Luenell

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Angie Martinez in Real Life podcast. We're shooting our episode
right now with the amazing Lunell, who is here, which
I'm so excited about today.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm stoked, are you? Yes?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
So I got I'm gonna tell the room.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I got a video from DJ Envy Well was on
the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Hey, Angie, this is your girl, Lunell, the original backgirl
of comedy. I'm year with these foods at the Breakfast
Club and I'm sorry I can't see you. I'll be
here tomorrow, but I'm miss you again. I just want
to tell you that I'm really enjoying your podcast. I
think your Laurya London interview was the interview I had
been waiting for. And if you ever wanted to do
a deep dive into who I am and check me

(00:41):
out and have me on, I'd be glad to come on.
I think you're a boss that I've been loving you
a long time.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Keep up the good way.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I was so fluttered.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I watched more than Lawrence, but I just thought that
the interview she did with you was the best one
for me, and people like me did a great job.
I thought you felt very well lax, with you very vulnerable,
with you, and you know, as a person in that community,
in the sixties area, and as a person who used

(01:09):
to go to the Marathion shop, I bought the vape.
You know, we've had our CDs in the same record store.
And I missed him, but I was able to get
the great, big, giant Nipsey poster with his autograph, which
is in my living room. I asked him, could to
have it, but I never got to get with him.

(01:31):
But we mourned so bad after that happened so bad,
like literally it felt like the birds weren't even chirping
the same that we need, we as a regular people,
I felt we needed, we needed something to hold on
to and that was Lauren. And when she came to
your podcast, and we could feel how she felt and

(01:54):
we were feeling you know, we couldn't feel how she felt,
but we felt certain type of ways too, And you know, community,
you want to have a community when you're going through
something like that. So I thought you did a really
good job on her, and she was really great, really great.
But before that, you know, anybody who's been around for

(02:15):
the entire fifty years of hip hop knows you because
you've been in the culture from the gate, and you know,
from being in rap and from having radio shows like
I've seen you all my life and you're still beautiful.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
A boss is still relevant.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
And that's why I didn't think you knew me, I said,
she don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Why would you think.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
That you've been at this? How many years have you
been at this? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But you know, the East Coast.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I would always be hip to people from the West Coast,
and the West Coast don't definitely not hip to everybody
in the East Coast. And I'm a West Coast chick period.
And I go to New York, but I'm not of
New York, even though I like men from.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
New York with the cameras. I love men from New York.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Wait, where are you original? As you were born?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
You weren't born, were born in Arkansas, raised in Oakland, California.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
In the May area. May area, girl, it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
And you got the residency there.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So so the crazy thing is when so you were coming,
I was looking at a bunch of your interviews and
watching and realizing, like, we have a lot of similar
situations within this business.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Right, I saw that you wanted to do a night.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
You want to be late I want to be the
next black one late night television.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Always I was going to be no daytime. I was
going to be daytime. He was going to be late night.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I never want daytime.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I never want I'm too scared of late night. I'm
scared of late night.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, I'm scared of the daytime.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Really, I'm totally gonna get counseled the media housewives and.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
You know, I know you have to be able to
do stand up to do late night because people expect
a full comedic presentation.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Of what they just they do.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, where in the day you don't have to do
that right that?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Like see, I would not come out on my show
with a monologue, and I'm not doing it like that.
I want my show to be more like you know,
there used to be a show called Playboy after Dark
Hugh Hefner and had a bunch of bitches and liquor
and piano and times like uh uh, singers and poets
and yeah, and everybody just be juicing around and he

(04:23):
would come up and talk to him and it's just
easy peasy, like a party sort of like my my
comedy shows are.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
So that's what That's what your late night show will be.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I would have wanted to be like that, But
what is the struggles?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Because I feel we have the same Has anybody this
disheartened your vision of that?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
No? Fuck him. Really, the Lord has finally revealed to me.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I've been bucking bucking against the Lord all my life,
but the Lord has finally revealed to me in my
golden years, which unfortunately I'm in him fortunately unfortunately, but
the Lord has revealed to me that I'm going to
get everything I want.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
So I don't have any worries anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You say? You him, Well, you know, going to church
and shit like that. I don't like.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Doing it, but I did it, and I'm just doing
shared and regretting it on Sunday and saying you're gonna
change your live and fucking it up again by Tuesday,
and you know, going through that cycle for.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I feel you've had many lives. Oh yeah, I want
to talk about some of those today, some of the best,
and so you still you still want that, you still
believe it, even even in the world where the systems
are set up the way they're set up, you still.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, here's the deal. I really want to be on
like channel four.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, you know, I want to be like Where the
Where the White Boys are? Me too, you know, But
George Lofez and our Senio, we both had late night shows,
said Mitch, you crazy and I'm never gonna let you
on network TV with that mouth, that attitude. They said,
maybe Revolt or you know, maybe you know HBO where
you have to subscribe to se me and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You still want like Prime, you want like a cable.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I know that I want that, But I think being
more realistic is what they said. And for me to
be more comfortable and authentic and be able to be myself.
I think that the people who in follow me, if
they saw me get milk toast for network, I would
lose them. They want me to stay authentic to who
I am.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
So you have given up that idea of doing that.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I've been given it, but I just don't. I don't
think it suits me like I think it should.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
My whole life, I wanted to do daytime TV. I
thought that was gonna be my next thing. Then they
told me they're gonna ruin you. You're gonna have to
You're gonna have to bend and compromise so much.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
That you they just didn't come out and say no
because you Puerto Rican and they're not gonna let you
on daytime TV. That's what they really should have just
came out to say it instead of bullshit.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
It was.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I don't know it was because of how I told
you believe them, like you can't believe any of this smoke.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
These motherfuckers are blowing up your ass. You have to
know what it is. You're street ass bitch, and you
know if you're not gonna let me, you know, funk,
all the politically correct and all that ship, don't look
me in the eye and tell me, well, we feel
that the demographic and the numbers say because you're fat
and you're black and you're old, and we don't want
you say that. I respect that. That's what honest, you know,

(07:17):
because you know that I had their foot on minorities
next all this time at a minority female.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
They wish we'd all go away, just go away.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Be I guess I guess what I'm asking.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I know, No, No, it's your experience. No, but I
I had to read pivot what I wanted and what
did I want out of that? So I'm not gonna
be I don't fit the little daytime pleasant time.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
So I figure out okay, just.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Like I could see, I don't really know even what
the problem istime at all. I know you want to
do night time. I think that's a better world than
the perfect world I would be. I would be on
NBC doing daytime TV, and then at night you would
be doing the nighttime.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
That is a perfect world, right, Yes you heard that. Lord.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
By the way, hell will freeze over the following months.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Already frozen over, hasn't it? With Donald Trump for president?
You know what I.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Should never guess. I should never done anything.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Shit the Cotdom jumped over the moon and all.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
That shit, Well that happens, listens, bananas.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
So who are you and how did you become this?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I don't know? Start me as a kid, like what
kind of kid were you?

