April 7, 2025 • 35 mins
Everybody's BFF, Anthony Marentino (aka Mario Cantone), is here, and what an episode this is! Immediately, we have to address Charlotte's addiction to the rabbit. Plus, everyone can relate to being relegated to the singles/kids' table. The conversation takes a more serious turn when Kristin and Mario address settling when it comes to relationships.
And, the coffee shop that just isn't the coffee shop!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
you a Charlotte? We are here at Are You a
Charlotte with the fantastic guests Mario kntone and we are
going to rewatch episode one oh nine. It's called The
Turtle and the Hair and it is directed by Michael Fields.
(00:23):
This is the second episode directed by mister Fields, who
unfortunately I have.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No memory of. I'm very sorry, mister Fields. And it
is written by Nicole Averrel and Sue Klensky.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh, I did stand up comedy. We know both of
them who I think I've met.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, we worked together many times with while Michael was
at the club at.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The Okay, so there's a connection.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is the season when our writers weren't really with
us necessarily. They were they had written in La. Darren
had had a writer's room in La and scripts would
come and we wouldn't necessarily meet them, unlike every other year.
Right and Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
At this point we.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Rewatched last episode one eight with Jenny. That was her
first Jenny Biggs, that was her first episode. And she
reminded me that she had been a consultant, she'd been
brought on, she'd been uh, that was her episode to right,
and then she was a consultant, so it was her,
Darren and Michael in a room, which is kind of
amazing to think about it. And I hadn't really remembered
that she had been around the first season, which is
(01:20):
kind of a.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Jenny after Sex and the City put me on two
seasons of men in trees.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No way, come on.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
She was great.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
She's the best. Okay, So this is a very interesting episode.
Saw all the episodes in the first season, right, so
as you know, all of us are in it, and
then we have we start at this crazy wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Didn't it look like it was the eighties? Yeah? Well yeah,
I mean because it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wasn't the eighties, but I mean the colors in the
room and the and also we had no money. Like
at one point, Samantha goes to a restaurants just supposedly
the talk of the town, and I'm like, what what.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Is that restaurant?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, at the bar, and yeah, it's like the saddest
talk of the town restaurant I've ever seen. But we
had no money in the beginning compared to you know,
later and now especially but you know, luckily now we
have people asking us to film at the super cool
restaurant because we're still recovering, you know, the restaurant business.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But back in the day not so much.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
No one knew who we were or what we were doing.
So we begin at this wedding where a character named
Brooke not played by myself.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
A little bit confusing because I have previously.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Played a character named Brook for Darren, but Noah is
not me. She's getting married, but Carrie thinks that she's
getting married to someone who she doesn't really love, and
this begins the thematic conversation of is everyone in New
York settling in their relationships? Which is a really good
conversation to have and a very very important, I.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Think conversation to say.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
In my mind, obviously I'm single, but in my mind,
you should never settle, like I do not think that
you should settle. You know, people are not yes, and
I love There's this one moment. I'm just gonna talk
to you about it now. I sometimes go out of order.
There's this one moment where Carrie goes out with the
bride after the wedding to return some wedding gifts, and
(03:15):
she's still trying to figure out like, is she happy?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Is she not happy?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Is she pleased with her decision or not?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
If she doesn't really love the guy, which doesn't seem
like she's passionately in love. And she says something like
what does it feel like to be married? And the
broke character says, it feels like.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
A weight has been lifted? And I felt that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I felt that, And isn't that crazy that I would
still feel that today in twenty twenty five, And I
know that things have changed about this, but like, we
are so socialized that you have to be paired up in.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Whatever way that is.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It might be married, it might not be married, whatever
it is, it is a social situation where people want
an explanation if you are not paired.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Oh sure, and it is stressful.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm sure it is.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm sure it is right, especially for I think, well
back in my day, especially for straight people.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
He were gay, they were like whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Right, But then gay marriage became acceptable. And I don't know,
do you feel that pressure now you've been married for
a long time, do you feel like that pressure?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I never felt that pressure because I just I'm a coupler.
It definitely was always a coupler. I wanted to be
with somebody, right, Yeah, But when I met Jerry, it
was you know, nineteen ninety I met him and I
was with someone else at the time, and then we
were friends for a year and half and then I
went when I broke up with my ex site we
(04:36):
started to get together like six months later. It just
accelerated into that. But it's yeah, I mean I didn't settle.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I knew.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Go on, Oh he's awesome. He didn't settle at all.
Oh no, okay, so wait, this is okay. So first
of all, let me talk about how we look at
the wedding, because what's going on with all of our hairs.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
My hair, it's so you but in that corner with
all the weekends insane, it is ads right, it is as.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I've never seen that. What were we thinking? And you
looked all kind of like like there was a slight like.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Punk thing, and we talk about like that were and
then they when they cut towards at the kids table o,
My god, I almost fell out.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Because this still happens to me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, it's rough to go to a wedding at
this point because I'm like, if I have to sit
with those children. Oh, I don't know what I'm going
to do. I don't know what I'm to do. I
don't really don't want to do that, but you know,
sometimes people do get married, and I do feel like
I should go, So we'll see. But when coming up,
I'm sure she's not. I mean, if I'm sitting with
my own kids, it's.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, yeah, sure. Don't you hate when they mix you
up to the separate you. Why are you doing that?
That's not right. No, that's not right. People.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I want to get to a situation, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Right, they can be.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But anyway, we're at this woman Brooks wedding and we're
we're at.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The reject table. She's so harsh.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We've got kids, and then we've got this man, Bernie
Turtle Tob who's kind of hysterical. She's known for good
investments but bad breath. And I'm really happy. I mean,
first of all, Samantha has this whole storyline with him
that I found kind of perplexing. I don't remember this
at all, right, but I was like, since when does
Samantha try to like fix anyone.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Up and right and settle right.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Luckily, she comes to she kind of definitely different than
we see later, Like like I also thought like, oh,
Samantha also is getting kind of worked out, right, because
I don't ever remember that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I don't ever remember that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But the nice thing about when she takes this guy out,
she dresses him differently and whatnot, and she tells him
that he has bad breath, and he says very sweetly
that he's taking these Chinese herbs, which I totally relate
to because I have many times in life been taking
Chinese IRBs and I probably had Chinese irb breath. I
don't know, but he very sweetly says that, and she's like, oh,
we can work on that. And it's kind of sweet
(06:59):
of her, you know what I mean, Like she's very
kind of mother to him.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And she actually wants to better him, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And then she gives up.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's talking about those mushrooms for too long.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Okay, he's analyzing the mushrooms in his dish and there's
like six possible mushrooms it is, and she's like, maybe
no one cares, she says really sweetly, also really sweetly,
and he's like, maybe it's chantrelle or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And then she's like I'm out, which is really true.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That really man, But that was a very departure type
of a Samantha s I felt, right, Also similar to
when I mean not similar, but kind of similar. Earlier
in the episode, she comes to my I take her
home because she's drunk and she lives with my door man. Yeah, yeah,
also I mean very Samantha. But also it's funny to
see her drunken, like not together, you know what I mean,
(07:45):
and Charlotte's trying to take care of her, which is.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Kind of cute.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then this is the Rabbit storyline, when we actually
went to the pleasure Chest and filmed.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh, that's right, we're at the pleasure chest.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You know what's funny about this episode. I was rewatching
it and I had just seen it. Incidentally, I had
just seen this episode on HBO, maybe like a month ago,
You're kidding, And I was like, I was watching, Wait,
I just saw the wow, wow because I remember that
you being directed to.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The Yeah, I'm addicted to the Rabbit. Departure for Charlotte,
a very departure for a.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Very different thing for Charlotte. Charlotte is and that's what
I saw. I saw the place I thought when I saw.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It, I just remember, this was my no.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I know, my hair is.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
A mess, sturdy mean, and I'm wearing green silk.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
What the heck?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And you see like a lot of my apartment, which
is not how my apartment was later, and I've got
a big wall of books, which I think is super awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And where do those books go?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Because now in Charlotte's apartment they're all white, They're wrapped
in white paper.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yes, yes, it's just a design.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So Charlotte, I.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Know, so Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Anyway, back then they were all their real bindings, which
is cool.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Charlotte was interesting, but also.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Kind of mysterious. You're like, where's the real who was
the real show? Where is she going? Is going to
turn into?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean, and we of course know, but back then
I don't think she knew right because at first she's like, no, no,
vibrator is not going to take you out for your birthday.
