February 11, 2025 • 47 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re diving into all things finance, fights, and more from last night’s episode of “The Bachelor”! We kick off the episode getting into the Finance Date and Serena’s petition for more Hannah Berner in this franchise. Then, we explore the explosive drama between Zoe and Alli Jo, including Serena and Joe’s thoughts on Sarafiena’s dress comment. And, of course, we tackle the major drama between Rose and Carolina: Is it ever a good idea to go to the lead with drama without name-dropping? Plus, we have a special bonus interview with Beverly to learn more about her shocking departure and what’s next for her. Tune in now to hear it all, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here to recap
episode three of Grant season. And then at the end
of this episode, we are gonna be having Beverly on
for a quick chat because we see her departure in
this episode and we don't.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Really get a well, so we don't see her departure.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, we don't see her departure, but they say she's sick.
So we're gonna ask her a little more about what happened,
because it seemed like her and Grant could have potentially
went somewhere, considering he picked her as the other person
on the one on one day.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, I liked her, and I'm definitely looking forward to
just checking in on her health and finding out more
about what happened with that situation.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, okay, so let's uh, let's get into it, shall we.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Let's do it so we have You're gonna lead?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Sure, Okay, I was just letting you know, do you
want to lead?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want you to lead.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh okay, you're welcome to take it away. No, no, no, okay,
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm usually the one leading these these.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Recaps now Oh okay, I got all the detailed notes
going on my phone.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh okay, well maybe you can lead next week.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I just hope I don't kick it out of order.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know, it's not about it's not about leading, you know,
this is just a conversation, just a friendly, friendly convo.
So we have the first group date, and it's a
pretty large group date. We find out right away basically
everyone's going on it except for Beverly, who is going
to have the one on one day, and Carolina, and
(01:34):
it's kind of giving finance Bro grant. The whole theme
of the date is money, money, education, financial knowledge.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
They play they play that finance Bro song What you
didn't hear that? What's the song that like went viral
on tick.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Talk, the one that's like I'm looking for a man
in finance? Do they play that?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
No, way, I totally miss that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Really yeah yeah, which is so weird.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I feel like I'm usually pretty good about picking up
on like.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, that's well the way you said it, I was like, yeah,
they are you going to give a nod to the
fact that it was a song because the way you
said I was like, yeah, that's that's what we saw.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But no, yeah, Oh that's I wish I picked up
on that. That's fantastic that they use that song. Yeah,
And we have two guest judges guest hosts for the
State if you will. We have Hannah Berner, who is
a comedian and a former Bravo star on Summer House,
and then we have Daniel Lubetski who is from Shark Tank.
(02:35):
Both fantastic, but I mean we have to give the
gold star to Hannah Burner on the date. She really
took control and.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, she hosted it and it was she was very
She's very funny. We saw her do stand up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Live, Oh yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
She was great.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
She's funny, and I thought she did a really good job.
I like that she called herself out on like why
the fuck am I on a hosting a date about
finance when I'm a comedian, Like, no, it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Was I'm glad you called that out too, because when
they came out and I was like, okay, like this
dude from Shark Tank, yeah, you know, makes sense. And
then I was like, but how does Hannah Burner fit
on this date? But she really did a good job
of being like, I don't fit on this date. So
I'm gonna make this date fit.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
For me, and you could tell a lot of the
girls were fans of her, like definitely Bailey, who was
playing the game in a direction that Hannah Berner would
be like, yes, I'm choosing you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Bailey was working smarter, not harder on this date, Like
she knew who her audience was for these answers, and
it wasn't Daniel, you know, it was It was Hannah,
and hence why she ended up winning.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But what did you think about Parisa sitting next to Grant?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I mean, I feel like that situation because we've seen
a few of these classroom style dates. It's it kind
of happens every season. I personally like them. I think
they're fun and a fun dynamic, and every season it
feels like the chair next to the lead is both
extremely coveted and also like no one wants it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's like taboo.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know if you said when we were watching
it that you wouldn't take that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Seat, No, I probably wouldn't, but not for any reason
of like I think there's anything wrong with taking that seat.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I just think.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think there's a sense of nervousness around being like Ooh,
I'm going to take the seat next to the lead,
and then you're kind of putting yourself out there with Grant,
And then it's also like this pressure to make the
most of that moment when you're also doing like this
group activity. I think it's like a bit of a
blessing and a curse sitting in that spot. But I
think she was a good person to do it because
(04:44):
she has such a goofy personality and they clearly have
a lot of fun together that I think she would
be able to shine in that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, I like her. She's really growing on me.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
She's growing on me too.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
She definitely set a I didn't know how to read
her in the first episode with the PowerPoint and everything. Yeah,
and I just feel like she's continued on the streak
of being really goofy, and the fact that Grant is
totally into it makes it.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Even more fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, what did you think of Zoe on this date?
She definitely seemed to struggle. I feel like this is
not in common. There's usually one or two girls on
dates that are like major rule followers when it comes
to the rules of the activity and the rules of
the game. That they're playing, and Bailey was obviously like, look,
(05:31):
it's just fun.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like this is not that serious.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
We're not he doesn't actually care about if we know
what ATM stands for. And Zoe definitely was the opposite
of like you ask a question, I give you an answer,
and why aren't you guys giving proper answers.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think what we saw with Zoe is basically the
blueprint of how she's going to be the entire season.
I don't think it's ever going to change. I don't
think Zoe is ever going to be able to feel
comfortable on a group date or in a group setting
with these girls because they all have the same objective
and she's a very competitive person and just kind of
(06:09):
like when we when we interviewed her, and she seems
she seems fairly like analytical and just like gold driven.
And the goal right now is Grant, and I think
anything that prohibits her to get to her goal, it's
going to just totally throw her off. So like to me,
(06:30):
it's always someone that could have a could be on
a group date, have the most one on one time
with Grant, it go really well, and then the night
portion Grant doesn't like pull her first, and she's completely
in her head. And I think we're going to see
that the whole season with her. I mean, so far,
(06:51):
it's been kind of every episode.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think she's someone that's going to struggle. It was
a little ironic because she she was the person on
the last group date that we're like, was the one
bending the rules by like taking him up to the
roof and being like, oh, it's my turn to shoot,
but like the rules are there are no rules, Grant,
Let's go have someone on one time, And now she's
(07:16):
a rule follower. But I also think, you know, she's
an academic, she's a really smart cookie.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
She's good at schoolmart cookie.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
She's a smart cookie.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
She is, And I think she took this as like
a test that she could get an A plus on
when she needed to almost like integrate her mentality from
last week about like it's just a group date. It's
supposed to be fun. It's not that serious, like we're
all playing. Yeah, so yeah, I agree, she kind of
(07:48):
went one extreme to the other.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Do we want to jump straight to her night portion
with him? Because she this is when she kind of
breaks down and tells Grant like people are picking on her.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, let's jump to the night post closing out the day.
You know, Bailey wins the Grant Buck, she's kind of
rewarded for her creativity. I also think that Hannah Berner
should come back and host more dates. I think she's
actually like a perfect fit for hosting dates on this show.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I think she'd be a great host of.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
The entire franchise. Yeah, Hannah, you heard it here first.
All right, let's jump to the night portion. So Zoe
shares her vulnerability, shares her vulnerability. I don't think that
makes sense. She's Zoe's vulnerable with Grant about being uncomfortable
and out of her element. On the group date, Alie
(08:36):
Joe basically says this is the Bachelor, not the Zoe Show.
And I think that Ali Joe is someone that was
really fed up with her last week and is just
like still fed up with her.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, it seems like all the girls seem a little
fed up with her. And then we hear the comment
from Sarah Fina that's the shortest dress I've ever seen. Yeah,
which you were like that that's pretty mean.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, I thought it was pretty mean.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I I don't know, I don't find that. That mean, like,
I feel like if I was just put myself in
this situation, if I was on if I was on
the group date and I was kind of having a
hard time and kind of alienating myself and then like
(09:30):
somebody made a comment about my.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Suit, you would actually lose your mind?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Do you think so? Maybe? I just I don't think like,
out of all the things.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You don't like being criticized about your wardrobe, I just
think out of all the ways to be criticized, like
being like that's the shortest dress I ever seen, I.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Don't know if that's a big enough reason to like
bring that up to grant.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mean, do I think it's a I don't think
it was just about the comment. I get what you're saying.
I'm gonna like pull my girl card on this one
and say, like, I just think like, as a girl,
it's like a deeper thing than her just like criticizing
her wardrobe choice.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Sure, sure, clearly there's a group of girls right now
that that I don't want to say they don't like Zoe,
but they don't like vibe well with Zoey.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, yeah, the thing is is, I don't know, I
feel like I'm gonna be in the minority here. Maybe
it's because we just had her on for an interview
last week, but like I did feel kind of bad
for Zoe, and I feel like she shared how she
was feeling to the girls and just said like, I
had a really hard time today and was really vulnerable.
(10:46):
And I can kind of understand the girl's frustration because again,
it just seems like none of them are connecting with her.
She really centered herself on the last group date, and
they're probably putting their guards up of like, oh gosh,
like what is what is this going to lead to now?
