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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sometimes we're just as shocked or moved or energized by
the news we cover as anyone would be, but by
the time we share it, our initial reaction has settled
a bit. Good for these stories, we want you to
learn about the news at the same time we do.
Welcome to another installment of And't Know Not you know Q?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Talk to me? Have you heard about.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This? One?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Tech billionaire and Donald Trump ally Elon Musk is reportedly
a paid subscriber to a racist account on ex formerly Twitter.
You know anything about that?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't know anything about that, but I can't pretend
that that's something that shocks me.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
All right, Well, let's let's uh find out how deep
that shot goes, all right, please? According to reports, Musk
follows Boer. It's a pro apartheid x account that has
repeatedly shared content disparaging South Africa's black population and calling
for power to be returned to white Africans. Musk, who
(01:11):
was raised in South Africa, also pays for Boer's bonus
content and extra perks as a subscriber. A recent tweet
from the account reads, quote, Africa has fifty four countries
one point four eight seven billion people on the southern
tip lays South Africa with the largest economy and best infrastructure.
Guess what makes South Africa different from the rest of
(01:33):
Africa four point six million white people. That's the end
of the quote. The Boer account also previously shared content
suggesting that South Africa was better off under racial apartheid
and touted rape rates in black ruled countries. Musk is
set to lead Trump's Department of Government Efficiency in an
(01:54):
advisory task force focused on cutting federal spending. He has
recently come under fire for his contra vircial comments on
x including last week when he praised Germany's far right
AfD parties, saying only it can save Germany. So that
is from the Black Information Network, and I thought if
(02:16):
you hadn't heard it, that you might have some early
thoughts on it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I had not heard that, But remember after the election,
when I didn't leave the house for a week or
talk to anybody for like ten days. It's because people
like this are in charge now, right, So like people,
I guess y'all can't see me, So these facial expressions
that that I'm making aren't really translating audibly. Very very
(02:48):
wealthy white supremacist run the world. Now it's like the
whole statement and the checks and balances and guardrail protections.
I mean, we saw the World Court call acts by
some people war crimes and then we saw nothing happen.
(03:12):
So like once that's the standard, Like I know we're
supposed to inspire hope, but I have to find it first.
Like these things are disgusting and disturbing and scary, and
I'm trying to say them with as sober a tone
as possible, Like we should be screaming and running around
and throwing things. And there's a movie on Netflix called
(03:33):
Don't Look Up. Everyone should watch that, and then everything
I just said will make a lot more sense. It's
just Elon Musk, Donald Trump, their entire collective.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
They they they're not even they don't even pretend to
not be racist, bigoted, white supremacist. And once upon a
time you had to to be seen as a decent person.
And I think they realized a lot of people who
think and feel like they feel and think don't like
that they have to only be that way in their houses.
(04:08):
They would rather be that way out loud in front
of everyone. And once they realized they weren't alone in
how they think and feel. They just came outside with it,
and then they won an election when they lost the
following election because millions of people died during a pandemic, right,
(04:28):
and even lose it, yes, stolen, so and that that's
still narrative that they implanted into everyone and dozens of
other conspiracy theories led to a very easy road for
them to come and actually steal an election themselves. So
(04:49):
someone like him is in charge now and it's telling us,
and it's telling poor people, poor people that voted for him,
that voted for them, because please understand, you voted for
both of them, and that was clear during the election.
It's like, it's not like we discovered after that Elon
was Trump's biggest supporter.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Like, no, that was said very clear, I'll give you
money during the millions on the line.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And you know, told people he would pay them millions
to come vote exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So you and I famously removed ourselves from Twitter, calling
it x's ridiculous because hate speech specifically aimed toward black
and brown people, specifically aimed towards black people, let's let's
be frank here, increased by hundreds and maybe thousand percent
(05:43):
under his watch explicitly with that being the intent. He
you know, covered it in free speech quote unquote, but
he really wanted those people to feel in vote.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
In fact, those people that are going to lean into that,
yeah the most.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So I wish I didn't know it, But I wish
I could say it was surprising or shocking.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's who he's always been, you know, and apartheid South
American and apartheid white South African, I'm sorry, and apartheid
South African, who keeps those same views that he had
all along and now has the resources and the reach
(06:28):
and the amplification to share that messaging with as many
people as he likes.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, what I think is kind of kind of
strange that I'm that I'm starting to see maybe I've
seen it the whole time, but it's starting to kind
of take center stage in my mind. I suppose, is
that a person like Elon Musk can look around the
(06:59):
world that he was born into because he was born wealthy,
because parents own like an emerald mind or something like that.