A vibrator is not going to say I love you.
She's like, gives them a little speech at the very
sad coffee shop. You're at the real coffee shop in
Long Island City, that kind of scary coffee shop, sad
(09:25):
and scary.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Do you remember no, yeah, yeah, I remember? You remember
her set?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The coffee shop is not a set, it's a real
in Long Island City, which like in the middle of
the warehouses they used to be there.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
She was saying that, you know, it's not going to
say I love you, and then all of a sudden,
she's she's canceling on.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That I and she's a bad liar, which is so
worse so me.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm a terrible liar, terrible liar.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
They come and bang on my door and then they
grabbed the vibrator, which I thought was brave.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was like they were and I do vaguely remember
some conversation, and I also I vividly remember being at
the pleasure Chest because I'd never been to the pleasure Chest.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I was like, I can't believe we're filming here.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And we had to hold the thing up in our
face right like like you know on film, you can't
never hold anything down here because they have to cut
to an INSTI you have to hold it up.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's like right in our face.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I was like, what all of us it's got the years.
I know, it's a crazy situation. It's a crazy situation. Yes,
the rabbit was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Turtle in the hair.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I know, I know, I know, so I like that departure.
But can I tell you what else pops up in
my mind?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
This is what I do.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I free flow my memory and then I'm going to
look at my papers. Sara Jessica and I are doing
that yoga scene and we're in the top floor of
Silver Cup, which was empty at the time. So like
if you were to look at those windows, you would
see Manhattan in the distance, which we also filmed in
last season Evan, just like that, and I believe we actually, no,
(10:57):
it was somewhere where we were supposed to be in Brooklyn.
I can't remember what thing it was, but we were
supposed to be in Brooklyn so we could use the skylight.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I remember also what I did, the scene I did
with with with Sarah Jessica.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
When she was going to buy that apartment. Yeah, it was.
They built it. They built it up with the skylight.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, the one with those with too much se totally, Yes,
they built it up there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
That was that's the same floor.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Jessica and I had been a yoga teacher before before
I got Maler's place and We're up there and it's
very cold. They have the air conditioning on too much,
and I'm like, you guys, it's too cold.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You have the sets are often they're having to do
a lot of work. I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But we had to do yoga, and I remember saying like,
we need to we need to warm up, we need
to warm up, we need to warm up. But Sarah
had been a dancer, right, so she's super limber. I'm
pretty limber, you know, and we're just doing our stretches.
Sarah Jessica pulled a muscle in the back of her
leg that I still feel bad about because we had
had you had a wretch, But you're acting, right, You're
(12:01):
acting and you're not thinking. And I know she's very limber,
and I remember just like doing the thing like we
were supposed to do, and I just feel like I
pulled her too far or something and it hurt her
to sit on it on a hard chair for years.
No way, like we'd be in a theater scene, you
know how we had all those scenes like the fashion
show that she was sitting with us. But we'd be
sitting somewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And she'd be like, oh, and I just feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Terrible bad. She I don't think she blames me, but
I still feel bad. I still feel bad. But I
love that scene. It's a really fun scene. And we
look like little children obviously, which is really funny. Okay,
back at the wedding. We're at the wedding. I mean, man,
oh man, I don't even know what to make of it.
Like when you look at people. You know, let's just
(12:44):
talk about women right now for a second. Let's leave
gay men out of it. For gay women, let's talk
about with straight women. Yeah, do you feel like there's
pressure to settle and get married and have the thing,
the big wedding?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And you know, still I still do. I do. Thick
times have changed, but I do. Also there's I don't
know if there's social pressure.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I guess there is some social pressure pressure, but there's
a lot of inner pressure that women put on themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Because we've been socialized.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They think that this wouldn't be supposed to be, that
it's going to make you happy.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
When if you had a friend that you felt was
settling to get that marriage, you know, would you say something.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
No, I would you know, after they were divorced, I'd
be like, I never liked them, but you know beforehand,
I can No, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Too delicate, it's difficult, and I really have.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
To make sure even if they don't get married, you
have to make sure they are broken up and they
are never getting back together again.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Say anything, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want to create problem. No,
you don't want them to be mad at you, right, Yes,
I know it's rough though. I don't ever say anything
about anything because I don't I don't really know what's
going on in that relation.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Whip don't right, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Look and the rule to one's relationship is none of
anybody's business, and there are different rules to different people's relationships.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That is a very very good point. We cut back
to Carrie and she's typing in her adorable way. I
just love it so much. Then she calls big And
(14:27):
and she asks him why did he get married? And
I have to say this, I've been on a very
big journey with big rewatching the first season because I
just can't believe how he is to her, Like he's just.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
So yes, not giving you know at all.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, until this episode, I felt like he broke down
a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
He's a little warmer.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
To her, do you know what I mean, finally, finally, finally,
because I think also she's going through this whole thing
of like, oh, I'm dating someone who never wants to
get married again, should I do? And she actually has
to contemplate all these things and then he has to
kind of like reach out to her rather than her
always reaching out to him. None of these things ever
occurred to me when we were filming this. Well, you're
seeing it totally differently, totally I think because of the times,
(15:14):
but also think when you're in it, you're just trying
to do it. You know, you're just trying to do it.
And Charlotte was so big, so I was.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
During that scene when they called this a split screen, yes,
very Brian to Palma's.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Terror love split screen.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We loved it and they talk that what did you
think of that? You think it was weird? I what?
I immediately went, it's a split screen.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He loved it.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I liked it. I did. I did like I like
look watching it. Like I said to you, I like
the tone of it too all I like to talk
to so much. Sure does. It's twenty two minutes like bam,
bam bam, and you're like, oh, I want more. It's
like it's a short twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's very short, I know, and they get so much
in there. I know, the writing is so good, so
so good, so so good. Okay, So Carry calls Big
and she basically says, you know, why did he get married?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And then he says he was.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
A fool in love, which are just like, what, really,
at what age were you a fool in love? Because
this is not who we know him to be. And
then he says he's never going to get married again.
And then would you see her gulp exactly, which is
also I think kind of surprising in a way because
she's quite the you know, the girl about town.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well that's when you know that you really has deep feeling.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Deep feelings, I know, sweet Carrie. Then so last week
we found out that he had been married. Now we're
casually finding out. But I do feel like this is
how relationships are in the beginning, right, Like people just
say stuff like kind of like of course, but in reality,
you're you're over on the other side, like what it's
a clue. That's a bad clue, you know, like you're nitpicking,
(16:50):
a'll not not even nippicking, but you're you're just like
accruing details, right, trying to make the picture together. Okay,
so then the rest of us are not surprised to
hear that Big doesn't want to get married. But I
think this is a major bummer, which is so funny
because it's something that I would say, now, oh silliness.