Like we already had an entire group date surrounding around
drama with Zobe and are we now going to be
(11:06):
dealing with that again. But it's hard to watch someone
feel like an outsider and struggle emotionally and then watch
the girls kind of turn on her for that. Like
they could have just been like, hey, we're really sorry
that you felt that way in the mind of their business,
and it felt like they kind of, I don't know,
(11:28):
used it against her a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
That might be a strong word. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I personally, I just feel like Zoe, I agree, like
I don't think there's any reason, and I never think
it's a good look to like pick on someone or
be mean to someone. But in the women's defense in
this episode, Zoe is the competitive one. Yes, she's the
(11:58):
one bringing the competitive nature to the group. So when
you do do that, it's probably gonna be hard to
connect with the group of girls who don't think that.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Way, right, And I guess from their perspective, it's like
Zoe came in really hot and really competitive from like
night one with the T shirt canon and now it's
almost like I could see them taking it as like, well,
she's just being a sore loser, like the attention wasn't
on her. She didn't win this group date, she didn't thrive,
and like now she is crying about it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And also Zoe's having a hard time, but she asked
any of the other girls if they're having a hard time,
like are are those like? You know, the conversation goes
both ways, right, It's not always on someone to cater
to your needs, Like you should have the conversation if like,
if you're struggling, maybe go up to Sarah Fina and
(12:50):
be like how do you feel? Like are you struggling
as well, like you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Well that's so that's such a sweetye perspective.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Joe, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
How do do you feel about Zoe telling Grant about
it and Grant's response.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I'd like Zoe telling Grant just because we need a
little bit of something, you know, you need a little
bit of drama in the show, so like, yeah, bringing on. Yeah,
I thought Grant handled it really well.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I thought so too.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I was actually really impressed with his response, and I
thought he did a really good job comforting her.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He seems as of now, as of now, he seems
that he will tackle any issue head on, like immediately,
which is how like some I feel like I would
go about it like just like okay, well then like
instead of letting it like simmer and drag on for episodes, like,
(13:42):
he really tries to tackle what's going on in the moment.
So I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I like it too. I think he does a
good job of like not being like ah, like leave
me out of your shit, but then also not getting involved.
I feel like he handles it in a very like
clean direct way of like I don't tolerate this, like
cut it out kind of thing and also like making
(14:08):
the person that is feeling hurt comforted.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And I think him giving the group date rows to
Parisa should be a signed to all the other women
of like I'm like, let's have a little fun. Yeah,
like I want to have I want to like it's
one thing, like we do want to get married and
we want to take this serious. But I'm not gonna
be able to get to that level with you if
(14:33):
we're not going to have a little bit of fun
and like if you're the conversation you're having with Grant
are about other women or feeling uncomfortable and you know,
it's really early. Yeah, So I think good for Parsa.
She's the one. What were they eating.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They were like shoving rice crispy trace They were shoving
them in their mouth, which is honestly so funny.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
It was like be Bunny with rice crispies. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But I actually, yeah, I liked that she got the
group date Rose. I thought that was a surprising pick,
but a telling pick. I also am just like kind
of growing to be this fan of Preeza, so.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was excited for her.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
He did address the group and say I've heard some
rumors about people belittling and we have to be kind
to each other because Zoe obviously didn't give a name.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And we can talk about this more later because it
kind of comes up again as a theme this episode.
What do you think about when girls bring drama to
Grant and they don't give a name and then he
asks for a name, and they like, what do you
think you do if you're gonna bring drama to the lead, Like,
do you think you need to just be like this
is who did it? Or do you think you don't
give a name? If they ask, do you give the name?
(15:46):
Like it does get kind of confusing, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're they're half asking it. It's like if you wanna
if if you're gonna go and do this, then do.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It all you think you think? You like, come in
hot and say like so and so said.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
This to me, Yeah I or don't bring it to
his attention because you know he's gonna want to know
and he's gonna do his best to find out who
it is. So it's like either come with all the
facts or don't come at all.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Because then on one hand, it's like, but what if
you want to share the fact that you're having a
really hard time, but you don't want it to become
like war with the women in the house.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Then you could say I'm having a really hard time
and then if he's asked why, be like, I'm just
not really getting along with all the women.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
But she she directly called it a situation that was
targeted towards her, right, Yeah, and then didn't want to
give the name.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, And I think Carolina almost did the same thing.
I think she ended up saying Rose's name, yeah, Like
it took a while, Yeah, And it's just like, well,
I get I feel like it's one of those things
where I feel like they go in wanting to tell
Grant what went down, and then midway are like reversing
(17:04):
and they don't want to do it, and then they
get caught up and then like, now I'm in this situation. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, it's definitely something I feel like, I don't know
what my stance is on It can kind of depends
on the situation. But I did think it was interesting
that she didn't call it out. But then I think
it was Juliana who actually had a really cute chat
with Grant this episode.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Juliana called her out directly.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
She was like, okay, I think we can stop wasting
our breath. Like, Zoe, what did you say to Grant,
which like I appreciate, you know, like let's cut the bullshit,
Like you all know it was Zoe, you all know
what went down before you know the night started.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like let's just be direct here.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Zoe's response was I could chat whatever I want to
chat about.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I don't know what I was expecting, but that one
caught me off guard. I was like, okay, yes, like
you know, I guess you're right. You can chat with
him whatever you want to chat about. I wonder if
there was more conversation that went on after that comment.
I feel like there might have been that we didn't see.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I don't. I can't imagine that that closed out the conversation.
It was like a mic drop, let's all go to bed.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's it's hard to watch all of it, to be honest,
because you know so well. On one hand, I always
feel bad for the person that feels alone and it's
by themselves and feels like they're getting pushed around or
whatever the case may be. And then on the other hand,
it's like, well, you commit it to a social experiment
(18:29):
of a show with a group of people who are
all going through the same thing, So it's like you
also have to bend a little bit and play the
game because we're all here trying to do the same thing. Yeah,
and it just it's always just like this just never
goes well for any of the main participants involved.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
One hundred and I think it's evident.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I don't know if Zoe has experienced this throughout most
of her life or if this is strictly on this show,
but she's definitely struggling to connect to make friends with
the other women, and it might just boil down to
her specific personality is not the most conducive to this environment,
(19:15):
and that is going to make things really hard on her.
And it doesn't justify the girls being mean to her
in any way, but she might have to like put
in a little more effort than the average person because
you it's not going to make it any easier for
you if you can't have some friends in the house
that like you can rely on and they feel like
(19:37):
they can rely on you too, Yea. So it's yeah,
it's a bit of a messy situation. But okay, so
the next morning, literally everyone's crying. We've got like six
of them sobbing surrounding the house.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Seems I mean, I was like, this is a little ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It did feel ridiculous for sure, but I will I'll
make an assumption here that could be wrong. But watching
Alex just like cuttle up on the couch sobbing, it
was kind of giving a mix of like genuine stress
and like, you know, she seemed upset about the situation.
She expressed that, like they've really been trying to be
(20:16):
friends with Zoe and they have not been succeeding, so
like it's frustrating that they're getting pulled into this drama
with her when like there's not much more they can do,
which I thought was an interesting piece of insight into
what's going on in the house. But it was also
giving like she seemed really overtired, like that kind of
like I'm exhausted cry of like, you know, not try
(20:38):
to invalidate her feelings here, but I've been on the
show and like those first few weeks, it's a huge adjustment,
a new environment, new people, your high stress, high emotions,
and you're really not sleeping, Like I wanted to be
like all of y'all, you need to go back to
bed for three more hours or sneak in a nap
today because you know, emotions are flying wild. I think
I think a little, you know, mas those hierarchy of needs,
(21:01):
like we need sleep and food survive, like we need
a little extra sleep here to kind of get our
emotions in check, and all perspective on how dramatic the
situation actually is.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Whose hierarchy needs.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Maslow's.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Isn't that right, Maslow's hierarchy. Yeah, it's like a It's
like it's like the pyramid of like what a human
needs to survive from base level to like the most
important to the least important.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Nice, Okay, anyway, Okay, let's move on to Carolina's one
on one day we spent. We spent a lot of
time on that first date.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean I would say, just the date itself,
there's not much to really talk about. They jump off
of a building.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, which looked just absolutely horrifying and terrible, terrible and scary.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
But like I would pick that over skydiving or bunge of.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
They seem to be having fun. Yeah, I would say
the part to talk about is the night portion. Yeah,
she discloses that she she was very emotional, and she
disclosed that she had epilepsy and not everyone that has
been in her life has been kind about or I
wouldn't say kind about it, but have haven't.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Been able to be supportive her. Yeah, watching it, I was.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Maybe not confused, just like aware of how ignorant I
am to epilepsy, Like I really don't know anything about
it other than the fact that you're prone to seizures.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So I did you know?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Ask around well and am I am?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I head? I was just like, what kind of a
friend would no longer be your friend if you because.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You have epilepsy? No, I know that was what I
was wondering too.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But it does seem like I talked to someone about
it and they were saying, like, when you're in a
relationship with someone with epilepsy, like it is a team effort,
Like it does require a lot of you know, managing triggers,
and it's more than just like you take medication and
like you're good to go. So I can totally understand
why maybe she was nervous sharing that with Grant. If
(23:04):
she has lost people in the past due to her epilepsy.