If I'm not mistaken, he took that wealth, you know,
went to good schools, invested lost of course a bunch
of times but you know, ultimately made it and then
made it and then super made it. Right, he bought
a company that already existed because he didn't found Tesla.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well multiple companies that invested himself as founder after the fact.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Right, But uh, what he did was he was he
was born into this world of privilege, a world where
he saw white people are running everything, and everything is
(07:46):
good for me. So this is the natural order of things.
This is the way things should go, and anything that
challenges that is bad because at least it works right now, right,
this is there there. I'm assuming this is a person
like his perspective and position on things, and he has
(08:11):
not lived in a world where Mansa Musa was the
richest man. He has not lived in the world where
you know, there was you know, black leadership that has
shaped you know, his path towards success. And so he
(08:35):
is moves to slow the dispossession of the wealth of
the world from white people. Is on brand and you
know for folks like us that can take a look
at it and be like, well, yeah, that does make sense.
(08:57):
It's scary of a title as that is, this guy
owns like one of the biggest social media platforms in
the world, and you know, a bunch of companies that
have government contracts, and he's actively helping shape public policy
for the United States of America and public spending at least,
and public policy and an immigrant. Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But but you know, he's he's at this really profound
level in terms of how he's able to influence society
in a number of ways.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And you know, the crazy thing is that there's there
is a point where you are so so rich and
so so far removed from a real life that you're
(09:53):
you're just out of touch with reality. And I don't
think that this is necessarily Elon Musk, but I see
that it is possible. I think Elon Musks has some
very sinister elements about his character, right, But I think
that it is possible even for a person who doesn't
have those sinister elements of their character to be so
(10:16):
out of touch with reality that they cannot conceive of
themselves as being racist, as being bigoted, as being all
the things that we are seeing in this example. Because
for them, it just works, this works better. But when
you look up at the other companies countries in Africa, rather,
you know there's higher numbers of rapes, and without context
(10:40):
and without understanding how these other companies countries I keep saying, companies,
these other countries have.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Been kind of one and the same in a lot
of cases.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, there you go. But in this case, countries have
been economically disenfranchised by global superpowers or centuries in some cases. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And when you guys hear us say colonialism, that's what
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's it. Right, So without that context, because that context
is irrelevant to a person like an Elon musket person,
you know, all he sees I was born, I had wealth,
and now I have extreme wealth. That's growth for me.
Everything is good, right. All the rest of the countries
are bad and poor and struggling, and people are barefoot
(11:26):
and blah bl whatever. And so this is the only
reality that I can conceive of that works. And so
without any sinister overtones, a person can be kind of
insulated by their own blind spots and their own inability
to conceive of a world beyond you know, what they
(11:47):
see in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'd say, as usual, you provide far more grace and
far more benefit than of doubt than I can afford to.
I think it's far more nefarious I don't think he's
In fact, I think he's an evil, bigoted racist. Yeah,
And I'm saying for most evil bigoted racist, it's evil.
It's not the Yeah, it's not that they don't know better.
You already have a billion, you already have hundreds of billions.
