April 3, 2024 • 39 mins
Kathy and Susan sit down with their very first guests: Zach and Kaity! The Bachelor Nation lovebirds chat with our Golden gals about everything from their worst first date experiences to the reality of living with a partner. Then, they share some of the sweetest moments in their relationship, including the moment Zach knew Kaity was the one.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thank you
so much for joining us. We're so excited to be
back today. And we have a special guest today, two
of them, Katie and Zach.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Zach and Katie, welcome, Thank you for having us. Yeah,
he so excited so much.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We are so excited to see you both here. Fellow Austinites. Okay,
so I just I want to ask you to guys,
so I know you both because you're a fellow Austinites
and I live in Austin as well. Katie, I want
to ask.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You which is an amazing place. By the way, I
fell in love with it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
She was here last week to marry my son and
his fiance. We had a great time. But I want
to know, Katie, do you remember how we met?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
We do airplace to u AFR.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Drunk on an airport drunk.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean not Yeah. Do you remember they let us
sit in first class while we sat there drinking? Yeah,
it was really fun.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Our economy seats we got ended up getting first class
and free wine all because of you.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Kathy though, well you know that's my girl. So we've
got a little thought of the day. Topic of the
day and since you know you guys are gen z
or whatever those things are and we're boomers. Question for
you guys, how soon is too soon to leave the
(01:40):
table when you know the date is a bust?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I should?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now you guys are engaged, but think.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Back, see I feel well data bust. For me, I've
been on some dates that were a bust and I
just ride it out. I just ride it out and
then I just don't text them anymore.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I don't want to be rude.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
It's all like I'm going to get up and lead
the date. Yeah, I think that's disrespectful. I think obviously
two people come together and obviously aren't compatible for a reason,
but doesn't.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Mean you need to leave.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I totally agree, have an amazing answer and my thoughts
about it. For me, it's I agree, if you're in
an uncomfortable situation that get out, like like actual uncomfortable.
But if you're just not vibing, you have to wait
it out. That's I mean, it's like, if anything, you
can walk away or at least think about it as
(02:41):
I'm gonna have a cool story after this of how
night should the date that was?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Which is this where I chime in and say I'm
the girl here that would say I'm so sorry, I
have a bus to catch, I'm out of.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Here, or get that emergency phone call.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm not surprised you you know, you know I want
you get it and then you're out.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I have heard stories about people actually go into the
bathroom and never coming back.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I could do that.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
To say they climb out windows, right, it's just amazing. No,
I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. But I
might say I really not feeling well, or uh, my
daughter's in labor, or my house is on fire, I
got this.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Pain in my side. I've really got to go.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Oh those are those are some good lines though, to
get out.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Tell me what's the worst date you ever had?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Wait, you go?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I had one guy. I have a lot of comic
book dates. Actually a lot of date stories that my
friends love. But I would say, like, the weirdest date
isn't the one that you're thinking of.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But I didn't know what he's thinking because they're engaged.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Guitar.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
There was a guy who played the guitar for me
in a park in my hometown in Kingston, and we
had brunch. I remember having brunch with him and we
sat down. He like automatically looked at the menu and
was like, wow, it's really expensive here. I was like, well,
I can't order the yogurt like I always pay half
(04:31):
fast forward.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
He ended up.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
He's like, hey, like I brought my guitar. Do you
want me to sing to you in the park? And
automatically in my head, I'm like absolutely not shoot me.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, so start aiding me.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
In my hometown, people I know are walking by, they're like,
so I'm he breaks in an hour just to like
get out of here.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I love thinking of but I.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
See my word date, so I's like, most interesting was
I went on a date.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I hope to God his song listening, but I went
on a date.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
With this guy no names please, no names.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Went on a date with.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
This guy and he's like a mostal speaker, like really
into his profession, like working out in all that mindset.
And I was a little late for the date, like
probably five ten minutes because I was working at the hospital,
so I had to like run home quickly get dressed,
and then come back to this restaurant. To get back
to this restaurant, He's like, wow, you're a little late,
(05:30):
and I was like, yeah, well I was working, like
you're You're lucky that I'm even here right now kind.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Of but starting off really good.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He's like, do you not really know how to manage
your time correctly? I was like, pardon me.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
I was like, already, you're like axed and I probably
should have walked out, but I sat through it. And
then I sit down and he's like, he's like, I'm
not a big drinker. He tells me this story about
I'm not going to get into that, but there is
a huge.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
This is when you say I have my I have appendicitis,
I have a headache, I have a bus to catch.
This is when let's try You're right, So okay, So
I want to know, Zach, when did you know on
the show that Katie wish your girl none of this?
(06:22):
I want the real truth here. When did you know?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Oh, we actually talked about this, like two days ago.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Two days ago, we've talked about a bit because it always,
you know, watching the show kind of resparks, like the
conversations again, like of like, oh wow, we experienced something
very similar to what we're watching now. For for me,
she doesn't love my answer, but it's completely.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yeah, that's what I love.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Honesty.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yes. So throughout the whole process, I was very in
my own head. I analyzed everything to a tea. I
overwhelmed myself with like trying to figure out who's you know,
my right parson knocking off the boxes, this and that,
or like I'm trying to have every individual relationship and
(07:08):
keep them siloed and not bleed into each other and
try to keep that all in my head. So the
problem was is I was being so analytical mentally that
I wasn't letting myself just take a step back and
feel like, wait, where's my heart taking me? Who do
I feel like that is my person? Who am I
truly in love with? And the actual moment when it
(07:31):
happened was actually the day before engagement where.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I was nervous watch that long. I know, I know, guys,
you need to get out of your own head.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Budge, Hey, Zach, you're wait, Zach, let me just test something.
You're lucky that Katie didn't tell you she had a
bus to catch.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
That's right, true, true, But it was one of those
things that like when I took a step back and
when I was able to acknowledge, like, oh my god,
it's Katie. It was a no, duh, like, look back
at how you work with her, how you felt around her,
Like that was naturally, Like I want to just spend
my time with her.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
But now it makes you feel right, I was like, she.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Makes me feel like no one else can ever make
me feel. Yet I was still being so analytical of like, well,
let me take up every day. I can make sure
that i'm you know, because engagement is a big deal
for me. It was not just going to propose for
the sake of proposing. At the end of this like
either I'm going to feel one hundred percent confident or
not do a decision or make for myself. So for me,
(08:32):
I did think of it too much. Maybe no, I think.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I think you're in a position where you do need
to think about it too much. Or I don't think
there is a level of too much. I think because
engagement is so serious and I take it serious. I
think everybody on the show does as well.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Hey, Susan, do we take an engagement seriously?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't know what that's like exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
We don't have one. Okay, Simon felt.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That yet, but I will.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I will definitely I want somebody once in my lifetime
to get down on one day.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hasn't happened. Twice hasn't happened.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
I've been guys, it will happen.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Wait, none of your husbands, of your husband? What did
they do?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Event school kind of girl? You could sing outside the
window if you want. I don't care about wait down
on one day now?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Wait the answer is no, and moving right along. I
hear there's a wedding plan soon. I want to tell
us about it.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
We're in the in the works of starting to think
about venues. We're thinking about a wedding more than we
ever have before, because I think first and foremost our
priority is buying house. We rent this beautiful home right now,
but we're looking at buying home probably by the end
of the year.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But whatever you know makes the most.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Sense, that does make sense. Actually, yeah, usual.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
That's a priority.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
That's where we want to allocate our money first and foremost,
and then obviously some money aside for a wedding. We're
thinking about October twenty twenty five, maybe here in Texas.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, I'll be back that awesomely.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I can help you, guys. My daughter got married here.