But yeah, like who are these who are these girls
and guys that are being like, oh, like you have epilepsy,
Like you're on your own girl, I'm out like good
knowing you, Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wow, it seems like a very particular disease to be.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Like, yeah, not this one, keep it, keep it far
away from me.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
No, I was like, whoa, that's that's she said. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I guess even things like like concerts, yeah, or any
any like you know, certain venues, sporting events or whatnot
that may trigger the epilepsy or trigger you know, for
her to have a seizure and then people get fed
up with that.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I think we will have her on the podcast at
some point, hopefully, so we can definitely dive more into
her experience with epilepsy, how it affects her on a
day to day basis. I think there's like we don't
know much about it obviously, and she is kind of
sounds like the person to share her experience and help
us understand it better.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
So jumping to the one on one that never happened,
Beverly We really liked her.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I remember from the headshots.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
We were like, oh, I feel like she's she could
be up there, or at least I did. She popped
for me, and all of a sudden she was gone,
no interview, no nothing, no goodbye, she was out.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well, luckily we're gonna have her on at the end
of this episode, so we'll get into why she left.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, So instead, what I'm assuming was the activity plan
for Beverly's one on one date they turned into a
group date. This would be challenging because not only did
he only take three girls, Like, it's only two people,
more than a one on one, one person more than
(24:52):
a two on one. It's it's the smallest group date
I've ever seen. Yeah, these are already girls.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
That have had a date that week.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
So it's basically saying like, these are the three girls
that Grant wants more time with. Like to me, if
I'm sitting at that house, I'm like, all right, so
those are his three favorite girls.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
For sure, they were all that, they were all on
the group dates.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
They were all in the first.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Group date, so it was like, you get a second
date this week. It was like a bonus prize. And
then Letia gets that night one on one, I'd be like,
all right, I'm out, well Latia post to her.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mean, after watching this episode, Letia looks like she
is leading the past.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I don't know if we've ever been so bang on
with a headshot prediction as we were with Letia. Yeah, truly, guys,
Like if you're listening, we did not know when we
do the headshots, like we don't know anything. So like
the fact that it's going this well, I mean, I've
impressed myself.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Lisa vander pumps on the date, I.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Know our second Bravo cameo, Eh, I'm kind of surprised.
So on this date we have Latia, Sarafina, and Dina.
He seems to have great connections with all of them.
It was a nice date to be able to kind
of see his relationships unfolding with these three girls because
they just you kind of got more time. And then
the night portion with Latia was at City Hall, which
I was originally like city Hall, like what? But it
(26:05):
was gorgeous and I like that she said the way
she teed up the conversation with him of I want
to hear more about your family life. I've heard a
little bit, but I want to hear it from you.
Just felt kind of very honest and like a warm
way to open the floor for him to share his
family dynamic in a safe space.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, it feels like they're taking steps forward. Yes, in
the relationship. They they're having like real conversations about their past,
their families, and that's usually like the first sign of like, Okay,
this is this is becoming a serious relationship out of
the group.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, my assumption would be he's not opening up and
diving into his family history in detail with every single
woman there. So to see him do that to the
extent that he did, and then you know, was so
engaged asking her meaningful questions about her family as well.
They got to FaceTime her mom, which I mean, having
(27:05):
been there like that just means everything to her. I
can only imagine, like I would literally have killed for
FaceTime with my mom while I was on the show.
So I thought that that was also very telling. Yeah,
I think that I think this relationship's going really far,
if not all the way.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I really really love her.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I think that they are a great fit from
what we've seen so far. We got the string quartet,
They do a little dancing.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, no, I agree, like there's nothing like yeah, like
I to me right now, if I were to say,
like who he has the strongest connection with or who
he likes the most, it's going to be Letia.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I think the fact that he had a group
date with her, chose her for this mini group date,
and then also chose her for the one on one
is a sign that he thinks she could be the
one Also thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then we we go back to the house. Granted,
so Carolina is now.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, like she she's spiraling.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's spiraling, and she's kind of making so far everything
about her.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
She does say, we see, well, Letia's on her date.
She says, I kind of wish that I didn't even
have that one on one date. Yeah, which is I
actually can understand what she's saying as someone who had
an early one on one on the season I was on.
It does make it harder in ways. But you just
(28:38):
don't say, like it was just a tone deaf comment.
You just don't say that to girls who have not
yet had a one on one date. And like, at
the end of the day, you're never going to sacrifice
your one on one day, even though it's made it
more challenging for you emotionally, or at least I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I don't think most people would.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I just hate when people go on this show and
act like they don't understand why the lead is also
into other people, Like what show do you think you're
fucking on? Like it's of course, of course, like you
have to go on the Bachelor or Bachelorette comfortable with
the person that you may fall in love with is
(29:17):
also falling in love and talking to other people. That
is what the show is. If the show was just
about a one on one relationship, then okay, then you
could be upset, but it's like you're not the only
one here.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, and on.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Top of it, like I get I get it more
when it's like there's four left and you're like, holy fuck,
I might actually get engaged to this person. Yes, and
this is really but when you are two weeks in
it just to me, it's like do you not do
you not know what show you're on?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, it's just kind of an indicator that this might
not be the right environment for her. It's just, you know,
it is challenging and it's not right for everyone and
I can see that she's really struggling and she's this
is not the first time we've seen that. Should we
dive into the her and Rose situation, We've got Carolina
(30:18):
totally freaking out. She has a Rose, but she's like
on the verge of sending herself home. She basically is
saying that Rose and hert sounds like they were, you know,
probably off camera pre bedtime comparing notes, which don't do
this if you guys ever go on the show, do
not compare notes with anyone. You know, you can gab away,
but like you're setting yourself up to potentially be hurt
(30:40):
or here's something you don't want to hear if you're
comparing notes with someone else, keep that shit private. So
anyway they compare notes. Rose says to Carolina that Grant
told her when Grant was dancing with Carolina, he was
actually thinking of Rose.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He was thinking of her.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Carolina's defense, If I heard that and I'm her that
that I understand that she's bringing you to because that
is kind of like, well, what the fought.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Well, I'm like, okay, so you don't like me, you
like me it definitely less than Rose. And even if
you do like me, you've disrespected me by saying that
to someone else here, Like I'm like, do I even
want to be with you if you're running your mouth
saying shit like that to other girls.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So in that, in that aspect, I do feel for
Carolina because that would be a hard that that is
a hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, I'm kind of with her on this one. I'm
kind of with her. I don't think you should you
should compare notes, but you know, they did what they did,
and I don't blame her for being really upset by
what she heard.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You know, I would be really upset to so she.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It tells Grant, Yeah, what do you think of the conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I mean, yeah, I feel like, like we were talking
about earlier, when you come with that that kind of
information that's about someone else, like, don't you sugarcoat it,
Just say who it is, because now he's guessing. It
was actually pretty funny how I just guessed there was Bailey.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
He guess Bailey right away.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I was like, okay, like I'm sorry to say this,
but Bailey, you're going home tonight, Like he he said
Bailey first, and like with confidence, and it was gonna
be her I was like, whoa, And.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm actually sad that she left because I liked her.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I know, But I do think his concern with Bailey,
based on his you know, conversation within the group date,
was she was maybe just a little bit too silly.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
He was looking for something a little more serious.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, but yeah, it was just kind of one of
those things. Okay, just just say it because you know
he's gonna find out. And then he finds out it's Rose.
Then he calls out Rose, and Rose admits that she
said it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, she said, like she's not deny it. She definitely
said that to Carolina. She says to Grant, I thought
that was something I heard you say, yeah, which her
response just made me be like, oh, you're you're not
coming in very hot here with a like you did
say this to me this time, this place. So it's like,
(33:01):
how sure were you that he said that to you?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Rose. I kind of feel, i mean feel bad for her.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
To watching it. I feel bad for her because I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Just like, and she was, she's been spiraling, she's been
having a hard time. I think she handled the conversation
with Grant as best she could, you know, like she
she apologized she owned her mistake, like there's not much else.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You biggest, My biggest question around all that is if
Grant did say that to Rose, why would Rose.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Say it's.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It's gonna make her feel bad?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And b it's because yeah, that's not just like a
sweet thing he said to her. That's something like he
blatantly said against Carolina.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And also it's private. It's also private information for you
to kind of know that you're pretty high up there.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
With the lead if he's saying that to you.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So yeah, so why are you even giving this information out?
Because this is this information privately is beneficial to you
and then if you give it out, all that's going
to do is hurt your chances.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
With them one hundred percent. She shouldn't have said it.
I feel like I feel like she was spiraling and.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I would like to see that conversation.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Well that's my thing.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Show us the tape.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Roll the tape. What did he say?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Did he say it or did he say some version
of it, or did he say something that could have
been taken differently? Like where's the miscommunication? Because the Carolina
and Rose conversation I'm going to assume happened off camera.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And Mike right, Yeah, but that I would like to
see that the rosing.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Obviously, I liked everything Rose and Grant's conversation is miked
on camera. It was on a date, So like, someone
roll the tape back and get me a clip and
aerin at tell all because we can actually fact check
this and find out find out what was really said,
you know, and I care.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I mean, he deny, He denied it with confidence.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, he didn't even know who she was talking about,
meaning like he wasn't even like, oh I said something
along those lines two rows. I know where this is going. Yeah,
but yeah, I want to know if he said it.
I want to know more about the comparing notes conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, and then let's really quick just touch on the
girls that went home.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, well the girls were really pissed.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Sounds like I feel like we're seeing like really condensed
versions of a lot of the drama the season. Obviously
for timing, that's how it has to go. But the
girls were like so many of the girls really get
cut into my time tonight, So it must have gone
on for a lot longer than what we saw in
terms of like people were like Carolina's talked to him
like ten times.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Bailey went home. I don't know why he sent her home.
