May 9, 2024 • 38 mins
Today on Happy Hour, our former Bachelor Joey is back with a very special guest: his father Nick! Nick is here to tell us all about the Bachelor experience from the eyes of a parent.
We kick off today's episode getting Nick's POV on Joey's journey, from Charity to today. Then, we get the beautiful story of Joey and Nick's relationship; from coming out to his children, to raising Joey into the beloved man Bachelor Nation knows today. You won't want to miss this beautiful, one-of-a-kind episode. Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bacheler Happy Hour. I'm Joe
and I'm Serena, and we are here with our most
frequented guest, the best Bachelor of all time, Joey is
here and he brought his father along with him. Nick,
Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
This is so exciting because Joey is a Happy Hour regular.
He's been on this podcast maybe more than anyone else.
And Nick, you're the first parent that we've ever had,
and we've actually talked.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm a little nervous, are you nervous?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We have in parent parents are the house, but we've
actually talked about how it would be so interesting to
have a parent on because you guys have such a
different experience than us as contestants. I mean, we know
our parents have a lot to say about the show
and the journeys. So we're really excited to talk to
you today.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm excited as well.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Where where do you currently live?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And where where are you from?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I am from I'm born and raised at Central New
York and lived in Florida for thirty plus years. That's
where Joey was born and recently relocated to. I came
to Philadelphia, actually Phoenixville, where the one you know, my
daughter Carly lives, and since one I have you know,
Joey was in Tawai. Carly's in Philly, and my other
(01:30):
daughter's in Texas, and I was in Florida. So when
Carly was married, I figured I'd been. I figured she
wasn't going anywhere, so let me move close to at
least one of my kids.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There you go, and then hopefully the grandkids come.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Soun no rush for good though, well I can't. I
can't say that's so get mad at me. But I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I have a grand dog, she has a girl, little
Harper's or my grandkid.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Right now, there you go, a grandpuppy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And what do you do for a living?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I worked for actually where for company where helping seniors
kind of and their caregivers find the best solution for
their families and placement for them.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I worked for a company doing that right.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Now, nice, How did you get into that?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Actually?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I wanted I found you know, I came from it
was I was working when I moved from Florida. I
was working actually with some doctors, and then this opportunity
came across my desk, which I was more interested in
because instead of helping the hospitals and the doctors, I
was able to help the families more. And and I
do have a mother who was in assisted living as well,
so it kind of definitely held the place near and there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
To my heart.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so now let's talk about let's talk about Joey
boy over here. You know, this is weird because none
of these questions really are directed to you, Joey.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You're just there.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Be in trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, So, Nick, what was your initial reaction when Joey
came to you and told you that he was going
on the Bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
What are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Kidding?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It was good actually, you know, knowing my son and
I want it was kind of happened when I was
in Hawaii with him, which was pretty ironic. I was
visiting him in January when they started and just kind
of that's when things started, and he figured he was
given a shot, nothing to lose, and I thought it
was great.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I thought it was I thought it was a cool opportunity.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Uh, you know, I thought it'd be great for him
because I know it's hard where he lived in Hawaii
to meet you know, meet women and really you know,
find someone there. So I think this was I thought
it was a good option for him and a good
opportunity to kind of see what's out there.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
I actually totally forgot about that he was there for
that phone call, so I obviously the DM was what
I talked about.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I got d M back in like I think it
was early January.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
But when he was there was when I first got
a call from the casting like starting the process.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
He was with me on the beach in Hawaii and
that happened.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, that's crazy. Had you ever watched the show or
what was your knowledge of the show when do I
got that call?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Watched you know, beginning probably the first season, maybe you know,
many many moons ago as the old man here, But yeah,
did you know it was interesting?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know a little bit not getting I.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Will say no the question follows, but not until I
was in it that I really understand it. But you know, initially,
you know, just kind of look at is a reality
TV show, it's just real whatever, And then seeing what transpired,
I was pretty amazed, actually, and actually was very impressed
with how everything was handled.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Joey when you two had that conversation, when you got
that call, what did you think the odds were that
you were actually going to get casted? At that point?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I thought it was definitely unique that someone reached out
to me, but I also understood that there was hundreds
and hundreds of people at that time that they were
talking to. So I put it out of solid fifty
to fifty. But my dad was really supportive. He's downgrading it.
He was probably the easiest person to talk to about it.
That didn't make it seem like it was so far
fetched to do something like this. He's always been like
(04:50):
my big issues, like support with all these types of things,
and it was it was nice to have him there
when I was trying to wrap my head around that
fifty to fifty opportunity.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What was your hope for Joey when he then got
cast and went on charity season?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
And honestly, I wanted him to first, like about a
show with my swan, to be present, you know, enjoy
the experience, you know, take away what he could from it. Meet,
you know, meet some new people. Meet obviously to meet
a woman that might be the right person for him.
So really just it was more just you know, excited
for him for the experience, because that was a great opportunity,
just something new.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Did you have any concerns or worries about what could
potentially happen with him, like heartbreak or anything like that humiliation?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I know, you're right. Yeah, you're right, and we
think about that.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
But honestly, because Joey and I have had we do
have a good relationship, and he's open about everything with me,
and we do talk about everything, and you know, he
has amazed me. You know, before he went on the show,
I was impressed with my son as far as how
he really, you know, just because he's talked to me
about other relationships and just how in tune with himself,
how he's very self aware and the kind of guy
(06:05):
he is where he really does you know, he's always
wants to be better, but he's always in check with himself.
So I kind of was, you know, not concerned about
the heartbreak so much, but I knew that he'd handle
it well and know how to navigate his feelings.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Got it okay. So he ends up getting his heart broken,
he ends up going I'll eat on basically making it
to hometowns. So you get that call a like what's
your initial reaction? Are you shocked? And then how do
you feel that you're gonna now also be on television?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, the second part not's so great, but first part
was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It was exciting, you know, it was kind of great
that he made that far and was so excited to
meet you know, to meet charity like this would be
very cool, like let's find out what this is all about.
So that worked, you know, obviously, no one I think
we all. I'm sure you guys are doing it, but
first of all, being on TM like not so much,
but again, do anything for my son. So I sucked
it up and it was good, actually exciting, and it
(07:09):
was actually amazing just to see how everything developed too
when the crew came.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
No, I know how that feels like that forst Like,
you know, my first experience in front of the cameras
on the show, I was like an actual nervous wreck,
Like it took me multiple actual shows, took me years
to get like somewhat comfortable. So I can't imagine having
to have like a real conversation with your son who's
(07:34):
basically telling you like, I'm in love with this girl
and I'm probably gonna get down on one knee. And
you're also internally a nervous wreck because you have seven
cameras in your face.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So it's tough too, because like I still remember that
day back when I walked into that house and I
realized that I just put my whole.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Family into this experience and they didn't sign up for that.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I did, so that whole Like, I remember the first
conversation with each of them, the first five minutes you
spend like are you good, Like is this okay?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Are you comfortable?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Because you feel for them that they didn't sign up
to be in front of cameras and they just kind
of got thrown into it just because you made it
to the top four of this entire experience.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It is such a trip because you're isolated filming this show.
You can't talk to each other, and then all of
a sudden, it's like worlds collide and like your family
has been plopped in that environment. I remember my hometown
Nate just looking at them and them looking at me,
and everyone being like this is weird, Like what have
we all gotten ourselves into here? Joey, how did you
(08:34):
think your dad would be? Because like, obviously you knew
he was coming. You knew you you know, Okay, hometowns
is coming up. I've made it. You're imagining your family
showing up. How do you think your dad would be?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
He was exactly what I expected.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
He's kind of as a lot of people say that,
I'm a calming person for a lot of people, That's
what my dad is a lot of times for me.
He just kind of gets me in a lot of
ways and can kind of center me back and explain
that he's proud out of me and whatever happens, you're
going to do great. And I think I I knew
there was going to be tough conversations going into that
where I need to almost like I don't want to
say it convinced, but you know what I mean, where
(09:09):
you have to like get them to believe that this
could actually work and that I'm doing the best that
I could. And he was probably the only person I
walked in the conversation didn't have any nerves about that.
