The Blueprint for Building Influence with Ray Daniels

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Every day I drive past McDonald's, an old National to
go to work, whether I'm being driven in my escalator
or my cyber truck is driving me, it's a surreal
moment every fucking day.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I used to work there. Now here's a crazy part, y'all.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
When you think that, you'd be thinking, like, yeah, I
came far, But the only far really went was mentally.
That's the part that nobody acknowledges, Like, I didn't go far.
I went mentally far. I just said, it's more for me.
It's more for me. I'm gonna do more. I'm gonna
go out the more, I'm gonna be more, and that's all.
And I became more. It's that simple. So for me,
it's like, if I can, I'm average as fuck, Why
can't any of y'all Because y'all are just not going

(00:34):
to try?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I will.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'll die on that tryhill.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Every day.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm like thinking the brain.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Every day I'm trying to take over the fucking the
world period.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Life is extra break tonight. How y'all feeling new faces here?
This is official? Happened, It happened. How's everybody doing tonight?
First of all, thank y'all for come out on this
damn monsoon. I don't know what was happening today, you
know what I'm saying, but it was all kind of
crazy weather. So we appreciate y'all for coming out. It's
gonna be a great night for those who don't know.

(01:15):
I'm Brandon Butler. I'm the founder CEO of butter ATL
also the host of butter Nomics. Y'all listen to button Nomics.
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(01:35):
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It just takes a minute, a nice little rating, a
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goes a long way. And also make sure you following
butter Atl. But tonight we got a really good night.
We're doing something really special. So I do button Nomics
live almost every month in the Gathering Spot. Thank you
to the Gathering Spot for helping us put this on.
It's gonna be an amazing night. But now I got
somebody really special coming out. I got a friend, a brother,

(01:58):
somebody I sit down with me on his office in Brainstorm.
We talk about all kind of amazing stuff together all
the time. And we've been working on this for a minute.
You know what I'm saying. We're supposed to do a
recorded episode, so we do better knowledge with iHeart record
right around the corner at the iHeart Studios. But I
was talking to Ray and I was like, Yo, man,
we gotta do this thing live. We gotta bring the
audience out, the culture out, because he is the culture referee.

(02:20):
So I'm gonna go ahead and bring him up here.
I want to introduce to y'all Ray Daniels himself, the
culture referee.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ray.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Where you at?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
My God, my brother there he is. So we're finna
give y'all a really special night. For those that don't know, man,
this is mister Ray Daniels and some stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Watch The God Show, y'all check out the God Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
They probably saw me talking crazy online before. They probably
just know me for that. How y'all doing? But to
see everybody, man, you.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Go viral like every week, bro, So it's just a
thing man.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Man, you know some of it.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I guess that's what they say. But I appreciate I
appreciate Butter for bringing me here though, Like he's one
of those guys. To me, this is one of those
guys that I really admire, and I think that as
black men, we shouldn't be afraid to say that about
each other in public, Like I admire you, bro, Like
I was just in there giving him all the praise.
I told him, I said, I might be hanging around
your office learning from you. So I like to say

(03:14):
that on record because that's what friends do.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Hey, man, for real man and real friends. Man.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
So for those that don't know, man, Ray is an amazing,
you know, just icon in the music industry himself, and
now he's taking over the whole podcast game doing all
this stuff. He's been instrumental in the careers of so
many artists from Lizo the Future to Italy Chopper to
just everybody in between. But like Ray Man, now you're
like one of the really one of the biggest podcasts

(03:38):
out bro. Like, let me just you just had Nick
Cannon at the office yesterday.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, but let's be clear, I'm a Burgo so we're
very big on like being doing something the right way.
It's very hard for someone to tell me I'm a
big podcast. So when my girl Mandy is in here,
she's to go.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
To this shit. I want to celebrate you though, seriously.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
YO, shut out horrible decisions.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh no, listen, listen, brother.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I'm gonna say I'm I'm gonna take that, but
humbly knowing that she's sitting right there and she's she's
teaching me how to do this thing at a big level. Soma.
I'm gonna just say that. I like to give my
first credit.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And shout out the horrible decisions.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Also on our heart decisions decisions they said, they said.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
We ain't give up money using horrible we gotta get
that money this time. There's way more decisions than horrible decisions.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Let's go, ray Man, how you feel today?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Man, I'm in Atlanta and it's a beautiful day and
I'm happy to be here. Anytime I'm in Atlanta, it's
a great day for me. I love it here, like
love it bro. So I'm good man.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Let's go now.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
We can talk about music and all this other stuff,
but I want to have a We're gonna we're gonna
pivot this thing and kind of continue the conversation.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I told you anything you want to talk about, Let's
go pray.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Tell these people, man, this ship is hard, like building
something from scratch. I think again, a lot of times
people see the viral clips, they see you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
They see the I would say, they see the highlights.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Social media is great at showing you all the highlights,
but it doesn't show you all the work. It doesn't
show you all the long hours, It doesn't show you
all the calls, the meetings and all that kind of stuff.
Like Ray, with everything you've accomplished and all the amazing
stuff you've built with the God showing this whole Ray
Daniels presents like, what's the thing you're most appreciative of
right now in this moment.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
The air in my lungs. I think perspective is everything
to win in life. If you can't appreciate something and
be grateful for something, then usually you mess that opportunity up.
And the simplest thing to be appreciative and.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Grateful for is life.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
If you are an appreciate for life, you ain't gonna
get Like, no, I wake up and give life my best,
like I don't want life to say, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's time to take his no no, no no, Like
I like this, I'm gonna keep working. I got it,
you know. So I'm in an amazing mood. I'm in
an amazing space.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think it's becoming loud and clear what the world
is and I feel like I finally, over the last
maybe like two weeks, have found I want to say,
my calling, my direction, my knee. Music is very hard
to like monetize because music is filled with broke people
who's trying to make.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Some money from it, you know, I mean, you know,
so when they it is right, y'all see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
So when you start, like start trying to do things
and trying to make money off people in the music business,
it becomes it doesn't feel good to me. I know
that sounds crazy, but I just I was once a
struggling artist, So I feel crazy taking a dollar from
a struggling artist because I know I was once won.
So I was just trying to figure out what I

(06:33):
wanted to sell. And I think I figured that out.
I actually no, I didn't. I'm just excited. Man, Like
I'm like, I'm one of the people where I like
finding reasons to like. I like waking up in the morning,
but I love learning like I'm like in my life.
I don't leave a minute, a cent, nothing on the
floor like I'm going for it.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
So I just love that.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I just love the opportunity to wake up in the morning,
go for it, and to answer you a question about
it not being easy. The hardest part about.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
This shit is smiling when you're struggling. But who gives
a fuck if you're struggling when I'm struggling too, so stop.
So as hard as it is, it's like, you gotta
look like it's together. You gotta look like you're not stressing.
You gotta look like you know where you're going in life.
You gotta come in room smiling. You gotta look like, yeah,
I might not have no money to pay my rent
right now, but I can't come in that room looking

(07:19):
like I ain't got no money paying my rent, because
when they through business with me, they're gonna treat me
like a nigga ain't got money pay his rent. So
I got to come in and looking like I'm up
to something, but also knowing I don't. It's a really
it's almost like you gotta believe it in your head
first and walk it out at the best way you
know how and almost watch the world follow. And that's
kind of what my life has been like, Like I
don't I don't want to be up here talking like

(07:41):
I'm a music guy like I go. I think has
been always behind the scenes. And once I started realizing
where the world was going, I was like, if I
don't speak, if I don't become the brand, I'm always
giving someone else more power over me because I'll make
them the brand. So for me, once I figured that out,

(08:01):
like if you look at all the big companies growing,
it's even like butter Atl. We've been seeing butter Atl
for how many years? Everywhere Brandon, I realized I got
to step out. I got to show people who to
face a butter At. I got to show them the
why of that. So I knew the way the world
was going, and I put myself out there still hoping
that I would get another job. That was the only
thing I wanted. My last situation, they did me dirty,

(08:24):
and I feel like I'm that nigga. So I was like,
put a camera on me, I'm asked me some questions
about music and a label is gonna see me on
Instagram and be like, man, look at Ray Ray's doing.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Why we even think about him? Let's call him? And
it happened. But it was like they were so I
guess I was so excited about it that I think.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, sometimes it's like you tell a girl I
want to take you out, She's like me, really, hell y,
Let's go like, damn, bitch, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like why the fuck going on with you? Why you
so excited to go on the day with me? So
I knew.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I was like cause I really wanted to be back in,
but I just got to this place where I'm like, man,
I'm so happy on the outside. I am a free nigga.
I say that with so much love and passion. I
am a free black man.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
No one owns me.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
There's nothing I can say right now on this stage
that makes someone say fire him from his job, because
I know the only person I ever that is what's
Taran And he can say craziest shit to me. So shit,
we all locked in. You know, I ain't lying, toront
be saying craziest shit to me. So I'm a free man.
And once you start, as you start asking for opportunity.
What you don't realize you're doing is you're giving up

(09:30):
a little bit of your freedom every time you ask
somebody for an opportunity. You give up a little bit
of yourself every time you ask somebody for opportunity. And
then you got to ask yourself, what am I telling
the world by asking for an opportunity? Pretty girls do
not walk in clubs and ask to get in sections.
Pretty girls who not walking bars and asking you buy

(09:51):
me a drink. That shit happens. And if no one's
not offering you by your drink, and you might want
to go look at how you present yourself because these
niggas is shricking right. So for me, if I got
to go out here and really ask somebody to fuck
with me, I'm like, what did I say it about me?
Like I believe if I'm not nigga, then I susted
still while I'm at and let the world come to me.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
And that's kind of why I'm at right now. And
I'm liking that shit.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
So it's a good feeling, you know what I'm saying.
It's a good feeling to be on the other side.
I think a lot of times, you know, one thing
I always say is the hard part is making it
look easy. You know, true mastery looks effortless. Like you
watch people, it's always funny, right, Like people watch the
NBA and they be like, man, they suck they on
the bench. Let me tell you something, bro, the last
player on the bench in the NBA would dust any

(10:34):
single person in this room with zero effort. I'm talking
about in jeans and Tim's and making it look easy, right,
But we see it on TV and it looks so easy,
looks so effortless. But that's because they've mastered their craft.
My question for you is, I went back and I
looked at God Show episode number one. Oh shit, okay,
August twenty twenty two, Like, what were you thinking in