Bailey went home, Chloe, Chloe went home.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I know I love her.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, she's I feel like she's.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Just like so cool, so elegant. I want to see
her in Paradise for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, she I liked her too.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
She seemed very dawn to earth. I think like she
could have a chance of finding love for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, She's definitely one of those people where when she
was giving interviews, it was she was.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Very like captiving, very natural on camera. Who else let's
see let me pull up our list, we said by
to Beverly obviously, Bailey, Chloe, and Ali Joe.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Ali Joe is.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I think we're gonna see her in Paradise because she's
got a real feisty personality. And yeah, we didn't get
to see a lot of her connection with Grant really all.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I think I think Ellie Joe's issue was there probably
just wasn't really a strong connection with her in the lead,
and when when you're when you're in that situation, it's
kind of what else am I supposed to do? Yeah,
and she probably just became involved in the drama. I
was like, well, let's give me something to do.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I don't really see it with her and Grant if
I'm being honest, and I see it more with Zoe
and Grant.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay, so let's uh, let's bring in Beverly because I
actually want to find out what happened with her.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Beverly. Welcome to Becheler Happy Hour. How are you.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I'm good. How are you guys? Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Of course, we're good.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Thanks for coming on. So let's just dive right into
the elephant in the room. You were there and then
you were gone.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, because I mean you you get an early one
on one, so it must have been serious for you
not to be able to go on that.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, so many emotions.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
So as you guys saw.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
The date card came and they said, whoever's name is
not on this day card, you're going on the one
on one. So it was a group date of twelve
and then the last two were going on a one
on one and Parisa and I were close in the house.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
She's sitting next to me.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
She's like, you're getting the one on one, You're getting
the one on one. I'm like there's no chance, like
there's no way, and they're reading name by name by
name by name, and mine's not being called and it
gets to the last name, and I'm like, oh my god,
oh my god, I really might be getting.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
The one on one and lo and behold it was
me and Carolina.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
And I was honestly so happy because I'm very close
with my family and I am very emotional and I
wasn't on the show, which is strange, but for some
reason that day, I woke up so sad, missing home,
missing my mom, my dad, and so getting the one
on one kind of like solidified like, Okay, I'm here
(38:29):
and it's for a good reason. And Grant sees and
feels what I'm seeing and feeling, and it was really
reassuring and nice. Like you said, Joe, getting a one
on one so early on, it's like kind of put
a target on your back and it's like, oh my god,
like you know, she might, she might him and current
Grant probably have a really good connection to get it
so early on. So I was honored.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, so what so, so okay, So then what happened? Yeah, yeah,
because I always see we're like wait a minute, and
then they're like, Okay, Beverly's gone. She's sick, Like, you know,
did you have the flu? Like what went down?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Yeah, no, I wish I had the flu.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
So the girls leave and I honestly was so excited
because I'm like, we're gonna have the whole day to ourselves.
I'm gonna get to eat, sleep, just relax, no drama.
And I take a nap and I wake up my
stomach's hurting. I'm like, okay, maybe she need to go
to the bathroom or like the food didn't sit well
(39:25):
and I start throwing up. I'm like, okay, maybe I
just need to get it out whatever. So my stomach
is continuing to hurt. I'm like an excruciating pain. I'm
continuing to throw up. It's like a mess. This goes
on for twelve hours.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
At this point, are you thinking, like I have food poisoning,
So I.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Have anxiety and like diagnose and everything, and sometimes my
panic attacks like cause me to puke, But like I
didn't feel anxious, if anything. I it was like I'm
living life. I'm getting a.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
One on one.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I'm in the house alone, like I have all this time,
So I knew something was not right.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
I was like, I know my body. I'm listening to
my body. Something is not okay. So I wasn't sure
if it was food poisoning.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
I thought maybe, and my whole stomach, my whole stomach
was hurting, so it's not like one side was hurting.
I didn't think it was like anything serious. I was like, okay,
maybe I'm just in really bad stomach pain. And at
this point, because I had gone so long throwing up,
I was like, this is probably why my stomach's hurting
even more, because now why I have nothing in my tummy.
(40:36):
So they ended up taking me to the hospital because
I was not okay.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
They gave me IV I was.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
There for three hours. They gave me morphine. The pain
finally went away, but I was like, what is wrong
with me?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So after three hours.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Of being in the er, the doctor came in and
he's like, you have appendicitis and you're going to need
emergency surgery.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Oh my no, yeah, yeah, I figured.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I know they didn't obviously say what it was on
the show, but we assumed it must have been something
really severe because had it just been you know, food
poisoning or a stomach or something, you know, they would
have maybe taken you and then brought you back and
just for it to be like you're gone for good, right, yeah,
like what happened?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (41:15):
And I again at that point, like still was not
really processing. Like again, I am a cryer, I am emotional,
did not cry one time. I was like, okay, like
my family isn't here, my friends are here, Like I'm
about to have.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Major surgery on an organ.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
I already in twenty eighteen got my gallbladder removed.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Now my appendix is being removed. I'm like losing organs
left and right. I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
And where do you? Where do you live?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I live in New York?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Okay? And then you have basically you're in California.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Right right?
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Yeah, They're like, you want to take anything else out
while we're at it? Like what else?
Speaker 6 (41:51):
I told the doctor, I'm like, if you want to
cut a little something while you're down there, I give
you full permission.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
But yeah, I called my parents. Obviously.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
My dad was like get on the next flight, like
half surgery here. I'm like I can't, Like my appendix
can explode mid flight, Like it was not safe for
me to fly.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
So yeah, I was really really sad.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Honestly, it took me like a month and a half
to like recover emotionally. Physically, obviously I was, you know, okay,
but emotionally I was not. You know, I left with
like the what if and like obviously like we were
building a connection.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
He saw and felt like exactly what I was seeing
and feeling.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
And I know, like they didn't show a lot of
our moments, but like we did have a lot of.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Cute little moments. No one, they never showed us kissing,
like we kiss you know, so not the first night.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I thought I was going home the first night because
I was one of the only girls that didn't get
a kiss. I'm like, oh my god, but yeah, I
was really sad, really really bummed out. And I didn't
get to say goodbye to him. I didn't get to
tell him what happened. So I was like, I hope
he didn't think that like I left just because.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You know, No, I'm sure they updated him like, hey,
your girl Beverly's in emergency surgery, she's not coming back.
How long was the recovery process before you were able
to fly home?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (43:12):
So surgery was on a wedd I got to sack
on a Tuesday. Surgery was Wednesday. My mom had a
fly in to pick me up on Thursday, and then
I went home Friday, So I literally like so quick, Yeah,
was there.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Any talks about potentially like having the surgery and then
going back on, like going back on the show, or
is like recovery time, like you need to like take
it easy for months.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
I wanted to stay on, but I think it was
best for me to just go home and recover. Also
because as you know, like eventually they start flying places,
so it wasn't safe or smart for me to like
fly as I'm recovering from a surgery, and as you
guys know, like you've been on the show, it's long days,
late nights, and like I was sad about leaving, But
(43:55):
once I got home and everything like settled in, I
was like, honestly, the best decision was for me to
come home and recover, because like it was a lot, like.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I took so much, so many things.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
With me, Like I was not going to be okay
flying with all those luggages, and it was just it
was better for me to come home.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
But like one hundred percent, I can't imagine like having
surgery and then you're flying like thirteen fourteen hour flights
you're on a time change. Filming like I can't like,
as you know, is really hard on your body already
when you're like healthy, and then god forbid you get
like an infection or something when you're in a different country,
Like I can totally understand just being like mom, take
(44:34):
me home.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Yeah, yeah, my mom came and she was really sweet.
My dad was like so sad, but you know, everything
happens for a reason. I was like, what are the
odds that my appendix will act up the day like
days before I get first of all on the show,
and then days before I get a one.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
On one, Like, what are the odds?
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I know this is a first for sure, horrible, horrible
experience for you.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Like Grit is not your person yeah okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
The universe is just trying to redirect you.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
And this makes sense too, that we don't really see
much of because you have a great personality and Grant
clearly likes you from the beginning, and like we don't
see much of you, but now.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
This all kind of like yeah makes sense.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
I know I'm sad because I'm like America didn't get
to really see me, like I'm silly and funny and goofy,
and like I obviously have a serious side to me
as well. But like, yeah, I was I was looking
forward to the one on one because I also, again,
like I said, I deal with anxiety, and like I
was obviously going to open up to Grant about that,
which is a really huge part of my life, and
like I wanted to see like what his reaction was
(45:37):
if it was something that he was able to like handle,
And so I was excited to finally get to like
open up more and for us to talk and you know,
on and one on one that's where you like really
really connect and you know, so it was really sad
that we didn't get that moment.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
But do you think, speaking of everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Uh, do you think that you would be interested in
doing Paradise if they asked you to? Because I feel
like we, you know, didn't get to see much of you,
but obviously there was a lot there and you kind
of got jipped from your experience.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Due to your health issues.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Yeah, one thousand percent, only because I feel like if
I would have made it further, probably wouldn't have considered Paradise.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
But because I like didn't make it that far.
Speaker 6 (46:18):
Yes, because I do want to get married, like that
is I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
I'm ready for kids and family.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
I've always been like a relationship type of girl, and
so that was like my intention going on the show.
So yeah, and obviously I'm Paradise. There's more options, you know,
you get to kind of like date around. So yeah,
I would definitely be interested.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Okay, well figures crossed for you. We would love to
see you there.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
I mean we don't get to make that decision whatsoever,
but you know, if they're listening, yeah, we would love to.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
See you there.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Yeah, obviously, like I am a fan of the show.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
So like watching Paradise, I see like how successful it
is obviously like the two of you, you know.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Yeah, I know I love Paradise too.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
I feel like it's a different vibe, Like it's more chill,
like I mean from what I've seen it, you know,
and everyone's just like mingling and you have options.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
It's not like as serious, but it is.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
So it's a different dynamic and like I'm excited if
I get the chance to go.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I have a good feeling. I think I don't think
this is the last we're going to be seeing interview.
