be I know, honestly, Like I
think about that now, I'm like, wow, what a great
first date, and Jessica came. She was working the merchant
hand at Lames I think at the time, and she
took us. And Alex is very chivalrous. He used to
bring me flowers to the stage door. He was like
very kind, very gentleman menlike it's like so sweet, oh
(22:23):
a little muffin. But then Andrew and I all so
all these Broadway kids. There was like a community of
us and we all came together and there was a
group called the Broadway Kids, which was started by Julius Shulman,
and it kind of we had like cast albums and
we did shows on the Wee Weapons Show, Jackets, my show,
(22:43):
Jacket walk around like in Jackets Kids on the Bad.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I thought they were Broadway Kids camp in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh wow? Was that? We was that like an all
cute of.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Knock.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It was called Kids.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Do you ever own.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
It?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Might have.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Jesse McCartney was in it, Matt Ballenger, right, Gregor Poso,
like just so many people, all the Bowens. And that's
where like Andrea was like the weeest one, the teeniest,
tiniest one. And we had a blast. I mean we did.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I went to Hershey Park. Do you remember going to
Hershey Park?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Do we go to Hershey Park? Wasn't there like a
big celebrity there at the time or something we do?
I don't know. There were just so many things we did.
We would tour like the US. We do have toured
together singing.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, my God.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wed our show we would put on with like blocks
and cues and things, and we would do all these
songs and like.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You'd think I ever saw you in the Yeah, did
you tour Dallas?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I didn't go that far.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I might have. I was like pure Illinois, like Alabama,
like maybe Dallas. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I have a quick funny, just like a little funny,
weird anecdote about doing The Brow Kids, which is that
because I was so small, we had an opening number
that was set to magic to do Fromip Pippen. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And we had to do this thing where it's like
pitch black on stage and then all the cat all
the cast, the kids come out and we're wearing white gloves.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
So all you see is like the white glove moment.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Right, I was so small, they ordered these kids style
child size gloves, but or like both by right, they
just got them book by. They put them on my
hands and the fingers were far too long for my fingers, right,
So they were like, I have an idea, We'll just
cut them. So they just cut them and stitched them together.
But that, of course made the glove look like the
(24:57):
little like they had the tiniest stubby put them on,
and then it'd be like pitch black and then you
just see like.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Like tiny disproportionate fingers.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, and I've always thought about what that must have
looked like from the audience, like what's wrong with that child?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I wish we had video of that. God took a
long show, like they were big shows, and there was
a girl one, Girl two, Girl three. We do them before.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We'd have two show dates, like we would do them
on Saturday morning, and then.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We go and do our Broadway show. Yeah that's right,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I know, that's why you two are such hard workers.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
We don't know any other Way Bay shows today.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, exactly. When I think about it, that is pretty
wild crazy. And then we would record our albums in
the basement of the Artists Building on forty fourth Street
I think it was, and like yeah, yeah, right, they
had like a recording student underneath and we would.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do I had no idea this time.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh yeah really deep?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah whatever, Andrey and I were in love.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, what about that?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
We that she was my last girlfriend dish and he
was my her boyfriend Ish.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh look at this, look at all these things. My gosh, Okay, well,
our friendship does run deep. It's so fun. I have
a question about Desperate though, Like for a show that
for that many seasons, obviously like you're you guys had
an ensemble cast, but you're kind of in and out.
