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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been another busy news week and we like to
review the major stories of the week here on the
Black Information Network. Today, we are joined by Black Information
Network news anchors Morgan Wood and Brewood to discuss this
week's major stories.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is the Black Information.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Network Daily Podcast and I'm your host, ramses Jah. All right,
Morgan and Brie, welcome back to the show. It is
always too long in between our chats. Hell the latest
with you, Bree, you know, talk to me a.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Bit, listen. Everything is cool. It's been kind of hectic.
I've been super busy in my personal life here, but
very doing very well. I was sick for a long time.
There was a lot going around and I was congested
for like almost a month. It was ridiculous, explained. I
feel much better now and the sun is shining, so
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
All right, back in the saddle. That's what I like
to hear. And Morgan, I know a little bit about
what's the latest with you?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
But anything else I don't what is with them yet?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, I'm not anything else you want to share.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
No, I'm glad that Brie is feeling better and it
has been a busy news week, so I'm excited to
get into these stories because baby it's spicy.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh yeah, all right, Well, first up, Texas Congresswoman Jasmine
Crockett is under attack yet again by Republican leadership after
Crockett express criticism of TESLA CEO and DOGE head Elon Musk.
But as usual, Crockett is not backing down.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Brie. Let's get today's show started with you.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Tell us more about this news story, and then Morgan,
we'll follow up with you next.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
So, Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett, she has responded and defiantly
so to Attorney General Pam Bondi's warning regarding her criticism
of Elon Musk. So Pambondi cautioned Crockett to tread very
carefully after Crockett's involvement with the hashtag Tesla takedown.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Did you see any of that stuff online? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
So it's a group organizing nonviolent pro was supposed to
be non violent protests against Musk and the whole Department
of Government Efficiency or doche. Pam Bondy attempted to link
the group's protests to the vandalism and incidents that are
happening at TESLA, labeling them as domestic terrorism. So Jasmine Crockett, however,

(02:11):
spoke on her commitment to nonviolent protests and criticized Pam
Bondy for not addressing the January sixth Capital rioters.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
So it's kind of like she.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Pulled a flip flop and tried to twist it back
on her, like, well, you didn't do this, so how
are you calling me out? But the Tesla takedown groups,
they continue to advogate for non violence demonstrations and they're
urging Tesla owners to sell their vehicles and stockholders to
divest from Tesla. So I know this has affected Elon

(02:39):
Musk and the stock market has been going up and
down the past few weeks. But unfortunately, everybody is not peaceful.
Everybody is not nonviolent when it comes to this Tesla protest.
There have been several incidents across the country. Just for example,
in Texas, there were incendiary devices found at a showroom, explosives.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
In Oregon, we've.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Got molotov cocktails being thrown at a dealership, and in Colorado,
multiple incidents of arson and graffiti at Tesla and in Nevada,
vehicles were set on fire and shot at at a
service center in Las Vegas. So there are some people
going above and beyond to the extreme, and those attacks
have led to Tesla enhancing their security measures at their

(03:20):
dealership's nationwide period. So, yeah, it's been it's been hectic,
and I think some people are taking it a bit
too far. I understand wanting to protest and not agreeing
with what Elon Musk is coming in to do with
the government because he is not an elected official at all. However,
people have had Tesla's long before Elon Musk got into politics.

(03:43):
And some of the stuff that I've read about people
who are talking about their neighbors coming over, like hey,
are you considering selling your car?

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Or don't you think you should get rid of your carl?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Like that's a lot of audacity right there, Like don't
come up with property and tell me what I need
to do with my car because you don't like Elon Musk.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Now, it's a personal decision, and.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
If anybody says, well, you know what, my politics don't
align with his, or I don't believe in what he's
doing and they choose to sell their vehicle, will then
more power to them. But I think it's so childish
to hound people because of the car they're driving like
they're not Elon Musk. You can disagree with him, but
don't harass people because they have a tesla.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
That's just my personal opinion.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, Okay, Morgan, your thoughts here.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Furthermore, to back up what Brie is saying, she the
FBI is actually investigating those incidents. So it's like it's
we got enough to deal with. Like, but to Congresswoman
Jessmine Crockett, it has been a busy week for her
and I'm not just going to talk about the tesla stuff,
but you know, she also had to defend comments where

