October 23, 2024 • 35 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are sitting down with Jonathon from Jenn's season of “The Bachelorette”! The future “Paradise” star is here to dish out advice to our listeners and give our hosts all his updates! We kick off today’s episode with the big question: What’s the deal with him and Jenn? Then, we get into the topic of the day: Is it ever okay to lie in a relationship? And, of course, we get into your questions! Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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And we have some great questions today and a very
very handsome special guest.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We do that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I am going to quiz.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we'll get blind because I got him first. Today
we have fan favorite from gen season of the Bachelor
and Future Bachelor and Paradise Star. Who's going to be
dating me in Paradise? Jonathan Johnson is here? Yay, Jonathan,
thanks for joining us. We are so you are too
(01:34):
cute for words. You really are. You are absolutely adorable.
I mean there's I have so many questions, but can
I just jump in with the first one? You are
twenty eight correct?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay? And you're a I want to talk about lacrosse.
You're a lacrosse player, is that correct? What position did
you play or do you play? Say, say again, close defense?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, so my son played long stick d same.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, that's a close long stick y same.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was going to say I had I had a
feeling there with the same and he now refs. He's
like a state ref in Texas. Do you still play?
Do you ref? What do you do?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
No? I mean I have a whole lacrosse set up
in my backyard and me and my roommates we all
played in college and we'll just go back out there
throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And where did you play?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I played at a school called tier Nevada University in Lake.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Is it in the Sierra Nevadas in Lake?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It was a small club school, like nothing crazy. But
I just went because I love the game and wanted
to have fun and it was where I could snowboard
still and just having your time.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's a great game, is it not?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
You know it's the best.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So I'm going to ask you, Jonathan, and see if
you know the answer to this question. What is the
NAT the national sport of Canada? Do you know?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Probably hockey?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I would guess, Jonathan, what what sport are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I figured it is a question because you brought it up.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, you made it obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was trying to throw you an easy pitch.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
They're just trying to you know.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I know you guys are going to mess with me
a little bit. I don't want to jump.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We are not going to mess with you one little bit.
We're gonna be with you in paradise. Why would we
mess with you on this?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Don't you think we should come?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I hope so we would have a ball, we.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Would have a bull.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But wait, before we get into all of it, I
am so curious. You know, the internet is the Internet
is the Internet. And everybody thought she ran to you
and used we're dating the whole nine.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You have your opportunity. Now tell us like it is.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Or not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I didn't hear you speak up, young man?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Everything? Do you date?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Are you dating Jen?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
No? But we do spend a lot of time together.
We get along great. She did not come running back.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I know I'm I were your age, I would have
done it. You know, I don't have gents hair, I
don't have her body. But those are just details.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I'm more of a personality guy. Anyways, you are, oh
big time?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, Susan, maybe it's not too late. Where's your father?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh my god, I'm my that's very quiet guy. He
lives in Kansas City, but he's more soft spoken, handsome guy.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Is he single?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Kathy, it's a shot for us us.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
All right, so we're gon we're gonna get serious now, okay,
and then we'll come back to this too.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, all right the other day, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Do you think it's ever okay to keep secrets from
your partner? And if so, when is the time you
think it's okay to keep those secrets?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Only? Were very minimal things, I think. Okay, let's be
very specific here.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
She gets a new dress that she is fired up on.
You don't like it, but she feels incredible. How do
I look in this? You look smashing? It doesn't matter,
It doesn't matter how.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You your father trained you.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, you are well trained, Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Wait their emotion of their state of mind.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Then all right, I'm going to give you some examples,
like if you're leading a crush and mean things you
might want to say during a fight, if a friend
or family member doesn't like them, would you keep those
things from them?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
So what are you saying you get into a sibling fight? No?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
No, No, Let's say your brother don't like the girl that
you're with. Are you going to tell the girl? Look,
my brother's not digging you.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So no, because my brother exactly to exactly like it
doesn't Oh, my family doesn't like you? What is that? Together?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Are? What about if you what about if you like,
had a crush on a girl, like just a fleeting crush,
you know nothing, Are you going to tell her that
you've like, I gotta tell you, I have had this
little crush, but I'm kind of over it now you're
going to tell her?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I am very direct. Anytime I approach women or if
I have a crush on somebody, I let them know
almost immediately. I don't. There's no real back in life.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I wait, you tell the person you have a crush
on them?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Why don't I do that?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Because there's not enough time in the day for you
to tell the people that.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Behind the confidence of When a woman comes up to
a man and says I have a crush on you,
that it gets me every day, like I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Wait, if a woman comes up to you and says
I have a crush on you, you fall for her.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't fall for her, but I fall for the confidence.
And I'm like, well, let's let's talk. Let's see if
there's something here.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Then Hey, Jonathan, I like it. I have a crush
on you.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, we still have another hour to talk, so let's
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh my god, you are fabulous.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
All right, Kathy, what would you do.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
About a fleet of the brush?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No? No, do you think it's okay to keep secrets?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm with Jonathan. I think you know, it depends on
what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would never want to hurt someone say.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yes, I mean my Honestly, my my in laws did
not like me very much because they you know who
knows why. And I really always hated that my that
I knew that. I wish you know, I hadn't known,
although so I think it just depends on the circumstance.
I do. I think it depends. I'm also Jonathan extremely honest,
(07:58):
but it gets me into trouble sometimes.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Same but situation, I sugar. You need to hear the
hard truth sometimes too, and whether you like it or not,
like sometimes people need it, not like if a friend
of yours is messing up and they can't see it.
Sometimes you got to be the one to be the
bearer of bad news and be like, you're really effing
things up right now and it's not okay.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Susan did that to me today.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I do, but I sugarcoated and I'm very sweet about it.
But I do make my point. I mean, because you
love somebody, you don't want to have resentment or something,
so you need to get it out. You have to
say it like it is.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I'm a firm believer to it. You have an issue
with somebody, doesn't matter who it is, it's not fair
to that person to just have animosities towards them and
then not at all.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And to build resentment.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah yeah, but wait a minute, as Susan, I've spoken
about this. Don't you think delivery matters how you say it?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Can't yell at somebody who doesn't speak English and never
going to understand why you're angry. So communication is huge.
If they can't understand where you're coming from and how
are you saying it, it's not going to be received.