Speaker 4 (08:31):
First of all, Andrew Martinez, Yes, you're not gonna make
me cry in this bit, no saving it for the book,
but anyway, but I will tell you. What I can
tell you is I didn't start out like this.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
No aggressive woman really wants.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
To be that way with that way, because we've had
to be that way all our life. We wish somebody
would come on a fucking white Horse and soften us
the fuck up and take care of us and you know,
take out the fashion do all that type of stuff
we wish to day would come along. But if they don't,
in the meantime, I gotta get done. Plus being from Oakland, California,
Like you're from the you're from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, you ain't walk in the fucking park. You know.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know we we have we are edgy, and that's
just a survival thing.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think, what.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Were you surviving?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
What is the thing?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
What is what makes you that way? Because there's plenty
of people.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
From Oakland to put people from Brooklyn that are soft
and not really you know, yes, there are everybody hands
us from Oakland.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Everybody handles maybe about ten I know about ten soft bitches.
Is hardcore, beautiful and just tough. Yeah, because I can't
go into everything because there's so much fucked up shit,
you know, like I've survived murder, murder, murder, murder, murder
all through my life. My niece is over there, she knows,

(09:55):
she's been through it. My father was murdered, my sister
was murdered.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know. Yeah, so you know there's.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Things behind every comedian's you know, they say that there's
a bunch of shit back here. Yeah, if you're a
great comedian, you can be a good comedian and you
could have had a lovely life and you just do material.
But to be great, I feel you had to went
through some ship.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Do you do?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You not?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And I don't want to put I'll push you as
much as you want to go. I'm not trying to
push you past your but like.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
What when we be here for three hours, this would
turn to a whole psyche sech fucking went around with
me with all my ship anyway, That's.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Not a small thing. Though, to be a kid and
have to deal with that, is that the root of
like I don't know just who you are and how
you how much you fought all these years.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
And well it played a big part for me. Like
my brothers and sisters are over because it didn't affect
them like it affected me. I'm the youngest young Our
seven brothers and sisters are all older than me, and
we weren't raised together. When my father got killed, I
got adopted out of the family. That's a a whole

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nother ship and ended up in oak and they stayed
in Arkansas. So you know, we're a family, of course
when blood and we love each other, but we're vastly different,
and there was never around to like defend me or
protect me, or stick up for me or you know,
oh it's not on your own, motherfucking right.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
So they snatched you from your older brothers and sisters.
You got child trauma and then you and they drop
you in oak? Do you are you careful about? Like?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Do you ever share those stories?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I talk about more than my family wants me to
talk about, and I still don't talk about it all.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Have you had to work on yourself?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like? Have you had to work on that? Or you
just leave it there and comedy through it?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I need work, need a little work.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You planned on doing that anytime?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
So whatever?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
You know, I went to see a therapist from my
abandonment issue. Am my therapists abandonedments motterfucker. I don't know
what happened to him. He just never made no more
appointments than he was gone whatever. So I'm gonna try
to find you know, maybe at some point I think
that I won't try to go into therapy until I get.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Like a really deep movie role.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think I should go into therapy then, because I'm
so comedic it's hard for me to focus outside of comedy.
But if they wanted me to play something like, you know,
something really rich, I would do therapy at the same
time because it would bring all that shit up and
I could emote all that into the character.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
That doesn't scare you, Yes, very scared.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, because you've been suppressing it for all these it's
a long time of not bringing it up. I'm just
saying I'm not trying to therapy you right now, but
I'm just saying, that's a lot, that's a long time.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Nobody gives a fuck at the end of the day
that nobody cares.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
About what about your story?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Because everybody's got the story, Like, bitch, you try to
tell somebody what ha you bitch your daddy got killed,
my brother shot, My daddy didn't kill herself. You know,
everybody trying to I'll do somebody with your I'm not
into that game.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I'm not. You know, everybody's got their own shit.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
And then you know why, I hope that's not true.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It is true to a certain extent.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I mean, there are people who know everything about me. No,
I'm sure there are, And those are my friends that
I talk to them, and sometimes I don't talk to
them either.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I operate on a different system. I think that the
shit that focks us up in life, that when we
if we can somehow survive it and we somehow use
it to thrive, that sharing that information. Maybe they don't
care about the details of how it affects you so
much personally, but I do think sharing that information is helpful.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I agree with that, And that's what a one woman
show is for. I circle everything back to on the
stage because I came out in theater before I ever
even did stand up, And yeah, you know, I want
to do Broadway. I want to do a one woman's show.
I want to share my whole story. I want to
name names. Everybody will shut there when I get ready
to do my fucking thing, But when I do it,

(13:57):
I want.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
To do it balls out.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
You know what I'm saying. I don't want to play.
If I'm gonna share it, I'm gonna do it in
a in a space where it's gonna be out there.
You can reference it, you go back to it, so
I don't have to keep telling this shit over and
over and over and over and over.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I get that. Do you think really, people don't
care about anything?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Is that really?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Do you really walk around like that?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I feel like that, yeah, because I don't. You know,
a lot of people think I care, and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
I care about some shot. I can't care about every
goddamn thing. You know what I'm saying. I can't care
about I can't.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't believe you.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
I've done so much, so I've done a lot from
people that nobody even knows.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Everybody says that, but I have little you know, things
I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
You know, I don't believe you, just from the short
period I know you well because first of all, you
walked in and you gave me so much love and
told me so much great stuff, and then you went
on proceeded to tell me how you were affected by
Nipsey's death and how everything you said was it was
just cared. It was cared about Nick, cared about Lauren,
cared about the fact that maybe she.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Can care about them.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I don't care about some of my friends and there problem.
That's what I'm talking about. I care about them. I
don't care about all this other shit. You know, everybody
got problems. I don't want to hear it I don't
want to hear it. Don't tell me because now you
want me to help you solve it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's a low key, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
By me telling you my problems, that gives you responsible
people certain responsiblity.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
People they're telling you because they want you to help them.
I don't care, and I'm not helping.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm done.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I'm fresh out of favors. I don't pay back every motherfucker.
I owe money too. I don't done good things. I
don't done good things, good things, good things for people.
And I'm just you know, I'm fresh out of favors.
If I do anything, it's because I want to. Like
if I go to your house and I see you
don't have no food, and my friend, I'm gonna take you.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Let's go get some food. But if I go to
your house, you be like, show is hung greed, you know, like,
don't drop a lug on me. You know what I'm saying.
I got eyes. I hate that shit.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You don't like being manipulated.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I'm not gonna be minute. I've been manipulated a million
it is.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
That is my pet peeven life. I don't like what
people try to manipulate me.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I don't like that. That's when I buck up. But
I don't like I don't like my heart fucked with
at all. Yeah, and then I only got only got
two reactions. I'm gonna be crushed and devastated or I
want to fuck you up some kind of way, And
I'm trying not.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
To do that shit no more.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
And you shouldn't do that. You gotta be the best
version of yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
That you could be. Boo.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I just want to be my authentic and my authentic
version has gotten me some respect in this game, not
just because who Knowell's loud and brass. But I back
up all this shit I say. If I say that,
I'm not afraid to follow now motherfucking the game on stage,
I'm not. If I say that I'm gonna pick your
kids up and take you take them to the park,

(16:45):
I'm going to do that. But if I say I'm
gonna come over there and I'm gonna fuck you up,
I'm going.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
To do that. You know, be afraid. And I've been
to jail. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I don't want to go again. These only couples I'm
trying to wear. But if you fucked with my heart. Figure,
you gotta gollbitches on. Don't fuck with my heart. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You're such a softy.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I know.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I wish the men do that. They're so scared of me.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Chell. What was that time? Like, how old were you
when you went to jail?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
It was like four months, right, I was like thirty six. Oh,
you're in your thirties. You were grown.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, but I got caught when I was grown. But
I did it years before, just.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Living life, illegal life, on the run.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
You know, Giona didn't start that ship. I've been on
the run. Sorry, be hot, I've been on the run.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
What is Jill like for you? At thirty six?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
That was horrible. It was the worst thing. It was
hell hell, hell, hell, hell. Like to talk about that.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
I have so many fucked up things about jail. The
moment you see the lights in your rear view mirror,
it's all downhill after that, baby, Oh oh.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
They I don't know how you got to run.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I got rested at the house. They came and got me.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I jumped the fence and went around the building, but
they came around the other side and they got me,
and then.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I got I got popped in uh.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
In the Bay Area, and they had to I went
to three jails in the Bay Area before I got
Extra diety too. They had to come get me from
LA bring me back to Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know right away, Oh this is gonna suck. This
is gonna suck.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, you would know too. You ever been to jail. Jail?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I can't, and I'm closerphobic. It would be the worst experience.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And not all are you lose your mother whole mind
fucking it's the worst you'd I'd rather somebody set you
on fire then put you in jail. You can hear
from that, but going to jail, you might not. Never
tell me the worst part. The worst part for me
was I had just had my kid. So my kid
was like not even a year. So I missed her