(04:44):
she her remarks recently during the Human Rights campaign where
she referred to her governor, Texas Governor Greg Abbott as
governor hot wheels. And for those who don't know, Governor
Abbott is confined to wheelchair following an accident in his
twenty So it's not even right you laughing, And that's
why she's in trouble that But yeah, this is but

(05:06):
you know, this is the thing about Congresswoman Crocket. She's
the clapback queen. You know, she never has shied away
from being this. She released a statement clarifying those remarks,
saying she wasn't thinking about the governor's condition when she
said that, but she was referring to the planes, trains,
and buses who have sent migrants to deep democratic led cities.
Many have called her to called on her to apologize

(05:28):
for that, but of course, like I said before, she's
gonna Stantanto's saying. She released a statement and she said
what she said. Another interesting thing that comes to mind
when I think about this. I interviewed congress Woman Crockett
back at in CBC, and you know, like I said,
she's infamously known for her clapbacks that tend to go viral,
and I asked her about that, and she said, well,

(05:50):
if her district felt like she wasn't reporting or excuse
me representing them, well, then it's their right to take
their seatback. And so that hasn't happened, and until it does,
she will forge on in the fight and continue to
do the things that she's doing the way that she's
doing them.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
You he, hey, you.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
What's going on the political state of the country. The
very very obvious and loud divide puts everyone under the
highest level of scrutiny for every opinion, for every statement,
for everything that they say. With regards to you know,
Congressman Crockett, I stand to protect her at all costs

(06:34):
because she's one of the voices that's speaking up on
our behalf when it seems like so many people aren't.
You have to be very very careful when you make statements,
especially things that can be misconstrued like that. I saw
that she put out a statement clarifying that that's not
what she meant. There's some who will hold her to
that and make that what they meant because it's in
their best interest.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
With regards to.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Is he the president or like the assistant president or
the like, is he president point five?

Speaker 7 (07:02):
Like, I'm not really sure his title.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I thought he was the first buddy, okay.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
First, the first best okay, so yeah, first, yeah, something
like that. We don't support him, but hundreds of thousands,
if not millions, of people bought those cars before they
had any idea where he aligned himself ideologically, religiously, politically right.
And by the time you realize he's an idiot and

(07:28):
a jerk, you've already invested, you know, tens of thousands
of dollars into this car that you can't just push
off a bridge. Because the guy who owns the company
is an idiot, So everybody has their opinions. You know,
we won't be going out to support him moving forward.
But it's a very very hard place to be when
you already own the car. And then he comes out
and says, hey, I'm a jerk. What are you supposed

(07:49):
to do?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, but you know, if I could just piggyback off
of what Morgan was saying earlier, they did fire a
file paperwork to censure Jasmine Crack based off of her
comments regarding Governor Greg Abbott.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
And so that Republican lawmaker is what is his name?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well, while you find that breed, just to clarify, because
I've looked this, scars are coming up a lot, right.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
It's basically something that goes.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
On their permanent records to say that they did something
bad and while they were active in their elected official space.
So yes, a slap on the risk, basically a fancy one.
And so the representative is Randy Weber, and he says,
our comments are nothing short of reprehensible, and of course
we said she denied referring to his disability. But it's
easy to take it wrong with the way she said it,

(08:40):
because the tone and your delivery is not going to
come across the way you mean it to a bunch
of people who are not in your wheelhouse?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like you are age, you're black, you can say, you know,
we might have known what was saying because her right,
it's like she using a lot of slang in words
that these old white men are.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's not translating. And so a lot of the I'm
not a child exactly wait a seconds, So.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
A lot of the commentary was saying, Jasmine just needs
to be professional and leave the jokes to the comedians.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Like there's several other ways you could have.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Said what you were referring to in regards to sanctuary
cities and Governor Abbot shipping people off by trains, planes
and automobiles. But when you say hot wheels and you
have a man that's been in a wheelchair for forty years,
you can't say, oh, I didn't mean it like that,
because if the tables were turned, they would definitely blast
the Republicans. And it just was not a good comment.
Nobody should have said it. She shouldn't have said it,