How you say it is just as important as how
it's received.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, I agree with that. All right, You're good in
my book so far.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
All right, So we're gonna we are gonna go ask
you some questions because you know, inquiring minds do want
to know. As like we said before, we cannot wait
to see you in Paradise because you'll be carrying our
luggage for us. But we wait.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Are you hoping that they do a Younger Ants and
Golden Paradise together?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Did you ever hear that rumor?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
We just heard that as soon as I got the
first invite after mental Hall like the Golden Ladies came up,
I was like, I don't discriminate. I'll have fun to
hang out with whoever. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I love him. You're fa and you know if if
you're if, get your heart broken, Susan and I'll be
there to console you.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, besides hoping that world'll be there, who else would
you hope to be there?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I keep.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Getting asked this question. Part of my answer is new blood.
I don't have anybody, but it's partially because I haven't
seen everybody. And like I said, I'm a big personality.
Like I can see somebody be like, Wow, she's dropped dead, gorgeous,
like love her look, love the aesthetic of who she is.
But I'm not going to get conversation somebody if I
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don't know who they are yet, right and that and
that kind of carries over into the thing, Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Do you mean their personality? Jonathan? I lost you there.
You're saying she could be beautiful, but you have to
see what her personality is before you decide whether to
go in. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, she could be a ten out of ten. But
if I can't carry a conversation, I have the answer,
it's just not going to work out.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
So can I just tell you I loved your butt
with the bandages and the whole gun.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I just want to ask you, like your butt hanging
out with that's just so good, It was so good.
I want to know other than it being a dick,
like did you stay up late at night? Like how
can I impress her? Like what went through your mind?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Honestly? I mean I think I'm just like a creative
guy in general. And immediately when I was going over ideas,
that was probably one of the top three or four
that came to me almost immediately, And then me and
my producer kind of built on it, and I was like,
can we make this happen? Is this possible? And we
landed on where if I.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Came out, So, you know, I'm going to ask you,
what are you going to wear? If on Paradise? How
are you going to stroll into the beach? What are
you going to to do something new? Do you say
nude new? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I don't know. Actually that's a really really good point
because that one was focused on the fact that Jen
is a pa.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah right, So why don't you just come in with
like myself, a beautiful Italian suit with skinny leg pants
and great.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Shoes, Susan stopping.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
On a beach wear very short shorts. People seem to
love so.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Can when I came in on our Golden Bachelor season
and the producers, you know, they're asking, Uh, what did
you think about all the people that came in creatively,
because you know, somebody came in on a walk, or
somebody came in a birthday suit, somebody came in in
a wig and whatever. And I looked at him, I said,
I'd see it creatively. I walked, Yeah, that's that was like,
(12:27):
you know, we had a few on our season, but
not not like that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
The guys were kind of tame on Jones.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah they were.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, Jonathan covered his face too.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He's so cute, he's so he's adorable. But yeah, I
think he stole from you, Jonathan number one. I think
Jonathan number two.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Both like yeah, but there's no woman that you wish
from any of the seasons that would be there, Nobody
in particular, like some fresh new meat.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yes, nobody in particular.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yet Okay, I like it always way.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I want to go in with an open mind. I
don't want to come in there and be set on
one person.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Have something in your head, hell, lose sight.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I don't see somebody who's amazing, like right there,
and I don't give that is.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
That is smart? Jonathan? Okay, So I have a question
you I don't know where I read this, or maybe
you said it on the show. I You've obviously received
an incredible out point of love, you know from from
the show You and everyone loves you. But what I
(13:36):
loved is you said I treat every girl the way
I would want to see my mother and sister treated.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's when we fell in That's.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
When I fell in love right there, because that the
fact that you know that and want to treat a
woman that way says that you understand how a woman
wants to be treated. And it also says you treat
your mother sister.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Well, I try my best to. I've gotten a little
bit away from having the time to give to them
with all the attention and things that I have going on. Yeah,
but outside of that, when when I'm with them, you know,
I like to like to put my phone away, I
like to sit down and just listen. I like to
be attentive. I like to give them confidence, make sure
they feel comfortable, and a lot of that I treat
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women kind of have come forward to, like even if
it's a girl friend, I don't care who it is.
Every time a woman gets into my car, the door
is open. Doors also open when she gets out, Like little,
very little things if they're cold my jacket.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Like Jonathan, I have a what do you do for
a living? Right now? I guess you're busy with all this, right.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I'm a creative director, but like I make ads for companies.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
For social Okay, I've got a new career for you.
I'm serious. I'm not even joking. You need to open
up a business where you teach men civility and good
manners and how not to take if they're going on
websites dating websites, please do not take pictures of yourself,
(15:08):
you know, naked from the bathroom, holding a beer in
the bathroom in a towel and holding up a dead fish.
Like you could really educate men if they want to
find women.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I wanted to do that job, educate men on how
to get on dating sites.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
A hard part for the longest time for me is
I think I am like like the stereotypical nice hair
people like nice guys finished last. And I believed that
for the longest time until I became very confident in
myself and I realized I could still win and treat
women with respect, whether it's even in the circumstances of
just hooking up somebody, you meet them for one night
and you hook up whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Susan, do you know I just learned what hooking up.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I had to get hooking.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I didn't think it was all the way. Is that
what you're saying sleep with somebody?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
This is multiple definitions of it, but that's what I'm saying.
But I think over time, I just learned that, Like
you don't have to act like a quote unquote dick
or like a guy that's just like so confident. So
it's like I'm not suave, I'm not smooth, and I
make people feel comfortable, okay, like they no matter the circumstance.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And are you taking a woman home to meet mama
when you hook up with her one night? Is that
the woman you're taking home to meet your mother?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No? I also have like a very friendly relationship with
my mom too, where I would introduce anybody to my mom.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I do know what you're asking. But also I don't
judge based on that. Some people just to them it's
it's fun and you have a connection with somebody and
it happens to be more than just emotional. Maybe it's
just physical that night too, Like you could connect emotionally
to the depth that you do physically too, And I
think that if that's where it leads, that's where it leads.
(16:57):
There's no right or wrong that situation. To me, I
don't think. I think everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Susan looks like she said, Truck.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's what I'm hoping for, not only physically, but emotionally
as well.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh yeah. And that's the thing too, is like it
won't happen, Like you can't just hook up with somebody,
I guess for me unless that emotional connection is also there.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Have you hooked up with a woman for one night
that you were like, this is you know, she's attractive,
let's just go to bed together and have fun, And
the next day she thinks you're about to ask her
to get married. Has that ever happened? Jumps right in,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'm just honestly like, I'm not one to just like
hook up a bunch. It's just not my energy anymore.