(18:51):
first Halloween and I missed her first Thanksgiving. I got
out right before her first Christmas. You know, having a
new kid and going to gym be and separate. You
don't know if the blankets are from at night, you
don't know if their feet are warm, and drives you insane.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
You cry every day.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh yeah, people know who You weren't famous yet, Oh
yes I was.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
They were saying, what's some comic view year comic view?
You know, because I comic view had been out, so
it's going so they you know, I wasn't like now,
but it was our big shit in jail. Yeah, I
appreciate everything. I appreciate. Every time I get in my bathdrob,
I just say thank you Jesus. You know, the showers
in jail, it's like somebody's spitting on you. It's not

(19:34):
plush streams of water. It's drizzling, ratchet bullshit. And you know,
I'm just happy for salting pepper, especially salt. Sorry, I'm
very happy for a pillow. I'm happy for all that shit.
Going to the bathroom with our ten bitches looking at
you the fuck you're looking at you?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Went there?

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, because this ship had they call them shower sharks,
should be lurking around like she got your fucking mind.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Listen, listen.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I was only gonna have one fight in jail, and
no I didn't because the girls, my girls helped me down.
No Miss Campbell, no Miss Campbell. And this brother looked
like George Jefferson, all last bitch. And then I had
a cell maid and I'm tiny, and tiny was a
big some morning. She about twenty three years old, had

(20:26):
like five kids. She's giant, beautiful ass Hawaiian. Some more
bitch as she said every day, Miss Gumbo, let's go exercise.
I said, tiny, I don't feel like exciting. Okay, don't
make me pick you up, Miss Gumbo. Shit like that
give you a little bit of joy. But the rest
of the shit was bullshit because people be hollering at you.
Used to be fighting and you know, you know you

(20:51):
have cell mates, they're not well.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Like I had a selling that was on heroin.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
This bitch convulsed, bounced out the motherfucking you know, the
fucking bunch flat right by me, broken fucking arm, hair on.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Junkie ass bitch.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I'm like, help help me, I'm sorry, help me, God,
what the fuck this is?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
You know?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
So I if you don't find some humor in that
ship later, you will totally like you know, I.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Mean the stories.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Do you find humor and everything?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Everything?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ever?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Anything you didn't find humor in?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Ever?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
At my mother's funeral, if I was cracking the fuck up,
really yeah, people were rubbing my back and they thought
I was crying. My mother's friend wanted to sing at
the fucking funeral. I'm distraught, so I agree to let

(21:49):
this no sing and ask beer sing at my mama's funeral.
This miss five verses of flat off to I'm in
the front of the casket, is right there. I'm like,
my mama, it's gonna rise about this motherfucking slapt the
shit and I'm letting. She's singing and it's hilarious. So yeah,
my mama's funeral.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You know, so never never a time in your life
where humor is off limits.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
No, save my life, I have to think that way.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, I don't kill somebody, and it's just I
either am raging the fuck out or I'm gonna find
something funny about this shit. And I don't have to
find it. It's just there, we see it, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
So it really saved you.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
You saved it absolutely.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I wonder what your future therapist is gonna say about that.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
They're running from me right now. They're like, not me, motherfucker.
You can have it, but I got time fucking with
you now and this shit.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So if you have if humor in comedy is and everything,
even the sad moments, what about like in romance, is
it there too?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Like is there nothing sacred of like.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Like if a man was like, look at you did
in your eye trying to be real serious and romantic?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Is there humor in that too for you?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
He can't take it. You can't take it. No, you
can't take it.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I could be romantic and shit, but that told me
you done it. That's part of the romance.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Life.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Don't need to be included in the romance. If I
meet a mother, if I'll give a fuck, how good
you look. If you don't have a sense of humor,
we're done, said, and you gotta get my sense of
humor or you're gonna be all in your feelings and shit,
you know it's really funny.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
So humor all the time? Does it bother you if
something if you can't find something funny?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, because I always can. You always t It's a gift.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
It is.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's like being able to play the piano. I don't
have to find it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I can.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's just there. Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Do you feel the pressure to be funny?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Ever? No?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, it's some comedians. I feel like it's hard. Like
when I'm trying to interview somebody and it's it's like
they can't.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
They can't turn it off.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, but it's more of an act team.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Trying too hard.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, it's like they're always performing.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Because it's not their gift. They're just doing it. Yeah,
if it's a gift, you can control it. H like
the gift that Stevie Wonder has in playing the piano.
You know when to play louder, when to bring it down.
You can't even see the keys.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's a gift.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
So when did you find it? When did you know
that's what it was?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Take me back?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Thar me as a kid in Oakland.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Okay, for eighty percent of my life. It's pretty fabulous
for a ghetto bitch, you know what I'm saying. I'm
not on the yachts. I don't go to the illuminati
white party and all that shit.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Did you talk much? But you do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
You're gonna be the nighttime host.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
About the right, right. No, I've been I've been to
a Diddy party before. It's fabulous. I don't be out
on these jats and doing all that before. A chick
who came from where I came from. I'm doing very well, right,
and so I have the a couple of you know,
property things and like a video recording studio in Sherman Oaks,

(24:58):
and then I have a your Primate in the Krensyard district,
and then I have my house in the Krenstar District,
and I have my house that I bought in Vegas,
and I have the residency in Vegas, and I'm on
the road and I got you know, Netflix special coming
out and all this kind of stuff. But at the
end of the day, like after Sunday Monday, when I

(25:20):
do Vegas, and then Tuesday morning, my sister leaves and
goes home because I don't need them during the week,
and you're home by myself, And well, actually I like
it a lot because if I'm by myself from last Vegas,
it's the peace that I never knew that I needed.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
It's very very beautiful, very comfortable, very lavish for me,
and it's a very zen, great fun spot. I oftentimes
wish there was somebody in there with me to swim
in the pool or to shoot pool with, or to

(26:02):
watch a movie with with my new surround sound. But
then half of me says, do you really, bitch, do
you really want that? Or do you just having a
moment because you know you get so used to being
by yourself that I don't want I don't want that
like that, I want that like that. You know what
I'm saying. I don't want any of that. And I'm

(26:23):
like that because I just got displaced. It's really really nice.
It's rebby. You know, it's decorated like a decorator would do,
and you know it's nice, and I did it myself,
and I would love I don't give a fuck about
just a little, you know, maybe a little weekend thang.
But you know, do I want Do I want a
mate again? I don't know. I flirt, I put myself

(26:46):
out there. I would love to date and all that
kind of stuff. But do I really want you?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Do I really? That's the question.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
And I would love to say yes, but I don't
think that it is yes.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I sleep it like nineteens in the bed with me.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I got a backscratcher, I got my I got my
I phone, I have my glasses, two remote, a bottle
of water, and all kinds of ship.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Can you get into bed with me with all my ship?
Because I need all this ship? Well, I guess I.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Wouldn't need to backscratcher if I had a man baby,
scratch my back scratch they might get one of them
sleeping motherfuckers that that. Oh God, see, I need you
to be attentive. I need you to know if I
fell out the bed, you know what I'm saying. I
mean all this stuff with that, I don't got left
her house and you know, fucking gone.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I want that. I'm telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, I know you are, I know you, but that's
your humor.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Truth. Yeah, my humor is the truth.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
But how would you even know?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Have you ever been in like a long term, healthy,
like healthy, healthy relationship? No? Okay, because we all have
to learn that from somebody.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
We all have to. Okay, I my girlfriend just got
married at like sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Sixty six, like sixty six, happy as a fucking teenager.
So you know, the Lord will will Well what I
said that here is revealed to me everything that I'm
gonna that I want. If I wanted that, I should
pray about that and then I might get that. Right now,
I feel pretty defeated, and I said, Damn, I guess
I'm at the age where I'm just gonna have to

