April 30, 2024 • 39 mins
Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” we’re catching up with the one and only Kylee Russell! After taking some time to heal from her “Paradise” breakup, Kylee is back on “Happy Hour” to fill us in on the past few months.
From moving to San Diego to healing from heartbreak and her current status with Aven, we’re getting into it all. Tune in now to get the 411 on all things Kylee, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we are here with Kylie Russell from last season
A Bachelor in Paradise and from Kylie, who is your
bachelor Zach?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, he's in twenty seven. I'm a Bacheler. What's Zach.
It's nice to let's see you guys again and be
back Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
It's so funny because we had Tyler Cameron a few
weeks ago and we're like, oh, like, you've never been
on the podcast, so crazy, and then this week I
was like, I think Kylie's been on like three times,
like she's like a regular here.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is my third time and I love this space.
I always feel so welcomed and very energetic platforms beyond,
so I'm excited to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We love having y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
When I hear your name, I think of one thing
and you said it up. You said it on our podcast,
and that's what I This is how I associate you. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do you know what they are on Happy Hour?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I think you said it on Clickbait already. It's if
you do. It's something that you do that I.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Drink Mountain do And yes, I really got off that
podcast and I was like, why did you just word vomit?
Like are you good? Because although I do that, I
don't want the world to know. But I live in
California now and I feel like I have to be
like a healthy queen. I guess. So we've done out
back on that and do and we only drink that
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ever so often.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Really instead of waking up and having a coffee, I'll
wake up and have a glass.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Keep a Mountain Dew at her nightstand and wake up.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The first thing, you know what though, So that is
crazy Kylie like it is. But at the same time,
there's people that are like crazy, crazy diet coke drinkers,
and I feel like it's kind of similar. I mean,
Anna Redmond is like obsessed with mountain dew. Also, I
think they like sent her a bunch of I don't
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feel so wone now there's a community of you guys
out there drinking Mountaindale.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Less embarrassed now. But yeah, like I said, I've tried
to kind of put my health at my forefront and
be a little bit better. But I think I will
if mountain dew is what kills me, at least I'll
die happy. I guess you.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Know what everyone has like their thing, you know, like
Joe loves Pinkberry and.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Like, okay, I actually don't. I'm actually I'm over Pinkberry.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Is no longer ordering Pinkberry every night after But if
I were, if I were to do a pop, if
I were to drink a pop, my go to is
a coke.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I love a good king. It's a toss up
Coke Coker Mountain dew for me. But mon deu is there?
My heart lives.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Do you drink coffee?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No? And I'm a nurse, so I work long, twelve
hour shifts and not being a coffee drinker will be
the death of me, just because I'm so physically tired
all the time. And it would be so nice to
have like that espresso boost. But it's just my tastebuds
are really picky. I'm twenty six, and I have the
tastebuds of like like a six year old child. So
I'm hoping one day I'll wake up and they'll be
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like evolved, but unfortunately does not yet happen, So no
coffee for me. I want to like Starbucks. I want
to walk in with like my cute scrubs and my latte.
But it just will never be me unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's all right, that's so funny to me. I like,
so you're like a chicken fingers and fries girl.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, I think too. That's why when you
were traveling for Zach season at the Bachelor, one of
the things put being on TV and like the emotions
of like falling in love aside, Like, one of my
biggest struggles was finding things on the menu in the
different countries that I liked. It was a struggle and
probably a red flag. But if they don't have chicken
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fingers and fries, like I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What's the most adventurous food you've you've dabbled in?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, so I my junior year of college, I went
to Spain for two weeks and Spanish food is very interesting.
I thought. So in the South, we love a good
hush puppy, and for whatever reason, I thought I was
eating a hush puppy in Spain. It definitely wasn't a hushpuppiy.
It was. I'd bit into it. It looked just like
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one and cuet. Yeah, probably, and it was not. I
was very surprised that it was not what I was expecting,
so I think that I think the Spanish food in
Spain really was out there for me. I ended up
finding an American diner in like the pit of Barcelona,
and I ate there like every other day, just because
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I want to be so cultured, like I really do.
But my taste bluds just hate me basically.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But you know what, like, if you're trying things, that's
all you can do. You know what I mean exactly,
you don't like them, you don't like them. I feel
like it's just out of your control, like what foods
taste good to and what don't.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Thank you, Serene, thank you for having me b And
it's like you said, it's not like lack of effort.
I always put my best friend forward. It's just my
body rejects me. So they know I'm always advocate.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I feel like I used to be judgmental of picky eaters,
but then I'm like, when you think about it, it's like,
if you're not willing to try different foods, like that
is an issue. I think I think you should always
be open to, like trying different cultures foods, but if
you're trying them and they don't taste good to you,
Like you can't do anything about that, like if you
don't like them. Oh, I'm just a girl, yeah, like
the just who wants chicken fingers.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I have a friend that I was just in Forida
with and he he will only eat like a cheeseburger
well done with catchup and like cheetos and like that's
all he'll eat. But we have to pivot.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So you you're from Charlotte, yes, and you are living
wear in California.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, you're in San Diego right.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yes, I'm one of the basic Bachelor nations and that
moved to California, San Diego specifically after being on a season.
I'm actually in my apartment with I love with Jess
Gerard from my season of Paradise a ZAC season. She's
in the room beside me. She's a work from homegirly.
So my god, Hi Jack, Yeah, hey Jess, if you
can hear us. But yeah, no, I have loved it.
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I've been here. I moved here in mid February, so
it's almost been two months, which is insane how fast
time it's grown. It's taken some adjustment because it's so
much different than the East Coast. But I really do
love it.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
What do you think it is that pulls so many
people from Bachelor Nation to go live in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Like, was it on your radar before?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was it just like all of your friends were moving there,
you thought it would be fine? Like it's the whole
San Diego Bachelor Nation thing is so interesting to me
because there's literally so many of them there.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah. So I honestly, for myself, if you would have
told me prior to going on The Bachelor that I
would ever move out of Charlotte, I would be like,
you're insane. There's no way. I went to college there.
I loved ten minutes from my parents after being out
of my parents' house, Like, Charlotte was my home, it
was my community, and I loved it there. And so
I think The Bachelor and especially Paradise provided so much
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growth for me and allowed me to really become independent.
And then so that kind of sparked my interest of
wanting to get out of Charlotte and explore and experience
new cities. And then everyone for my season, I know,
Kat lives here now, Genevieve Mayo and then Anastasia and
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they kind of just picked up and came here and
so Jess and I were like, why not us? So
I think it was just it was never specifically San Diego.
For me, it was I want to experience a new city,
and all my friends just so happened to go to
San Diego. So that's why I chose it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
That makes sense because it's like it's an easy adventure,
but it also feels safe probably to be like, I
want to try something new, but I don't want to
be like isolated and alone.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And you know that you're going to have kind of
a beautiful too.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah. I mean it's not a hard place to live
at all. And exactly like you're saying, Serene, I did
become very independent on the Bachelor, but I don't think
power to the people who can pick up a move
and know no one. But unfortunately that's just not something
I probably would ever be comfortable with. So it's that
comfort blanket of having my friends here while exploring a
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beautiful inner city. You guys should come and visit.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I've actually never been to San Diego.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I knew that.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I think you've been twice, Yeah, twice.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I think I would love to go.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's just like we live in New York and it's
like a bit of a mission to get out there.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, it's far. It's like a six hour flight from
North Carolina, so I feel like it may be a
little further for good. I'm very geographically challenged, so I'm
not exactly sure. But New York was actually on the list.