But it does happen, Like when you do treat people
with respect and kindness like I like to. I think
in today's modern world, people and people men aren't as
respectful as they should be. They think that as this
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guy wants to be with me, and it could get
you in trouble if you don't handle it in the
right right way, with being honest and upfront with that
person almost you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And with respect. Yes, I have a big question. So
you're like, this king of medium Kings, can you tell
me what that is?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I have to tell you, Susan research, What the hell
does that mean?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
King?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know what I kept coming up on the internet.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
A mattresses and what how do we make medium kings?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Is a medium king?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What is it? Talk to us?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Before I went on the show was an ongoing joke
with a friend of mine that I was not a
short king. I wasn't a tall king or a tall guy.
I was. I was medium. I was perfectly average.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
How tall are you?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Five eleven?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, that's a average.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think five nine is actually the average. But medium
kings are the average five nine and five eleven somewhere
in that. And it became an ongoing joke and I
just became like a self proclaimed medium king. So by
the time I got on the show, I see all
monstrosities that they bring on to the back and I'm like,
what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You can hold five out of it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Because we had a comedy show in Australia. I did
a whole bit about being a medium king, and I
think people kind of ate it up. So that went
on Jen and all the guys knew me as a
medium king. The medium kid just told me that throughout
the season and we just had with it. Yeah, there
was the Bluepirt where Jen called me a medium king,
and then now the public knew about it, and we
just kind of ran that's.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What it's about. I didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I didn't i'd either, I swear I tried to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So are we medium queens?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I'll tell you five six eight? I mean technically yes,
But it's it's hard with women because I feel like
you're either just when you look at women, you're like,
she's either just tall or I mean, like for me,
I think a woman when she's like any from five
foot to five nine, it's just like average. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I think strong.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I don't know. I was. I was tall.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You get to my age and you start losing inches.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It sucks.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't put women in baskets even based on height.
That's just a disaster for me, and I will not.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What do you attract it to, like, what's your do
you have a certain like ooh, I'm legs, okay.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm very much like into fitness and taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I have a question. Do you love being single and
what's the best part of it right now? Or is
there a least favorite thing about being single? I mean,
you're going on these shows to find love, correct.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah. Yeah, I love the freedom of being single, but
I would also love more than anything to find somebody
that is so independent but also put it in us
that I still get to almost live that free lifestyle
as far as like making like almost free decisions that
she supports what I mean, so that that mindset of
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being able to live my life the way I want
to live it still exists. But I have somebody who's
in it, in it but like doing the same things themselves.
So we have this confidence on one another where we
get to bounce off each other and be like, oh
my god, you gotta go do that. Have so much
fun doing that. I'm gonna go do this too, And
when we have time, we're gonna come together and we're
going to share this amazing love and life together. So
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I think it's a it's a bounce where I want
somebody who wants to do the same things I do
and continue to take advantage of life.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And some women are more needy of your time, I think,
and they don't have enough on their yeah, enough on
their own, and that's why it would become a problem
then for you to do your thing without Yeah, I get.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It all right, so quickly just before we move into
our next thing, because we're going to answer some fan
questions and you're going to help give advice. What do
you have advice for people? Because you seem like a
really positive, upbeat guy, but how do you what advice
(22:17):
do you give for staying positive when others around you,
you know, have found love and you're still dating. I
realized you like the freedom, but what advice? How do
you stay positive?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I don't know if it's delusion.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm a positive person.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm not eve gonna say I'm a delusionary too soon,
I know.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think if you truly believe in success and manifestation
of any kind, that your time will come. Like I
know my success financially and career driven, like I just
know it's going to work out, and I'm like, ime
will come I'm just staying on this path. And I
feel that same way about I have friends that are married,
multiple friends that are married, and friends that have kids,
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and I'm going to baby shower next Sunday and these
are best friends from childhood, and not a single part
of me has envy and way. It's like, God, I
wish I was there right now. I wish I was
here for this or that I know my time has
come because I wouldn't have had the growth that I've
had right been part of this amazing opportunity if I
was already in a relationship. So now I get to
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enjoy this and appreciate that it came out way.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Everything in its time, right, everything.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
In this time exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Wait, all right, well that's a great answer, because I
think everything will come. I think you're right. Believe, believe
and believe.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I am worthy dreamer, and I believe it's coming.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
All right, YouTube Dreamers, We're moving on here. We're going
to go through some questions and Johnathan, you're going to
give advice. The first one is from Stephan or Steven,
but I'm going with Stephan because that's how it's spelled.
He's thirty eight from Durham, North Carolina. Go Blue Devils,
Duke Greeting's Susan and Cathy. I am writing in because
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my mom loves you too, and I am seeing her
struggling with something. I'm a mama's boy and I need
to try to help. So I thought that maybe she
will listen to you guys if I play this back
for her. She's been dating someone for the past six
months who I just don't think treats her well at all.
For context, my dad passed away eight years ago and
(24:27):
he was a wonderful guy and treated her like the
queen she is, so now I have very high standards
for the kind of guy who should date her, and
she thinks it's just because I don't want her to
move on for my dad. That's not the case. I
really do want her to be happy. But this guy
is just a jerk. He expects her to pay for dates,
leaves are hanging about plans for days on end, and
(24:50):
always cancels on her last minute, like when she's already
ready for a date. It's not crossed a dangerous line
or anything like that, thankfully, It's just that he's not
a good guy and I hate to see my mom
sat all the time when she should be putting herself
out there to meet someone better. What do you think
this mama's boy should do? Feel free to share advice,
(25:11):
both for me and for her. I'm going to make
her listen to this. Thank you, ladies, and Jonathan, what
do you.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I love this guy for writing this?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, what do you think this is?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Because this is the situation I sit in. Actually, So
I have seen a mom. She's fifty five, and I've
never seen her married since I've been born.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So does she date Jonathan?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
She yes, and no. I don't really, I don't know.
I haven't said that. I haven't lived at home in
a while, like ten years, so I haven't really gotten
a chance to like sit down and really get into
this topic with her. But for me, when I do
see her date, I focus on her happiness in the situation. So,
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whether I love the guy or not, I ask her
how she feels about it. Is she happy? Is she comfortable?