(26:44):
What war like the arcs of your character like coming
in and out like that, And did you know kind
of if you were coming back or when? And how
did that all like work for you?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well, we never.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Really knew, like we we never knew what was going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, like descript we and everyone died all the time
on our show, right, so like all of us were
always kind of.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Reading with one of you know, like is Winter.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I would always make the joke like I'm a I'm
a kid on the show, so I'm probably fine, Like
they're not going to kill off a kid, right, But
as like went further and further, I was like, I'm
not so sure anything, yeah, yeah, and then eventually I
was kind of an adult on the show, and I'm like, oh,
nobody says, but you know, it was kind of weird
because it felt like I was growing up at the
(27:33):
same time real time while my characters growing up. And
there's some similarities between Julie and I, you know, and
then there were differences and there was like me going
through my teenage weird years at the same time as
she was going through her teenage. And then so I
started the show though, and I was playing a character
(27:54):
a little bit younger than me, but when you're a kid,
like it matters, right, So I was like, yeah, I'm
fourteen now, but she's there, right. But when we come
to the show, I was playing a character older than me,
which is weird because this time jump thing, they like
aged my character more than five years. In the five years,
it was like a kind of like fudge, and so
I never knew what was going to happen with my character,
(28:17):
but I felt very protective. When you play a character
that long, you become their advocate as well. Right.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
When we would do storylines where she Julie would be
acting in a way that it was foreign to me,
you know, I'd always really think about it, like is.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
This does this track to me?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Does this feel like a natural sort of extension of
who she is? Or is this the whole point of
this is that it's so wildly different than she and
where do I marry those two worlds together? And you know,
then there are things that happened where like during the
last season.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I don't know, there's going to be spoilers here, but
I feel like it's been.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The feeling ye last season.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You know, my character shows up pregnant, and then there's
this big kind of questioning throughout the last season of
like who's the dad?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And I did not know. They did not tell me
who the dad was, And so.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's because they didn't know yet they were still deciding,
or they just didn't want to tell.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You totally fair question. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I don't know. Maybe maybe they did they did know,
and that they didn't because it was ultimately somebody who
was already on the show they didn't want to like,
not that they didn't trust me to not spill the beans,
but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Hit anybody off.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I don't know. I don't know, but I was horrified
when they told me. And I found out because I
was standing at Crafty and I was like getting a
cup of coffee or something, and I had my phone
like in my hand and the cup of coffee in
my hand, and one of our crew members said, did
you read the next script yet? And I hadn't got
We hadn't gotten them. I think they had like dropped
(29:58):
it off in our trailer and I was filming and
I was like, no, I haven't done yet.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And he was like, well, they reveal who.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Your baby daddy is. And I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
God, who is it?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
And then he told me, and I you know when
you like, I've never had a moment like this was
so dramatic on my part.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But I dropped what I was holding. But I but I.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Held the coffee cup and dropped my phone and cracked
my phone my coffee. But anyway, the thing was that
it was one of Felicity Huffman's twin boys, right. I
think it was Max, No, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It was it was either Max or Charlie Kerver. Yep, yes,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
And because I had been on the show since the beginning.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I knew those little boys, the original little boy, right,
Ssman twins, and they were so much younger than me,
right like when we shot the pilot, I was thirteen
and they were five or something, and I was like,
what what is my girl doing? No, yes, it is
a plot twist. Yes it is shogging, but is it appropriate?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, when you're an adult a mysteria lane.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I anything goes, anything goes.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But I remember like that was probably when I think
about what did I know was coming and what didn't
I know was coming? And that was a real I
was like, Okay, this is how we're marking marking her
off for the entirety.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Of the show.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yes, it connects, It connects Lynette Felicity's character with Terry forever.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know, there's like a sweetness there.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But I was.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It was just so that is weird, Like we would
have it in small doses where like different characters would
like get together or hook up, like what why, oh god,
we have to kiss? It's weird, Okay, now we have
to do this all right?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah? God? Wow, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Have you gone back to rewatch any of it?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I've never done it. I've never done a rewatch. I think,
I mean, I think it would be very fun. I
also think a lot of it still holds up in
my mind. I think a lot of it still holds up.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's also people watching it now.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
People are watching it, yeah, and people are really loving it,
and that is so awesome. So I do feel like
I do feel like it would be a really pleasurable
experience to rewatch it. Also, I am married, obviously, my
lovely husband Josh, who was on Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I wanted to get there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Oh my god, if we were ever, I'm like, oh,
that season I at least have to watch because watching
these people interact having zero idea that they would one
day marry each.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Other like that, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's so wild.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That's kids what Mark Desert Housewives has had all my life,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I mean, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
By the way, I was at Andrew's wedding and it
was just like the most beautiful, magical like on the
sea side and Spain. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Thank you, I love it, And it was really really
something in our efficient my wonderful friend Mollie tar Love
uh did reference the connection there in her efficient speech
about course, yeah, which is like, I mean, she killed it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It was the funny Ones unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, it was unreal, but it did make me think,
oh gosh, we should watch something. We should at least
watch that those.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Are This is my pitch to all those listening at
iHeart that Andrea should have a Desperate Housewives recap.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Podcast was very good podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, I have to figure out which is.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
My amazing co stars would do it with. Yeah, right,
you have a lot watched this show now?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, I know, I've actually been thinking about it too.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Maybe watching Brothers and Sisters, I know, anytime America's mother
Sally Field.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I know literally, I think that obviously the world is
a very scary place these days, and I think that
there is such a uh like a visceral need for
comfort in any for every form.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Right now, I don't even know what sparked it.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
There is something about that show that makes me think
of my family, even though we're not that family.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
It's just that there's so many of them.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, we have lived in a beautiful
Pasadena home instead of our butterartment in New York.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Right, yes, definitely I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I am forever grateful for to Greg Borlanti, for Everwood.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You and I we loved Everwood, I mean other people
to watch, but nobody loved it as much.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I remember talking about that early on.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
We had a camera. Our camera guy also worked on
it too, so Kevin would Billy speak out all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.