So I knew he was just going to be supportive
and and really be there for me because he knew.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
This was a crazy time, and then Nick on the flip,
how did you think Joey was going to be and
was he what you expected?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, you know, honestly, he came in like just big smiles, honestly,
and that just right there, you just got it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's like, this is really, this is good. You know,
I knew he was in a good place.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
So that was really that was very positive, so very
easy to like work with him and know that you know,
he's he's doing something that it's gone, well, let's say,
you know, and it's who's good you know, is he was?
He was great too because he's helping all of us
and not be nervous, like listen, just you can use
to the cameras being there, all that stuff would happen
and they were like, yeah, okay, there's like eight of
them on me and it's like you're looking around, but
he you know, him coming in and just honestly, the
(10:03):
crazy part is, yeah, I haven't seen him for a while.
And then just seeing him with Charity walk in and
you're like, oh, hey, this is real. So it was
a little you know, that was definitely, you know, that
was interesting to say.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
What these.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
When you when you guys left and you left Joey,
how hopeful were you or where did you think his
relationship was going to go with Charity? Did you think
he was going to end up with her?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know, i'd say yes, actually really did that.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
How they looked at each other, how they communicated to us,
both of them, you know, they were real emotions. It
was very sincere, you know, and you know saying did
I think yes, more hopeful, I would say hopeful that
he did, you know, end up with Charity as you
know that part too, And I think we all walked
away where really, you know, with I think we went through.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What Joey did. Alm was it was like what if
she does hick him?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I mean we all had that reaction or we're like, wait,
this may not happen, but we're hopeful, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, well spoiler alert, she didn't pick out Ye sad
ending for our boy Joey. How did it feel coming
home and then hearing you know, hey it didn't work
out dad?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I guess what was the conversation between YouTube Joey.
I mean you obviously had to calm and let him know.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'll touch on that one.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
We It was actually a really kind of perfect situation,
I decided to take one of the craziest trips.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I've took in my life.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Actually, I went straight from Fiji all the way to
Outer Banks, and the day that I got to the
Outer Banks, we had a family wedding, so it was
like a full twenty four to thirty hour travel to
get there. And the morning I got there, I got
in the car with my dad and my two sisters
and we drove to my cousin's wedding, which probably is
a terrible idea to show up to a wedding after
(11:57):
getting dumped and getting engaged.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I didn't realize that until I was at the ceremony,
like this was kind of stupid.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
But he was so supportive, so were my sisters.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
They were just again I think, highlighting how amazing experience
it was for me, how much they saw me grow
through it. I couldn't have changed one thing about that,
because it just was that jump start of me getting
back to feeling like me and getting back to where
I needed to. And if I just went back to
my place in Hawaii by myself, I don't think I
would have been in the same place that I was.
(12:28):
So they were just in my corner, and it was.
It was a really great time to be able to
spend with family for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, I feel like that's all you can really do
is surround yourself with family. Maybe not at a wedding,
but you know, if you have to be at a wedding,
you have to be that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You can't change it. That was the timing, and it was.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I feel like, that's like perfect, Like if if I'm
heartbroken and I need to move on, I feel like
being around people you love and then going to a
wedding and celebrating love and having fun and drinking, I.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Feel like drinking. No, it was perfect. It was. It
was definitely not something you would think was a good idea,
but then it was perfect at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And Joey he did that first family, he really did too.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And that's where I flauded for that because we're he's
one of ten grandchildren and this is the first time
and got his how many years at all of them
were able to be together and they were upset that
Joy wasn't going to be there because we had no
idea when he could make it, and he did.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Two red eyes.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I mean, what do you I was just like he
poor poor guys got out him, like are you alive?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I felt.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
So there's a picture of me and Carly at that wedding,
and I'm not kidding. I think it looks like I'm
having a stroke on the left side of my face.
I have like a jack and coke and hand and
like one side awake and one side to sleep, and
it is. It was not a pretty sight. I think
I lasted un till about like ten o'clock of that wedding.
I did not shut that wedding down all.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I can't even imagine. I remember when I got home,
it was just my dad at home. My mom and
my sister were away, and he'll say, he's like, you
looked crazy when you showed up at the house, Like
you just looked like you'd been through something. You were
like riddled with anxiety. I was just like, you need
a drink, you need to chill out, like your your home.
(14:09):
It's fine.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yeah, no, it was. It was definitely a different atmosphere,
but it worked out and it was perfect at the
end of the day.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Nice. When I I went nick I I got sent
home night one on the Bachhorette when I was first
on it, and I didn't. I didn't sleep at all
because you know, you stay up all night, so I'm
up till late in the morning, and then I get
and it just get right on a flight home to Chicago,
and that day was Saint Patrick's day in Chicago, and
the line around the bar was crazy, and I walked
(14:38):
up to the to the bouncer and I'm like, she's
like the lines back there. I'm like, I was just
on the Bachelor. I didn't get a rose first night
she opened the ropen let me right in and I was.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Immediately gets home and he's using it day one.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
How could I take advantage of this?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, you got to home nay one, So you know, yeah,
I had every right to thank you, thank you. But okay,
so charity season is over, You go through recovery surrounded
by the support of your family, then tell us about
the call you get to become potentially the Bachelor, and
then what was that conversation like between the two of you.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was talked about pretty
early on.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I don't exactly know when, but my dad was definitely
of the people I talked to about it. If he
thought it was a good idea. I mean you can
speak on that that which you remember, but I know
you and Carly were the first people that I really
call about that.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah you know, yeah, definitely think that too.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
And seeing what he went through, obviously knowing that he
had the time to, you know, really go through the
loss that you know he had experienced, and my attitude
was like, this is you know, you get to be
in a drive receipt.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean this is kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's why I looked at it like this is good.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I mean this is something where what I had not
gone through, and I think that's where we're really were
we were in this for his Bachelor season was having
gone through everything with Charity in that season and seeing
that this process really does work and seeing that it
is real help me understand like absolutely, like you need
to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
This is something you've got to do for yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Would either were there any signs you are looking for
that would let you know that Joey was ready? Like
when you say time, like like like some people could
get over a situation like that in two weeks and
some people it might take a year. So knowing that
you know your son, what was it that you felt
(16:33):
that he was ready.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, you know part of the smart guy that went
went to WHI went back to why It's like do
that What a great place to get over something, I mean,
really take time and really do that. And knowing having
the conversations we have to joe just he is and
again what I praised him for it He's just so
in touch with himself, so I know he expresses everything
he's feeling. And then understanding that, you know, maturity for him,
(16:56):
because he is very I mean emotionally mature. So it's
like just seeing that and knowing that what he experienced
kind of talk through. Yeah, he had his heartwork and
we talked about that, you know, and do you think
you're ready for something else? So that's something where you know,
I knew that he was ready to, you know, put
himself out there again, you know, be give one hundred
percent to basically find someone and definitely you know that
(17:19):
having that, having him really express that and understand it
just about how I know him made it easy first
to say, yeah, this would be good for you.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Were those some of the same reasons that it was
so easy to support Joey going on the show the
first time, and then back on it the second time,
despite the heartbreak, because I do feel like a lot
of parents have major reservations about their kid going on
the show, and there does seem to be this kind
of like unwavering support for him going on this journey.
(17:50):
Would you say it's because he's kind of like so
in tune with his emotions in himself and there's that
trust there.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, honestly, it really is. And because he expresses it,
you know, And that's the part that's so great. You
hear it, you know what, and he is you see
it even and they did this through casting, you know,
when he was when they were filming. It's like he
doesn't know how to hide his emotions, his space, his
face based there is no point. Don't play poker. Well
played poker with Joey if you want to win.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I guess exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's the way.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's an easy target.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
D I think he knew.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
He knew when I got back it was going to
take a little bit of time, But I was calling
him every week, and I think it's just through time
he saw it. There was Hawaii was helping, Time was helping, understanding,
and there was a good between that we had to
be able to talk through it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Nick, what were your secrets because Joey, I think was
said to be maybe the most emotionally mature bachelor we've
ever had, and as a parent, like you had to
have some influence on that, Like what what'd you do?
Because I don't even think I'm I'm even there yet.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It's a.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right I know, right, trust me, I think he's beyond
me my son.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Quite frankly, you know, honestly, it's more like it's coming
from you know, obviously a little bit of our history.