But also I have no idea, so Beverly, thank you
so much for taking the time out of your day
and coming on Batchlor Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me. I hope you
get to see me again.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Absolutely, And to our listeners, thank you guys so much
for tuning in and make sure you download and subscribe.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, we have the one and only Grant Ellis on
later this week for a exclusive interview, so don't forget
to tune in. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here to recap
episode three of Grant season. And then at the end
of this episode, we are gonna be having Beverly on
for a quick chat because we see her departure in
this episode and we don't.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Really get a well, so we don't see her departure.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, we don't see her departure, but they say she's sick.
So we're gonna ask her a little more about what happened,
because it seemed like her and Grant could have potentially
went somewhere, considering he picked her as the other person
on the one on one day.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, I liked her, and I'm definitely looking forward to
just checking in on her health and finding out more
about what happened with that situation.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, okay, so let's uh, let's get into it, shall we.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Let's do it so we have You're gonna lead?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Sure, Okay, I was just letting you know, do you
want to lead?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want you to lead.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh okay, you're welcome to take it away. No, no, no, okay,
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm usually the one leading these these.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Recaps now Oh okay, I got all the detailed notes
going on my phone.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh okay, well maybe you can lead next week.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I just hope I don't kick it out of order.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know, it's not about it's not about leading, you know,
this is just a conversation, just a friendly, friendly convo.
So we have the first group date, and it's a
pretty large group date. We find out right away basically
everyone's going on it except for Beverly, who is going
to have the one on one day, and Carolina, and
(01:34):
it's kind of giving finance Bro grant. The whole theme
of the date is money, money, education, financial knowledge.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
They play they play that finance Bro song What you
didn't hear that? What's the song that like went viral
on tick.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Talk, the one that's like I'm looking for a man
in finance? Do they play that?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
No, way, I totally miss that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Really yeah yeah, which is so weird.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I feel like I'm usually pretty good about picking up
on like.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, that's well the way you said it, I was like, yeah,
they are you going to give a nod to the
fact that it was a song because the way you
said I was like, yeah, that's that's what we saw.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But no, yeah, Oh that's I wish I picked up
on that. That's fantastic that they use that song. Yeah,
And we have two guest judges guest hosts for the
State if you will. We have Hannah Berner, who is
a comedian and a former Bravo star on Summer House,
and then we have Daniel Lubetski who is from Shark Tank.
(02:35):
Both fantastic, but I mean we have to give the
gold star to Hannah Burner on the date. She really
took control and.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, she hosted it and it was she was very
She's very funny. We saw her do stand up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Live, Oh yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
She was great.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
She's funny, and I thought she did a really good job.
I like that she called herself out on like why
the fuck am I on a hosting a date about
finance when I'm a comedian, Like, no, it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Was I'm glad you called that out too, because when
they came out and I was like, okay, like this
dude from Shark Tank, yeah, you know, makes sense. And
then I was like, but how does Hannah Burner fit
on this date? But she really did a good job
of being like, I don't fit on this date. So
I'm gonna make this date fit.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
For me, and you could tell a lot of the
girls were fans of her, like definitely Bailey, who was
playing the game in a direction that Hannah Berner would
be like, yes, I'm choosing you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Bailey was working smarter, not harder on this date, Like
she knew who her audience was for these answers, and
it wasn't Daniel, you know, it was It was Hannah,
and hence why she ended up winning.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But what did you think about Parisa sitting next to Grant?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I mean, I feel like that situation because we've seen
a few of these classroom style dates. It's it kind
of happens every season. I personally like them. I think
they're fun and a fun dynamic, and every season it
feels like the chair next to the lead is both
extremely coveted and also like no one wants it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's like taboo.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know if you said when we were watching
it that you wouldn't take that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Seat, No, I probably wouldn't, but not for any reason
of like I think there's anything wrong with taking that seat.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I just think.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think there's a sense of nervousness around being like Ooh,
I'm going to take the seat next to the lead,
and then you're kind of putting yourself out there with Grant,
And then it's also like this pressure to make the
most of that moment when you're also doing like this
group activity. I think it's like a bit of a
blessing and a curse sitting in that spot. But I
think she was a good person to do it because
(04:44):
she has such a goofy personality and they clearly have
a lot of fun together that I think she would
be able to shine in that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, I like her. She's really growing on me.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
She's growing on me too.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
She definitely set a I didn't know how to read
her in the first episode with the PowerPoint and everything. Yeah,
and I just feel like she's continued on the streak
of being really goofy, and the fact that Grant is
totally into it makes it.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Even more fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, what did you think of Zoe on this date?
She definitely seemed to struggle. I feel like this is
not in common. There's usually one or two girls on
dates that are like major rule followers when it comes
to the rules of the activity and the rules of
the game. That they're playing, and Bailey was obviously like, look,
(05:31):
it's just fun.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like this is not that serious.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
We're not he doesn't actually care about if we know
what ATM stands for. And Zoe definitely was the opposite
of like you ask a question, I give you an answer,
and why aren't you guys giving proper answers.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think what we saw with Zoe is basically the
blueprint of how she's going to be the entire season.
I don't think it's ever going to change. I don't
think Zoe is ever going to be able to feel
comfortable on a group date or in a group setting
with these girls because they all have the same objective
and she's a very competitive person and just kind of
(06:09):
like when we when we interviewed her, and she seems
she seems fairly like analytical and just like gold driven.
And the goal right now is Grant, and I think
anything that prohibits her to get to her goal, it's
going to just totally throw her off. So like to me,
(06:30):
it's always someone that could have a could be on
a group date, have the most one on one time
with Grant, it go really well, and then the night
portion Grant doesn't like pull her first, and she's completely
in her head. And I think we're going to see
that the whole season with her. I mean, so far,
(06:51):
it's been kind of every episode.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think she's someone that's going to struggle. It was
a little ironic because she she was the person on
the last group date that we're like, was the one
bending the rules by like taking him up to the
roof and being like, oh, it's my turn to shoot,
but like the rules are there are no rules, Grant,
Let's go have someone on one time, And now she's
(07:16):
a rule follower. But I also think, you know, she's
an academic, she's a really smart cookie.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
She's good at schoolmart cookie.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
She's a smart cookie.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
She is, And I think she took this as like
a test that she could get an A plus on
when she needed to almost like integrate her mentality from
last week about like it's just a group date. It's
supposed to be fun. It's not that serious, like we're
all playing. Yeah, so yeah, I agree, she kind of
(07:48):
went one extreme to the other.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Do we want to jump straight to her night portion
with him? Because she this is when she kind of
breaks down and tells Grant like people are picking on her.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, let's jump to the night post closing out the day.
You know, Bailey wins the Grant Buck, she's kind of
rewarded for her creativity. I also think that Hannah Berner
should come back and host more dates. I think she's
actually like a perfect fit for hosting dates on this show.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I think she'd be a great host of.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
The entire franchise. Yeah, Hannah, you heard it here first.
All right, let's jump to the night portion. So Zoe
shares her vulnerability, shares her vulnerability. I don't think that
makes sense. She's Zoe's vulnerable with Grant about being uncomfortable
and out of her element. On the group date, Alie
(08:36):
Joe basically says this is the Bachelor, not the Zoe Show.
And I think that Ali Joe is someone that was
really fed up with her last week and is just
like still fed up with her.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, it seems like all the girls seem a little
fed up with her. And then we hear the comment
from Sarah Fina that's the shortest dress I've ever seen. Yeah,
which you were like that that's pretty mean.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, I thought it was pretty mean.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I I don't know, I don't find that. That mean, like,
I feel like if I was just put myself in
this situation, if I was on if I was on
the group date and I was kind of having a
hard time and kind of alienating myself and then like
(09:30):
somebody made a comment about my.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Suit, you would actually lose your mind?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Do you think so? Maybe? I just I don't think like,
out of all the things.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You don't like being criticized about your wardrobe, I just
think out of all the ways to be criticized, like
being like that's the shortest dress I ever seen, I.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Don't know if that's a big enough reason to like
bring that up to grant.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mean, do I think it's a I don't think
it was just about the comment. I get what you're saying.
I'm gonna like pull my girl card on this one
and say, like, I just think like, as a girl,
it's like a deeper thing than her just like criticizing
her wardrobe choice.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Sure, sure, clearly there's a group of girls right now
that that I don't want to say they don't like Zoe,
but they don't like vibe well with Zoey.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, yeah, the thing is is, I don't know, I
feel like I'm gonna be in the minority here. Maybe
it's because we just had her on for an interview
last week, but like I did feel kind of bad
for Zoe, and I feel like she shared how she
was feeling to the girls and just said like, I
had a really hard time today and was really vulnerable.
(10:46):
And I can kind of understand the girl's frustration because again,
it just seems like none of them are connecting with her.
She really centered herself on the last group date, and
they're probably putting their guards up of like, oh gosh,
like what is what is this going to lead to now?