(17:11):
You wonder if they were paying attention to how I talk.
I don't know. But then of course deman that Cared
not surprised at all. And then she says, I wasn't
even thinking about getting married until I was told I couldn't,
and which I think is so true, right, Like you're
just on your own tracks, and you're assuming that other
people are possibly on that track too, and then you
(17:31):
hear that they're not in this shock right because you're
just kind of going about things assuming that their possibilities.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Right. That's not always the case, is right.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But I do feel like that's a lesson that CARRY
learns basically every week with Big.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, you know and go. It fluctuates too, with her
relationship with him. I just went back and forth through
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I know, and like, God, how then you didn't you cently?
I only rooted for them and now I'm like.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Why did I do that? That's do you know what
I mean? But that's how it is too.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I think like sometimes when you're too close, you're not objective,
you know what I'm saying. And I also think that
they have the chemistry they have and therefore you for
them right, exactly right, which is also eventually it just
took a very very long time.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, very very long time. Took a movie.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It took a movie, and then another kind of I mean,
I guess, yeah, but then we didn't. Yeah, anyway, back
to the show.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Back to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So then I say really adorably that I want my
relationship to be based on honesty and communication, which I would.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Still say, and I'm not wrong, no, like, this is
what relationship should be based on. Wants that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Characters my character definitely, and I think that's great.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm like the mature voice, which is amazing. You like
the voice of reason. I'm the voice of reason.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And see I never realized that in the beginning. I
thought I was always so naive. Well, I mean, there's
a way to look at it that I am.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You are right, but it's but it's different.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
It's you're it's it's you're a little bit more conservative,
then that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm conservative, right, but there's conservatives also saying conservative in
terms of like wants to get married, have kids. Is
very open about that. That's the goal, you know from
the get go, pretty much right, And obviously we know
we know that she comes up against some some difficulties
because of that, which is fine because I like that.
(19:36):
So then as my producers write, this is the sort
of a major storyline, a big not wanting to get married,
which honestly I hadn't remembered this either.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know, I like no, I mean, well I don't either.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Because we were in it, you know what I'm saying,
And I think I remembered that, then what happens later
would have made more sense, right.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But I also feel and I talked.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I had Oliver Hudson two episodes again, so sweet.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And he's done a lot of work on himself, and
he's also been married a long time and it was
super interesting to talk to him about being a straight
guy and what he remembers before he did and also
married right, successfully married before and how you know, scared
he was of expressing his feelings and communicating openly, and
then he learned how important it was and how you
(20:24):
do feel so much more. You're much more available to
love and all the things that can happen when you're
fully present and not you know, with the wall, right,
But if you look at Big, the fact that he
has this incredible wall up for so long, and somehow
she handles it, she does handle it. I don't even
know how.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You talk about rooting for someone and hoping they're going
to change what she actually did later on, but I.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Know she waited along, right, But in reality, like now,
we would say, like, don't try to change that person.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He's not going to change. Yes, we don't change people.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Right, Isn't that what I would not always say now?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It's interesting, it's interesting, but I also feel like I
feel and I could be wrong, and maybe we'll ask
Sir Jeska about this where she comes up, I feel like, yes,
she wanted what she wanted, but at a certain point,
she was also willing to not get everything she wanted
to stay with him, do you.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Know what I mean? Yeah, Because it's not like this.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
In this episode, there's a crazy storyline with Stanford where
she goes to meet his mother, which I had not
really remembered, right, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Also when they go to the ballet, which you know, sir,
Jessica loves your ballet so much, and now she's chairperson
of the Ballet Committee and does this incredible fundraiser every
year and raises so much money in New York City
Ballet and we on and just like that film at
the Ballet this year, which was incredible and we spent
so much money doing it. Yep, but we wanted to
have that iconicy New York situation. But to see she
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and Willie walking around Lincoln Center in the night and
she wirrel, it's incredible. It's incredible, And way back then,
in nineteen ninety eight we did that, Like, it's amazing
the kind of footprint of what would come in a
much more kind of fully fully developed way later.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
And in the settling, In the settling situation, even though
they are close friends and they love each other, there's
the idea of them getting married.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Right, He's like, why not because he would get his inherited.
He doesn't realize, right, And he would be fine with
her being with Big because he's gay, right, And it
kind of makes sense and she's like, maybe this does
make sense.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And then his mom, his mom mother, you guys me
wi WILLI Stanford's mom and she says, you know, you
know he's a fruit.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
She says, yeah, yeah, and then she realizes that he's
not going to get the inheritance, so it's really not
going to work. The friend's not going to work. But
it is super interesting. I did not really remember that.
I like that whole moment.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I liked it too.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
And Stanford's like so sweet and like vulnerable. And you
remember when he goes he puts an ad in the
paper because we didn't have dating apps, and he basically
says Ed Harris type and Ed Harris type.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And which is what you said to me? When is that? First?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
He said he looks like Ed Harrison? And then I
say to you, Ed Harris, how about Ed? I have
no Harris.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And then this guy walks up to him on the
street and it's like, this is.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No, it's not gonna happen. His little face welcome to
the gay world. Oh my gosh, the little side face.
So it just broke my little heart.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Then oh, then there's there's the insanity of the Rabbit,
which really goes on for quite some your addiction time, right, well,
just and then the you know, like Charlotte's version of lying.
It's really funny, like, oh, you know, I'm supposed.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
To go out with you to go to the Kelly,
but then they came up then make it, I know,
which is really really cute, door, really.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Really cute, so cute.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I love them breaking down my door and taking care
of me. It's so cute.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's so so cute. And then I say that I
think I broke my vagina.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
That's right, wow, yes, yea. Knowing what your character became,
it's like wow. And the fact that you got you're
the one that got objected to this thing, that whole
thing is just.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But that was that, yes, exactly, I agree. And they
were trying to figure out, like what can we do
that doesn't you don't see coming? You know what I'm
saying with her, And I was just trying to pull
it off so that they weren't like get rid of her.
I'm serious, it was on my mind. I was scared.
I was very scared for most of it. So I'm
just like, how could I make this? And also I've
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been in an acting class for so long, right, So
I'm just trying to make everything as real as I
possibly can, do you know what I mean? But it's
really cute when they come over. I love it very
very much. I love it and I really want to
watch it again. That's how cute it was, because it
seems like we're in high school. Yeah, it's like a
weirdly good episode.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And I remember when I saw it about a month ago.
I was like, this is a really good episode, and.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Did you thought that?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I just I just thought the whole first season I
remembered it, which is crazy. See, I thought that the
Rabbit episode would have been later, like I remember things
from it, but I don't remember them.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And I was surprised it was the episode when I
started rewriting again. Yeah, the other day.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Because I was like, wait, I just saw this and
this was from the first season totally.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's crazy. That's why Cynthia always told me that the
first season was good and I was like, no, no,
she's right, right, Okay, so we're back with Beg. Carrie
tells Beg that she got a proposal. She's smoking and
which is hysterical. Isn't it funny to watch her smoking?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, right?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And like almost blows the up. And do you remember
when when he does a smoke ring. I remember that
he was like very proud of himself that he's smok ring. Okay, wait,
this is the intervention. Now we're back to Samantha with
the turtle, which again so adorable and sweet and he's sweet.