(10:55):
that moment when you first started doing this almost two
years ago?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You in tears?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yes, damn you really.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
The first thing I say is is don't allow not
knowing what to do to stop you from doing something.
I think a lot of people are so worried about
how does it look, how to do it right, and
it's like sometimes you got to just throw a camera
in your face and say, let'soo the fucking podcast right
now in front of the world.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
And that's what that was for me and Tz. It
was just like Tez just sold his podcast license it
for eighty k I'm like, shit, I'm for eight episodes.
I'm like, I need to get in on that once.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
You come help me with my show. And I knew
I was doing something right because like six months later,
Tez called me like, man, I missed the ship and
I'm like, what ship you talking about? He was like, Nigga,
you I'm a ship. Now what people look at He
was like, yeah, you're doing go killing it. I was like, okay,
So for me, you know, like, but I just I

(11:51):
like talking. I really like this shit. I could sit
and talk for twenty hours straight and y'all forget Like
my biggest problem and you know this, and anybody's been
in my office, noticeiggest problem is I forget to eat
because I talk so much. So like I'll be in
the middle of me and I'd be starving. I'm like,
who come in the next new face, let's go and
and Chastity. It'll be like, Ray, you have not eating

(12:11):
and I'm like, find something me to eat, give me
a sumthing, and they'll give me like this much food,
I'll bite it.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
And be like, I'm full, and they'd be like, you don't.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm like, I love what I do so much that
eating is not even a priorty against that.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I thought that was just me. I forget to eat
like almost every day.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
How about this, if you talk to most successful people,
how are you remembering what to eat?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
If you didn't bring your lunch to work? Like?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
How do like, I'm being honest with you, how do
you like? I'm being like, how do y'all decide what
y'all gonna eat?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
And but if I don't know the decision, I'd just
rather keep working because I know what I know where
to do that. So yeah, my biggest problem is I
don't like it. I don't eat, man, Like, I'm hungry
as hell right now. I just, by the way, I
just finished doing big Fast podcasts for I ate this
much of the fish.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
They gave me literally that much, and I was like,
I'm full. Let me just get ready for bud Atls.
I'm like, and I'll eat after this. I'll figure out
what I want to eat and maybe everything clothes.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
But you know, at least the work is starting, like
you know what it is though, like I feel like
a lot of us, like especially black men, like I
want black men to start stepping up themselves for themselves,
like like not seriously, no, no, no, no, I don't
want no class for this. Because this I'm talking to
my people, my niggas right now, and I need them

(13:23):
to hear me. We got to start doing better for
our family, for our loved ones and showing the example.
Like y'all don't understand. I look up to this guy
right this because I see a man. When I see
a man that like, I literally I was just telling
him in the room. I'm like, Nigga, how do you
do anything by yourself like that? If I'm a one man,
I'm like, nig I wish I'll be having fifty people
around me, and I feel I ain't getting nothing accomplished,

(13:44):
and you got one by yourself, but you're just killing it.
So I look up to this brother, but I'm not
afraid to say that. I celebrate them. But we need
to start getting black men. We know what the world's
going to look like for the next four years. I'm
talking to the black men in the room. We know
how our women feel. We know America is gonna learn
about black women the next four years because when y'all

(14:04):
don't fuck with us, when y'all don't fuck with something,
oh nigga, it's a rap. I mean, it could be
a war going on and black girls. But I told
y'all stupid assets. Tell a man they black men don't
help them sit down?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
What we gonna do.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
We gotta sit down now. So I think we know
where the world is going. It's gonna be four years
of us wanting to be seen or want to be respected.
And I think this is not a fight that black
women should have to fight. It's a fight for black men,
and it's not a physical fight. It's a mental fight.
What are you willing to do for your family? Because
they gonna test us. It gotta have a stomach to
do this shit. You know I ain't lying. You gotta

(14:42):
have a stomach to do this shit. I just want
more of us to step up and be better to
the women in this world because black women are running
circles around us because they're not afraid to try. And meanwhile,
we're just trying to get masks from them when we
could really be their partners to help build them up
and everything.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We gotta grow the fuck up. I'm just being honest
with you. I'm just being honest.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Based on that, then then what's the while, Like again,
you have you have the look, you got the man look.
You don't need to be doing no podcast, bro.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
You got Dame Dash pulling up to the office, you
got an ll cool J pulling up, you got.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You know, just got the Songwriter of the Year Grammy
with sports Ronnie.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
I mean, there's so many opportunities you have that you
could be focusing on music full time. Yet you choose
to go out here and share your knowledge and share
your wisdom and bring this stuff to the world. Like
why do you prioritize that versus what you could be doing,
which is going somewhere and collecting millions of dollars making music.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Because I'm lucky. I'm lucky.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I remember, man, my mother would be driving school buses
right now if it wasn't for me. Like I don't
know what my sister life would be like if I
wasn't here. I don't know what life would be like.
And it's where like I gat it. My son turned
sixteen last month, and then a car and a party,
and I told you what I was dealing with, Like

(15:54):
all of this stuff. Like, so my fam my kid know,
Like I tell my son, like, yo, daddy stress, you
know that everybody be cool, but they don't understand like
daddy pays for the whole world. So my son tells
me he was like, Dad, I know you're gonna buy
me a car, but you don't have to throw me
a party.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Dad.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Like just I'm like, let me tell you something I
said when you were one. When you were when you
were born, I knew you was gonna turn sixteen one day,
and I was gonna buy you a car and throw party.
The shit I'm stressed out about it ain't got nothing
to do with you. I've been prepared for that shit.
This is a mother shit, right, So for me, is
very important that we handle our business and provide for
our family because the leeway we get them, that's the

(16:29):
only Black people don't get over the hump, right, And
we gotta be better men to our women. Like anytime
I see a woman at the bus stop, that shit
bothers me because like, what man failed her? Anytime I
see a woman struggling baby mamas, I'm like, what man
failed her?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Nigga?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Let me tell you us. I remember running for martyr
at nineteen with my girlfriend who was nineteen. It was me,
her and a mother. I'll never forget. We ran up
old National and I was youngest. I caught the bus
and then I made the bus wait like thirty seconds,
one hundred and two minutes for her mother. And I
remember getting on the bus and I remember thinking, this
is knocking be my mother fucking life. This is not
gonna be my life, running for no fucking martyr bus.

(17:04):
It's not gonna be my life. And you got and
I made the sacrifice to be here. But it's because
but everybody in my life they didn't know that. So
as a black man, like sometimes I'm like, man, I
take pride in seeing my mom not working, like not
having to ever work on my sister not having to
take her husband's shit or or say you can go
shit my mother. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
take pride in that, and as a man, the gift

(17:26):
that we should be able to give our families to
make them feel like they walking on our shoulders because
they are. Some of them just don't look tall because
we ain't fucking trying to do what's right by them.
I'm just that's my mission in twenty twenty five. My
only thing is I'm talking to black men about how
to be better than not just black women, but women
in general, Like we gotta learn to be better, We
gotta love y'all better, take care of y'all, and it's
really killing our egos.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
And you know, don't get me wrong. Once we do
our part, y'all gotta do y'alls all.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
We probably the only thing I think we probably gonna
ask is don't yell, let me be gentle, don't curse
at me.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's really because that's really what it is. Like that's
Steve Harvey. Shit. He's talking about she right.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
No the fuck she ain't my nigga, Stop telling like,
stop telling men like she's right. I want men to
be happy also, I want to push us to like
take care of our families and work and dog.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Nothing makes me.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Happier when I get a check taking that shit home here,
I don't even care about the money. That's real, Like
you give me a one be I can live in
my condo for the rest of my life. That shit
is nicest fuck and it's good for me. All the
housing car that's for them. So I'm big on that man.
Taking care of our family. So y'all see a lot
more of that for me talking to black men about
being better. We got to be better accountable. Partis toad

(18:36):
the black women in our community, and that's not and
by the way, that's not me kissing no ass I
really live by this shit like I live by this shit.
I take care of every woman like like Chastity. Now
to put you on black chassis. Moved to Atlanta to
work for me. And by the way, I love Chassity.
This motherfucker was walking to work and in Atlanta we
don't walk to work, so she never told me she

(18:59):
moved Hell and she was walking to work every day day. Yes, yeah,
So one day I called it. I was like, Chance,
where are you at? Because they said, she don't want
you to know. Why don't she want me to know?
Think about how powerful that is. She don't want you
to know because as soon as I found out, I
bought a car. The next day, they're gonna be fucking
walking and you working. You I look like as a man.

(19:20):
She was like, Ray, I don't mind. I don't give
a fuck. If you don't mind, wouldn't go walk for fun?
But you not walking to work? It's just not gonna happen.
You're not gonna be in my life or walk to work.
I'm sorry, I'm just not dealing with that.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
No.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Look, it's about options.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
And you know we were talking in the back, like
I said, I just I was sharing a book with
you that I read called Ego is the Enemy. And
I think there's so many things that we do from
just an egotistical standpoint because we don't want people to
know that we're struggling, whether it's with work, whether it's
with you know, personal issues we got going on, and
we got to get out here and show our best
foots in the world. But like, I really need you
all to understand, like this stuff is hard, you know
what I mean. Like again, like when you're building something

(20:05):
brick by brick, you don't know how it's gonna work out,
You don't know you know where the next check is
gonna come from.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
You got people that depend on you, like people like this.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Atlanta is really an interesting place because we've put entrepreneurship
on a pedestal.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
But I'm gonna tell y'all straight up, I know a
lot of stressed out ass.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Entrepreneurs man that'll take a day job right now if
you offer it to them, Nah, And I think it's crazy.
We don't talk about that now. And look, and I
understand that entrepreneurship is a path to wealth, absolutely, but
we don't talk about the stress that it puts on people.
We don't talk about the need that you have to
have the therapy that you're paying for to be able

(20:41):
to sit here and do these things. We don't talk
about you sitting up at night. I tell a story
all the time when I when I talk about entrepreneurship.
I used to have a chain of web design stores
and malls.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I had a lot of lives.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
But I don't know, if let's go. You know, I
used to be I was a software as year in
a former life, right, you know what I'm saying. So
I actually put brick and mortar web design stores in malls.
It was called the Website Shop. I had to suit
Black Enterprise for that. That's a whole different conversation. But
like I remember, there was literally a time where one time,
you know, I had payroll coming up. It was like Tuesday, Wednesday,
payroll was due on Friday. I had a full time

(21:12):
staff and I didn't have the money, and so I
never forget. I pulled up to the title pond spot.
It was on a Pea Stree industrial right across from
the Chick fil A over there, and I had my
old I had a two thousand.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Accura in ril.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
I loved that car man. It was black on black,
it was so nice. I had a sixty CD changer
in the trunk. You know what I'm saying. I loved
that car.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Man.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
I pulled up and I sat in the parking line,
and I looked and I was like, the only one
to make payroll is if I tit upon my car.
And I sat there in the parking lote for like
five ten minutes, and I said, you know what, fuck it,
I'm gonna go back.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I'm a figure it.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
And I backed out and I drove back, and that
same day some business came in and I was able
to basically pay the rest of my staff and lived
another weekend. I remember sitting up that night looking at
my ceiling being like, I'm gonna do this, Like people
don't talk about that part.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So I'll tell you guys a story. I remember this
is ten days ago maybe yeah, no, no, about ten
days ago today's knife Yeah, yeah, about ten days ago,
about two weeks ago. I ain't gonna lie y'all when
I go home on That's one thing I say, Like,
I got so much respect for entrepreneurs because when I

(22:21):
go home at night, you know you you give me
at your best every day, but once you go at home,
it's nothing you can really do besides sit with yourself, right,
And you know, I mean, dog, I've been having insomnia
for months, Like I can't sleep because it keeps you
up at night. And I started doing this thing y'all
that I that I started doing, and it it's kind
of like I can't believe I'm saying this out loud,
but like, I have this thing I do at night.