Like we already had an entire group date surrounding around
drama with Zobe and are we now going to be
(11:06):
dealing with that again. But it's hard to watch someone
feel like an outsider and struggle emotionally and then watch
the girls kind of turn on her for that. Like
they could have just been like, hey, we're really sorry
that you felt that way in the mind of their business,
and it felt like they kind of, I don't know,
(11:28):
used it against her a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
That might be a strong word. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I personally, I just feel like Zoe, I agree, like
I don't think there's any reason, and I never think
it's a good look to like pick on someone or
be mean to someone. But in the women's defense in
this episode, Zoe is the competitive one. Yes, she's the
(11:58):
one bringing the competitive nature to the group. So when
you do do that, it's probably gonna be hard to
connect with the group of girls who don't think that.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Way, right, And I guess from their perspective, it's like
Zoe came in really hot and really competitive from like
night one with the T shirt canon and now it's
almost like I could see them taking it as like, well,
she's just being a sore loser, like the attention wasn't
on her. She didn't win this group date, she didn't thrive,
and like now she is crying about it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And also Zoe's having a hard time, but she asked
any of the other girls if they're having a hard time,
like are are those like? You know, the conversation goes
both ways, right, It's not always on someone to cater
to your needs, Like you should have the conversation if like,
if you're struggling, maybe go up to Sarah Fina and
(12:50):
be like how do you feel? Like are you struggling
as well, like you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Well that's so that's such a sweetye perspective.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Joe, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
How do do you feel about Zoe telling Grant about
it and Grant's response.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I'd like Zoe telling Grant just because we need a
little bit of something, you know, you need a little
bit of drama in the show, so like, yeah, bringing on. Yeah,
I thought Grant handled it really well.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I thought so too.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I was actually really impressed with his response, and I
thought he did a really good job comforting her.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He seems as of now, as of now, he seems
that he will tackle any issue head on, like immediately,
which is how like some I feel like I would
go about it like just like okay, well then like
instead of letting it like simmer and drag on for episodes, like,
(13:42):
he really tries to tackle what's going on in the moment.
So I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I like it too. I think he does a
good job of like not being like ah, like leave
me out of your shit, but then also not getting involved.
I feel like he handles it in a very like
clean direct way of like I don't tolerate this, like
cut it out kind of thing and also like making
(14:08):
the person that is feeling hurt comforted.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And I think him giving the group date rows to
Parisa should be a signed to all the other women
of like I'm like, let's have a little fun. Yeah,
like I want to have I want to like it's
one thing, like we do want to get married and
we want to take this serious. But I'm not gonna
be able to get to that level with you if
(14:33):
we're not going to have a little bit of fun
and like if you're the conversation you're having with Grant
are about other women or feeling uncomfortable and you know,
it's really early. Yeah, So I think good for Parsa.
She's the one. What were they eating.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They were like shoving rice crispy trace They were shoving
them in their mouth, which is honestly so funny.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
It was like be Bunny with rice crispies. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But I actually, yeah, I liked that she got the
group date Rose. I thought that was a surprising pick,
but a telling pick. I also am just like kind
of growing to be this fan of Preeza, so.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was excited for her.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
He did address the group and say I've heard some
rumors about people belittling and we have to be kind
to each other because Zoe obviously didn't give a name.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And we can talk about this more later because it
kind of comes up again as a theme this episode.
What do you think about when girls bring drama to
Grant and they don't give a name and then he
asks for a name, and they like, what do you
think you do if you're gonna bring drama to the lead, Like,
do you think you need to just be like this
is who did it? Or do you think you don't
give a name? If they ask, do you give the name?
(15:46):
Like it does get kind of confusing, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're they're half asking it. It's like if you wanna
if if you're gonna go and do this, then do.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It all you think you think? You like, come in
hot and say like so and so said.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
This to me, Yeah I or don't bring it to
his attention because you know he's gonna want to know
and he's gonna do his best to find out who
it is. So it's like either come with all the
facts or don't come at all.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Because then on one hand, it's like, but what if
you want to share the fact that you're having a
really hard time, but you don't want it to become
like war with the women in the house.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Then you could say I'm having a really hard time
and then if he's asked why, be like, I'm just
not really getting along with all the women.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
But she she directly called it a situation that was
targeted towards her, right, Yeah, and then didn't want to
give the name.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, And I think Carolina almost did the same thing.
I think she ended up saying Rose's name, yeah, Like
it took a while, Yeah, And it's just like, well,
I get I feel like it's one of those things
where I feel like they go in wanting to tell
Grant what went down, and then midway are like reversing
(17:04):
and they don't want to do it, and then they
get caught up and then like, now I'm in this situation. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, it's definitely something I feel like, I don't know
what my stance is on It can kind of depends
on the situation. But I did think it was interesting
that she didn't call it out. But then I think
it was Juliana who actually had a really cute chat
with Grant this episode.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Juliana called her out directly.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
She was like, okay, I think we can stop wasting
our breath. Like, Zoe, what did you say to Grant,
which like I appreciate, you know, like let's cut the bullshit,
Like you all know it was Zoe, you all know
what went down before you know the night started.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like let's just be direct here.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Zoe's response was I could chat whatever I want to
chat about.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I don't know what I was expecting, but that one
caught me off guard. I was like, okay, yes, like
you know, I guess you're right. You can chat with
him whatever you want to chat about. I wonder if
there was more conversation that went on after that comment.
I feel like there might have been that we didn't see.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I don't. I can't imagine that that closed out the conversation.
It was like a mic drop, let's all go to bed.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's it's hard to watch all of it, to be honest,
because you know so well. On one hand, I always
feel bad for the person that feels alone and it's
by themselves and feels like they're getting pushed around or
whatever the case may be. And then on the other hand,
it's like, well, you commit it to a social experiment
(18:29):
of a show with a group of people who are
all going through the same thing, So it's like you
also have to bend a little bit and play the
game because we're all here trying to do the same thing. Yeah,
and it just it's always just like this just never
goes well for any of the main participants involved.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
One hundred and I think it's evident.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I don't know if Zoe has experienced this throughout most
of her life or if this is strictly on this show,
but she's definitely struggling to connect to make friends with
the other women, and it might just boil down to
her specific personality is not the most conducive to this environment,
(19:15):
and that is going to make things really hard on her.
And it doesn't justify the girls being mean to her
in any way, but she might have to like put
in a little more effort than the average person because
you it's not going to make it any easier for
you if you can't have some friends in the house
that like you can rely on and they feel like
(19:37):
they can rely on you too, Yea. So it's yeah,
it's a bit of a messy situation. But okay, so
the next morning, literally everyone's crying. We've got like six
of them sobbing surrounding the house.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Seems I mean, I was like, this is a little ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It did feel ridiculous for sure, but I will I'll
make an assumption here that could be wrong. But watching
Alex just like cuttle up on the couch sobbing, it
was kind of giving a mix of like genuine stress
and like, you know, she seemed upset about the situation.
She expressed that, like they've really been trying to be
(20:16):
friends with Zoe and they have not been succeeding, so
like it's frustrating that they're getting pulled into this drama
with her when like there's not much more they can do,
which I thought was an interesting piece of insight into
what's going on in the house. But it was also
giving like she seemed really overtired, like that kind of
like I'm exhausted cry of like, you know, not try
(20:38):
to invalidate her feelings here, but I've been on the
show and like those first few weeks, it's a huge adjustment,
a new environment, new people, your high stress, high emotions,
and you're really not sleeping, Like I wanted to be
like all of y'all, you need to go back to
bed for three more hours or sneak in a nap
today because you know, emotions are flying wild. I think
I think a little, you know, mas those hierarchy of needs,
(21:01):
like we need sleep and food survive, like we need
a little extra sleep here to kind of get our
emotions in check, and all perspective on how dramatic the
situation actually is.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Whose hierarchy needs.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Maslow's.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Isn't that right, Maslow's hierarchy. Yeah, it's like a It's
like it's like the pyramid of like what a human
needs to survive from base level to like the most
important to the least important.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Nice, Okay, anyway, Okay, let's move on to Carolina's one
on one day we spent. We spent a lot of
time on that first date.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean I would say, just the date itself,
there's not much to really talk about. They jump off
of a building.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, which looked just absolutely horrifying and terrible, terrible and scary.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
But like I would pick that over skydiving or bunge of.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
They seem to be having fun. Yeah, I would say
the part to talk about is the night portion. Yeah,
she discloses that she she was very emotional, and she
disclosed that she had epilepsy and not everyone that has
been in her life has been kind about or I
wouldn't say kind about it, but have haven't.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Been able to be supportive her. Yeah, watching it, I was.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Maybe not confused, just like aware of how ignorant I
am to epilepsy, Like I really don't know anything about
it other than the fact that you're prone to seizures.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So I did you know?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Ask around well and am I am?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I head? I was just like, what kind of a
friend would no longer be your friend if you because.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You have epilepsy? No, I know that was what I
was wondering too.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But it does seem like I talked to someone about
it and they were saying, like, when you're in a
relationship with someone with epilepsy, like it is a team effort,
Like it does require a lot of you know, managing triggers,
and it's more than just like you take medication and
like you're good to go. So I can totally understand
why maybe she was nervous sharing that with Grant. If
(23:04):
she has lost people in the past due to her epilepsy.