(12:12):
This is not aid. The only way for me to
be okay is this way. No, Mandela was in Elon
musk lifetime, so the lack of black leadership idea also
in terms of like direct impact, direct correlation, because he
was Yeller was in Elon's lifetime. He's older than us,
So Mandela is not some relic from the What.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean is by the time Elon Musk started to
because that part, I understand. I thought that myself. But
when by the time Elon Musk was on his own
making his own way, he was in the United States
and he was not subjected to Mandela's leadership. I, from
my agent livelihood, cannot afford to provide the amount of
(12:57):
grace and benefit of the doubt that you so eloquently do.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I figure you a higher level of human being than me.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, I think the outcomes are far more neferious, and
the decisions.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Are far more in neferious in agreement there.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I don't think it's they just don't know any better
and they just can't conceive of a world like No,
they can conceive of it, and they hate the idea. Yeah,
so they make it seem harmless.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That I think. The point though, that when I do
those is that I know that if I were to
engage with a person that was an Elon supporter or
some other billionaire supporter, some other a person that espoused
white supremacist ideas, that could walk shoulder and shoulder with
(13:47):
an Elon Musk, and I'd be there equal but hold
court with him like a Kanye once upon a time
did with Elon Musk, because Elon Musk doesn't look racist
to white people if he's sitting next to Kanye West,
because Kanye West is black, right, So to those people
in that space, I think different that binary sure, But
but I think in my mind the reason why I
(14:09):
make these, I allow that grace is for so that
it can fill in the gaps in the minds of
people who do not have the same lived experience that
you and I do. I think that your often your
thoughts and mind are very similar, and if it's you
(14:33):
and me having a conversation with each other, you know,
the listeners that agree with us, then I think that,
you know, the conversation is a lot simpler. These people
are indeed nefarious, and these people are X, Y and Z.
But for the people who maybe come to the conversations
that are seeking to learn something, seeking to gain a
(14:56):
perspective that they may not have, I think that by
allowing that grace, it allows the conversation to be a
little bit more approachable. Because I think if we just say,
you know, if I rams is just say on on
the like just flat out that hey, this is racism,
(15:23):
and these people are bigoted and they hate us, it's
such an impossible thing for them to conceive of, Like
how in the world, But how could you say Elon
Musk is racist? Because I've seen the way that's parts
of the Internet espouse Elon Musk, like he's this great
thinker and this great innovator and this great inventor in
this great this well accomplished businessman. And they do the
(15:45):
same with Trump, they do the same with all these people.
They like deify these folks, and so they cannot be racist,
they cannot be hateful people in their minds, and so
having that conversation with the full brunt of it, I
think sometimes might be off putting to those admittedly small
number of people who might listen to these conversations and
(16:06):
already have their mind made up that a person like
Elon Musk is good. People's now that in contrast to
a person like our manager. Shout out to Brandy one time,
who ended up buying a Tesla and you know it
was a good car. She thought, you know, it was electric,
she didn't have to fill up. Gasp, this, that and
the third and all the rest of the stuff happened.
(16:27):
This dude buys Twitter. This dude does, He does a
whole you know, he lets his true colors be shown.
And then she's like, oh man, me driving this car
every day gives me the ick. Me driving this car
is almost like a co sign of this man's behavior.
This is what this man stands for. Me driving this car,
as a black woman gives all of those people who
(16:54):
look at Elon Musk and say, Elon Musk can't be racist.
I don't understand why black people people always say everything
that they don't like is racist. It Me driving this
car gives them gives that argument more value. I need
to get out of this car. You know, there's people
like that that, you know, I don't think we need
(17:15):
to have the full conversation with like a person like
you know, our manager Brandy, and so you know it.
I don't love that. I do that. I don't love
that that it exists that we live in a world
where we have to play nice. I love, I do
love the fact real quick that you don't ever play nice,
(17:38):
because it's like, you know, if you remember with that,
you remember that show where it was a key and
Peel and there was one guy these like the Obama
anger translator, It's like, you can do that for me,
and you do it so well all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And I just but I can't provide that bail and
that cover for people who want to pretend they don't
know what it is and who want to justify their
own race ideas and their own kind of propping up
of racist white supremacist leaders and people by giving them
a false benefit of the doubt that they can then
(18:11):
internalize and say, yeah, see what rams Is said, I'm
not racist. I just you know, I've never seen it
be any different. And I don't have to go to
every place in the world where people are really poor
and starving and dealing with famine and poverty at levels
that I couldn't understand, to empathize with them and to
know that life should be better for them. I don't
(18:31):
have to walk a day in their shoes if you will,
so I can never be the person that provides that
benefit of the doubt. I want your conversation with me
to be uncomfortable. If you're racist, I want you to
be put off by it. I don't want you to
be okay with Oh, okay, this is a comfortable place
for me to talk. It's not. It's going to be
very uncomfortable over here.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I like that. Yeah. Well, if you want to check
out the full article, it's up at bi innews dot com.
The title is tech billionaire and Donald Trump ally. Elon
Musk is reportedly a paid subscriber to a racist account
on ex formerly Twitter. This was Hughes first Thoughts and
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Sometimes we're just as shocked or moved or energized by
the news we cover as anyone would be, but by
the time we share it, our initial reaction has settled
a bit. Good for these stories, we want you to
learn about the news at the same time we do.