I don't know if you do, but it's like being
a divorce being a kid in a divorced family. You know,
it could be a bad experience, it could be something
that really, you know, traumatizes somebody, or it's something that
ends up being something that really learned from. And quite honestly,
(19:19):
Joey's been in a world where he is, you know,
been with it. We've been connected from obviously since he's
been born divorced at young.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean I was divorcing.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
He was only gosh, he was like almost five, not
even five yet, you know, So I was not living
in the home, but I was always there. And then
he moved he moved to another area, like three years
later he moved up to Pennsylvania. That's when they ended
up here. So we always kept in touch, but that part,
and I've learned this to him. I speaking with my
kids because I do this to this day. I always
ask them like I feel There's times I feel so bad,
(19:51):
like did I mess things up? I feel so bad
that I put you through that. But honestly, the takeaway
that I've gotten from them is my kids are who
they are today, not in spite of the position we've
put them in. But it's because of that and having
two different parents to bounce ideas off. And Joey's been
lucky to have almost three because you know, Big Joe
johe Andy, his uncle is almost like that other guy
(20:11):
who's there, and Joey's counsels. He always it's funny because
he's really grown into that person because of Joe too,
and being exposed to so much. And that's really what
it is. It's everything he's been exposed to. Really that's
made of who he is. It's not just one parent.
It's not you know, it's almost like three separate homes.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So yeah, can I ask you how difficult. Was it
for you to come out having three children and being married?
Can you touch on that at all? Do you feel comfortable?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, that's fine, absolutely, no, not a pro at all.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, it was difficult, absolutely, and it was you know,
on top of that, and this is what I've struggled with.
But I think on top of that to his mother
knew that's when my ex wife was recently diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
With MSS, so that was a lot too.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
So on top of that, making that decision and then
her getting sick was hard too, because I'm like, what
am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This is not fair.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
But at the same time, I didn't want my kids
to live in a home where the parents the parents
weren't I mean, I love my ex wife, I love
Kathy still to this day, but it's just like that
happiness wasn't going to be there and it was unfair
to them, and I wanted them to grow up in
a home that they were happy. So but it's still hard,
you know, it was hard. Definitely was. It wasn't easy,
but it was you know, to me, it was like
(21:33):
the goal was for them. I really didn't want them
to live in that. I didn't want them to live
in an environment where people weren't really truthful and telling,
you know, living that Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, what was that conversation? I mean, I know Joey
was so young. Joey, you're the middle child, right, yeah,
middle child. So what were those conversations like with your
kids when the divorce happened and then maybe when they
were old enough to know a little bit more details
about what.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Happened, conversations where they were Kathy was great about all this,
honestly with them. She was great too. She was you know,
through this whole thing, you know, and she's had she
It was more because being the mother, I think when
your kids are young, it's a lot usier for the
mother to talk a little bit Carly. And we talked
to Carly, both of us did talk to part at
the same time. She was also she was older, she
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was seven seven eight years old, so that was different.
Just kind of just said Dad's not going to be here.
That type of conversation, you know, Joey didn't you know
more that Joey being younger kind of did.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
There wasn't much there just later on.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And I will, you know, and that's where that conversation
my daughter Cary this way the kids are my daughter
Kathy has been. She's my Joey's mom just was before
getting able to extremely a well, very good business woman,
very very bright, you know, awesome at her job and
everything and just really gave the kids great things and
how to, you know, how to look at things differently.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So we've learned a lot there.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
But as far as the conversation with them, honestly, it
was more it's pretty like in the begin and then Joey,
I think, joybody, I think you were ten when you
kind of figured it out.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So I don't even know. I don't know when I
actually fully figured out. I still try to think back
how old I was, But yeah, I would say I
don't remember that conversation either. I know we were really young.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
I think it was more Mom that told us that
we're going to see more on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And then the move happened.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I knew they weren't together anymore, but I didn't necessarily
understand why, And those conversations probably came later on in life,
and when I did fully understand it, I think a
lot more started to come together. As I always said,
I think it made me more of an understanding person
and to touch on what my dad was talking about too,
about how he obviously you can tell, doesn't give himself
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any credit for any emotional intelligence that I have. My
whole family, especially on my dad's side, is extremely loving,
extremely open. The one thing that they taught us really
really early on, especially through something difficult as divorce, is
you never stop loving on your family like they have
always been open and loving. If you've met my ants
and all these other people on that side, like the
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affection they show is it's it's it's almost too much sometimes.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
So it's just it's how they are.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
And I think that was very obviously at a young
age that was really okay to express emotions. I think
that's what my dad's taught me the most throughout our lives.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Wow, I've been I've been really keeping my emotions for
a lot. I really do. I gotta. I gotta get
invited to one of these webs That's great, Okay, so
let's let's pivot back to now, let's go to Joey's
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hometowns as the Bachelor and Nick. Now, let's just talk
about you meeting Daisy and Kelsey. What do you what
are your initial thoughts on both of those women?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Both you know, both amazing women.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know, my when I met both of them in
the takeway that day was like, no matter what, either
women amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So that was like happy about Joey's your decision.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You know, that was very very easy to say that
to my son and let him know this is in
you and whatever you decide is a great decision.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Honestly, that must have been a relief that.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Oh yes, yes, that was definitely. That was definitely a
relief for me. They're both in their own ways, they're both,
you know, incredible women. Honestly, I will say one thing,
so this is my takeaway and this is something I
did share and it kind of ties to Charity season
where Daisy was with joe one day when you first
met Daisy sat with Joey. We talked again, impressed as
a family were sitting there in the body language was
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just okay, and had the conversation with her and then
I kind of was I was let down a little
bit because I was like, Okay, not what I saw
with Cheery because when they sat down they were like
I saw it. I was like, these people really care
for each other. Well, then in comes Kelsey. She lights
up the room. Sits down with Joey and they were
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like two kids on the couch, sitting there.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like on top.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I'm like, okay, finally, I'm like, thank god, I saw this.
That's really what my response was, I really was. It
was just like it was like, oh, thank goodness. So
you know that in hindsight, that's what I looked at
and realized that. So when his decision was Kelsey, then
you know, obviously she's amazing. So it was exciting and
it was happy for him.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, you don't want to be saying and being like
can we bring back charity?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Not right?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Honestly, it was like so you know, just seeing it,
you're just like wow, because I was like, I realized
this does work.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And then you saw that change, and I was like,
wait a minute, I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
With leaving that day where if you were going to
put a bet on it, were you pretty sure it
was going to be Kelsey? Just based on those interactions.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I think, you know, I think in my mind, yes,
I'm waiting. The weight was more towards However, we part
of us is like making sure Joey's making a thoughtful decision, right,
So we're all we're both all of us myself currently,
I think talking to I said listen, just I know,
because we learned later on that Daisy was kind of
expression she didn't at that time. She didn't express enough
to Joey. So we're like, well, make sure he knows
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how you feel, because I don't think he does and
we can't. We were supporting that at the end. So
when I left him thinking like, well, I hope I
didn't make him change his mind, and I was like,
I think it will be Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But did we make him rethink this? So that was
what I was a little concerned with.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
And then this would have been probably your third time
in front of the cameras, because I know they filmed
like the packages for the bachel and everything like that.
Did you feel more comfortable this third and final time
doing the hometowns? Like, Okay, I've kind of warmed up
to this, I know what to expect.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I guess more comfortable. It was so hot though.
That was the hardest part of it.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
But it was so hot, so and I really was
not excited about how I looked on CD. I looked
at this front the old man, So I wasn't very
happy with hot film. But it's all right, So I
let that one go. I was like, oh, Joe, I
look so bad. But again, it wasn't about me, it
was about you. It was all right, So Joe, Joey
definitely more comfortable. It's almost like you don't by that time,
you don't even see the cameras. Definitely, you're right, Yeah,
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you get used to it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Joey.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Did you did you have any like subtle little hints
that you would let your family and know, like I'm
choosing Kelsey.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
I think the one thing I was told by both
my dad and my sisters, especially my mom even caught
up on it too, I think.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Was I would describe Kelsey in a different way.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
And I think, if I'm being pletely honest, at that time,
I didn't even know how much I was doing it.