(22:43):
I always say, what do you tell the world with
everything you do? Like that's another thing we do. I
think we'd be so worried about people seeing us.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's like, do you see you?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And if you see you, that should be enough, right.
So I remember saying to myself, like what am I
telling the like? Like what am I telling the world?
So I had a moment where I didn't know I
may payroll this is like two weeks ago. Then I
had to ask myself, why do you need a payroll.
Then I'm like, what do you even do you even
know what you said? Do you even know what you're doing?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's like, no, you just that nigga that got money,
so you spend it. And I'm like, you know what?
I just stopped.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I was like, and then I remember saying, I gotta
figure out Christmas coming up. I just been fifty k
on my son car, fifty k and a party. It's like, fuck,
all this coming up, and what the fuck am I
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And it was like, God is like, why you worried?
If you believe in me?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
And I'm like, and by the way, this is just
me laying in the bed by myself, two o'clock in
the morning and I can't sleep. Then I start talking
to God like cause how you know I'm the Ain't
nobody helping me? And he was like, give it to
me the same way you feel like, because I take
pride in being alive, Like I take pride in knowing
that as long as I'm breathing, ain't nobody asked my
mother or my kids or anybody gonna have to kiss

(23:52):
as long as I'm breathing, Like, ain't know much pride
I taking that knowing that my mom ain't got to
deal with no supervisor telling her nigga, she don't have
to do ship for the rest of if and she
give whatever she wants. I take so much pride in that,
and God knows that. So God's like, you take so
much product taking care of everything. How you don't think
I take pride. You'll think I take pride and take
care of you. So he said stop man. I was like,

(24:13):
and I remember I laughed. I swear to God, y'all,
I like to be honest with y'all. Remember I laughed
because I.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Was like, there's no way this nigga gonna get me
out this one.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Y'all said, you know what you want it it's yours.
You're gonna get me out this one. And I wake
up and go to the office in the morning and
then I just get an email. I had a royalty
check come in fifty K. I'm like, see, he was
just worried. And that's happened to me so many times

(24:44):
where it was like I thought it's no way, and
then there was a way. And to me, what I
believe God was trying to tell me was stop hesitate,
just go forward, like and in our world, and then
and then and and have a life call. I have
an execut coach. And when she helped me understand was
she said, it's gonna be hard for you this time

(25:05):
around because you're already made the bet. You made the
better you won, and you knew how hard it was
to make that better you and you treat the bet
like I ain't never gonna fuck this up because I know.
I remember me and Tron sitting and Timothy sitting at
Saint Kroix saying, man, would you imagine what it be
like to have like sixty thousand dollars in the bank,

(25:26):
And were like, man, we've except at seven o'clock in
the morning, and now I get now my my overhead
is seventy thousand a month. You started looking at it like,
what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Now? It's not the clock point. I'm stressed, I said, y'all,
there's nothing to clap about. I am stressed. But my
point I'm trying to tell y'all is this is that
is that you have to be able to stomach it.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
And I feel like we all want It's like we
want God to show us something, but he's almighty. Why
we want him to show us something. He created, the earth,
he created all this shit, I should be showing him something.
And when I figure that out, I just like, I'm
so committed to leading my fucking people, because this is

(26:13):
the hardest time of my life, y'all.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
No money.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
You's talking about like eighty thousand dollars bills every month,
Like God damn.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
When I say that shit out loud, I'm like, how
the fuck are you surviving? Nigga? I'm like, I don't know, help,
but guess what. That's what a man does.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
A man gets above his ass every day and he
does what he needs to do for his family, not
knowing what's their return, and not worrying about his family
giving him a pattern the fucking back or telling him
they happy or appreciative. That's not what it's about. It's
about doing what you're supposed to do because you were
born to do that. You worried about the other shit.
So when we let me hear a nigga talbot what
a woman bring through for me, nigga, don't say that

(26:51):
shit around me, nigga, that's bit shipped to me.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
It's not even about it's about protection.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's about make It's like man, I love seeing my
kids and seeing how my daughter is just so confident.
She's the most confident little brown skinned black girl I
ever seen in my life. And I'm like, it's because
of me, and she was looking at me like, no,
it's not. It's me, daddy, I got this. I'm like, okay, But.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
To see how confident she is, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
You see people knocking, you know, when somebody knock on
my door, door, dash anything, somebody knock on my door
and then they'd be like, you know, I just know
they think some big white man gonna answer the door.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I come with looking like, what's up, nigga? Hey
that my wings? Give me that ship.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I'm gonna make them feel like that mat a nigga today,
I met a super nigga today. I really be doing
that shit because I really I'm being honest with you,
because I'm like, I'm I'm proud of the fuck I
am in standing.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
In my ship like I'm sorry, let me stop talking.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Go ahead, no, no, look man, look you built that
thing is funny man, Like you know, I don't talk
about this a lot, but my my, my, my godmother
is Angela.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Wimbush I love the dough. Yeah, yeah, well you know,
and you know Renee More as my godfather. You know
what I'm saying. So I grew up around I grew
up in a music business, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Like I've seen it, and so I understand kind of
what the overhead angle is. Like I remember talking to
him and being like, Yo, my overhead is fifty k
a month. And this was ten years ago. So I
don't even know what gets hired now, right, and again,
people don't understand what it takes to kind of go
out here and build these things. But more importantly, you know,
you're building this thing and you're kind of creating your
own blueprint.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Right, Like again, this media space is crazy.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know again, like you won the music game, you
know what I'm saying from an A and R standpoint,
from a music standpoint, but now you're going down a
totally different path. And you're going down this path, as
I always say, kind of like with a machete in
the woods, like figuring this thing out. Like you and
I have had multiple conversations about that, Like what made
you decide it was time to put that down and
say I want to I want to have a new challenge,

(28:47):
because most people in your position would just be like, Yo,
I'm good man, I'm gonna sit over here and I'm
just gonna piss off the folks that come to you know,
door dash every day.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, well, my life was really fucking good until I
wrote this letter and then.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Like Jerry macquire, yeah, no, it owns God. That's my
favorite movie. Let me my favorite movie. All If anybody.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Follows me, go back to when Tehran, if you could
find it to anybody, go back to when Tehran. Want
to grab me on my page, go looking When I
posted I posted Jerry maguire behind it. That was my
Jerry McGuire moment, because all I did was write a
letter to inform people on what it's like to be black.
But when you're getting pissed them, it's like if a
woman came here and said what it's like to be
a woman, I wouldn't feel offended by that. Tell me

(29:26):
how what you deal with as a woman, so I
could be better than you. And when I told them
what it was like to be a black person, they
turned on me. So at that moment it was like
now I'm in the outside, I'm like, damn, like damn
just because I said, like shit, you know, and by
the way, I'm the best guy over there.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's why I ain't. None of them niggas had a
hit since me.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I don't mind clap for that shit. I don't say
fuck y'all got sis. But but but my thing is
is that so once that happened, I was I didn't
have a choice. It was kind of like like I
was a I was a clear black man. That's how
I like to describe myself. You're gonna understand something right now,
Right now, at this very moment, you go to Billboard
dot com and go to the Global two hundred. The

(30:05):
number one song on that is US, not the number two,
not the number three, the number one song in the world.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
It's US.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Nobody can fuck with me at this shit.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
But I'm not gonna take your shit, and I don't
mind helping y'all as long as I can help my people. Now,
that's where the conflict came in. They didn't want me
to help my people. That's when it's like, well, damn, Ray,
who are you? You wanna be that nigga that make
ms and m's and m's and you're watching.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Your people struggling on you could did somemer.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
You're gonna be the nigga to speak up, and the
way my life is set up, I can't be quiet,
especially when I see people that look like me suffering
or not knowing what the fuck they need to do
to win, or knowing that they hiding the answers from y'
all over there.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm the nigga say the answer is over there. That's me, bro.
I want to make sure that I want to make
sure we win.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I always say I'm the most I'm the greatest average
man to ever live. That's how to describe myself. Like
nothing about me is super I'm not six feet there.
It's nothing about me that's great. But I've accepted who
I am and I just go harbor who I am,
and I'm doing great shit so if I can do it.
My own mother told me I want shit like not
being funny. My mother told me you ain't shit what

(31:08):
you're gonna do with yourself? And I didn't get mad
at her because my mother told her the same thing.
I had to break the cycle. I ain't know what
imagine me telling my kids you ain't shit. That's me
telling that to Miyoka, you ain't shit. Like I tell
my kids, they're the greatest thing to ever happen to earth,
because if they don't believe that, they gonna be ain't shit.
And now I was faced with that moment. My father
died March third, two thousand and two, on Delta, calls

(31:29):
me back to work. I'm driving to Delta, and your
father dying changes you because my father was the nicest
man I ever met my life, and he was so nice.
And my father died and my mother told me go
back to Delta. I remember asking myself if Bill Cosy
was my father, what I had to go back to Delta.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's when it started hitting you, like how the world
was set up for you, like damn.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
So my father was on drugs and because my mother
we on wealth, I'm making sixty thousand dollars a year
and ten years is a win for me.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Nigga. Please, nobody tells me what the fuck I do,
but me.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I quit Delta that day and I made more money
this year than if I would work every minute that
Delta from then to now, and factoring in the increases
and we I still got three more weeks worth of
money coming in that I gotta get coming in and
I made more money last year and the year before that,
and it's because I believe to me, So stop getting
fucking mad that people don't see y'all.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Do you see you? I'm so tired of people like
ray check me out, nigga? Do you are you? Do
you like you? Do you like it? How the fuck
are you asking me.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
To check it out?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I didn't do to God show and say somebody check
me out. I put that shit out there and then
y'all gonna like it or you're not. But I ain't
nigga file like the door.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Hey, I look you.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Showing you what you're telling the world. You're telling the
world you don't believe. Why are you so worried about
me checking it out? If you believe in yourself, I'll
check it out. And that's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
No, I mean, you don't need permission, man. A lot
of people don't know. Like when I remember when we
started better, people would come to my office like this
is true story. People would look me up, they would
come the out, they figured out where I worked at.
They would come to my office and they would tell
me you don't have the right to make content about
Atlanta without talking to me. Niggas no real talk like bro, Like,