(28:27):
settle for like a little random fuck here and there,
and that love is not in the cards for me
no more, you know, really yeah, I feel like I
just am a slave to the people.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Does that make you sad a little bit?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
You know, because they.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Change your mind? Things change, you never know, you never know.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Or girl, if you go on my d I'm telling
the people who like me, I do not like them.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Who they're older, they're chuviier than me. That's a no.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I'm already just ch everyone, So that's you know, it's
not gonna work. And then that way down in the country,
they got like seven posts and photeeth followers, soccer bought whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And I like regular dudes.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I like regular, regular guys. But at this point I
don't no more because I've rode with regular guys all
my life. I've rolled with them, you know what I'm saying,
hard working regular dues. I've never had to have a dude,
never was able to obtain a dude with money. I've
always wanted to be squired around. I want to go
to the game and sit in the court side too.

(29:31):
I want to fly on the jet. I want to
do all that fun stuff that has not happened, that
has only happened by people I work with.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
In my own tuition.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
But at this point in my life, I am no
longer just down. You work at the motherfucking you know,
dispensary or some shit like that, and I got his purse.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You can get some busy bitch. You can't be my man,
you got it. I will fuck from pre roads how
you it's my thing.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
You're talking about your age though, when you're talking about
like where you're at it now? How are you age? Like?
How do you process age and aging and being not well?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I I mean I do like share sure hates it?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Does she really yes? Did she say that?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
That's probably when she got that young, had the young
that was.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Young black dick. I was like, gone, share, God, damn it.
And I'm not, you know, really all down that liberal.
But I just want women of a certain age to
still be appreciated, still be desired, still be sought after.
So you can like Coquettish as well. You know, every
woman still has that in no matter what the age

(30:42):
she is. You know, by the way, as women, we
don't get impident so long that's all.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
We got a longer run to go? Yeah, right to go.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I always ask people on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Usually I start the interview with that, but we were
talking about nipping the pot and all that. But I
ask people, how happy are you on a scale one
to ten? Right now? Today?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm an eight?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Really?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
How what about usually.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Usually about about an eight?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Really?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Have you ever been a ten?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Uh? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
What gets you to a ten?

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Well? I can spend time with my dumb had daughter
over here. That gets me to a ten. Oh, she's stupid.
And then when I can be left alone to block
out the white noise, you know, and just be into
you know, like some jazzes, you know, and and relax

(31:38):
and stuff like that, that gets.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You to a ten.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Standing in front of huge audiences like I have with
Kat Williams and Dave Chappelle, that's a big ten. And
then just you know, having a uh maybe a date
that's a ten to two.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
That's pretty great.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
What brings you low? What are the things that might
trigger low?

Speaker 4 (31:58):
When I can't spend any time with my dumblas's daughter
that bums me the fuck out, When I feel like
I'm not being.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Heard, that pisses me off.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
When I feel like nobody has got my back and
I know I'm right, that brings me down.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, And when I.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
See when I see people like not appreciating them their mother.
You know, like if I see people and they just
their mom need to go to the store, they won't take.
You know when you see that, that shit just I'm like,
you just.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Don't even know.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
One day you're gonna still regret that like it's nothing.
Even if they bits get on your nerve.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Take it to the.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Fucking store for crying upright, you know what I mean?
Like people who don't treat their mother right their cycles.
You should, ladies who's listening, you should never date a
motherfucking man who don't have a good relationship with his
mom or the women around him and no anties, no sisters,
and know nothing like that because they don't know how
to treat you and they are secret low down woman

(33:06):
haters inside because mommy did something to her they never
got over it. If a man is not clining to
his mom and his women's around him and stuff like that,
you better run the obsolute awake a. I turn it
right down your as.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Oh my god, you go so far with it, you
take everything so far it's an extredamn boom and then boom.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
How how is being a mother changed you?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
And saved my life for sure, because I was in
the stuet Okay, and I have a daughter. It's something
I thought I never could do. I never thought I
could be a mother physically or that I could why well,
because I had been out in them streets and I
hadn't got pregnant for years, so I thought I was
in the clear. But when my mother passed, I got

(33:55):
pregnant the next month.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh, she never got to meet and her grandmother.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
And so you know, I give you perrypists and you
think about something other than yourself. I mean, I still
think about itself, but I still think about you know, her,
and you put them first. You learn how to do
stuff like that, you know, and uh, it was great,
and they give me, give me more drive.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I want to prove something to her. I want to
be somebody to her. I want to have her be
able to hold her head up about the ship.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I fucking do, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
And and she can do that, you know, her mama
ain't no motherfucking hack. You know, there's some respect on
my name. And if they say that's lu Nell's daughter,
she she don't have no problems in these streets because
fuck with her and then here I come. Don't nobody
want that? No, mother, you don't want to fuck with
no bitterly listen. I've seen some Instagram moms lately, wing

(34:47):
Ham and Anne Jamna.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
You go hand for yours.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know I got two boys seventeen twenty. It's the
but also your achilles heel, like the kids is what
really could kill you?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Take you down?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
My daughter.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I've died one thousand deaths Angie. My daughter owes me
one five million dollars.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I understand easily, easily for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
She had no loan, paid all that shit.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I know we didn't go.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
We did, we did good.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I can't wait till they have kids.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
No, it's horrible. It's the deepest love. But then it's
also the most frustrated.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I remember when my kid was born and he you know,
when their first baby, and you're just looking at them
like praying they don't stop breathing. I'm looking at his
chest go like this, and I remember for the first
month I couldn't sleep. I was always like, is he breathing?
I put my hand over his mouth, and I was like, okay,
when does this part?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I know, I'm glad to even hear you say that,
because I did the same thing. I didn't even let
her sleep in the backs of that She slept right here.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Period.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Also not that safe when you fall asleep at your baby,
sound good? I felt good. But I did the same thing.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I did the same They told me it wasn't safe.
I did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
But he fuck them. We even little kids in like that. First,
you're right A million years no.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was waiting for that moment to end. I was like, Okay, well,
when does the panic stop? And then one day I realized,
oh shit, never and that had a full like I
don't know. That shit fucked me up, Like I really
didn't know. Nobody prepared me for that. That for the
rest of your life.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
My mama had died. I didn't even have my mama
to help me.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
You know what I'm saying. I thought my child was
bow legged. Come to find out her once these were
too small.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Oh, my friend's.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Mom cut her feet out of them, and her legs
straighten out. I'm like, oh my god, literally saying, oh
my god, I believe something wrong with her legs.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
You to fuck with the cut their feet out of
the legs with lips like I'm like, oh, well, she's fine,
she's fine. Shit.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I had learned you say that with laughter, But that
could not be easy.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Were you close with your mom? Were you close?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I know it's complicated, clearly right it was.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I was not close with my birth mother.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
So I was close with the mother who raised me,
but not as close as I am with my daughter.
Because the generation before me, we're not huggers. They were
not loving, not like that. It's more like, you got
everything you need, You're good, Okay, but you know, sitting
up cuddled up under a blanket watching a movie. No,
we never did none of that. I'm sorely deprived of