Welcome to another installment of And't Know Not you know Q?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Talk to me? Have you heard about.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This? One?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Tech billionaire and Donald Trump ally Elon Musk is reportedly
a paid subscriber to a racist account on ex formerly Twitter.
You know anything about that?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't know anything about that, but I can't pretend
that that's something that shocks me.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
All right, Well, let's let's uh find out how deep
that shot goes, all right, please? According to reports, Musk
follows Boer. It's a pro apartheid x account that has
repeatedly shared content disparaging South Africa's black population and calling
for power to be returned to white Africans. Musk, who
(01:11):
was raised in South Africa, also pays for Boer's bonus
content and extra perks as a subscriber. A recent tweet
from the account reads, quote, Africa has fifty four countries
one point four eight seven billion people on the southern
tip lays South Africa with the largest economy and best infrastructure.
Guess what makes South Africa different from the rest of
(01:33):
Africa four point six million white people. That's the end
of the quote. The Boer account also previously shared content
suggesting that South Africa was better off under racial apartheid
and touted rape rates in black ruled countries. Musk is
set to lead Trump's Department of Government Efficiency in an
(01:54):
advisory task force focused on cutting federal spending. He has
recently come under fire for his contra vircial comments on
x including last week when he praised Germany's far right
AfD parties, saying only it can save Germany. So that
is from the Black Information Network, and I thought if
(02:16):
you hadn't heard it, that you might have some early
thoughts on it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I had not heard that, But remember after the election,
when I didn't leave the house for a week or
talk to anybody for like ten days. It's because people
like this are in charge now, right, So like people,
I guess y'all can't see me, So these facial expressions
that that I'm making aren't really translating audibly. Very very
(02:48):
wealthy white supremacist run the world. Now it's like the
whole statement and the checks and balances and guardrail protections.
I mean, we saw the World Court call acts by
some people war crimes and then we saw nothing happen.
(03:12):
So like once that's the standard, Like I know we're
supposed to inspire hope, but I have to find it first.
Like these things are disgusting and disturbing and scary, and
I'm trying to say them with as sober a tone
as possible, Like we should be screaming and running around
and throwing things. And there's a movie on Netflix called
(03:33):
Don't Look Up. Everyone should watch that, and then everything
I just said will make a lot more sense. It's
just Elon Musk, Donald Trump, their entire collective.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
They they they're not even they don't even pretend to
not be racist, bigoted, white supremacist. And once upon a
time you had to to be seen as a decent person.
And I think they realized a lot of people who
think and feel like they feel and think don't like
that they have to only be that way in their houses.
(04:08):
They would rather be that way out loud in front
of everyone. And once they realized they weren't alone in
how they think and feel. They just came outside with it,
and then they won an election when they lost the
following election because millions of people died during a pandemic, right,
(04:28):
and even lose it, yes, stolen, so and that that's
still narrative that they implanted into everyone and dozens of
other conspiracy theories led to a very easy road for
them to come and actually steal an election themselves. So
(04:49):
someone like him is in charge now and it's telling us,
and it's telling poor people, poor people that voted for him,
that voted for them, because please understand, you voted for
both of them, and that was clear during the election.
It's like, it's not like we discovered after that Elon
was Trump's biggest supporter.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Like, no, that was said very clear, I'll give you
money during the millions on the line.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And you know, told people he would pay them millions
to come vote exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So you and I famously removed ourselves from Twitter, calling
it x's ridiculous because hate speech specifically aimed toward black
and brown people, specifically aimed towards black people, let's let's
be frank here, increased by hundreds and maybe thousand percent
(05:43):
under his watch explicitly with that being the intent. He
you know, covered it in free speech quote unquote, but
he really wanted those people to feel in vote.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
In fact, those people that are going to lean into that,
yeah the most.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So I wish I didn't know it, But I wish
I could say it was surprising or shocking.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's who he's always been, you know, and apartheid South
American and apartheid white South African, I'm sorry, and apartheid
South African, who keeps those same views that he had
all along and now has the resources and the reach
(06:28):
and the amplification to share that messaging with as many
people as he likes.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, what I think is kind of kind of
strange that I'm that I'm starting to see maybe I've
seen it the whole time, but it's starting to kind
of take center stage in my mind. I suppose, is
that a person like Elon Musk can look around the
(06:59):
world that he was born into because he was born wealthy,
because parents own like an emerald mind or something like that.