(33:06):
I ain't goa call it on names, but I'm dead serious.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
People would show up at my office and be like,
I want to talk to Brandon because I was making
social media content to celebrate Atlanta. And they would come
to my office and say, who are you to talk
about Atlanta without talking to me?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
First?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Again, No, who are you? Because you haven't done anything,
you haven't made anything. You haven't But I gotta come
check it. We wanna check in over here. I gotta
check in for social media content. I gotta ask permission
to make an Instagram reel about the best places to
eat in Atlanta. I gotta make a I gotta get
I'm telling you, the level of it was.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
But I came from a different world too, right, So
it just didn't It just didn't resonate with me, you
know what I'm saying. So again, you gotta like work
through that stuff because again, there's a lot of people
that sit on the sidelines and wait for permission. They wait,
and a lot of people don't just take accountability and say,
you know what, I'm gonna put this thing out in
the world and if it hits, it hits. If it fails,
it fails. But either way, I'm gonna learned from it.
And again that's the way I've always looked at the

(34:06):
stuff that we build. That's why, that's what we talked
about us in the back. That's why I'm so proud.
And I know you said, like you see me by myself,
but I do have a very small team around me.
You know, shot that I guy Mike right here, run
the camera shot at Jaquela, Big Mike and Quay. Mike's
been believing for years, you know what I'm saying. And
again it's because you know, I do good business with people.
I look people to support me. But again, like I

(34:26):
don't need anybody's permission to go do the right thing.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
And I tell that if this one thing, if you
don't remember anything, if you remember one thing from today,
you wouldn't believe how many people just walk up to me.
And I think, God annoying me this person, because I'll
flip it back on. I'm like, yo, I want you
check my music gout. It's so fire, it's fire.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
You like it?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, So why do you care what I think? What
do you want me to do.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I want you to hear it.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Give me a pinion. You just told me. I'm giving
you power. Listen to my shit and critique me. Nigga,
I do you like it? Who cares if you critique it?
Who cares? Like? I don't give a fuck? What are
you telling the world?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Ask yourself that with everything you do, or how you dress,
how you carry yourself, what you say out loud? What
are you telling the world? Because we were praying for
one thing and telling the world something totally different. Yeah,
I just want this that I want my blessing to
come now. But as soon as it comes, you start
talking about it because it it look the way you
wanted to.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Look, what are you telling the world every day?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I'm telling the world that I want it and I'm
gonna receive everything you break, you send to me.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I want it all. Let's go. My hands are open.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, we have a church tonight. There's a lot of
people in here there. You know, they see again again.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Like I said before, you go viral almost every week, bro,
like you drop the bars you got out here.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
But at the end of the day too, there's a
lot of people.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
They probably want to start something, they want to build
something they see the kind of stuff you're working on.
You know, my question for you is you started the
God Show, but like now that you started it, what
did you wish you knew then that you know now
that would have made it even more successful based on
what you've had a chance to accomplish. Because like I said,
you have the rolodecks, you can get the names on there.
But it's not just about having the names. It's about

(36:11):
having the content. It's about having I think, and I
won't say something. One of the biggest things y'all miss
out on when it comes to business and social media
is consistency. Man. I promise you, like things will appear
bigger and more successful if they than they are if
you were just consistent. One of the things you can
say about butter Nomics is it comes out every single Tuesday. No,

(36:36):
we don't miss a single too. With Butter We post
every single day for the last six years. And I
think a lot of times when you go out here
and you do stuff, you know it's easy to miss
a day. Think people don't notice. But if you don't understand, like,
you build a habit with people and the moment you
miss it, you break that trust, right, So, like, what's
some things that you've learned in you know, the time
that you've launched a god showing all your platforms that

(36:59):
you wish you to have known earlier. They could have
made you not just me as a successful yoar, but
go even further than where you are now.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Talk to people.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I know I'm not gonna put it on blast, but like,
maybe like three weeks ago it was a chastity. Mandy
was in my office and told us how much you
made from Patreon.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm like what?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
And as soon as she left the office, I looked
at Jack and I'm like, why the fuck are we
What the fuck are we doing? I wish I should
have called Mandy eight twenty four fucking months ago. I
probably would have been had that money. So what I
would say is is, do let me tell you something.
It's so much power and vulnerability. It's so much power,

(37:36):
and you can't be vulnerable with everybody, but you can
choose me vulnerable, which means you could choose me vulnerable,
and then you could choose to turn that shit off immediately.
So I walk into places and things very vulnerable. Like
I'm not afraid to say I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
What you say to that is.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Gonna tell me a lot because in the music, when
I do know what I'm doing and somebody tell me
they don't know what they're doing, I'll be like, yeah,
you need to come talk to me, and that's why
you gotta hire me, cause you don't what you're doing.
Like I'm like Nigga, Nigga, tell me I know what
they're doing the music, I'll be like, you're doing just fine.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I'm just being honest.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
So and so.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
So the vulnerability has been my superpower because I'm not
afraid to walk in the room like you know. Like
me and I call Manny. We talked for hours straight
about Yo, what you think cause I'm like, Nigga, you
ahead of me.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I don't. I don't give a fuck. How many years
I got music? You to go and this shit? You
you you you can live off this shit. I can't
live off the god Show, you know, like I can't
well out of goshow making me eighty one thousand dollars
of goddamn money.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Ive been.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
When it does though, it's gonna be a different day.
But you know, I would say, like for example, Wallo
Wilo came in my office. Never knew why lo He
was like, yo, you killing it and I was like,
thank you. He was like and I was like, how
do you make money?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And this shit? Then he starts saying you.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
He literally talked to me about it like it was
like dum and then he goes and he literally called
me out. Wallow was like, I guarantee you you got
thirty to forty people numbers in your phone and you
can call right fucking now to make some money through
a podcast, but you got too much ego to call.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I was like, you're right, nigga. That's one thing about me.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't lie.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I'm not a nigga.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Like, no, that's not it.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
You don't know me. I'm like, damn, you're right.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
And I'm like, but if I'm not gonna make a
phone call for myself for him, I make a phone
call for If I'm not gonna make effort for myself.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
If I'm not gonna show up for me, who am
I show up for? See? The problem is y'all be
showing off for other.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
People like I show up for me, Like nigga, I'd
really be like, cause I'm the type of person why
I don't believe in asking God for shit that I
didn't at least try to go get myself. Did you
at least try, did you at least make a fun
did you do something? And that's just me, So I
would say, for me, what has made me life easy?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
For me? That's how I got Chastity. Chastity worked for
a huge podcast. I'm like, how your phone number? I
don't know what I'm doing, and she was like, this
is literally how I want how Chastity wind up working
for me. This is the true story. I'm a type
of nigga.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I'm like, I'm not like I'll say anything I say
on my Instagram if anybody sees me, if I say
anything personal, I want you all to know something very important.
I said it out loud to people who with me first.
I'm not I'm not the nigga that you find out
what my head is out on Instagram. So I've been
in a nigga in the room, like, man, if I
just had one, two and three, man, we could do
some damage.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I said to everybody, mother like, yeah, we could.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I'm talking about you. You.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
So here's not me Chastity I put on the internet.
I want to interview doctor Umar. I just I want
to interview doctor Uma. Anybody known't let me know. I'm like,
you gotta ask for shit. So Chastity hits me back
and says me, she I just met her. She sends
me his email. So I'm so I'm literally literally literally
literally this is how it happened. She sent me this email.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
So I like it.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
This is why I love you so much. I like it.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
But I say to myself, what the fun I'm supposed
to do with this? I swear to God, I'm like,
I mean, I like it, but like if I'm supposed
to do this.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
So then I guess she figured that out because she
hit me like an hour later. She says, do you
know what to say to him? I was like no,
she was like all right.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Five minutes later, Chassity sends me a long email. She
asked me a couple questions, said who's some of the
biggest guests you had on? And I told her, said
what do you feeling that?

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I told her.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Then she sent me a long email. She said, copy
and paste this and send this to doctor that email
I sent you. And I'm like, no, you can clap it.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
That's real.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
This by the way watch this though, so so I'm still.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Kind of like, say, at this moment, I don't even
care about doctor Umar. In the email, I'm like, who
are you looking?

Speaker 3 (41:29):
So she was like, what do you mean.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I said no, no, and we just talked about this,
like the hardest part to be about being an entrepreneur
is taking your hand off the wheel and let someone
else put their hand on the wheel. That's the hardest
part because what they don't tell you when you be
an entrepreneur is when you pay motherfuckers and they know
they gonna get paid the time they gonna get paid,
they don't work harder. And here's the thing about me,

(41:52):
I can't I can't wait. I'm saying this on record.
I can't wait to give Chassity her first million dollar check.
That motherfucker's gonna come from me. No, no, y'all are
y'all clapping?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Nigga?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I feel that's stressed in my head every day because
every time I come to the office and she's like, like,
it's just little shit working, Like the shit is this?

Speaker 2 (42:10):
This is ready? That's ready up? They sir, you know
how this shit is. You you've been around my team
is okay.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Shit gets done quick, quick, quick. So I'm like, hey, man, look,
I know I don't even know I can afford. I
don't even know if you care, but like, would you
consider moving to Atlanta to work with me? And she
was like, my dad lives there. I've been wanting to come.
I'm coming a sap nigga. That's why I talked, and
she moved here and she was walkworking. But my point

(42:36):
is this, and she's a self starter. You if somebody
let me ask you a question, I gotta take my
shades because I can't see who in here think they
can help me or Brandon with our business and make
some money.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Who in here think they can help us? Okay? Cool? Perfect?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I want you to keep y'all hands raise your hand
because I want you all to do something. It's important.
If you know you're gonna help us. You don't think
we want to help us, you want to You know
what y'all are waiting for. Y'all are waiting for one
of us to ask o'all for help. So if y'all
dropped the ball, y'all can say, nigga, you asked me
to do it. I don't want to do that shit.