I know Davia and we are both live in New York,
and so I was like pulled in either that action
or San Diego. But I hate the cold, and unfortunately,
(09:04):
you guys' winters are brutal, so I'm going to stay
over here where I can go to the beach.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Basically, So what is what is a regular weekend for
you guys? Are you all getting together all the time?
What's that looking like?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah? So I think because we have the comfort of
each other, we find ourselves migrating to one another. We
like to experience any new restaurants. We like to go
to the local bars. There's two separate kind of like
fields of San Diego. You have Pacific Beach, which is
like your beachy bars, kind of gives like a college vibe.
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And I swear Jessica is obsessed with peb like she'd
probably be buried there as she could, so she often
drags us to PB or there's like the little Italy area.
I would say it's like similar to New York vibes,
kind of like your older men women kind of just
like by very low key and subtle. So I guess
(10:03):
it just depends on how we wake up that Saturday
and what we're feeling. But if it's up to Jess,
peb is where it will be.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Where it is at And then during the week, what
is your life like?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You were an urn right, yes, in Charlotte?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Okay, I was. Yeah, I was honestly really weird because
I had been talking about moving since like September of
last year, and I worked in postpartum, so right after
a mom and baby delivers and labor delivery, they come
to my unit and I take care of them for
the next couple of days. And it's a very specialized field,
and once you're there, no one really wants to leave
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because it's an amazing place to work. Long story short,
I could not find a gig anywhere in San Diego.
It was almost impossible, and so I'd kind of just
given up. I was going to work at a med
spa here already like accepted the offer, was ready to go.
And then the day I moved out, I found a position.
Day I moved out of Charlotte, I found a postpartum
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position at a hospital here, and I like interviewed on
a whim. Literally within an hour later, I had an
offer letter, and then two hours later I was on
a plane to San Diego. So it was like everything
had just fallen into place. I was so like genuinely
excited about my work and when I was coming to so, yeah,
I'm a post part of Meiers here in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It mustage just felt like truly the stars were aligning
for you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Literally, because I think I was obviously excited about moving,
but my job was kind of holding back that excitement
because it just it wasn't where I felt like I
was drawn to. And so that aligning literally was like, Okay,
I'm supposed to be going here. I'm supposed to be here,
and it's going to be a good experience.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Nice. What what are you? What are your what are
your shifts? Like? What shifts do you work?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I am a unicorn and I was able to get
not only a new job, but I was able to
get day shifts. So I work I go in about
and that's really rare, especially if you're starting out on
a new unit. You're typically always nights and then you
have to work through what your way up to days.
So I get into the hospital around like six forty
five in the morning and then I don't ever really
leave until about seven forty five at night. So it's
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so long day once I'm there. But I only typically
work three to four days a week, so I have
some days of rest like today in between, so it
makes it, it makes it worth it nice.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's uh, yeah, that's not bad. Then I never know
because like sometimes I hear like you'all hear like nurses
that work around the clock every day and then you
have like there's all different hours, so I was curious
about that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I empowered to them. I can agree that I was
off of work for like two and a half months
and so my body was used to just being lazy,
and then I go into my first whole hour shifts
being back, and I felt like I had just died
and got back to life. So I'm slowly but surely adjusted.
But it's very hard on your body, but a really
rewarding job.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, I feel like that's such a special unit to
work in because you're kind of seeing people hopefully and
like their happiest time with their news.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah yeah, but also like stressful because it's like if.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
They're not getting any sleep, the babies wanting to feed
all night, the babies crying. No, it's literally so rewarding.
I feel like there's a lot of education that comes
into my job of just like helping especially a new
mom transition into motherhood. I will say, like ninety eight
percent of the time, like you said, it's one of
the happiest moments of their life. I do occasionally get
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some baby daddy drama that's always kind of interesting to see.
But yes, yes, I like sometimes I like, am I
working on Jerry Springer? Or like, am I in the
hospital right now? But putting that aside, it's very refreshing
and something I love to do.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I could totally see you in that role. If I
ever have a baby, I'll be like, Kylie, what do
I do?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'll fly out to New York and I'll do all
of the most part tricks I got you.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Thank you all right? So I want to get into
your dating life, but before we do, let me kind
of summarize for everyone what went down, Yes, with your
season of Paradise. So essentially, you're on Paradise, you and
Avon leave kind of like you wishy washy, but like
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you're kind of in a you're you're somewhat of a couple.
Then after the show airs, you guys post that you're
together in San Diego, and then like twenty four hours later,
you post a story or you might have posted in
and feed that he cheated on you, and you guys
are broken up. And that's kind of the last of
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what I know, and I think most of the viewers know.
I know you went and did file files, so I'm
sure you talked a little more on that, but yeah,
you want to catch us up.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, so that time period of my life was a whirlwind.
Just like you said, I left with Avon on the show.
It didn't really look like we were happy. We just
had some we had indifferences about kind of our ending
when it came to the show, but we still decided
to leave with each other as like boyfriend girlfriend. We
I think it was like a six month time period
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in between filming and the very end of the show.
We were a strong couple, as strong as we could be.
Because we were doing long distance. I had not yet
moved to San Diego. I was still in Charlotte, he
was here, and then we would make it a point
to try to see each other at least once per month,
and we did a really good job with that. And
then unfortunately I did find out that news, and it
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kind of felt like everything was just like stripped away
from me and I was having to start from scratch.
I haven't I'm not really seasoned when it comes to
being in relationships. Aside from Avan, I only had one
other boyfriend and that was six years ago. So obviously
I've talked to guys, I've dated around, but never really
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been serious with anyone other than those two men, and
so I've never been cheated on before. This was the
first time. So having that happened to you was already
like a gut punch, but then having to deal with
it on such a public platform that was like, I
can't even put into words how devastating that was. And
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then I felt like I had to answer to so
many people because in one breath I was posting that
you were together, and then we were happy, and everyone
was texting me congratulations, and then all of a sudden
I find this out and I'm like feeling I have
to lie to people saying thank you, and we're not
together anymore. So long story short, I am in a
place where I've completely moved past the emotions of finding
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something like that out. I'm trying to be I feel
like it was a sense, to be very honest with you,
It's kind of like I had the human emotion of
like feeling insecure about myself there for a little bit
because I'm like, well, if he chose to do this
to me, then there's obviously I'm not enough or there's
obviously something wrong with me, and I know that's not
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the case whatsoever, But it was just that human emotion
of like, Okay, is there something I need to do better.
I have now since grown from that and realized that
that's not necessarily the case. It was just a character
flaw on his end. But it's really just putting the
pieces back together just because I did. We were in
such a strong place where at the end of it
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that I thought that he was my future, in my
forever and being having that stripped away from me completely,
so suddenly I was like, Okay, I got to start over,
and I will say, I'm not gonna lie moving to
San Diego. He was a big part of that prior
to all of this happening. So I had to decide
one if I was going to continue to move, if
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I was going to ever even be willing to speak
to him again, Like there were so many different things.
So that was like my life was a whirlwind in
December and January, and then I decided to move here
solely for myself. I wanted to prove to myself that
I am independent, that I can finally cut the umbilical
cord from my family and I can do big things
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without them, And then I wanted to experience this with
my friends. I think right now, speaking on dating, I
am not in a position to be dating anyone. I
think that circumstance really just like took everything out of
me and I can't find it in me right now.
