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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sometimes we're just as shocked or moved or energized by
the news we cover as anyone would be, but by
the time we share it, our initial reaction has settled
a bit. But for these stories, we want you to
learn about the news at the same time we do.
Welcome to another installment.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Of and Know Not. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Qu have you heard of a story? White man hurls inward,
threatens to lynch Popeyes worker in viral video.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
So I know I haven't heard this specific story, okay,
because it sounds new, but all the things you just
said happening, I'm a very.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Unusual Yeah, I haven't. I haven't read this one yet.
And so we're just gonna we'll go with Okay. So, uh,
I'm gonna try not to be I'm gonna try to
be as woo saw as I can this time because
we've been we've been working right, but uh, you know
here we are. Popey' is the Louisiana kitchen Okay From
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the Black Information Network, A Florida man was caught hurling
the inward at a Popeyes worker and threatening to lynch her.
Oh it's a woman, Okay, lynch her? In a resurfaced
viral video the man, identified by social media users as
Cotton Norseworthy, launched a racist attack against the employee after
a food dispute. Video shows Norseworthy calling the worker the
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inward at least seven times after he accused her of
calling him a cracker. Real quick, before I move forward,
For those who don't know, my understanding of the origin
of the word cracker is not like a saltine cracker,
you know, because that you could see how that can
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be hurtful. You're making your comparison to something that's bland
and you know whatever. But my understanding of the origin
of that word, and I could be wrong, I haven't
like journalistically researched. My understanding is that that comes from
the cracker of the whip, the whip cracker, right, So
that's how that came to be associated with light bulks.
So just while we're here, all right, quote, I called
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her a in word after she called me a cracker,
Norseworthy admitted to a store manager who tried to intervene
in the situation. Northworthy threatened to call the police on
the employee, but later hung up the phone and said,
all you inwards think this is e fing acceptable. You
fing inwards. Quote, he can't call me that he's a cracker.
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F him, the employee responded. Encounter escalated as the two
continue to argue back and forth. Quote when I catch
your inward a word outside, I promise you. I promise you,
I'm gonna beat your fing in ay. Northworthy said, I'm
gonna hang you from an affing tree. B word wow okay.
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Quote your parents raised you like an affing inWORD, he added,
as the employee continued to call him a cracker. Exchange
ended with the man claiming he was better than the
employee because of his race. I'm white. That means I'm
automatically better than you. B word okay. The video was
originally shared in twenty twenty two, but resurfaced online earlier
this week. Northsworthy's violent past also surfaced as the video
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went viral. In twenty fourteen, Northworthy was charged for felony,
domestic battery by strangulation, obstructing justice, and tampering with a
felony preceding. According to reports, popeyees previously addressed the incident,
saying the company as a zero tommins policy for hateful aggression.
Watch the video here. I think I'll pass. All right,
that's it, so all right, we're doing a happy thing here. Oosa,
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all right, all right? How do I? How do I
react to this? What do I think of this? You
want me to go first?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Can you say this man's name again?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Let me bined hold on, Colton Norsworthy.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
His name sounds like if you and I were writing
a screenplay and we had to write the most racist
character for the for the play or the movie or
the film or whatever, name him that. I've never heard
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that recipe of racism like that combination of words uttered
over and over again with as you would say, muzzle
velocity wow. However, and elementary in junior high school, and
even even in my early high school years, when you
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would write a book report or an essay. During the outlining,
you had to come up with the main idea of
the story. And the main idea of that story was
stated at the end, I'm white, therefore, and that's the
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whole that's the whole game. That's the whole game. That
that's the that's the game we've been playing for ten lifetimes.
And the one that and I'll say this was some
pride because I've been hearing the opposite and it makes
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me sick to my stomach. I've been hearing our generations
say we're not our ancestors, like that's some type of
flex Our ancestors fought this fight and won it, and
they won it temporarily we've somehow gotten back here. But
with every odd stacked against them, our ancestors set this
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world up for us to live in it without shackles on.
