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A man who needs no introduction.
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All Right, first up, this from the Black Information Network.
Former President Barack Obama praised Harvard University for resisting pressure
from the Trump administration to comply with unlawful demands as
the school faces a funding freeze. Per ABC News, On Monday,
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April fourteenth, Harvard University said that it was declining to
follow a series of demands from the Trump administration related
to its alleged inaction on anti Semitism. The administration's Joint
Task Force to Combat Anti Semitism then announced a multi
billion dollar freeze on funding at the university. Obama, a
Harvard Law School of praise the university for resisting the
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Trump administration's demands, quote, Harvard has set an example for
other high ed institutions rejecting an unlawful and hanm handed
attempt to stifle academic freedom while taking concrete steps to
make sure all students at Harvard can benefit from an
environment of intellectual inquiry, rigorous debate, and mutual respect unquote.
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He goes on to say, let's hope other institutions follow suit.
So a lot of good news there. You know, it's
always good to hear from Obama. But you know, Harvard,
I mean, when you think of higher institution, like higher learning,
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institutions of higher learning, and you think of like the
best in the world, I would imagine Harvard is probably
the first name that comes to most people's minds, you know.
And for them to adopt this posture to resist Donald Trump,
to me, suggests that they have come to terms with
the fact that they might have to do more with less,
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but they are not going to compromise their values, especially
because they exist to educate and education is based on
sharing ideas or at least the best quality education.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And so I say, cheers to Harvard. Part of this
story is refreshing. Part of the story makes me wonder. Right,
Harvard was at the center of a massive affirmative action
case a couple of years ago, right, And as a
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result of that case, kind of got rid of its
policies that offered some form of access to higher education
to some people who wouldn't have otherwise had that access.
But Harvard famously has about fifty billion dollar endowment, so
they can afford to even if they don't agree with
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what the administration is doing, simply say we don't feel
like participating with your agenda, right, And I think that's
what I thought or hoped that some of these corporations
and institutions that have just bent the knee, without any persuasion,
without any pressure, and without any resistance to what could
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have been said pressure, just caved and gave in to
straightforwardly mean like I don't want to use a more
fancy word than me, my mean spirited decisions being made
by this administration to exclude and oppress and deny access
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to so many marginalized groups of people in this country.
So it is refreshing that an institution like Harvard, with
its reputation and with its history on a matter like
this or a topic like this, decided, you know what,
we don't have to participate in what it is that
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you have going on. We don't have to oppress people,
We don't have to be mean to people. We don't
have to deny education and research and the ability to disagree,
and the ability to learn, and the ability to have
discoursed it, the ability to explore, for those who come
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to our institution to have access to unrestricted information, to
keep our scholastic integrity intact. We are not going to
just cave into what you want and keep your couple
billion dollars. We got it. Yes, I hoped and wished
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so many others would have done the same, or at
least had have had to be pressured to fall in line.
But so many institutions, so many corporations, and so many people,
without any pressure at all, voluntarily jumped on the same
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side as this administration. And it's been a really saddening
and discouraged thing to witness. Similar to you, every time
I hear Barack Obama's name, I smile a little bit
and I just remember how critical we were of him,
and I mean us, somehow, wasn't good enough?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Wasn't black enough? Us meaning black people?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Us meaning black people. I thought you meant like us,
like me, and you I was like.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, no, no, but black people, as a collector, I know
what you mean to this day still want there to
be chinks in his arm, or want to point out
every mistake they think he made, or every every every
place they think he came up short. And I think
that's because we've been through so much in the history
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of this country. A lot of black people hoped that
once we got that seat, that we would have behaved
the way that Donald Trump has, Yeah, where we would
have taken up a specifically exclusively black agenda and pushed
it forward at all costs. Forget what everybody else is on.