Brothers and Sisters, Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Brothers and Sisters is so good?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Did you watch Glee? I did watch Glee. I didn't
watch every season of Glee. I think at some point, I.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm so sorry, I don't think I watched the interstriate
Housewives here.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Well, then I spoiled it for you. I just spoiled
at least my storyline or.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I feel like I knew that because you also we
became friends and you were still on the show, right,
and then you would start texting me things.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, right, I did watch Glee first season. I did
watch Glee. I came to set once.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yes you did?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You did several years in yes, right.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
And maybe it was like season It might have been
season two or three, just to say.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Hi, I think, yeah, I mean obviously why else? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
And Haley came yeah yeah, And I also auditioned for
you guys, which party do Then I'd have to go
back and look Oftentimes Glee would give like Finn size
or Rachel's sides to people and like they wouldn't know
what they were auditioning for.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
There would be rumors that they'd be like, oh, Kurt's
new boyfriend or whatever, girlfriends.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I think I had a character name.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I couldn't tell you what it was, but I think
I think I did.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, I remember us talking about this at the time too,
because like, I hope I know how fun.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, please come on.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It would have been like I got to go because
they don't stop talking to each other.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I would have been fired so quickly had I known,
had I felt more secure, I guess in my job.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
You would have been like, please hire my friends. But
isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Like you know people, I think people people who aren't
in the industry often think you have maybe more say
than you do. But like when you're on the show,
you're like, I can't, like I'm just trying to keep
my yes.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Like I am barely hanging on here. I would love
people are graduating left and right speaking, I know I can't.
I can't words an episode.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, you know, Kevin, I do.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I was thinking about this this morning. Do you remember
when you got the office and you called me, Yes,
I remember where I was driving at the time.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Same.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Oh, it was a big deal. I was so Kevin
is more famous from the Office and he is from Glazontimes.
Like people still are like, I bet the Office, Like.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeahs, that middle finger was gone it Pizza boy, Pizza Boy,
Pizza Boy.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's very weird.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, that's a cool thing that you were on that.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah. I also just like, I don't know how I
got here.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I mean that's us every day You're like, how did
I get here?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I was like the only kid. I was like, I
don't know, these are all adults.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I would I was so intimidated on that.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I was, but they were all so nice. So I
I don't know if I've ever told you this, Andrea,
but so like being on the office at learned so
much from all those people about how to operate with
guest stars, how to just pact. You know, they were
so lovely. But I had been around Andrea so many times.
(38:24):
She got recognized everywhere we went, and she was always
so cool about it and wouldn't make it weird afterwards,
you know, like her friends. And that was my only
that you see me like barometer of like my only
experience of like having a friend who was famous enough
(38:44):
to be stopped everywhere we'd go, right, And so I
remember the very beginning of Glee, when I would start
to get stopped, I'd be like, Okay, what would Andrea do?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I never knew, you know, I gosh, it's such an
uncomfortable It can be so uncomfortable for both parties, right,
And yet what I always would think.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Is like it took them.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
It took them some because I know, I like, I
don't go up to anybody because I was so nervous
and scared and like, I don't you know whatever we
make up in our minds, and so I would always think,
like they're braver than me.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
First date, and.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
All they wanted to do was come over and say
like they like what you're doing, or they like this
thing you're a part of, and that's so kind.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
And so you know, and it's weird when you're a
teenager because you just are so.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Awkward, right, you're like navigating so much older.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
An older woman come up to me in Ikea, and
she didn't she didn't speak I don't remember where she was.
