April 14, 2025 • 50 mins
Jess & Camilla are recapping an episode that was truly a perfect storm during season 9 and it's all about Arizona and Callie!
They're talking about a foreshadowing experience involving an engagement ring and Jess's impeccable chemistry with Hilarie Burton all while still being sad they didn't get many scenes together in this one!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to another episode of Call It What It Is, everycwh
rewatch episode.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's our second one, it is, and I, you know,
progress not perfection. I you know, I kind of had
never done a rewatch before, and I got a little granular.
I went into the weeds on the last one, and
I feel that I want to do what we did,
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but just better bring it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, listen, the funny thing is is that Jessica and I,
if you give us an episode, we can we can
make about twenty podcast appisodes out of a single episode.
We know all the ins and outs, know all the
behind the scenes stories. And we asked our feedback from
the crew because we're listening to you guys, and you
guys loved it that. You're like, hey, this, you know,
tighten it up a little cool, tighter. So we're going
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to try and get a little little tight a little facelift.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Titan it up. Okay, So what episode are we rewatching?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Okay, So once again we asked you guys, which one
you wanted us to talk about, and I knew by
the way it's there are like five episodes I just
know are always going to come up. This one was
the season finale of season nine, episode twenty four, Perfect Storm.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Ah, so many feelings. So I was very excited to
rewatch this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Do you remember much of it? Because there's a lot
of storyline that I did not remember.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes, I did actually remember all of it. You did, Yeah,
I did, But that being said, there's quite a few
year between shooting this episode in today and rewatching it.
I sat down on the couch, I turned it on
the big screen, and I was just reminded of my
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fan feelings for the show me too, and I almost,
dare I say, felt that. When it was over, I
was like, well, that's a perfect episode.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
One hundreds and I agree with you. I started watching.
Here's what my plan was. I was thinking to myself, Oh, no,
I'm going to rewatch it, but I know so much
of this storyline that like, I'm going to bring my
I didn't want in my bedroom. I brought my makeup
on my bed and was like, I'll do my makeup
while I'm watching it, and so I can sort of like,
you know, get something done while I'm rewatching the episode.
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I didn't do one stitch of makeup. I was so
locked in and didn't touch it. I was like, oh,
I could not remember what happened next. I remembered a
few things, but there were so many parts that I
was like, this is a everyone's so good.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah no, no, But I watched it as though I
wasn't on it. But that being said, it was so
long ago that when I looked at myself, I was like, well,
that's not me.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, let's talk about that, because sometimes I say to you,
I feel like I'm twenty eight. I'm twenty eight in
that episode, and I'm like, I don't I remember even
looking like that, and I'm definitely not twenty eight. Like
I am so like I look like a baby.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, yeah, we do look like babies. I have recently
mentioned that my daughter Eve has caught up to me
being in the show. So I will walk into the
room and see myself and be like, okay, there I am. Yes,
we're babies. Normally I talk about how beautiful you look,
and I think about me, but I actually got to
say I was a little glowing. I mean those here
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and a very side part Sally and very ponytail punnytail parade.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
This episode was a two parter, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
The finale cliffhanger, Joe Wilson has a bruise, and I
remember joking with Norman, who was one of the makeup
ours on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We were doing episode twenty four and we kept forgetting
exactly where the bruises and cuts were, and so we
joked about how they were just sometimes.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Move around a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, it was a little darker and then it was
a little more to the left.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, So okay, So I put so I sit down
on the couch, I put it on the big screen,
I put my feet up, I got a dog on
the couch next to me, and I'm like, let's go.
I took some notes because I wanted to make sure
that I hit all the things that I really felt
while watching it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Let's get it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I had forgotten the chemistry that Owen and Christina had,
And then how we start off this episode with like this,
well the beginning of the end of their relationship, which
is you were Christina saying to oh, I like you
want a kid and him being like no, I don't,
and her being like, yeah, you do, and I'm not
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going to be the one that you look at in
ten fifteen years and resent because we didn't have kids,
and she's so wise her character. So for me, it
started off like that, and I was reminded that I do.
I did ship them back then, and there was a
lot of story around them, so I was very into them.
But then we went straight into something I'd kind of forgotten,
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which was Meredith being pregnant.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, okay, before we get into that, can we just
talk about how the show opened on that slow mo
run of Derek and Sam in the dark. I literally
looked up, like who directed this, who did the lighting?
Herb who we love? I was like, oh God, what
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a great way to open, because then it goes like
five hours earlier or something like that, and I was like, damn. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So that's the other thing I love about this episode
is and why I think it. I mean, nothing is perfect,
but it feels it's like a perfect episode, is that
it truly did use every one of its characters. Yes,
in an almost equal parts way. Everyone had an important
part in what was happening, and a lot was packed
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into those whatever forty eight minutes. But the foreshadowing of
Callie and the oh you just pin your wedding ring
right here to your school. I know when she stuck
in April.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
This episode. I distinctly remember this table read because of
the ending, which we'll get to, but I just has
to do with the ring. But I just remember being blocked.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Everybody was like yeah, so I remember also my character
being basically guilty from the start. But truly, yes, aren't
Laurence here. I'm feeling these feelings what to do a
thing with.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Hillary Burton because you had a lot of fantastic national
chemistry together and was there any part of you when
you were filming these two episodes where you were like, wait, maybe,
as crazy as it sounds, it could go in this
direction with this with Lauren, with that character.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Short answer is no, Because the Cali Arizona relationship was
so cemented and so like it was, it felt very
much when we were doing it that it was always endgame.
We were always finding our way back to each other,
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which I think allowed for the playfulness and the fun
that came from having another person come into the world.
And I think the reason that we had if people,
by the way, I don't actually hear people say we
have chemistry often because they're so pissed about it. I mean,
this is such a polarizing episode because really people so
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upset with Arizona. Hilary Burdon number one is an awesome human.
So she comes on set, she's so much fun and
so game and kind of like, yeah, she almost feels
like she she just feels like the best She feels
like your best friend within like four minutes of meeting her.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, I think that that translates on screen too, and
she's so.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Into Arizona, which, by the way, who wouldn't be excited
about someone that was that into you?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yes, I have a question for you, because you guys
were a beloved couple. You get the episode that says
that you're going to cheat. Was there a part of
you that was like, oh God, no, like scared because
you know that that storyline is going to erupt in
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the fandom. You're usually the good guy as.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Arizona, and I was always the good girl. Yeah, so
this is I was not afraid of it. I was
very much leaning into it it because we've talked about
this before. You know, Grace creates these couples, but then
you can't just I mean, like we love when they
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come together and there's the crescendo of music and there's
the happily ever after vibes and everything else. But you
can't that's kind of you can't stay happy forever. It's
a little boring. So you have to have something come
in and disrupt it so that you can get back
to that.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But it's hard when you weren't the bad guy. It's
really hard.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I know, Yeah, no, I know. I definitely remember it
because I remember being on Twitter. I don't even think
Instagram was live yet, and I think that I I
think I definitely didn't look at it for that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I remember what you said to me, what I say,
you turned to me. I will always remember this because
I've thought about this in other circumstances where I've had
to be like, you know, sort of the bad guy.
You turned to me. You said, I'm gonna have to
get off social media. Yeah, it's literally what you said
walking out of the table read and I remember being, oh,
that's a good lesson to learn. I had not had
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my like you know, bad guy are quiet on the show,
and I was like, back pocket that that's what that's happened.
Had this you sort of had stand it while the
storyline rolls on.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So so she already get the Arizona
guilty vibe because she's got this chemistry with Lauren, and
then now the nick you is overwhelmed. Also, let's just
give a shout out to the power of lightning and thunder.
I mean, the storm created such a real energy and
you're really you've got you're really on high alert, so
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your senses are heightened and you are ready for story.
So now we've got Meredith having her baby and the
power goes out. Yeah, and she's got Lisa. Kay Hamilton
was guest starring as the Obe who was on the
practice with me, who I adore. She's she's like face
presentation and Christina and Derek are there, which I thought
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was also a really cool dynamic because you know, they're
the Yin and the Yang, but they're both her people,
and so you're kind of like, okay, and her voice
over in the beginning was a little ominous, and there's
thunder and lightning, and you're like, of course something's gonna
go wrong, but face presentation doesn't sound terrible, so you're
like okay. So Christina and Derek are helping, but then
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Weber needs to grab Christina for a different surgery. Right,
so now we're back in the nick you and we're
like me and you. So this is like how many
times have we worked together a couple?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So let me talk about the behind the scenes of this,
because everybody knows about burger Gate, and there's only a
couple scenes that I distinctly remember filming from that episode,
and the scene where you're like, hey, keep smiling and
we're like remember that, yep. I remember us finding it
funny that we were having to like do these fake
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smiles and thinking to myself, I think Jessica Capshaw and
I are getting along and because of Burgergate we had
you know, that was still the first season, right, I
don't remember what episode that happened. For me, it was
like the beginning of like I really like her, Like
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this is kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I love you. I love you in these scenes. I
think you're so great and I don't want to skip ahead.
But during your sort of hero moment when you also
see kareb see you be this hero, I was like
the fuck, Yeah, she's my hero too. I loved our
scenes together. You remember filming up with me yeah, I do.