(43:14):
And that's the difference between winners and loser because I
want whatever the fuck I want. I'm asking for, Nigga,
if you can help me make money, help, motherfucker help
we ever talking about you can help help? You know
what You're waiting for me to pay you to make
me It's like, you don't get it. You ain't gonna dog.
You ain't gonna win, if you ain't gonna listen, if
you're not willing to show up. And I've seen Troy here.
Troy know I ambushing, and you know I ambushing Troy,

(43:35):
because we work are artists. The artists that have won
has been the artist that were the most dedicated to
the job. Right or wrong every time, it's not it's
not it's it's not because they're not winning because they lucky.
They just understand the job, they understand the role and
they do it. Meanwhile, other motherfucker's like, man, I do

(43:55):
it to somebody payment. Nig You don't want to win,
you win, you wanna win. And you if you ain't
willing to show off to do a job, not willing
to get paid because you believe in yourself, the what
are you saying? It's only two types of ways to
get paid. In this world, you get paid for your
time and you get paid for your effort. Now, I
could pay you for your time, but guess what, it's
a limit on that because everybody got.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Twenty four hours. But if I pay you for your effort,
that's when you make more money.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
You make in Delta in one year than you made
if he was there twenty five years. Because I don't
get paid for my time, I get paid for my
fucking effort. And that's what I'm trying to teach, y'all.
I'm an open door chassis is right there. Don't come
to me telling me how. Don't come to Brandon telling how.
If you really are that nigga and you confident, let
me tall. So I used to work for this I
used to be a I used to pass out flyers

(44:38):
and I passed out fliers for this guy named Dino.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
If anybody who's from Atlanta, from who's Atlanta? Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Here?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So y'all know Metro Boy remember Metro Boys, And it's okay.
I used to pass out flyers for Metro Boys. I
only took the job, that's just because they said they
were starting a record label.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
So I'm like, you know what, maybe this is my sign.
I go work for the I start working.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I make eight dollars an hour working two hours a night,
and they gave you five dollars for parking, and it
was twenty one dollars a day I will make. When
I started there, all I did was walk up to Dno. Yo, man,
I know you want to start a label.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I can help. He ain't even looking at me like right, cool,
walk away. I remember thinking to myself, well, I'm gonna
have to run past him. Now, that's how I think, Like,
I'm not a nigga that think you're in my way.
I'm a nigga that's like, Yo, if I come to
you and tell y'all want to do something, you don't
want to do it, okay, well I'm gonna have to
run past you.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Passion.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
So what I'm telling y'all is that this is the
dream that's in your head. Is your dream.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
It's no one else's but yours. Stop acting like me
or but A have a responsibility to make your fucking
dream come true. It is your job to make your
dream come true, Like it's our job to make our
dream come true. And guess what if we all hustle together,
we can all make our dream come true. But y'all
be so worried about what's in it for you? Do
you forget the fucking dream?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I'm I'm twenty years next month January fifth, twenty twenty five,
will make twenty years in the music industry for me.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
January for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I'm twenty years in this shit, and I'm I still
walking around Humble hung like it's my first day because
I know what it does for me.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
And I also remember I was the nigga.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I remember how I was a nigga in the room
and I was willing to get the dog when I
started my podcast. If if Tesz swear to God, if
Tesz would have said, man, you could just be on
my YouTube. I just made eighty k I would have
gave him that shit. I would have gave it because
in my mind is like, I don't know what I'm
doing it.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
You don't have to do it.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I'd give it to you nobody, but nobody works harder
than me. And now of a sudden, I look up
and now I'm like, shit, I'm the Air's dinner up here. Okay,
I'm in a different space of the podcast land.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I'm in a room and it's people in here that
came into Hell's Talk that these are the moments that
remind you you're doing the right work. A lot of
y'all just want to hear you doing the right work
first and then get rewarded. M M.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
That's not how the world works. That's a job. I'm
gonna pay you twenty five thousan an hour to do this,
that's a job. This is different.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
This is you make the positive and you'd be lucky
to get a fucking payback. Yeah, But nigga, I'm I'm
I'd rather make the positive to me than make the
positive into another motherfucker. And that's what I'll be trying
to tell y'all when y'all show up the work. That's
why I was paying those people, and anybody who work
for me knows this. I want to make everybody around
me rich. I'm not doing this shit for me. I'm
doing this shit I give my money in my family. Nigga,

(47:13):
I'm good. I do this shit for my team, my family.
But if you're not giving me the same, what am
I doing it for you for? How am I working
hard to make you rich and you ain't even working hard. Nigga,
I got a community that I talked to once a week.
People that pay me to do that jack for my
team just start getting on the calls like this is
free game. You could just come get it, but we
got them already with Nigga dog. If Toron want me

(47:35):
to do something, I'm doing that shit right now. This
man then paid me thirty forty millions, so I've been manageing.
You think I am not gonna do what that nigga
asked me to do when he asked me to, I'm
thankful for that.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
But when I got people around me, I'm like, help, help, Help,
what's in it for me?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I don't go over there. You ain't gonna win it life.
I want to work with winners who don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
What's in it for fuck? What's in it for me?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
What's in it for me is the opportunity to learn
this shit firsthand, to build me my own shit.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
That's what's in it for you. If you think was
Infa's out my pocket, you've already lost. Well.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I don't know if people just caught the level of
game that you just put out here, bro, Like real
quick just gives men a round Flox that level of
game because I know it's skinning.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Game because I sweat a big see what's come out.
I mean, I'm really spent in that day.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
It on sweat. I ain't spent A.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Big part of this is just again like you people
don't I was. I was talking to my team today,
so again, like you know, I have an agency too.
A lot of people don't know that, but I started
an agency with Shaquille O'Neal about three and a half
years ago. We just won Multicultural Agency of the Years
coming out. Don't tell nobody yet, you know what I'm saying.
For the second year in a row. We sold thirty
percent for a lot of money to the biggest holding
company in the world about two and a half years ago,

(48:39):
which is a beautiful situation. Right, So these things happen.
But what I've learned one thing, and people don't really
get this. Now we really want you to understand. About
to say is nobody gets the job before they're doing
the job. And a lot of y'all are waiting to
get the job before you start doing the job. A
lot of y'all are waiting to get the promotion, and

(49:01):
you're not doing that. You think you just all of
a sudden you go from not doing the thing and
now you're promoted and now you're doing the thing.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
No, that's not how this works.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
If you're getting promoted, I promise you nine times out
of ten, you've already been doing that shit for six
months period and it's just catching up with you. But
people don't understand that part. Every morning, when I wake up,
I keep my phone on do not Disturbed till about
nine ten am. The reason why is because when I
usually check my phone, I get a lot of text
messages and dms that are like, I see this side

(49:32):
of people's hand man, I see hands out and again,
I'm here to help people. I understand that people are
in there asking season and all that kind of stuff.
But what I don't see much of is this side
of y'all hand I don't see people offering me anything.
Nobody calls me and offers me shit. Nobody calls me
and asks me, Brandon, what can I do for you today?
Nobody hits do? People hit you up and ask and

(49:54):
literally and again people. I think I understand that people
are in there asking season, they're needing season. I get that,
but here again, you get what you put into it.
You know, I tell this story all the time about
when I want to get in radio. I want to
work for Ryan Cameron back because growing up work living
in Atlanta, I want to work in radio.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Ryan Cameron is the goat of radio.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
He's been on your show, and I'm honored him, blessed
to say that we're friends now.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Like he literally texts me this morning. He texts me
a prayer this morning. You know what I'm saying. Like
I was on his bowling team at the at the
bowling things. That's like one of the biggest moments of
my life. The other week, I was on his bowling
team on Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
You know what I'm saying. And so, but here's the thing, right,
I remember, I want to work for Ryan Cameron.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I was listening.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I would listen to radio every I was driving to
a job that I hated, and I would listen to
this radio every day. He was on nine seven point five.
That's right when Mashaan a Lay started, CJ and Nikini.
I remember. I remember because I was there. And one
day he went on the radio and said, I'm looking
for interns, and if you want to be my intern,
I want you to fax me in a copy of
your resume. Fact not email, he said, facts or mail

(50:59):
a copy of a So I'm sitting here thinking to myself,
how to hell do I get a res a job
at the radio station because I wasn't working in radio.
I had no I had zero connections. Like again, a
lot of these people who were at radio, they've been interns.
I was doing whatever. So what I did was, I said, Okay,
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be creative. He was at
ninety seven five. So I went and got ninety seven
copies in my resume. I got ninety seven envelopes in

(51:23):
ninety seven stamps, and I mailed all of them at
the same time to him. He called me three days
later on the radio station, live on air and said, Brandon,
stop sending me your resume.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Godja. But here's the kicker.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
This is the part of the story I don't tell often.
And I meet him, had lunch a couple of weeks ago,
and I was telling him. He didn't even remember, said,
I said. The funny part is the very first day
I got that job at internship because I was you know,
I was out of college. I had a good job
in it, and so I was a little airy and
I ain't even front sure. So I wake up that morning,
I got my my little Honda Cord. I'm about to drive.
It's pouring down rating outside. He said, okay, you got

(51:58):
to be here at four thirty in the morning. I
drive to the rate. It was at the Cisons Trust
Bank building. If y'all know nine something used to be
the Sistans Trust Bank Building. I drive down there. I
get there at four thirty. This mo po don't show
up until like five thirty in the morning. So I'm
literally sitting in my car, sitting in the parking lot
way from the show up.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
He shows up.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
He says nothing to me. He's like, oh you Brandon,
all right, come on inside now. My ego's already hurt.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Like what you mean?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Like, no, no, we go in.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
He barely talks to me. I stayed there for a
couple of days, and I was like, man, you know what, man,
fuck this shit. I don't need this job. I was
making money. I'm going back to doing it and I quit. Yah,
maybe after about a week. I'll never forget. He called
me and he said, Brandon, I thought you wanted this job,
and I'm really disappointed that you gave up so easily.
And then he hung up the phone on me and

(52:46):
it took me ten years to get back into radio.
Now what's crazy is we're friends now. Yeah, And I
told him this story. We had we had lunch at Chops,
like last month.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
We were talking.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
I told the story. He was like, yeah, I don't
remember when you started, but I remember. And it's funny
like if Rashaun A. Lee was just on my podcast, like,
I'll look at these folks and say, you know what,
if I just would have stuck to it, if I'd
have put my ego to the side, if I'd have
done the job before I had the job, Imagine if
I really wanted that, Imagine what I could have been.
So my point to y'all is this, Imagine all the

(53:19):
things you could be doing if you just invest in
it and just do the work before you get the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I'm approved that you're right. I'm only number one.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Most people that want to be in music business have
been wanted to be and it's since they were younger.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Y'all know that, right. I didn't get in the music business.
I was twenty one.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I know that sounds young, but Ethiopia was interning when
she was sixteen. We the same age, so that lets
you know. I was seven years behind her in the attempt,
which also is that when I was there. But I
would say this, the guy that asked me to be
in the music business, he didn't make it. The second
artist I had, they didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
This was their dream. They just asked me to go
for the go for a ride on. If that don't
tell you, like, how is that? So?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Imagine you want to be a rapper and that's your thing,
and you tell your homie help you, and now twenty
years later, your homie is the man and you working
a regular nine to five, Like, how the fuck does
that happen? That happened because people saw me and they
was like, a guy like you would give a guy
like you a chance?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
You out of here.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
And I was just showing up for myself. But I
didn't have an option. It was like the music business
was the first time that I made a deal with
God in my life. I'm not lying to you as
the first time I ever made a deal with God.
I remember, I remember I wanted to be in the
music It was kind of funny games. I was selling
weed and then I got robbed and I had a