I knew I was leaning more towards Kelsey because I
thought we were in a different spot at that time.
But like I was, as much as everyone was telling me,
trying to stay open, trying to wait and see this
full process through. But I just I know, as people
have seen, I'm not very good at hiding my emotions
from time to time. So if I was feeling a
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certain type of way, I think my sisters when they
had a break upstairs, both looked at each other and
said Kelsey at the same time, like because they felt
it from after how I talked about each of them,
So I think there was little subtle hints.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
But I will say I can tell us for all.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
My family, especially my dad, each of those women said
that when they left that day they felt supported by
my family, And I know that can be very rare
in that setting because they're kind of, you know, trying
to get to the bottom of this woman really here
for him? Are they someone that I can actually be
a good person for my son? Both my parents, my
dad especially, and my sisters and my mom, they were
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just all so loving to the girls, and I think
that's I don't know. I was very proud to hear
those conversations later on and know that they just like
they were who they were, and I was really proud
to hear that.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, love those girls. Yeah they were both. They were
both great. What were you hoping for or expecting from
the conversation with your dad at that final like meet
the family pocket and then what were you hoping from
his conversations with the women?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I was hoping again because it's no different. On the
lead side. I needed my support. I haven't been able
to talk to my dad for two months at that time.
I wanted that support. I want him to feel and
give me that reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.
So that's what I was looking for more than anything else.
Was just the person that's always been there for me
and for the women. I was looking for him to
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get a feel on if there was something that I
was missing. I don't think that's a wrong thing for
anyone to want during this time, is to feel if
your family members see or hears something that you're not catching.
As we both said, both the women were amazing, So
there wasn't really anything I was expecting me here, but
that was what I was looking for.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
From the conversation, Nick, for future hometown parents, what advice
would you give them.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
I would say, you know, trust your child, I mean
trust your child and their decision and let him know
that it is their decision. And I would say, really
understand that this process example here, it does work.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
But I think you've heard that.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
You know, people say a lot of time, but I
think they need to understand that they're engrossed. You know,
you know, engrossed in this twenty per seven, they have
no this is what they live for. They basically you
convinced like almost a year's worth of relationship until like
that short two to three months where verse seven they're
with that person, So they really have had an opportunity
to really get to know them. And you know, and
(31:06):
I think just you know, from parents' point of view,
you know you know your child. Hopefully you do. I mean,
you know you're to well enough to know if it's
true or not. And I think the example too with
even Kelsey and her dad. I mean, she told her
dad like she loved Joey before she told Joey. It's like,
you know, it's just like that's because he has a
good relationship with his daughter, and it's like if that
relationship's there, I mean, you know your kid.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know, you know your child.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
So definitely support them the best you can make them
know that the decision is there. Definitely that that's the
biggest part.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think that's the best advice you can.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, that's great advice. Joey. I know that you did
open up and talk about your parents' divorce and the
reasons behind it on Charity Season. I think a lot
of people wondered why that wasn't a part of your
story as the Bachelor. What would you say to answer
those questions like was it talked about, was it something
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you were engaging with the women about, did you pull
back for privacy? What would Yeah, I don't know why,
I'm giving you a list of options.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'm sorry I do that.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
No, I do know for a fact that was talked about,
especially to the women that went farther through the process
you touch more on family and your relationship. I would
say that what I think a lot of leads deal
with that. It's kind of almost a fault that sometimes
I kind of expected everyone already knew, right because you
think everyone watched Charity Season, So I was like, Oh,
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everyone already.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Knows about my family dynamic and I can build off it.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
But I don't have to get that same, you know,
story all over again, because that was something I really
thought through and wanted to make sure it was done
correctly when I had that time on Charity Season, and
you know, looking back on it, I do wish it
was maybe something that was a part of the hometown
package that we touched on more because it is something
that describes and explains who I am, and it's also
a beautiful story that I think that shows how loving
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our family is that how we navigated something like that.
But I really think at a fault, I just expected
everyone knew and didn't realize that there's a whole different
audience that only tuned into our season that didn't even
watch Charity.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
So there's probably a lot everyone knew.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
But it's crazy because there will be people that are
probably tuning into this and for some reason, never knew
until today that my dad's gay. And that's something that
I will never hide, never be ashamed of, want the
world to know because it makes him more of a
special person, doesn't change anything about him. I just think
it was a fault of thinking that everyone knew because
they tuned into Charity season.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
In my mind, yeah, that's totally fair, and I think
that it's a compliment that the people that did watch
you on Charity Season wanted to hear more about who
you are and your story and why you're the way
they are. Nick, you obviously didn't go on the show
as a contestant. How did it feel though, knowing that
such a big part of your life was gonna be
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shared through your son.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean it was fun, honestly, and knowing again how
he how he talks about things and how he handles things,
I mean, I was fine and it was yeah, because
he was concerned that and I what, I do appreciate
the fact that the franchise too is great about really
saying I hope that I just you know, your father's
okay with this and in really caring about that, that's awesome,
you know, and to me, And honestly, it's like that
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to me.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
I know to some people it's a big thing, but
it's like BEINGKA doesn't define who I am as a person.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
So it's like, it's fine. It's just that's that's the
preference to.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Whatever, such a preference however you want to look at it,
but it's not I'm who I am.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's like I'm this person. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
And people and I think the good takeer was that
a lot of good came out of that and people
appreciating that. So that's the plus to support, you know,
to support the gay people out there. But again to me,
it's I wasn't concerned at all. It's like, this is
my boy. I know he would never talk ill of me,
and I knew that he didn't have an issue with it,
so it's.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Easy nice love that. Well, I think, uh yeah, I
mean overall, great story. I mean you guys, Joey, I
thought you handled yourself wonderful on the show, but I
also think you're kind of a dick.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So you know, yeah, you'll say it. My dad's like
all we got stories for that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Let's ring.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I love to have you guys back.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
But overall, Nick, overall watching your son navigate this whole
process and go through everything, what would you say you're
most proud of him for?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm just I would say, and I kind of do.
We talked a lot too.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It was like every time I saw anything about him,
I'm like I would be every time I saw him,
I was like more proud of every day. It's like
just and it's so crazy to say that, yes, he's
my son, but it's just like I'm just like I
was impressed, like who is this kid?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm like this guy.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
It's like I was just impressed with how we really
handled himself, how we navigate things, how he you know,
how he made the women know that he was in
it for the right reason. How he how he let
what a very part about, how he made every woman
understand like all their feelings were, he understood them, he
let them express that he was there. And of course
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we can't forget the seer white. You know, that's what
Joey thinks. So that was the best part.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
There's Joey. So it's like, but you know, honestly, the
way he navigated.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
That, his interaction with the other women, I would say,
is what I'm most proud of, because he knew what
it was like and he didn't want anybody to Obviously
they're gonna get hurt.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
But his caring, his care for.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
The women on the show and in their emotions and
you know, and leaving them was you know, is I guess.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Would be what I'm most proud of.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
So I've always and I've I've talked to my own
parents about this, but I'm curious. You know, you see
your son as your child, your side, You see him
in certain aspects of his life on a regular basis.
Was it unusual to watch and see him in potentially
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a new light as this adult man watching his like
intimate romantic relationships unfold. I mean, like I've said to
my parents, like you would never have seen the moments
between me and my now husband that you did had
we not met on TV, and you would never really
know that, Like that's how I acted within the confines
of a relationship. Was that ever surprising or uncomfortable for you?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I think because I'm a guy and it's my son,
then no. I mean if it was if it was
my daughter, yeah, different story, absolutely. I mean that's honestly,
I think that was a big difference. But him very
you know, he was he was Joey.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It was good.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
It was actually happy for him, honestly, So it didn't
be absolutely if it was like your parents looking at you,
I'd be like, totally different story. Like I don't know
if I can handle this to watch this, you know,
it's like, please trust me. You charity different from then
I did Joey Weiser and Joey, and like it seemed
different for her than.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Joey, So I get it.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah that's fair, Joey. Nick. Thank you guys so much.