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I know it will eventually come to give myself like
that to someone else again, So I think it's just
all about time and allowing myself to fully heal before
I jump back into something.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
What was that feeling like then moving to San Diego? Obviously,
like you have your girls there, you have friends, but
like he lives there right right, So you know, I'm
now moving to the city where my ex I don't
know exactly like how you're referring to him label wise
at that time, but like my ex is living there,
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and like, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You have mutual friends in the city.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like, was there anxiety had you talked to him like, Hey,
I'm coming into town, we might run into each other?
Like what was that dynamic like, and how are you
feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So I was definitely very anxious. I would be lying
if I said that, even and I still were in
somewhat of communication, so he knew that I was moving.
I think he was very anxious too, just because obviously
he was in a like a place, in a space
where he wanted to get back together, but he wanted
to give me time to heal as well. As he's
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been very mature in all of this. He's wanting to
heal and become a better person himself before he even
jumps back into anything, So he wanted I think we
were both scared because we wanted to allow each other
their space to grow separately before because you know, you're
in a new city, that comfortability of having someone that
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you were once so close to can easily draw you
to them, but it wasn't. We didn't want it to
be a situation where we just like, because it was comfortable,
we just jumped back in. And that wasn't even something
that I was considering at the point, but knew it
could be a possibility because it would have been easy.
So I think I was definitely very anxious, but we
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had grown conversations where we were like, we just need
to take this time apart and give each other space.
I don't I should, a normal human should, but I
don't harbor any like resentment towards Avan. I was very
angry with him, especially with what he had done, but
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I just try. I know I can't continue to grow
and I can't move forward if I don't find it,
and need to hopefully one day fully forgive him because
it's just not allowing me to fully, fully move past
that and fully be a better version of myself. So
it's its not It's probably been one of the hardest
things I've ever had to navigate in my life, and
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I'm just trying to do it grace as gracefully as
I can and as responsible as I can, and just
truly look out for myself because at the end of
the day, I think I need to put myself above
everything when it comes to that situation.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, and you say, you know, it's not a normal
way to handle it, but I really don't think there's
any normal way to handle infidelity. I think, you know,
I've been exposed to people in my life experiencing that
in relationships, and like everyone handles it differently, Every situation
is different, so you know, don't be too hard on yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Thank you. It's been really it has. It has taken
a toll, especially in my mental health. But I've been
going to therapy. We love therapy, and just really trying
to move forward and build a life for myself separately
out here. I want my own identity out here, I
want my own friends, and I don't want to fall
into that negative space.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I don't think there's anything wrong with forgiving him,
especially because I think that's that's better on your own
mental health when you do forgive someone an opposed to
at least for speaking for myself opposed to holding a grudge,
because I feel like that negativity will just like linger
with inside you, and that's I feel like that's not good. Yeah, absolutely,
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as of as of today, do you still speak to Even?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I knew you guys were going to get into the
integrity of things.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Well you said.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No, it's okay, It's okay, So I will say Even
and I are really good friends at this point. I
have just been trying to navigate because I've only been
here in like two months. I recently started my new
job two weeks ago, so I've been trying to navigate.
Thank you being here working and like I said, building
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a life for myself out here separately. So we're very
good friends. We still catch up. I'm still kind of
encouraging him on his journey of healing, just as I did.
And I know he kind of brought it upon himself.
He did receive a lot of hate in regards to this,
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and that took a big toll on his mental health.
So just kind of healing from that. But like I said,
I'm not in a space right now to fully comment
myself in a relationship with anyone, even included, So I
think we're both just working on ourselves before we decide
how we would move forward, if that would even be
a thing, or how we would grow in our separate ways.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Have you guys seen each other in person, I feel
like it would be impossible to avoid each other.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, so we have seen each other in person. The
first interaction I kind of like took my like it
was it was a shock, just because I hadn't seen
him in so long prior to everything happening. Everything is
very cordial, if I think that's the best word to
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put it. It's such a tricky space to navigate because
I know my worth, I know what I deserve, and
so I'm trying not to sacrifice any of that for anyone.
So if there was ever even like a possibility or
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a chance for us to get back together, he would
have to completely work on himself and I would have
to know in my heart of hearts like he is
a changed person. So I just yeah, yeah, it's just
a lot. It's a lot to process, and I think
I talked about this on next podcast, But for me,
it was really hard because I I don't think I'd
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ever truly loved anyone prior to even so I had
given so much in myself and invested so much in
our relationship that's very hard just to like walk away
from immediately in the drop of the hat. So I've
just been really trying to give myself grace but realize
who I am, what I deserve, and kind of just
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hold that to the upmost standard.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, So what I'm hearing is the door is still
open if the conditions were right and the work had
been done.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Had been done. Yes, And I don't know how long
that will take. We could both be in a place
where we've moved on, we've moved forward before that could happen.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is my
main focus right now is not dating. My main focus
is Kylie and building my career. I'm starting nurse practitioners
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school in August. I just moved to a big city. Like,
there's so many exciting things happening for me that I'm
not trying to dwell or put my energy into a
relationship right now.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
You I know you're saying you're not you're not ready
to fully date. But if let's say you went out
with your girlfriends and you're at a bar and you
meet a guy and you're like really into him, are
you willing to go on?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are you willing to go on a date and see
where things go?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't. I don't think it would be responsible for
me to do so right now, just because it wouldn't
be It wouldn't be fair to the other person because
I in that moment, you know, like lust and desire,
I could potentially feel ready, but I know in my heart,
like one, oh, part of it still belongs to my
relationship with Aban, and I'm trying to recover and heal
(26:46):
from that and like move on from that because I
know it's already April. But like I said, I was
so blindsided by all of this.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, and there's no timeline.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There's no timeline, and trust me, it would be so easy.
My life would be so much better if I could
have just woken up the next day after I found
out now about it and was like, if him, screw him,
I never want to see him again because then I
could just like wipe my hands clean and moved on.
But unfortunately that just hasn't been my healing journey. So
I don't think it would be fair to the other
(27:17):
person if I put myself off there right now. Could
that change next week? Absolutely, But I just I just
need the time and space to grow, and I'm typically old.
Kylie would be like, oh, absolutely, because it could kind
of just feel fill avoid at that point. But I'm
really trying to be mature and grow, so I think
(27:37):
for myself right now, what's best for me. I just
need to focus on me.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
If Paradise was a thing and you were in a
place where you.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Felt ready to date, would you go back?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
So I think when it comes to Paradise, I would
have to the door between Ave and I would have
to be closed. And then again, I don't know if
America wants to see me crying every other day of
the week again, So you would probably have to ask
America if they're not that avoid with see me, then maybe,
(28:16):
But honestly, I don't know. I loved Paradise so much,
Like when Jesse came down the stairs and told us
that it was over, like I wanted to cry because
I was so upset, Like no, I'm like Kinnesas forever.
But the aftermath of Paradise really took a toll on me,
not just in regards to like the ave and stuff,
(28:38):
but I did receive a lot of hate. So I
just don't know if I would want to put myself
back out there again. But if America would promise to
be kind, I don't know. It would just have to
be the right time. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's hard, that's fair saying.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, like absolutely no,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
But it's okay to say, like based on what I
went through, Like if they were like no right now,
it's okay, Like we will hold you to it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
If in a year they asked you and you decide
to go, we won't hold you to that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Okay, Okay, okay, thanks three.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So you're really not ready to date, go on another
dating show, or do anything until the door is fully
closed with AVA or fully open and the door is
not the door is not fully closed.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, I don't think it would be fair for me
to put myself out there in that way if the
door was somewhat open with anyone. So, yeah, to be
respectful to all parties.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yes, you're right, I'm going to ask you one more question.