(54:53):
gun put to my head. And if anybody had a
gun put in your head at that moment where you
don't know if this person is going to kill you
or not, is very Your life flashed before your eyes,
and I remember it was like the world paused and
it was God was like, look at you. You said
you want to be in a music business. Now here
you are almost about to get killed behind a bad

(55:14):
weed deal.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Nigga, you don't even smoke. Why are you doing it?
And I remember it. It was a dramatic night.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
And I remember hiding under a house for three hours,
and the guys who robbed us was looking for me.
I'm in a bluff under the house three hours and
I remember three hours just laying in mud in a
cold night. It just reminds you you could be doing
so many other things with your motherfucking life right now. Nigga,
you wanner a house hiding? Are you ready to give

(55:40):
it all you got? And I was like, yeah, get
me out of this. Got me out of that shit,
menytime much.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I know God is real.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I never talked about this publicly when I got robbed
I was working for a very powerful drug dealer, and
I remember when I got robbed.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I called him like, hey, I'm done, and he was like,
what even kill you? Hoppening? You playing with me?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
I'm like, I feel you, but I'm worth way more
alive to you than I am dead. So you can
hurt me and take it, or you can let me
live and I work my dead off.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
It's your choice.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
He say, I'm gonna let you work it off. This
man will call me six in the morning some one
and I would have to answer. And then that man
got murdered. Thank god. No, no, no, let me be clear.
Let me be clear. I'm not saying it like I'm happy,
I'm being respectful, but I'm saying like, hey, nigga, sometimes

(56:34):
sometimes a new leaf on life is given to you
in the most unique way, and you better see that
ship and you better and by the way, and by
the way, and the only I and the reason why
I wasn't happy that it happened to him, but because
I was working on my debt. But it was still
kind of like, well, shit, there that goes. And you've
ever seen the movie, Oh, what's that? What's that TV show?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
On Netflix? Real popular about the guy that that they
they they wash money.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Oh how the whole first season b Ozark was this
one person terrorizing him and then somebody walks in and
just kills him.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Like, well, nigga just put the whole season? What this motherfucker?
What want to do next season? Now gotta fight? And
that's really how it went.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
But you know, every chance he gets, he shows up,
and every and he says to me in return, you
need to be loud about it. And that's why I'm
gonna be loud as I can to the highest mountain
about my journey because my mother still looks at me like,
how the fuck did you do this? My family is
still kind of like, don't don't mess with it, don't

(57:38):
try to figure it out because we don't know how
he does it and we don't want to fuck it up.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
And it's good to everybody. And I mean, I'm like,
I'm really that nigga at this shit. They just never asked.
It's no magic over here, baby, It's science. I know.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I hope I know the difference between the two. I'm science.
I don't need nobody to teach me. It ain't no tricks.
I know exactly what to do to put it together
and do this. How many niggas you know in the
forties still making hits like we are niggas in the twenties.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
That'd be it. Once a nigga fall off, and it's
twenty Like name a nigga that had name a nigga
that always had a run nigga. Our run has been
continue us twenty fucking years of a run. This nigga
Taran has went like this every fucking year, bro. And
it's because we didn't think it old as anything.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
And instead of feeling like I'm an industry nigga, we
both look I never forget twenty twelve and thirteen. We
looked at each other and said, he said, ray, we
just met doctor Luke. He said, Ray, I'm gonna go work.
I'm gonna go work under Luke and Mike. And this
is by the time we had hits we had we
can't stop already we had hits out, so it wasn't
like we needed that. But Troan was like, that motherfucker

(58:38):
knows something that we don't know. That's why he in
this forties doing it and now toront is in his
forties doing it. We could have easily been on niggas
like let's go to magic and spend the money we made.
I ain't never been that, nigga. I've always been like, Nah,
let's be good to the thing. Let's be good to
the thing that's good to us. Let's learn more about it.
Let's let's figure out how to be better at it.
And that's where we are. And that's why I mean,
I'm telling you look at songwriters. Most songwriters, they well

(58:59):
not some niggas had to hit nigga, talk about the
track record. Nigga, we are still building it at this
very moment. Like you can't like, you can't fuck with
us on that term period. So and that's from because
we learn the science of success. And it's not hard.
It's just not sexy, it's not fun. It's the other side.

(59:19):
But if you learn that shit, bro, you can.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Put me in.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I can make a hit with anybody in his room.
That's just not my interest anymore. I'd rather make a
hit with my fuckingself. That's why you're talking to me
about the God Show. I'm just being honest. That's where
I was at. I'm like, nigga, I know how to
make a hit.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I know.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I'm gonna make the god show a hit, just like
I would make a song a hit. It's all the
same shit. Do something dope, put it out and if
people are gonna tell you it's dope or it's not.
You want to describe success, here's a scress. I describe
it in thirty seconds. Success looks like putting on that
outfit the first day of school to impress your friends.
That's success. Looks like you lay that beautiya. Everybody here know.

(59:54):
You lay that shit on the fucking bed.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
You look at it.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You put the pants at the bottom, put the fucking
shirt at the top. You might put the shoes at
the bottom on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
You're like, oh, I'm a Chilly's niggas tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
School you get in school, nobody says anything about your outfit. Now,
two types of people in the world, Two types of
people in the world. The first one walks out that
room and says, fuck y'all, y'all some hater us anyway,
that's the first person.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
That's ninety nine percent of us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
The second person is like, well, nigga, they didn't know
they was supposed to be impressed by their outfit. Only
you did to fix the fucking outfit nigga or stop
complaining that they didn't see it. That's what life's about today.
You give it your best, you don't get their plause.
You go home tomorrow and you figure out how to
get their plause the next day. Usually the easiest way
to figure out how to get their applause.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Is what did she do to get the applause? What
did she do to get to your pause? That's all
you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Most of the time that the ego and the hating
us is like, man full that Nigga'm better than him. Now,
I'll never forget this. Ya gotta tell important story. Shout
out to dat out of angelady. This is so important.
This changed my fucking life. So I've been on Coach
k for years, right, I mean know, Coach he's older
than me, but I've been noticed. I was when I
was an intern.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And when you come up with a nigga, you see
one of your friends come up, it does a lot
to you. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
It's just like cause it's like you're kind of happy
that they won, but you still like, like Carl Thomas,
but what Bud me? You know, So it's like so
you start looking at it like damn like, why why
I didn't get this? I'll never get I was on
the phone with d Dot and you know this one,
Jeezy was on fire. I've been on JEZ and Coach
since they was because they's the guy that works all
the JZ records. I was interning for this guy named

(01:01:31):
Paris Johnson, so I was intern So I've been on
the niggas for so long.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
And I remember Coach is he was just in this moment, bro.
And you know, beat Out was on the phone with
me and I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Man, I'm better than that nigga, and he said, fun
Flex don't know that fun Flex, this shout you out
on the radio, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
He shout at him out. Nigga, you keep talking about
you better than somebody, if you better than prove that shit.
Getting mad cause niggas don't know you better, nigga. I
don't even know if you better.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Greatest moment in my life now, very important to have
friends like that. And now I'm gonna tell you our story.
Taran calls me twenty twelve, and I couldn't wait to
paanm back what you did to me. I couldn't wait.
So Toront calls me and he's going crazy. Nigga, I'm
the best.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
They don't acknowledge me. I'm better than everybody. Don't acknowledge me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
And and I was like, toront so we mind you
when you managing talent, anybody, talent managers know, you got
to just let them get it out. You don't fight
back with him because the minutes you fight back with him,
they gonna think you don't believe in them. So you
gotta let him get it all the way out. So
he got it all the way out. So he was like, man,
I'm like, so I literally go Toronto.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
You finish? Yeah, Tron, where you at right now? I'm
in the car?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Why turn on the radio? Toronto's like, ray, I'm in
La You in Atlanta. I'm like, I don't care where
I'm att. I didn't say that. Turn on the radio.
He nigga turns on the radio. I'm like, as a
song playing, he tells me, Yes, what's the name of
the song? Future about damn Tom?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Did you write it? What did you write the song?
On the radio? Play right fucking now, my nigga, did
you yes or no? No? When to shut the fuck up?
Because no, no, no, because that proves that you need
the game. The gang don't need you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
There will always be a song on the radio. There
will always be a writer in the room, There always
be a produc in the room. There always be a
nigga the room that's leading the room.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
And Nigga, it will be you if you stop worried
about proving the world you best and go and stop
worry about the world. Acknowledge it it's the best, and
go prove that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Nigga twenty thirteen fourteen, that nigga had a song on
the radio every fucking hour, every thirty minutes, and you
know he did it. But then after he did it,
he was like, ain't enough Because the problem is, this
is the problem with us. If you want to, most
of us measure ourselves to the lowest denominated human being
around us. Like my cousin said, he want to rap.
I'm like, but you're not good. I'm better than Soldier Boy.

(01:03:50):
You reach for him, Nigga, like, you know, like, you
ain't say nas, you ain't say jay Z, you ain't
say nothing. You said Sojio Boy, And I'm like, Sojio
Boy has a superpower too much, Nigga. It might not
be rapping, but he knows how to market himself, he
knows how to make music. He understands that shit. But
the point is, we we we we always go to
the block, to the bottom of the barrel. If you're

(01:04:11):
gonna compare yourself, compare yourself to Beyonce and jay Z.
Compare yourself to the greatest y'all be comparing yourself to
the motherfucker around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
He ain't shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Compare yourself to the motherfucker that as at the top
of the food chain. If you wanna compare yourself to somebody,
And once you start doing that, you realize how much
work you gotta do. Doctor Dre isn't everybody like know
that doctor Dre is. Timblin is my man. I mean
used Timbling is, Timling is incredible. Timberling is my nigga.
But Timmelin knows I ain't called Quincy yet. Yeah, he's

(01:04:41):
still saying, right, I gotta get my thriller, Timblin', I
gotta get my thriller.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Ray I got it, and I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
So for me, it's like you gotta you gotta set
the bar higher for yourself. A lot of y'all got
the bar so low. Y'all just happy walking over that motherfucker.
Now me, the bar said high for me and everybody
around me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Period.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Ray, I'm my asshit man. We get ready to land
this plane soon. But I need to know because and
this is gonna be a moment for me. So I
was gonna dam I'm be selfish for a second here.
You know, we met kind of organically for sure, you
know what I'm saying again, I was just a guy
running butter use out here making hits. You know talent,
you know some of the biggest artists in the world,