We really appreciate you coming on. Nick. You are our
first parent we've had on this podcast. Well actually probably
not first parent, but like first parent of a bachelor.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
First.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Thank you guys, so much. It was great and to
all our listeners, thank you guys. Make sure you stay
tuned in. We have exclusive interviews coming every week and
we love you guys.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yep, don't forget to subscribe and thanks for listening. Bye
bye
Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bacheler Happy Hour. I'm Joe
and I'm Serena, and we are here with our most
frequented guest, the best Bachelor of all time, Joey is
here and he brought his father along with him. Nick,
Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
This is so exciting because Joey is a Happy Hour regular.
He's been on this podcast maybe more than anyone else.
And Nick, you're the first parent that we've ever had,
and we've actually talked.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm a little nervous, are you nervous?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We have in parent parents are the house, but we've
actually talked about how it would be so interesting to
have a parent on because you guys have such a
different experience than us as contestants. I mean, we know
our parents have a lot to say about the show
and the journeys. So we're really excited to talk to
you today.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm excited as well.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Where where do you currently live?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And where where are you from?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I am from I'm born and raised at Central New
York and lived in Florida for thirty plus years. That's
where Joey was born and recently relocated to. I came
to Philadelphia, actually Phoenixville, where the one you know, my
daughter Carly lives, and since one I have you know,
Joey was in Tawai. Carly's in Philly, and my other
(01:30):
daughter's in Texas, and I was in Florida. So when
Carly was married, I figured I'd been. I figured she
wasn't going anywhere, so let me move close to at
least one of my kids.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There you go, and then hopefully the grandkids come.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Soun no rush for good though, well I can't. I
can't say that's so get mad at me. But I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I have a grand dog, she has a girl, little
Harper's or my grandkid.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Right now, there you go, a grandpuppy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And what do you do for a living?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I worked for actually where for company where helping seniors
kind of and their caregivers find the best solution for
their families and placement for them.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I worked for a company doing that right.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Now, nice, How did you get into that?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Actually?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I wanted I found you know, I came from it
was I was working when I moved from Florida. I
was working actually with some doctors, and then this opportunity
came across my desk, which I was more interested in
because instead of helping the hospitals and the doctors, I
was able to help the families more. And and I
do have a mother who was in assisted living as well,
so it kind of definitely held the place near and there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
To my heart.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so now let's talk about let's talk about Joey
boy over here. You know, this is weird because none
of these questions really are directed to you, Joey.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You're just there.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Be in trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, So, Nick, what was your initial reaction when Joey
came to you and told you that he was going
on the Bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
What are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Kidding?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It was good actually, you know, knowing my son and
I want it was kind of happened when I was
in Hawaii with him, which was pretty ironic. I was
visiting him in January when they started and just kind
of that's when things started, and he figured he was
given a shot, nothing to lose, and I thought it
was great.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I thought it was I thought it was a cool opportunity.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Uh, you know, I thought it'd be great for him
because I know it's hard where he lived in Hawaii
to meet you know, meet women and really you know,
find someone there. So I think this was I thought
it was a good option for him and a good
opportunity to kind of see what's out there.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
I actually totally forgot about that he was there for
that phone call, so I obviously the DM was what
I talked about.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I got d M back in like I think it
was early January.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
But when he was there was when I first got
a call from the casting like starting the process.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
He was with me on the beach in Hawaii and
that happened.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, that's crazy. Had you ever watched the show or
what was your knowledge of the show when do I
got that call?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Watched you know, beginning probably the first season, maybe you know,
many many moons ago as the old man here, But yeah,
did you know it was interesting?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know a little bit not getting I.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Will say no the question follows, but not until I
was in it that I really understand it. But you know, initially,
you know, just kind of look at is a reality
TV show, it's just real whatever, And then seeing what transpired,
I was pretty amazed, actually, and actually was very impressed
with how everything was handled.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Joey when you two had that conversation, when you got
that call, what did you think the odds were that
you were actually going to get casted? At that point?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I thought it was definitely unique that someone reached out
to me, but I also understood that there was hundreds
and hundreds of people at that time that they were
talking to. So I put it out of solid fifty
to fifty. But my dad was really supportive. He's downgrading it.
He was probably the easiest person to talk to about it.
That didn't make it seem like it was so far
fetched to do something like this. He's always been like
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my big issues, like support with all these types of things,
and it was it was nice to have him there
when I was trying to wrap my head around that
fifty to fifty opportunity.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What was your hope for Joey when he then got
cast and went on charity season?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
And honestly, I wanted him to first, like about a
show with my swan, to be present, you know, enjoy
the experience, you know, take away what he could from it. Meet,
you know, meet some new people. Meet obviously to meet
a woman that might be the right person for him.
So really just it was more just you know, excited
for him for the experience, because that was a great opportunity,
just something new.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Did you have any concerns or worries about what could
potentially happen with him, like heartbreak or anything like that humiliation?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I know, you're right. Yeah, you're right, and we
think about that.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
But honestly, because Joey and I have had we do
have a good relationship, and he's open about everything with me,
and we do talk about everything, and you know, he
has amazed me. You know, before he went on the show,
I was impressed with my son as far as how
he really, you know, just because he's talked to me
about other relationships and just how in tune with himself,
how he's very self aware and the kind of guy
(06:05):
he is where he really does you know, he's always
wants to be better, but he's always in check with himself.
So I kind of was, you know, not concerned about
the heartbreak so much, but I knew that he'd handle
it well and know how to navigate his feelings.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Got it okay. So he ends up getting his heart broken,
he ends up going I'll eat on basically making it
to hometowns. So you get that call a like what's
your initial reaction? Are you shocked? And then how do
you feel that you're gonna now also be on television?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, the second part not's so great, but first part
was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It was exciting, you know, it was kind of great
that he made that far and was so excited to
meet you know, to meet charity like this would be
very cool, like let's find out what this is all about.
So that worked, you know, obviously, no one I think
we all. I'm sure you guys are doing it, but
first of all, being on TM like not so much,
but again, do anything for my son. So I sucked
it up and it was good, actually exciting, and it
(07:09):
was actually amazing just to see how everything developed too
when the crew came.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
No, I know how that feels like that forst Like,
you know, my first experience in front of the cameras
on the show, I was like an actual nervous wreck,
Like it took me multiple actual shows, took me years
to get like somewhat comfortable. So I can't imagine having
to have like a real conversation with your son who's
(07:34):
basically telling you like, I'm in love with this girl
and I'm probably gonna get down on one knee. And
you're also internally a nervous wreck because you have seven
cameras in your face.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So it's tough too, because like I still remember that
day back when I walked into that house and I
realized that I just put my whole.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Family into this experience and they didn't sign up for that.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I did, so that whole Like, I remember the first
conversation with each of them, the first five minutes you
spend like are you good, Like is this okay?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Are you comfortable?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Because you feel for them that they didn't sign up
to be in front of cameras and they just kind
of got thrown into it just because you made it
to the top four of this entire experience.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
It is such a trip because you're isolated filming this show.
You can't talk to each other, and then all of
a sudden, it's like worlds collide and like your family
has been plopped in that environment. I remember my hometown
Nate just looking at them and them looking at me,
and everyone being like this is weird, Like what have
we all gotten ourselves into here? Joey, how did you
(08:34):
think your dad would be? Because like, obviously you knew
he was coming. You knew you you know, Okay, hometowns
is coming up. I've made it. You're imagining your family
showing up. How do you think your dad would be?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
He was exactly what I expected.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
He's kind of as a lot of people say that,
I'm a calming person for a lot of people, That's
what my dad is a lot of times for me.
He just kind of gets me in a lot of
ways and can kind of center me back and explain
that he's proud out of me and whatever happens, you're
going to do great. And I think I I knew
there was going to be tough conversations going into that
where I need to almost like I don't want to
say it convinced, but you know what I mean, where
(09:09):
you have to like get them to believe that this
could actually work and that I'm doing the best that
I could. And he was probably the only person I
walked in the conversation didn't have any nerves about that.
So I knew he was just going to be supportive
and and really be there for me because he knew.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
This was a crazy time, and then Nick on the flip,
how did you think Joey was going to be and
was he what you expected?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, you know, honestly, he came in like just big smiles, honestly,
and that just right there, you just got it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's like, this is really, this is good. You know,
I knew he was in a good place.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
So that was really that was very positive, so very
easy to like work with him and know that you know,
he's he's doing something that it's gone, well, let's say,
you know, and it's who's good you know, is he was?