Does she feel safe and secure? If all those answers are.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, then then your mind your business.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Not up to me. I'm not dating him. I don't
have the end all be all decision in that. But
if one of those main points doesn't check out, she's
not happy, she doesn't feel safe, and she doesn't feel
secure in it. I'm like the main advocate for being like, hey,
we need you to really think about it because I
can't tell. I've learned this every time you can't tell somebody,
(26:33):
especially a woman's ways at this point, like that she's
doing things wrong, you know, So trying to make sure
they take a chance to reflect on the relationship and
hopefully know better than what they deserve. And that's all
I can do and be her support.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You hit on it, Jonathan Stefan. Your mom. She may
be perfectly happy with this, and it's up to you
to respect your mom, lover. But at the end of
the day, day if if I don't hear her complaining,
I don't I hear her him saying that he's not
(27:08):
good enough her. I don't hear him saying that his
mother is miserable.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, well, you know what if he's witnessing his mother
being sad and he's canceling dates after she already got ready,
why wouldn't you say something?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh, I would say something. But he's not worth it, mom,
But he's but she's he says, I hate to see
my mom sad all the time. But I don't hear
that the mom is communicating with him. You know, I
can't do any better than this or you know anything
that she's not verbalizing anything in this letter. So Stefan,
I think you need to look carefully. Clearly, the guy's
(27:48):
not up to your standards. But unfortunately he may be
what she's happy with it. He may be good enough.
She may be happy to settle.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's a terrible word.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
She should not settle, ever, agree. But if somebody cancels
that many times, it makes me sad and expects her
to pay for the dates.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And you're saying for days on end.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And then your son you excuse me what, you wouldn't
wait for your son to say these things? You will
not wait for I'm saying she should, but she's not well,
then he should bring it to her attention.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, you can only do so much for somebody. There's
only a certain extent in which you can make things happen.
People have themselves in order to make a change exactly,
and that's really tough. So you have to help guide
them and support them in that correct decision.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's sad.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I wouldn't want to stand by and watch it, but
step on. Thank you and I'm glad you love your
mom so much. Talk some sense into her.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
This next one's from Chloe and she is forty three
from Waterloo, Ontario. Hey, ladies, I love the pod and
I'm hoping for some words of encouragement. Right now, all
of my best friends are either having or have had
baby slash families, and I'm feeling so much jealousy and sadness.
(29:15):
Being in my early forties. This has been the norm
for a while, but now it's all my closest friends,
and I feel like I'm getting to a point where
it may be too late for me by the time
I meet someone. I literally had a best friend and
my cousin tells me this week that they're pregnant. I
am truly beyond happy for my friend and don't want
(29:38):
to bring them down, but I'm struggling emotionally. When my
best friend told me, I actually cried about it for
the rest of the night, which made me feel like
a horrible person. Any advice on how to try to
be happy for them while also feeling sad for myself,
and how to set boundaries with them without sounding like
I am not wanting to be a part of their
(30:00):
pregnancy or their kids' lives. Appreciate you guys so much.
Oh that breaks my heart. It's not too late, first
of all. Second of all, of course you're going to
feel sad because that's something that you want it. You
are absolutely normal. I don't think there's anything at all
(30:23):
wrong with you. And you will be a part of
your friend's babies' lives. You just want it for yourself.
I don't know what do you think, guys.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Well, I will just quickly add that my daughter had
her first baby, and several of her friends are in
their late thirties and early forties, and they verbalize exactly this.
You know, they're happy, but they feel like the window
is closing for them, and you know, realistically it may
(30:55):
be closing for them, not necessarily marriage, but having children.
I think sometimes it's like Jonathan, you said, you just
have to sort of live your life and celebrate the
time that you are in in your life. And and
if you celebrate that, then other opportunities come your way.
And you you know, I think that she can be
(31:18):
friends and should support them and love them, but it's
okay to feel sad, but also realize that other incredible
opportunities may be come in your way.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, I think for me, this is a really hard
one to answer, you know, especially as a man. You know,
it's it's really hard to look at that and not
be like, well, you shouldn't let other people's successes bring
you down. That right feels like a source of like envy,
where it's like you people like you shouldn't be matter.
But it's not that easy, you know. I think there's
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a lot of societal pressure and physical pressure even to
have kids at a certain age, and you have a
biological clock that you're abiding by. So for me, it's
just like I guess from from a guy's perspective, it's
more just keep your head up and if that's something
you really really want, and if it's you want it
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so bad that you don't care that you have a partner,
you can there's other forms of making that happen right
for yourself. So it's it's it's a tough one. I
I wish her the absolute best, and I hope she
kind of comes to conclusion on what she wants, because
if she wants a family with a person, maybe she
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waits to find the person and then adopts.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, or you could just go get That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's what I meant when I said being open to
other opportunities adoption or seracy to be a mother.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
She could go to a fertility clinic and speak to
a mother and find somebody later and the right person
will be perfectly okay with that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, I do feel for and like I said, it's
okay to feel a little bad for yourself because you
are a little envious of that. You know, it's normal normally.
I got a little sad on that one. Well, but
you know what, Jonathan, you were awesome. I love your
words of wisdom here. You seem much more mature.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Than you actually your age. You got a good head
on your shoulders.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I have to say, though, Susan, I think a lot
of the people that we have interviewed from Bachlorination.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I think they are chronologically.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
You guys are obviously from where we sit. You know
you're really young. But you guys, you know, we've done
so many interviews at this point of Bachlorination people, and
you all have such wonderful perspective and joyful lives, and
even you've had some hard things you really have this
upbeat attitude of life is good and I'm I'm so
(33:56):
excited about where it's taking me in I for one,
thank you for you know, sharing that happiness with us.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yes, thank you, And hopefully we'll be with you on paradise.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I would hope so.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And to like.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
With the platform that I've been given in people give
it apparently yeah, gifted and the fact that people are
giving me so much love, all I want to do
is return that in spades, and I hope that people
take a little positivity and peace of mind from knowing
like it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
And that's to say Susan and I the thing that
we try to do is give people that positivity. But
also at our age, realize you're not invisible. Life is
not for get up, move enjoy life because this is
the last and best chapter of our lives. So it's
the same kind of thing, just at our age it
looks a little different. Well, listen, we can't wait to
(34:50):
see you again, Jonathan. Hopefully it's Bachelor in Paradise, but
now who knows. Be sure to follow us though on
Bachelor Happy Hour because we do have new episodes coming
out every week. And if you liked what we did
today with Jonathan and our chats with him. You're gonna
love what's coming up next.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, please just keep sending us these questions because we'll
do as much as we can to give you some advice,
whether it's good advice or not. And you just have
to go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or
hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks so much, Jonathan.