English was not her native language. And she was telling
me sort of with with more like gestures than words,
that she likes the show and you know, and then
she grabbed my face and she kissed me on the mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It was, And I thought, and I remember telling Terry
about it, because I was like, I had a crazy
experience at KIA over the weekend, you know, and it
pray all good stories exactly. It wasn't yeah, it wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I don't know. Anyway, he was like, you know, I
think that might be a difference between being an adult
on this show and being a kid on this show,
because I don't think an adult I don't think someone
would do that to one of us, right, And I
thought that was so interesting because you know, people felt
they feel differently about kids.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I think in a way they especially if he was
an older woman, and it was well meaning. It was
just like boundaries be gone.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh my god, kiss the stranger child on my mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I was like, no, well, yeah, we've had people like
give us their babies and like they were like, can
you sign my baby? And we were like, I'll sign
a shirt on your baby. I'm not signing your baby.
Like the baby's skin.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, I know, okay, and that was after just like
one episode, like we are really not worth that?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I imagine relegating Andrea. Yes, you
were a role model. Thanks, that's true.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I learned so much from watching those And it wasn't
like you would talk about it. I was just I
would just like observe, right, And you know, when you're
out with friends and you get stopped or like mobbed
a little bit, it can be a little awkward and funny.
You've just never made it a thing. It was. You
were always so nice to people, so it was and
(41:49):
good job. Yeah, I expect nothing less.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Do you feel like now because people are rewatching it again,
you feel like you're getting recognized again more like there
are phases where Kevin and I will be like, something's
happening in the Glee world because nobody notices where we are,
and then everybody notices where you are.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah. Yeah, you know it's interesting because we've had a
steady there hasn't been that like how do I say this,
There hasn't been a super long stretch of time where
there's nothing like there's always you know, I think it
depends obviously, like in La maybe not as much or
whatever when you're trying when you're abroad, like watching you know,
(42:30):
it's like the timeline is different over there that I'm.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Like, oh, wow, yeah the first time.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I don't really know, yes, but I do think maybe maybe,
like in the past year or so, there's it's found
a younger audience again, because I've noticed that the people
who have come up to me, they're trending younger. Or
maybe I'm obviously trending older, So like whos I don't
know how people just see younger.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Also, something's happening in like the gay world where all
of a sudden, like they're either rewatching it or watching
it for the first time.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Crazy, I'm like, you come on first time.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I know. Well they make those are the younger ones
because the rewatching people like around my age.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah okay, okay, yeah, but yesterday I was doing I
went to Wasteland and I was trying to sell my
clothes you know, spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
They didn't take anything. They never did. Don't you hate
that when you do that You wait in the line
and then they don't take any of it.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
So personal too, they like, look at your boot and.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
It's as good as that.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I know. I give it to Austin. I'm like, if
you want to go try to sell this. They took
one thing, like I told you, I know, they.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Like three dollars and then they try to give you
an explanation, which I'm sure they are supposed to, but
I'm like, I don't want to hear why you know
I'm worth this store like it's They're like, it's not
really in season. I'm like, I know, that's.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
But the season does come back.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I was like, hello, the nineties are back, so just
hold on for twenty years. They're like, you know, dish well,
They're like the condition of the stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
And I was like, woman und over and.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Was like, I'm sorry, I just have to ask are
you an actress?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And I was again she was like are you Julie?
And I was like, are you Julie? Yeah, and then
she goes, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, I should bring you out and who I'd be
really popular.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Oh yes, two of you together, forget it together.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Actually we'll just charging so charging.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
For a photo West Hollywood Cone at the Abbey.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
We just said m a con Julie Meyer bad idea
all of our favorite shows.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Very specific.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Actually everyone there'd be like, it's just Kevin, we see
him here every weekend.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, maybe, yeah, sure, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Bring both of you.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, So if you say a you auditioned for maybe
auditioned for Lee, or you don't remember which part did
you have to sing?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
What did you sing?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I think it was a self.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Tape probably, but like I wouldn't remember.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Saying it because I was working, and I do remember
singing something, and I want to say it was Sarah.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Burrellas choice, good choice. We didn't do enough. Soa show.