Then we're going to play a game.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Thanks not to not not at all to excuse even
of his actions, because I think he was in the wrong.
But do you think if the circumstances were different as
far as you met in real life, you didn't meet
on a dating show and you lived in the same city.
(30:08):
Do you think do you think he would have cheated that?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
WHOA a crazy question, ask your Joe.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well, I'm just well, because we talked about this, so
I can kind of give you an insight of how
we navigated that conversation.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Because I figured that. I figured that because I think
that is an excuse that most people make that cheat
that go on a dating show, because the excuse is
it's not I'm different in a real relationship, like they
use it as as an excuse. Okay, And I'm just
curus I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Curious if he used the distance in the show as
an excuse.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and I want to know what. Yeah, Well, her.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Thoughts, So we actually did. This was one of the
we had like a big debrief at one point and
he kind of just kind of came to me with
I'm not using any of this as an excuse quote unquote.
I'm just kind of telling you each time that it happened,
this is where my head's face was at, and so
(31:11):
there's no excuse for any of it. The like I
talked about in the bile Flous the first original time
in July, when it happened when I received the pictures.
I was a little bit like, Okay, we had just
got back from the show. If we wouldn't have been
on the show, we probably wouldn't even be dating at
this point, probably still just talking, so like, maybe we
(31:33):
can work through that. But then when I found out
about the Boston situation, I'm like, Okay, there's no excuse
for that. Like I can't ever get past this. He
did say in July, whenever he got home, a lot
of his friends were kind of like asking him about
our relationship, asking him about the seriousness of it, and
he was very excited, and they just kept planting in
(31:56):
his ear, well, you know, it is a paradise, just
a paradiselationship. I do you think it's actually going to last.
So his excuse in a sense of doing what he
did in July was because he thought that it wasn't
actually like a lasting relationship. Which I was very taken
aback by that, because in my eyes, especially even though
(32:19):
it was early, I never once questioned, oh, we just
did that for TV. I think him and I went
to Paradise for very different reasons. I think he of
course wanted to go and like hopefully find someone, but
he didn't really hold much weight to that. For myself,
I didn't care about gaining an extra Instagram follower or
(32:41):
getting paid like, I didn't care about any of that.
Like I wanted to find a man. I wanted to
leave happy, and that's all that was important to me.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, that was very evident watching you on the show.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, clearly. Yeah, And so I think in the beginning,
for sure, if we would have met in a conventional way,
I would have been in San Diego, we wouldn't had
the pressure of distance. Then I would hope he wouldn't.
But then again, this is going to sound crazy too.
I think in order for Avan to become a changed man,
(33:13):
I don't want to speak on him, but in order
for him to truly become the man that he deserves
to be for someone, if that's not me, I think
this needed to happen. I think unfortunately it happened to me,
but I think he needed to wake up call that
he did have some character flaws he does need to change,
And unfortunately it happened on this magnitude, But he had
(33:35):
the whole world looking at him, and that is what
has forced him to become a completely different person. So
I don't know I would hope that if we met
in a conventional way, he wouldn't have done so, and
it sucks that he did it to me, but I
think for him and his personal growth journey, I think
it needed to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah. Cool, I like that. But then it makes you
answered my question, Well, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Is it? I don't know, it's so long?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
No, No, I think I think it does. I I'm
also curious too, because I know, like the door is
still open. So yeah, to me, I'm like, well, if
the door is still open, you're considering potentially getting back
with him, But I know you wouldn't get back with
him if you think that he would cheat again. So
that's why I'm more curious to think, like, maybe if
(34:29):
if you did live in the same city, state and
now it's it's not a relationship off the show, it's
just different.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Is that a concern in your mind that is maybe
holding you back from revisiting that relationship that he may
do it again.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I would say so, I I he has changed. I've
seen just so much growth in him in a couple
of months that he's been working on himself. So gun
to my head right now, I don't think he would
ever do that again, but it's any Like, I feel
like it would be abnormal for as a human to
(35:11):
not have that small insecurity in the back of my brain, like, Okay, well,
if he's going out with his friends without me, like
what is he doing? Because that one time he did that,
obviously it led to a different thing. He he would
give me all of the reassurance in the world right now,
and he's working to do that. But it's still just
that human flaw of like thinking, okay, that insecurity of like, okay,
(35:34):
but what is he doing tonight? I haven't heard from him,
you know, So it's really hard. I just have to like,
if I were to want to jump back into something
like that, I would. It would only be healthy for
our relationship to fully one hundred percent trust him. I
can't continue to harbor or bring back what he did
in the past enable in order for us to move forward.
(35:57):
So that's another thing. In order for us to get
back to that place, I need to trust him and
not have that insecurity anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I agree.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Well, wishing you the best on that journey. Whether the
door opens back up or closes.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I just hope that you end up happy.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I appreciate you. I know, I just wanna. I want
to be you. Guys. I'm ready just to be settled
down and just living my best life with my partner,
so hoping that one day I can get there.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Well, in the meantime, enjoy the bars with Jess and
dining in TV.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, have fun in Phoebe. Let's play a little game.
Let's do rapid fire get to know me with Kylie Russell.
So we're gonna ask you some questions and just the
first answer that comes to your mind. Okay, perfect, Okay, cool,
So dream vacation spot. Goodbye, Go to self care mask
(37:01):
favorite song or artist.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I feel like we may have asked you that last time.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He last time, and I will die say no time.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Go to drink at a bar, m tequila, pineapples. Favorite
food or cuisine anything Italian and Mountain Deal and chicken
fingers and fries.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Oh sorry, I know, Hi was Yeah that too?
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Gold or silver jewelry gold for sure. Wine night in
or girls night out.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I'm kind of a lazy girl, so definitely wine.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
D current favorite beauty product.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I just got into, like the bronzing drops. I don't
like to wear a lot of makeup at work because
I don't want to wake up early for that. So
if I just put some of those on my face,
it looks like I have makeup and then plus my so.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You know what I just started.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I I typically stray away from like skin tints just
because my skin so sensitive.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I haven't really found one that like sits well with
my skin.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
But the first aid beauty bronzing drops are to try.
Oh good, I put them like if I'm wearing like
stropless clothes. I'll literally put it like all over my
cast my shoulders. Yeah, it's really like that.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And you said it's first eight.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
First aid beauty. That's okay.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm gonna go look for it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Go to comfort movie or show.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
How to Lose a Guy in Today's a classic on.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Favorite season.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Summer. I'm excited for San Diego summers.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Oh yeah, it'll be your first time having like a
full year of summer.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, I'm so excited. I am. I am quite disappointed
in the weather. It's been very chilly thus far. I
always feel like I have to at least have a
jacket one So I'm ready for like the summer summer time.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Here, same girl. And then what is your favorite holiday?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I would say Christmas because that's when all of my
family gets together.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Christmas is the right answer.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yes, Christmas is the only answer. Christmas. Well, Kylie, thank
you so much for coming on bet your Happy Hour again.
It was really nice catching up with you.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I appreciate you. We got deep today, but it was
nice talking it all with you guys.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Not at the beginning though. The first five talked about
candy and pretzels and you're talking about And thank you
to all our listeners for tuning in. Make sure you
stay tuned in and subscribe because we have exclusive interviews
every week.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yep, don't fore to subscribe, and thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Bye bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we are here with Kylie Russell from last season
A Bachelor in Paradise and from Kylie, who is your
bachelor Zach?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, he's in twenty seven. I'm a Bacheler. What's Zach.