Everyone have a great week.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. We're so excited to be back. Hello Susan,
Hello Kathy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
You can even listen to the past episodes and we've
had some really good ones. We're having fun answering your questions,
so keep them coming. Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour,
And we have some great questions today and a very
very handsome special guest.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
We do that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I am going to quiz.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we'll get blind because I got him first. Today
we have fan favorite from gen season of the Bachelor
and Future Bachelor and Paradise Star. Who's going to be
dating me in Paradise? Jonathan Johnson is here? Yay, Jonathan,
thanks for joining us. We are so you are too
(01:34):
cute for words. You really are. You are absolutely adorable.
I mean there's I have so many questions, but can
I just jump in with the first one? You are
twenty eight correct?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay? And you're a I want to talk about lacrosse.
You're a lacrosse player, is that correct? What position did
you play or do you play? Say, say again, close defense?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, so my son played long stick d same.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, that's a close long stick y same.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was going to say I had I had a
feeling there with the same and he now refs. He's
like a state ref in Texas. Do you still play?
Do you ref? What do you do?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
No? I mean I have a whole lacrosse set up
in my backyard and me and my roommates we all
played in college and we'll just go back out there
throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And where did you play?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I played at a school called tier Nevada University in Lake.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Is it in the Sierra Nevadas in Lake?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It was a small club school, like nothing crazy. But
I just went because I love the game and wanted
to have fun and it was where I could snowboard
still and just having your time.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's a great game, is it not?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
You know it's the best.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So I'm going to ask you, Jonathan, and see if
you know the answer to this question. What is the
NAT the national sport of Canada? Do you know?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Probably hockey?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I would guess, Jonathan, what what sport are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I figured it is a question because you brought it up.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, you made it obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was trying to throw you an easy pitch.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
They're just trying to you know.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I know you guys are going to mess with me
a little bit. I don't want to jump.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We are not going to mess with you one little bit.
We're gonna be with you in paradise. Why would we
mess with you on this?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Don't you think we should come?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I hope so we would have a ball, we.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Would have a bull.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But wait, before we get into all of it, I
am so curious. You know, the internet is the Internet
is the Internet. And everybody thought she ran to you
and used we're dating the whole nine.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You have your opportunity. Now tell us like it is.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Or not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I didn't hear you speak up, young man?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
What do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Everything? Do you date?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Are you dating Jen?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
No? But we do spend a lot of time together.
We get along great. She did not come running back.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I know I'm I were your age, I would have
done it. You know, I don't have gents hair, I
don't have her body. But those are just details.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I'm more of a personality guy. Anyways, you are, oh
big time?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, Susan, maybe it's not too late. Where's your father?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh my god, I'm my that's very quiet guy. He
lives in Kansas City, but he's more soft spoken, handsome guy.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Is he single?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Kathy, it's a shot for us us.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
All right, so we're gon we're gonna get serious now, okay,
and then we'll come back to this too.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, all right the other day, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Do you think it's ever okay to keep secrets from
your partner? And if so, when is the time you
think it's okay to keep those secrets?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Only? Were very minimal things, I think. Okay, let's be
very specific here.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
She gets a new dress that she is fired up on.
You don't like it, but she feels incredible. How do
I look in this? You look smashing? It doesn't matter,
It doesn't matter how.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You your father trained you.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, you are well trained, Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Wait their emotion of their state of mind.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Then all right, I'm going to give you some examples,
like if you're leading a crush and mean things you
might want to say during a fight, if a friend
or family member doesn't like them, would you keep those
things from them?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
So what are you saying you get into a sibling fight? No?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
No, No, Let's say your brother don't like the girl that
you're with. Are you going to tell the girl? Look,
my brother's not digging you.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So no, because my brother exactly to exactly like it
doesn't Oh, my family doesn't like you? What is that? Together?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Are? What about if you what about if you like,
had a crush on a girl, like just a fleeting crush,
you know nothing, Are you going to tell her that
you've like, I gotta tell you, I have had this
little crush, but I'm kind of over it now you're
going to tell her?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I am very direct. Anytime I approach women or if
I have a crush on somebody, I let them know
almost immediately. I don't. There's no real back in life.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I wait, you tell the person you have a crush
on them?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Why don't I do that?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Because there's not enough time in the day for you
to tell the people that.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Behind the confidence of When a woman comes up to
a man and says I have a crush on you,
that it gets me every day, like I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Wait, if a woman comes up to you and says
I have a crush on you, you fall for her.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't fall for her, but I fall for the confidence.
And I'm like, well, let's let's talk. Let's see if
there's something here.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Then Hey, Jonathan, I like it. I have a crush
on you.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, we still have another hour to talk, so let's
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh my god, you are fabulous.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
All right, Kathy, what would you do.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
About a fleet of the brush?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No? No, do you think it's okay to keep secrets?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm with Jonathan. I think you know, it depends on
what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would never want to hurt someone say.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yes, I mean my Honestly, my my in laws did
not like me very much because they you know who
knows why. And I really always hated that my that
I knew that. I wish you know, I hadn't known,
although so I think it just depends on the circumstance.
I do. I think it depends. I'm also Jonathan extremely honest,
(07:58):
but it gets me into trouble sometimes.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Same but situation, I sugar. You need to hear the
hard truth sometimes too, and whether you like it or not,
like sometimes people need it, not like if a friend
of yours is messing up and they can't see it.
Sometimes you got to be the one to be the
bearer of bad news and be like, you're really effing
things up right now and it's not okay.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Susan did that to me today.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I do, but I sugarcoated and I'm very sweet about it.
But I do make my point. I mean, because you
love somebody, you don't want to have resentment or something,
so you need to get it out. You have to
say it like it is.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I'm a firm believer to it. You have an issue
with somebody, doesn't matter who it is, it's not fair
to that person to just have animosities towards them and
then not at all.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And to build resentment.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah yeah, but wait a minute, as Susan, I've spoken
about this. Don't you think delivery matters how you say it?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Can't yell at somebody who doesn't speak English and never
going to understand why you're angry. So communication is huge.
If they can't understand where you're coming from and how
are you saying it, it's not going to be received.