(37:21):
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
So when you say your mom, are you talking about
laughing at the funeral?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Are you talking about your biological.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
My mother that raised me, your mother that raised you?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Got it? And what do you say about that? What
is I don't know what you share about that story?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Is that a no?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
My with my my my father when my mother had
seven kids, got it? Okay, So then she was pregnant
with me, so her I'm the eighth.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
So then her husband, all of our dad got murdered
by her brother when she was pregnant with me. So
now her husband's gone and her brother's gone to jail,
and she's pregnant with the eighth kid. So you would
have thought with seven kids to help you. Even though
she was living in her she had the move in
with her parents and they had kids.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
It's just all cramped, you know, like just like in
the South, in the in the country, in the world.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And so she's also grieving and probably traumatized.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yet she was so traumatized that she actually let my father,
who had passed his sister and her husband adopt me.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
And I say, I came to California. Now, why you
would give away your last child that you had with
the man that you loved in that seventh kid. Why
wouldn't you cling to that baby special? But that know
what she did.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
And I came to California and I was raised alone.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Did you ever get answers to those questions?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
She wasn't a talker.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Oh I get it is she still here.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
No no resolve for you, No, not for me. There
couldn't be one for me.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
I know that the Lord said, you know who were
supposed to forgive and and not carry malice in your
heart and all that.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
But I can't get past it.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
How old were.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
You two months old? I've been gone since I was
two months old.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Oh so you didn't even really know her, no to
this day. Wow, So when did you? When did you
become aware of that? So you grew up?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I was made to know that early.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
So this is your aunt right raised?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, my aunt and.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Husband who's not biologically linked to me. You feel me, stepdaddy.
So they told me though, ever since I was young,
they made me know that I had brothers and sisters,
and we would go out there to Arkansas and I
would see them and spend time with them in the
summer sertime. But they were in poverty and I was

(39:50):
being raised in California. So when I came to Arkansas
with my suitcase full of matching short sets and sandals
and baretts, you know, it was a little much looking back,
good Lord, So there had to be resembled. I believe
that still is.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, are your brothers and sisters still around? And relationship
do you have relationship with?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
My sister got stabbed to death Jesus, you know?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
And so then when do you take all of that
and make it? When does it become something that I
don't know when does comedy step in?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
When does that happen? Like, how does that? How does
that say?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Because yeah, there's no reason that I'm not on the
pipe still right now, I have every reason.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
And that's not.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Even scratching the surface of the ship that has been
done to me said about me, you know, all my
life until the money came because of money power respect.
Now you know how to ask somebody for the money
no more. You can actually help out and do things. See,
nothing means anything to anybody until you have your own

(40:57):
financial legs. You know, when you don't, when you're not
struggling no more and you can actually help out or
you know, and stuff like that. That's the only time
you get respect to the family other than that, you
piece of shit, trash, dream chaser shit.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Do you remember a time when you felt that that
switch happened? Like all of a sudden, People were like.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, when the money came, when the money came. But
I don't hold.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
That against them, because how could you come from where
we came from and even imagine the life that I
had for seeing for myself. This ship that I dreamt
is coming true and it's fucking with everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I was this.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
You know, hopefully I'm gonna be one at the top
of my game. I'm not fucking around with this shit.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
I have found a way to do my therapy on stage,
right in front of everybody, and I don't have to
pay for it. Actually I get paid for that. But
I work my shit. I don't go and rehearse my comedy.
I just do it. I just think it's something. I
just say it, and it's usually what everybody else is
thinking of and wants to say.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
That makes sense to me too.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I remember when I think I was an interviewing Birdman
or something, and everybody was there was a thing going
on where everybody was talking about him, and things were
way I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Give, but you know, he had a very traumatic like childhood.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
And so when I think about like the ship that
everybody was talking about at the time, and the gossip
and he's Disney this and this, and then when I
started really talking about him about his life and what
he survived, it's very hard.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
It gives you a thickness in your skin to survive, and.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
To not just survive, but to overcome financially. The ship
and to be able to not just do that but
live in opulence, you know, like he made und the money. Yeah,
you know, and coming from where he comes from, that's
that's that's the goal, make make the money.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I'm just saying, like he went through so much trauma
that I was like, no, wonder, you don't give a
shit when I'm asking you questions about whatever the topic
of the day is or whatever the thing is. It's
because you've been through so much trauma that the opinions
of people on the internet or things like that don't.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Really matter, which is probably why you have tough skin.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Why you don't seem to give a shit about I
don't cancel culture or anybody give a shit.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Nobody wants to be harassed and call names on the internet.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm not fell into that. No. You know.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
There's a delete all button though, and if you hit
that for about a week and I have all that
shit will die down and go away and tell you know,
because I went through it, went a little situation there
on the when I hosted a reality show. I do
not wish to speak of it, but I you know,
caught a lot of help and just stating the obvious,
you know, but then I became a hippocribe because I

(43:52):
got a only fan. So now I'm like, yeah, they're like, yeah,
really what you said, We're just a bunch of horse
and shit.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Oh yeah. I was like, yeah, sorry, my point exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
You don't get but the cancel culture, Like, I feel
like I would have to like set a dog on
fire for me to be canceled because I'm beloved. People
really dig me and are front of the most fight,
not everybody, because I just don't know how to be
fake or any of that type of shit.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
You know, there's so much fake in the world. You know,
there's not a fake bone in my body.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
I just think that people appreciate this a real old
broad that they've been watching for.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Years, and you know, and and and.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
That they're they're pulling for me at the end of
the day, and that keeps me going. Plus I really
like to entertain people, not like a clown, but like
a therapist. My therapy be other people's therapy too.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
For sure. You know, no, I totally see that. How's Vegas? Yeah,
I can't wait. I want to come see I want
to come see you.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
You should.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I feel like people can watch movies, TV shows and
all that. But if you don't see me in person,
I feel like you haven't really seen me. To have
a residency in Vegas is a beautiful thing. To have
one attached to Jimmy Kimmel is a great situation. And
to be the only sister at this time to have

(45:11):
a residency in Las Vegas is an honor. You know,
I know our history of black people in Las Vegas.
You know, I did a special about it, as a
matter of fact, But I don't care because I'm there
and we're changing the face of Vegas. You know, Vegas
used to be a place where old people come and
they retired, they got they showed their old fans at that.

(45:34):
Now no more, Babe, we got Bruno, we got usher
A damn.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Me, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
No, it's a vibe, this great show, little.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Vibe too short. Got a food party. Blow the whistard.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Talk to me about your I mean you have only
fans you have you did the fenty uh the Savage
fenty stuff for a while, like you have. You're very free,
it seems, with your body and sexuality and all. What
does that come from?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
It's total Flukes all lies. It's life, you know, No.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Because you seem very comfortable and confident.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I get himed up.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
I get himed up in these situations and then I
just can't do nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
So if Rihanna says, yes, I would like for you
to be a Savage X Findy Lingerie ambassador, but you're
gonna turn down that opportunity. So now they send your
box lingerie got flowers on the booty?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
The fuck you're gonna do? You gotta show.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
I'm like, oh my god, it's not like every time
I put it on, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna
kill him in this shit I put it, I was like, fuck, wait,
give me a pillow, give me some flowers and something
like that.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Let me stand downd the chair.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
You know so I I really you don't give that
at all.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You give like I'm not going to give it. But
that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
I saw you on IG live and you was changing
your shirt on IG Live. I'm just saying, Teddy was
all out. You didn't you didn't care, you were very comfortable.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Iday.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
I stopped it because I got only fans that I
used to take baths on my ig yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
So what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
What?

Speaker 3 (47:01):
That's free as fuck?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
I just like to fuck with him. It's follow us.
I don't know what is it's gonna do. I just
like to fuck with her.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Was that my neighboos? Sorry?