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And I also it felt a lot like the energy
that I had when I was giving the the speech
to the new intern class, where I'm like, you know,
they are like, you know, tiny humans are different and
there's flower dusts or there's fairy dust in our all
that stuff. So I remember that. I forgot that that
was a thing that Arizona did, which was like she
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just was like, we're going to keep swimming. We're gonna
put a smile on our face. Is in the face
of death and destruction, and we're gonna keep going. And
I love that about her, by the way, and I
share that with her. So anyway, so that the batteries
are out and she comes in and is like I
need everybody's help. By the way, Karrev trying to fake smile.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. It is fucking funny. It is
so funny. It's a toothing like, yes, I remember shooting
it was most funny when we are shooting it. I
do remember.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Here's something that I don't know if anyone knows, but
I truly, with a ferocity that is oversized, disliked wearing
those pinking gowns.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
They're called the peeps because you look like a giant marshmallow.
But you, of all people, there's no one that hated
the peap more than you. I know what was it
about it?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I felt bold?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I was also always pregnant, so I couldn't figure out
whether or I should tie it on top of my
belly or on the bottom. Maybe the way I did it,
I just felt very not in my body. Yes, yes,
and I just I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
No, it's your thing, It's always your thing. Yeah, Jessica
Kapsha hates the peep.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh, I know why? Else? They were hot when you
put them on, you were very warm, and we had
all the lights on us and it was a hot Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Sometimes when I think the stages, people don't know this.
The stages on Grey's Anatomy where we shoot are literally
bigelow zero.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's coming.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's a it is so freezing ages that the peep
I was happy about keeps you warm.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's true. Okay, So the batteries are out, we have
the whole thing. Then Weber has pulled Christina into this,
and I love her grumpy grumpy grumpiness, but she's in
there and he's like, we got to operate in the dark,
which was creating so much anxiety for me. I was like,
what do you mean we're operating in the dark. Yes,
and and she's and she's looking at him and she's like,
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what are you talking about. We're not operating the dark.
And he's like, yes, remember when we had those people
and we were teaching him how to operate in their
fields and the series. And she's like, I'm not serious,
I know, unapologetically, like that's not who I am. So
what's why are you bringing this up? So then Derek
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is in the in the we cut back to that
and Derek is there and he's talking to merediths O
BI and he's basically like, don't up.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I like that moment because now that Joe Wilson is Obi,
I'm like, you know what, take a seat.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Okay, do a lap, do a lap?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, ob Shepherd yep.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But then all of a sudden, we cut back to
all the thunder and lightning and we're back in the
er entrance and such cool visual effects because all of
a sudden, you hear something and there's a bus and
it's crashing. Yes, all of our heroes start running towards
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a burning, fiery bus. What I mean, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is why I always kind of hope that Joe
get into trauma, because unless you're in that, you don't
get They get so many hero runs.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You continue to be jealous of April and her trauma.
I do trauma rotation. Her trauma is her trauma discipline.
Yeah no, but it was also when I when I
I took a note, and this is my note. This
whole episode is one big high stakes sandwich. It's eyeball
punch after eyeball punch.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It's true. So it's so good. You know what's so funny, though,
is when you're reading this scripture, like that storyline is incredible,
and you're like, I kind of wish I was like
part of that storyline, and then the reality of the
hours of filming that storyline being out in the dark
because they probably filmed that like two in the morning
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and the rain, you're like, you know what, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't need to be a part
of that. So now Arizona and Kareb are in the
supply closet and she's realizing that she needs to find
batteries and she's sham spiraling because it's obviously her responsibility,
but she's also shamed Spira ling about the fact that
she's just cheated on her wife, and she just comes clean,
which I have to say she always did with Karev.
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I know, always Karrev.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
There was it.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean, like she had great relationships with others, but
it was really Korev.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Tell me your thoughts about that conversation, because I had
thoughts about the conversation.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I was thinking about the way that was written.
I think that I played it like it was like
a stream of consciousness, like I needed to go to church,
like I had to. I had to get it out,
I had to come clean, which, by the way, interestingly enough,
Stacy McKee wrote the episode, and she would have likely
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done this for a reason is that Karev was the
one that made the call about the leg and she
never really knows that. She blames CALLI, and so she
holds him still in this spot of like he's my
he's one of my people, or even like my person
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outside of Cali. So so she she always comes to
him with these admissions, and she comes to him with
this admission.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I on this scene really funny because you're life, I
just cheated on my wife. I'm a horrible person. And
he's like, I'm in love with that intern out there,
and I don't want to tell her because everyone I
end up with ends up all fucked up. And so
I'm I'm I'm the bad guy in this, in this
between the two of us, and I was literally like,
she cheated on her wife. No, to me, it didn't
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track to me. It was like this funny moment where
I was like, no, Arizona is a little lit orders run.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I know, well, you know what, I appreciate it, so
let's move on. And ultimately he says to me, you're
not the worst person in this closet, So what are
we gonna do? And I'm like, I have no idea.
So now we go back to and I really do
have to say. I mean, there's not a storyline in
this show that I don't love. But Weber and Christina
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and she's mad, She's like, why are you making me
do this? This is awful and I'm gonna hurt this
person and I'm gonna kill this person and I can't
do this and you can't make me do this. And
Weber gets to be like it's like in Karate Kid
somehow he convinces grumpy Christina to listen, to listen and says, okay, fine,
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I can't see it, but you can hear it. And
the audience is like, what what do you mean? I
could hear it? And she's such a good actress and
you see her, you see her face and you see
her make the discovery and then all of a sudden,
the leak is ventricular and light's back on the music.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I know, you know what?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
What's great about that is because Christina, we know, is
like absolutely incredible at everything.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
She's a badass all of it.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
And so I love it when they find these storylines
on the show that test her and test her ability.
How do you test Christina Yang, That's a way to test.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Christina Yan Yep, absolutely okay. So now I remember it
being back to us and then it was the batteries
are low and Arizona's freaking out. But again, I think
she was always such a good girl. She's such a
girl scout. She's like, it's all my fault. And this
is where I love that. Lauren was like, yeah, coming
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in with the the it's gonna be okay. And I
don't know that I don't know that anyone in Arizona's
life was, you know, more positive than her. She came
in and was like, it's okay, and you know what,
we can bag them and we can manually bag them
and it's going to be okay.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yes, I do remember bagging. Do you remember bagging?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yes? Hand cramping is what I would call it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You guys, your hand's hurt so and you're like, we're
gonna bag them until we need to bag them. I'm
thinking I'm bag in that scene for maybe five minutes total,
maybe maybe fifteen, and I was ready to come off,
like how old are these doctors gonna be bagatting for hours?
They would have done it their superstars. I'm not a superstar,
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but I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, all right, So Lauren makes everyone feel good and
she's got that smile and that velvety voice, and she's like,
we can bag all night. It's okay. And Arizona softens
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for the first time because you see her like kind
of being like what did I do? I know?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And that as a viewer, I was watching it and
I was like, this could be more than a fling.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, that moment.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
That moment seemed to two of you.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I was like, yeah, yeah, because they changed each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Okay, So now as a view where I'm going, oh
my gosh, now we're back with Meredith because the baby's
like everyone's left her. They're like, you're fine, why would
you you had your baby? So Derek's with the baby
because she says, don't leave that baby. So he's like,
I got the baby. And then the ob he's got
other jobs to do. And then Shane. I forgot how
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much I love Shane. I love Shane anyways. Okay, so
Shane is like Shannon Brooks are like who gets to close?
And Shane stands up for himself. I loved working with him,
by the way, I loved him anyways. So he's like,
I got this and she and he wins, and so
he's standing there and by the way, every time in
Graze Anatomy, when you win something, you lose something. Yeah,
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so he gets the win and he gets to close
her up, and then all the fucking sudden, she's like
bleeding out, really coming from places. What the hell? I
didn't see that kind.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I thought I forgot that whole storyline. I was so
obsessed with the writers, I'm like, what, you guys are
so amazing the fact that they have Meredith Gray diagnosing herself.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Oh my god. In the moment, I'm in riveted and
he's just trying to do his best, and he's kind
of like, I got no one to call because the
whole hospital is under duress, so I don't even know
who to call. And then Meredith start telling him what
to do. So she he's in her insides and she's
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telling him what to do because she tells him to
check her IV and there's blood coming out of it,
and then that's how she knows, Oh, it's not just
my C section pleading from my baby I fell, which
is new information for him. And now she's got to
have some kind of internal bleeding and now he's got
to find it in the dark, and you're like, what, Yeah,
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how's this gonna happen? Like no pressure for him because
he won the lottery of being able to close her.
So now she starts telling him what to do and
she's like, you got to open me back up, and
he's like what, And then she's laying there giving him
the instructions, and you add the next high stake sandwich
another layer of d filling, and she's like and a
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tremendous acting happening. By the way, that's why I.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Would say that, I thought, oh, so oh in that moment,
he is so she's so good, She's so good.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, she's so good. So she's laying there and she's
like telling him all the things he has to do.
And then she throws in there and by the way,
you cannot let me die, yeah, because I'm about to
pass out, and i'm and when I pass up, Yes,
it was like a little much that. Then she's like,
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and the baby's name is and then they put the guests.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Please.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I was so annoyed because I was waiting for the
baby's name, like I know the name name.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, And you know how many times they shot that?