And unfortunately, right after our ancestors finished fighting, they had children,
and those children had children, and those those grandchildren are
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you and I. But our parents, those born right up
against the right before the fifties and right to the
end of the sixties, got to live their best years
in the best version of this country for black people,
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right as the civil rights movement reached its pinnacle and
we got the right to vote, and we could work,
and we could get money, and we could start businesses,
and we could go to school.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hurdles, but yeah, you're right, we.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Got up with mobility.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
We were able to exist, and of course there was
always hurdles, but for a moment there was less of
them than there are now, significantly less right that that,
and that's why that's why I edged us right up
against the fifties in the sixties, because born in the
fifties in the sixties, your formative years, your your most athletic,
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your most youthful, your strongest years, when you got to
go outside and party, when you got to meet your lady,
when you got to get your job and get your
car and start going to concerts and nightclubs and plays
and movies, and put that and put that on, put
that on, like you know what I'm talking about. You
know what they've made of the red carpets.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's us.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
The reason why that's a big thing, Well, who are
you wearing? Is because we put that on and came
outside those years from in between doctor King and Ronald Reagan,
so right as you and I were being conceived, those
were the years to be black, when you had soul trained,
when you had your afro like rams is whereas he is,
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when you had like they felt then that there was
so much further to go, but they were in the
they were at the pinnacle of what it meant to
be free and black. And then Reaganomics because black people
are too free, they're too proud, they too outside. They
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they get money, they get in an education like weight
slow down, We cannot make access to all these things
so accessible, healthcare, education, upward mobility. We have to find
a way to pause this because life is starting to
look and feel too good for them. So we can't,
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at this point, right on the heels of civil rights,
make being black the barrier. So let's make being poor
the barrier.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And continue to tell.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
All poor people that their fight is against all black
and brown people, that the reason that they're poor, that
the reason that there's crime, that the reason they don't
have access to all these things is their black and
brown neighbors. And then we can rob them blindly and
reassert ourselves atop the food chain.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
And that was.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Met with less resistance than it would have been had
it been as bold as it is today. But they
when you talk about trickle down, this is the trickle down.
They trickled that hate, that white supremacy down, and they
slow plated enough that right as those eight those eighties
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babies like us got grown and started voting, a black
man became the president, and that shook that system to
its core. They short circuited, they crashed, their circuit boards
were fried. They didn't understand what was happening how and
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some of them said well, hey, now we can declare
racism over. Yeah, there's a black man in the White House,
nobody else. And in some corner of the internet, a
white man heard someone say white privilege, and that poor
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white man said, what are you talking about? I'm poor,
My dad was poor, my sibling and my children are poor.
What do you mean white privilege? What are you talking about?
They have, they have affirmative action, they have all these
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opportunities that are being taken away from me. And I'm
being reverse racism and this world has been stacked up
against me. The president is black. What are they talking about?
And someone heard that man say that, zay yes, And
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then enough of them said it that somebody close to
him or the man himself, Donald Trump said, hey, I
know how to speak to those people. That black N
word president you guys elected isn't even American. And that
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statement and that sentiment and that momentum snowballed toy was racist, misogynists, bigoted,
adjudicated sex offender became the President of the United States
on the back of that hatred and that snowball and
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all of what we thought we'd defeated showed back up.
But we don't like to be one uped. So instead
of pointing at it as ugly and disgusting, we said, nah, man,
I'm glad they saying it with their chest. I'm glad
I know who my racist neighbor is now. I'm glad
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that it's less comfortable and less safe outside because racist
feeling emboldened and empowered and like they have allies now
because at least I know who they are. Like that mattered,
And then we got a gods end, a global pandemic
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where those same people, for whatever their reasons, convinced themselves
that the scientists and governments of the entire world came
together to trick them. Don't take the vaccine. It's a trick.
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It's a conspiracy, it's a hoax, it's a whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The plandemic I heard, Yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Of the scientists, doctors and leaders of every nation in
the world came together to trick its own citizens into
what to what end? But that divided us again, and
here we are in reverse, two three hundred years of
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people walking into a Popeye's chicken and declaring themselves better
by way of whiteness.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What a masterful breakdown, que well done, well done.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Like goodness gracious.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Man, well done.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Man, that was great, And forgive that long diet tribe.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That was the most condensed version.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Of that that that I could try to articulate.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That was exceptional. That was exceptional. What else could I say?
There's I mean, you said it all. I mean, I
suppose I have to say something. But yeah, man, that's
that's we've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's the Trump effect, you know. And the Trump effect
is a result of the Obama effect, you know what
I mean. And we have very different ways of looking
at this and digesting it and processing it and so forth.
But you know, from from where we sit, Obama was
good for the country and Trump is bad for the country.
And that's that, you know. So I guess if I
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have to say anything, Uh, there's a couple of things
I didn't want to mention as far as far as
the Popeye's story. At least, one of the things I've
noticed in my life is that the in word comes
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more easily to white people then the word cracker comes
to black people.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I'm sure everybody that's listening to this on the Black
Information Network, if you think about that, you would agree
that makes sense. There's like, that's not a word that
you know, comes up a lot. We don't. We don't
say it in our homes. We don't say like, we
don't even say it in such a way where you
think it's going to hurt somebody's feelings. Right most, the
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most people that I've heard use the word cracker are
white people around when they get around black people, like,
oh my god, they sound like such a such a
cracker or such a hunky. Nobody uses that. That's not
it doesn't have this thing that the N word does
when white people use it. And I think that that's
kind of that kind of speaks to the difference in
these words. Right now, a white person, if they want
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to insult a black person, that's like their go to.