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He is kind of feel bad for him.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Oh wait, it's Stanford's grandmother.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yes, yes, that makes more sense. That makes more sense,
becuse I was gonna say, we really don't see anyone's parents.
His grandmother who has the money. That makes sense. Then
we're back. Now this scene really really killed me because
there's so many future callbacks to this scene where Big
(26:42):
is making sauce okay and giving her the spook.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yes, right, he has an issue.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Oh yeah, well he was like, you brown the onion,
and you brown the garlic and then you throw in
the onion.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'm like, no, opposite you.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You brought you brown the onion and then rowing the
garlic quickly, and then you throw your sauce in and
then you cook it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I just made it, and the other day that's all
I do is make sauce. Okay. Yeah, so that was wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Do you remember how many times throughout the years they've
done this, and like in the movie do it in
their beautiful apartment. I know, what's you know, it's adorable,
I know, but it's also like that's the hymn that
I like, you know, like when I'm like this this,
I can see there had.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
To be a certain thing about him, even at the
very beginning, that you rooted for and was hoping for
that change and for that connection and ultimately that marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So you know, but see, there are fans who would
say that they were not hoping sure, and there are
fans who would say that they were on aiden not
big you know what I mean? It was always right,
but for sure. I mean the writers definitely it was
like the central storyline for her right too big or
not too big?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You know, right, do you know what I mean? But
they were, yeah, the sauce thing. I but I love
that scene.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I thought it was a great scene. And she basically says,
you know this other marriage proposal, like God is not
gonna it's got not going to work out. And then
she says that she does want to get married someday.
And when you think about that, this is season one
and they're having this conversation and how many years of
show and then movies would go on for this to
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get worked out. But I also think it's very real.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I mean, and also when they're in bed together and
she's like trying to be all cool, we'll getting right
married and yeah, I got a proposal today, and and
then he said Stanfford and he was and he knew.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
He was, like isn't he isn't he gay? Uh huh?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And so the cockiness kind of flips back around, like.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That kind of right that they because like, do you
remember early on when he's kind of evaded her wherever
they're supposed to get together, they didn't get together, And
she sees him on the street and she leans over
and tells him the word of the crossroad puzzle, Like
it's nice how they like trade power and right, and
that's that's the saving grace of it, all right, if
(29:07):
it was just him being aloof the.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Whole time, boo.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
But they trade back and forth. But this scene in particular,
I felt like, at least we're seeing the potential of him,
the potential of their relationship, the potential of him being
nice to her, Like he holds her and kisses her
at the end is kind of reassuring to her, even
though he doesn't say, oh, yes, I do want to
get right. He doesn't say that, but his actions are
(29:31):
more like caretaking and make her feel you know, good.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Then the okay, but settling, and then I got the
paper in front of me. Yes, the theme is settling,
which I think is obviously a fantastic theme and still
incredibly relevant. But we don't get a solution. Of course,
we don't get a solution. How could we get a
solution to that? And also this is still a question
in society, like what's more important to you? Security? Right,
(29:59):
the security of relationship or not something? Sometimes that's the choice.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, anything, people do both. It's plenty of people that
do both.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
And you they either settle, and they settle because it's
money and power involved. And you know, yeah, I don't
let me tell you something. I always said this I was,
you know, it's going to be on my gravestone. What
I can buy the whole I can't be one.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Wow, I do not think that you should put that
on your.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
But I mean what I mean, but metaphorically what I
mean is I can't. I don't care how much money
you have, So I'm not going to be with you
for money.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yeah, I I mean, I'll buy my my suite at
the day we're seeing Rome, I'll buy this, but I'll
buy a car to get me something, you know, But
I can't.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't. I was like, I'll be fine. I'm the
one that's gonna have the money. That's how you do it.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
And yeah, I would never marry somebody I know, right,
I don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I know.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I don't understand it either. And the thing that I
think is really dangerous about it is if you're a
young woman like Charlotte, right, And I mean the thing
that I do love about Charlotte though, is first season
she talks about the gallery every single episode, which I love,
like work is important to her, you know, which I
really love and I had forgotten, Like most of her arcs,
it's mentioned, you know, and then more so it comes
(31:24):
back than goodness. So it's not like she's like I
don't want to work, you know. The later obviously there's
a time when she does it work and the girls
are like, you're not even working? Do you remember this
later on? Anyway, I think that the mistake that you know, mentally,
Relying on someone else financially when you're young is a mistake.
(31:45):
You know, it's a mistake that people very commonly make
because you have to you have to get those skills
yourself through so that you'll be okay, right, because but
sometimes you can't rely on those other people and then
you're left dry and it's way.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Stressful or you're miserable exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Which seems like a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
And then you have kids.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I feel like the problem is they're relying on right,
Like you can get married, you can settle, you can
do all the different things, just don't rely on them,
like keep your own bank account.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right, it's important. See, and Jerry
and I feel the same way you do.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh yeah, we're very you know, look we have our money,
but we're we're we're separate with things too, and that's
a good way.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
And yeah, look it's there's.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Times he made more money than me and times I
made more money than him, and and that's just you
just rely on each other, went back and forth, which
is a very healthy thing.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I think that's a very healthy thing.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And also because that means the power is even in
a relationships, right, yeah, right, Mario, You're amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm just looking at my papers. I think we've done it.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
And there's even like Jerry and I working together. Yes,
when I did my One Man, he wrote all my music.
He writes my music for me.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
But that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
We work together everyone that you know, we've done shows together.
We we advise each other. It's a it is a
real balance of power.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Beautiful, you know, beautiful, and we love each other.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
We scare each other a little bit, you know, because
we're both strict sometimes with things, and you know, we're
both control freaks. I think, well, not not in not
in the not in a horrible way, not in the
way where it rips apart our relationship.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, I just want to know he's safe and okay,
of course that's unhealthy for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Because we're getting older, and you know, I think about
life and yeah, I just do.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We all do.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, we all do.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You know, And that's what I love about it, just
like that is everybody's older and we are.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Everyone is changing in some way.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, you know, the audience loves some of it and
hate some of it, and it's just but it's like
too bad, this is life. You accept these changes and you.
You know, Anthony has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I when I first said to Michael, you know, when
I had the hot fellas, I was like, so, I'm
gonna be messing around with these.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
She said no. He said no, no, no, no, because.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You don't where you eat this is, this is she said.
He said, you've evolved. You're the one that You're the
one that's not that doesn't do that anymore, which is
why when you find out in the second season that
I only hired straight men, I forgot.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I could, I could not do that.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
And then I find out that Giuseppe is gay, and
I'm like, you're fired.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Oh my god, I forgot, Yes, you're fired.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And then I like that we get he quits and
we get together. So I love that about me.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
See that he's evolved that way. Well, if we haven't
evolved at all, how boring. That's not real. You know,
that's not real. It's not real.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I know, and I know I know there's and you
have done.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Can I just don't don't say anything, just shut up
and just hear it.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
And I said this to you, But the amount of
people that think you are so many magnificent.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
In this iteration of the show, and how.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Walking, how hilarious you are.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
You are really divinely funny than finely funny. You're drunken stuff.