You know how many times you shot that? Like that
mask coming over her annoying? Oh, really so good, I
found an annoying. Okay, now we are back to the
flaming bus crash in the rain that's also fiery and
like some kind of inferno.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Let's talk about this because I think we can. I
think we can like kind of summarize that this scene
basically is there so that Jackson Avery and Kevin mckinn
ken can come out looking like the most amazing hero.
But what's funny is that I started laughing because the
way my memory was not right. I I remembered which
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is wrong. The Jackson Avery ended up exiting this bus
after this huge explosion, which is what happens holding a child.
But I remember him being in my mind that we
had written him shirtless. So I was giggling, like to myself,
thinking how does the shirt come off? Does the explosion
like blow the shirt off? It's like, we have the
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other opportunity to get somebody's shirtless and heroic. We're going
to do it. And then so when he came out
in his scrub talk, I was like, oh, where like
get the shirtless thing from?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And then I realized, yeah, don't worry, it's coming, coming coming.
I mean when they go back to the bus, Yes,
you are correct. They are both being so heroic and
the lighting is great and the rain and all of
it's happening, and they are being so heroic. Then we
sort of get sling shot back into the Nike you
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because the parents are revolting. I was a little resentful
of this, although obviously, I mean it's funny because the
ladies always get to be heroes on our show. It's
it's very true. So maybe that's why I noticed that
I was a little irritated that Derek got to save
the day. Like everyone's revolting and like, and Derek gets
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to be like, shut up, everybody. There aren't enough doctors,
but there are enough people. I'm like, wait, how did
I not think of that? Why didn't I say that?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I also thought to myself, I did think to myself,
why are we saying that it's going to be fine
when clearly we're out numbered by babies.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But but that's the point that Derek makes. Yes, the
doctors are but the people aren't. And all we're doing
is bagging. Yeah, it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And then Joe then follows off with a hey it's
easy and gets a little love look from Corrupt because
you know what she knows how to bag a baby.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But you're magical in this scene.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh you're so cute.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, you are you are? You are? You are? You
have you have the Gray's magic. You're like your character
and the words and the tone and all of it
comes together. Do you just do it? And you also
and you see why he loves you, and you also
have that weird, you know, floating eyebruis situation, so we're
sympathetic to you.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I do remember a filming it and being knowing that
this was a graznown to me finale. These were huge
and this was my first one and feeling, oh my.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
God, like pressure is on.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, pressure felt like it was on, which worked. It
always works when you're an internal on the show though, Yeah,
pressure is on.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Get out. Yeah, of course I had the goosebumps so
many times during the show. Okay, so now we haven't
talked enough about Bailey, but Bailey's having this whole I
can't get back into medicine. I can't get back into surgery,
and everyone's trying to coax her back into it, and
everyone's a little bit on tender hooks and they don't
know how to do it. And she keeps saying no
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to whatever proposition people have. But all of a sudden,
she's like in this emergent situation, she cannot get the
meds out of this med tower and she is over it.
And she gets called in because Brooks comes in and says,
(29:44):
Gray needs you, and she's like, I'm done. I was great,
and she flips out love it and she's with Leah.
Yeah there was another person that Arizona had sex with.
But anyways, she flips out, goes a bunannas like literally
(30:06):
like hitting the tower, going crazy all the things. But
then all of a sudden, all the trays open. Yeah,
like yay, because we've got all these patients coming in
that need meds and she and no one.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Can get them.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So Bailey for the wind, yeah, and I love her
for that. I love her. Okay. So now I'm reminded
of the other aspect of the show, which is like
the action situation. And now Jesse aka Jackson Avery.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Comes out, not shirtless, under not chartless.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
He has shirtfull. Uh and he somehow you know, they've
they've they've planted that there's a woman that's looking for
her child Ebie. Of course I'm now pulled in because
I have a child named Maybe, so I'm like, uh,
And he's magnetically drawn towards this child. He looks under
the bus and there's a little girl he's hees her
(31:08):
shoe and then explosion, so that happens, but then it
goes back to the inside and they're like they're freaking
out because they think it's gonna explode. Yeah, and then
April starts running towards the bus because she's like, well,
but where's Jackson. Everyone's like, where's Jackson? And Jackson's not there.
So they know that Jackson's not there. They established that
(31:30):
we know where he is, but we don't know what
the timing is. And then all of a sudden, April
starts running towards the bus and it explodes and she
thinks Jackson is in the bus and she's going.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, o razy. No, I'm just gonna say, if I'm Matthew,
her fiance, I'm stood right there, which he kind of is.
And then you're watching April Kepner lose her shit quite
like that. Well it's here's a Lara Bells. You know
what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody else is.
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Owen's not out there screaming Jackson's.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Name, like April Callie's not out there screaming Jackson's name.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Would raise an eyebrow, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
explosion happens, and then what happens This is the part
that I is just when he comes walks out.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So then this is the part that you probably imagine
him being shirtless, but he was not. And then her
mom is falling apart. She's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Here's here's what made me laugh at this. Not only
was he not shirtless. I was wondering where I got that,
but he just literally walks right by April and Matthew
and like not even eye contact. It's like just breezes
by them. And it just made me giggle for some reason,
because I.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Like, you, hold on, let me see my note. Jackson
comes out with eve notes how did he not get
a Marvel movie deal? After that, April is crying too
hard shirtless Jackson. April goes cuckoo. Matthew sees it.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Those are my notes.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
April goes cuckoo. I mean like and I mean, we
know our girl is good, so she's cuckoo level five thousand.
Matthew sees it. Then Derek and Christina get the get
wind of the fact that like, the baby's in the
neck you, but where's Meredith?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
And then Bailey's back and she's gonna go save Gray,
but like, where is she saving Gray? And then that's
the callback to them running down because Christina comes to
get Derek and she's like what and they don't even talk.
She just gives them a look. And then they're running
down the hallway and it gives me such goosebumps. So
they're running down the hallway. I actually laughed at the
fact that they're running down the hallway. But then it
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somehow cuts them just sitting there.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I'm like, wait, why'd you run so fast if you down?
So they're sitting there and they're talking about her, and
that's when they say, you know, she's our person. Then
there's this flip the transfer switch situation where they Weber
goes down and he finds Frank on the floor and
Frank's like, don't worry, you just have to flip the
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transfer switch. And so we think that everything's going to
go back to what it should be. And meanwhile, Bailey
really is back and she's saved Gray and and are
you know, it's like Gray is gonna live. It's gonna
be great. And Weber stays down in the basement help Frank,
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and then we find for the first time in the show,
Arizona and Cali in the same room. Oh my god,
I gave me like when she comes around the corner.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I'm like, oh, I was like no, no, oh god,
oh my god.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
And by the way, this is exactly I was in
the day where I was like.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Oh, yeah, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Okay, yeah, what happens? Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So Lauren is into Arizona, and Arizona, I think, is
kind of into Lauren, but she feels so guilty and
she's like this can't happen, Like this can't be and
you're great, but like then all of a sudden, her
wife comes up behind her. Yeah. I was like, oh
my gosh, there you are. And she's like, yeah, Harry,
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here I am.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And then call back to the beginning of the episode
where Callie tells April to put her ring on her Scriptop. Yeah,
she looks at Lauren and Lauren is wearing Arizona's wedding ring.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Hell, how did the writers? What an absolutely genius way
of dropping that bomb. That is the part of the
table read that I literally like, almost through my script.
I was like dying because we were reading it as
it was like the first time. It was our version
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of watching it for the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
That was That's the part that I remember, and I
wasn't even it wasn't even my storyline. I remember the
most about that.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Phenomen Yeah, yes, of course, yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So then Lauren sort of lies seamlessly, but Calli knows
immediately and Arizona knows.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
I know that look between you guys, I know it's
really want to see the book that it's really aboud,
which is why they then they, being the powers that
be that control things, switch over to.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You and Crow, and it's a amazing, amazing, amazing admission
of like both of you being like I mess everything
up and I, oh, don't tell me. You're gonna tell me,
don't tell me? So what was that?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Do you remember that scene?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I do? I remember it so well. I do remember
it so well. I remember initially in the first script,
we were supposed to the walkway, we call it the walkway.