It's nice to let's see you guys again and be
back Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
It's so funny because we had Tyler Cameron a few
weeks ago and we're like, oh, like, you've never been
on the podcast, so crazy, and then this week I
was like, I think Kylie's been on like three times,
like she's like a regular here.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is my third time and I love this space.
I always feel so welcomed and very energetic platforms beyond,
so I'm excited to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We love having y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
When I hear your name, I think of one thing
and you said it up. You said it on our podcast,
and that's what I This is how I associate you. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do you know what they are on Happy Hour?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I think you said it on Clickbait already. It's if
you do. It's something that you do that I.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Drink Mountain do And yes, I really got off that
podcast and I was like, why did you just word vomit?
Like are you good? Because although I do that, I
don't want the world to know. But I live in
California now and I feel like I have to be
like a healthy queen. I guess. So we've done out
back on that and do and we only drink that
(01:24):
ever so often.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Really instead of waking up and having a coffee, I'll
wake up and have a glass.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Keep a Mountain Dew at her nightstand and wake up.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The first thing, you know what though, So that is
crazy Kylie like it is. But at the same time,
there's people that are like crazy, crazy diet coke drinkers,
and I feel like it's kind of similar. I mean,
Anna Redmond is like obsessed with mountain dew. Also, I
think they like sent her a bunch of I don't
(01:59):
feel so wone now there's a community of you guys
out there drinking Mountaindale.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Less embarrassed now. But yeah, like I said, I've tried
to kind of put my health at my forefront and
be a little bit better. But I think I will
if mountain dew is what kills me, at least I'll
die happy. I guess you.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Know what everyone has like their thing, you know, like
Joe loves Pinkberry and.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Like, okay, I actually don't. I'm actually I'm over Pinkberry.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Is no longer ordering Pinkberry every night after But if
I were, if I were to do a pop, if
I were to drink a pop, my go to is
a coke.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I love a good king. It's a toss up
Coke Coker Mountain dew for me. But mon deu is there?
My heart lives.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Do you drink coffee?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No? And I'm a nurse, so I work long, twelve
hour shifts and not being a coffee drinker will be
the death of me, just because I'm so physically tired
all the time. And it would be so nice to
have like that espresso boost. But it's just my tastebuds
are really picky. I'm twenty six, and I have the
tastebuds of like like a six year old child. So
I'm hoping one day I'll wake up and they'll be
(03:09):
like evolved, but unfortunately does not yet happen, So no
coffee for me. I want to like Starbucks. I want
to walk in with like my cute scrubs and my latte.
But it just will never be me unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's all right, that's so funny to me. I like,
so you're like a chicken fingers and fries girl.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, I think too. That's why when you
were traveling for Zach season at the Bachelor, one of
the things put being on TV and like the emotions
of like falling in love aside, Like, one of my
biggest struggles was finding things on the menu in the
different countries that I liked. It was a struggle and
probably a red flag. But if they don't have chicken
(03:50):
fingers and fries, like I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What's the most adventurous food you've you've dabbled in?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, so I my junior year of college, I went
to Spain for two weeks and Spanish food is very interesting.
I thought. So in the South, we love a good
hush puppy, and for whatever reason, I thought I was
eating a hush puppy in Spain. It definitely wasn't a hushpuppiy.
It was. I'd bit into it. It looked just like
(04:17):
one and cuet. Yeah, probably, and it was not. I
was very surprised that it was not what I was expecting,
so I think that I think the Spanish food in
Spain really was out there for me. I ended up
finding an American diner in like the pit of Barcelona,
and I ate there like every other day, just because
(04:40):
I want to be so cultured, like I really do.
But my taste bluds just hate me basically.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But you know what, like, if you're trying things, that's
all you can do. You know what I mean exactly,
you don't like them, you don't like them. I feel
like it's just out of your control, like what foods
taste good to and what don't.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Thank you, Serene, thank you for having me b And
it's like you said, it's not like lack of effort.
I always put my best friend forward. It's just my
body rejects me. So they know I'm always advocate.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I feel like I used to be judgmental of picky eaters,
but then I'm like, when you think about it, it's like,
if you're not willing to try different foods, like that
is an issue. I think I think you should always
be open to, like trying different cultures foods, but if
you're trying them and they don't taste good to you,
Like you can't do anything about that, like if you
don't like them. Oh, I'm just a girl, yeah, like
the just who wants chicken fingers.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I have a friend that I was just in Forida
with and he he will only eat like a cheeseburger
well done with catchup and like cheetos and like that's
all he'll eat. But we have to pivot.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So you you're from Charlotte, yes, and you are living
wear in California.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, you're in San Diego right.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yes, I'm one of the basic Bachelor nations and that
moved to California, San Diego specifically after being on a season.
I'm actually in my apartment with I love with Jess
Gerard from my season of Paradise a ZAC season. She's
in the room beside me. She's a work from homegirly.
So my god, Hi Jack, Yeah, hey Jess, if you
can hear us. But yeah, no, I have loved it.
(06:20):
I've been here. I moved here in mid February, so
it's almost been two months, which is insane how fast
time it's grown. It's taken some adjustment because it's so
much different than the East Coast. But I really do
love it.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
What do you think it is that pulls so many
people from Bachelor Nation to go live in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Like, was it on your radar before?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was it just like all of your friends were moving there,
you thought it would be fine? Like it's the whole
San Diego Bachelor Nation thing is so interesting to me
because there's literally so many of them there.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah. So I honestly, for myself, if you would have
told me prior to going on The Bachelor that I
would ever move out of Charlotte, I would be like,
you're insane. There's no way. I went to college there.
I loved ten minutes from my parents after being out
of my parents' house, Like, Charlotte was my home, it
was my community, and I loved it there. And so
I think The Bachelor and especially Paradise provided so much
(07:14):
growth for me and allowed me to really become independent.
And then so that kind of sparked my interest of
wanting to get out of Charlotte and explore and experience
new cities. And then everyone for my season, I know,
Kat lives here now, Genevieve Mayo and then Anastasia and
(07:34):
they kind of just picked up and came here and
so Jess and I were like, why not us? So
I think it was just it was never specifically San Diego.
For me, it was I want to experience a new city,
and all my friends just so happened to go to
San Diego. So that's why I chose it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
That makes sense because it's like it's an easy adventure,
but it also feels safe probably to be like, I
want to try something new, but I don't want to
be like isolated and alone.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And you know that you're going to have kind of
a beautiful too.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah. I mean it's not a hard place to live
at all. And exactly like you're saying, Serene, I did
become very independent on the Bachelor, but I don't think
power to the people who can pick up a move
and know no one. But unfortunately that's just not something
I probably would ever be comfortable with. So it's that
comfort blanket of having my friends here while exploring a
(08:26):
beautiful inner city. You guys should come and visit.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I've actually never been to San Diego.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I knew that.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I think you've been twice, Yeah, twice.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I think I would love to go.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
It's just like we live in New York and it's
like a bit of a mission to get out there.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, it's far. It's like a six hour flight from
North Carolina, so I feel like it may be a
little further for good. I'm very geographically challenged, so I'm
not exactly sure. But New York was actually on the list.
I know Davia and we are both live in New York,
and so I was like pulled in either that action
or San Diego. But I hate the cold, and unfortunately,
(09:04):
you guys' winters are brutal, so I'm going to stay
over here where I can go to the beach.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Basically, So what is what is a regular weekend for
you guys? Are you all getting together all the time?