He was great too because he's helping all of us
and not be nervous, like listen, just you can use
to the cameras being there, all that stuff would happen
and they were like, yeah, okay, there's like eight of
them on me and it's like you're looking around, but
he you know, him coming in and just honestly, the
(10:03):
crazy part is, yeah, I haven't seen him for a while.
And then just seeing him with Charity walk in and
you're like, oh, hey, this is real. So it was
a little you know, that was definitely, you know, that
was interesting to say.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
What these.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
When you when you guys left and you left Joey,
how hopeful were you or where did you think his
relationship was going to go with Charity? Did you think
he was going to end up with her?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know, i'd say yes, actually really did that.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
How they looked at each other, how they communicated to us,
both of them, you know, they were real emotions. It
was very sincere, you know, and you know saying did
I think yes, more hopeful, I would say hopeful that
he did, you know, end up with Charity as you
know that part too, And I think we all walked
away where really, you know, with I think we went through.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What Joey did. Alm was it was like what if
she does hick him?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I mean we all had that reaction or we're like, wait,
this may not happen, but we're hopeful, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, well spoiler alert, she didn't pick out Ye sad
ending for our boy Joey. How did it feel coming
home and then hearing you know, hey it didn't work
out dad?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I guess what was the conversation between YouTube Joey.
I mean you obviously had to calm and let him know.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'll touch on that one.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
We It was actually a really kind of perfect situation,
I decided to take one of the craziest trips.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I've took in my life.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Actually, I went straight from Fiji all the way to
Outer Banks, and the day that I got to the
Outer Banks, we had a family wedding, so it was
like a full twenty four to thirty hour travel to
get there. And the morning I got there, I got
in the car with my dad and my two sisters
and we drove to my cousin's wedding, which probably is
a terrible idea to show up to a wedding after
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getting dumped and getting engaged.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I didn't realize that until I was at the ceremony,
like this was kind of stupid.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
But he was so supportive, so were my sisters.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
They were just again I think, highlighting how amazing experience
it was for me, how much they saw me grow
through it. I couldn't have changed one thing about that,
because it just was that jump start of me getting
back to feeling like me and getting back to where
I needed to. And if I just went back to
my place in Hawaii by myself, I don't think I
would have been in the same place that I was.
(12:28):
So they were just in my corner, and it was.
It was a really great time to be able to
spend with family for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, I feel like that's all you can really do
is surround yourself with family. Maybe not at a wedding,
but you know, if you have to be at a wedding,
you have to be that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You can't change it. That was the timing, and it was.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I feel like, that's like perfect, Like if if I'm
heartbroken and I need to move on, I feel like
being around people you love and then going to a
wedding and celebrating love and having fun and drinking, I.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Feel like drinking. No, it was perfect. It was. It
was definitely not something you would think was a good idea,
but then it was perfect at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And Joey he did that first family, he really did too.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And that's where I flauded for that because we're he's
one of ten grandchildren and this is the first time
and got his how many years at all of them
were able to be together and they were upset that
Joy wasn't going to be there because we had no
idea when he could make it, and he did.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Two red eyes.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I mean, what do you I was just like he
poor poor guys got out him, like are you alive?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I felt.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
So there's a picture of me and Carly at that wedding,
and I'm not kidding. I think it looks like I'm
having a stroke on the left side of my face.
I have like a jack and coke and hand and
like one side awake and one side to sleep, and
it is. It was not a pretty sight. I think
I lasted un till about like ten o'clock of that wedding.
I did not shut that wedding down all.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I can't even imagine. I remember when I got home,
it was just my dad at home. My mom and
my sister were away, and he'll say, he's like, you
looked crazy when you showed up at the house, Like
you just looked like you'd been through something. You were
like riddled with anxiety. I was just like, you need
a drink, you need to chill out, like your your home.
(14:09):
It's fine.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yeah, no, it was. It was definitely a different atmosphere,
but it worked out and it was perfect at the
end of the day.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Nice. When I I went nick I I got sent
home night one on the Bachhorette when I was first
on it, and I didn't. I didn't sleep at all
because you know, you stay up all night, so I'm
up till late in the morning, and then I get
and it just get right on a flight home to Chicago,
and that day was Saint Patrick's day in Chicago, and
the line around the bar was crazy, and I walked
(14:38):
up to the to the bouncer and I'm like, she's
like the lines back there. I'm like, I was just
on the Bachelor. I didn't get a rose first night
she opened the ropen let me right in and I was.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Immediately gets home and he's using it day one.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
How could I take advantage of this?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, you got to home nay one, So you know, yeah,
I had every right to thank you, thank you. But okay,
so charity season is over, You go through recovery surrounded
by the support of your family, then tell us about
the call you get to become potentially the Bachelor, and
then what was that conversation like between the two of you.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was talked about pretty
early on.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
I don't exactly know when, but my dad was definitely
of the people I talked to about it. If he
thought it was a good idea. I mean you can
speak on that that which you remember, but I know
you and Carly were the first people that I really
call about that.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah you know, yeah, definitely think that too.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
And seeing what he went through, obviously knowing that he
had the time to, you know, really go through the
loss that you know he had experienced, and my attitude
was like, this is you know, you get to be
in a drive receipt.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean this is kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's why I looked at it like this is good.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I mean this is something where what I had not
gone through, and I think that's where we're really were
we were in this for his Bachelor season was having
gone through everything with Charity in that season and seeing
that this process really does work and seeing that it
is real help me understand like absolutely, like you need
to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
This is something you've got to do for yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Would either were there any signs you are looking for
that would let you know that Joey was ready? Like
when you say time, like like like some people could
get over a situation like that in two weeks and
some people it might take a year. So knowing that
you know your son, what was it that you felt
(16:33):
that he was ready.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, you know part of the smart guy that went
went to WHI went back to why It's like do
that What a great place to get over something, I mean,
really take time and really do that. And knowing having
the conversations we have to joe just he is and
again what I praised him for it He's just so
in touch with himself, so I know he expresses everything
he's feeling. And then understanding that, you know, maturity for him,
(16:56):
because he is very I mean emotionally mature. So it's
like just seeing that and knowing that what he experienced
kind of talk through. Yeah, he had his heartwork and
we talked about that, you know, and do you think
you're ready for something else? So that's something where you know,
I knew that he was ready to, you know, put
himself out there again, you know, be give one hundred
percent to basically find someone and definitely you know that
(17:19):
having that, having him really express that and understand it
just about how I know him made it easy first
to say, yeah, this would be good for you.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Were those some of the same reasons that it was
so easy to support Joey going on the show the
first time, and then back on it the second time,
despite the heartbreak, because I do feel like a lot
of parents have major reservations about their kid going on
the show, and there does seem to be this kind
of like unwavering support for him going on this journey.
(17:50):
Would you say it's because he's kind of like so
in tune with his emotions in himself and there's that
trust there.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, honestly, it really is. And because he expresses it,
you know, And that's the part that's so great. You
hear it, you know what, and he is you see
it even and they did this through casting, you know,
when he was when they were filming. It's like he
doesn't know how to hide his emotions, his space, his
face based there is no point. Don't play poker. Well
played poker with Joey if you want to win.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I guess exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's the way.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's an easy target.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
D I think he knew.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
He knew when I got back it was going to
take a little bit of time, But I was calling
him every week, and I think it's just through time
he saw it. There was Hawaii was helping, Time was helping, understanding,
and there was a good between that we had to
be able to talk through it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Nick, what were your secrets because Joey, I think was
said to be maybe the most emotionally mature bachelor we've
ever had, and as a parent, like you had to
have some influence on that, Like what what'd you do?
Because I don't even think I'm I'm even there yet.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It's a.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right I know, right, trust me, I think he's beyond
me my son.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Quite frankly, you know, honestly, it's more like it's coming
from you know, obviously a little bit of our history.