Originally the kiss was supposed to be there. It was
written to be in the walkway, and for whatever reason,
maybe we couldn't get to the location or timing or
whatever it was, it got changed to just us standing
(37:33):
looking out at the rain. And I remember thinking, like, oh,
being so bummed because it was going to be this
amazing kiss on the walkway and it's so iconic and
wondering how romantic it was going to be that we
were just at the end of this hallway, and also
being so nervous because when you read a script and
it's like the first kiss, it literally says something along
(37:54):
the lines of the most incredible, mind blowing roam, like
that's read right, so the speaks are so high. Yeah,
I just remember being so nervous that a whole season,
because it was twenty four hours, is a whole season
of this tease of them getting together that in some way,
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like this moment of passion just wouldn't read. And I
was watching it, I'm like, this works, like these two characters,
like I am rooting for them. I'm rooting for them
to be together. It didn't matter that it wasn't on
this iconic walkway. I thought it was great and romantic
in the rain, and it was just such a cute
Joe and Alex's moment and their dialogue together like fit
perfectly for who those characters are. It was so simple
(38:40):
in a way. But yeah, I do remember, I remember
the pressure of making that kiss. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
It was though I thought it was at thinks I'll
take it was a smooch my notes were smooth.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
You know, Oh, talk about this because as they're kissing,
John Legends song all of It, Yes Star.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Which yes, which I was, I mean note of it
because I was like, oh my gosh, number one, how
old is this song? And number two we got that song.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
So the interesting thing about that song is the show
licensed that song John Lennon Legends demo of All of
Me for the episode and allowed them to use a
song before the single was even released. And then I
remember that song just exploding everywhere. But it became synonymous
with art this season finale, and it led from Joe
(39:39):
and Alex that kiss, and then it led into April Jackson.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
This is making me feel like we need to do
an episode about the music of Grey's Anatomy, which's very
important and you and I both love music so much,
so I think we actually should and maybe we need
to have some of the standout musical guests. Song. I mean,
I would love to have Brandy Carlyle on.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
We have the Frey on.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I mean that be lovely. Okay, I'm down. We haven't
thought about this angle we're doing it, okay, So yes,
that that starts that that song starts to play and
then you go over to April and Jackson, and April
comes in with all her crazy I love her, I
love her crazy, and.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
She's shirtless and he's shirtless, and he's shirtless, and he's
she's from That's where I was getting from. He could
he could. We could have put him in a hospital gown.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
But by the way he's being treated by.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
CALLI, he's being treated by Kelly.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But he could have been before. I'm confused.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I don't know. But the point is we could have
put him in a hospital gown.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But the why would we do that.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Let's not like, let's have April come in and Jackson.
Let's make sure that Jesse Williams is moisturized. He's ready
just to really confess that love.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
So she comes in and she's like I don't want
you yeah, and he's kind of like wait what yeah,
And he's like you're getting married, yeah, And she's like
a lot of other stuff. But ultimately she's like, unless
you give me a reason not to which hello, hello,
ring ring, the phone is ringing, pick it up. You
(41:15):
love her, she loves you, But we would not do
that because then we cannot have.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
We're going to leave that for another big exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So now, okay, we get to button up the Christina
and Owen piece because Christina comes in with her wisdom
and the thrill of having been challenged by Weber to
hear a leak and then fix it because of that
in the dark, and she is hopped up on the power. Yeah,
and she says to Owen, do you really believe that
(41:49):
I'm ever going to be enough? Like I can't fill
the hole, I can't fill the kid shaped hole in
a lot in your life. And she kind of says,
you already made your decision. I know it's done.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
It's done done, so.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And we have we still have John Legend playing all
of me. So through all so of these I mean again,
there's so many coming togethers and pulling up parts in
this episode. So now we go to a very big
pulling apart, which is and it really is, I mean,
kind of the end Arizona and Calli.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, the big scene at the end where they're they're
there and they're just so full of it and they're
so mad and oh my gosh. Calli is so good
in the scene and she is wrecked and she's coming
at it like full full, just like how could this
have happened? And and and Arizona is like, why do
you keep trying to take credit for my pain?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
My favorite part is when you just like, it's very
rare that I ever heard just I don't even know
if I've heard Jessica Capshaw yell except for Burgergate, and
the yelled is like so goutt and raw. When you're
like you are on the plant, you know, it's like
I just I felt like you just completely let loose
in it. It's excellent because it's like all these things
(43:11):
that have been building you haven't been said really gets said.
I know, not even necessarily that you cheated.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
No, but I think what what in rewatching it?
Speaker 3 (43:21):
At?
Speaker 1 (43:21):
What I saw was I saw how mad Arizona was.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yes, we have seen that.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, she was so mad, she was so so, so
so mad. And and I did see that that CALLI
was in her, in her all of her best intentions
to fix and fix and fix and fix. She was
kind of taking on this horrible thing that had happened
(43:52):
to Arizona. And Arizona was like, it didn't happen to you,
You were not that this experience, which again By the way,
I think probably the next you watch will be the
plane crash episode, because that's the one that everyone also
wants to hear about. But it's like, you weren't there,
you weren't in the woods, you weren't thinking you were
(44:14):
never going to be saved, and amongst people who were dying,
Like you don't know what you're.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Talking about, but I have. I have some questions, and
I feel like fans will want to know about this
because we sort of we know what the arguments about.
Sometimes you're as an actress saying you're in a fight
as your character and you're not on your character's side.
So I want to know if when you were playing that,
were you on Arizona's side? Was Jessica on arizona side.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I understood why she was so frustrated. I personally would
never have let it get to the point where she cheated.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, no, not the cheating. More than that. It's more
thank you, so much more than just that. She's just
wondering if when you were sometimes you're saying lines and
you're like, those.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Were no, I no, I I do I think that
there was all this, you know. I just think that
that CALLI was cheerleading and cheerleading and cheerleading, and I
think that Arizona was giving multiple, multiple, multiple accounts of
I'm struggling, Yeah, I'm heartbroken, i am stuck. Yeah, because
(45:25):
by the way, the one thing that I did was
not on her side about was and I think that
I'm not alone. It's like it feels like a thin
argument to say I'm so mad at you for taking
my leg but also saving my life, like would you
rather be dead? I mean like because because the whole
thing about her leg was that she was gonna die.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, I remember it being so out of the ordinary
for us and so supercharged that one person I don't
know who it was. And it wasn't like, you know,
a cacophony. It wasn't like this amazing like we were
at Radio City Music Hall. But there was we finished
it and there was a clap and there and then
there was clapping, and it was cathartic. It was it
(46:10):
was it was the end of the season, and it
was Yeah, Arizona had so much just stop it already,
like just all the stuff and.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
It was such a long time coming.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yes, and it was just like she finally was like
ah and and and so was Cally, and so I
remember there being like a very cathartic release of like,
you know, that was it felt good and I and
I remember thinking that we did we did the best
you know we made. We did the thing, we did
(46:43):
the thing we made.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
When you My last question for you about that scene,
it's when you went into it. Did you know did
you plan on being Arizona being that explosive in the
scene or did you find your way there while filming?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I think I think we found on our way there
because I think that I always tried to make Arizona
be like temper her and like find the bright side
of the street. And I think that we found our
way to you know what, sometimes you can't sweeten.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
You know. I think that's a really interesting thing that
you just said that we've never talked about. And as
an actor, I think that no one is more of
a cheerleader and loves your character more than you do,
right because you have to or playing that person. And
so a lot of times in these scenes where you
kind of have to be the bad guy or you're
just you know, you're exploding in the way that you
(47:35):
have to explode. You're almost the temptation to make the
person more likable in the moment or less explosive or
exactly what you said temper them is. It's just very
tempting to do that, right. And then there are times
(47:56):
when you realize that that's the person is who they
are in this moment and it's not what you would do,
and that's okay. And then you have to lean all
the way in and it feels it can be difficult,
like I understand why you would feel like, find your
way there to that.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Mm hmm. This is gonna be the cliffhanger. So Bailey
is like, oh my gosh, I'm back in action. Somehow
it happened. I'm not afraid of being a doctor anymore.
I've gotten out my stuff and I gotta go find
Richard because he is the one who knows me the
best and I owe everything to him, and I'm gonna
find him. And remember after Richard saved Frank down below,
(48:39):
he said, you just have to flip the switch or
whatever transfer switch and there's like water on the ground,
a little looks little electricity. Yeah, and then you don't
see him flip the switch. But then in the voiceover,
she says that only in the quiet moments after the storm,
(48:59):
we learn who was strong enough to survive, and Richard
is on the floor in the on the wet floor
next to the sparking circuit with his lab coat burned,
and like, you think for sure he's done.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
It's a great show.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Come on, that's like, by the way, that's only we're talking, like,
I don't know, forty five minutes of TV.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
What no wonder we're on the air for this long?
Come on, round of applause?
Speaker 1 (49:29):
I know he can I say it's being controversial, Yeah, sure.
It made me feel nostalgic. I wish that all those
people were still on the show. I don't think it's controversial, Like,
but I was like, I mean, I think all the
people on the show right now are so amazing and
so great, And we were just talking about intern classes
and I think it's absolutely right to shake it up
and all that. But there is something I mean, I
(49:51):
guess it's because you can't get it back. It's just immortalized.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Also, you end up having a soft spot for the
time that you came on the show. Yeah, there's there's
an energy to when you first come on the show
and what that what the landscape looked like at.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
The time, you know, but all the interns like I
really did. I was like again when I saw Shane,
I was like, God, I love that guy.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
I know, I loved our enduring class.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Well, thanks for coming on this ride with us.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
I and thank you for suggesting call it through this
episode because I was sucked in. It was a time
well spent.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I loved it. I love a deep dive with you.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
You too, I do really fun and it is.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Really fun to see us from five hundred years ago.
What we look like.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
I know. Well, let's call it the end of the episode.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome
to another episode of Call It What It Is, everycwh
rewatch episode.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's our second one, it is, and I, you know,
progress not perfection. I you know, I kind of had
never done a rewatch before, and I got a little granular.