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This is what we're on. People wanted reparations to come
from his presidency. People wanted a a a gross swing
of the imbalance of power to happen under his presidency,
and for him to ignore all the checks and balances
and just bulldozed through his own policies and ideas. And
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what he did is remain a decent person. And unfortunately,
because this is how it works, he was a politician
and a diplomatic politician, yep, but a reminder of what
a decent human being looked like in that role. We
have this thing about not ever being able to identify
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greatness in real time. Lebron James can't be the greatest
because Michael Jordan was thirty years ago. Obama can't be
this because Martin Luther King was fifty years ago. You know,
whatever is great now can't be that great because Nestorian
remembers back to what we remember when we were younger
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or before our time things. Is a greatly underappreciated figure
in history, and hopefully one day people will look back
and realize how historic and how inspiring he was, especially
in contrast to what we're dealing with now. I'd go
with that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I also want to make a note here that we're
going to be doing a much deeper dive on this
Harvard story for Civic Cipher this weekend. So for those
who have not subscribed to our podcast, Civic Cipher right
here wherever we're getting this podcast, please do so subscribe
there and then you'll be able to hear a more
in depth conversation about Harvard and Russell talking about the
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National Museum of African American History and Culture. So yeah,
check that out, all right. Next up this from the
Black Information Network, Ed Martin, who is currently serving as
the Interim US Attorney of the District of Columbia while
waiting Senate confirmation. Is under fire for claiming he was
fired from CNN due to quote Crazy Black Ladies. Martin
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made the claim about his twenty eighteen ouster from CNN
during an interview on TNT's Limbit Pick Show.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I was a CNN contributor slash commenter for about a year.
I got fired because the crazy Black Ladies demanded I'd
be fired because I didn't take their nonsense literally. That happened,
Martin said, per Newsweek, Martin was brought on by CNN
to replace conservative commenter Jeffrey Lord, who exited the network
after tweeting a Nazi salute aimed at the head of
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the liberal media watchdog group Media Matters for America. The
reason behind Martin's firing in twenty eighteen remains unclear, but
the move came after he reportedly called some of his
fellow panelists on his radio show black racists. Democrats are
now trying to block Martin's confirmation as US Attorney of
the District of Columbia. Since serving in his interim role,
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Martin has dismissed January sixth capital riot cases, fired prosecutors
involved in the investigations, and taken aim at his and
Trump's political adversaries. I'll go first year. First of all,
I don't know this guy. What I know about him
is this, okay, you know, crazy black ladies and uh,
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you know calling uh. I would imagine these are just
kind of passionate black advocate activists or you know, prominent
I guess relative to the culture of this country, radical
black you know, perhaps feminists, thinkers, et cetera. That he
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feels like he's not racist. He feels like everyone starts
at zero and everyone has the same opportunities, you know,
that kind of you got the same twenty four hours
in the day as me type of mentality. And he
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probably thinks that these people are crazy for viewing the
world the way that they do. I'll say we do,
because it's more than likely that I probably view the
world the same way those black, crazy black ladies do
because I'm black. I have a decidedly black experience in
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this country. Now, the one place where you kind of
lose me is the Nazi salute, because you know, Nazi
salutes are decidedly racist. Right, But for the sake of argument,
we're going to say that this person doesn't think that
he's racist, he just agrees with far right ideology and whatever.
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And the only reason I'm going with this is because
he's been able to ascend to some fairly high heights.
And you either have to be really good at covering
up your racist well, you don't have to be really
good at covering up your racism, but you have to
have some sort of plausible excuse for your racism. And
and he's done it in multiple lanes, so not just CNN,
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but you know, politics, Politics is really easy to be racist,
but CNN is a place where I imagine that that
might be a little tougher. So again, for the sake
of argument, we'll say that this guy doesn't think that
he's racist. Now, you and I know otherwise we would
we would argue otherwise, but we'll say that. Okay, So
I want to make a connection here between this man
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and a lot of other people, mostly white men, who
feel the way that this man feels that, you know,
the world is more or less equal, and they ignore
data and they ignore outcomes and so forth, and they
do things like blame culture. You have a toxic culture,
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Your culture is inferior, and that gives them an excuse
to you know, bomb a brown country or to interfere
you know, using the criminal justice system, you know, or
or you know, a political persuasion or lack thereof, or
whatever interfere in the lives of marginalized communities. And I
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say all of this to say that to those people
who often hide behind that argument, those people that always
point out to you and meek you, why don't why
don't you guys care about Chicago like we don't care
about Chicago and the goings on in Chicago. Those people
that base their whole argument around the source of black
people's shortcomings in this country is an inferior culture or
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toxic culture. I want to be able to say, did
this man and everyone like him that poverty shapes culture?