I don't know if you do, but it's like being
a divorce being a kid in a divorced family. You know,
it could be a bad experience, it could be something
that really, you know, traumatizes somebody, or it's something that
ends up being something that really learned from. And quite honestly,
(19:19):
Joey's been in a world where he is, you know,
been with it. We've been connected from obviously since he's
been born divorced at young.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean I was divorcing.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
He was only gosh, he was like almost five, not
even five yet, you know, So I was not living
in the home, but I was always there. And then
he moved he moved to another area, like three years
later he moved up to Pennsylvania. That's when they ended
up here. So we always kept in touch, but that part,
and I've learned this to him. I speaking with my
kids because I do this to this day. I always
ask them like I feel There's times I feel so bad,
(19:51):
like did I mess things up? I feel so bad
that I put you through that. But honestly, the takeaway
that I've gotten from them is my kids are who
they are today, not in spite of the position we've
put them in. But it's because of that and having
two different parents to bounce ideas off. And Joey's been
lucky to have almost three because you know, Big Joe
johe Andy, his uncle is almost like that other guy
(20:11):
who's there, and Joey's counsels. He always it's funny because
he's really grown into that person because of Joe too,
and being exposed to so much. And that's really what
it is. It's everything he's been exposed to. Really that's
made of who he is. It's not just one parent.
It's not you know, it's almost like three separate homes.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So yeah, can I ask you how difficult. Was it
for you to come out having three children and being married?
Can you touch on that at all? Do you feel comfortable?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, that's fine, absolutely, no, not a pro at all.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, it was difficult, absolutely, and it was you know,
on top of that, and this is what I've struggled with.
But I think on top of that to his mother
knew that's when my ex wife was recently diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
With MSS, so that was a lot too.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
So on top of that, making that decision and then
her getting sick was hard too, because I'm like, what
am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This is not fair.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
But at the same time, I didn't want my kids
to live in a home where the parents the parents
weren't I mean, I love my ex wife, I love
Kathy still to this day, but it's just like that
happiness wasn't going to be there and it was unfair
to them, and I wanted them to grow up in
a home that they were happy. So but it's still hard,
you know, it was hard. Definitely was. It wasn't easy,
but it was you know, to me, it was like
(21:33):
the goal was for them. I really didn't want them
to live in that. I didn't want them to live
in an environment where people weren't really truthful and telling,
you know, living that Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, what was that conversation? I mean, I know Joey
was so young. Joey, you're the middle child, right, yeah,
middle child. So what were those conversations like with your
kids when the divorce happened and then maybe when they
were old enough to know a little bit more details
about what.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Happened, conversations where they were Kathy was great about all this,
honestly with them. She was great too. She was you know,
through this whole thing, you know, and she's had she
It was more because being the mother, I think when
your kids are young, it's a lot usier for the
mother to talk a little bit Carly. And we talked
to Carly, both of us did talk to part at
the same time. She was also she was older, she
(22:20):
was seven seven eight years old, so that was different.
Just kind of just said Dad's not going to be here.
That type of conversation, you know, Joey didn't you know
more that Joey being younger kind of did.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
There wasn't much there just later on.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And I will, you know, and that's where that conversation
my daughter Cary this way the kids are my daughter
Kathy has been. She's my Joey's mom just was before
getting able to extremely a well, very good business woman,
very very bright, you know, awesome at her job and
everything and just really gave the kids great things and
how to, you know, how to look at things differently.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So we've learned a lot there.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
But as far as the conversation with them, honestly, it
was more it's pretty like in the begin and then Joey,
I think, joybody, I think you were ten when you
kind of figured it out.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So I don't even know. I don't know when I
actually fully figured out. I still try to think back
how old I was, But yeah, I would say I
don't remember that conversation either. I know we were really young.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
I think it was more Mom that told us that
we're going to see more on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And then the move happened.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I knew they weren't together anymore, but I didn't necessarily
understand why, And those conversations probably came later on in life,
and when I did fully understand it, I think a
lot more started to come together. As I always said,
I think it made me more of an understanding person
and to touch on what my dad was talking about too,
about how he obviously you can tell, doesn't give himself
(23:42):
any credit for any emotional intelligence that I have. My
whole family, especially on my dad's side, is extremely loving,
extremely open. The one thing that they taught us really
really early on, especially through something difficult as divorce, is
you never stop loving on your family like they have
always been open and loving. If you've met my ants
and all these other people on that side, like the
(24:02):
affection they show is it's it's it's almost too much sometimes.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
So it's just it's how they are.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
And I think that was very obviously at a young
age that was really okay to express emotions. I think
that's what my dad's taught me the most throughout our lives.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Wow, I've been I've been really keeping my emotions for
a lot. I really do. I gotta. I gotta get
invited to one of these webs That's great, Okay, so
let's let's pivot back to now, let's go to Joey's
(24:40):
hometowns as the Bachelor and Nick. Now, let's just talk
about you meeting Daisy and Kelsey. What do you what
are your initial thoughts on both of those women?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Both you know, both amazing women.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know, my when I met both of them in
the takeway that day was like, no matter what, either
women amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So that was like happy about Joey's your decision.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You know, that was very very easy to say that
to my son and let him know this is in
you and whatever you decide is a great decision.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Honestly, that must have been a relief that.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Oh yes, yes, that was definitely. That was definitely a
relief for me. They're both in their own ways, they're both,
you know, incredible women. Honestly, I will say one thing,
so this is my takeaway and this is something I
did share and it kind of ties to Charity season
where Daisy was with joe one day when you first
met Daisy sat with Joey. We talked again, impressed as
a family were sitting there in the body language was
(25:33):
just okay, and had the conversation with her and then
I kind of was I was let down a little
bit because I was like, Okay, not what I saw
with Cheery because when they sat down they were like
I saw it. I was like, these people really care
for each other. Well, then in comes Kelsey. She lights
up the room. Sits down with Joey and they were
(25:54):
like two kids on the couch, sitting there.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like on top.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I'm like, okay, finally, I'm like, thank god, I saw this.
That's really what my response was, I really was. It
was just like it was like, oh, thank goodness. So
you know that in hindsight, that's what I looked at
and realized that. So when his decision was Kelsey, then
you know, obviously she's amazing. So it was exciting and
it was happy for him.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, you don't want to be saying and being like
can we bring back charity?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Not right?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Honestly, it was like so you know, just seeing it,
you're just like wow, because I was like, I realized
this does work.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And then you saw that change, and I was like,
wait a minute, I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
With leaving that day where if you were going to
put a bet on it, were you pretty sure it
was going to be Kelsey? Just based on those interactions.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I think, you know, I think in my mind, yes,
I'm waiting. The weight was more towards However, we part
of us is like making sure Joey's making a thoughtful decision, right,
So we're all we're both all of us myself currently,
I think talking to I said listen, just I know,
because we learned later on that Daisy was kind of
expression she didn't at that time. She didn't express enough
to Joey. So we're like, well, make sure he knows
(26:56):
how you feel, because I don't think he does and
we can't. We were supporting that at the end. So
when I left him thinking like, well, I hope I
didn't make him change his mind, and I was like,
I think it will be Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But did we make him rethink this? So that was
what I was a little concerned with.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
And then this would have been probably your third time
in front of the cameras, because I know they filmed
like the packages for the bachel and everything like that.
Did you feel more comfortable this third and final time
doing the hometowns? Like, Okay, I've kind of warmed up
to this, I know what to expect.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I guess more comfortable. It was so hot though.
That was the hardest part of it.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
But it was so hot, so and I really was
not excited about how I looked on CD. I looked
at this front the old man, So I wasn't very
happy with hot film. But it's all right, So I
let that one go. I was like, oh, Joe, I
look so bad. But again, it wasn't about me, it
was about you. It was all right, So Joe, Joey
definitely more comfortable. It's almost like you don't by that time,
you don't even see the cameras. Definitely, you're right, Yeah,
(27:52):
you get used to it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Joey.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Did you did you have any like subtle little hints
that you would let your family and know, like I'm
choosing Kelsey.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
I think the one thing I was told by both
my dad and my sisters, especially my mom even caught
up on it too, I think.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Was I would describe Kelsey in a different way.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
And I think, if I'm being pletely honest, at that time,
I didn't even know how much I was doing it.
I knew I was leaning more towards Kelsey because I
thought we were in a different spot at that time.