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Then I got to hear my daughter friends calling her say, Yo,
your mom's is in the tub.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yo. Then I gotta get her mom? Are you on
hid live? Are your naked?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Hang her up?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
It take a lot.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I'm gonna give her a little shine right now, you should.
It take a lot to be Lunell's daughter. You know,
I'm not the most orthodox. You know, Donna reed type bitch,
you know what I mean. But she knows this. She
knows She's gonna always be okay as long as I'm around,
and after that she will never have to set up
a gofundb ever for nothing. She had two parents that

(47:48):
love her and a mother that would ride for her
up against any motherfucker somebody who supports her in her
career and who tells her she's the most beautiful thing
that I've ever.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Seen in my life on the day. Now, that's what
she knows.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So so what if the titti'es out every now and
then yeah, come on, my mom, what mom puts her
titty back in?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Are you proud of that?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
That you're a good mother.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I'm pretty proud of now.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Yeah, I'm proud to be her mother because my daughter's
not a hack either. You know, she's beautiful and she's talented,
and she's not like a dick rider like a lot
of celebrity kids.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Oh am, I gonna do it my life. My daughter's
a professional dancer. She's been around the country, been to
Amsterdam and all kinds of places, dancing, dancer on the
Grammys and E two wards, sold training a wards, and
she was in coming to America with me, and she's
on All Americans. So she got a whole lass career
to start it in the church as a praise dancer

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in church. My daughter went to church.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
How many people even got friends that can say that
about their friends' kids right now that my kids went
to church.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
We're gonna do our irl questions. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Both of them are gonna have brawls and shit all
kind of.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
I care at the beginning, but then it's like, you know,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
What do you well?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I have something to do with that.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, Lunell fucked it up. She's trying to move it around.
Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Table?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh, I'm moving back a little.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Stop, It's fine, No, I was talking about I hope
that the reason that she was like, yeah, I don't
care anymore, and fuck it.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I would hope that I have something to do.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
With that that I don't care.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yeah, maybe I'm always inspired by that people who talk
about Rihanna like I'm not. I don't over always overthink
other people's opinions, but when people seemingly seem to not
give a fuck about things, like Rihanna seems like she
doesn't give a fuck. Sometimes I'm sure we all do,
but you seem like you don't give.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
A fuck Rihanna. I can't even get it out of
my mond. What what? What does Rihanna have to give
a fuck about anybody staying back?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Don't you admire that?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Like that is a I.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Admire everything about Rihanna, especially that old baby daddy.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Hey, ain't sad racket? Good shot? I like them together.
I'm so glad.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I hope you never ever ever fox up. Fuck God,
if you want to be with me, I'll be where
we're on it. I'd be like, Danel, it's me and
aunt TIV. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
She just wants to make the call. You met her though, right,
because she asked you to do the How did that
even happen?

Speaker 4 (50:12):
She her tour bus driver used to be our tour
bus driver when I was on tour with Cat and
he called me late one night and uh, I'm facetied.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'm laying in the bed with all my gadgets.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Right backscratcher doing my thing, live in your.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Life, alea, scrawling shit and he says, hell, and now
what's up?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I'm like, oh, hey, hey, Damien, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (50:38):
He said, Hey, we were just cracking up over here
watching you on the bus. And I can see up
but that he was on the tour bus with a TV. Bohem,
and I can see myself on the TV. I said
who who? He said, me and my client. I said, well,
who's your client? And boom, Rihanna popped on the score

(50:59):
go almost broken singing there trying to make the sut
what you call that?

Speaker 3 (51:03):
The screen show?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
So oh, she's a fan, which blew my wig. And
she's a fan of comedy.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
You know, that's that doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Yes, she's a fan of comedy. She got a great, smart,
great laugh. I told her that my daughter was a
fan of her lingerie. I lie, I was, but I
put it on my door and so, but you know,
I'm fantasizing because I said, also, I wish that you
made it in larger sizes, and.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
She said I do. I said you do? She said yes.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I said I wanted to be a lingerie model. She said,
let's make it happen. I said, okay, kei ki ki key.
We got off the phone. I'm thinking, oh, that's my
one and only interaction.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
We out.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
It was so far nice of her to patronize me
in such way. Walking two days later, she hits me
in the d M and asked me for my email.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Boom. I sent it back to her.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Honey, contracts started coming and you know, money, and she
told us how I was gonna go and I'm like,
see this what I'm talking about now to r a
check that my ass literally is about to have to
cash because now then said okay for we gota and
she said okay back, I'm like shit, okay. So they

(52:16):
start sitting in the lingerie and stuff and I'm like, oh, Lord, Lord,
I gotta put this on and did so you know
that's that's how. That's how that happened. I did it
for like two years and got to do the fashion
show that was on Amazon during the It's amazing Perish
hill Town Will Smith and no weird like you.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
But you're comfortable with your body.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
You don't really, I mean I am. If I'm about to,
you know, fuck or something, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
This is it lights on?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
The lights on, bitch, I don't care, but like you know,
there's some bathing suits. I'm not gonna bear, you know
what I mean. Or I'm not gonna wear anything tight.
You know, I'm not just one of the bitches from
Instagram this fat and don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I'd rather create the illusion and you guess what's up
under here then be like, oh she got not two
o's but three.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I don't, by the way, but I'm just saying, yeah,
you know what I mean, I don't need I'm not
comfortable like that.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I don't know why that's so surprising to me, with
the with the only.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Fans, with all I thought you would like to freeze
sometime is different.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Oh so you have that doesn't have anything you don't and.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I didn't do that either.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
You don't have any coup.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
But oh no, I'm a victim of all this shit.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
We have so many pictures left from the lingerie shoot, right,
I said, you know what we're gonna do all these
beautiful ass pictures. I said, let's start the only fans
and just put them all on the only fans. It
be burlesqui and be sexy. And then very quickly I
found out that that's not what the fuck they was
trying to see. And then I didn't. I was too nervous.

(53:55):
I didn't do nothing. But then I fucked this boy,
and then you know, we to daddy pictures.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
He understood, she's.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Here, by the way, she knows, she knows, yo, Danail, Danell, Yo,
your mom yo, your mom be Hellen.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I took some picture with this boy. People was asking
for some ship. I said, oh, but.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
You you know better than that.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
No, what you mean? This for my first time. I
don't take pictures with people.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
It ain't no picture nowhere, Danell, it ain't no picture nowhere.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
A mommy went a dick in her mouth. None of that, Okay.
In my hands, you know, so I had a couple.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I told her, though I tell my motherfucking daughter everything, Okay,
nobody tell her nothing in the street. Danell will tell you.
I told her was after lunch. I'm just like, Oh, Dannell.
By the way, there's a picture of me with a
dick in my hand on only fans.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Okay, damn, she told And she said, whose dick is it?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
It's a fair balance question, fair question.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I said, you don't know him, okay, and she don't.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Where is he now?

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Well, he's out of my life. But he's signed that
little waiver that said that I can put in pepee
on which card? So he ain't got an income. Oh
he could be hot as fish grease when you see
this motherfucker interview, I don't care. He could have still
been my boyfriend acted up sood.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Okay in real life? Yes, what do you pray for most?
In real life?