I know all the best places photographers. I'll help you out.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I know an officiate that could really help be.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But wait, I want to go back for one second,
because Zach, I'm really surprised to hear that it wasn't
until the day before engagement. Something had to happen. What
was that unique thing? What is that character trait? What
is the thing that put you over the edge?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, what I did was I when I figuratively stepped
back and thought of like, why why am I overthinking this?
Like love is actually pretty simple, like who do you
truly feel like drawn to? Who do you want to
spend your life with? So I literally just closed my
eyes and all all I could see was her. I
(10:59):
was like, I don't feel comfortable with anyone else except
her in my life, and I want to just not
end it at this engagement. I want to keep hanging
out with her, I want to keep doing life with her.
And it was just simple. I was in my hotel
the day like the day before and just obviously freaking out,
like an engagement is tomorrow, that's a big deal for everyone. Yeah,
(11:20):
But then I just I mean I prayed, like hell,
I closed my eyes and meditated. I did everything you
could to try to come to some.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You couldn't get her out of your head, But.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I couldn't get her out of my head.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know when you thought of him, when you thought
of her, you felt good.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I felt good. I was like, there's no doubt in
my mind.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
And I don't, like we've talked about this. I don't
condemn him for that. I don't like get mad at
him because it was a day before. Like that's just
the way the show works, you know what I mean,
everything's very compressed. And I don't blame him because with
like the clouded judgment, because Gabby is an incredible woman
as well.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
So when you have two, I go to my own horn.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
But when you have two incredible women in front of you,
that has to be hard, no matter what has to be.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, I get that. I get that. Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean we were talking about Joey the other day
and he got down to the two and he knew
I kind of knew that right before the overnights, the
way he was speaking to Daisy and I go, ooh,
that's telling me something right there. But he was being
true to himself.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And Joey said I heard him on another podcast or
something saying that he dreamt about her and that he
knew sort of the same thing. He said he couldn't
imagine his life without her. Yeah, so that's what we're lating.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Was for you thinking during this time, how were you
at that point?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Did you feel confident like.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You were in or like before the engagement.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes, I was confident.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
There was like a few reassuring moments that he did
give me. But also I always had the mentality that
and I always tell Zak this what's for me will
never go past me. And I know who I am.
I love that I can give somebody. I know the
value that I hold. And I was confident that if
Zach didn't see me as a lifetime partner that eventually
(13:16):
down the road, I would hope to find a man
similar to the attributes that he carries.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But Susan, don't start crying. Oh, I know it's going in.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I feel you.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You guys. I'm telling you these these last few couples,
Charity and Dotton and you guys, and Joey and Kelsey.
It's like you can it's palpable, you can feel the love.
But now, okay, we know you Kathy's listen. I am
crossing everything I can cross and some things I can't cross.
(14:01):
I have a question though, for you guys you're living together.
What's it like you come off the show you move in?
Come on, be honest, tell us about the adjustment of
living together.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And one more thing I want to add to that,
is there something that either one of you did or
do that you had to work on to make it better,
like deal breakers.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Like, uh, you cannot do this because I can't live
like that. Yeah, okay, come on, who's going first? And
no getting mad at each other?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
This okay? So I I was.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I was quite apprehensive when you know, we started talking
about moving in together, only because I was such an
independent woman before, never lived with a man. I was
very like I can do it myself kind of mentality.
And I loved my space. I love you know, kind
of like the routine of my life. So I told him,
I was like.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I need my love time.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
And I think that was something we had to work on,
because when we did end up moving in together, I had,
you know, I had mood. I was like, we I
need my time to like decompress, especially after like a
hospital shift, Like I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Got to say, you're on the whole time when you're
at the hospital.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, I come home and I've been like so selfless
all day that I just need to be selfish when
I get home and compressed and everything like that. So
I think that was a learning curve for us, because
I think Zach takes things. He's a sensitive man and
he looks into things and he overanalyzes.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
And I love that about you too.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He loves Zach. Are you a March baby by chance?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm a July leo?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Okay, all right, the lion.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Anytime, like I have a shift in my mood, he's
very aware of it, very kind of like he'll be like,
are you okay, And I'm like I'm fine, like just
like let me be kind of thing. So we really
had to adapt and learn.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
With that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, and he's like, yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I know what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
I also, like, I get these moods where I like
want everything like so clean, and I think he had
to like really learn my personality in that regard.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Because like, do you keep it clean, Sack? Do you
do you craft yourself?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Generally speaking? Yes, I like space really clean, like with
dishes or with rooms or like I like to do laundry,
like I like that stuff, but I get it too,
like where she's coming from. There's those days when you're
just like, I'm locked in. I need to clean this
place spotless and get out of my frickin way? Or
is it? Originally I was like, oh, how can I help?
(16:49):
How can I help? And I was actually hindering the
cleaning by asking her or being in her.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Way because I find it therapeutic.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, and I was feeling like.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I like it too.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Do you guys share cook too? I mean it sounds
like you sort of have your each of you has
your strong suits here. Do you guys share cooking?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We we do. We just like I like cooking for her,
so when she's at work after her ship, like my
thing I like to do for her is have like
dinner ready for her when she gets through the doors.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I lose that, Zach.
I live ten minutes. Could you let me know I
can be over for dinner in time?
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Love?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That is so sweet that you do that, seriously, Zach.
That is Katie.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
How do you feel when you walk into that?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I feel really appreciated.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh yeah, these are important moments people, everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I mean wouldn't you say, Susan, these are the things
we talked about yesterday about what we wish we had
done in our marriages. The feeling, Zach, that you're making
Katie feel appreciated and that she recognizes it. That's that's
an amazing Yeah. That it doesn't get it better than that,
it's perfect, it really does.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I love it. Anything that Katie did that you had
it wouldjus.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
To Zach, I mean just kind of what you are
sharing of. Since I'm a feeler and like, if someone's
emotions are are you know, upset or angry or sad, like,
I want to fix that. I want to make them
feel better. I want to see how they're doing. And
she doesn't particularly like to be asked about that or
(18:28):
taken care of if she wants to do.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't want to be fixed. Oh no, you can't
fix it.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
No exactly, And so I'm it took me a while
and I'm still learning still to this day of giving
her her that that space, but still letting her know
that I'm supporting her from the back. You let me
know when you are ready to share. I'm always here
for you. But I'm also working on not being on
you to see like if I could help, and.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You're very empathy. I'm sorry, very empathetic.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Empathy is a huge thing and you feel what people
are feeling. So Katie want you for you to understand
where he's coming from.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Even though you just need your space, you just want
time out to me a minute, I'll be fine, exactly.