You're that whole monologue to Harry during the hangover, but
she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, I mean you you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm just looking to have Michael Patrick writing for me.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I am too.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I'm lucky to have you as my partner.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
You're my first and original partner, and we're still very
close friends, even though the kids take you away from
me sometimes, and I've said that Charlotte's up to her
ass and kids ship.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
I know.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Sorry, it's thank you for being with you.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I love you verys for finally asking me
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are
you a Charlotte? We are here at Are You a
Charlotte with the fantastic guests Mario kntone and we are
going to rewatch episode one oh nine. It's called The
Turtle and the Hair and it is directed by Michael Fields.
(00:23):
This is the second episode directed by mister Fields, who
unfortunately I have.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No memory of. I'm very sorry, mister Fields. And it
is written by Nicole Averrel and Sue Klensky.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh, I did stand up comedy. We know both of
them who I think I've met.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, we worked together many times with while Michael was
at the club at.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The Okay, so there's a connection.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is the season when our writers weren't really with
us necessarily. They were they had written in La. Darren
had had a writer's room in La and scripts would
come and we wouldn't necessarily meet them, unlike every other year.
Right and Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
At this point we.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Rewatched last episode one eight with Jenny. That was her
first Jenny Biggs, that was her first episode. And she
reminded me that she had been a consultant, she'd been
brought on, she'd been uh, that was her episode to right,
and then she was a consultant, so it was her,
Darren and Michael in a room, which is kind of
amazing to think about it. And I hadn't really remembered
that she had been around the first season, which is
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kind of a.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Jenny after Sex and the City put me on two
seasons of men in trees.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
No way, come on.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
She was great.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
She's the best. Okay, So this is a very interesting episode.
Saw all the episodes in the first season, right, so
as you know, all of us are in it, and
then we have we start at this crazy wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Didn't it look like it was the eighties? Yeah? Well yeah,
I mean because it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wasn't the eighties, but I mean the colors in the
room and the and also we had no money. Like
at one point, Samantha goes to a restaurants just supposedly
the talk of the town, and I'm like, what what.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Is that restaurant?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, at the bar, and yeah, it's like the saddest
talk of the town restaurant I've ever seen. But we
had no money in the beginning compared to you know,
later and now especially but you know, luckily now we
have people asking us to film at the super cool
restaurant because we're still recovering, you know, the restaurant business.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But back in the day not so much.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
No one knew who we were or what we were doing.
So we begin at this wedding where a character named
Brooke not played by myself.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
A little bit confusing because I have previously.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Played a character named Brook for Darren, but Noah is
not me. She's getting married, but Carrie thinks that she's
getting married to someone who she doesn't really love, and
this begins the thematic conversation of is everyone in New
York settling in their relationships? Which is a really good
conversation to have and a very very important, I.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Think conversation to say.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
In my mind, obviously I'm single, but in my mind,
you should never settle, like I do not think that
you should settle. You know, people are not yes, and
I love There's this one moment. I'm just gonna talk
to you about it now. I sometimes go out of order.
There's this one moment where Carrie goes out with the
bride after the wedding to return some wedding gifts, and
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she's still trying to figure out like, is she happy?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Is she not happy?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Is she pleased with her decision or not?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
If she doesn't really love the guy, which doesn't seem
like she's passionately in love. And she says something like
what does it feel like to be married? And the
broke character says, it feels like.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
A weight has been lifted? And I felt that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I felt that, And isn't that crazy that I would
still feel that today in twenty twenty five, And I
know that things have changed about this, but like, we
are so socialized that you have to be paired up in.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Whatever way that is.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It might be married, it might not be married, whatever
it is, it is a social situation where people want
an explanation if you are not paired.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Oh sure, and it is stressful.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm sure it is.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm sure it is right, especially for I think, well
back in my day, especially for straight people.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
He were gay, they were like whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Right, But then gay marriage became acceptable. And I don't know,
do you feel that pressure now you've been married for
a long time, do you feel like that pressure?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I never felt that pressure because I just I'm a coupler.
It definitely was always a coupler. I wanted to be
with somebody, right, Yeah, But when I met Jerry, it
was you know, nineteen ninety I met him and I
was with someone else at the time, and then we
were friends for a year and half and then I
went when I broke up with my ex site we
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started to get together like six months later. It just
accelerated into that. But it's yeah, I mean I didn't settle.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I knew.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Go on, Oh he's awesome. He didn't settle at all.
Oh no, okay, so wait, this is okay. So first
of all, let me talk about how we look at
the wedding, because what's going on with all of our hairs.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
My hair, it's so you but in that corner with
all the weekends insane, it is ads right, it is as.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I've never seen that. What were we thinking? And you
looked all kind of like like there was a slight like.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Punk thing, and we talk about like that were and
then they when they cut towards at the kids table o,
My god, I almost fell out.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Because this still happens to me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, it's rough to go to a wedding at
this point because I'm like, if I have to sit
with those children. Oh, I don't know what I'm going
to do. I don't know what I'm to do. I
don't really don't want to do that, but you know,
sometimes people do get married, and I do feel like
I should go, So we'll see. But when coming up,
I'm sure she's not. I mean, if I'm sitting with
my own kids, it's.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Okay, yeah, sure. Don't you hate when they mix you
up to the separate you. Why are you doing that?
That's not right. No, that's not right. People.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I want to get to a situation, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Right, they can be.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But anyway, we're at this woman Brooks wedding and we're
we're at.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The reject table. She's so harsh.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We've got kids, and then we've got this man, Bernie
Turtle Tob who's kind of hysterical. She's known for good
investments but bad breath. And I'm really happy. I mean,
first of all, Samantha has this whole storyline with him
that I found kind of perplexing. I don't remember this
at all, right, but I was like, since when does
Samantha try to like fix anyone.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Up and right and settle right.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Luckily, she comes to she kind of definitely different than
we see later, Like like I also thought like, oh,
Samantha also is getting kind of worked out, right, because
I don't ever remember that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I don't ever remember that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But the nice thing about when she takes this guy out,
she dresses him differently and whatnot, and she tells him
that he has bad breath, and he says very sweetly
that he's taking these Chinese herbs, which I totally relate
to because I have many times in life been taking
Chinese IRBs and I probably had Chinese irb breath. I
don't know, but he very sweetly says that, and she's like, oh,
we can work on that. And it's kind of sweet
(06:59):
of her, you know what I mean, Like she's very
kind of mother to him.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And she actually wants to better him, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And then she gives up.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's talking about those mushrooms for too long.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Okay, he's analyzing the mushrooms in his dish and there's
like six possible mushrooms it is, and she's like, maybe
no one cares, she says really sweetly, also really sweetly,
and he's like, maybe it's chantrelle or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And then she's like I'm out, which is really true.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That really man, But that was a very departure type
of a Samantha s I felt, right, Also similar to
when I mean not similar, but kind of similar. Earlier
in the episode, she comes to my I take her
home because she's drunk and she lives with my door man. Yeah, yeah,
also I mean very Samantha. But also it's funny to
see her drunken, like not together, you know what I mean,
(07:45):
and Charlotte's trying to take care of her, which is.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Kind of cute.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then this is the Rabbit storyline, when we actually
went to the pleasure Chest and filmed.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh, that's right, we're at the pleasure chest.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You know what's funny about this episode. I was rewatching
it and I had just seen it. Incidentally, I had
just seen this episode on HBO, maybe like a month ago,
You're kidding, And I was like, I was watching, Wait,
I just saw the wow, wow because I remember that
you being directed to.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The Yeah, I'm addicted to the Rabbit. Departure for Charlotte,
a very departure for a.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Very different thing for Charlotte. Charlotte is and that's what
I saw. I saw the place I thought when I saw.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It, I just remember, this was my no.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I know, my hair is.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
A mess, sturdy mean, and I'm wearing green silk.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
What the heck?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Man?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And you see like a lot of my apartment, which
is not how my apartment was later, and I've got
a big wall of books, which I think is super awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And where do those books go?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Because now in Charlotte's apartment they're all white, They're wrapped
in white paper.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yes, yes, it's just a design.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So Charlotte, I.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Know, so Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Anyway, back then they were all their real bindings, which
is cool.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Charlotte was interesting, but also.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Kind of mysterious. You're like, where's the real who was
the real show? Where is she going? Is going to
turn into?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean, and we of course know, but back then
I don't think she knew right because at first she's like, no, no,
vibrator is not going to take you out for your birthday.