What's that looking like?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah? So I think because we have the comfort of
each other, we find ourselves migrating to one another. We
like to experience any new restaurants. We like to go
to the local bars. There's two separate kind of like
fields of San Diego. You have Pacific Beach, which is
like your beachy bars, kind of gives like a college vibe.
(09:39):
And I swear Jessica is obsessed with peb like she'd
probably be buried there as she could, so she often
drags us to PB or there's like the little Italy area.
I would say it's like similar to New York vibes,
kind of like your older men women kind of just
like by very low key and subtle. So I guess
(10:03):
it just depends on how we wake up that Saturday
and what we're feeling. But if it's up to Jess,
peb is where it will be.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Where it is at And then during the week, what
is your life like?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You were an urn right, yes, in Charlotte?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Okay, I was. Yeah, I was honestly really weird because
I had been talking about moving since like September of
last year, and I worked in postpartum, so right after
a mom and baby delivers and labor delivery, they come
to my unit and I take care of them for
the next couple of days. And it's a very specialized field,
and once you're there, no one really wants to leave
(10:37):
because it's an amazing place to work. Long story short,
I could not find a gig anywhere in San Diego.
It was almost impossible, and so I'd kind of just
given up. I was going to work at a med
spa here already like accepted the offer, was ready to go.
And then the day I moved out, I found a position.
Day I moved out of Charlotte, I found a postpartum
(10:59):
position at a hospital here, and I like interviewed on
a whim. Literally within an hour later, I had an
offer letter, and then two hours later I was on
a plane to San Diego. So it was like everything
had just fallen into place. I was so like genuinely
excited about my work and when I was coming to so, yeah,
I'm a post part of Meiers here in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It mustage just felt like truly the stars were aligning
for you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Literally, because I think I was obviously excited about moving,
but my job was kind of holding back that excitement
because it just it wasn't where I felt like I
was drawn to. And so that aligning literally was like, Okay,
I'm supposed to be going here. I'm supposed to be here,
and it's going to be a good experience.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Nice. What what are you? What are your what are
your shifts? Like? What shifts do you work?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I am a unicorn and I was able to get
not only a new job, but I was able to
get day shifts. So I work I go in about
and that's really rare, especially if you're starting out on
a new unit. You're typically always nights and then you
have to work through what your way up to days.
So I get into the hospital around like six forty
five in the morning and then I don't ever really
leave until about seven forty five at night. So it's
(12:11):
so long day once I'm there. But I only typically
work three to four days a week, so I have
some days of rest like today in between, so it
makes it, it makes it worth it nice.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's uh, yeah, that's not bad. Then I never know
because like sometimes I hear like you'all hear like nurses
that work around the clock every day and then you
have like there's all different hours, so I was curious
about that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I empowered to them. I can agree that I was
off of work for like two and a half months
and so my body was used to just being lazy,
and then I go into my first whole hour shifts
being back, and I felt like I had just died
and got back to life. So I'm slowly but surely adjusted.
But it's very hard on your body, but a really
rewarding job.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, I feel like that's such a special unit to
work in because you're kind of seeing people hopefully and
like their happiest time with their news.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah yeah, but also like stressful because it's like if.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
They're not getting any sleep, the babies wanting to feed
all night, the babies crying. No, it's literally so rewarding.
I feel like there's a lot of education that comes
into my job of just like helping especially a new
mom transition into motherhood. I will say, like ninety eight
percent of the time, like you said, it's one of
the happiest moments of their life. I do occasionally get
(13:32):
some baby daddy drama that's always kind of interesting to see.
But yes, yes, I like sometimes I like, am I
working on Jerry Springer? Or like, am I in the
hospital right now? But putting that aside, it's very refreshing
and something I love to do.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I could totally see you in that role. If I
ever have a baby, I'll be like, Kylie, what do
I do?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'll fly out to New York and I'll do all
of the most part tricks I got you.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Thank you all right? So I want to get into
your dating life, but before we do, let me kind
of summarize for everyone what went down, Yes, with your
season of Paradise. So essentially, you're on Paradise, you and
Avon leave kind of like you wishy washy, but like
(14:28):
you're kind of in a you're you're somewhat of a couple.
Then after the show airs, you guys post that you're
together in San Diego, and then like twenty four hours later,
you post a story or you might have posted in
and feed that he cheated on you, and you guys
are broken up. And that's kind of the last of
(14:49):
what I know, and I think most of the viewers know.
I know you went and did file files, so I'm
sure you talked a little more on that, but yeah,
you want to catch us up.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, so that time period of my life was a whirlwind.
Just like you said, I left with Avon on the show.
It didn't really look like we were happy. We just
had some we had indifferences about kind of our ending
when it came to the show, but we still decided
to leave with each other as like boyfriend girlfriend. We
I think it was like a six month time period
(15:23):
in between filming and the very end of the show.
We were a strong couple, as strong as we could be.
Because we were doing long distance. I had not yet
moved to San Diego. I was still in Charlotte, he
was here, and then we would make it a point
to try to see each other at least once per month,
and we did a really good job with that. And
then unfortunately I did find out that news, and it
(15:46):
kind of felt like everything was just like stripped away
from me and I was having to start from scratch.
I haven't I'm not really seasoned when it comes to
being in relationships. Aside from Avan, I only had one
other boyfriend and that was six years ago. So obviously
I've talked to guys, I've dated around, but never really
(16:06):
been serious with anyone other than those two men, and
so I've never been cheated on before. This was the
first time. So having that happened to you was already
like a gut punch, but then having to deal with
it on such a public platform that was like, I
can't even put into words how devastating that was. And
(16:29):
then I felt like I had to answer to so
many people because in one breath I was posting that
you were together, and then we were happy, and everyone
was texting me congratulations, and then all of a sudden
I find this out and I'm like feeling I have
to lie to people saying thank you, and we're not
together anymore. So long story short, I am in a
place where I've completely moved past the emotions of finding
(16:54):
something like that out. I'm trying to be I feel
like it was a sense, to be very honest with you,
It's kind of like I had the human emotion of
like feeling insecure about myself there for a little bit
because I'm like, well, if he chose to do this
to me, then there's obviously I'm not enough or there's
obviously something wrong with me, and I know that's not
(17:15):
the case whatsoever, But it was just that human emotion
of like, Okay, is there something I need to do better.
I have now since grown from that and realized that
that's not necessarily the case. It was just a character
flaw on his end. But it's really just putting the
pieces back together just because I did. We were in
such a strong place where at the end of it
(17:38):
that I thought that he was my future, in my
forever and being having that stripped away from me completely,
so suddenly I was like, Okay, I got to start over,
and I will say, I'm not gonna lie moving to
San Diego. He was a big part of that prior
to all of this happening. So I had to decide
one if I was going to continue to move, if
(17:58):
I was going to ever even be willing to speak
to him again, Like there were so many different things.
So that was like my life was a whirlwind in
December and January, and then I decided to move here
solely for myself. I wanted to prove to myself that
I am independent, that I can finally cut the umbilical
cord from my family and I can do big things
(18:21):
without them, And then I wanted to experience this with
my friends. I think right now, speaking on dating, I
am not in a position to be dating anyone. I
think that circumstance really just like took everything out of
me and I can't find it in me right now.