But then you have the opposite going, well, what can
I do? Is there something I said or did anything
go wrong today?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And you're like, shut, but.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know what it's. It's we're talking about love language here.
You're both learning what each other needs and that is
exquisite that you, guys are figuring out what you need
and how to express what you need and that's called communication. Again,
are key word, so you guys clearly to me listening
(19:45):
to you, guys, it is amazing how your relationship has
blossomed and grown and you can hear and see the
love that you have for each other. But obviously you
both have had prior relationships. So I want to know
because Susan and I need all the help we can get.
What is the best dating advice you can give us
(20:08):
or that you've ever received?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Red flags are red flags.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And that's Kathy.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
That's what I said yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I always make them yellow.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Can Susan makes them yellow? I said, you can never
make a red flag into a white flag.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yes, exactly. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's a good one. Like just like, don't ignore the
red flags.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Don't ignore them.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Don't think you can fix somebody, don't think you can
change them, and don't hang on to like the small
little things and think that's love.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
About you preach.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'll preach that to people, yet I don't follow it.
You're in the moment, you're like, well, that's not that bad.
Three months later you're like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And you know what I've said to Susan. Susan, when
someone shows you who they are the first time, believe
them exactly. Okay, Zach, what about you? You have some
good advice?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, I guess the one thing that I learned that
was huge for me prior to even being on the
Bachelor ade or a bachelor, was staying true to your values.
What like, who defines you? What are things that you
will never get rid of in your life? Things that
make you you, things that you love, things that you trust,
things that you care for don't let someone else change that,
(21:22):
which I had problems when I was younger of kind
of forming to be someone that I think this person
would like me to be. God, we're shape shifting, and
then you don't have an identity whereas have your identity.
And that is the easiest way to, like when you
are dating, to figure out if this person's compatible with
you or not, is because you're just being yourself. Like
(21:42):
regardless of you lose yourself, you don't lose yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Is going to come out thrill you.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That is what he's say. And I jump into their
world and live their experiences. Now everything's all pet keen.
And then, like I said, a few months later, you
realize what about me?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Where's my hat? That was a very very good point
to make, right.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
And then you get in depth into it, and then
you you lose your sense of self and then there's
often no way to really recover from that. You just
need to step away. Whereas you want to meld the
lives together, you don't want to change to just be someone,
row together, take things from both.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It took me sixty seven years to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
See, you guys are way ahead of the curve. The curve.
How about you guys, questions any.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Questions for us about love and relationships?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Or I do have I have a question for you both.
Obviously you know filming for a Golden Bachelor has wrapped
quite some time ago. Things have kind of gone on
Joey season. Have you two been on any dates recently
with any men?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And go, Susan, Is that sad?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's so sad.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Although I did go to have some appetizers and a
cocktail with a gentleman that I met in Marshalls in November.
I love my love, so you know how you go
through your messages and I thought, oh, I'm all caught
up right.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And one night I was laying in bed and I
kept going and going.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was late February, and there was like twelve I
missed from December nineteenth, and there was this gentleman saying,
you don't know me, but my friend is trying to
get a hold of you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He doesn't use social media, so.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Here I am blah blah blah, and he goes, I
don't know if you feel comfortable sharing your information with me,
or perhaps you'd like me to share his. And then
he said, I'm going to send you a picture. He
looks like a choot, but he cleans up real well.
He sends this picture and it's the guy and I
in Marshalls.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I remember taking the picture. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That was it for me. Though, No, second day we chated,
he got sick.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, no, okay, okay, awesome, Next.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Crickets, next guy, you know, crickets, crickets for me.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Zach, you gonna sit still long enough for somebody to
ask you.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
On a day, haven't you?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Nast You go out with your buddy, but he's.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
A I have a guy friend that we go listen
to music with and stuff. But you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Uh, okay, I have a question for you guys.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Okay, okay, since Zach and I are getting married, what
marriage advice are you.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Going to give us?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
RCI are big, stay big?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You give one, I'll give one.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Go.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Definitely communicate and even though you feel sometimes uncomfortable about
saying something that may be paranoid, like he's going to
think I'm picking on something, share it because if you
hold on to it, you build resentment and then it
stays in and it doesn't work well in the end.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, that's and I would say for me, the The
biggest lesson I learned in my marriage is compromise. And
it sounds like you guys are already learning that I
didn't do a great job of it in my marriage,
but learning to compromise, because you know what, most stuff
in the world is small shit and let it go.
It just doesn't matter, you know, compromise given it's just
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not that important. So that would be my advice to you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But I want to have about date night and have
date night in great sex.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean that's important.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Do Yeah one date night minimum?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah? Good? I like it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So all right, So what do you guys? I mean,
you're young, and you're beautiful and handsome, and you have
your life ahead of you. But I want to know
what you guys look forward to about getting older when
it comes to love.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And do you want children.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I was just going to say, I think the biggest
thing that I look forward to is starting a family.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Kathy, We're going to be Auntie.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And Susan. I'm the in town Auntie, so I get
lots of time with the baby.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
She's jealous because her granddaughter liked me.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Everyone likes you, Susan, Yes they okay, So if you
could see in the future of your relationship? What would
what would you want to know? Like, just imagine you're
looking into the crystal ball of your relationship. Let's call
it ten years down the road. Obviously you said kids,
But you know, what wouldn't you want to know? You'd
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want to know the happiness the children. But what would
you not want to know? Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Uh, what I wouldn't want ten years from now, twenty
thirty old?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
What did you want to know? And what wouldn't you
want to know?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like? State? Because I feel like that's one thing that
we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
What was that I didn't hear?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah? What states you're going to live in?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Well, I'm going to say, because we want to buy
a house and we want to start a family here
in Austin.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
But I offered you mind, Zach, you know the cats?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
The cats? We did? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
What state you're going to live in the longer term?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Like are we going to spend the rest of our
our life in Texas? We don't know?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But where are you from? Originally? Both of you.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
California, Canada. We're going to summer up to Canada for
a while, so.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's cold up there the summer, not in the summer.
I have family. I have family in Cannadaicatie too. We
really are related.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So how did you get to Austin? I?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Well, different stories, but I'm a travel nurse, so I
came down actually to Texas. I worked in the er
in San Antonio and then the first time I ever
saw Austin like experience it. I was like, I'm moving here.
It made it happen. And then three weeks later went
on the Bachelor and met this.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Did you hear what she just said? Kathy?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
She came down here for and made it happen. I
admire that that was something you loved, you.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Knew you liked it. You made it happen.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
A lot of people do things and wish they could
do it, but they don't make it happen.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So you're right. And I will tell you one of
the things I've said to my own children, and I
honestly believe there's lots of things, lots of reasons to
do things in life and lots of reasons not to.