A vibrator is not going to say I love you.
She's like, gives them a little speech at the very
sad coffee shop. You're at the real coffee shop in
Long Island City, that kind of scary coffee shop, sad
(09:25):
and scary.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Do you remember no, yeah, yeah, I remember? You remember
her set?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The coffee shop is not a set, it's a real
in Long Island City, which like in the middle of
the warehouses they used to be there.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
She was saying that, you know, it's not going to
say I love you, and then all of a sudden,
she's she's canceling on.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That I and she's a bad liar, which is so
worse so me.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm a terrible liar, terrible liar.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
They come and bang on my door and then they
grabbed the vibrator, which I thought was brave.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was like they were and I do vaguely remember
some conversation, and I also I vividly remember being at
the pleasure Chest because I'd never been to the pleasure Chest.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I was like, I can't believe we're filming here.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And we had to hold the thing up in our
face right like like you know on film, you can't
never hold anything down here because they have to cut
to an INSTI you have to hold it up.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's like right in our face.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I was like, what all of us it's got the years.
I know, it's a crazy situation. It's a crazy situation. Yes,
the rabbit was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Turtle in the hair.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I know, I know, I know, so I like that departure.
But can I tell you what else pops up in
my mind?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
This is what I do.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I free flow my memory and then I'm going to
look at my papers. Sara Jessica and I are doing
that yoga scene and we're in the top floor of
Silver Cup, which was empty at the time. So like
if you were to look at those windows, you would
see Manhattan in the distance, which we also filmed in
last season Evan, just like that, and I believe we actually, no,
(10:57):
it was somewhere where we were supposed to be in Brooklyn.
I can't remember what thing it was, but we were
supposed to be in Brooklyn so we could use the skylight.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I remember also what I did, the scene I did
with with with Sarah Jessica.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
When she was going to buy that apartment. Yeah, it was.
They built it. They built it up with the skylight.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, the one with those with too much se totally, Yes,
they built it up there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
That was that's the same floor.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Jessica and I had been a yoga teacher before before
I got Maler's place and We're up there and it's
very cold. They have the air conditioning on too much,
and I'm like, you guys, it's too cold.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You have the sets are often they're having to do
a lot of work. I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But we had to do yoga, and I remember saying like,
we need to we need to warm up, we need
to warm up, we need to warm up. But Sarah
had been a dancer, right, so she's super limber. I'm
pretty limber, you know, and we're just doing our stretches.
Sarah Jessica pulled a muscle in the back of her
leg that I still feel bad about because we had
had you had a wretch, But you're acting, right, You're
(12:01):
acting and you're not thinking. And I know she's very limber,
and I remember just like doing the thing like we
were supposed to do, and I just feel like I
pulled her too far or something and it hurt her
to sit on it on a hard chair for years.
No way, like we'd be in a theater scene, you
know how we had all those scenes like the fashion
show that she was sitting with us. But we'd be
sitting somewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And she'd be like, oh, and I just feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Terrible bad. She I don't think she blames me, but
I still feel bad. I still feel bad. But I
love that scene. It's a really fun scene. And we
look like little children obviously, which is really funny. Okay,
back at the wedding. We're at the wedding. I mean, man,
oh man, I don't even know what to make of it.
Like when you look at people. You know, let's just
(12:44):
talk about women right now for a second. Let's leave
gay men out of it. For gay women, let's talk
about with straight women. Yeah, do you feel like there's
pressure to settle and get married and have the thing,
the big wedding?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And you know, still I still do. I do. Thick
times have changed, but I do. Also there's I don't
know if there's social pressure.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I guess there is some social pressure pressure, but there's
a lot of inner pressure that women put on themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Because we've been socialized.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They think that this wouldn't be supposed to be, that
it's going to make you happy.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
When if you had a friend that you felt was
settling to get that marriage, you know, would you say something.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
No, I would you know, after they were divorced, I'd
be like, I never liked them, but you know beforehand,
I can No, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Too delicate, it's difficult, and I really have.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
To make sure even if they don't get married, you
have to make sure they are broken up and they
are never getting back together again.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Say anything, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want to create problem. No,
you don't want them to be mad at you, right, Yes,
I know it's rough though. I don't ever say anything
about anything because I don't I don't really know what's
going on in that relation.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Whip don't right, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Look and the rule to one's relationship is none of
anybody's business, and there are different rules to different people's relationships.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That is a very very good point. We cut back
to Carrie and she's typing in her adorable way. I
just love it so much. Then she calls big And
(14:27):
and she asks him why did he get married? And
I have to say this, I've been on a very
big journey with big rewatching the first season because I
just can't believe how he is to her, Like he's just.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
So yes, not giving you know at all.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, until this episode, I felt like he broke down
a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
He's a little warmer.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
To her, do you know what I mean, finally, finally, finally,
because I think also she's going through this whole thing
of like, oh, I'm dating someone who never wants to
get married again, should I do? And she actually has
to contemplate all these things and then he has to
kind of like reach out to her rather than her
always reaching out to him. None of these things ever
occurred to me when we were filming this. Well, you're
seeing it totally differently, totally I think because of the times,
(15:14):
but also think when you're in it, you're just trying
to do it. You know, you're just trying to do it.
And Charlotte was so big, so I was.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
During that scene when they called this a split screen, yes,
very Brian to Palma's.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Terror love split screen.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We loved it and they talk that what did you
think of that? You think it was weird? I what?
I immediately went, it's a split screen.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He loved it.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I liked it. I did. I did like I like
look watching it. Like I said to you, I like
the tone of it too all I like to talk
to so much. Sure does. It's twenty two minutes like bam,
bam bam, and you're like, oh, I want more. It's
like it's a short twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's very short, I know, and they get so much
in there. I know, the writing is so good, so
so good, so so good. Okay, So Carry calls Big
and she basically says, you know, why did he get married?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And then he says he was.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
A fool in love, which are just like, what, really,
at what age were you a fool in love? Because
this is not who we know him to be. And
then he says he's never going to get married again.
And then would you see her gulp exactly, which is
also I think kind of surprising in a way because
she's quite the you know, the girl about town.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well that's when you know that you really has deep feeling.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Deep feelings, I know, sweet Carrie. Then so last week
we found out that he had been married. Now we're
casually finding out. But I do feel like this is
how relationships are in the beginning, right, Like people just
say stuff like kind of like of course, but in reality,
you're you're over on the other side, like what it's
a clue. That's a bad clue, you know, like you're nitpicking,
(16:50):
a'll not not even nippicking, but you're you're just like
accruing details, right, trying to make the picture together. Okay,
so then the rest of us are not surprised to
hear that Big doesn't want to get married. But I
think this is a major bummer, which is so funny
because it's something that I would say, now, oh silliness.