(09:36):
and nobody else should say it. Also, it's important to
note that she is being challenged in her congressional district
from a black Republican named Shuldon Daniels. He's a Dallas,
s based attorney, and he has been vocal in his
criticism of Jasmine, accusing her of being more of a
performer than a serious legislator, and he's trying to take
her seat.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
So that was also to Morgan's point.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
She does have some competition and if the v don't
like what she says, they won't let it be known
in Texas.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
All right, all right?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Next up, Actor and podcast host Malik Yoba raised some
eyebrows this week with his comments regarding how he's choosing
to identify himself when asked about his race and ethnicity. Morgan,
you and b both cover the entertainment news on the network.
So this time we're going to start with you tell
us more about this, you know, these comments from Malik Yoba,
and then Brie, we're going to get your thoughts next,

(10:27):
and then Q after that.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, so actor Malik Yoga Yoba, excuse me, actor Malik Yoba, Yeah,
we know him from NYPD. Uh, he's the detective Williams
from NYPD right, New York Under. I'm sorry he's the
NYPD detective from New York Undercover. He's also u Yo
Brenna from Cool Runnings, Cool Runnings. I see a bad mother.

(10:50):
You know what I'm saying that guy, Yes, I see power.
So Malik Yoba, he was apparently on a walk when
he decided to open his phone and talk to the
world and record a video in which he said he
no longer identifies as a black man. He said, America,
I've decided that I'm no longer a black man. I
no longer a person of color, BIPOC, none of that.

(11:14):
And he you know, used some expletives. He went on
to say that he would be he would rather be
referred to as a non white man, and he thinks
that we should all start calling ourselves non white, adding
that so they're going to have to figure it out.
Let them rebuke that, let them refute that, let them
come up with something that just says we like all

(11:36):
non whites, or basically, we don't like all non whites.
So basically, I think what he's trying to say, which
sometimes you know, it gets lost in translation, because this
we try to we all try to get on.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
The same page here.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
I think that's what it is, But what it seems
like he was trying to say is that if we
could just get on the same page and how we
identify ourselves, then maybe we could start to.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Move forward as a collective.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Houston rapper Willie D had an interesting take that he
shared on YouTube, saying that Malik is trying to say
this Trump administration has rallied white folks to come together
against everybody, and that's the only way to That's the
only way the rest of us individuals can stand a
chance is to consolidate our individual powers and make a
collective effort to what we want and where we need

(12:23):
this country and the administration to be. Basically, so, not
to get off topic, but this reminds me of a
TikTok series where the host where there's a host who
gets random takes from people in New York City subway train.
I think it's called like metro takes or subway takes
or something like that. Well, this woman once said that
her take was to bring segregation back, and first the
host was like no, no, no, like, what are you

(12:45):
talking about. And she went further into it, and she
explained that black and brown restaurants will have the most
flavor and how sporting events for white people will be
boring versus sporting events for black people, and then the
host started to see that, you know, maybe she's making
a point. So I think the truth is that, you know,
we know that black people aren't lacking talents. Black and
brown people are not lacking talents, smarts or anything like that.

(13:07):
So it is a matter of just I think, getting
on the same page, identifying ourselves however it is that we.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Do, and.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, moving forward, because I think that's what it boils
down to, is us getting on the same page. Now
what Yoba is coming up with is I think his
version of it. I feel like there have been other
versions of it, like Marcus Garvey's you know, route back
to Africa. Basically he might have been ahead of his
time on that one. But the bottom line is it
seems like everybody is trying to put their ring in