I went into the weeds on the last one, and
I feel that I want to do what we did,
(00:50):
but just better bring it.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, listen, the funny thing is is that Jessica and I,
if you give us an episode, we can we can
make about twenty podcast appisodes out of a single episode.
We know all the ins and outs, know all the
behind the scenes stories. And we asked our feedback from
the crew because we're listening to you guys, and you
guys loved it that. You're like, hey, this, you know,
tighten it up a little cool, tighter. So we're going
(01:14):
to try and get a little little tight a little facelift.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Titan it up. Okay, So what episode are we rewatching?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Okay, So once again we asked you guys, which one
you wanted us to talk about, and I knew by
the way it's there are like five episodes I just
know are always going to come up. This one was
the season finale of season nine, episode twenty four, Perfect Storm.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Ah, so many feelings. So I was very excited to
rewatch this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Do you remember much of it? Because there's a lot
of storyline that I did not remember.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes, I did actually remember all of it. You did, Yeah,
I did, But that being said, there's quite a few
year between shooting this episode in today and rewatching it.
I sat down on the couch, I turned it on
the big screen, and I was just reminded of my
(02:16):
fan feelings for the show me too, and I almost,
dare I say, felt that. When it was over, I
was like, well, that's a perfect episode.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
One hundreds and I agree with you. I started watching.
Here's what my plan was. I was thinking to myself, Oh, no,
I'm going to rewatch it, but I know so much
of this storyline that like, I'm going to bring my
I didn't want in my bedroom. I brought my makeup
on my bed and was like, I'll do my makeup
while I'm watching it, and so I can sort of like,
you know, get something done while I'm rewatching the episode.
(02:47):
I didn't do one stitch of makeup. I was so
locked in and didn't touch it. I was like, oh,
I could not remember what happened next. I remembered a
few things, but there were so many parts that I
was like, this is a everyone's so good.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah no, no, But I watched it as though I
wasn't on it. But that being said, it was so
long ago that when I looked at myself, I was like, well,
that's not me.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, let's talk about that, because sometimes I say to you,
I feel like I'm twenty eight. I'm twenty eight in
that episode, and I'm like, I don't I remember even
looking like that, and I'm definitely not twenty eight. Like
I am so like I look like a baby.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, yeah, we do look like babies. I have recently
mentioned that my daughter Eve has caught up to me
being in the show. So I will walk into the
room and see myself and be like, okay, there I am. Yes,
we're babies. Normally I talk about how beautiful you look,
and I think about me, but I actually got to
say I was a little glowing. I mean those here
(03:51):
and a very side part Sally and very ponytail punnytail parade.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
This episode was a two parter, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
The finale cliffhanger, Joe Wilson has a bruise, and I
remember joking with Norman, who was one of the makeup
ours on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We were doing episode twenty four and we kept forgetting
exactly where the bruises and cuts were, and so we
joked about how they were just sometimes.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Move around a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, it was a little darker and then it was
a little more to the left.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, So okay, So I put so I sit down
on the couch, I put it on the big screen,
I put my feet up, I got a dog on
the couch next to me, and I'm like, let's go.
I took some notes because I wanted to make sure
that I hit all the things that I really felt
while watching it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Let's get it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I had forgotten the chemistry that Owen and Christina had,
And then how we start off this episode with like this,
well the beginning of the end of their relationship, which
is you were Christina saying to oh, I like you
want a kid and him being like no, I don't,
and her being like, yeah, you do, and I'm not
(05:01):
going to be the one that you look at in
ten fifteen years and resent because we didn't have kids,
and she's so wise her character. So for me, it
started off like that, and I was reminded that I do.
I did ship them back then, and there was a
lot of story around them, so I was very into them.
But then we went straight into something I'd kind of forgotten,
(05:25):
which was Meredith being pregnant.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, okay, before we get into that, can we just
talk about how the show opened on that slow mo
run of Derek and Sam in the dark. I literally
looked up, like who directed this, who did the lighting?
Herb who we love? I was like, oh God, what
(05:47):
a great way to open, because then it goes like
five hours earlier or something like that, and I was like, damn. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So that's the other thing I love about this episode
is and why I think it. I mean, nothing is perfect,
but it feels it's like a perfect episode, is that
it truly did use every one of its characters. Yes,
in an almost equal parts way. Everyone had an important
part in what was happening, and a lot was packed
(06:17):
into those whatever forty eight minutes. But the foreshadowing of
Callie and the oh you just pin your wedding ring
right here to your school. I know when she stuck
in April.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
This episode. I distinctly remember this table read because of
the ending, which we'll get to, but I just has
to do with the ring. But I just remember being blocked.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Everybody was like yeah, so I remember also my character
being basically guilty from the start. But truly, yes, aren't
Laurence here. I'm feeling these feelings what to do a
thing with.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Hillary Burton because you had a lot of fantastic national
chemistry together and was there any part of you when
you were filming these two episodes where you were like, wait, maybe,
as crazy as it sounds, it could go in this
direction with this with Lauren, with that character.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Short answer is no, Because the Cali Arizona relationship was
so cemented and so like it was, it felt very
much when we were doing it that it was always endgame.
We were always finding our way back to each other,
(07:37):
which I think allowed for the playfulness and the fun
that came from having another person come into the world.
And I think the reason that we had if people,
by the way, I don't actually hear people say we
have chemistry often because they're so pissed about it. I mean,
this is such a polarizing episode because really people so
(08:00):
upset with Arizona. Hilary Burdon number one is an awesome human.
So she comes on set, she's so much fun and
so game and kind of like, yeah, she almost feels
like she she just feels like the best She feels
like your best friend within like four minutes of meeting her.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, I think that that translates on screen too, and
she's so.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Into Arizona, which, by the way, who wouldn't be excited
about someone that was that into you?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yes, I have a question for you, because you guys
were a beloved couple. You get the episode that says
that you're going to cheat. Was there a part of
you that was like, oh God, no, like scared because
you know that that storyline is going to erupt in
(08:47):
the fandom. You're usually the good guy as.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Arizona, and I was always the good girl. Yeah, so
this is I was not afraid of it. I was
very much leaning into it it because we've talked about
this before. You know, Grace creates these couples, but then
you can't just I mean, like we love when they
(09:10):
come together and there's the crescendo of music and there's
the happily ever after vibes and everything else. But you
can't that's kind of you can't stay happy forever. It's
a little boring. So you have to have something come
in and disrupt it so that you can get back
to that.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But it's hard when you weren't the bad guy. It's
really hard.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I know, Yeah, no, I know. I definitely remember it
because I remember being on Twitter. I don't even think
Instagram was live yet, and I think that I I
think I definitely didn't look at it for that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I remember what you said to me, what I say,
you turned to me. I will always remember this because
I've thought about this in other circumstances where I've had
to be like, you know, sort of the bad guy.
You turned to me. You said, I'm gonna have to
get off social media. Yeah, it's literally what you said
walking out of the table read and I remember being, oh,
that's a good lesson to learn. I had not had
(09:58):
my like you know, bad guy are quiet on the show,
and I was like, back pocket that that's what that's happened.
Had this you sort of had stand it while the
storyline rolls on.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So so she already get the Arizona
guilty vibe because she's got this chemistry with Lauren, and
then now the nick you is overwhelmed. Also, let's just
give a shout out to the power of lightning and thunder.
I mean, the storm created such a real energy and
you're really you've got you're really on high alert, so
(10:32):
your senses are heightened and you are ready for story.
So now we've got Meredith having her baby and the
power goes out. Yeah, and she's got Lisa. Kay Hamilton
was guest starring as the Obe who was on the
practice with me, who I adore. She's she's like face
presentation and Christina and Derek are there, which I thought
(10:53):
was also a really cool dynamic because you know, they're
the Yin and the Yang, but they're both her people,
and so you're kind of like, okay, and her voice
over in the beginning was a little ominous, and there's
thunder and lightning, and you're like, of course something's gonna
go wrong, but face presentation doesn't sound terrible, so you're
like okay. So Christina and Derek are helping, but then
(11:16):
Weber needs to grab Christina for a different surgery. Right,
so now we're back in the nick you and we're
like me and you. So this is like how many
times have we worked together a couple?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So let me talk about the behind the scenes of this,
because everybody knows about burger Gate, and there's only a
couple scenes that I distinctly remember filming from that episode,
and the scene where you're like, hey, keep smiling and
we're like remember that, yep. I remember us finding it
funny that we were having to like do these fake
(11:51):
smiles and thinking to myself, I think Jessica Capshaw and
I are getting along and because of Burgergate we had
you know, that was still the first season, right, I
don't remember what episode that happened. For me, it was
like the beginning of like I really like her, Like
(12:11):
this is kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I love you. I love you in these scenes. I
think you're so great and I don't want to skip ahead.
But during your sort of hero moment when you also
see kareb see you be this hero, I was like
the fuck, Yeah, she's my hero too. I loved our
scenes together. You remember filming up with me yeah, I do.