(18:42):
I know it will eventually come to give myself like
that to someone else again, So I think it's just
all about time and allowing myself to fully heal before
I jump back into something.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
What was that feeling like then moving to San Diego? Obviously,
like you have your girls there, you have friends, but
like he lives there right right, So you know, I'm
now moving to the city where my ex I don't
know exactly like how you're referring to him label wise
at that time, but like my ex is living there,
(19:14):
and like, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You have mutual friends in the city.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like, was there anxiety had you talked to him like, Hey,
I'm coming into town, we might run into each other?
Like what was that dynamic like, and how are you
feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So I was definitely very anxious. I would be lying
if I said that, even and I still were in
somewhat of communication, so he knew that I was moving.
I think he was very anxious too, just because obviously
he was in a like a place, in a space
where he wanted to get back together, but he wanted
to give me time to heal as well. As he's
(19:48):
been very mature in all of this. He's wanting to
heal and become a better person himself before he even
jumps back into anything, So he wanted I think we
were both scared because we wanted to allow each other
their space to grow separately before because you know, you're
in a new city, that comfortability of having someone that
(20:09):
you were once so close to can easily draw you
to them, but it wasn't. We didn't want it to
be a situation where we just like, because it was comfortable,
we just jumped back in. And that wasn't even something
that I was considering at the point, but knew it
could be a possibility because it would have been easy.
So I think I was definitely very anxious, but we
(20:32):
had grown conversations where we were like, we just need
to take this time apart and give each other space.
I don't I should, a normal human should, but I
don't harbor any like resentment towards Avan. I was very
angry with him, especially with what he had done, but
(20:53):
I just try. I know I can't continue to grow
and I can't move forward if I don't find it,
and need to hopefully one day fully forgive him because
it's just not allowing me to fully, fully move past
that and fully be a better version of myself. So
it's its not It's probably been one of the hardest
things I've ever had to navigate in my life, and
(21:16):
I'm just trying to do it grace as gracefully as
I can and as responsible as I can, and just
truly look out for myself because at the end of
the day, I think I need to put myself above
everything when it comes to that situation.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, and you say, you know, it's not a normal
way to handle it, but I really don't think there's
any normal way to handle infidelity. I think, you know,
I've been exposed to people in my life experiencing that
in relationships, and like everyone handles it differently, Every situation
is different, so you know, don't be too hard on yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Thank you. It's been really it has. It has taken
a toll, especially in my mental health. But I've been
going to therapy. We love therapy, and just really trying
to move forward and build a life for myself separately
out here. I want my own identity out here, I
want my own friends, and I don't want to fall
into that negative space.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I don't think there's anything wrong with forgiving him,
especially because I think that's that's better on your own
mental health when you do forgive someone an opposed to
at least for speaking for myself opposed to holding a grudge,
because I feel like that negativity will just like linger
with inside you, and that's I feel like that's not good. Yeah, absolutely,
(22:37):
as of as of today, do you still speak to Even?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I knew you guys were going to get into the
integrity of things.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Well you said.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No, it's okay, It's okay, So I will say Even
and I are really good friends at this point. I
have just been trying to navigate because I've only been
here in like two months. I recently started my new
job two weeks ago, so I've been trying to navigate.
Thank you being here working and like I said, building
(23:09):
a life for myself out here separately. So we're very
good friends. We still catch up. I'm still kind of
encouraging him on his journey of healing, just as I did.
And I know he kind of brought it upon himself.
He did receive a lot of hate in regards to this,
(23:29):
and that took a big toll on his mental health.
So just kind of healing from that. But like I said,
I'm not in a space right now to fully comment
myself in a relationship with anyone, even included, So I
think we're both just working on ourselves before we decide
how we would move forward, if that would even be
a thing, or how we would grow in our separate ways.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Have you guys seen each other in person, I feel
like it would be impossible to avoid each other.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, so we have seen each other in person. The
first interaction I kind of like took my like it
was it was a shock, just because I hadn't seen
him in so long prior to everything happening. Everything is
very cordial, if I think that's the best word to
(24:17):
put it. It's such a tricky space to navigate because
I know my worth, I know what I deserve, and
so I'm trying not to sacrifice any of that for anyone.
So if there was ever even like a possibility or
(24:38):
a chance for us to get back together, he would
have to completely work on himself and I would have
to know in my heart of hearts like he is
a changed person. So I just yeah, yeah, it's just
a lot. It's a lot to process, and I think
I talked about this on next podcast, But for me,
it was really hard because I I don't think I'd
(25:00):
ever truly loved anyone prior to even so I had
given so much in myself and invested so much in
our relationship that's very hard just to like walk away
from immediately in the drop of the hat. So I've
just been really trying to give myself grace but realize
who I am, what I deserve, and kind of just
(25:21):
hold that to the upmost standard.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, So what I'm hearing is the door is still
open if the conditions were right and the work had
been done.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Had been done. Yes, And I don't know how long
that will take. We could both be in a place
where we've moved on, we've moved forward before that could happen.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is my
main focus right now is not dating. My main focus
is Kylie and building my career. I'm starting nurse practitioners
(25:55):
school in August. I just moved to a big city. Like,
there's so many exciting things happening for me that I'm
not trying to dwell or put my energy into a
relationship right now.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
You I know you're saying you're not you're not ready
to fully date. But if let's say you went out
with your girlfriends and you're at a bar and you
meet a guy and you're like really into him, are
you willing to go on?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are you willing to go on a date and see
where things go?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't. I don't think it would be responsible for
me to do so right now, just because it wouldn't
be It wouldn't be fair to the other person because
I in that moment, you know, like lust and desire,
I could potentially feel ready, but I know in my heart,
like one, oh, part of it still belongs to my
relationship with Aban, and I'm trying to recover and heal
(26:46):
from that and like move on from that because I
know it's already April. But like I said, I was
so blindsided by all of this.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, and there's no timeline.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There's no timeline, and trust me, it would be so easy.
My life would be so much better if I could
have just woken up the next day after I found
out now about it and was like, if him, screw him,
I never want to see him again because then I
could just like wipe my hands clean and moved on.
But unfortunately that just hasn't been my healing journey. So
I don't think it would be fair to the other
(27:17):
person if I put myself off there right now. Could
that change next week? Absolutely, But I just I just
need the time and space to grow, and I'm typically old.
Kylie would be like, oh, absolutely, because it could kind
of just feel fill avoid at that point. But I'm
really trying to be mature and grow, so I think
(27:37):
for myself right now, what's best for me. I just
need to focus on me.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
If Paradise was a thing and you were in a
place where you.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Felt ready to date, would you go back?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
So I think when it comes to Paradise, I would
have to the door between Ave and I would have
to be closed. And then again, I don't know if
America wants to see me crying every other day of
the week again, So you would probably have to ask
America if they're not that avoid with see me, then maybe,
(28:16):
But honestly, I don't know. I loved Paradise so much,
Like when Jesse came down the stairs and told us
that it was over, like I wanted to cry because
I was so upset, Like no, I'm like Kinnesas forever.
But the aftermath of Paradise really took a toll on me,
not just in regards to like the ave and stuff,
(28:38):
but I did receive a lot of hate. So I
just don't know if I would want to put myself
back out there again. But if America would promise to
be kind, I don't know. It would just have to
be the right time. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's hard, that's fair saying.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, like absolutely no,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
But it's okay to say, like based on what I
went through, Like if they were like no right now,
it's okay, Like we will hold you to it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
If in a year they asked you and you decide
to go, we won't hold you to that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Okay, Okay, okay, thanks three.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So you're really not ready to date, go on another
dating show, or do anything until the door is fully
closed with AVA or fully open and the door is
not the door is not fully closed.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, I don't think it would be fair for me
to put myself out there in that way if the
door was somewhat open with anyone. So, yeah, to be
respectful to all parties.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yes, you're right, I'm going to ask you one more question.