(17:11):
You wonder if they were paying attention to how I talk.
I don't know. But then of course deman that Cared
not surprised at all. And then she says, I wasn't
even thinking about getting married until I was told I couldn't,
and which I think is so true, right, Like you're
just on your own tracks, and you're assuming that other
people are possibly on that track too, and then you
(17:31):
hear that they're not in this shock right because you're
just kind of going about things assuming that their possibilities.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Right. That's not always the case, is right.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But I do feel like that's a lesson that CARRY
learns basically every week with Big.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, you know and go. It fluctuates too, with her
relationship with him. I just went back and forth through
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I know, and like, God, how then you didn't you cently?
I only rooted for them and now I'm like.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Why did I do that? That's do you know what
I mean? But that's how it is too.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I think like sometimes when you're too close, you're not objective,
you know what I'm saying. And I also think that
they have the chemistry they have and therefore you for
them right, exactly right, which is also eventually it just
took a very very long time.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, very very long time. Took a movie.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It took a movie, and then another kind of I mean,
I guess, yeah, but then we didn't. Yeah, anyway, back
to the show.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Back to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So then I say really adorably that I want my
relationship to be based on honesty and communication, which I would.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Still say, and I'm not wrong, no, like, this is
what relationship should be based on. Wants that.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Characters my character definitely, and I think that's great.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm like the mature voice, which is amazing. You like
the voice of reason. I'm the voice of reason.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And see I never realized that in the beginning. I
thought I was always so naive. Well, I mean, there's
a way to look at it that I am.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You are right, but it's but it's different.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
It's you're it's it's you're a little bit more conservative,
then that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm conservative, right, but there's conservatives also saying conservative in
terms of like wants to get married, have kids. Is
very open about that. That's the goal, you know from
the get go, pretty much right, And obviously we know
we know that she comes up against some some difficulties
because of that, which is fine because I like that.
(19:36):
So then as my producers write, this is the sort
of a major storyline, a big not wanting to get married,
which honestly I hadn't remembered this either.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know, I like no, I mean, well I don't either.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Because we were in it, you know what I'm saying,
And I think I remembered that, then what happens later
would have made more sense, right.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But I also feel and I talked.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I had Oliver Hudson two episodes again, so sweet.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And he's done a lot of work on himself, and
he's also been married a long time and it was
super interesting to talk to him about being a straight
guy and what he remembers before he did and also
married right, successfully married before and how you know, scared
he was of expressing his feelings and communicating openly, and
then he learned how important it was and how you
(20:24):
do feel so much more. You're much more available to
love and all the things that can happen when you're
fully present and not you know, with the wall, right,
But if you look at Big, the fact that he
has this incredible wall up for so long, and somehow
she handles it, she does handle it. I don't even
know how.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You talk about rooting for someone and hoping they're going
to change what she actually did later on, but I.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Know she waited along, right, But in reality, like now,
we would say, like, don't try to change that person.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He's not going to change. Yes, we don't change people.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Right, Isn't that what I would not always say now?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
It's interesting, it's interesting, but I also feel like I
feel and I could be wrong, and maybe we'll ask
Sir Jeska about this where she comes up, I feel like, yes,
she wanted what she wanted, but at a certain point,
she was also willing to not get everything she wanted
to stay with him, do you.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Know what I mean? Yeah, Because it's not like this.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
In this episode, there's a crazy storyline with Stanford where
she goes to meet his mother, which I had not
really remembered, right, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Also when they go to the ballet, which you know, sir,
Jessica loves your ballet so much, and now she's chairperson
of the Ballet Committee and does this incredible fundraiser every
year and raises so much money in New York City
Ballet and we on and just like that film at
the Ballet this year, which was incredible and we spent
so much money doing it. Yep, but we wanted to
have that iconicy New York situation. But to see she
(21:56):
and Willie walking around Lincoln Center in the night and
she wirrel, it's incredible. It's incredible, And way back then,
in nineteen ninety eight we did that, Like, it's amazing
the kind of footprint of what would come in a
much more kind of fully fully developed way later.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
And in the settling, In the settling situation, even though
they are close friends and they love each other, there's
the idea of them getting married.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Right, He's like, why not because he would get his inherited.
He doesn't realize, right, And he would be fine with
her being with Big because he's gay, right, And it
kind of makes sense and she's like, maybe this does
make sense.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And then his mom, his mom mother, you guys me
wi WILLI Stanford's mom and she says, you know, you
know he's a fruit.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
She says, yeah, yeah, and then she realizes that he's
not going to get the inheritance, so it's really not
going to work. The friend's not going to work. But
it is super interesting. I did not really remember that.
I like that whole moment.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I liked it too.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
And Stanford's like so sweet and like vulnerable. And you
remember when he goes he puts an ad in the
paper because we didn't have dating apps, and he basically
says Ed Harris type and Ed Harris type.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And which is what you said to me? When is that? First?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
He said he looks like Ed Harrison? And then I
say to you, Ed Harris, how about Ed? I have
no Harris.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And then this guy walks up to him on the
street and it's like, this is.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No, it's not gonna happen. His little face welcome to
the gay world. Oh my gosh, the little side face.
So it just broke my little heart.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Then oh, then there's there's the insanity of the Rabbit,
which really goes on for quite some your addiction time, right, well,
just and then the you know, like Charlotte's version of lying.
It's really funny, like, oh, you know, I'm supposed.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
To go out with you to go to the Kelly,
but then they came up then make it, I know,
which is really really cute, door, really.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Really cute, so cute.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I love them breaking down my door and taking care
of me. It's so cute.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's so so cute. And then I say that I
think I broke my vagina.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
That's right, wow, yes, yea. Knowing what your character became,
it's like wow. And the fact that you got you're
the one that got objected to this thing, that whole
thing is just.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But that was that, yes, exactly, I agree. And they
were trying to figure out, like what can we do
that doesn't you don't see coming? You know what I'm
saying with her, And I was just trying to pull
it off so that they weren't like get rid of her.
I'm serious, it was on my mind. I was scared.
I was very scared for most of it. So I'm
just like, how could I make this? And also I've
(24:56):
been in an acting class for so long, right, So
I'm just trying to make everything as real as I
possibly can, do you know what I mean? But it's
really cute when they come over. I love it very
very much. I love it and I really want to
watch it again. That's how cute it was, because it
seems like we're in high school. Yeah, it's like a
weirdly good episode.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And I remember when I saw it about a month ago.
I was like, this is a really good episode, and.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Did you thought that?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I just I just thought the whole first season I
remembered it, which is crazy. See, I thought that the
Rabbit episode would have been later, like I remember things
from it, but I don't remember them.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And I was surprised it was the episode when I
started rewriting again. Yeah, the other day.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Because I was like, wait, I just saw this and
this was from the first season totally.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's crazy. That's why Cynthia always told me that the
first season was good and I was like, no, no,
she's right, right, Okay, so we're back with Beg. Carrie
tells Beg that she got a proposal. She's smoking and
which is hysterical. Isn't it funny to watch her smoking?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, right?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And like almost blows the up. And do you remember
when when he does a smoke ring. I remember that
he was like very proud of himself that he's smok ring. Okay, wait,
this is the intervention. Now we're back to Samantha with
the turtle, which again so adorable and sweet and he's sweet.
(26:13):
He is kind of feel bad for him.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Oh wait, it's Stanford's grandmother.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yes, yes, that makes more sense. That makes more sense,
becuse I was gonna say, we really don't see anyone's parents.