(12:33):
And I also it felt a lot like the energy
that I had when I was giving the the speech
to the new intern class, where I'm like, you know,
they are like, you know, tiny humans are different and
there's flower dusts or there's fairy dust in our all
that stuff. So I remember that. I forgot that that
was a thing that Arizona did, which was like she
(12:55):
just was like, we're going to keep swimming. We're gonna
put a smile on our face. Is in the face
of death and destruction, and we're gonna keep going. And
I love that about her, by the way, and I
share that with her. So anyway, so that the batteries
are out and she comes in and is like I
need everybody's help. By the way, Karrev trying to fake smile.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. It is fucking funny. It is
so funny. It's a toothing like, yes, I remember shooting
it was most funny when we are shooting it. I
do remember.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Here's something that I don't know if anyone knows, but
I truly, with a ferocity that is oversized, disliked wearing
those pinking gowns.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
They're called the peeps because you look like a giant marshmallow.
But you, of all people, there's no one that hated
the peap more than you. I know what was it
about it?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I felt bold?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I was also always pregnant, so I couldn't figure out
whether or I should tie it on top of my
belly or on the bottom. Maybe the way I did it,
I just felt very not in my body. Yes, yes,
and I just I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
No, it's your thing, It's always your thing. Yeah, Jessica
Kapsha hates the peep.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh, I know why? Else? They were hot when you
put them on, you were very warm, and we had
all the lights on us and it was a hot Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Sometimes when I think the stages, people don't know this.
The stages on Grey's Anatomy where we shoot are literally
bigelow zero.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's coming.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's a it is so freezing ages that the peep
I was happy about keeps you warm.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's true. Okay, So the batteries are out, we have
the whole thing. Then Weber has pulled Christina into this,
and I love her grumpy grumpy grumpiness, but she's in
there and he's like, we got to operate in the dark,
which was creating so much anxiety for me. I was like,
what do you mean we're operating in the dark. Yes,
and and she's and she's looking at him and she's like,
(15:31):
what are you talking about. We're not operating the dark.
And he's like, yes, remember when we had those people
and we were teaching him how to operate in their
fields and the series. And she's like, I'm not serious,
I know, unapologetically, like that's not who I am. So
what's why are you bringing this up? So then Derek
(15:52):
is in the in the we cut back to that
and Derek is there and he's talking to merediths O
BI and he's basically like, don't up.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I like that moment because now that Joe Wilson is Obi,
I'm like, you know what, take a seat.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Okay, do a lap, do a lap?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, ob Shepherd yep.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But then all of a sudden, we cut back to
all the thunder and lightning and we're back in the
er entrance and such cool visual effects because all of
a sudden, you hear something and there's a bus and
it's crashing. Yes, all of our heroes start running towards
(16:37):
a burning, fiery bus. What I mean, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is why I always kind of hope that Joe
get into trauma, because unless you're in that, you don't
get They get so many hero runs.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You continue to be jealous of April and her trauma.
I do trauma rotation. Her trauma is her trauma discipline.
Yeah no, but it was also when I when I
I took a note, and this is my note. This
whole episode is one big high stakes sandwich. It's eyeball
punch after eyeball punch.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It's true. So it's so good. You know what's so funny, though,
is when you're reading this scripture, like that storyline is incredible,
and you're like, I kind of wish I was like
part of that storyline, and then the reality of the
hours of filming that storyline being out in the dark
because they probably filmed that like two in the morning
(17:31):
and the rain, you're like, you know what, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't need to be a part
of that. So now Arizona and Kareb are in the
supply closet and she's realizing that she needs to find
batteries and she's sham spiraling because it's obviously her responsibility,
but she's also shamed Spira ling about the fact that
she's just cheated on her wife, and she just comes clean,
which I have to say she always did with Karev.
(17:56):
I know, always Karrev.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
There was it.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean, like she had great relationships with others, but
it was really Korev.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Tell me your thoughts about that conversation, because I had
thoughts about the conversation.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I was thinking about the way that was written.
I think that I played it like it was like
a stream of consciousness, like I needed to go to church,
like I had to. I had to get it out,
I had to come clean, which, by the way, interestingly enough,
Stacy McKee wrote the episode, and she would have likely
(18:30):
done this for a reason is that Karev was the
one that made the call about the leg and she
never really knows that. She blames CALLI, and so she
holds him still in this spot of like he's my
he's one of my people, or even like my person
(18:51):
outside of Cali. So so she she always comes to
him with these admissions, and she comes to him with
this admission.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I on this scene really funny because you're life, I
just cheated on my wife. I'm a horrible person. And
he's like, I'm in love with that intern out there,
and I don't want to tell her because everyone I
end up with ends up all fucked up. And so
I'm I'm I'm the bad guy in this, in this
between the two of us, and I was literally like,
she cheated on her wife. No, to me, it didn't
(19:24):
track to me. It was like this funny moment where
I was like, no, Arizona is a little lit orders run.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I know, well, you know what, I appreciate it, so
let's move on. And ultimately he says to me, you're
not the worst person in this closet, So what are
we gonna do? And I'm like, I have no idea.
So now we go back to and I really do
have to say. I mean, there's not a storyline in
this show that I don't love. But Weber and Christina
(19:51):
and she's mad, She's like, why are you making me
do this? This is awful and I'm gonna hurt this
person and I'm gonna kill this person and I can't
do this and you can't make me do this. And
Weber gets to be like it's like in Karate Kid
somehow he convinces grumpy Christina to listen, to listen and says, okay, fine,
(20:13):
I can't see it, but you can hear it. And
the audience is like, what what do you mean? I
could hear it? And she's such a good actress and
you see her, you see her face and you see
her make the discovery and then all of a sudden,
the leak is ventricular and light's back on the music.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I know, you know what?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
What's great about that is because Christina, we know, is
like absolutely incredible at everything.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
She's a badass all of it.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
And so I love it when they find these storylines
on the show that test her and test her ability.
How do you test Christina Yang, That's a way to test.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Christina Yan Yep, absolutely okay. So now I remember it
being back to us and then it was the batteries
are low and Arizona's freaking out. But again, I think
she was always such a good girl. She's such a
girl scout. She's like, it's all my fault. And this
is where I love that. Lauren was like, yeah, coming
(21:15):
in with the the it's gonna be okay. And I
don't know that I don't know that anyone in Arizona's
life was, you know, more positive than her. She came
in and was like, it's okay, and you know what,
we can bag them and we can manually bag them
and it's going to be okay.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yes, I do remember bagging. Do you remember bagging?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yes? Hand cramping is what I would call it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You guys, your hand's hurt so and you're like, we're
gonna bag them until we need to bag them. I'm
thinking I'm bag in that scene for maybe five minutes total,
maybe maybe fifteen, and I was ready to come off,
like how old are these doctors gonna be bagatting for hours?
They would have done it their superstars. I'm not a superstar,
(21:58):
but I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, all right, So Lauren makes everyone feel good and
she's got that smile and that velvety voice, and she's like,
we can bag all night. It's okay. And Arizona softens
(22:22):
for the first time because you see her like kind
of being like what did I do? I know?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And that as a viewer, I was watching it and
I was like, this could be more than a fling.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, that moment.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
That moment seemed to two of you.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I was like, yeah, yeah, because they changed each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I did. I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Okay, So now as a view where I'm going, oh
my gosh, now we're back with Meredith because the baby's
like everyone's left her. They're like, you're fine, why would
you you had your baby? So Derek's with the baby
because she says, don't leave that baby. So he's like,
I got the baby. And then the ob he's got
other jobs to do. And then Shane. I forgot how
(23:03):
much I love Shane. I love Shane anyways. Okay, so
Shane is like Shannon Brooks are like who gets to close?
And Shane stands up for himself. I loved working with him,
by the way, I loved him anyways. So he's like,
I got this and she and he wins, and so
he's standing there and by the way, every time in
Graze Anatomy, when you win something, you lose something. Yeah,
(23:26):
so he gets the win and he gets to close
her up, and then all the fucking sudden, she's like
bleeding out, really coming from places. What the hell? I
didn't see that kind.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I thought I forgot that whole storyline. I was so
obsessed with the writers, I'm like, what, you guys are
so amazing the fact that they have Meredith Gray diagnosing herself.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Oh my god. In the moment, I'm in riveted and
he's just trying to do his best, and he's kind
of like, I got no one to call because the
whole hospital is under duress, so I don't even know
who to call. And then Meredith start telling him what
to do. So she he's in her insides and she's
(24:16):
telling him what to do because she tells him to
check her IV and there's blood coming out of it,
and then that's how she knows, Oh, it's not just
my C section pleading from my baby I fell, which
is new information for him. And now she's got to
have some kind of internal bleeding and now he's got
to find it in the dark, and you're like, what, Yeah,
(24:38):
how's this gonna happen? Like no pressure for him because
he won the lottery of being able to close her.
So now she starts telling him what to do and
she's like, you got to open me back up, and
he's like what, And then she's laying there giving him
the instructions, and you add the next high stake sandwich
another layer of d filling, and she's like and a
(25:03):
tremendous acting happening. By the way, that's why I.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Would say that, I thought, oh, so oh in that moment,
he is so she's so good, She's so good.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
No, she's so good. So she's laying there and she's
like telling him all the things he has to do.