How you say it is just as important as how
it's received.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yes, I agree with that. All right, You're good in
my book so far.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
All right, So we're gonna we are gonna go ask
you some questions because you know, inquiring minds do want
to know. As like we said before, we cannot wait
to see you in Paradise because you'll be carrying our
luggage for us. But we wait.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Are you hoping that they do a Younger Ants and
Golden Paradise together?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Did you ever hear that rumor?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
We just heard that as soon as I got the
first invite after mental Hall like the Golden Ladies came up,
I was like, I don't discriminate. I'll have fun to
hang out with whoever. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I love him. You're fa and you know if if
you're if, get your heart broken, Susan and I'll be
there to console you.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, besides hoping that world'll be there, who else would
you hope to be there?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I keep.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Getting asked this question. Part of my answer is new blood.
I don't have anybody, but it's partially because I haven't
seen everybody. And like I said, I'm a big personality.
Like I can see somebody be like, Wow, she's dropped dead, gorgeous,
like love her look, love the aesthetic of who she is.
But I'm not going to get conversation somebody if I
(10:28):
don't know who they are yet, right and that and
that kind of carries over into the thing, Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Do you mean their personality? Jonathan? I lost you there.
You're saying she could be beautiful, but you have to
see what her personality is before you decide whether to
go in. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, she could be a ten out of ten. But
if I can't carry a conversation, I have the answer,
it's just not going to work out.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
So can I just tell you I loved your butt
with the bandages and the whole gun.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I just want to ask you, like your butt hanging
out with that's just so good, It was so good.
I want to know other than it being a dick,
like did you stay up late at night? Like how
can I impress her? Like what went through your mind?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Honestly? I mean I think I'm just like a creative
guy in general. And immediately when I was going over ideas,
that was probably one of the top three or four
that came to me almost immediately, And then me and
my producer kind of built on it, and I was like,
can we make this happen? Is this possible? And we
landed on where if I.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Came out, So, you know, I'm going to ask you,
what are you going to wear? If on Paradise? How
are you going to stroll into the beach? What are
you going to to do something new? Do you say
nude new? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I don't know. Actually that's a really really good point
because that one was focused on the fact that Jen
is a pa.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah right, So why don't you just come in with
like myself, a beautiful Italian suit with skinny leg pants
and great.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Shoes, Susan stopping.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
On a beach wear very short shorts. People seem to
love so.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Can when I came in on our Golden Bachelor season
and the producers, you know, they're asking, Uh, what did
you think about all the people that came in creatively,
because you know, somebody came in on a walk, or
somebody came in a birthday suit, somebody came in in
a wig and whatever. And I looked at him, I said,
I'd see it creatively. I walked, Yeah, that's that was like,
(12:27):
you know, we had a few on our season, but
not not like that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
The guys were kind of tame on Jones.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah they were.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, Jonathan covered his face too.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He's so cute, he's so he's adorable. But yeah, I
think he stole from you, Jonathan number one. I think
Jonathan number two.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Both like yeah, but there's no woman that you wish
from any of the seasons that would be there, Nobody
in particular, like some fresh new meat.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yes, nobody in particular.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yet Okay, I like it always way.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I want to go in with an open mind. I
don't want to come in there and be set on
one person.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Have something in your head, hell, lose sight.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I don't see somebody who's amazing, like right there,
and I don't give that is.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
That is smart? Jonathan? Okay, So I have a question
you I don't know where I read this, or maybe
you said it on the show. I You've obviously received
an incredible out point of love, you know from from
the show You and everyone loves you. But what I
(13:36):
loved is you said I treat every girl the way
I would want to see my mother and sister treated.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's when we fell in That's.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
When I fell in love right there, because that the
fact that you know that and want to treat a
woman that way says that you understand how a woman
wants to be treated. And it also says you treat
your mother sister.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Well, I try my best to. I've gotten a little
bit away from having the time to give to them
with all the attention and things that I have going on. Yeah,
but outside of that, when when I'm with them, you know,
I like to like to put my phone away, I
like to sit down and just listen. I like to
be attentive. I like to give them confidence, make sure
they feel comfortable, and a lot of that I treat
(14:24):
women kind of have come forward to, like even if
it's a girl friend, I don't care who it is.
Every time a woman gets into my car, the door
is open. Doors also open when she gets out, Like little,
very little things if they're cold my jacket.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Like Jonathan, I have a what do you do for
a living? Right now? I guess you're busy with all this, right.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I'm a creative director, but like I make ads for companies.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
For social Okay, I've got a new career for you.
I'm serious. I'm not even joking. You need to open
up a business where you teach men civility and good
manners and how not to take if they're going on
websites dating websites, please do not take pictures of yourself,
(15:08):
you know, naked from the bathroom, holding a beer in
the bathroom in a towel and holding up a dead fish.
Like you could really educate men if they want to
find women.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I wanted to do that job, educate men on how
to get on dating sites.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
A hard part for the longest time for me is
I think I am like like the stereotypical nice hair
people like nice guys finished last. And I believed that
for the longest time until I became very confident in
myself and I realized I could still win and treat
women with respect, whether it's even in the circumstances of
just hooking up somebody, you meet them for one night
and you hook up whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Susan, do you know I just learned what hooking up.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I had to get hooking.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I didn't think it was all the way. Is that
what you're saying sleep with somebody?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
This is multiple definitions of it, but that's what I'm saying.
But I think over time, I just learned that, Like
you don't have to act like a quote unquote dick
or like a guy that's just like so confident. So
it's like I'm not suave, I'm not smooth, and I
make people feel comfortable, okay, like they no matter the circumstance.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And are you taking a woman home to meet mama
when you hook up with her one night? Is that
the woman you're taking home to meet your mother?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No? I also have like a very friendly relationship with
my mom too, where I would introduce anybody to my mom.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I do know what you're asking. But also I don't
judge based on that. Some people just to them it's
it's fun and you have a connection with somebody and
it happens to be more than just emotional. Maybe it's
just physical that night too, Like you could connect emotionally
to the depth that you do physically too, And I
think that if that's where it leads, that's where it leads.
(16:57):
There's no right or wrong that situation. To me, I
don't think. I think everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Susan looks like she said, Truck.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's what I'm hoping for, not only physically, but emotionally
as well.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh yeah. And that's the thing too, is like it
won't happen, Like you can't just hook up with somebody,
I guess for me unless that emotional connection is also there.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Have you hooked up with a woman for one night
that you were like, this is you know, she's attractive,
let's just go to bed together and have fun, And
the next day she thinks you're about to ask her
to get married. Has that ever happened? Jumps right in,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'm just honestly like, I'm not one to just like
hook up a bunch. It's just not my energy anymore.