Culture doesn't shape poverty?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Culture can can reinforce poverty, you know what I mean?
You know, if a culture adopts you know, whatever, but
but it doesn't shape it. And if we're talking about
poverty shaping culture, then what we're talking about is wealth inequality.
And if we're talking about wealth inequality at least in
the history of this country, and I would argue one
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hundred percent of African nations that are impoverished, you have
the hands, subtle or otherwise of powerful white men, and
I think we're right back where we started. And so
for a person to make this argument that crazy black
women are the reason that he doesn't have a job
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at CNN, for this person who perhaps has this opinion that,
you know, black people are racist, you know, for pointing
out the fact that history is littered with examples of
powerful white men not honoring treaties with Native American people,
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introducing listen man. We don't need to go into a
history lesson for the sake of this guy. But I
think for people like him having that argument is it
makes it very challenging for them to push back. So again,
I'll leave it with that poverty shapes culture. Culture doesn't
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shape poverty. So your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Ten out of ten, no notes, I'd just be repeating everything,
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Next up from Vibe magazine, the Bronx woman who was
recorded punching an anti abortion activist in the face last
weekend has been arrested. The NYPD has confirmed to the post.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Here we Go.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Thirty year old Breonna J. Rivers was a rest did
Thursday on one count of second degree assault for the
incident that found her attacking interviewer Savannah Craven and Tao,
a reporter for pro life advocate advocacy group Live Action.
The activist celebrated Rivers's arrest with an Instagram post, writing quote,
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just got word from detectives. Brianna J. Rivers was arrested.
God is good, adding within the caption thank you detectives
at the twenty eighth Precinct NYC. Hashtag blue Lives Matter,
hashtag justice is served, hashtag thank you God, unquote hang
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on you. Shortly after the incident, Rivers shared her thoughts
on the matter, acknowledging that things should not have turned physical,
while also accusing Craven and Tao of provoking her violent response.
The original clip found both women passionately defending their opposing
stances on abortion. Quote to Savannah, I sincerely apologize, but
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cannot sit around and allow you to continue pushing this
one sided narrative. I understand hands being put on someone
is never the answer, but throwing rocks and hiding hands
is worse. She knows the truth, and she needs to
release the footage in its entirety. Savannah is a professional antagonist,
not a reporter. The truth will be told, Rivers added
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via an Instagram post quote, I will not allow my
image to be defamed by this woman's actions. Anyone who
knows me knows how respectful I am. I don't even litter.
There is no way you believe I'm punching people for
disagreeing with my point of view. Unquote. So you want
to take this one first, cure.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I mean, this is a hard story to cover because, yeah,
enough information here giving it to you. Yeah, there's there's
not enough information here right the as you can imagine.
The blue Lives matter hashtag a lot that covered it.
We covered another story before where you gave the benefit
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of the doubt that far right wing doesn't mean racist
kind of does.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, I know, I know, but they don't know, like
they don't want that to be true.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But it's not that it kind of does like it does.
Like no, I know, I know what you're saying. The
lives matter hashtags have always been a joke, right, I'm
sure this woman hashtagging blue lives matter now probably also
celebrated when the J six people got pardoned. So it's
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hard to even imagine a world where she's the good
guy in this. You know, And of course you shouldn't
punch people in the face, But as no one ever
deserved to be punched in the face before, like as
our decent, he compels us to pretend that no one
ever deserves to get punched in the face. Listeners can't
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see me. But yeah, right, I'd love to have more
like I'd love to see what's being hinted here as
left out footage. Yeah, and at least to be released
in its entirety, I'd love to see it. Yeah, I'd
be willing to bet a lot of people would feel
a lot different. Well, I'll take that back, because what
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I've learned is that evidence and facts don't mean anything
to people who've planted their flag on a certain side
of the street. So never mind, there's there's not enough
here for me to know how to feel.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, I'll tell you this all that to say that again,
I'll tell you this. I saw only that clip like
everyone where you know, she asked one question and then
you know, the woman responded by punching on the face
and walking away and then she's bleeding.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
She's like, oh my god, that woman punched right, have
that whole reaction.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
So I saw that and there's a bloody mess and everything,
and I was like, oh my god. You know New
Yorkers are crazy, you know New York. That's that feels
very New York. That feels very Bronx or Brooklyn whatever
that video took place, Like, don't play with people on
the street, Like this is just not the place to
do it. So that's what I was thinking. But I
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thought like, Okay, this is wrong. I still feel that way.