If I'm not mistaken, he took that wealth, you know,
went to good schools, invested lost of course a bunch
of times but you know, ultimately made it and then
made it and then super made it. Right, he bought
a company that already existed because he didn't found Tesla.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well multiple companies that invested himself as founder after the fact.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Right, But uh, what he did was he was he
was born into this world of privilege, a world where
he saw white people are running everything, and everything is
(07:46):
good for me. So this is the natural order of things.
This is the way things should go, and anything that
challenges that is bad because at least it works right now, right,
this is there there. I'm assuming this is a person
like his perspective and position on things, and he has
(08:11):
not lived in a world where Mansa Musa was the
richest man. He has not lived in the world where
you know, there was you know, black leadership that has
shaped you know, his path towards success. And so he
(08:35):
is moves to slow the dispossession of the wealth of
the world from white people. Is on brand and you
know for folks like us that can take a look
at it and be like, well, yeah, that does make sense.
(08:57):
It's scary of a title as that is, this guy
owns like one of the biggest social media platforms in
the world, and you know, a bunch of companies that
have government contracts, and he's actively helping shape public policy
for the United States of America and public spending at least,
and public policy and an immigrant. Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But but you know, he's he's at this really profound
level in terms of how he's able to influence society
in a number of ways.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And you know, the crazy thing is that there's there
is a point where you are so so rich and
so so far removed from a real life that you're
(09:53):
you're just out of touch with reality. And I don't
think that this is necessarily Elon Musk, but I see
that it is possible. I think Elon Musks has some
very sinister elements about his character, right, But I think
that it is possible even for a person who doesn't
have those sinister elements of their character to be so
(10:16):
out of touch with reality that they cannot conceive of
themselves as being racist, as being bigoted, as being all
the things that we are seeing in this example. Because
for them, it just works, this works better. But when
you look up at the other companies countries in Africa, rather,
you know there's higher numbers of rapes, and without context
(10:40):
and without understanding how these other companies countries I keep saying, companies,
these other countries have.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Been kind of one and the same in a lot
of cases.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, there you go. But in this case, countries have
been economically disenfranchised by global superpowers or centuries in some cases. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And when you guys hear us say colonialism, that's what
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's it. Right, So without that context, because that context
is irrelevant to a person like an Elon musket person,
you know, all he sees I was born, I had wealth,
and now I have extreme wealth. That's growth for me.
Everything is good, right. All the rest of the countries
are bad and poor and struggling, and people are barefoot
(11:26):
and blah bl whatever. And so this is the only
reality that I can conceive of that works. And so
without any sinister overtones, a person can be kind of
insulated by their own blind spots and their own inability
to conceive of a world beyond you know, what they
(11:47):
see in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'd say, as usual, you provide far more grace and
far more benefit than of doubt than I can afford to.
I think it's far more nefarious I don't think he's
In fact, I think he's an evil, bigoted racist. Yeah,
And I'm saying for most evil bigoted racist, it's evil.
It's not the Yeah, it's not that they don't know better.
You already have a billion, you already have hundreds of billions.
(12:12):
This is not aid. The only way for me to
be okay is this way. No, Mandela was in Elon
musk lifetime, so the lack of black leadership idea also
in terms of like direct impact, direct correlation, because he
was Yeller was in Elon's lifetime. He's older than us,
So Mandela is not some relic from the What.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean is by the time Elon Musk started to
because that part, I understand. I thought that myself. But
when by the time Elon Musk was on his own
making his own way, he was in the United States
and he was not subjected to Mandela's leadership. I, from
my agent livelihood, cannot afford to provide the amount of
(12:57):
grace and benefit of the doubt that you so eloquently do.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I figure you a higher level of human being than me.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, I think the outcomes are far more neferious, and
the decisions.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Are far more in neferious in agreement there.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I don't think it's they just don't know any better
and they just can't conceive of a world like No,
they can conceive of it, and they hate the idea. Yeah,
so they make it seem harmless.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That I think. The point though, that when I do
those is that I know that if I were to
engage with a person that was an Elon supporter or
some other billionaire supporter, some other a person that espoused
white supremacist ideas, that could walk shoulder and shoulder with
(13:47):
an Elon Musk, and I'd be there equal but hold
court with him like a Kanye once upon a time
did with Elon Musk, because Elon Musk doesn't look racist
to white people if he's sitting next to Kanye West,
because Kanye West is black, right, So to those people
in that space, I think different that binary sure, But
but I think in my mind the reason why I
(14:09):
make these, I allow that grace is for so that
it can fill in the gaps in the minds of
people who do not have the same lived experience that
you and I do. I think that your often your
thoughts and mind are very similar, and if it's you
(14:33):
and me having a conversation with each other, you know,
the listeners that agree with us, then I think that,
you know, the conversation is a lot simpler. These people
are indeed nefarious, and these people are X, Y and Z.