What if you got cast? What would you have wanted
to sing on our show? What do you want to pop?
Would you want to Broadway?
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Broadway Baby, Broadway Baby?
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah? Because you know, in my personal life, I don't
sing a lot of musical theater these days. Yeah, so
i've in the last few weeks I have. While I
went to Steven Sonheim's old friends for my birthday A
life like you guys.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It was one of the most Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
I went with my brother Cameron and Molly and we
were We just sat there and held hands and cried
and like rands, like we had a full new rebirth
of like what about it? Yes, lay as Langa Bernarda
Peters like, oh, come on, like are we It felt
like it was designed for me and and your Yeah.
(46:16):
But the amazing thing is that felt like everyone who
was there felt that way. No one who was there
was therese people don't just like buy that ticket specific,
so it was really transcendent and incredible. I also went
and saw a concert of Rent.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Weekend.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah brother performs in this cabaret thing, and I went
and saw that, which is all musical theater. So, like
I say, so, answer that question, I definitely would have
been Broadway. I mean ideally would have been Sondheim.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Because with Kevin, definitely Time, definitely definitely son.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Teim or or okay, because you know I'm a big
taped answer. Yes, I would have liked to tap her tune.
I don't even know if you guys ever did that,
but well.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Our choreographer pitched a tap number for Tina for me.
To our writers was like, give her a top hat,
give her a kinge, give her a big number. And
instead they gave They were like, yeah, we did it.
We gave her soft shoe and I was like, that's
not the same. It's not the same. Now, I will
say the episode was great and it was like one
(47:27):
of mine and Kevin's like big episodes, and it was like,
it was great. So it worked and his number was
he sang on it. It was great, but I was
a little disappointed that it didn't turn out to be
a tap number. But yes, and then we did Lindsay Peers,
who from the Glee Project. She did Anything Goes and
they did it top and that was I.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Would like maybe something I feel on I'm forty second Street.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yes, I feel that shoes.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Let me let me bring I have missed opportunity. I'm
so upset into it. I'm so upset.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It would have been fun.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Could you like it? We got to sing together, I mean,
or I would have done an n LT song.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Why didn't we do any Nobody knew who we were
because you were not like them, because you were not
like not like them, not the true successful.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
We are getting towards the end of the series, and
obviously things have happened outside of the show in real life,
things have happening in the show, and when you get
towards the end of the show, it's less popular. Normally
the maybe the storylines have gotten a little kookie or crazy.
(48:53):
It feels like for us it felt different, like yeah, yeah,
it feels as Darren poetically once said, it feels like
hat with a broken leg trying to cross the road.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I wonder you know, for you towards the end of
the show, did you feel that difference.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yes, I think it did feel different. I think it
felt different the last the last season. It was a
surprise that we were ending. That was that came a
surprise to us. We we kind of all thought we'd
go I think we thought we were gonna have three
more seasons.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh wow, that's a huge change.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, that was kind of it was.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
It was a shock and and.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
And I think that we didn't have tons of time
to process that we were actively filming the last year.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
So we find out in the middle of the season
that it was going to be your last.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Now that's a good question of when it was we
found out. Okay, Well I want to say this, and
then I feel like I need to be able to
back this up, so I should say that I'm don't
take it with a grayish of salt, like a like
a bigger one though, like a Malden. Yes, I think
I think I found out in the trades. Oh man, Yeah,
(50:13):
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure we found out when
everyone found out, And so I don't know if we were.
It must have been before we started our last season,
I don't know, but but I remember that table read
after it had been announced and what that felt like,
and it felt it felt definitely sad and and and
(50:38):
maybe unfinished a little which is kind of different than
like feeling like it's going like this totally, you guys,
there was more to do. I mean, look, we had
eight wonderful seasons and we had covered the ground of
what could happen, what catastrophes could happen on one single
neighborhood street. So you know, it's fine. I think it
(50:59):
was good that we went out when it was still
going well. Yeah, but I definitely felt a shift. And
also we had had some we had had some stuff
going on personally, you know on the show where there
were you know, media frenzy coverage of things happening that
(51:21):
was happening simultaneously, which definitely affected.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
I think the way it felt a little bit of
the morale a little bit.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
And so there's this there's a there was footage shot
though of our I'm sure there was of you guys too.