But don't ever let fear guide you make a decision,
go with it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
And.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Whether it works out or not, exactly do you work out?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You turn around and go a different way.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yeah, totally. I think it's liberating personally. I think it's
really cool to go to a place where you don't
know any you don't know you know what's going to happen,
but you do have a goal or a dream in mind,
and you just shoot for the stars and if it
doesn't work out, and work out, and if it does,
two thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Very impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Colorable and uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's I love that cat.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now, if you asked us that question, what would we
think of Kathy? I wouldn't want to know who's gonna
get ill later and meet a caretaker or who's gonna
you know what I mean, They're not even in that zone.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know what. I'm not going there, Susan. I actually
prefer to look at the positive. I don't care. I
just look for the what the next great thing that's
going to happen, and I look for it, and I
look for the positive. I don't look for the negatives,
but I want to. I think that we've got an
idea here that let's play a game. You got it, okay,
(29:46):
So it's a little like generational gap Zen's gen Z,
you know, Boomer kind of game this or this or that.
So we're gonna read out some ideas for you guys,
and you're gonna say which this or that? Okay, you're
gonna give it to us and then we'll talk about
it for a little minute. So Susan, go ahead, go
fair enough.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So meeting on a dating app or going on a
blind date?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
What would you be more comfortable with?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Dating app? Maybe? Right, because at least you see the
person before.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
It, and dating apps that like, you know, you get catfish.
You have these expectations already and then you get let down.
So maybe the blind date would be better to not
let your expectations.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And that's that's scared.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm still sitting here trying to figure out what catfish means.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right, They're not who they say they are.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Somebody shows like a picture of Megan Box and they
show up and they don't look like Megan Fox.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh that happens to us all the time, every time
Susan I have dates. The picture looks like Zach and
we get there and the guys you know, can barely
as bare ambulatory. So no, I get it. Okay, Okay,
here's here's one that I actually struggle with sometimes. You're
going on a first date, go for dinner or just
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go out for drinks.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I always involve appetizers with my cocktails, so it doesn't
have to be a full blown dinner, but I have
to eat something.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I would say first day, just drinks.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, I agree, because quick right, if it does drinks,
there could be less than an hour or.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Drink and okay, but what if you decide if you
decide you want to, will you stick around for dinner
if they if you're having a good time.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You have that option to want.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
And I think it's also really good. I will add,
because this is a pet even like a huge turnof
for me. You really do get to find out their
table manners.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
If you do have dinner with.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh, I'm out you are Susan.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So good question.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Do you let the guy on the first date or
do you split it?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
I would say would I would split it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Or me.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I'm not shy about putting my card out. I would
expect the man to be like, no, no, I got this,
But I think it's common courtesy with two strangers meeting
for the first time to offer.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I always insist, especially when I know I'll never see
this person again. I'm going to insist on paying my
hands so he didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Feel like he got taken. I feel sorry for men.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
A lot of men are on dating sites and they
got a treat every time, most of them, you know
what I mean. So I don't mind paying for my
own and I love a man that says absolutely no way, agreed.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Agreed, Okay, you can't. Oh, we've talked about this the
other day. I always I'm with you, Katie. I always
whip out my card. I always offer. I think it
is the nice, polite thing to do. And if the
guy takes the card and does it, that's fine. If
I don't like the guy and never want to see
him again, I'm with Susan. I make sure I do it.
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What about you, Zach? Come on?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I will. I have never in the past and choose
not to now. Like let the women pay for anything
like I like to put my card down, especially on
her first date. Always pay for their first day.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I feel like is that why when we went out, Zach,
Zach and Katie took me for dinner, and Zach would
not hear of me paying my way. Yeah, he said, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Well, I love to treat people like if we're out
for dinner, and I don't want it to ever be
like a weird, uncomfortable money situation for some people, because
I know finances are tough for a lot of people
to talk about. So it's like, might as well, like
I'd like to do that I treat for everyone. But
Kate is actually very gracious and she loves to take
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me out on date nights.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And that's a sweet.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Little treat sin stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't know she I.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Love that, all right, dude, for that night taking you out, honey,
because I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Okay, here's one that I'm not saying I've ever done this, However,
I'd like your ideas Snooping in a partner's phone or
reading their journal.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Which one's which ones?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think would you do either?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
No one asked me. I'm asking Zach and Katie.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I think they're kind of like on the same page
going into somebody's person, same thing journel or a text
or whatever. I think that if you even have the
thought of wanting to look in their phone, you don't
have trust, and if you don't have you don't have
a strong relationship.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And that's a whole other can of worms.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Right there, big one.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, Like if you can't have the open conversation of
maybe you're having a moment of insecurity or maybe there's
something that popped up and it's bothering you. If you
can't have that communication or ask that question of hey,
what was this about? You can't have that and you
have to resort to snooping on the phone or snooping
into a thing. That exactly what Kate just said. Your
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relationship doesn't have a foundation. You never work communication and
be able to talk and say like hey that bothered me,
or hey, what can you explain why this is this way?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That would be totally uncomfortable. I had somebody that always
snooped in my phone. I was in relationships from years.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Ago, and it's like, what are you looking for here? Here?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It is you want my password? Like I'm not hiding anything,
and be.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Careful what you look for? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Like? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You're making problems.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I again, I didn't say I've ever done either of these,
and I never would, but I just was curious saying
your thoughts. I think you two guys are so mature.
It's so clear why you guys are so happy, But
I want to end this little game with on a
little you know, more fun note good big, big wedding
or small wedding.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, we've kind of what stayed.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
We kind of toss back and forth with this. I
think if we do do a Destination.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Wedding, it's going to be a little bit more smaller,
it's going to be intimate. However, if we do a
Texas wedding, which I think we're more geared towards, I
think it will be a larger scaled wedding.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, like not like a over three hundred person.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well what did you say? Three hundred, one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars Later.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
A lot of my Texas friends come on. They've got
the biggest weddings I've ever seen. They invite everyone and
their mother and their cousin.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Susan, you know what this means, We're guaranteed to be invited.