(01:05:23):
and you know, just like you just mentioned, you know
how to spot talent. My question is what did you
see in me when you met me? And even the
relationship that we've built where you hit me up and
you say, come to the office, let's shop it up.
You say, Brandon, like I want to talk, like we
have these conversations and this is the first time we
having one publicly, but just for people that don't know, like,
what spark did you see in me that made you say,

(01:05:45):
you know what, this guy has something that I actually
want to lend my time because you can be doing
all kind of other things. What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Honestly, I like you was impressed to meet me, like
this nigga must be somebody. This nigga said this nigga
or arrogant. This nigga looking at me like, oh, that's
cute what you're doing. I'm over here doing my shit too.
I'm like, really, I like that nigga. Okay, nigga, listen,
I want to build with you, like you know. Like
like I said, we don't realize how much we communicate
to the world without communicating. It's crazy how y'all think

(01:06:16):
that no one sees y'all. They saw I'm gonna take
the glasses off, y'all. They see y'all. They just don't
give a fuck the same way you see them. Ain't
you don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
It's the same shit. It'd be weird how y'all be
expecting people to show for y'all, but y'all show for nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
That's arrogance. I deserve support, you don't. That's what you're
telling the world. I deserve it, he don't. Okay, the
world gonna humble your ass really quick, real quick, really quick.
So for me, you know, you was just arrogant. My
nigga was just the nigga was like, what's up? I
mean we can meet or we don't have to, like really, Nigga,
it was like and another thing was that, and this

(01:06:55):
is who's from Atlanta in here? I know you from
a part of landing from again? Okay, cool high school?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah, McNair Middle School, bat Acker High School exactly exactly.
But here's the point.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
It's something about Atlanta that when we run into each
other in high spaces, you can't be from here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
You know, I ain't lying Dutch, you know, like you'd
be like nigg you know, I mean niggas meet me.
I go to LA. I'm in New York and I'm
doing business. They'd be like, where you from? I'm like Atlanta. Nah,
you can't be from Atlanta where you freely from.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I'm like, I left New York when I was eleven,
so you wanner to stand I'm from New York, you're
from Atlanta. I'm like, it's like, it's amazing to see
somebody from Atlanta who from this, who you went to
high school.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
With, doing something big. I went to high school with Ludacris, Nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
We used to laugh at Ludacris walking to the bus
stop because Ludacris. He interned that hot ninety seven when
it was an old nat and a bus stop didn't drop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
It was in an industrial area.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
There was no bus stop near it, so Lula would
take the bus and I remember laughing at them. It
weren't funny when that nigga had Fat Rabbit on the radio,
and you start realizing, Ray, you better stop laughing at
people and go do the work that they were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
So I remember niggas on laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Let me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
I had a friend shouting, my nigga, cheese this nigga
every time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
You see me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Fake ass IRV Gotti, fake as hey him, fake ass
IRV gotty. And by the way, it's one of my
best friends. Hey, can I tell you all it's funny.
He called me big play right now. He don't even
remember he used to say that about me. So that's
my point. I could have felt something. I'm like, I'd
rather be a fake ass IRV gotty. At least that
means I'm on the trail.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Future was probably a fake Roco at one point until
he passed them. Everybody's a fake something until they passed you.
Rick Ross with fake Biggie, he was just a fat
nigga rapping until you pass him. So I received being
a fake anything as long as a fake something, I
want to be the real version of That's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
A confident to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I never took that offended. I know it was offended
by that. It was like, thank you, man, I'm a
fake ass IRV gotty. Now you'll call me that no more.
So you know, I don't get caught up in this shit.
But the point about Atlanta is is that we don't
want I met you and I knew he was from here.
I was like, I wanna fuck with that nigga cause
he's from here, and you know it's different when you're
from it. That means you had to get in your car,
leave your side of town, drive to the city. You

(01:09:10):
know what I'm talk about, And and let me tell
you I just did that. We was just ting about
some big facts. I told Bank. I said, I think
the reason why Atlanta niggas are okay with out of
town niggas coming in here and getting money is because
Atlanta niggas think that it is shit no matter where
they at. Nigga, even if you're a hood of land
nig you gotta grass your grandma left your house, your
grandfather left y'all. It's like, nigga, don't I'm a king here,

(01:09:33):
you know what I'm saying. So in Atlanta you got
niggas that I got niggas that never left College Park
that like my friend literally took his daughter for a
sixteenth birthday Atlantics Mall. He was like this the first
I'm going there. I'm like, nigga, my kids be Atlantic's
moy fucking weekend. Like it's nothing to him. But it's
an Atlanta thing. When you from your side of town,
you kind of stay there. You stay in College Park.
You might go to East Point. Yeah you're from the

(01:09:54):
west side, You're in no west side. We go from
the west side down. Y'all ain't going. Y'all are not
hit twenty five North unless y'all hitting boat and road
trying to get off to go to the city are
not y'all are hitting you know what say. I'm saying,
like you just know it. So when I met you
and I knew you's from here, all I want to
build with him. It's not like New York. It's not
like other cities where they expect greatness from me. In Atlanta,
it's like, man, just don't make us look bad. That's

(01:10:16):
all we ask it. Don't make us look bad. My nigga, like,
just do good. So we're kings here, and I got
niggas here. That's broke kings. I just want to be
a rich one. I'm just being honest.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Rich I be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
You won't enough for me? Oh no, want enough for me?
I wanted more.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Every day I drive past McDonald's, an old national to
go to work, whether I'm being driven in my escalade
or my cyber trucks driving me, it's a surreal moment
every fucking day I used to work there. Now here's
a crazy part, y'all. When you think that, you'd be thinking, like, yeah,
I came far, But the only far really went was mentally.

(01:11:03):
That's the part that nobody acknowledges. Like I didn't go far.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
I went mentally far. I just said, it's more for me,
it's more for me. I'm gonna do more. I'm gonna
go out the more, I'm gonna be more, And that's all.
And I became more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
It's that simple. So for me, like, if I can,
I'm average as fuck. Why can't any of y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Because y'all are just not going to try.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I will.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I'll die on that trick. I'll die on that try
hill every day before I fucking be on it, sitting
on my ass floor.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I'm gonna try on that hill. Nigga, fuck that I'm not.
I'm like Pinky in the brain every day. I'm trying
to take over the fucking world.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Period. No, man, No, it's all look though, it's one
hundred percent all about trying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
I remember growing up. I mean, you know, I am
a proud uh you know, representative of the east Side.
You know what I'm saying, shout out Stone Mount east Side,
Redann High School. I don't care what nobody gott say
about you know what I'm saying. And got some Reann
folks up in here. You don't try it, you know
what I mean? Because we we we deep everywhere we go.
But you know, even growing up back those days, what
I used to do every weekend. Growing up, I remember

(01:11:58):
I had my nineteen eighty seven Volvo. I bought it,
had dinning it that the nothing worth the windows didn't
roll down, the air conditioning to work, and I was
in high school. I would drive downtown every weekend and
I would just drive through downtown. I would look at
all these buildings and I would say, one day, I'm
gona figure out how to get all these buildings.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I would drive right down P Street Street. I would
drive through Buckhead. I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Again, I'm only child too. I didn't have no family
out here besides my parents. You know what I'm saying.
What's amazing is not only the stuff I've been able
to accomplish through butter, but like I'm announced it here,
like we're doing the first ever four or four day
parade next year. All right, so we literally shutting down
P Street Street and we're gonna do a parade. It's
gonna be bigger than Dragon Comic because we're gonna celebrate Atlanta. Right,

(01:12:39):
So just imagine a kid, you know, thirty plus years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Can I get my own own floating a few? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Come on, man, we need we need to guy show Africa, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I'm telling y'all sometime y'all to ask for shit. Don't
you gotta ask You're gonna ask for I'm ass I'm
in front of everybody too, so I who hurt them?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Who heard him?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Say? Okay, I gotta witness west side, my west side
pot and heard him, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
But you gotta you gotta manifest this man. You gotta
see it. You gotta see it before other people see it.
And that's what you gotta try. And I'm telling you
all right now, y'all, trying is exhausting. I promise you,
it is exhausting. I promise you that even with all
the hearts, all the stuff that I do and that
we do, it's still hard to get up some days
and figure this shit out. It's still hard to days
to get out and figure out, Okay, what I'm gonna

(01:13:19):
do next? How do I innovate, you know, especially even
with the stuff that we've been able to do with
butter like want I see people copy I ain't gonna
say who, but I see people out here recreating the
other versions of it. So I have to constantly reinvent
what we do. Love that part of this podcast is
a reinvention of Okay, what's the next thing, and what's
the next thing?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
So again, like it doesn't stop. And that's what you
sign up for when you say you want to play
this game. If you want this shit to be easy,
go get a job.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
And by the way, it's cool and all of you
got everybody in here, I want to say that I'm
gonna take the chair. I can't see it again.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Everybody in here should be proud of themselves. It takes effort,
but just don't let us stop here. That's only I
ask y'all. Don't let us stop here. Tomorrow morning, I'm
gonna get up not eight in the morning. I'm gonna
be at the office at ten, and I'm gonna try
again today like I tried yesterday, and I'm gonna try
it every day. And I'm telling y'all, don't don't give up.

(01:14:12):
Just you guys are special for being here. This is
this is effort, but it doesn't stop here. And listen
to what the world tells y'all. I think a lot
of us. The one thing I think in order to
be successful you can't be is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Delusional. Now, I know people say you should be delusion
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
I don't mean like delusion like we can go to
the top, but I mean just like overestimating yourself and
your position in a room, like don't be delusional, bro like.
Like I think men have it a little bit easier
because men have been rejected by women since we've been trying,
so we just.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Used to it. Right, It's just like shit, it's just
another knowing to mother, I'm gonna give it. Yes, right,
It's just that right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Sometimes you ask so many times she finally say yes,
it's like shit, I'm gonna keep going. But women, on
the other hand, you guys haven't really dealt with rejection
like that. So what Like a man knows what he
can't who he can't get, and who he can get.
He'll see you and be like, I can't afford her yet.
Look at her purse. Oh hell no, I can't afford
her yet, you know. But men are realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
You gotta be realistic about where you're at in your life, right,
how the world treats you. I gave an example.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
No one told me I wasn't ship besides my mother,
but the world told me I wasn't shit. It's like
if the gates of heaven opened and you know you
was in line, and I just knew new face was
gonna be in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I knew he was gonna get in. Like I'm in
line for the gates of heaven. I'm like, oh, new
face up there, all right? Cool? And I see new
faces get kicked out of line. I'm like, man, man,
what the fuck going on? I know I'm funked, I'm
fucked up. No, I'm being honest, like I'm being honest
with you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Then, I'm I'm not gonna stand in line. I'm gonna
try to find my way in behind the gates another way.
I'm just gonna know somebody in there yet.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
That's my point. That's my point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
But all I I just needed to see new face
get rejected to say, oh, I know what's gonna happen
to me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Some of y'all just be acting like which was my turn?
Wait till I get my shot? Okay, nigga, we'll see
how that turned out for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
But I can't go to Bellot, no shade where you
go like you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
You just gotta you just gotta just you gotta just
be realistic, like like like like what what like women
in here?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
It's pretty women in here, like my stands STANDSA is
one of my pro that's my protje, my only protege.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Oh, I'm gonna tell you a story about when I
met I got story about when I met Stanza. She'd
be thinking I forget because she reminds me every time.
But I'm gonna tell you right now the whole story
about when I met Stanza.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
She was she came into office as a as a
law a law degree intern.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
She was, she was bartating that she was working out,
I was getting she was she was finishing up in
law school. And she told me she was like about
to finish up law school, and she finished it up.
But she's been killing it ever since. So congrat and
she's got colds on the show. Let's go let But
but Stanza, I know Stanza's arrogant. I know mama her

(01:16:55):
mama put that arrogance in there. Like, I'm just saying,
what happens if a guy that you feel like is
beneath you try to talk to you, don't you be like,
it's my shirt?