Did they shoot like what it was like on the
last episode? And yeah, yes, and I haven't though I
haven't done a rewatch, I did see that at one
point over the past ten years or whatever, and that
was so emotional, Yes, so emotional and watching how emotional
(51:54):
we all were, Yes, forgotten.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
The show ends with Terry and I driving down the
street like in our car with my baby in the
back seat and my little brother, you know in the car,
and she asks like should I should I take one
more drive down the lane? And you know, I think,
I say, like go for it or something, and she
drives down and the street is lined with everybody who
(52:21):
has passed away, like all the characters that have passed away,
dressed in white, and we're like driving down and they're
just standing there kind of guiding us as we leave
Wasteria Lane forever, you know, And that like that was
not the last day of everybody filming. That was Terry
in my last day. And there was the last day
I believe of filming on Wasteria Lane, like interiors on
(52:44):
a stage.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
More on location.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
So Oh my god, it was. It was a magnitude
of what we were feeling was so big and for
me just personally, like it did feel I was I
started the show thirty we wrapped, I was either just
turned twenty three because of the gap, so like eight
years was kind of ten years of my life right crazy,
(53:08):
And it felt like, I guess I felt the way
that some people feel when they are done with college
or something, you know what I mean, right, big collaborative
recognition of something ending and a chapter that's over and
you're and and it was mimicked by what we were filming.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
And it was just like it was.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
It was really heavy and.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Charged and you know, it was sweet and sad and
so many different things.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
So yeah, Wow, I love that you and Terry are
still close like that, Like what a special bond you've
been able to. It's also so much you guys were
a big ensemble like we were. Yeah, And so to
have strengthened numbers like emotionally, yeah, show through these sorts
of things, the highs and lows are made so much
(53:57):
better being able to share that with other people.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Yeah. And I am so grateful to Terry for so
many years of mentorship and friendship and support and laughter
and experiences. And you know, it's one thing to go
through a show with somebody by your side, and it's
(54:20):
another thing to grow up on a show with knowing,
you know, to feel safe and secure because.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Someone has your back.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
And I mean, yeah, our friendship has only grown as
we've as we've both gotten older. And we were laughing
because my birthday just passed and she was saying, you know,
we were talking on my birthday about how like I
was like, can we believe I'm thirty five? It's weird?
Speaker 4 (54:46):
And she was like no, because I like I'm sixty
and I was like, I know.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
I was at her forty, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
It's weird, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
And you know, she's just and she's an incredible and
incredible person and I am so lucky that I got
to be her daughter. You know, for all those you.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Turned out iconic normal. Well, you know, I mean that's fine. Yeah, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
Know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
We always ask all of our cast members and crew members,
what is the feeling that Glee leaves you with? But
I think I'll just ask you, like, what's the feeling
that Desperate House Eyes like leaves you with. Wow hmmm,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (55:38):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Pride.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
I guess I feel really proud to have been a
part of that show. I think it struck at just
a perfect time. You know, Network television, as you guys know,
has changed so much. It changed so much while we
were all on our shows, and it was a really
(56:01):
cool time to be in people's houses every week. And
and so I'm super proud. I'm super proud to have
been among those storytellers and to have gotten to uh.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
To entertain people for that long. So yeah, I think that. Yeah,
that's a really good answer. And I wish part of
you guys, I really do. I missed opportunity truly. No,
I know, Andrew, thank you so much for being We
could literally talk for three hours.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
But yeah, I know it's true.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Somewhere the sun will just move.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'm honored.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
I'm honored to get to hang out with you guys, and.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
I knowsional capacity. It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
It was a very good at your jobs, by the way,
keep it you keep it moving in give Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
So it's easy when it's do yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Super easy. It was it was so fun. Oh thanks,
thanks for coming on. Love you guys, bye, love you bye.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
What a joy, And like the experiences are obviously very.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
Different but also similar, Like there's the same sentiment about
like being on a show for that long and like
growing up on a show and so fully yeah you.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Know, And honestly like her answer for what do de
house I leave you with? I think that would probably
be my answer for Yeah, Glee, No, for sure, Yeah
it does. She's just one of my favorite people. Like
I said, thank you Andrea for coming on. Everyone go
do it is her Housewives rewatch?
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh my god, I'm about to.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
That's what you're miss.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
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