But yeah, like who are these who are these girls
and guys that are being like, oh, like you have epilepsy,
Like you're on your own girl, I'm out like good
knowing you, Like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wow, it seems like a very particular disease to be.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Like, yeah, not this one, keep it, keep it far
away from me.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
No, I was like, whoa, that's that's she said. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I guess even things like like concerts, yeah, or any
any like you know, certain venues, sporting events or whatnot
that may trigger the epilepsy or trigger you know, for
her to have a seizure and then people get fed
up with that.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I think we will have her on the podcast at
some point, hopefully, so we can definitely dive more into
her experience with epilepsy, how it affects her on a
day to day basis. I think there's like we don't
know much about it obviously, and she is kind of
sounds like the person to share her experience and help
us understand it better.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
So jumping to the one on one that never happened,
Beverly We really liked her.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I remember from the headshots.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
We were like, oh, I feel like she's she could
be up there, or at least I did. She popped
for me, and all of a sudden she was gone,
no interview, no nothing, no goodbye, she was out.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well, luckily we're gonna have her on at the end
of this episode, so we'll get into why she left.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, So instead, what I'm assuming was the activity plan
for Beverly's one on one date they turned into a
group date. This would be challenging because not only did
he only take three girls, Like, it's only two people,
more than a one on one, one person more than
(24:52):
a two on one. It's it's the smallest group date
I've ever seen. Yeah, these are already girls.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
That have had a date that week.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
So it's basically saying like, these are the three girls
that Grant wants more time with. Like to me, if
I'm sitting at that house, I'm like, all right, so
those are his three favorite girls.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
For sure, they were all that, they were all on
the group dates.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
They were all in the first.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Group date, so it was like, you get a second
date this week. It was like a bonus prize. And
then Letia gets that night one on one, I'd be like,
all right, I'm out, well Latia post to her.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mean, after watching this episode, Letia looks like she
is leading the past.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I don't know if we've ever been so bang on
with a headshot prediction as we were with Letia. Yeah, truly, guys,
Like if you're listening, we did not know when we
do the headshots, like we don't know anything. So like
the fact that it's going this well, I mean, I've
impressed myself.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Lisa vander pumps on the date, I.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Know our second Bravo cameo, Eh, I'm kind of surprised.
So on this date we have Latia, Sarafina, and Dina.
He seems to have great connections with all of them.
It was a nice date to be able to kind
of see his relationships unfolding with these three girls because
they just you kind of got more time. And then
the night portion with Latia was at City Hall, which
I was originally like city Hall, like what? But it
(26:05):
was gorgeous and I like that she said the way
she teed up the conversation with him of I want
to hear more about your family life. I've heard a
little bit, but I want to hear it from you.
Just felt kind of very honest and like a warm
way to open the floor for him to share his
family dynamic in a safe space.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, it feels like they're taking steps forward. Yes, in
the relationship. They they're having like real conversations about their past,
their families, and that's usually like the first sign of like, Okay,
this is this is becoming a serious relationship out of
the group.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, my assumption would be he's not opening up and
diving into his family history in detail with every single
woman there. So to see him do that to the
extent that he did, and then you know, was so
engaged asking her meaningful questions about her family as well.
They got to FaceTime her mom, which I mean, having
(27:05):
been there like that just means everything to her. I
can only imagine, like I would literally have killed for
FaceTime with my mom while I was on the show.
So I thought that that was also very telling. Yeah,
I think that I think this relationship's going really far,
if not all the way.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I really really love her.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I think that they are a great fit from
what we've seen so far. We got the string quartet,
They do a little dancing.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, no, I agree, like there's nothing like yeah, like
I to me right now, if I were to say,
like who he has the strongest connection with or who
he likes the most, it's going to be Letia.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I think the fact that he had a group
date with her, chose her for this mini group date,
and then also chose her for the one on one
is a sign that he thinks she could be the
one Also thousand.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And then we we go back to the house. Granted,
so Carolina is now.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, like she she's spiraling.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's spiraling, and she's kind of making so far everything
about her.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
She does say, we see, well, Letia's on her date.
She says, I kind of wish that I didn't even
have that one on one date. Yeah, which is I
actually can understand what she's saying as someone who had
an early one on one on the season I was on.
It does make it harder in ways. But you just
(28:38):
don't say, like it was just a tone deaf comment.
You just don't say that to girls who have not
yet had a one on one date. And like, at
the end of the day, you're never going to sacrifice
your one on one day, even though it's made it
more challenging for you emotionally, or at least I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I don't think most people would.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I just hate when people go on this show and
act like they don't understand why the lead is also
into other people, Like what show do you think you're
fucking on? Like it's of course, of course, like you
have to go on the Bachelor or Bachelorette comfortable with
the person that you may fall in love with is
(29:17):
also falling in love and talking to other people. That
is what the show is. If the show was just
about a one on one relationship, then okay, then you
could be upset, but it's like you're not the only
one here.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, and on.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Top of it, like I get I get it more
when it's like there's four left and you're like, holy fuck,
I might actually get engaged to this person. Yes, and
this is really but when you are two weeks in
it just to me, it's like do you not do
you not know what show you're on?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, it's just kind of an indicator that this might
not be the right environment for her. It's just, you know,
it is challenging and it's not right for everyone and
I can see that she's really struggling and she's this
is not the first time we've seen that. Should we
dive into the her and Rose situation, We've got Carolina
(30:18):
totally freaking out. She has a Rose, but she's like
on the verge of sending herself home. She basically is
saying that Rose and hert sounds like they were, you know,
probably off camera pre bedtime comparing notes, which don't do
this if you guys ever go on the show, do
not compare notes with anyone. You know, you can gab away,
but like you're setting yourself up to potentially be hurt
(30:40):
or here's something you don't want to hear if you're
comparing notes with someone else, keep that shit private. So
anyway they compare notes. Rose says to Carolina that Grant
told her when Grant was dancing with Carolina, he was
actually thinking of Rose.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He was thinking of her.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Carolina's defense, If I heard that and I'm her that
that I understand that she's bringing you to because that
is kind of like, well, what the fought.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Well, I'm like, okay, so you don't like me, you
like me it definitely less than Rose. And even if
you do like me, you've disrespected me by saying that
to someone else here, Like I'm like, do I even
want to be with you if you're running your mouth
saying shit like that to other girls.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So in that, in that aspect, I do feel for
Carolina because that would be a hard that that is
a hard pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, I'm kind of with her on this one. I'm
kind of with her. I don't think you should you
should compare notes, but you know, they did what they did,
and I don't blame her for being really upset by
what she heard.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You know, I would be really upset to so she.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It tells Grant, Yeah, what do you think of the conversation?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I mean, yeah, I feel like, like we were talking
about earlier, when you come with that that kind of
information that's about someone else, like, don't you sugarcoat it,
Just say who it is, because now he's guessing. It
was actually pretty funny how I just guessed there was Bailey.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
He guess Bailey right away.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I was like, okay, like I'm sorry to say this,
but Bailey, you're going home tonight, Like he he said
Bailey first, and like with confidence, and it was gonna
be her I was like, whoa, And.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm actually sad that she left because I liked her.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I know, But I do think his concern with Bailey,
based on his you know, conversation within the group date,
was she was maybe just a little bit too silly.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
He was looking for something a little more serious.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, but yeah, it was just kind of one of
those things. Okay, just just say it because you know
he's gonna find out. And then he finds out it's Rose.
Then he calls out Rose, and Rose admits that she
said it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, she said, like she's not deny it. She definitely
said that to Carolina. She says to Grant, I thought
that was something I heard you say, yeah, which her
response just made me be like, oh, you're you're not
coming in very hot here with a like you did
say this to me this time, this place. So it's like,
(33:01):
how sure were you that he said that to you?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Rose. I kind of feel, i mean feel bad for her.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
To watching it. I feel bad for her because I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Just like, and she was, she's been spiraling, she's been
having a hard time. I think she handled the conversation
with Grant as best she could, you know, like she
she apologized she owned her mistake, like there's not much else.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You biggest, My biggest question around all that is if
Grant did say that to Rose, why would Rose.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Say it's.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It's gonna make her feel bad?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And b it's because yeah, that's not just like a
sweet thing he said to her. That's something like he
blatantly said against Carolina.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
And also it's private. It's also private information for you
to kind of know that you're pretty high up there.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
With the lead if he's saying that to you.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So yeah, so why are you even giving this information out?
Because this is this information privately is beneficial to you
and then if you give it out, all that's going
to do is hurt your chances.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
With them one hundred percent. She shouldn't have said it.
I feel like I feel like she was spiraling and.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I would like to see that conversation.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Well that's my thing.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Show us the tape.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Roll the tape. What did he say?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Did he say it or did he say some version
of it, or did he say something that could have
been taken differently? Like where's the miscommunication? Because the Carolina
and Rose conversation I'm going to assume happened off camera.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And Mike right, Yeah, but that I would like to
see that the rosing.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Obviously, I liked everything Rose and Grant's conversation is miked
on camera. It was on a date, So like, someone
roll the tape back and get me a clip and
aerin at tell all because we can actually fact check
this and find out find out what was really said,
you know, and I care.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I mean, he deny, He denied it with confidence.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, he didn't even know who she was talking about,
meaning like he wasn't even like, oh I said something
along those lines two rows. I know where this is going. Yeah,
but yeah, I want to know if he said it.
I want to know more about the comparing notes conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, and then let's really quick just touch on the
girls that went home.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, well the girls were really pissed.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Sounds like I feel like we're seeing like really condensed
versions of a lot of the drama the season. Obviously
for timing, that's how it has to go. But the
girls were like so many of the girls really get
cut into my time tonight, So it must have gone
on for a lot longer than what we saw in
terms of like people were like Carolina's talked to him
like ten times.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Bailey went home. I don't know why he sent her home.