You know, it's wrong because when when you have sort
of the moral high ground, which you know, both of
these people feel like they have the moral high ground,
But when you have the moral high ground and you're
on the left, it is harder to claim the moral
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high ground. Indeed, the morals that are consistent with the
story of humanity, that are consistent with the moral arc
of the universe, in my estimation, those morals often aligned
with values espoused on the left political left, right. So
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to punch someone in the face when you're a leftist,
the consequences feel greater than folks on the right. Right
folks on the right feel like j six people, and
the folks on the left feel like we're not going
to hurt people. We're gonna probably you know, maybe we'll
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like break a couple of windows, you know, at worst,
but we're not out to hurt people, you know what
I mean. And this is just my you know, people
could disagree with me, but this, this feels like the
reality that I live in. And I'm one of the
few people that still subscribes to a shared reality, you know,
like they if something objectively happened and is true, I'm
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okay with that. I'm not gonna pretend like the truth
isn't the truth, you know. And I've found that on
the right that is something that they often do simply
because it comforts them, you know, and comfort is not
something that we can afford in this position, you and I,
and we don't try to afford ourselves that luxury. We
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apologize when we're wrong. We cover stories that are not flattering,
particularly speaking, you know, all those things because they're true,
and we need to know about that, and that's the
only way we forge you path forward. So you're right
in that this is a very complicated story to cover
because you know, the the pro life interviewer. If we
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just took the clip by itself that it was wrong.
No matter what side of the political eye you're on,
that's wrong. You don't punch someone in the face, you
walk away. It's an option, right. But you and I
both know antagonists, people that will frustrate people, people that
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will fight dirty. And that's something that is very consistent
with folks on the right. And I have to imagine
the hashtag Blue Lives Matter hashtag, you know, pro life interviewer,
her values are consistent with those on the right where
they fight dirty and they you know, do things that
are I mean, Jasmine Crockett said it best to you
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and I when we were talking to her the last
time in person. She said, they do a lot of
evil blank on the right.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And so.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think I'm with you. Does she deserve to get
punched in the face?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Do I understand how she got punched in the face. Absolutely,
So I like you kind of have to leave it there.
There's really not too much else to add. So for
our final story today, this comes from the Atlanta Black Star.
A judge's decision to lower the bond for Carmelo Anthony
black high school athlete charged in connection with the slain
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of a white student at a Dallas area track meet
has ignited a wave of fury among MAGA aligned conservatives
on social media. Anthony seventeen, had been jailed since April
second for the failed stabbing of Austin Metcalf, also seventeen,
during a confrontation at a UIL track meet in Frisco, Texas.
On Monday, a judge agreed to reduce Anthony's bond from
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one million dollars to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
citing his clean criminal record and his upstanding background in
academics and athletics. The ruling, which saw Anthony released on
house arrest on April fourteenth with an ankle monitor, was
welcomed by his family and legal team, but online, particularly
in far right circles, the backlash was immediate and intense.
The online firestorm quickly engulfed Judge Angela Tucker, a Republican
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elected official, after she lowered Anthony's bond, a decision grounded
in legal reasoning but met with explosive backlash. MAGA circles
erupted into full blown meltdown mode, with social media flooded
by outrage, conspiracy theories, and racially charged attacks, many zeroing
in on the fact that Tucker is a black woman
in a position of power. So yeah, a black Republican
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elected woman lowered his bond based on the fact that,
you know, I think they do bonds based on whether
how much of a flight risk someone is.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
But also, you know, there are other factors.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
That you know, judges would consider, and sounds like the
judge considered a criminal history, and you know what he's
doing with his life. He's an outstanding student and an
outstanding athlete. The crazy thing is, first of all, I
know which comparisons you're gonna make, so but the crazy
thing here is that this is another one of those
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you know, change him to white. Does MAGA feel the
same way? So your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know, the thing that's really exhausting about what we do.