(13:37):
the hat or their you know, they're hat in the ring,
thank you, to basically say, hey, what can we do
to come together to get on the same page and
you know, move forward as a collective to get what
it is that we want.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
So I think that's what that boils down to.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Now, whether or not.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
He delivered that the right way is to be determined.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I think, because you know, the internet has the internet
is going to internet.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
So oh yeah, I'm curious to hear what bre gotta say.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah, what's up to mean?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's like Kendrick Lamar's uh, you know, halftime performance.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's like some people got it and then other people.
You got to think real hard. So what was he
trying to say?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
So, in my opinion, I think his comments, you know,
they sparked, of course, a range of reactions online, but
I think his intention was trying to just push for
like a deeper reckoning of how society labels and treats
non white individuals, and so it just kind of it
also reminded me of I don't know, have you guys
ever seen Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Really old movie that.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I watched much later because of course I wasn't around
for the original, but it starts Sidney Fourtier. He was
in an interracial relationship and he plays a character named John,
And the whole point in the movie is that as
liberal as his white girlfriend's or wife's parents are, they're
still having an issue accepting the fact that they are
in this relationship and that he's black and being black

(15:00):
is like the whole crux of the movie and how
he's dealing with that being trying to integrate into this
white world as a doctor. And so he has this
conversation in one scene with his father that says, you
think of yourself as a colored man. I think of
myself as a man. And so I thought about that
line when Malikyoba said that, because it's like, Okay, if
all black people went to that and not put our

(15:22):
color with everything, could it be possible for us to
just live and integrate into the world where color doesn't
matter personally. I don't think we've gotten to that point yet,
but I feel like malik Yo but just wants to
be seen beyond racial labels and would prefer to just
identify as non white rather than black, because it would

(15:43):
make people who have an issue with black say it like,
you know, either it's white or it's not white. And
so I just think his desires to focus on the
humanity instead of the color.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Like that's a great setup for what Q.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
If you're going to say what I think you're going
to say, I think that's a great setup for what's
coming next to so Q your thoughts here.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
We've long tried to figure out how to deal with
the social constructive race, and it's I love that you
guys brought up Marcus Garvey because his approach was really
the only one that I thought has some sustainability to
that end. As long as we are in this country,
we're going to have to participate in this excuse me,

(16:32):
in this race thing that was set up here. It'd
be like saying, we're going to start spending our own money,
but not the US dollar, this dollar that we created,
Like we wouldn't be able to participate here like that.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
If we all picked up and went somewhere else where, the.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Social constructive race and the way that it exists in
America didn't exist. Sign me up. I'll pay for y'all's ticket, Like,
I'll meet y'all there. But as long as we're here
and playing this game that was set up the way
that it is, we unfortunate and we have to walk
around as black people. I know, the solidarity thing that
he's presenting there, I think would have a massive effect

(17:08):
and a great impact. If white supremacist racist people had
to say, like I only like white and I hate
everything that's not white, but the system, the way that
it's set up, we're just we're not in a place
where we'd be able to collectively make that decision for them,
and as they control all the levers of power currently.
I really don't have an answer, but I do not

(17:31):
think he was trying to denounce his blackness. I think
it was more a challenge to the social construct of race,
the way that it's set up in this country. And
unless we're all going to pick up and go somewhere else,
we unfortunately have to play this game by these rules.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yep, agreed.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, I want to just add one more thing here,
if I may. But I do understand that, you know,
everyone kind of looking toward the most ideal form of society,
you know, where it's a colorblind, a truly colorblind society,
where humans can just be human and you know, and

(18:09):
so forth. And while I do believe that ultimately that
might be possible in one hundred years or a thousand
years or whatever, the critical steps that we need to
go through, and I think this is kind of just
echoing what he was saying, the critical steps we need
to go through.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
To get there.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
There's a critical process one foot in front of the other,
and to espouse the end goal without heeding the reality
of the journey to get there is an exercise in futility,
you know what I mean. There's no way to even

(18:47):
romanticize that, or I mean, I guess there's a way
to romanticize it, but it's not practical, it's not pragmatic
to romanticize that if we can't come to terms with
the fact that we have two or three critical steps
we need to take right now. And while I do
love the idea of solidarity between all communities that are marginalized,
I love that so much. I'm a big fan of

(19:08):
Fred Hampton and the Rainbow Coalition. As I famously stated
on this and other shows, I do recognize that, you know,
jumping over some critical steps in the middle, it doesn't
really stand up to the reality in which we live.
And I think that that echoes what you were saying,