Then we're going to play a game.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Thanks not to not not at all to excuse even
of his actions, because I think he was in the wrong.
But do you think if the circumstances were different as
far as you met in real life, you didn't meet
on a dating show and you lived in the same city.
(30:08):
Do you think do you think he would have cheated that?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
WHOA a crazy question, ask your Joe.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well, I'm just well, because we talked about this, so
I can kind of give you an insight of how
we navigated that conversation.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Because I figured that. I figured that because I think
that is an excuse that most people make that cheat
that go on a dating show, because the excuse is
it's not I'm different in a real relationship, like they
use it as as an excuse. Okay, And I'm just
curus I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Curious if he used the distance in the show as
an excuse.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah, and I want to know what. Yeah, Well, her.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Thoughts, So we actually did. This was one of the
we had like a big debrief at one point and
he kind of just kind of came to me with
I'm not using any of this as an excuse quote unquote.
I'm just kind of telling you each time that it happened,
this is where my head's face was at, and so
(31:11):
there's no excuse for any of it. The like I
talked about in the bile Flous the first original time
in July, when it happened when I received the pictures.
I was a little bit like, Okay, we had just
got back from the show. If we wouldn't have been
on the show, we probably wouldn't even be dating at
this point, probably still just talking, so like, maybe we
(31:33):
can work through that. But then when I found out
about the Boston situation, I'm like, Okay, there's no excuse
for that. Like I can't ever get past this. He
did say in July, whenever he got home, a lot
of his friends were kind of like asking him about
our relationship, asking him about the seriousness of it, and
he was very excited, and they just kept planting in
(31:56):
his ear, well, you know, it is a paradise, just
a paradiselationship. I do you think it's actually going to last.
So his excuse in a sense of doing what he
did in July was because he thought that it wasn't
actually like a lasting relationship. Which I was very taken
aback by that, because in my eyes, especially even though
(32:19):
it was early, I never once questioned, oh, we just
did that for TV. I think him and I went
to Paradise for very different reasons. I think he of
course wanted to go and like hopefully find someone, but
he didn't really hold much weight to that. For myself,
I didn't care about gaining an extra Instagram follower or
(32:41):
getting paid like, I didn't care about any of that.
Like I wanted to find a man. I wanted to
leave happy, and that's all that was important to me.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, that was very evident watching you on the show.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, clearly. Yeah, And so I think in the beginning,
for sure, if we would have met in a conventional way,
I would have been in San Diego, we wouldn't had
the pressure of distance. Then I would hope he wouldn't.
But then again, this is going to sound crazy too.
I think in order for Avan to become a changed man,
(33:13):
I don't want to speak on him, but in order
for him to truly become the man that he deserves
to be for someone, if that's not me, I think
this needed to happen. I think unfortunately it happened to me,
but I think he needed to wake up call that
he did have some character flaws he does need to change,
And unfortunately it happened on this magnitude, But he had
(33:35):
the whole world looking at him, and that is what
has forced him to become a completely different person. So
I don't know I would hope that if we met
in a conventional way, he wouldn't have done so, and
it sucks that he did it to me, but I
think for him and his personal growth journey, I think
it needed to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah. Cool, I like that. But then it makes you
answered my question, Well, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Is it? I don't know, it's so long?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
No, No, I think I think it does. I I'm
also curious too, because I know, like the door is
still open. So yeah, to me, I'm like, well, if
the door is still open, you're considering potentially getting back
with him, But I know you wouldn't get back with
him if you think that he would cheat again. So
that's why I'm more curious to think, like, maybe if
(34:29):
if you did live in the same city, state and
now it's it's not a relationship off the show, it's
just different.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Is that a concern in your mind that is maybe
holding you back from revisiting that relationship that he may
do it again.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I would say so, I I he has changed. I've
seen just so much growth in him in a couple
of months that he's been working on himself. So gun
to my head right now, I don't think he would
ever do that again, but it's any Like, I feel
like it would be abnormal for as a human to
(35:11):
not have that small insecurity in the back of my brain, like, Okay, well,
if he's going out with his friends without me, like
what is he doing? Because that one time he did that,
obviously it led to a different thing. He he would
give me all of the reassurance in the world right now,
and he's working to do that. But it's still just
that human flaw of like thinking, okay, that insecurity of like, okay,
(35:34):
but what is he doing tonight? I haven't heard from him,
you know, So it's really hard. I just have to like,
if I were to want to jump back into something
like that, I would. It would only be healthy for
our relationship to fully one hundred percent trust him. I
can't continue to harbor or bring back what he did
in the past enable in order for us to move forward.
(35:57):
So that's another thing. In order for us to get
back to that place, I need to trust him and
not have that insecurity anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I agree.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Well, wishing you the best on that journey. Whether the
door opens back up or closes.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I just hope that you end up happy.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I appreciate you. I know, I just wanna. I want
to be you. Guys. I'm ready just to be settled
down and just living my best life with my partner,
so hoping that one day I can get there.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Well, in the meantime, enjoy the bars with Jess and
dining in TV.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, have fun in Phoebe. Let's play a little game.
Let's do rapid fire get to know me with Kylie Russell.
So we're gonna ask you some questions and just the
first answer that comes to your mind. Okay, perfect, Okay, cool,
So dream vacation spot. Goodbye, Go to self care mask
(37:01):
favorite song or artist.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I feel like we may have asked you that last time.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He last time, and I will die say no time.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Go to drink at a bar, m tequila, pineapples. Favorite
food or cuisine anything Italian and Mountain Deal and chicken
fingers and fries.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Oh sorry, I know, Hi was Yeah that too?
Speaker 6 (37:34):
Gold or silver jewelry gold for sure. Wine night in
or girls night out.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I'm kind of a lazy girl, so definitely wine.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
D current favorite beauty product.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I just got into, like the bronzing drops. I don't
like to wear a lot of makeup at work because
I don't want to wake up early for that. So
if I just put some of those on my face,
it looks like I have makeup and then plus my so.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You know what I just started.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I I typically stray away from like skin tints just
because my skin so sensitive.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I haven't really found one that like sits well with
my skin.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
But the first aid beauty bronzing drops are to try.
Oh good, I put them like if I'm wearing like
stropless clothes. I'll literally put it like all over my
cast my shoulders. Yeah, it's really like that.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And you said it's first eight.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
First aid beauty. That's okay.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I'm gonna go look for it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Go to comfort movie or show.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
How to Lose a Guy in Today's a classic on.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Favorite season.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Summer. I'm excited for San Diego summers.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Oh yeah, it'll be your first time having like a
full year of summer.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, I'm so excited. I am. I am quite disappointed
in the weather. It's been very chilly thus far. I
always feel like I have to at least have a
jacket one So I'm ready for like the summer summer time.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Here, same girl. And then what is your favorite holiday?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I would say Christmas because that's when all of my
family gets together.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Christmas is the right answer.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yes, Christmas is the only answer. Christmas. Well, Kylie, thank
you so much for coming on bet your Happy Hour again.
It was really nice catching up with you.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I appreciate you. We got deep today, but it was
nice talking it all with you guys.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Not at the beginning though. The first five talked about
candy and pretzels and you're talking about And thank you
to all our listeners for tuning in. Make sure you
stay tuned in and subscribe because we have exclusive interviews
every week.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yep, don't fore to subscribe, and thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Bye bye,
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