But for the people who maybe come to the conversations
that are seeking to learn something, seeking to gain a
(14:56):
perspective that they may not have, I think that by
allowing that grace, it allows the conversation to be a
little bit more approachable. Because I think if we just say,
you know, if I rams is just say on on
the like just flat out that hey, this is racism,
(15:23):
and these people are bigoted and they hate us, it's
such an impossible thing for them to conceive of, Like
how in the world, But how could you say Elon
Musk is racist? Because I've seen the way that's parts
of the Internet espouse Elon Musk, like he's this great
thinker and this great innovator and this great inventor in
this great this well accomplished businessman. And they do the
(15:45):
same with Trump, they do the same with all these people.
They like deify these folks, and so they cannot be racist,
they cannot be hateful people in their minds, and so
having that conversation with the full brunt of it, I
think sometimes might be off putting to those admittedly small
number of people who might listen to these conversations and
(16:06):
already have their mind made up that a person like
Elon Musk is good. People's now that in contrast to
a person like our manager. Shout out to Brandy one time,
who ended up buying a Tesla and you know it
was a good car. She thought, you know, it was electric,
she didn't have to fill up. Gasp, this, that and
the third and all the rest of the stuff happened.
(16:27):
This dude buys Twitter. This dude does, He does a
whole you know, he lets his true colors be shown.
And then she's like, oh man, me driving this car
every day gives me the ick. Me driving this car
is almost like a co sign of this man's behavior.
This is what this man stands for. Me driving this car,
as a black woman gives all of those people who
(16:54):
look at Elon Musk and say, Elon Musk can't be racist.
I don't understand why black people people always say everything
that they don't like is racist. It Me driving this
car gives them gives that argument more value. I need
to get out of this car. You know, there's people
like that that, you know, I don't think we need
(17:15):
to have the full conversation with like a person like
you know, our manager Brandy, and so you know it.
I don't love that. I do that. I don't love
that that it exists that we live in a world
where we have to play nice. I love, I do
love the fact real quick that you don't ever play nice,
(17:38):
because it's like, you know, if you remember with that,
you remember that show where it was a key and
Peel and there was one guy these like the Obama
anger translator, It's like, you can do that for me,
and you do it so well all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And I just but I can't provide that bail and
that cover for people who want to pretend they don't
know what it is and who want to justify their
own race ideas and their own kind of propping up
of racist white supremacist leaders and people by giving them
a false benefit of the doubt that they can then
(18:11):
internalize and say, yeah, see what rams Is said, I'm
not racist. I just you know, I've never seen it
be any different. And I don't have to go to
every place in the world where people are really poor
and starving and dealing with famine and poverty at levels
that I couldn't understand, to empathize with them and to
know that life should be better for them. I don't
(18:31):
have to walk a day in their shoes if you will,
so I can never be the person that provides that
benefit of the doubt. I want your conversation with me
to be uncomfortable. If you're racist, I want you to
be put off by it. I don't want you to
be okay with Oh, okay, this is a comfortable place
for me to talk. It's not. It's going to be
very uncomfortable over here.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I like that. Yeah. Well, if you want to check
out the full article, it's up at bi innews dot com.
The title is tech billionaire and Donald Trump ally. Elon
Musk is reportedly a paid subscriber to a racist account
on ex formerly Twitter. This was Hughes first Thoughts and
if you don't know, now you know. This has been
(19:12):
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