It's the answer to the question that you just posed.
Because no one's wondering the answer. Everyone knows it, we
know it, accepted and will say it we saw it.
They'll pretend it's not true until it happens and then
prove us right, and then pretend they have no idea
what we're talking about. The judge. The backlash over the
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judge is because when the right elects someone, they expect
them to have the same lack of humanity as they do.
The lack of empathy that they do, the hate and
the disdain that they do. They're not allowed to be
human beings anymore. When the human beings don't fit a
certain description. They care nothing about the facts in the case.
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They care nothing about how what happened happened or why
it happened. The assailant, the accused, the suspect is a
black person, the victim is a white person. Guilty, guilty,
no matter what the evidence shows, no matter what turns
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out to be the intent, the black person is guilty
and doesn't deserve mercy and isn't a human being, and
the white person was just minding their business and was
a good person. And even in the way that they're covered,
if you google this kid, and then they look at
the pictures that they show and google the kids that
we're on the other side of this, and the pictures
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that they show, like all of it is intentional, and
it's the same playbook every time, and it is grossly exhausting,
and the company has the company the country has spiraled
so aggressively one hundred years backward. Yeah, on race culture.
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It's really maddening that some of us feel like this
is the only place for us, right we built it,
so we deserve to be here, and we're holding onto
that so tight that will stay in this place as
it burns down around us because we built it. It's
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on fire, folks, and there has to be something else,
somewhere else for us. Yeah, because they are trying their
best to show us that this isn't the place. And
we're so defiant, we're so proud, we're so strong, we're
so forgiving, we're so empathetic, we're so long suffering, we're
so patient. We shall not be moved, we will not
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give up. But do we all become murders for this cause?
I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Well as it stands right now, not only are they
upset with Carmelo Anthony, but like I said, they're upset
with the judge too. And the only reason that this
is true to the degree that it is true because
both of them are black and this case has to
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do with a white child.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And you know, for more data on this, because it
often sounds like we're just kind of making up stuff.
But for more data on people that really want to
like do journalistically credible research in the way that Q
and I do, please check out the Equal Justice Initiative.
I believe it's eji dot org or something like that,
and it will give you the data on how often
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there is a conviction when the accused is black and
the victim is white, relative to the rate of a
conviction when the accused is white and the victim is black.
It'll give you the data on how often convictions are
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overturned for marginalized individuals, black and brown people in particular,
because cases when they're reworked show that there is judicial prejudice,
that there is police prejudice, that there's you know, all
kinds of stuff, right, And you don't even have to
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really if you don't, if you don't believe in the
Equal Justice Initiative, there is data, objective data that you
could find on any number of federal websites which we
cite all the time. You know, we have to go
to these places to get the data in order to
report on it.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And so is that data still available? Well, yeah, that's
a good point.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So you know that you know under this administration, a
lot of that has been stricken or will continue to
be stricken. But the fact remains that you know, again,
this is not qan rams this feel a certain way.
This is data, uh, and you know these are This
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is where our challenge.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Enters.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know, the conversation, right, because we have conversations obviously
to inform our people, but also we recognize and respect
the fact that there are non black people that listen
to this show and listen to Civic Cipher as well.
And those people come here to gain insight one way
or the other. They want to learn how right they
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are or you know, maybe learn how wrong they are,
And anybody that's here has at least a degree of curiosity.
And so for those folks, we want you to check
out where our source material is and then you can
explore further how they go about procuring that information and
so forth, and then you can see that we're not
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just making it up. Again, it's not Qan ramses feel
a certain way, you know podcast, this is the we.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Gotta deal with the real over here.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
So with that in mind, we'll leave it right there,
and if you want to talk more about this, find
us on all social media.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
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