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Long healthy life for myself and my daughter. That's my
main prayer. I really want to live a long time.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Do you death? Are you scared of death?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yes? And I'm scared for her. Told me.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
She has told me how scared she is. Something I
know what it is. I want to prolong her having
to go through that for a long time.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Because you felt that too.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, that's the tough It's the worst part of this thing.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Hey, you want to blow your brains out, and.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
It's all the way like it's guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Like you really wish you could just shake somebody and
bring them back, Yeah, and you can't.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
That's probably why you liked the Lauren episode so much,
seeing her manage to survive that type of mourning.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
No, it's the empathy. You know, you have a partner
that was right. They were just like this, and I
was like, that hurts me. You know, the kids, the
pain she had to go through to get the tattoos
that she's got. That's that pain that you have to
play somewhere. You can't do nothing to the person, You
can't get to them. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (56:17):
You just left.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
The area is entrenched with memories of those two over
here over there, and I was obsessed with them like
people get obsessed with jay Z and Beyonce. I was
obsessed with Nipsy and Long because you can like touch
them because we were right here. I lived my house
with three blocks from the maritime child. I saw the

(56:39):
murals go up. I was there when the flowers is
on the ground. You know, my daughter and I went
through it together. I had been through assassinations all my life, Kennedy, Malcolm,
Medart Martin. I lived through all that, but this was
my daughter's first iconic assassination.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
She had to go through.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
And I had that, and I watched that, and uh,
and then I watched what the what he meant to
the culture, and as a grown old woman, you know,
it just it's almost good that I have finally gotten
out of the Krenshaw district on an everyday basis, because
it's like, you can't let it go.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I just didn't let it go.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Every day I'm driving past the marathon shop, the fat
Burger murals all up and down the street. He shot
a video over here, he shot this video right here,
he shot this by the video right here, every fucking day.
And it's almost good for my mental health that I'm
a little bit out of there now, you know, because

(57:42):
it just hurts so bad. And for the love that
Nip and Loin had, that la gangster love, you know,
the beautiful girl, the.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Thug ass dude and.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Everybody, and then they win and Grammys they win, they won,
and then to see that the fuck from her by
this lunatic and then uh, you know it broadcast on television.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I felt for her life. She came out of my chest.
And so that's all I that's that's.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
When you, as an interviewer gripped me. And I've been
knowing you in my mind all my life. You've been
in the culture, in the videos everything you know, it's
fitting out that and on radio and everything.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
All my life. I've known Andrew my teenagers.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
I ain't nobody had a bad word to say about
you ever, and you really put thought into your questions
and stuff. And that's why I was like, oh gosh,
one day, I'll hope you interview me and then we
now here we are, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
But it's crazy that it affected you that way, affected
so many people, especially here, but the whole culture.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
It's still I could tell. I could tell.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
And the thing is I felt it too, because I
had just had a bunch of loss in my life,
just lost both my grandparents in the same year and
my aunt died like literally four boom boom boom, I
mean boom boom boom, boom boom.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Just mortality, mortality.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
We're all Gonna It was literally the series. The name
of the first season of my podcast was We're All
Gonna I know, because why Because I was faced with
that in my own life. And then when I saw
Lauren going through that, I just I know that other
people must be feeling that, and then how do.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
You survive that?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
But she tells you though, yeah she did.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Like that what I needed from my you know, I
wanted to see how she's dealing, how she's breathing, you.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Know, because she can't get away from them.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Then they started the whole clothing line and the whole
dynasty for the kids.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
They are all good, you know, they are. They all good.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
They are gonna be watched over and you know, like
Lauren's the Queen of la say something about her and
probably get your.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Tired slashed or something like that or worse exactly. I
just went there.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I love that you felt that episode. I did too.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Yeah, you know, you just do you you it seems
like you can see the wills turning in your head
to really ask questions that you think about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
You really think about it. You don't just read this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I'm really just trying to get to know people. Then
what their story is, because I feel like I feel
like all of our stories can serve people.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
I remember earlier I say everybody's everybody's got a story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, everybody's got a story. So you know, but you
said nobody gives a ship out. I think I think
people do. I think people do when it's when it's
packaged in a way that's served, that's that's used as
a surface. Like when I created this podcast, I wanted
it to be offering so anyway, so that's how it
was born. And then I just feel like everybody's story.
That's why I was on you so much about I

(01:00:47):
know you're sensitive and careful about what you share. I
can see that, so I don't want to push you
too much, but I do think even just a little
bit that you've shared, I think that it is inspiring
to see you come out on the other side the
way you have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
It's inspiring to me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
I feel like life had its foot on my neck
for so long. You know, I made bad decisions and
living in Oakland.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
During a horrible crack era lost a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
I got lost for a while, you know, didn't having
a kid, not knowing what to do, and you know,
trying to do something that only boys were doing really successfully,
you know, and then try to be myself and talk
the way I talk, and feel the way I feel,
and do it and it just is a miracle that

(01:01:36):
God has allowed me to be successful in this way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Why do you think you survived? Like you talked about
the crack errant and all that shit you went through.
Why do you think you survived all that?

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Because God had a plan for me. It's the only answer,
because I could not have survived.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
You take no credit for it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
No, it's all I'm following the footsteps that was laid
out for If you don't buck what's laid out for you,
and you follow your mind and your heart, it will
lead you to where you're trying to go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
And that's God.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
But how did he lay it out?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
How did you see it? Because sometimes people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Didn't say, oh my child go forth and talk about
dick and shit like that, and yeah, I'm sure didn't.
But what I did do was I made taking care
of my family the goal. By any means necessary. I
have to win this comedy contest because I have to
get this money, because I have to pay this rent,

(01:02:32):
because I have to feed my baby, I have to
I can't go into a half stepping.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I have to slay every.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Time I put a mic in front of my mouth,
and the only way I can do that is be
myself and talk about what I'm thinking about, because I'm
thinking about what eighty percent of everybody else is thinking about.
But everybody else don't have the job to report it.
I'm not a reporter, you know what I'm saying. You
think I didn't talk about that Submary.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I believe it was Mooney Guarne now and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
I have to pick up the gauntlet. Somebody's gotta keep
it a buck. You know, I'm not here to write jokes.
I'm just here to talk about what's real and isn't
this funny?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Listen to this? It's you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
And that's all. That's all I know how to do.
I don't know how to write a joke. God bless
the writers, but I don't know how to write one.
I know how to write stories and interject stuff and
make it because I like that anyway. In my comedy,
if it's a story, you know what I'm saying, something
I can visualize and take everybody else and make them
see what I see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
It's all the gift for some real reasons, I feel
like you. I always talk about this here, even with
the pod and this project and everything. It's like if
you follow, like you say, the steps is there, yeah,
but you don't it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Sometimes it takes you a while to see it all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
It took me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Yeah, it took it while right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Of course I wish on what is happening for me now?
It happened for me twenty years ago. I was fuck wild.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I was in the streets, you know, I was quick
to pop off and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
So you have to learn all that and what you
got to get to toxic people from around you. You
got to stop doing whatever it is that you know
you ain't supposed to be doing and then just focus
on what your what, what what your gift is and
try to perfect that and go out and attack this
shit like it's a job, because it is, you know,
granting them to say nothing come to a sleeper but

(01:04:30):
a dream. You can't sleep till three and four in
the afternoon to think you're gonna make it in any
fucking thing. You got to get the fuck up and
get at it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I reach out like I know none be the fairy,
but to try, I reached out your DM he did.
Here we see it because I'm not always first on
everybody mind. And I used to have an issue with that, like, oh,
you just calling me to come play this part because
you couldn't get teaching camel or something like that, right,
And uh again, at the end of the day, who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Why? Who cares? Go do the job?

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Nobody cares?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Nobody cares. That's what I said. I started podcasting, is
gonna call it nobody, but that's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Actually a fucking great name for the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Can I come be a guest on your podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
What's you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
What are you gonna ask me?