That's either way.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
We're going Destination smaller they were they, but everybody does
everything big in Texas.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Susan still can't get over my closet size.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Okayeh, the best were the hills, and like I lived
in right outside of Dallas for nine years and it
was flat. What I missed the most about here in
Pennsylvania is my windy roads and the trees and everything
was just I got there, I thought I didn't believe I.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Was in Texas. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And the water in the middle of a city. We
went on a boat ride. I was like, what.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It is, very cool, very susan. We're going to invite
you here in the summer when it's about one hundred
and ten and am to hear you singing its praises.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'll stop coming to you late May, early June. Then
you come here.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Well, it was fabulous having you Katie and Zach on
our first guests, and we are just so thrilled to
have had you on the on the show. You are
a lovely couple. You're insightful, your kind, you're compassionate, your
everything that I would love to see in a young
couple in love. It gives me great hope.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
A hell of a future ahead of you, babies and
houses and all of the above. But first of the
weddings that we will join you. Thank you so much
both of you for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, thank you guys. We had a great time.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Thank you so much, and that does it for this
episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you so
much for joining us today and we will see you soon.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
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Speaker 1 (38:45):
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Speaker 2 (38:54):
That's why we're here.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
We'll see you all next week.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Signing off Kathy and Susan Zero
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thank you
so much for joining us. We're so excited to be
back today. And we have a special guest today, two
of them, Katie and Zach.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Zach and Katie, welcome, Thank you for having us. Yeah,
he so excited so much.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We are so excited to see you both here. Fellow Austinites. Okay,
so I just I want to ask you to guys,
so I know you both because you're a fellow Austinites
and I live in Austin as well. Katie, I want
to ask.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You which is an amazing place. By the way, I
fell in love with it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
She was here last week to marry my son and
his fiance. We had a great time. But I want
to know, Katie, do you remember how we met?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
We do airplace to u AFR.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Drunk on an airport drunk.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean not Yeah. Do you remember they let us
sit in first class while we sat there drinking? Yeah,
it was really fun.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Our economy seats we got ended up getting first class
and free wine all because of you.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Kathy though, well you know that's my girl. So we've
got a little thought of the day. Topic of the
day and since you know you guys are gen z
or whatever those things are and we're boomers. Question for
you guys, how soon is too soon to leave the
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table when you know the date is a bust?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I should?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now you guys are engaged, but think.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Back, see I feel well data bust. For me, I've
been on some dates that were a bust and I
just ride it out. I just ride it out and
then I just don't text them anymore.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I don't want to be rude.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
It's all like I'm going to get up and lead
the date. Yeah, I think that's disrespectful. I think obviously
two people come together and obviously aren't compatible for a reason,
but doesn't.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Mean you need to leave.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I totally agree, have an amazing answer and my thoughts
about it. For me, it's I agree, if you're in
an uncomfortable situation that get out, like like actual uncomfortable.
But if you're just not vibing, you have to wait
it out. That's I mean, it's like, if anything, you
can walk away or at least think about it as
(02:41):
I'm gonna have a cool story after this of how
night should the date that was?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Which is this where I chime in and say I'm
the girl here that would say I'm so sorry, I
have a bus to catch, I'm out of.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Here, or get that emergency phone call.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I'm not surprised you you know, you know I want
you get it and then you're out.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I have heard stories about people actually go into the
bathroom and never coming back.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I could do that.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
To say they climb out windows, right, it's just amazing. No,
I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. But I
might say I really not feeling well, or uh, my
daughter's in labor, or my house is on fire, I
got this.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Pain in my side. I've really got to go.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Oh those are those are some good lines though, to
get out.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Tell me what's the worst date you ever had?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Wait, you go?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I had one guy. I have a lot of comic
book dates. Actually a lot of date stories that my
friends love. But I would say, like, the weirdest date
isn't the one that you're thinking of.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But I didn't know what he's thinking because they're engaged.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Guitar.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
There was a guy who played the guitar for me
in a park in my hometown in Kingston, and we
had brunch. I remember having brunch with him and we
sat down. He like automatically looked at the menu and
was like, wow, it's really expensive here. I was like, well,
I can't order the yogurt like I always pay half
(04:31):
fast forward.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
He ended up.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
He's like, hey, like I brought my guitar. Do you
want me to sing to you in the park? And
automatically in my head, I'm like absolutely not shoot me.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Okay, so start aiding me.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
In my hometown, people I know are walking by, they're like,
so I'm he breaks in an hour just to like
get out of here.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I love thinking of but I.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
See my word date, so I's like, most interesting was
I went on a date.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I hope to God his song listening, but I went
on a date.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
With this guy no names please, no names.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Went on a date with.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
This guy and he's like a mostal speaker, like really
into his profession, like working out in all that mindset.
And I was a little late for the date, like
probably five ten minutes because I was working at the hospital,
so I had to like run home quickly get dressed,
and then come back to this restaurant. To get back
to this restaurant, He's like, wow, you're a little late,
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and I was like, yeah, well I was working, like
you're You're lucky that I'm even here right now kind.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Of but starting off really good.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He's like, do you not really know how to manage
your time correctly? I was like, pardon me.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
I was like, already, you're like axed and I probably
should have walked out, but I sat through it. And
then I sit down and he's like, he's like, I'm
not a big drinker. He tells me this story about
I'm not going to get into that, but there is
a huge.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
This is when you say I have my I have appendicitis,
I have a headache, I have a bus to catch.
This is when let's try You're right, So okay, So
I want to know, Zach, when did you know on
the show that Katie wish your girl none of this?
(06:22):
I want the real truth here. When did you know?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Oh, we actually talked about this, like two days ago.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Two days ago, we've talked about a bit because it always,
you know, watching the show kind of resparks, like the
conversations again, like of like, oh wow, we experienced something
very similar to what we're watching now. For for me,
she doesn't love my answer, but it's completely.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yeah, that's what I love.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Honesty.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yes. So throughout the whole process, I was very in
my own head. I analyzed everything to a tea. I
overwhelmed myself with like trying to figure out who's you know,
my right parson knocking off the boxes, this and that,
or like I'm trying to have every individual relationship and
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keep them siloed and not bleed into each other and
try to keep that all in my head. So the
problem was is I was being so analytical mentally that
I wasn't letting myself just take a step back and
feel like, wait, where's my heart taking me? Who do
I feel like that is my person? Who am I
truly in love with? And the actual moment when it
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happened was actually the day before engagement where.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I was nervous watch that long. I know, I know, guys,
you need to get out of your own head.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Budge, Hey, Zach, you're wait, Zach, let me just test something.
You're lucky that Katie didn't tell you she had a
bus to catch.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
That's right, true, true, But it was one of those
things that like when I took a step back and
when I was able to acknowledge, like, oh my god,
it's Katie. It was a no, duh, like, look back
at how you work with her, how you felt around her,
Like that was naturally, Like I want to just spend
my time with her.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
But now it makes you feel right, I was like, she.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Makes me feel like no one else can ever make
me feel. Yet I was still being so analytical of like, well,
let me take up every day. I can make sure
that i'm you know, because engagement is a big deal
for me. It was not just going to propose for
the sake of proposing. At the end of this like
either I'm going to feel one hundred percent confident or
not do a decision or make for myself. So for me,
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I did think of it too much. Maybe no, I think.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I think you're in a position where you do need
to think about it too much. Or I don't think
there is a level of too much. I think because
engagement is so serious and I take it serious. I
think everybody on the show does as well.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Hey, Susan, do we take an engagement seriously?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't know what that's like exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
We don't have one. Okay, Simon felt.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That yet, but I will.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I will definitely I want somebody once in my lifetime
to get down on one day.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hasn't happened. Twice hasn't happened.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
I've been guys, it will happen.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Wait, none of your husbands, of your husband? What did
they do?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Event school kind of girl? You could sing outside the
window if you want. I don't care about wait down
on one day now?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Wait the answer is no, and moving right along. I
hear there's a wedding plan soon. I want to tell
us about it.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
We're in the in the works of starting to think
about venues. We're thinking about a wedding more than we
ever have before, because I think first and foremost our
priority is buying house. We rent this beautiful home right now,
but we're looking at buying home probably by the end
of the year.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But whatever you know makes the most.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Sense, that does make sense. Actually, yeah, usual.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
That's a priority.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
That's where we want to allocate our money first and foremost,
and then obviously some money aside for a wedding. We're
thinking about October twenty twenty five, maybe here in Texas.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, I'll be back that awesomely.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I can help you, guys. My daughter got married here.