And then she throws in there and by the way,
you cannot let me die, yeah, because I'm about to
pass out, and i'm and when I pass up, Yes,
it was like a little much that. Then she's like,
(25:37):
and the baby's name is and then they put the guests.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Please.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I was so annoyed because I was waiting for the
baby's name, like I know the name name.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, And you know how many times they shot that?
You know how many times you shot that? Like that
mask coming over her annoying? Oh, really so good, I
found an annoying. Okay, now we are back to the
flaming bus crash in the rain that's also fiery and
like some kind of inferno.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Let's talk about this because I think we can. I
think we can like kind of summarize that this scene
basically is there so that Jackson Avery and Kevin mckinn
ken can come out looking like the most amazing hero.
But what's funny is that I started laughing because the
way my memory was not right. I I remembered which
(26:31):
is wrong. The Jackson Avery ended up exiting this bus
after this huge explosion, which is what happens holding a child.
But I remember him being in my mind that we
had written him shirtless. So I was giggling, like to myself,
thinking how does the shirt come off? Does the explosion
like blow the shirt off? It's like, we have the
(26:51):
other opportunity to get somebody's shirtless and heroic. We're going
to do it. And then so when he came out
in his scrub talk, I was like, oh, where like
get the shirtless thing from?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And then I realized, yeah, don't worry, it's coming, coming coming.
I mean when they go back to the bus, Yes,
you are correct. They are both being so heroic and
the lighting is great and the rain and all of
it's happening, and they are being so heroic. Then we
sort of get sling shot back into the Nike you
(27:21):
because the parents are revolting. I was a little resentful
of this, although obviously, I mean it's funny because the
ladies always get to be heroes on our show. It's
it's very true. So maybe that's why I noticed that
I was a little irritated that Derek got to save
the day. Like everyone's revolting and like, and Derek gets
(27:43):
to be like, shut up, everybody. There aren't enough doctors,
but there are enough people. I'm like, wait, how did
I not think of that? Why didn't I say that?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I also thought to myself, I did think to myself,
why are we saying that it's going to be fine
when clearly we're out numbered by babies.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But but that's the point that Derek makes. Yes, the
doctors are but the people aren't. And all we're doing
is bagging. Yeah, it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And then Joe then follows off with a hey it's
easy and gets a little love look from Corrupt because
you know what she knows how to bag a baby.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But you're magical in this scene.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh you're so cute.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, you are you are? You are? You are? You
have you have the Gray's magic. You're like your character
and the words and the tone and all of it
comes together. Do you just do it? And you also
and you see why he loves you, and you also
have that weird, you know, floating eyebruis situation, so we're
sympathetic to you.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I do remember a filming it and being knowing that
this was a graznown to me finale. These were huge
and this was my first one and feeling, oh my.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
God, like pressure is on.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, pressure felt like it was on, which worked. It
always works when you're an internal on the show though, Yeah,
pressure is on.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Get out. Yeah, of course I had the goosebumps so
many times during the show. Okay, so now we haven't
talked enough about Bailey, but Bailey's having this whole I
can't get back into medicine. I can't get back into surgery,
and everyone's trying to coax her back into it, and
everyone's a little bit on tender hooks and they don't
know how to do it. And she keeps saying no
(29:21):
to whatever proposition people have. But all of a sudden,
she's like in this emergent situation, she cannot get the
meds out of this med tower and she is over it.
And she gets called in because Brooks comes in and says,
(29:44):
Gray needs you, and she's like, I'm done. I was great,
and she flips out love it and she's with Leah.
Yeah there was another person that Arizona had sex with.
But anyways, she flips out, goes a bunannas like literally
(30:06):
like hitting the tower, going crazy all the things. But
then all of a sudden, all the trays open. Yeah,
like yay, because we've got all these patients coming in
that need meds and she and no one.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Can get them.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So Bailey for the wind, yeah, and I love her
for that. I love her. Okay. So now I'm reminded
of the other aspect of the show, which is like
the action situation. And now Jesse aka Jackson Avery.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Comes out, not shirtless, under not chartless.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
He has shirtfull. Uh and he somehow you know, they've
they've they've planted that there's a woman that's looking for
her child Ebie. Of course I'm now pulled in because
I have a child named Maybe, so I'm like, uh,
And he's magnetically drawn towards this child. He looks under
the bus and there's a little girl he's hees her
(31:08):
shoe and then explosion, so that happens, but then it
goes back to the inside and they're like they're freaking
out because they think it's gonna explode. Yeah, and then
April starts running towards the bus because she's like, well,
but where's Jackson. Everyone's like, where's Jackson? And Jackson's not there.
So they know that Jackson's not there. They established that
(31:30):
we know where he is, but we don't know what
the timing is. And then all of a sudden, April
starts running towards the bus and it explodes and she
thinks Jackson is in the bus and she's going.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, o razy. No, I'm just gonna say, if I'm Matthew,
her fiance, I'm stood right there, which he kind of is.
And then you're watching April Kepner lose her shit quite
like that. Well it's here's a Lara Bells. You know
what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody else is.
(32:06):
Owen's not out there screaming Jackson's.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Name, like April Callie's not out there screaming Jackson's name.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Would raise an eyebrow, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
explosion happens, and then what happens This is the part
that I is just when he comes walks out.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So then this is the part that you probably imagine
him being shirtless, but he was not. And then her
mom is falling apart. She's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Here's here's what made me laugh at this. Not only
was he not shirtless. I was wondering where I got that,
but he just literally walks right by April and Matthew
and like not even eye contact. It's like just breezes
by them. And it just made me giggle for some reason,
because I.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Like, you, hold on, let me see my note. Jackson
comes out with eve notes how did he not get
a Marvel movie deal? After that, April is crying too
hard shirtless Jackson. April goes cuckoo. Matthew sees it.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Those are my notes.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
April goes cuckoo. I mean like and I mean, we
know our girl is good, so she's cuckoo level five thousand.
Matthew sees it. Then Derek and Christina get the get
wind of the fact that like, the baby's in the
neck you, but where's Meredith?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
And then Bailey's back and she's gonna go save Gray,
but like, where is she saving Gray? And then that's
the callback to them running down because Christina comes to
get Derek and she's like what and they don't even talk.
She just gives them a look. And then they're running
down the hallway and it gives me such goosebumps. So
they're running down the hallway. I actually laughed at the
fact that they're running down the hallway. But then it
(34:08):
somehow cuts them just sitting there.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I'm like, wait, why'd you run so fast if you down?
So they're sitting there and they're talking about her, and
that's when they say, you know, she's our person. Then
there's this flip the transfer switch situation where they Weber
goes down and he finds Frank on the floor and
Frank's like, don't worry, you just have to flip the
(34:33):
transfer switch. And so we think that everything's going to
go back to what it should be. And meanwhile, Bailey
really is back and she's saved Gray and and are
you know, it's like Gray is gonna live. It's gonna
be great. And Weber stays down in the basement help Frank,
(34:54):
and then we find for the first time in the show,
Arizona and Cali in the same room. Oh my god,
I gave me like when she comes around the corner.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I'm like, oh, I was like no, no, oh god,
oh my god.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
And by the way, this is exactly I was in
the day where I was like.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Oh, yeah, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Okay, yeah, what happens? Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
So Lauren is into Arizona, and Arizona, I think, is
kind of into Lauren, but she feels so guilty and
she's like this can't happen, Like this can't be and
you're great, but like then all of a sudden, her
wife comes up behind her. Yeah. I was like, oh
my gosh, there you are. And she's like, yeah, Harry,
(35:41):
here I am.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And then call back to the beginning of the episode
where Callie tells April to put her ring on her Scriptop. Yeah,
she looks at Lauren and Lauren is wearing Arizona's wedding ring.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Hell, how did the writers? What an absolutely genius way
of dropping that bomb. That is the part of the
table read that I literally like, almost through my script.
I was like dying because we were reading it as
it was like the first time. It was our version
(36:21):
of watching it for the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
That was That's the part that I remember, and I
wasn't even it wasn't even my storyline. I remember the
most about that.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Phenomen Yeah, yes, of course, yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
So then Lauren sort of lies seamlessly, but Calli knows
immediately and Arizona knows.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
I know that look between you guys, I know it's
really want to see the book that it's really aboud,
which is why they then they, being the powers that
be that control things, switch over to.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You and Crow, and it's a amazing, amazing, amazing admission
of like both of you being like I mess everything
up and I, oh, don't tell me. You're gonna tell me,
don't tell me? So what was that?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Do you remember that scene?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I do? I remember it so well. I do remember
it so well. I remember initially in the first script,
we were supposed to the walkway, we call it the walkway.