His grandmother who has the money. That makes sense. Then
we're back. Now this scene really really killed me because
there's so many future callbacks to this scene where Big
(26:42):
is making sauce okay and giving her the spook.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yes, right, he has an issue.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Oh yeah, well he was like, you brown the onion,
and you brown the garlic and then you throw in
the onion.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'm like, no, opposite you.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You brought you brown the onion and then rowing the
garlic quickly, and then you throw your sauce in and
then you cook it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I just made it, and the other day that's all
I do is make sauce. Okay. Yeah, so that was wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Do you remember how many times throughout the years they've
done this, and like in the movie do it in
their beautiful apartment. I know, what's you know, it's adorable,
I know, but it's also like that's the hymn that
I like, you know, like when I'm like this this,
I can see there had.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
To be a certain thing about him, even at the
very beginning, that you rooted for and was hoping for
that change and for that connection and ultimately that marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So you know, but see, there are fans who would
say that they were not hoping sure, and there are
fans who would say that they were on aiden not
big you know what I mean? It was always right,
but for sure. I mean the writers definitely it was
like the central storyline for her right too big or
not too big?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You know, right, do you know what I mean? But
they were, yeah, the sauce thing. I but I love
that scene.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I thought it was a great scene. And she basically says,
you know this other marriage proposal, like God is not
gonna it's got not going to work out. And then
she says that she does want to get married someday.
And when you think about that, this is season one
and they're having this conversation and how many years of
show and then movies would go on for this to
(28:24):
get worked out. But I also think it's very real.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I mean, and also when they're in bed together and
she's like trying to be all cool, we'll getting right
married and yeah, I got a proposal today, and and
then he said Stanfford and he was and he knew.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
He was, like isn't he isn't he gay? Uh huh?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And so the cockiness kind of flips back around, like.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That kind of right that they because like, do you
remember early on when he's kind of evaded her wherever
they're supposed to get together, they didn't get together, And
she sees him on the street and she leans over
and tells him the word of the crossroad puzzle, Like
it's nice how they like trade power and right, and
that's that's the saving grace of it, all right, if
(29:07):
it was just him being aloof the.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Whole time, boo.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
But they trade back and forth. But this scene in particular,
I felt like, at least we're seeing the potential of him,
the potential of their relationship, the potential of him being
nice to her, Like he holds her and kisses her
at the end is kind of reassuring to her, even
though he doesn't say, oh, yes, I do want to
get right. He doesn't say that, but his actions are
(29:31):
more like caretaking and make her feel you know, good.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Then the okay, but settling, and then I got the
paper in front of me. Yes, the theme is settling,
which I think is obviously a fantastic theme and still
incredibly relevant. But we don't get a solution. Of course,
we don't get a solution. How could we get a
solution to that? And also this is still a question
in society, like what's more important to you? Security? Right,
(29:59):
the security of relationship or not something? Sometimes that's the choice.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, anything, people do both. It's plenty of people that
do both.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
And you they either settle, and they settle because it's
money and power involved. And you know, yeah, I don't
let me tell you something. I always said this I was,
you know, it's going to be on my gravestone. What
I can buy the whole I can't be one.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Wow, I do not think that you should put that
on your.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
But I mean what I mean, but metaphorically what I
mean is I can't. I don't care how much money
you have, So I'm not going to be with you
for money.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yeah, I I mean, I'll buy my my suite at
the day we're seeing Rome, I'll buy this, but I'll
buy a car to get me something, you know, But
I can't.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't. I was like, I'll be fine. I'm the
one that's gonna have the money. That's how you do it.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
And yeah, I would never marry somebody I know, right,
I don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I know.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I don't understand it either. And the thing that I
think is really dangerous about it is if you're a
young woman like Charlotte, right, And I mean the thing
that I do love about Charlotte though, is first season
she talks about the gallery every single episode, which I love,
like work is important to her, you know, which I
really love and I had forgotten, Like most of her arcs,
it's mentioned, you know, and then more so it comes
(31:24):
back than goodness. So it's not like she's like I
don't want to work, you know. The later obviously there's
a time when she does it work and the girls
are like, you're not even working? Do you remember this
later on? Anyway, I think that the mistake that you know, mentally,
Relying on someone else financially when you're young is a mistake.
(31:45):
You know, it's a mistake that people very commonly make
because you have to you have to get those skills
yourself through so that you'll be okay, right, because but
sometimes you can't rely on those other people and then
you're left dry and it's way.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Stressful or you're miserable exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Which seems like a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
And then you have kids.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I feel like the problem is they're relying on right,
Like you can get married, you can settle, you can
do all the different things, just don't rely on them,
like keep your own bank account.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right, it's important. See, and Jerry
and I feel the same way you do.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh yeah, we're very you know, look we have our money,
but we're we're we're separate with things too, and that's
a good way.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
And yeah, look it's there's.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Times he made more money than me and times I
made more money than him, and and that's just you
just rely on each other, went back and forth, which
is a very healthy thing.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I think that's a very healthy thing.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And also because that means the power is even in
a relationships, right, yeah, right, Mario, You're amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm just looking at my papers. I think we've done it.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
And there's even like Jerry and I working together. Yes,
when I did my One Man, he wrote all my music.
He writes my music for me.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
But that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
We work together everyone that you know, we've done shows together.
We we advise each other. It's a it is a
real balance of power.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Beautiful, you know, beautiful, and we love each other.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
We scare each other a little bit, you know, because
we're both strict sometimes with things, and you know, we're
both control freaks. I think, well, not not in not
in the not in a horrible way, not in the
way where it rips apart our relationship.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, I just want to know he's safe and okay,
of course that's unhealthy for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Because we're getting older, and you know, I think about
life and yeah, I just do.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We all do.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, we all do.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You know, And that's what I love about it, just
like that is everybody's older and we are.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Everyone is changing in some way.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, you know, the audience loves some of it and
hate some of it, and it's just but it's like
too bad, this is life. You accept these changes and you.
You know, Anthony has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I when I first said to Michael, you know, when
I had the hot fellas, I was like, so, I'm
gonna be messing around with these.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
She said no. He said no, no, no, no, because.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You don't where you eat this is, this is she said.
He said, you've evolved. You're the one that You're the
one that's not that doesn't do that anymore, which is
why when you find out in the second season that
I only hired straight men, I forgot.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I could, I could not do that.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
And then I find out that Giuseppe is gay, and
I'm like, you're fired.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Oh my god, I forgot, Yes, you're fired.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And then I like that we get he quits and
we get together. So I love that about me.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
See that he's evolved that way. Well, if we haven't
evolved at all, how boring. That's not real. You know,
that's not real. It's not real.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I know, and I know I know there's and you
have done.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Can I just don't don't say anything, just shut up
and just hear it.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
And I said this to you, But the amount of
people that think you are so many magnificent.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
In this iteration of the show, and how.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Walking, how hilarious you are.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
You are really divinely funny than finely funny. You're drunken stuff.
You're that whole monologue to Harry during the hangover, but
she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, I mean you you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm just looking to have Michael Patrick writing for me.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I am too.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I'm lucky to have you as my partner.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
You're my first and original partner, and we're still very
close friends, even though the kids take you away from
me sometimes, and I've said that Charlotte's up to her
ass and kids ship.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
I know.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Sorry, it's thank you for being with you.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I love you verys for finally asking me
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Kristin Davis
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