Bailey went home, Chloe, Chloe went home.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I know I love her.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, she's I feel like she's.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Just like so cool, so elegant. I want to see
her in Paradise for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, she I liked her too.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
She seemed very dawn to earth. I think like she
could have a chance of finding love for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, She's definitely one of those people where when she
was giving interviews, it was she was.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Very like captiving, very natural on camera. Who else let's
see let me pull up our list, we said by
to Beverly obviously, Bailey, Chloe, and Ali Joe.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Ali Joe is.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I think we're gonna see her in Paradise because she's
got a real feisty personality. And yeah, we didn't get
to see a lot of her connection with Grant really all.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I think I think Ellie Joe's issue was there probably
just wasn't really a strong connection with her in the lead,
and when when you're when you're in that situation, it's
kind of what else am I supposed to do? Yeah,
and she probably just became involved in the drama. I
was like, well, let's give me something to do.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I don't really see it with her and Grant if
I'm being honest, and I see it more with Zoe
and Grant.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay, so let's uh, let's bring in Beverly because I
actually want to find out what happened with her.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Beverly. Welcome to Becheler Happy Hour. How are you.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I'm good. How are you guys? Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Of course, we're good.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Thanks for coming on. So let's just dive right into
the elephant in the room. You were there and then
you were gone.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, because I mean you you get an early one
on one, so it must have been serious for you
not to be able to go on that.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, so many emotions.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
So as you guys saw.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
The date card came and they said, whoever's name is
not on this day card, you're going on the one
on one. So it was a group date of twelve
and then the last two were going on a one
on one and Parisa and I were close in the house.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
She's sitting next to me.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
She's like, you're getting the one on one, You're getting
the one on one. I'm like there's no chance, like
there's no way, and they're reading name by name by
name by name, and mine's not being called and it
gets to the last name, and I'm like, oh my god,
oh my god, I really might be getting.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
The one on one and lo and behold it was
me and Carolina.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
And I was honestly so happy because I'm very close
with my family and I am very emotional and I
wasn't on the show, which is strange, but for some
reason that day, I woke up so sad, missing home,
missing my mom, my dad, and so getting the one
on one kind of like solidified like, Okay, I'm here
(38:29):
and it's for a good reason. And Grant sees and
feels what I'm seeing and feeling, and it was really
reassuring and nice. Like you said, Joe, getting a one
on one so early on, it's like kind of put
a target on your back and it's like, oh my god,
like you know, she might, she might him and current
Grant probably have a really good connection to get it
so early on. So I was honored.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, so what so, so okay, So then what happened? Yeah, yeah,
because I always see we're like wait a minute, and
then they're like, Okay, Beverly's gone. She's sick, Like, you know,
did you have the flu? Like what went down?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Yeah, no, I wish I had the flu.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
So the girls leave and I honestly was so excited
because I'm like, we're gonna have the whole day to ourselves.
I'm gonna get to eat, sleep, just relax, no drama.
And I take a nap and I wake up my
stomach's hurting. I'm like, okay, maybe she need to go
to the bathroom or like the food didn't sit well
(39:25):
and I start throwing up. I'm like, okay, maybe I
just need to get it out whatever. So my stomach
is continuing to hurt. I'm like an excruciating pain. I'm
continuing to throw up. It's like a mess. This goes
on for twelve hours.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
At this point, are you thinking, like I have food poisoning,
So I.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Have anxiety and like diagnose and everything, and sometimes my
panic attacks like cause me to puke, But like I
didn't feel anxious, if anything. I it was like I'm
living life. I'm getting a.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
One on one.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I'm in the house alone, like I have all this time,
So I knew something was not right.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
I was like, I know my body. I'm listening to
my body. Something is not okay. So I wasn't sure
if it was food poisoning.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
I thought maybe, and my whole stomach, my whole stomach
was hurting, so it's not like one side was hurting.
I didn't think it was like anything serious. I was like, okay,
maybe I'm just in really bad stomach pain. And at
this point, because I had gone so long throwing up,
I was like, this is probably why my stomach's hurting
even more, because now why I have nothing in my tummy.
(40:36):
So they ended up taking me to the hospital because
I was not okay.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
They gave me IV I was.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
There for three hours. They gave me morphine. The pain
finally went away, but I was like, what is wrong
with me?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So after three hours.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Of being in the er, the doctor came in and
he's like, you have appendicitis and you're going to need
emergency surgery.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Oh my no, yeah, yeah, I figured.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I know they didn't obviously say what it was on
the show, but we assumed it must have been something
really severe because had it just been you know, food
poisoning or a stomach or something, you know, they would
have maybe taken you and then brought you back and
just for it to be like you're gone for good, right, yeah,
like what happened?
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (41:15):
And I again at that point, like still was not
really processing. Like again, I am a cryer, I am emotional,
did not cry one time. I was like, okay, like
my family isn't here, my friends are here, Like I'm
about to have.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Major surgery on an organ.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
I already in twenty eighteen got my gallbladder removed.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Now my appendix is being removed. I'm like losing organs
left and right. I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
And where do you? Where do you live?
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I live in New York?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Okay? And then you have basically you're in California.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Right right?
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Yeah, They're like, you want to take anything else out
while we're at it? Like what else?
Speaker 6 (41:51):
I told the doctor, I'm like, if you want to
cut a little something while you're down there, I give
you full permission.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
But yeah, I called my parents. Obviously.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
My dad was like get on the next flight, like
half surgery here. I'm like I can't, Like my appendix
can explode mid flight, Like it was not safe for
me to fly.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
So yeah, I was really really sad.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Honestly, it took me like a month and a half
to like recover emotionally. Physically, obviously I was, you know, okay,
but emotionally I was not. You know, I left with
like the what if and like obviously like we were
building a connection.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
He saw and felt like exactly what I was seeing
and feeling.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
And I know, like they didn't show a lot of
our moments, but like we did have a lot of.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Cute little moments. No one, they never showed us kissing,
like we kiss you know, so not the first night.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I thought I was going home the first night because
I was one of the only girls that didn't get
a kiss. I'm like, oh my god, but yeah, I
was really sad, really really bummed out. And I didn't
get to say goodbye to him. I didn't get to
tell him what happened. So I was like, I hope
he didn't think that like I left just because.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
You know, No, I'm sure they updated him like, hey,
your girl Beverly's in emergency surgery, she's not coming back.
How long was the recovery process before you were able
to fly home?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (43:12):
So surgery was on a wedd I got to sack
on a Tuesday. Surgery was Wednesday. My mom had a
fly in to pick me up on Thursday, and then
I went home Friday, So I literally like so quick, Yeah,
was there.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Any talks about potentially like having the surgery and then
going back on, like going back on the show, or
is like recovery time, like you need to like take
it easy for months.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
I wanted to stay on, but I think it was
best for me to just go home and recover. Also
because as you know, like eventually they start flying places,
so it wasn't safe or smart for me to like
fly as I'm recovering from a surgery, and as you
guys know, like you've been on the show, it's long days,
late nights, and like I was sad about leaving, But
(43:55):
once I got home and everything like settled in, I
was like, honestly, the best decision was for me to
come home and recover, because like it was a lot, like.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I took so much, so many things.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
With me, Like I was not going to be okay
flying with all those luggages, and it was just it
was better for me to come home.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
But like one hundred percent, I can't imagine like having
surgery and then you're flying like thirteen fourteen hour flights
you're on a time change. Filming like I can't like,
as you know, is really hard on your body already
when you're like healthy, and then god forbid you get
like an infection or something when you're in a different country,
Like I can totally understand just being like mom, take
(44:34):
me home.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Yeah, yeah, my mom came and she was really sweet.
My dad was like so sad, but you know, everything
happens for a reason. I was like, what are the
odds that my appendix will act up the day like
days before I get first of all on the show,
and then days before I get a one.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
On one, Like, what are the odds?
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I know this is a first for sure, horrible, horrible
experience for you.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Like Grit is not your person yeah okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
The universe is just trying to redirect you.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
And this makes sense too, that we don't really see
much of because you have a great personality and Grant
clearly likes you from the beginning, and like we don't
see much of you, but now.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
This all kind of like yeah makes sense.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
I know I'm sad because I'm like America didn't get
to really see me, like I'm silly and funny and goofy,
and like I obviously have a serious side to me
as well. But like, yeah, I was I was looking
forward to the one on one because I also, again,
like I said, I deal with anxiety, and like I
was obviously going to open up to Grant about that,
which is a really huge part of my life, and
like I wanted to see like what his reaction was
(45:37):
if it was something that he was able to like handle,
And so I was excited to finally get to like
open up more and for us to talk and you know,
on and one on one that's where you like really
really connect and you know, so it was really sad
that we didn't get that moment.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
But do you think, speaking of everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Uh, do you think that you would be interested in
doing Paradise if they asked you to? Because I feel
like we, you know, didn't get to see much of you,
but obviously there was a lot there and you kind
of got jipped from your experience.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Due to your health issues.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Yeah, one thousand percent, only because I feel like if
I would have made it further, probably wouldn't have considered Paradise.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
But because I like didn't make it that far.
Speaker 6 (46:18):
Yes, because I do want to get married, like that
is I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
I'm ready for kids and family.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
I've always been like a relationship type of girl, and
so that was like my intention going on the show.
So yeah, and obviously I'm Paradise. There's more options, you know,
you get to kind of like date around. So yeah,
I would definitely be interested.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Okay, well figures crossed for you. We would love to
see you there.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
I mean we don't get to make that decision whatsoever,
but you know, if they're listening, yeah, we would love to.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
See you there.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Yeah, obviously, like I am a fan of the show.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
So like watching Paradise, I see like how successful it
is obviously like the two of you, you know.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Yeah, I know I love Paradise too.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
I feel like it's a different vibe, Like it's more chill,
like I mean from what I've seen it, you know,
and everyone's just like mingling and you have options.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
It's not like as serious, but it is.
Speaker 6 (47:07):
So it's a different dynamic and like I'm excited if
I get the chance to go.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I have a good feeling. I think I don't think
this is the last we're going to be seeing interview.
But also I have no idea, so Beverly, thank you
so much for taking the time out of your day
and coming on Batchlor Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me. I hope you
get to see me again.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Absolutely, And to our listeners, thank you guys so much
for tuning in and make sure you download and subscribe.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, we have the one and only Grant Ellis on
later this week for a exclusive interview, so don't forget
to tune in. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Bye,
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