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
The fuck about my outfit that they told you you
can get me, my nigga, Like I need to I
need to refigure out what the fuck you thought you
can get me? No, no real talk, y'all. Y'all think
like that, right, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Cool? Think like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
In business, guys think say it's the same concept. If
they don't want you, something not appealing about you. Yet,
if they ain't trying to stand next to you. If
they see you, my nigga, they just don't want you
in there because you don't fit, or you might intimidate them.
It could be a lot of reasons. The ain't like
it's just bad shit. He could be intimidate them. But
just pay attention to where the world puts you at.

(01:17:37):
When I got when I turned eighteen and my mother
was my mother, my mother.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
When my mother drove me at seventeen to go get
my car, I had to give her gas money to
go buy a car.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I had to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I saved up the money to buy a car, and
I still had to give her fifty dollars gas money
to take me to the auction. Like that's who My
mother was like, you gonna give me some money, nigga.
I don't care what you think this is. You're gonna
give me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
So my mother was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
My mother never drove me anywhere. This motherfucker got up
and drove me to the Army offices and was like,
you go, you on, you're registered right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Now because you're gonna give me a check. Boob boom boom.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
And you know I'm scared of my mom I'm eighteen,
but I'm still like signing up. I think I was
seventeen signing up. When you get out high school going
to the army, fuck that, like all my brothers did.
They gonna make a man out of you. And I
remember I was like, that's the best you think I
could fucking do? No disrespect. The army is where you
send people that need that discipline. That's the best you.
I ain't even try yet, Damn nigga, ain't even try.

(01:18:33):
You already sending me off. I had to cut my
mom off for a little bit. You don't believe in me.
It's not it's no disrespect, I knowing when I get on,
I'm i'n come back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
And take care of you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
But I can't have you in my vicinity, mother, as
much as I love you, because I don't need the
person that I came out of telling me I ain't
shit every time I try to step up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
So I had to stay away from it, right, And
it's cool now we're closer to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I left my family for like two years and was
living off women, just you know, living out of a suitcase,
like cause I just was like, I'm gonna make it
some way. Somehow, I've done a lot of fucked up
shit to get here, Like I hounder shit, I'm not prouduct,
but I did what I had to do as a man,
because that's what a man does.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
You do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
And when I realized that they were sending me to
the fucking army, I was like, ma, I think I
got another way to make some money and I don't
have and I don't have to go out and get
yelled at every fucking day to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
And now I'm in the music business. Now She'd be like,
keep doing that music.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Shit, keep doing that music.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
She said, I don't know what you're doing, but don't
fuck it up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Please.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
I don't want to go back to work.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
I'm like, man, I got no money put away when
you never have to work again, and neither do I.
I'm just I'm just trying to make myself happy now.
I'm really right now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
This chapter is for me. And if I made you
millions of dollars, are you mad?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Because I finally making a chapter for me and I
made you millions, you ain't my nigga anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
So this chapter, this is for me, This is me
doing something for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Me and what am I telling the world if I'm
willing to man, do you understand I'm driven to New
York for fucking straight, eleven and a half hours straight
to give somebody a demo to drive back to Atlanta.
I did that for another nigga. What the fuck you
think I'm gonna do for myself? Nigga'm gonna show up
for me, Baby, I'm gonna sh I'm not gonna it
might as well get used. I'm not going nowhere. I'm

(01:20:02):
gonna show up for me. You like it, don't let
me make some real money in this ship. I'm gonna
be the puff of this ship. I'm telling not the puff.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
On that note, We're gonna go ahead and wrap this
thing up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I'm gonna be a len this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
You gotta feel another name now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
I don't be then of this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
I'm crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Yeah, we go. We're gonna go and wrap this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
But Ray, before we wrap this thing up, There's one
thing I love to ask every guest that comes on
butter Nomics, and that is if there was a Ray
Daniels billboard somewhere around Atlanta, what would be on that
billboard there was a Ray Daniels billboard somewhere around Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
What would be on that billboard?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
It would be Ray Dane's Presents. Uh, I'm, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
My goal is to be the hip hop version of
what Tyler Perry is. He puts Tyler Perry Presents on everything,
and we watched that ship. So for me, if I
can build a relationship with an audience where I can
I put Ray Danie's Presents on it and you like Nah,
Ray Ray a different.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Level of quality. By the way, that's my executive do
a porm ring.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
And I saw how much respect he got for what
the fuck we do with that mint fucking burgundy coat on?

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Nigga look like like a straight pimp over there. He
ain't a pimp. Guys, you want to get on the
should I say you need to talk to Jack Dance?
But I'm got all I was saying. But but I
know what was the question? You said, billboard?

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
If there was a Ray Daniels billboard somewhere around it,
something message would you put on that bill easy?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Ray Daniels Presents just wants to make Atlanta proud. If
you from Atlanta, you're gonna check that ship out because
youre going to matter. Who the fuck you think you
ought to make us proud? Nigga, we are ready proud.
Then you find out one of y'all, then y'all locked in.
So that's why we would say Ray daniels presents goal
is to make Atlanta proud.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Well, ray Man, Yo, bro again, I'm so glad we
had a chance had this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
We've been talking about it forever.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
By the way, thank you for everybody that's showing up. Uh,
I'm gonna be vulnerable with you guys for a moment.
Moments like these are moments that tell me that what
I'm doing is right because I'm here and people showed
up to hear what I had to say. I want
you all to know I never would take that for granted.

(01:22:15):
And I didn't invite none in my family because I'm like,
if it was only three people there, my mother be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
The first first walk up, like, why, oh fuck you?

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
This shit?

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Ain't nobody here. So I didn't write nobody. I'm like,
I won't hear your mouth. I just I'd rather take
a picture and say it was nice, you know. But
but I want to every last person here. I want
to thank y'all, like I mean sincerely because the gang
turned this back on me and they just didn't know.
And every time the game turned his back on me,
I swear to guy, y'all, I said the same thing.

(01:22:43):
I'm going back to Atlanta. I'm just going back home,
like because you know what I know for a fact,
all I need to make is about three hundred thousand
and this motherfucker to live like a king. Meanwhile, you
niggas in atlant making three hundred and four hundred thousand
and living in apartments. Yeah, nigga, I go back to Atlanta.
I'll go back to Atlanta figure it out. That's what
I'm gonna do. Nigga and Atlanta, Nigga, let me tell
you something. In Atlanta, my friends have offices and buildings

(01:23:06):
and places, and La Niggas is renting rooms. The New
York niggas is renting rooms. I want Atlanta to know
that we are a shit. We just got to support
each other and stop looking for outside motherfuckers to come
in and change some shit. We just shared ourselves and
it's no country city in the world like this with
this many black people that's in charge. We're supposed to

(01:23:27):
be supporting each other's businesses, everything, because it's time for
us to get into our generation generational wealth journey.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
We didn't Our parents didn't have that. I always say,
give your parents grace.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
They didn't come up in a world where generational wealth
was possible for black people. That didn't even come into
the nineties. When we start seeing niggas making hundreds of
millions of dollars, hold up, we can do that. And
then maybe and by the way, maybe niggas was making
hundred millions of dollars, but they wasn't hip hop, and
nobody brags on what they making like hip hop. So
when you so it was it was hundreds hundreds of
millions of dollars was when they was making the nineties.

(01:23:58):
So my point of I'm saying is that it's our
time to build generational wealth. And if you're not getting
up your ass every day trying to do something for yourself,
I don't feel bad for you, because it's the gold
rush right now. We the motherfuckers that has anybody seen Wicked?
Wicked is one of the greatest movies I've ever seen
in my life. You know what I think Wicked was,
you've seen it. You know I think Wicked was I

(01:24:19):
think it was Hollywood's way of telling us Black people.
We know y'all are chosen ones, but we need y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
That's what wicked was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Go watch the movie Black Women, Please go watch it.
It was literally their way of telling us like it's
a part in the movie where he says without you,
I have no power. What am I supposed to do
without you? And it's like it was hot to me.
It was a Hollywood way of saying, y'all are the chosen,
but we need y'all. And to me, I just want
us to act like the chosen. That's all I would say,
because we are the ones.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Man. Great, thank you man, this has been the amazing conversation.
Congratulations on all success y'all. Please continue to support Ray
the God Show. Please support butter Nomics butter Atl. Make
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(01:25:10):
to the podcast, share the podcast, leave comments, leave ratings.
That stuff means the world to what we're trying to
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that are doing the amazing work out here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
And next time y'all hear something like this, bring a friend.
Like what we don't do enough of, we don't invite
our people with us, is something I'm sorry, I just
got to say this. I was talking to somebody and this.
They said something that was so profound to me. They
said that every black person that has made it to
the big table was led to believe you're only at

(01:25:43):
the table because you're not like them, which then makes
us hate ourselves because it's like, I gotta behave like
these guys because I don't want them to see me
like them. And what I'm telling you is is that
the only reason why it feels like that is because
we're going to their table. Stop going to their table
and start sitting out our us. I stress that like

(01:26:03):
support each other, sit out at our tables. Stop asking
those motherfuckers to see you, because when you ask motherfucker
to see you, they you're giving them power. A girl
with a big assets never walked through a room and
said everyone, look, niggas, be like, come on, you don't
have to ask somebody to look at you of you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
The ship, just be the ship yo.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
And on that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Thank y'all so much for coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
We out.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
You've been listening to button Nomics and I'm your host,
Brandon Butler. Got comments, feedback? Want to be on the show.
Send us an email today at hello at butternomics dot com.
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Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
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Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
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