But like I was, as much as everyone was telling me,
trying to stay open, trying to wait and see this
full process through. But I just I know, as people
have seen, I'm not very good at hiding my emotions
from time to time. So if I was feeling a
(28:35):
certain type of way, I think my sisters when they
had a break upstairs, both looked at each other and
said Kelsey at the same time, like because they felt
it from after how I talked about each of them,
So I think there was little subtle hints.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
But I will say I can tell us for all.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
My family, especially my dad, each of those women said
that when they left that day they felt supported by
my family, And I know that can be very rare
in that setting because they're kind of, you know, trying
to get to the bottom of this woman really here
for him? Are they someone that I can actually be
a good person for my son? Both my parents, my
dad especially, and my sisters and my mom, they were
(29:12):
just all so loving to the girls, and I think
that's I don't know. I was very proud to hear
those conversations later on and know that they just like
they were who they were, and I was really proud
to hear that.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, love those girls. Yeah they were both. They were
both great. What were you hoping for or expecting from
the conversation with your dad at that final like meet
the family pocket and then what were you hoping from
his conversations with the women?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I was hoping again because it's no different. On the
lead side. I needed my support. I haven't been able
to talk to my dad for two months at that time.
I wanted that support. I want him to feel and
give me that reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.
So that's what I was looking for more than anything else.
Was just the person that's always been there for me
and for the women. I was looking for him to
(30:04):
get a feel on if there was something that I
was missing. I don't think that's a wrong thing for
anyone to want during this time, is to feel if
your family members see or hears something that you're not catching.
As we both said, both the women were amazing, So
there wasn't really anything I was expecting me here, but
that was what I was looking for.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
From the conversation, Nick, for future hometown parents, what advice
would you give them.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
I would say, you know, trust your child, I mean
trust your child and their decision and let him know
that it is their decision. And I would say, really
understand that this process example here, it does work.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
But I think you've heard that.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
You know, people say a lot of time, but I
think they need to understand that they're engrossed. You know,
you know, engrossed in this twenty per seven, they have
no this is what they live for. They basically you
convinced like almost a year's worth of relationship until like
that short two to three months where verse seven they're
with that person, So they really have had an opportunity
to really get to know them. And you know, and
(31:06):
I think just you know, from parents' point of view,
you know you know your child. Hopefully you do. I mean,
you know you're to well enough to know if it's
true or not. And I think the example too with
even Kelsey and her dad. I mean, she told her
dad like she loved Joey before she told Joey. It's like,
you know, it's just like that's because he has a
good relationship with his daughter, and it's like if that
relationship's there, I mean, you know your kid.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know, you know your child.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
So definitely support them the best you can make them
know that the decision is there. Definitely that that's the
biggest part.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think that's the best advice you can.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, that's great advice. Joey. I know that you did
open up and talk about your parents' divorce and the
reasons behind it on Charity Season. I think a lot
of people wondered why that wasn't a part of your
story as the Bachelor. What would you say to answer
those questions like was it talked about, was it something
(31:56):
you were engaging with the women about, did you pull
back for privacy? What would Yeah, I don't know why,
I'm giving you a list of options.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'm sorry I do that.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
No, I do know for a fact that was talked about,
especially to the women that went farther through the process
you touch more on family and your relationship. I would
say that what I think a lot of leads deal
with that. It's kind of almost a fault that sometimes
I kind of expected everyone already knew, right because you
think everyone watched Charity Season, So I was like, Oh,
(32:31):
everyone already.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Knows about my family dynamic and I can build off it.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
But I don't have to get that same, you know,
story all over again, because that was something I really
thought through and wanted to make sure it was done
correctly when I had that time on Charity Season, and
you know, looking back on it, I do wish it
was maybe something that was a part of the hometown
package that we touched on more because it is something
that describes and explains who I am, and it's also
a beautiful story that I think that shows how loving
(32:55):
our family is that how we navigated something like that.
But I really think at a fault, I just expected
everyone knew and didn't realize that there's a whole different
audience that only tuned into our season that didn't even
watch Charity.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
So there's probably a lot everyone knew.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
But it's crazy because there will be people that are
probably tuning into this and for some reason, never knew
until today that my dad's gay. And that's something that
I will never hide, never be ashamed of, want the
world to know because it makes him more of a
special person, doesn't change anything about him. I just think
it was a fault of thinking that everyone knew because
they tuned into Charity season.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
In my mind, yeah, that's totally fair, and I think
that it's a compliment that the people that did watch
you on Charity Season wanted to hear more about who
you are and your story and why you're the way
they are. Nick, you obviously didn't go on the show
as a contestant. How did it feel though, knowing that
such a big part of your life was gonna be
(33:52):
shared through your son.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean it was fun, honestly, and knowing again how
he how he talks about things and how he handles things,
I mean, I was fine and it was yeah, because
he was concerned that and I what, I do appreciate
the fact that the franchise too is great about really
saying I hope that I just you know, your father's
okay with this and in really caring about that, that's awesome,
you know, and to me, And honestly, it's like that
(34:16):
to me.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
I know to some people it's a big thing, but
it's like BEINGKA doesn't define who I am as a person.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
So it's like, it's fine. It's just that's that's the
preference to.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Whatever, such a preference however you want to look at it,
but it's not I'm who I am.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's like I'm this person. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
And people and I think the good takeer was that
a lot of good came out of that and people
appreciating that. So that's the plus to support, you know,
to support the gay people out there. But again to me,
it's I wasn't concerned at all. It's like, this is
my boy. I know he would never talk ill of me,
and I knew that he didn't have an issue with it,
so it's.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Easy nice love that. Well, I think, uh yeah, I
mean overall, great story. I mean you guys, Joey, I
thought you handled yourself wonderful on the show, but I
also think you're kind of a dick.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So you know, yeah, you'll say it. My dad's like
all we got stories for that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Let's ring.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I love to have you guys back.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
But overall, Nick, overall watching your son navigate this whole
process and go through everything, what would you say you're
most proud of him for?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm just I would say, and I kind of do.
We talked a lot too.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It was like every time I saw anything about him,
I'm like I would be every time I saw him,
I was like more proud of every day. It's like
just and it's so crazy to say that, yes, he's
my son, but it's just like I'm just like I
was impressed, like who is this kid?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'm like this guy.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
It's like I was just impressed with how we really
handled himself, how we navigate things, how he you know,
how he made the women know that he was in
it for the right reason. How he how he let
what a very part about, how he made every woman
understand like all their feelings were, he understood them, he
let them express that he was there. And of course
(36:04):
we can't forget the seer white. You know, that's what
Joey thinks. So that was the best part.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
There's Joey. So it's like, but you know, honestly, the
way he navigated.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
That, his interaction with the other women, I would say,
is what I'm most proud of, because he knew what
it was like and he didn't want anybody to Obviously
they're gonna get hurt.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
But his caring, his care for.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
The women on the show and in their emotions and
you know, and leaving them was you know, is I guess.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Would be what I'm most proud of.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
So I've always and I've I've talked to my own
parents about this, but I'm curious. You know, you see
your son as your child, your side, You see him
in certain aspects of his life on a regular basis.
Was it unusual to watch and see him in potentially
(36:55):
a new light as this adult man watching his like
intimate romantic relationships unfold. I mean, like I've said to
my parents, like you would never have seen the moments
between me and my now husband that you did had
we not met on TV, and you would never really
know that, Like that's how I acted within the confines
of a relationship. Was that ever surprising or uncomfortable for you?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I think because I'm a guy and it's my son,
then no. I mean if it was if it was
my daughter, yeah, different story, absolutely. I mean that's honestly,
I think that was a big difference. But him very
you know, he was he was Joey.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It was good.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
It was actually happy for him, honestly, So it didn't
be absolutely if it was like your parents looking at you,
I'd be like, totally different story. Like I don't know
if I can handle this to watch this, you know,
it's like, please trust me. You charity different from then
I did Joey Weiser and Joey, and like it seemed
different for her than.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Joey, So I get it.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah that's fair, Joey. Nick. Thank you guys so much.
We really appreciate you coming on. Nick. You are our
first parent we've had on this podcast. Well actually probably
not first parent, but like first parent of a bachelor.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
First.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Thank you guys, so much. It was great and to
all our listeners, thank you guys. Make sure you stay
tuned in. We have exclusive interviews coming every week and
we love you guys.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yep, don't forget to subscribe and thanks for listening. Bye
bye
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