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
I want to ask you, how in the world did
you get so you you were there in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
My family's from the Bronx, Me and my mother. She
took me to Brooklyn when I was eight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
How did you get so entrenched in this hip hop
culture that you you know what, what wanted you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Did you feel like you wanted to go into broadcasting?
Did you rappers that were your friends that you wanted
to you know? What made you leave to hip hop?
While you're not out here? sALS dance and some goddamn.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
By the way, is I do have a dream to
be able to solve.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Is on my bucket list to subsidence.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
In public because I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
No, man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I grew up in New York and so hip hop
was I was a kid, but I was a latch kid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
My mother was trying to scape ship that she was
dealing with from her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
So she's working out two jobs, three jobs, none just me,
only child, one little small apartment in Brooklyn, Me and
my mom. She's young, She's trying to find her way
start a career. I'm latchkey kid at home by myself,
with too much shit in height, yes, pretty much, with
too much time on my hands, too much freedom.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
So I'm outside.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
I'm outside, and outside is you know kids breakdancing and
hip hop music.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
And I grew yeah, I was a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Little kid, and you know, you look outside and that's
what was happening outside. I grew up in a neighborhood
that was it was mixed, but you know, it was
black and brown, and so we was hip hop music.
That's what we knew. And it was my it was
my ship, you know what I mean. So then I
found my I was an intern at the radio station
and then found my way from there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
But I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
My mother was in radio because when she was out
trying to find her career, she was an assistant and
a secretary at She started as a secretary of PolyGram Records.
Then she got a secretary job at wy and Y,
which is like a news radio station, so she got
in there, and then eventually she worked a way up
and then she got me an internship. And I started
with an internship and then took it from there enrolled,

(01:07:16):
So I kind of rolled off her back of which
she had kind of started. And then I was sixteen
when I first started interning at the radio station, and
then I didn't go to college and didn't all that
should happened there for me while I was there. So
it's the same, you know, you find something, you latch
onto it. And I didn't know interviewing wasn't even a thing. Yeah, yeah,
I just the same thing. It just kind of fell

(01:07:37):
into it. And then I was always a curious kid,
you know what I'm saying. I was always curious about talk. Yeah,
I wasn't necessarily a talker. I don't even think i'm
a talker really now, But.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
You had to be able to articulate yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I think I learned how. I think I learned how
to do that. I think I was a kid, so
I by myself. I spent a lot of time by myself,
so it was in my own head a lot. So
I don't think so I think I learned how to
over the years. Say, when you learn how to be
in the business, and you know you get up in
the morning and make your calls.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
I did all that, Yeah, because I wasn't a talker either.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Actually, right, I believe that in the beginning, Yeah, you
have to find it. You have to find it because
the opportunity came.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
And then ye, Plus, when I would see things somebody
made me mad, I hurt my feelings and I hold
it in. I would get physically sick, like my stomach
would get upset.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
And then when I started like cussing people.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Out, you were like, ooh, I like that. That's better.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
It's so much better this. I'm just gonna keep doing
this and everybody can kiss my hands.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I don't care. And then you have to develop that
don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
And then Luella was born.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah, I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
I look at this ship myself and I'll be like,
I don't know where this came from because I was
a theater. I was a theater check, I was doing
plays and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I was you know me. But then I don't know
this shit. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I can't wait to see what's next for you. I
know you have ideas and I don't know goals, and yeah, we'll.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
See whatever God got in front of me. You know,
at this point, I'm just gonna let it go. I'm
just gonna let go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
I'm really gonna let go and let God whatever direction
ritation because where I'm at now, I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
If I never get no further then where I'm at
right now, fine, Fine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
What are you most proud of about yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
That I made it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
I'm proud that I'm the rent of the eight shortest
around this that I'm proud that I can do what
I want to do pretty much in this life.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
What do you hope people learn from you from your life?

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
I hope people learn that I'm not just a comedian,
that I really am a person, and that I you know,
sacrifice everything from my audience's you know, my personal life,
my time with my daughter. You know, it's not just
about getting the bag. It is about getting the bag
to survive. But I've been real sick myself and still

(01:10:02):
went on the stage. I don't I don't take this
shit lightly. And so I just hope that people realize that,
you know, I'm a I'm a real I'm a real girl,
and you know, and I like boys, Yeah, we got that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
We got that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
I would like some who's giving you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
The best advice to this best.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Advice I ever got from I got the best advice
I ever got from a person in this business about
this business was from Queen of comedy Laura Hayes. Laura
Hayes told me a long time ago, she said, shut
the fuck up and listen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It never even occurred to me to listen, Nobo.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
I was like, what, I thought, I know everything, But
then I started doing that, and I don't feel the
need to If somebody's lying on my face, I don't
feel the need to correct them and check them and
embarrass them and all that. I just got okay, And
then I just walk away knowing that they're lying, motherfucker,
and I'm not gonna fuck with you no more.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
I don't feel the need to interject myself in every conversation.
Even if I know more than the people that have
in the conversation, I just go, okay, So I do
more of that than I used to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
And what do you think your purpose is here while
we're here, you know, on earth. Yeah, while we're here,
while we're alive, while we're in it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Well, I guess my purpose is to be a good
mom and aunt and sister, and to help people through
hard times through laughter, the gift that God has given me,
and to leave a legacy to all the underdog people

(01:11:38):
in the world that just because their foot is on
your neck now, don't mean that it's gonna be that
way always. And you know the Bible say the last
shall be first, and the first shall be last. And
every dog, every dog has his day. But you gotta work,
You gotta work, You gotta work. You know you can
get stuff quick. But where you're gonna be, you know,

(01:12:00):
anybody gonna know your name of where you're gonna be
five years from now. But see, when you're young, you
don't think about five years from now. You don't think
about five minutes from now. And I get that, But
if you keep living, you're gonna you wake up one
day and need to know what the fuck's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
So that'll be my last question.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Then were you in five years from now?

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Five years from now, I'm gonna be the biggest female
comic in the country. Hopefully I will have more ability
to work with the charities and stuff that I like,
like Martin mother Sabrina Philter's trade for Martin Foundation, and
Mothers who lost anybody who lost kids to gun violence.

(01:12:42):
I want to be a proponent for that. I want
to have a couple more properties. And I yeah, so
I'll be a grandmother.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
You're gonna be an amazing grandma.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Granny Tank, can we please do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
This again when you're grandmother?

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Oh god, I'll bring the little motherfuckers with me. Yeah,
you wanted my grandkid daddy, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
I enjoyed to tear it up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
You fucking said no, not my grandchildren's situations down to
be still, And I mean that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
You're gonna You're gonna be You're gonna love it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
Yeah, I heard the grandkids thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
You're not grandmother, no.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Not yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
But my mother is an amazing is an amazing grandmother.
So I look at her and I'm like, wow, it
gives me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I'm excited for that because I see.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
What that is, that we be loving the grandkids more
than a kid taking generation, like, get out the way,
where's my grandbaby? You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
I don't know what that is, but I know that
this has been one of the highlights of my career
and she to be interviewed by you. I know that
I didn't come in here to make it a comedy
interview type thing, but I feel like you haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Had one like that. Thank you for you're right, and
thank you and it's just who I am.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
No, I only want you to be who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
You know I didn't come in here to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Matter of fact, you I had a little trip day
and asking the question, but I just yes, you can see,
it's just fun who I am. I hope that that
came across in the interview and that everybody enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
And then I hope that, like you know, we can
be friends.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
We could go, we can totally, we could totally hang
out with New York.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I would love to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
And I don't know if you know, because I felt
you and I feel you trying to. You can only
be you and and even through the comedy and the
jokes and the entertaining in the wal I still can
see you. It doesn't make me see you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Last see people who have eyes, they can see me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
But you don't have to be all serious and non
funny for me to see you like I see. We
can still see you, sure, so I appreciate you being
you at all times.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Thank you and Mike

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