I know all the best places photographers. I'll help you out.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I know an officiate that could really help be.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But wait, I want to go back for one second,
because Zach, I'm really surprised to hear that it wasn't
until the day before engagement. Something had to happen. What
was that unique thing? What is that character trait? What
is the thing that put you over the edge?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, what I did was I when I figuratively stepped
back and thought of like, why why am I overthinking this?
Like love is actually pretty simple, like who do you
truly feel like drawn to? Who do you want to
spend your life with? So I literally just closed my
eyes and all all I could see was her. I
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was like, I don't feel comfortable with anyone else except
her in my life, and I want to just not
end it at this engagement. I want to keep hanging
out with her, I want to keep doing life with her.
And it was just simple. I was in my hotel
the day like the day before and just obviously freaking out,
like an engagement is tomorrow, that's a big deal for everyone. Yeah,
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But then I just I mean I prayed, like hell,
I closed my eyes and meditated. I did everything you
could to try to come to some.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You couldn't get her out of your head, But.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I couldn't get her out of my head.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know when you thought of him, when you thought
of her, you felt good.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I felt good. I was like, there's no doubt in
my mind.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
And I don't, like we've talked about this. I don't
condemn him for that. I don't like get mad at
him because it was a day before. Like that's just
the way the show works, you know what I mean,
everything's very compressed. And I don't blame him because with
like the clouded judgment, because Gabby is an incredible woman
as well.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
So when you have two, I go to my own horn.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
But when you have two incredible women in front of you,
that has to be hard, no matter what has to be.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, I get that. I get that. Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean we were talking about Joey the other day
and he got down to the two and he knew
I kind of knew that right before the overnights, the
way he was speaking to Daisy and I go, ooh,
that's telling me something right there. But he was being
true to himself.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And Joey said I heard him on another podcast or
something saying that he dreamt about her and that he
knew sort of the same thing. He said he couldn't
imagine his life without her. Yeah, so that's what we're lating.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Was for you thinking during this time, how were you
at that point?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Did you feel confident like.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You were in or like before the engagement.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes, I was confident.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
There was like a few reassuring moments that he did
give me. But also I always had the mentality that
and I always tell Zak this what's for me will
never go past me. And I know who I am.
I love that I can give somebody. I know the
value that I hold. And I was confident that if
Zach didn't see me as a lifetime partner that eventually
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down the road, I would hope to find a man
similar to the attributes that he carries.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
But Susan, don't start crying. Oh, I know it's going in.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I feel you.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You guys. I'm telling you these these last few couples,
Charity and Dotton and you guys, and Joey and Kelsey.
It's like you can it's palpable, you can feel the love.
But now, okay, we know you Kathy's listen. I am
crossing everything I can cross and some things I can't cross.
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I have a question though, for you guys you're living together.
What's it like you come off the show you move in?
Come on, be honest, tell us about the adjustment of
living together.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And one more thing I want to add to that,
is there something that either one of you did or
do that you had to work on to make it better,
like deal breakers.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Like, uh, you cannot do this because I can't live
like that. Yeah, okay, come on, who's going first? And
no getting mad at each other?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
This okay? So I I was.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I was quite apprehensive when you know, we started talking
about moving in together, only because I was such an
independent woman before, never lived with a man. I was
very like I can do it myself kind of mentality.
And I loved my space. I love you know, kind
of like the routine of my life. So I told him,
I was like.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I need my love time.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
And I think that was something we had to work on,
because when we did end up moving in together, I had,
you know, I had mood. I was like, we I
need my time to like decompress, especially after like a
hospital shift, Like I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Got to say, you're on the whole time when you're
at the hospital.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, I come home and I've been like so selfless
all day that I just need to be selfish when
I get home and compressed and everything like that. So
I think that was a learning curve for us, because
I think Zach takes things. He's a sensitive man and
he looks into things and he overanalyzes.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
And I love that about you too.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He loves Zach. Are you a March baby by chance?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm a July leo?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Okay, all right, the lion.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Anytime, like I have a shift in my mood, he's
very aware of it, very kind of like he'll be like,
are you okay, And I'm like I'm fine, like just
like let me be kind of thing. So we really
had to adapt and learn.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
With that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, and he's like, yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I know what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
I also, like, I get these moods where I like
want everything like so clean, and I think he had
to like really learn my personality in that regard.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Because like, do you keep it clean, Sack? Do you
do you craft yourself?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Generally speaking? Yes, I like space really clean, like with
dishes or with rooms or like I like to do laundry,
like I like that stuff, but I get it too,
like where she's coming from. There's those days when you're
just like, I'm locked in. I need to clean this
place spotless and get out of my frickin way? Or
is it? Originally I was like, oh, how can I help?
(16:49):
How can I help? And I was actually hindering the
cleaning by asking her or being in her.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Way because I find it therapeutic.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, and I was feeling like.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I like it too.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Do you guys share cook too? I mean it sounds
like you sort of have your each of you has
your strong suits here. Do you guys share cooking?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We we do. We just like I like cooking for her,
so when she's at work after her ship, like my
thing I like to do for her is have like
dinner ready for her when she gets through the doors.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I lose that, Zach.
I live ten minutes. Could you let me know I
can be over for dinner in time?
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Love?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That is so sweet that you do that, seriously, Zach.
That is Katie.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
How do you feel when you walk into that?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I feel really appreciated.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh yeah, these are important moments people, everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I mean wouldn't you say, Susan, these are the things
we talked about yesterday about what we wish we had
done in our marriages. The feeling, Zach, that you're making
Katie feel appreciated and that she recognizes it. That's that's
an amazing Yeah. That it doesn't get it better than that,
it's perfect, it really does.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I love it. Anything that Katie did that you had
it wouldjus.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
To Zach, I mean just kind of what you are
sharing of. Since I'm a feeler and like, if someone's
emotions are are you know, upset or angry or sad, like,
I want to fix that. I want to make them
feel better. I want to see how they're doing. And
she doesn't particularly like to be asked about that or
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taken care of if she wants to do.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't want to be fixed. Oh no, you can't
fix it.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
No exactly, And so I'm it took me a while
and I'm still learning still to this day of giving
her her that that space, but still letting her know
that I'm supporting her from the back. You let me
know when you are ready to share. I'm always here
for you. But I'm also working on not being on
you to see like if I could help, and.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You're very empathy. I'm sorry, very empathetic.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Empathy is a huge thing and you feel what people
are feeling. So Katie want you for you to understand
where he's coming from.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Even though you just need your space, you just want
time out to me a minute, I'll be fine, exactly.