Originally the kiss was supposed to be there. It was
written to be in the walkway, and for whatever reason,
maybe we couldn't get to the location or timing or
whatever it was, it got changed to just us standing
(37:33):
looking out at the rain. And I remember thinking, like, oh,
being so bummed because it was going to be this
amazing kiss on the walkway and it's so iconic and
wondering how romantic it was going to be that we
were just at the end of this hallway, and also
being so nervous because when you read a script and
it's like the first kiss, it literally says something along
(37:54):
the lines of the most incredible, mind blowing roam, like
that's read right, so the speaks are so high. Yeah,
I just remember being so nervous that a whole season,
because it was twenty four hours, is a whole season
of this tease of them getting together that in some way,
(38:17):
like this moment of passion just wouldn't read. And I
was watching it, I'm like, this works, like these two characters,
like I am rooting for them. I'm rooting for them
to be together. It didn't matter that it wasn't on
this iconic walkway. I thought it was great and romantic
in the rain, and it was just such a cute
Joe and Alex's moment and their dialogue together like fit
perfectly for who those characters are. It was so simple
(38:40):
in a way. But yeah, I do remember, I remember
the pressure of making that kiss. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
It was though I thought it was at thinks I'll
take it was a smooch my notes were smooth.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
You know, Oh, talk about this because as they're kissing,
John Legends song all of It, Yes Star.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Which yes, which I was, I mean note of it
because I was like, oh my gosh, number one, how
old is this song? And number two we got that song.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
So the interesting thing about that song is the show
licensed that song John Lennon Legends demo of All of
Me for the episode and allowed them to use a
song before the single was even released. And then I
remember that song just exploding everywhere. But it became synonymous
with art this season finale, and it led from Joe
(39:39):
and Alex that kiss, and then it led into April Jackson.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
This is making me feel like we need to do
an episode about the music of Grey's Anatomy, which's very
important and you and I both love music so much,
so I think we actually should and maybe we need
to have some of the standout musical guests. Song. I mean,
I would love to have Brandy Carlyle on.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
We have the Frey on.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I mean that be lovely. Okay, I'm down. We haven't
thought about this angle we're doing it, okay, So yes,
that that starts that that song starts to play and
then you go over to April and Jackson, and April
comes in with all her crazy I love her, I
love her crazy, and.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
She's shirtless and he's shirtless, and he's shirtless, and he's
she's from That's where I was getting from. He could
he could. We could have put him in a hospital gown.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
But by the way he's being treated by.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
CALLI, he's being treated by Kelly.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But he could have been before. I'm confused.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I don't know. But the point is we could have
put him in a hospital gown.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But the why would we do that.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Let's not like, let's have April come in and Jackson.
Let's make sure that Jesse Williams is moisturized. He's ready
just to really confess that love.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
So she comes in and she's like I don't want
you yeah, and he's kind of like wait what yeah,
And he's like you're getting married, yeah, And she's like
a lot of other stuff. But ultimately she's like, unless
you give me a reason not to which hello, hello,
ring ring, the phone is ringing, pick it up. You
(41:15):
love her, she loves you, But we would not do
that because then we cannot have.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
We're going to leave that for another big exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So now, okay, we get to button up the Christina
and Owen piece because Christina comes in with her wisdom
and the thrill of having been challenged by Weber to
hear a leak and then fix it because of that
in the dark, and she is hopped up on the power. Yeah,
and she says to Owen, do you really believe that
(41:49):
I'm ever going to be enough? Like I can't fill
the hole, I can't fill the kid shaped hole in
a lot in your life. And she kind of says,
you already made your decision. I know it's done.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
It's done done, so.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And we have we still have John Legend playing all
of me. So through all so of these I mean again,
there's so many coming togethers and pulling up parts in
this episode. So now we go to a very big
pulling apart, which is and it really is, I mean,
kind of the end Arizona and Calli.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, the big scene at the end where they're they're
there and they're just so full of it and they're
so mad and oh my gosh. Calli is so good
in the scene and she is wrecked and she's coming
at it like full full, just like how could this
have happened? And and and Arizona is like, why do
you keep trying to take credit for my pain?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
My favorite part is when you just like, it's very
rare that I ever heard just I don't even know
if I've heard Jessica Capshaw yell except for Burgergate, and
the yelled is like so goutt and raw. When you're
like you are on the plant, you know, it's like
I just I felt like you just completely let loose
in it. It's excellent because it's like all these things
(43:11):
that have been building you haven't been said really gets said.
I know, not even necessarily that you cheated.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
No, but I think what what in rewatching it?
Speaker 3 (43:21):
At?
Speaker 1 (43:21):
What I saw was I saw how mad Arizona was.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yes, we have seen that.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, she was so mad, she was so so, so
so mad. And and I did see that that CALLI
was in her, in her all of her best intentions
to fix and fix and fix and fix. She was
kind of taking on this horrible thing that had happened
(43:52):
to Arizona. And Arizona was like, it didn't happen to you,
You were not that this experience, which again By the way,
I think probably the next you watch will be the
plane crash episode, because that's the one that everyone also
wants to hear about. But it's like, you weren't there,
you weren't in the woods, you weren't thinking you were
(44:14):
never going to be saved, and amongst people who were dying,
Like you don't know what you're.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Talking about, but I have. I have some questions, and
I feel like fans will want to know about this
because we sort of we know what the arguments about.
Sometimes you're as an actress saying you're in a fight
as your character and you're not on your character's side.
So I want to know if when you were playing that,
were you on Arizona's side? Was Jessica on arizona side.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I understood why she was so frustrated. I personally would
never have let it get to the point where she cheated.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, no, not the cheating. More than that. It's more
thank you, so much more than just that. She's just
wondering if when you were sometimes you're saying lines and
you're like, those.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Were no, I no, I I do I think that
there was all this, you know. I just think that
that CALLI was cheerleading and cheerleading and cheerleading, and I
think that Arizona was giving multiple, multiple, multiple accounts of
I'm struggling, Yeah, I'm heartbroken, i am stuck. Yeah, because
(45:25):
by the way, the one thing that I did was
not on her side about was and I think that
I'm not alone. It's like it feels like a thin
argument to say I'm so mad at you for taking
my leg but also saving my life, like would you
rather be dead? I mean like because because the whole
thing about her leg was that she was gonna die.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, I remember it being so out of the ordinary
for us and so supercharged that one person I don't
know who it was. And it wasn't like, you know,
a cacophony. It wasn't like this amazing like we were
at Radio City Music Hall. But there was we finished
it and there was a clap and there and then
there was clapping, and it was cathartic. It was it
(46:10):
was it was the end of the season, and it
was Yeah, Arizona had so much just stop it already,
like just all the stuff and.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
It was such a long time coming.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yes, and it was just like she finally was like
ah and and and so was Cally, and so I
remember there being like a very cathartic release of like,
you know, that was it felt good and I and
I remember thinking that we did we did the best
you know we made. We did the thing, we did
(46:43):
the thing we made.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
When you My last question for you about that scene,
it's when you went into it. Did you know did
you plan on being Arizona being that explosive in the
scene or did you find your way there while filming?
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I think I think we found on our way there
because I think that I always tried to make Arizona
be like temper her and like find the bright side
of the street. And I think that we found our
way to you know what, sometimes you can't sweeten.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
You know. I think that's a really interesting thing that
you just said that we've never talked about. And as
an actor, I think that no one is more of
a cheerleader and loves your character more than you do,
right because you have to or playing that person. And
so a lot of times in these scenes where you
kind of have to be the bad guy or you're
just you know, you're exploding in the way that you
(47:35):
have to explode. You're almost the temptation to make the
person more likable in the moment or less explosive or
exactly what you said temper them is. It's just very
tempting to do that, right. And then there are times
(47:56):
when you realize that that's the person is who they
are in this moment and it's not what you would do,
and that's okay. And then you have to lean all
the way in and it feels it can be difficult,
like I understand why you would feel like, find your
way there to that.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Mm hmm. This is gonna be the cliffhanger. So Bailey
is like, oh my gosh, I'm back in action. Somehow
it happened. I'm not afraid of being a doctor anymore.
I've gotten out my stuff and I gotta go find
Richard because he is the one who knows me the
best and I owe everything to him, and I'm gonna
find him. And remember after Richard saved Frank down below,
(48:39):
he said, you just have to flip the switch or
whatever transfer switch and there's like water on the ground,
a little looks little electricity. Yeah, and then you don't
see him flip the switch. But then in the voiceover,
she says that only in the quiet moments after the storm,
(48:59):
we learn who was strong enough to survive, and Richard
is on the floor in the on the wet floor
next to the sparking circuit with his lab coat burned,
and like, you think for sure he's done.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
It's a great show.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Come on, that's like, by the way, that's only we're talking, like,
I don't know, forty five minutes of TV.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
What no wonder we're on the air for this long?
Come on, round of applause?
Speaker 1 (49:29):
I know he can I say it's being controversial, Yeah, sure.
It made me feel nostalgic. I wish that all those
people were still on the show. I don't think it's controversial, Like,
but I was like, I mean, I think all the
people on the show right now are so amazing and
so great, And we were just talking about intern classes
and I think it's absolutely right to shake it up
and all that. But there is something I mean, I
(49:51):
guess it's because you can't get it back. It's just immortalized.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Also, you end up having a soft spot for the
time that you came on the show. Yeah, there's there's
an energy to when you first come on the show
and what that what the landscape looked like at.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
The time, you know, but all the interns like I
really did. I was like again when I saw Shane,
I was like, God, I love that guy.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
I know, I loved our enduring class.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Well, thanks for coming on this ride with us.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
I and thank you for suggesting call it through this
episode because I was sucked in. It was a time
well spent.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I loved it. I love a deep dive with you.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
You too, I do really fun and it is.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Really fun to see us from five hundred years ago.
What we look like.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
I know. Well, let's call it the end of the episode.
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