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Black Information Network news anchors Morgan Wood and Breewood are
here with us discussing this week's major stories. All right,
next up, while most of Black America is trying to
deal with the stress of the Trump administration in a
positive manner. Our next story involves a Pennsylvania woman who's
accused of an act that's drawing bad attention to our community. Bree,
let's go back to you give us some more details

(20:55):
on this story, and then Morgan and Q we'll get
your thoughts next.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
This was truly amazing to read. The woman Latasha Brown,
the city allan toown. She's been charged with staging a
hate crime by placing a noose on her own desk
and then fossly reporting it as a racist threat. So
back in January, Brown claimed to have found the news
on her desk, which led to a major outcry from

(21:19):
the community and an investigation. Now, during the investigation and
consistencies in her statements and DNA evidence linked her directly
to the news. So as a result, she is now
facing charges for tampering with evidence and making a false report.
As of right now, Latasha Brown has not publicly provided
a specific reason for staging the hate crime. Because I

(21:40):
did look this up and tried to see has there
been any commentary from her or anyone in her family,
and I was not able to find that yet. However,
some reports suggest, based on the commentary of other people,
that she might have been just seeking attention or sympathy
for some reason. There have been comparisons between Latasha Brown's
case and, of course just Smallllett's incident. Both cases involve

(22:02):
allegations of staging a hate crime and a noose for
personal reasons. Smollette was accused of fabricating a racist and
homophobic attack in Chicago that was back in twenty nineteen,
which he still maintains despite everything that's come out is
the truth. And the Osendero brothers confirming that they were
paid and he still denied, deny, deny. They said they

(22:23):
were paid thirty five hundred dollars by Jesse to stage
that attack on him. And also what came to mind
was the incident involving the black NASCAR driver. I don't
know if you remember Bubba Wallace, but in June twenty
twenty a noose was found an alleged noose was found
in his garage stall at the Talladega Superspeedway in Lincoln, Alabama. However,
after an FBI investigation there, they concluded that the news

(22:45):
was actually a garage door pool rope that had been
there since the previous fall, long before Wallace was assigned
to the stall, so it was downgraded, not considered a
hate crime. They were like, hey, that's just the thing
that we used to pull the garage down. So I
don't know what to make of all. That's just like,
why is the news the thing that we go to?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
First of all?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Probably because it's the most heinous crime committed against black people,
but one of the most heinous rather But as far
as Latasha Brown goes, it seems like if this is
what you felt you had to do just to get
a little bit of sympathy or attention in your life,
you felt like you didn't have, you know, enough people
focused on you. Well, now you have the whole world
focused on you for the wrong reason. And the representation, unfortunately,

(23:30):
of being a black woman doing this, it.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Just looks terrible.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
The optics are awful, and you know, she's not a
reflection clearly of all black people or most most black people.
But you know, she made a dumb decision and now
she's gonna pay for that with some heart, with some time.
I think they're going to throw the book at her.
She's going to get convicted and be made guilty. But
what are they going to have her do? And then

(23:54):
what can you learn from this so that people don't
think this is the extreme you have to go to
just to get some attention. There's too much real racism
in the world for you to be taking a hate crime.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
That is what ticked me off.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Morgan.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, so insert the Tyra Banks meme where it's like.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
We were rooting for you, we were all rooting for you, Like,
are you serious right now? So you just can't be
part of the problem, you know what I mean, like
and expect to yield positive results. So at this point,
you know you're being watched at every turn, right, there
are cameras everywhere, there are recording devices everywhere, audio devices

(24:32):
transcribing capabilities. So that makes this investigation into this like a.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Kickwalk for authorities.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
So and then on top of that, you decided to
take the case to the authorities.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
And then turn around and say, you know what, never mind,
can you drop the case.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
I'm sure that in itself raised red flags for authorities,
And then as a re indicated there was forensics evidence
that supported that she was the own only her DNA
was the only match on the news, there was nobody
else's DNA. It's like, if you was going to think
about this, because we did see this with Jesse small Lett,
Like why didn't you think this through? But I'm not

(25:12):
gonna you know, I'm not gonnone and committing a crime.
I'm just saying these are things you should think about
if you're going to commit a crime.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
But either way, Uh, it's a waste of resources, it's
a waste of time. It's a waste and it does
not and the optics do not look good, especially when
you got people out here in the fight and this
is it just pulls pulls, pulls people back, It pulls
the collective back when stuff cute.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
B red you said it, there's there's so much actual racism,
there's so much, there's so much that we have to
deal with daily in real time that a thing like
this provides bail and cover and almost apologizes to people
who are actually racist, who do racist things to people,

(26:01):
so that they can point to us as crying wolf
when we are actually victims of hate crimes. Like this
is a disgusting thing to do. And like you all said,
for what amount of attention would it be worth it?