But then you have the opposite going, well, what can
I do? Is there something I said or did anything
go wrong today?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And you're like, shut, but.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know what it's. It's we're talking about love language here.
You're both learning what each other needs and that is
exquisite that you, guys are figuring out what you need
and how to express what you need and that's called communication. Again,
are key word, so you guys clearly to me listening
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to you, guys, it is amazing how your relationship has
blossomed and grown and you can hear and see the
love that you have for each other. But obviously you
both have had prior relationships. So I want to know
because Susan and I need all the help we can get.
What is the best dating advice you can give us
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or that you've ever received?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Red flags are red flags.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And that's Kathy.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
That's what I said yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I always make them yellow.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Can Susan makes them yellow? I said, you can never
make a red flag into a white flag.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yes, exactly. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's a good one. Like just like, don't ignore the
red flags.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Don't ignore them.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Don't think you can fix somebody, don't think you can
change them, and don't hang on to like the small
little things and think that's love.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
About you preach.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'll preach that to people, yet I don't follow it.
You're in the moment, you're like, well, that's not that bad.
Three months later you're like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And you know what I've said to Susan. Susan, when
someone shows you who they are the first time, believe
them exactly. Okay, Zach, what about you? You have some
good advice?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, I guess the one thing that I learned that
was huge for me prior to even being on the
Bachelor ade or a bachelor, was staying true to your values.
What like, who defines you? What are things that you
will never get rid of in your life? Things that
make you you, things that you love, things that you trust,
things that you care for don't let someone else change that,
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which I had problems when I was younger of kind
of forming to be someone that I think this person
would like me to be. God, we're shape shifting, and
then you don't have an identity whereas have your identity.
And that is the easiest way to, like when you
are dating, to figure out if this person's compatible with
you or not, is because you're just being yourself. Like
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regardless of you lose yourself, you don't lose yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Is going to come out thrill you.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That is what he's say. And I jump into their
world and live their experiences. Now everything's all pet keen.
And then, like I said, a few months later, you
realize what about me?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Where's my hat? That was a very very good point
to make, right.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
And then you get in depth into it, and then
you you lose your sense of self and then there's
often no way to really recover from that. You just
need to step away. Whereas you want to meld the
lives together, you don't want to change to just be someone,
row together, take things from both.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It took me sixty seven years to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
See, you guys are way ahead of the curve. The curve.
How about you guys, questions any.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Questions for us about love and relationships?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Or I do have I have a question for you both.
Obviously you know filming for a Golden Bachelor has wrapped
quite some time ago. Things have kind of gone on
Joey season. Have you two been on any dates recently
with any men?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And go, Susan, Is that sad?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's so sad.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Although I did go to have some appetizers and a
cocktail with a gentleman that I met in Marshalls in November.
I love my love, so you know how you go
through your messages and I thought, oh, I'm all caught
up right.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And one night I was laying in bed and I
kept going and going.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was late February, and there was like twelve I
missed from December nineteenth, and there was this gentleman saying,
you don't know me, but my friend is trying to
get a hold of you.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He doesn't use social media, so.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Here I am blah blah blah, and he goes, I
don't know if you feel comfortable sharing your information with me,
or perhaps you'd like me to share his. And then
he said, I'm going to send you a picture. He
looks like a choot, but he cleans up real well.
He sends this picture and it's the guy and I
in Marshalls.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I remember taking the picture. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That was it for me. Though, No, second day we chated,
he got sick.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, no, okay, okay, awesome, Next.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Crickets, next guy, you know, crickets, crickets for me.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Zach, you gonna sit still long enough for somebody to
ask you.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
On a day, haven't you?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Nast You go out with your buddy, but he's.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
A I have a guy friend that we go listen
to music with and stuff. But you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Uh, okay, I have a question for you guys.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Okay, okay, since Zach and I are getting married, what
marriage advice are you.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Going to give us?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
RCI are big, stay big?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You give one, I'll give one.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Go.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Definitely communicate and even though you feel sometimes uncomfortable about
saying something that may be paranoid, like he's going to
think I'm picking on something, share it because if you
hold on to it, you build resentment and then it
stays in and it doesn't work well in the end.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, that's and I would say for me, the The
biggest lesson I learned in my marriage is compromise. And
it sounds like you guys are already learning that I
didn't do a great job of it in my marriage,
but learning to compromise, because you know what, most stuff
in the world is small shit and let it go.
It just doesn't matter, you know, compromise given it's just
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not that important. So that would be my advice to you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But I want to have about date night and have
date night in great sex.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean that's important.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Do Yeah one date night minimum?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah? Good? I like it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So all right, So what do you guys? I mean,
you're young, and you're beautiful and handsome, and you have
your life ahead of you. But I want to know
what you guys look forward to about getting older when
it comes to love.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
And do you want children.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I was just going to say, I think the biggest
thing that I look forward to is starting a family.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Kathy, We're going to be Auntie.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And Susan. I'm the in town Auntie, so I get
lots of time with the baby.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
She's jealous because her granddaughter liked me.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Everyone likes you, Susan, Yes they okay, So if you
could see in the future of your relationship? What would
what would you want to know? Like, just imagine you're
looking into the crystal ball of your relationship. Let's call
it ten years down the road. Obviously you said kids,
But you know, what wouldn't you want to know? You'd
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want to know the happiness the children. But what would
you not want to know? Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Uh, what I wouldn't want ten years from now, twenty
thirty old?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
What did you want to know? And what wouldn't you
want to know?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like? State? Because I feel like that's one thing that
we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
What was that I didn't hear?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah? What states you're going to live in?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Well, I'm going to say, because we want to buy
a house and we want to start a family here
in Austin.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
But I offered you mind, Zach, you know the cats?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
The cats? We did? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
What state you're going to live in the longer term?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Like are we going to spend the rest of our
our life in Texas? We don't know?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But where are you from? Originally? Both of you.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
California, Canada. We're going to summer up to Canada for
a while, so.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's cold up there the summer, not in the summer.
I have family. I have family in Cannadaicatie too. We
really are related.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So how did you get to Austin? I?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Well, different stories, but I'm a travel nurse, so I
came down actually to Texas. I worked in the er
in San Antonio and then the first time I ever
saw Austin like experience it. I was like, I'm moving here.
It made it happen. And then three weeks later went
on the Bachelor and met this.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Did you hear what she just said? Kathy?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
She came down here for and made it happen. I
admire that that was something you loved, you.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Knew you liked it. You made it happen.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
A lot of people do things and wish they could
do it, but they don't make it happen.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So you're right. And I will tell you one of
the things I've said to my own children, and I
honestly believe there's lots of things, lots of reasons to
do things in life and lots of reasons not to.