So I think that word comes more easily to white
people when they're angry, then it comes to black people.
Then then cracker comes to black people when they're angry.
This is what I'm trying to say, and I'm a
thousand percent sure the numbers would bear that out.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Of course, there's no scientific way to research that from
where I sit, But just follow me here. The other
thing I want to point out, you know, because again,
this is like a Wusaw moment. We're trying to have
a positive moment here. The article starts by saying, Florida man.
Eh So, one of the things that I want us
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to keep in mind is that, yes, absolutely, this country
is still very racist. A lot of people in a
lot of powerful positions are racist. A lot of the
population is racist, or they don't care enough about their
fellow countrymen to not consume their resources right or to
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stand up for what's right. There's just it's a matter
of convenience for people who are operating at their best,
and for the people that they're operating at their worst,
they're just outright racist. I just don't like those people.
I wish they didn't exist, right, But there's another side
of this. You know, when you say Florida man, that
kind of paints a picture of some crazy meth out
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kookie whatever. This guy obviously his story is he's a
domestic violence person in order good you think.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The words Florida Man paints.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, well, lots in a news type of setting, and
when we're when we're you know, uh, covering the news,
Florida has like some sort of law where their stories
Florida and I think Arizona believe or not have the
same kind of law where their their stories, their crime,
their criminal stories, or if a person gets arrested, that
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story can be made like national and there's something to
do with privacy or whatever. So this is why Florida
Man became a trope because so many crazy stories come
out of Florida and it's available to the media to
like take the story and run with it. Plus, to
be fair, Florida has like very exotic animals and all
kinds of Florida man fights an alligator, you know that
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sort of thing. So there's these crazy stories about Florida Man.
It's it's it's sort of thing. I promise, I promise.
Look up type in Florida Man and you'll see everything
come up. And then times like Minnesota challenging you. Just
if I was from Florida, I'd be offended by it. No, no, no,
Florida people know this too. Florida man is it's Florida
man quote unquote is a thing they talk about on TV.
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It's a thing like it exists in the larger culture,
not just here. And if someone from Florida does hear this,
then they take exception. My apologies but just understands didn't
originate with me. This is something that existed in the culture,
and I just I understand that it does. And so
this article perhaps came to the Black Information Network via
that very specific media channel. And indeed there is a
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there's a journalistic article or coverage of this the Florida
man phenomenon, like why do all these crazy stories come
out of Florida? And the reason is explained in the article.
I'm sure you could look it up on YouTube or
something like that, but it's from a credible source, think
NBC or some big corporation. Anyway, we're talking about this
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Florida man with this history of domestic violence and and
all this sort of stuff. The whole country is not Florida.
The whole country is not Arizona. The whole country is
not California. Well country is not Texas, right, the whole
country is not made up of people who hate black
people or don't care about black people. We do live
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in the same country that elected Obama, the same country
that elected Joe Biden. And I won't say the majority
of people who voted voted for Kamala Harris because that
wouldn't be true. But I will say that I suspect
the majority of people did not vote for the majority
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of eligible voters did not vote for the reality that
we're living in right now. Many people abstain from voting,
and a lot of that had to do with them
voting with their conscious or whatever whatever they arrived at, right,
And to be fair, that affected both sides. Voter turnout
was lower overall. But I just I really saw how
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that the then current administration, their response in Israel really
affected kind of the youth turnout when it came to voting,
and it costs some votes, right. So I suspect that
there's still a slight majority of people who are not
like this Florida man. There's still a slight majority. And
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this again, I just suspected a slight majority of people
who don't feel like they should just go to the
N word. And you know, I committed that I'm going
to have We're going to try to be as positive
with this as we can. I know that we're just
kind of doing this on the fly, But these stories
are interesting because we do kind of need to keep
a finger on the pulse of that kind of disgusting underbelly,
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that undercurrent that exists that reminds us how awful this
country can be. But in this moment, I want us
to also bear in mind that there is another side
to it, and we're not living in that moment right now,
of course, but I don't want us to forget that
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it exists, and so that's what I will say. But yeah,
Florida Man is a real thing. So I guess we'll
leave it there. Anything you guys want to add, do
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