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Right?

Speaker 6 (26:13):
They launch an investigation into this person that doesn't exist,
and you get to be the star of your own
show or your own movie, or your own story in
your head for a few weeks or a month until
they ultimately realize that the DNA present is yours. And
then you get to look like an idiot. And then
every person who goes through something racist, they're measured against
you having made up this story. And those who want

(26:36):
to act like we don't actually go through these things
and that we always play the race card. They point
the situations like this, like look at them. They see
racism where it doesn't exist. We're in a post racist
America and they're always playing the victim. And stories like
this are infuriating. They'd be funny if they weren't so infuriating.
Like you all said, do a better job at staging

(26:58):
your own crime. If you're going to do it, it's
a pretty ridiculous thing to read and to have to
be her every day moving forward on, Man, don't I
don't envy her in that way at all.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I don't remember this is our last story.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Maryland Governor Wes Moore is speaking out against the Trump administration,
and it's apparent lack of discretion when it comes to
handling national security matters. Morgan, you covered the Baltimore, DC
market for the BI in so tell us more about
this story and then breath in Q.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
We're going to get your thoughts to close this out.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yes, yes, yes, everybody.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Come visit me in the great state of Maryland for
a moment where our Governor Wes Moore is calling out
the Trump administration after a journalist from the Atlantic was
added to a signal group chat about the US attacks
against in Iranian backed group the Hoho Thies in Yemen.
So Governor Moore spoke to CNN and later posted on

(27:48):
threads that it's basically He called the whole situation astonishing,
saying he and his colleagues have always took obsect, which
is also known as operational security, very seriously. Said there
are nineteen year olds who served in Afghanistan who took
security practices more seriously than this current administration and senior
members of this administration, intelligence and officials in this administration.

(28:10):
And at a time when public servants are basically losing
their jobs for anything nate protecting the nation's infrastructure, there's
people who have lost their job for you know, just
just about anything. I mean, we see we see the
cuts that dozes making left and right right. So the
governor is saying that people who are have been public servants,
who have protected the nation, they've lost their job recently.

(28:33):
But basically when it comes to this, who's going to
lose their job? You know you were about to lose
your job. Yeah, So who's going to lose their job
for this? And that's what That's what Governor Moore is
is pretty much saying. And meanwhile, to his point, President
Trump has blamed the app he has been he has
blamed the journalists UH jeff and the editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

(28:55):
He has blamed the publication, and he continues to express
absolute faith in the intelligence community. So he also claimed
the media is missing the bigger picture, with which is
the success and the effectiveness of the attacks in Yemen.
And then Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who was included in
this group chat. He also continues to reiterate that no

(29:19):
classified information was leaked. Now there have been calls for
Pete Hegseth and National Security Advisor Mike Walls, who was
also included in the group chat, and also took responsibility
for making and setting up the group chat for Waltz
and for heg Seth to resign. There have been calls
for both of them to resign and not to mention.
A lot of former intelligence officials are speaking out about this,

(29:41):
saying that usually when something like this happens, the person
responsible for the league will have their security clearance immediately revoked,
They will be removed from their position, and an investigation
would commence immediately as well to ensure that there was
no ill intent and that it was in fact accidental.
For whatever reason, these people in this administration just get

(30:02):
to get away with stuff. At least that's what it
seems like right now. We're only a few months in
and there are a few people, a few judges here
and there that are standing on tend but right.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Now it's like really taking away with that.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
So but yeah, to the to to my governor's point,
who's going to lose their job for this?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I'm I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
But there have been bipartisan calls, meaning that both sides
of the aisle are suggesting that somebody needs to be
resigned or somebody needs to step down and take responsibility
for the actions Free talk to me.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
So what I got from all this?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Governor Wes Moore, He's extremely concerned, mainly about the way
Maryland's economy is being impacted by the Trump administration. And
that's with everything that is happening. And to piggyback off Morgan,
just something else he mentioned where the tariffs, the imposition
of tariffs disrupting trade, particularly affecting the Port of Baltimore.