But don't ever let fear guide you make a decision,
go with it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
And.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Whether it works out or not, exactly do you work out?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You turn around and go a different way.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yeah, totally. I think it's liberating personally. I think it's
really cool to go to a place where you don't
know any you don't know you know what's going to happen,
but you do have a goal or a dream in mind,
and you just shoot for the stars and if it
doesn't work out, and work out, and if it does,
two thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Very impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Colorable and uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's I love that cat.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now, if you asked us that question, what would we
think of Kathy? I wouldn't want to know who's gonna
get ill later and meet a caretaker or who's gonna
you know what I mean, They're not even in that zone.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know what. I'm not going there, Susan. I actually
prefer to look at the positive. I don't care. I
just look for the what the next great thing that's
going to happen, and I look for it, and I
look for the positive. I don't look for the negatives,
but I want to. I think that we've got an
idea here that let's play a game. You got it, okay,
(29:46):
So it's a little like generational gap Zen's gen Z,
you know, Boomer kind of game this or this or that.
So we're gonna read out some ideas for you guys,
and you're gonna say which this or that? Okay, you're
gonna give it to us and then we'll talk about
it for a little minute. So Susan, go ahead, go
fair enough.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So meeting on a dating app or going on a
blind date?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
What would you be more comfortable with?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Dating app? Maybe? Right, because at least you see the
person before.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
It, and dating apps that like, you know, you get catfish.
You have these expectations already and then you get let down.
So maybe the blind date would be better to not
let your expectations.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And that's that's scared.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm still sitting here trying to figure out what catfish means.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right, They're not who they say they are.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Somebody shows like a picture of Megan Box and they
show up and they don't look like Megan Fox.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh that happens to us all the time, every time
Susan I have dates. The picture looks like Zach and
we get there and the guys you know, can barely
as bare ambulatory. So no, I get it. Okay, Okay,
here's here's one that I actually struggle with sometimes. You're
going on a first date, go for dinner or just
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go out for drinks.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I always involve appetizers with my cocktails, so it doesn't
have to be a full blown dinner, but I have
to eat something.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I would say first day, just drinks.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, I agree, because quick right, if it does drinks,
there could be less than an hour or.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Drink and okay, but what if you decide if you
decide you want to, will you stick around for dinner
if they if you're having a good time.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You have that option to want.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
And I think it's also really good. I will add,
because this is a pet even like a huge turnof
for me. You really do get to find out their
table manners.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
If you do have dinner with.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh, I'm out you are Susan.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So good question.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Do you let the guy on the first date or
do you split it?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
I would say would I would split it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Or me.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I'm not shy about putting my card out. I would
expect the man to be like, no, no, I got this,
But I think it's common courtesy with two strangers meeting
for the first time to offer.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I always insist, especially when I know I'll never see
this person again. I'm going to insist on paying my
hands so he didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Feel like he got taken. I feel sorry for men.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
A lot of men are on dating sites and they
got a treat every time, most of them, you know
what I mean. So I don't mind paying for my
own and I love a man that says absolutely no way, agreed.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Agreed, Okay, you can't. Oh, we've talked about this the
other day. I always I'm with you, Katie. I always
whip out my card. I always offer. I think it
is the nice, polite thing to do. And if the
guy takes the card and does it, that's fine. If
I don't like the guy and never want to see
him again, I'm with Susan. I make sure I do it.
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What about you, Zach? Come on?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I will. I have never in the past and choose
not to now. Like let the women pay for anything
like I like to put my card down, especially on
her first date. Always pay for their first day.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I feel like is that why when we went out, Zach,
Zach and Katie took me for dinner, and Zach would
not hear of me paying my way. Yeah, he said, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Well, I love to treat people like if we're out
for dinner, and I don't want it to ever be
like a weird, uncomfortable money situation for some people, because
I know finances are tough for a lot of people
to talk about. So it's like, might as well, like
I'd like to do that I treat for everyone. But
Kate is actually very gracious and she loves to take
(33:55):
me out on date nights.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And that's a sweet.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Little treat sin stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't know she I.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Love that, all right, dude, for that night taking you out, honey,
because I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Okay, here's one that I'm not saying I've ever done this, However,
I'd like your ideas Snooping in a partner's phone or
reading their journal.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Which one's which ones?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think would you do either?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
No one asked me. I'm asking Zach and Katie.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I think they're kind of like on the same page
going into somebody's person, same thing journel or a text
or whatever. I think that if you even have the
thought of wanting to look in their phone, you don't
have trust, and if you don't have you don't have
a strong relationship.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And that's a whole other can of worms.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Right there, big one.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, Like if you can't have the open conversation of
maybe you're having a moment of insecurity or maybe there's
something that popped up and it's bothering you. If you
can't have that communication or ask that question of hey,
what was this about? You can't have that and you
have to resort to snooping on the phone or snooping
into a thing. That exactly what Kate just said. Your
(35:21):
relationship doesn't have a foundation. You never work communication and
be able to talk and say like hey that bothered me,
or hey, what can you explain why this is this way?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That would be totally uncomfortable. I had somebody that always
snooped in my phone. I was in relationships from years.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Ago, and it's like, what are you looking for here? Here?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It is you want my password? Like I'm not hiding anything,
and be.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Careful what you look for? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Like? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You're making problems.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I again, I didn't say I've ever done either of these,
and I never would, but I just was curious saying
your thoughts. I think you two guys are so mature.
It's so clear why you guys are so happy, But
I want to end this little game with on a
little you know, more fun note good big, big wedding
or small wedding.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, we've kind of what stayed.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
We kind of toss back and forth with this. I
think if we do do a Destination.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Wedding, it's going to be a little bit more smaller,
it's going to be intimate. However, if we do a
Texas wedding, which I think we're more geared towards, I
think it will be a larger scaled wedding.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, like not like a over three hundred person.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well what did you say? Three hundred, one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars Later.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
A lot of my Texas friends come on. They've got
the biggest weddings I've ever seen. They invite everyone and
their mother and their cousin.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Susan, you know what this means, We're guaranteed to be invited.
That's either way.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
We're going Destination smaller they were they, but everybody does
everything big in Texas.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Susan still can't get over my closet size.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Okayeh, the best were the hills, and like I lived
in right outside of Dallas for nine years and it
was flat. What I missed the most about here in
Pennsylvania is my windy roads and the trees and everything
was just I got there, I thought I didn't believe I.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Was in Texas. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And the water in the middle of a city. We
went on a boat ride. I was like, what.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It is, very cool, very susan. We're going to invite
you here in the summer when it's about one hundred
and ten and am to hear you singing its praises.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'll stop coming to you late May, early June. Then
you come here.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Well, it was fabulous having you Katie and Zach on
our first guests, and we are just so thrilled to
have had you on the on the show. You are
a lovely couple. You're insightful, your kind, you're compassionate, your
everything that I would love to see in a young
couple in love. It gives me great hope.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
A hell of a future ahead of you, babies and
houses and all of the above. But first of the
weddings that we will join you. Thank you so much
both of you for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, thank you guys. We had a great time.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Thank you so much, and that does it for this
episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you so
much for joining us today and we will see you soon.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Be sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour as
we do have new episodes coming out every week. You
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Speaker 1 (38:45):
And make sure you submit your questions because you can
go to Bachelornation dot com. Because we want to hear
what you have to say so we can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
That's why we're here.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
We'll see you all next week.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Signing off Kathy and Susan Zero
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