But it does happen, Like when you do treat people
with respect and kindness like I like to. I think
in today's modern world, people and people men aren't as
respectful as they should be. They think that as this
(17:57):
guy wants to be with me, and it could get
you in trouble if you don't handle it in the
right right way, with being honest and upfront with that
person almost you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And with respect. Yes, I have a big question. So
you're like, this king of medium Kings, can you tell
me what that is?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I have to tell you, Susan research, What the hell
does that mean?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
King?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know what I kept coming up on the internet.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
A mattresses and what how do we make medium kings?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Is a medium king?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What is it? Talk to us?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Before I went on the show was an ongoing joke
with a friend of mine that I was not a
short king. I wasn't a tall king or a tall guy.
I was. I was medium. I was perfectly average.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
How tall are you?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Five eleven?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, that's a average.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think five nine is actually the average. But medium
kings are the average five nine and five eleven somewhere
in that. And it became an ongoing joke and I
just became like a self proclaimed medium king. So by
the time I got on the show, I see all
monstrosities that they bring on to the back and I'm like,
what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You can hold five out of it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Because we had a comedy show in Australia. I did
a whole bit about being a medium king, and I
think people kind of ate it up. So that went
on Jen and all the guys knew me as a
medium king. The medium kid just told me that throughout
the season and we just had with it. Yeah, there
was the Bluepirt where Jen called me a medium king,
and then now the public knew about it, and we
just kind of ran that's.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What it's about. I didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I didn't i'd either, I swear I tried to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So are we medium queens?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I'll tell you five six eight? I mean technically yes,
But it's it's hard with women because I feel like
you're either just when you look at women, you're like,
she's either just tall or I mean, like for me,
I think a woman when she's like any from five
foot to five nine, it's just like average. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I think strong.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I don't know. I was. I was tall.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You get to my age and you start losing inches.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It sucks.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't put women in baskets even based on height.
That's just a disaster for me, and I will not.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What do you attract it to, like, what's your do
you have a certain like ooh, I'm legs, okay.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm very much like into fitness and taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
All right.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I have a question. Do you love being single and
what's the best part of it right now? Or is
there a least favorite thing about being single? I mean,
you're going on these shows to find love, correct.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah. Yeah, I love the freedom of being single, but
I would also love more than anything to find somebody
that is so independent but also put it in us
that I still get to almost live that free lifestyle
as far as like making like almost free decisions that
she supports what I mean, so that that mindset of
(21:11):
being able to live my life the way I want
to live it still exists. But I have somebody who's
in it, in it but like doing the same things themselves.
So we have this confidence on one another where we
get to bounce off each other and be like, oh
my god, you gotta go do that. Have so much
fun doing that. I'm gonna go do this too, And
when we have time, we're gonna come together and we're
going to share this amazing love and life together. So
(21:32):
I think it's a it's a bounce where I want
somebody who wants to do the same things I do
and continue to take advantage of life.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And some women are more needy of your time, I think,
and they don't have enough on their yeah, enough on
their own, and that's why it would become a problem
then for you to do your thing without Yeah, I get.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It all right, so quickly just before we move into
our next thing, because we're going to answer some fan
questions and you're going to help give advice. What do
you have advice for people? Because you seem like a
really positive, upbeat guy, but how do you what advice
(22:17):
do you give for staying positive when others around you,
you know, have found love and you're still dating. I
realized you like the freedom, but what advice? How do
you stay positive?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I don't know if it's delusion.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm a positive person.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm not eve gonna say I'm a delusionary too soon,
I know.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think if you truly believe in success and manifestation
of any kind, that your time will come. Like I
know my success financially and career driven, like I just
know it's going to work out, and I'm like, ime
will come I'm just staying on this path. And I
feel that same way about I have friends that are married,
multiple friends that are married, and friends that have kids,
(23:04):
and I'm going to baby shower next Sunday and these
are best friends from childhood, and not a single part
of me has envy and way. It's like, God, I
wish I was there right now. I wish I was
here for this or that I know my time has
come because I wouldn't have had the growth that I've
had right been part of this amazing opportunity if I
was already in a relationship. So now I get to
(23:26):
enjoy this and appreciate that it came out way.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Everything in its time, right, everything.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
In this time exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Wait, all right, well that's a great answer, because I
think everything will come. I think you're right. Believe, believe
and believe.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I am worthy dreamer, and I believe it's coming.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
All right, YouTube Dreamers, We're moving on here. We're going
to go through some questions and Johnathan, you're going to
give advice. The first one is from Stephan or Steven,
but I'm going with Stephan because that's how it's spelled.
He's thirty eight from Durham, North Carolina. Go Blue Devils,
Duke Greeting's Susan and Cathy. I am writing in because
(24:06):
my mom loves you too, and I am seeing her
struggling with something. I'm a mama's boy and I need
to try to help. So I thought that maybe she
will listen to you guys if I play this back
for her. She's been dating someone for the past six
months who I just don't think treats her well at all.
For context, my dad passed away eight years ago and
(24:27):
he was a wonderful guy and treated her like the
queen she is, so now I have very high standards
for the kind of guy who should date her, and
she thinks it's just because I don't want her to
move on for my dad. That's not the case. I
really do want her to be happy. But this guy
is just a jerk. He expects her to pay for dates,
leaves are hanging about plans for days on end, and
(24:50):
always cancels on her last minute, like when she's already
ready for a date. It's not crossed a dangerous line
or anything like that, thankfully, It's just that he's not
a good guy and I hate to see my mom
sat all the time when she should be putting herself
out there to meet someone better. What do you think
this mama's boy should do? Feel free to share advice,
(25:11):
both for me and for her. I'm going to make
her listen to this. Thank you, ladies, and Jonathan, what
do you.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I love this guy for writing this?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, what do you think this is?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Because this is the situation I sit in. Actually, So
I have seen a mom. She's fifty five, and I've
never seen her married since I've been born.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So does she date Jonathan?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
She yes, and no. I don't really, I don't know.
I haven't said that. I haven't lived at home in
a while, like ten years, so I haven't really gotten
a chance to like sit down and really get into
this topic with her. But for me, when I do
see her date, I focus on her happiness in the situation. So,
(26:00):
whether I love the guy or not, I ask her
how she feels about it. Is she happy? Is she comfortable?