(30:57):
That's led to increased costs for businesses and cans, which
you know could heavily affect the mom and pop shops.
Especially the federal workforce cuts which Morgan touched on. The
reductions in federal workforce have had a major impact on Maryland,
and he says a large number of federal employees are
black and that led to economic or it's leading to

(31:17):
economic uncertainty and reducing spending in the local community, again
affecting businesses, a lot of black owned businesses.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
And the FBI headquarters debate.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Now that uncertainty was surrounding the relocation of the FBI headquarters,
that had created some concerns about job security and economic
stability that of course would affect that region, and so
the FBI headquarters were initially planned to move to Green Belt, Maryland. However,
President Trump recently announced that his intention was to keep
the FBI headquarters in Washington, d C. Instead, and so

(31:50):
that decision right there also had some objections from Maryland leaders,
including Governor Wes Moore, who argued that that move to
Maryland was selected as the best option for national security
and cost effectiveness. So that just kind of threw a
wrench and whatever plans he was trying to set up
to boost the economy in Maryland. And so additionally, I
believe he feels like President Trump's erratic decision making and

(32:16):
policies maybe have created some economic instability that's affecting the
broader community and Maryland's competitiveness and their ability to grow.
So I just think it's an issue of being frustrated
with the way things are right now, and it's it's,
in some people's opinion, feeling more like a dictatorship, yeah,

(32:37):
than a democracy.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Who's going to lose their job probably no one. The
idea of someone being held to account for this, someone
being fired, someone raising their hand and saying.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
My bad even is highly unlikely.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
And then the event that some when one does get fired,
it would most likely be someone that had nothing to
do with this, just so they can pretend that they're
holding their own accountable. What we've seen with this administration
is that they can't do anything wrong because there's no
one to hold them accountable. Their base sees no wrong
in any decision that they make, so their constituents and

(33:21):
those that vote for them won't blame them. They are
in charge of every lever of government. They're not going
to send you know, the Department of Justice after themselves.
They are weaponizing law enforcement to just do their selfish
capitalist biddings, so no one will be held to account.
They can do the most embarrassing things to themselves and

(33:43):
to their country, and the seventy plus million people that
voted for them will still applaud them and still held
them up as great and we will all watch with
frustration as they can break laws and you know, do
things like this where yes, you know, as a sibling
of more than you know, thirty years of Air Force service.

(34:04):
Just like you all said, in the past, someone doing
something like this, at worst, security clearances would have been revoked,
some people could have been court martialed or fired or
you know, you know, post investigation as to why or
how this happened, who knows. But with this administration, they
can do no wrong in their own eyes or in

(34:24):
the eyes of those that support them, So it's more
likely that nothing will happen, and all of us, you know,
just like good Governor Moore, will watch in frustration as
they get away with destroying our democracy, betraying our trust,
only to make themselves and their friends more wealthy. It's
a really disgusting thing to watch. But what do we do?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, I just want to point out one thing that
in twenty sixteen, Donald Trump and all those seventy plus
million Americans had a whole campaign against Hillary Clinton because
of her emails. And so once upon a time they
felt very strongly about you know, national security and all
that sort of stuff. And this feels like they're spitting

(35:10):
into the wind, you know what I mean, Like they're
spitting in their own faces.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
Getting if you're interrupting, rams's a bottle. I think they
took it serious.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Then, yes, things to just kind of this is how
you look.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
So, yeah, they weren't serious about national security then they
just needed to find something criticized.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
So here we are, with that in mind, we'll leave
it right there, so thank you both very much as
always for your brilliance and your insight into these stories.
Once again, Today's guests or Black Information Network News anchors
Morgan Would and Bree Would.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Thanks Ramses, thank you.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
This has been a production of the Black Information Network.
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