Does she feel safe and secure? If all those answers are.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, then then your mind your business.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Not up to me. I'm not dating him. I don't
have the end all be all decision in that. But
if one of those main points doesn't check out, she's
not happy, she doesn't feel safe, and she doesn't feel
secure in it. I'm like the main advocate for being like, hey,
we need you to really think about it because I
can't tell. I've learned this every time you can't tell somebody,
(26:33):
especially a woman's ways at this point, like that she's
doing things wrong, you know, So trying to make sure
they take a chance to reflect on the relationship and
hopefully know better than what they deserve. And that's all
I can do and be her support.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You hit on it, Jonathan Stefan. Your mom. She may
be perfectly happy with this, and it's up to you
to respect your mom, lover. But at the end of
the day, day if if I don't hear her complaining,
I don't I hear her him saying that he's not
(27:08):
good enough her. I don't hear him saying that his
mother is miserable.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, well, you know what if he's witnessing his mother
being sad and he's canceling dates after she already got ready,
why wouldn't you say something?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh, I would say something. But he's not worth it, mom,
But he's but she's he says, I hate to see
my mom sad all the time. But I don't hear
that the mom is communicating with him. You know, I
can't do any better than this or you know anything
that she's not verbalizing anything in this letter. So Stefan,
I think you need to look carefully. Clearly, the guy's
(27:48):
not up to your standards. But unfortunately he may be
what she's happy with it. He may be good enough.
She may be happy to settle.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's a terrible word.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
She should not settle, ever, agree. But if somebody cancels
that many times, it makes me sad and expects her
to pay for the dates.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And you're saying for days on end.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And then your son you excuse me what, you wouldn't
wait for your son to say these things? You will
not wait for I'm saying she should, but she's not well,
then he should bring it to her attention.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, you can only do so much for somebody. There's
only a certain extent in which you can make things happen.
People have themselves in order to make a change exactly,
and that's really tough. So you have to help guide
them and support them in that correct decision.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's sad.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I wouldn't want to stand by and watch it, but
step on. Thank you and I'm glad you love your
mom so much. Talk some sense into her.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
This next one's from Chloe and she is forty three
from Waterloo, Ontario. Hey, ladies, I love the pod and
I'm hoping for some words of encouragement. Right now, all
of my best friends are either having or have had
baby slash families, and I'm feeling so much jealousy and sadness.
(29:15):
Being in my early forties. This has been the norm
for a while, but now it's all my closest friends,
and I feel like I'm getting to a point where
it may be too late for me by the time
I meet someone. I literally had a best friend and
my cousin tells me this week that they're pregnant. I
am truly beyond happy for my friend and don't want
(29:38):
to bring them down, but I'm struggling emotionally. When my
best friend told me, I actually cried about it for
the rest of the night, which made me feel like
a horrible person. Any advice on how to try to
be happy for them while also feeling sad for myself,
and how to set boundaries with them without sounding like
I am not wanting to be a part of their
(30:00):
pregnancy or their kids' lives. Appreciate you guys so much.
Oh that breaks my heart. It's not too late, first
of all. Second of all, of course you're going to
feel sad because that's something that you want it. You
are absolutely normal. I don't think there's anything at all
(30:23):
wrong with you. And you will be a part of
your friend's babies' lives. You just want it for yourself.
I don't know what do you think, guys.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Well, I will just quickly add that my daughter had
her first baby, and several of her friends are in
their late thirties and early forties, and they verbalize exactly this.
You know, they're happy, but they feel like the window
is closing for them, and you know, realistically it may
(30:55):
be closing for them, not necessarily marriage, but having children.
I think sometimes it's like Jonathan, you said, you just
have to sort of live your life and celebrate the
time that you are in in your life. And and
if you celebrate that, then other opportunities come your way.
And you you know, I think that she can be
(31:18):
friends and should support them and love them, but it's
okay to feel sad, but also realize that other incredible
opportunities may be come in your way.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, I think for me, this is a really hard
one to answer, you know, especially as a man. You know,
it's it's really hard to look at that and not
be like, well, you shouldn't let other people's successes bring
you down. That right feels like a source of like envy,
where it's like you people like you shouldn't be matter.
But it's not that easy, you know. I think there's
(31:49):
a lot of societal pressure and physical pressure even to
have kids at a certain age, and you have a
biological clock that you're abiding by. So for me, it's
just like I guess from from a guy's perspective, it's
more just keep your head up and if that's something
you really really want, and if it's you want it
(32:11):
so bad that you don't care that you have a partner,
you can there's other forms of making that happen right
for yourself. So it's it's it's a tough one. I
I wish her the absolute best, and I hope she
kind of comes to conclusion on what she wants, because
if she wants a family with a person, maybe she
(32:33):
waits to find the person and then adopts.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, or you could just go get That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's what I meant when I said being open to
other opportunities adoption or seracy to be a mother.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
She could go to a fertility clinic and speak to
a mother and find somebody later and the right person
will be perfectly okay with that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, I do feel for and like I said, it's
okay to feel a little bad for yourself because you
are a little envious of that. You know, it's normal normally.
I got a little sad on that one. Well, but
you know what, Jonathan, you were awesome. I love your
words of wisdom here. You seem much more mature.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Than you actually your age. You got a good head
on your shoulders.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I have to say, though, Susan, I think a lot
of the people that we have interviewed from Bachlorination.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I think they are chronologically.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
You guys are obviously from where we sit. You know
you're really young. But you guys, you know, we've done
so many interviews at this point of Bachlorination people, and
you all have such wonderful perspective and joyful lives, and
even you've had some hard things you really have this
upbeat attitude of life is good and I'm I'm so
(33:56):
excited about where it's taking me in I for one,
thank you for you know, sharing that happiness with us.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yes, thank you, And hopefully we'll be with you on paradise.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I would hope so.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And to like.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
With the platform that I've been given in people give
it apparently yeah, gifted and the fact that people are
giving me so much love, all I want to do
is return that in spades, and I hope that people
take a little positivity and peace of mind from knowing
like it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
And that's to say Susan and I the thing that
we try to do is give people that positivity. But
also at our age, realize you're not invisible. Life is
not for get up, move enjoy life because this is
the last and best chapter of our lives. So it's
the same kind of thing, just at our age it
looks a little different. Well, listen, we can't wait to
(34:50):
see you again, Jonathan. Hopefully it's Bachelor in Paradise, but
now who knows. Be sure to follow us though on
Bachelor Happy Hour because we do have new episodes coming
out every week. And if you liked what we did
today with Jonathan and our chats with him. You're gonna
love what's coming up next.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, please just keep sending us these questions because we'll
do as much as we can to give you some advice,
whether it's good advice or not. And you just have
to go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or
hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks so much, Jonathan.
Everyone have a great week.
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